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0:00:02 > 0:00:06- On the Penywaun estate - at the head of the Cynon Valley...
0:00:06 > 0:00:10- ..Ysgol Rhydywaun - has now been open for 20 years.
0:00:10 > 0:00:13- It's the only - Welsh-medium secondary school...
0:00:13 > 0:00:17- ..for pupils from Merthyr Tydfil - and the Cynon Valley.
0:00:17 > 0:00:22- But how many of those educated here - use the language after leaving?
0:00:22 > 0:00:25- Tonight, - I go back to my old school...
0:00:25 > 0:00:31- ..along with another former pupil, - rugby international Andrew Coombs.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33- Do you speak Welsh with any of them?
0:00:33 > 0:00:35- Do you speak Welsh with any of them?- - I see a couple of former classmates.
0:00:36 > 0:00:41- But we hardly ever speak Welsh, - except to start the conversation.
0:00:41 > 0:00:45- But that's as far - as some of them can go.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47- He's touring the Valleys...
0:00:48 > 0:00:52- ..to see how many of his school - friends still use the language.
0:00:52 > 0:00:56- I can understand - everything in Welsh...
0:00:57 > 0:01:02- ..but getting the words out - takes time, and I find it difficult.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07- Our questionnaire tests - what effect Ysgol Rhydywaun has...
0:01:08 > 0:01:11- ..on the Welsh language - in the Valleys.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22- Nelson RFC, near Caerphilly.
0:01:22 > 0:01:26- Andrew Coombs - first played rugby on this pitch.
0:01:26 > 0:01:29- This is also - where I played as a child.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32- Andrew now has ten caps for Wales...
0:01:33 > 0:01:38- ..and helped the team - win the Six Nations title in 2013.
0:01:38 > 0:01:42- Over a decade since we last spoke, - we're back at our home club...
0:01:42 > 0:01:45- ..to see how he feels - about the Welsh language by now.
0:01:46 > 0:01:49- How much Welsh do you speak - since leaving school?
0:01:49 > 0:01:52- At first, not much, to be honest.
0:01:52 > 0:01:54- In the past couple of years...
0:01:54 > 0:01:58- ..I've started learning Welsh again, - having let it go.
0:01:58 > 0:02:03- What made you change your mind - and want to pick Welsh up again?
0:02:04 > 0:02:05- A couple of things.
0:02:06 > 0:02:09- My son started - at Ysgol Bro Allta in Ystrad Mynach.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14- When I went into the Wales squad, - a lot of people spoke Welsh.
0:02:14 > 0:02:18- I tried to speak Welsh there, - and I found it difficult.
0:02:18 > 0:02:22- That's when I realized - how bad my Welsh was.
0:02:22 > 0:02:27- That was the first time that a lot - of people had spoken Welsh to me...
0:02:27 > 0:02:29- ..and I couldn't talk Welsh back.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31- It was embarrassing, to be honest.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35- Andrew has made his mark...
0:02:35 > 0:02:39- ..as a tough and powerful forward - with the Gwent Dragons.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43- He has captained the region...
0:02:43 > 0:02:46- ..and has now played 86 times - for the Newport side.
0:02:47 > 0:02:52- This morning, he's training - with his teammate, Matthew Pewtner.
0:02:53 > 0:02:54- Great. Finish it off.
0:02:57 > 0:03:03- Matthew comes from Blackwood and - attended Ysgol Gymraeg Cwm Rhymni.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08- Right, Matthew, we're in Ystrad - Mynach, where the Dragons train.
0:03:09 > 0:03:11- Not much Welsh - is spoken in the camp.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- Why don't we speak it to each other?
0:03:14 > 0:03:17- Why don't we speak it to each other?- - We don't speak much Welsh, do we?
0:03:17 > 0:03:20- I think it would be a good thing...
0:03:20 > 0:03:22- ..if we could speak it more.
0:03:22 > 0:03:28- You and I and at least two or three - others here can speak Welsh.
0:03:28 > 0:03:30- We don't speak it often...
0:03:31 > 0:03:35- ..but it would be good - if we did more often in future.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41- There may not be much Welsh - heard in the Dragons ranks...
0:03:41 > 0:03:45- ..but the 'Men of Gwent' - speak more than just English.
0:03:45 > 0:03:48- We have a couple - of South African players.
0:03:48 > 0:03:52- I think I hear more Afrikaans - than I do Welsh.
0:03:52 > 0:03:55- When we sit down upstairs - to have our food...
0:03:55 > 0:03:59- ..the South African lads speak - their own language to each other.
0:04:00 > 0:04:03- To be honest, - it's nice to see them using it.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06- It would be even nicer...
0:04:06 > 0:04:09- ..to see us speaking Welsh - with each other.
0:04:12 > 0:04:17- Andrew and I grew up in Quakers Yard - in Merthyr Tydfil county.
0:04:17 > 0:04:20- For those who want - Welsh-medium education...
0:04:20 > 0:04:25- ..the only option locally - is Ysgol Rhydywaun near Aberdare.
0:04:25 > 0:04:29- Today, we follow the familiar route - of the school bus to Rhydywaun.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33- How much Welsh - did you actually speak at school?
0:04:33 > 0:04:36- Not a lot, to be honest, Gwyn.
0:04:36 > 0:04:38- Most of my friends spoke English.
0:04:38 > 0:04:42- I played with the naughty boys - most of the time!
0:04:44 > 0:04:47- I played with boys - who usually spoke English.
0:04:47 > 0:04:50- Rugby on the yard, - football, that kind of thing.
0:04:50 > 0:04:52- Always in English, to be honest.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55- Your nephew's at Rhydywaun now.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58- Your nephew's at Rhydywaun now.- - Yes, but he's the same.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02- I never speak Welsh to Josh - when I see him.
0:05:02 > 0:05:04- Most of the time, we speak English.
0:05:05 > 0:05:07- That's something - I'm going to change.
0:05:10 > 0:05:11- Josh is his brother's son...
0:05:12 > 0:05:15- ..and he's waiting to meet us - at the school.
0:05:15 > 0:05:20- Josh, it's a bit odd to be back - at school and to see you here.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- It's also odd to speak Welsh to you.
0:05:24 > 0:05:28- When you come to my house, - we usually speak English, don't we?
0:05:28 > 0:05:29- Yes.
0:05:29 > 0:05:33- What about at school? Do you - speak Welsh with your friends?
0:05:33 > 0:05:35- No, not a lot.
0:05:35 > 0:05:39- Only in class, - when the teachers are listening.
0:05:39 > 0:05:42- You get a row - if they hear you speak English.
0:05:43 > 0:05:47- Why do you think you don't - speak Welsh with your friends...
0:05:47 > 0:05:50- ..either in school - or out on the yard?
0:05:51 > 0:05:54- There isn't a lot - to talk about in Welsh.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57- I know more English words - than Welsh words.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00- You say that there isn't - a lot to talk about.
0:06:01 > 0:06:02- Can you discuss football in Welsh?
0:06:02 > 0:06:04- Can you discuss football in Welsh?- - Yes, but I choose not to.
0:06:05 > 0:06:06- I don't want to.
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- I don't want to.- - Is everyone the same as you?
0:06:08 > 0:06:11- Or are you the only one - who speaks English?
0:06:11 > 0:06:13- No, everyone's like me.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16- No-one speaks Welsh - on the yard or anything.
0:06:18 > 0:06:23- Through rugby, Andrew has kept - in touch with his old PE teachers.
0:06:23 > 0:06:28- They were proud to see him - using his Welsh on TV recently.
0:06:29 > 0:06:33- When you leave school, you think - you'll never use Welsh again.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37- I think that's why I let it go. - The lack of chances to speak it.
0:06:37 > 0:06:42- Now, the opportunities are coming, - and I'm improving all the time.
0:06:42 > 0:06:47- Certainly, the language - does give you an advantage.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50- You play rugby and give interviews.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- There's a big pool - of English speakers.
0:06:53 > 0:06:58- There are fewer Welsh speakers, - and that can open doors.
0:06:58 > 0:07:04- What's nice where you're concerned, - is that you use Welsh naturally.
0:07:04 > 0:07:09- You do come across - as confident and happy.
0:07:09 > 0:07:11- You know, you're quite...
0:07:13 > 0:07:17- You're relaxed speaking Welsh - in your own natural dialect.
0:07:18 > 0:07:21- You're a good role model - for children.
0:07:21 > 0:07:24- Don't worry about studying Welsh, - just use it.
0:07:26 > 0:07:30- Andrew has agreed to take - a training session with Year 7.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34- He wants to see - whether they use Welsh on the field.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37- We'll have three passing drills...
0:07:37 > 0:07:39- ..following on - from what Mr Francis did.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41- Passing is important in rugby.
0:07:43 > 0:07:46- Although he helps - train children in Nelson...
0:07:46 > 0:07:49- ..this is his first time - coaching in Welsh.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- Lots of tempo, and more noise!
0:07:52 > 0:07:58- After checking their rugby skills, - what about their linguistic skills?
0:07:59 > 0:08:00- When I was at school...
0:08:00 > 0:08:03- ..I never spoke Welsh - on the field or on the yard.
0:08:04 > 0:08:06- Not much Welsh was spoken.
0:08:07 > 0:08:12- Walking through the school today, - I still hear English spoken...
0:08:12 > 0:08:15- ..and on the field now, - when you were playing.
0:08:16 > 0:08:20- How many of you - speak Welsh outside class?
0:08:20 > 0:08:22- Everyone speaks it in class.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25- How many speak Welsh outside class?
0:08:25 > 0:08:26- Be honest.
0:08:26 > 0:08:27- Half and half.
0:08:27 > 0:08:28- Half and half.- - Half and half?
0:08:28 > 0:08:29- In and out?
0:08:30 > 0:08:32- I speak Welsh at home.
0:08:32 > 0:08:36- When you're at school, why is it - you don't speak Welsh all the time?
0:08:37 > 0:08:38- Because it's difficult?
0:08:39 > 0:08:42- If you try, - everyone else turns to English.
0:08:45 > 0:08:50- Only about 3% of Rhydywaun's pupils - come from Welsh-speaking homes.
0:08:52 > 0:08:54- Andrew says that it isn't easy...
0:08:54 > 0:08:58- ..for the language to battle - against the tide in the area.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- I like to hear Welsh being spoken.
0:09:04 > 0:09:05- It's special.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07- But it's not natural for them.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11- It can be hard. They don't - know the words, just like me.
0:09:14 > 0:09:19- In part two, we follow Andrew - as he meets up with school friends.
0:09:20 > 0:09:22- Do you use Welsh?
0:09:22 > 0:09:24- Do you use Welsh?- - No, not at all.
0:09:25 > 0:09:26- I don't need to, really.
0:09:27 > 0:09:32- And our questionnaire reveals - how many of his former classmates...
0:09:32 > 0:09:35- ..still use the language - at the age of 30.
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0:09:49 > 0:09:51- Rugby player, Andrew Coombs...
0:09:51 > 0:09:54- ..is on a journey - to meet some of the people...
0:09:54 > 0:09:56- ..who went to school with him.
0:09:56 > 0:09:59- Since leaving Ysgol Rhydywaun - at 16...
0:09:59 > 0:10:03- ..he's lost touch - with most of his school friends.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05- Tonight, - he's meeting one close friend.
0:10:06 > 0:10:08- What do you want, Huw?
0:10:08 > 0:10:10- Strongbow Dark Fruits, please.
0:10:11 > 0:10:14- Huw Jones - was a year above Andrew at school.
0:10:14 > 0:10:16- He now works as a carpenter.
0:10:18 > 0:10:22- He coaches the Nelson rugby team - where Andrew started his career.
0:10:23 > 0:10:25- It's nice to see you, Huw.
0:10:25 > 0:10:30- I know I see you often but - we've met up today to talk in Welsh.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33- We don't usually communicate - in Welsh.
0:10:34 > 0:10:38- Do you use your Welsh at home - with the family or other friends?
0:10:38 > 0:10:40- No, I don't...
0:10:41 > 0:10:45- ..use it as much - as perhaps I should have.
0:10:48 > 0:10:49- Yeah.
0:10:49 > 0:10:53- I see one or two people - who do speak Welsh.
0:10:54 > 0:10:55- I try to speak Welsh with them.
0:10:57 > 0:11:00- I don't use it as much as I should.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04- Do any of your school friends - speak Welsh at home?
0:11:04 > 0:11:06- Do you know how their Welsh is now?
0:11:07 > 0:11:10- I don't have much of a clue. I'm - friends with one or two on Facebook.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13- When you speak to them personally...
0:11:13 > 0:11:15- When you speak to them personally...- - ..yeah, everything's in English.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18- I know that you like to sing - in Welsh, Huw.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20- Is that right?
0:11:22 > 0:11:25- I can belt out Yma O Hyd - by Dafydd Iwan.
0:11:25 > 0:11:29- You like Sosban Fach - as a Scarlets supporter.
0:11:29 > 0:11:30- I'm a big fan of the Scarlets.
0:11:30 > 0:11:32- I'm a big fan of the Scarlets.- - You like singing that to me.
0:11:32 > 0:11:33- All the time!
0:11:34 > 0:11:36- # Little saucepan # - There you go.
0:11:39 > 0:11:42- Huw was a pupil - at Rhydywaun for five years.
0:11:42 > 0:11:44- He rarely uses Welsh these days.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48- He has two little girls but hasn't - sent them to a Welsh school...
0:11:49 > 0:11:52- ..as his wife doesn't speak Welsh.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55- I can see how hard it is - to speak Welsh...
0:11:55 > 0:11:57- ..when you haven't used it - for so long.
0:11:57 > 0:11:59- That's what I was like - a few years ago.
0:12:00 > 0:12:02- I may have been worse than Huw was.
0:12:03 > 0:12:07- For someone who hasn't spoken the - language for so long, he did well.
0:12:11 > 0:12:13- I wanted to know how much Welsh...
0:12:14 > 0:12:17- ..former Rhydywaun pupils - use after leaving school.
0:12:18 > 0:12:22- I wrote a survey to send - to those in Andrew's school year.
0:12:25 > 0:12:29- 69 of the 103 - who started at Rhydywaun in 1996...
0:12:29 > 0:12:32- ..responded online - or over the phone.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36- None of the respondents - said they couldn't speak Welsh.
0:12:37 > 0:12:41- Only one person said - they only knew a few words by now.
0:12:42 > 0:12:47- 43% said they could chat - but not about complicated things.
0:12:47 > 0:12:53- A little over half, 56%, described - themselves as fluent Welsh speakers.
0:12:54 > 0:12:59- In Aberdare, Andrew meets - one of those fluent in Welsh.
0:13:00 > 0:13:04- Bethan Jenkins is now a teacher - at Ysgol Gyfun Cymer Rhondda.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08- Your parents are both Welsh - speakers, my parents are not.
0:13:09 > 0:13:11- Do you still speak Welsh at home?
0:13:11 > 0:13:13- Yes, I still speak Welsh at home.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15- I still live at home at present.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18- We still speak Welsh day to day.
0:13:18 > 0:13:23- What about friends? Do you speak - to your old school friends in Welsh?
0:13:23 > 0:13:25- I'm still in touch with some people.
0:13:25 > 0:13:26- We speak Welsh.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28- We speak Welsh.- - That's good.
0:13:28 > 0:13:32- I see people I know in Asda - and so on and we don't speak Welsh.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- What about - back when you were at school?
0:13:35 > 0:13:38- Do you remember - how much Welsh you spoke back there?
0:13:38 > 0:13:41- To be honest, a lot of people - didn't speak Welsh at school.
0:13:42 > 0:13:43- I was one of them.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45- A few of us - spoke Welsh to each other.
0:13:46 > 0:13:49- In lessons and so on, - we rarely spoke Welsh at school.
0:13:49 > 0:13:54- I speak more Welsh since leaving - school and going to college.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57- Is it the same now? You teach - at a Welsh-language school.
0:13:57 > 0:13:58- Yes, I do.
0:13:58 > 0:14:02- How do you find it now? Do you see - more people speaking Welsh?
0:14:02 > 0:14:06- To be honest, I think it's an issue - across all of South Wales.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08- Welsh isn't cool for kids to speak.
0:14:09 > 0:14:12- It's hard to get them - to speak Welsh in school.
0:14:14 > 0:14:18- Bethan is one of 38% - who replied to our survey...
0:14:18 > 0:14:21- ..who say they speak Welsh daily.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26- 15% of respondents - said they spoke it weekly.
0:14:26 > 0:14:30- 38% said they used it occasionally.
0:14:31 > 0:14:35- 10% said they never speak Welsh.
0:14:37 > 0:14:40- Ian Jenkins is one of that 10%.
0:14:40 > 0:14:43- He was a close friend of Andrew's - at school.
0:14:43 > 0:14:48- They played rugby together - for Nelson and Newport.
0:14:48 > 0:14:52- Today, Andrew is meeting him - at Bargoed Golf Club.
0:14:52 > 0:14:54- Ian is a member there.
0:14:54 > 0:14:57- Ian, it's nice to see you. - I haven't seen you for a while.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01- Do you use much - of your Welsh any more?
0:15:01 > 0:15:04- No, not at all, really.
0:15:04 > 0:15:07- My wife speaks Welsh but I don't...
0:15:07 > 0:15:09- My wife speaks Welsh but I don't...- - You don't speak Welsh at home.
0:15:10 > 0:15:12- You've got two small children.
0:15:13 > 0:15:17- Yes, I've got Gracie, she's four...
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- ..and Olivia, who is two.
0:15:21 > 0:15:26- Both the children - go to an English school.
0:15:26 > 0:15:28- That's where we live.
0:15:28 > 0:15:34- There are two reasons for that. - One of them is convenience.
0:15:35 > 0:15:40- The school is across the road - from where we live.
0:15:41 > 0:15:46- The other one - is if she has homework...
0:15:47 > 0:15:50- ..we can't help if it's in Welsh.
0:15:52 > 0:15:57- As a parent, you want the best - for your child, really.
0:15:57 > 0:15:59- We want the best.
0:15:59 > 0:16:04- If they don't understand something, - we want to help.
0:16:05 > 0:16:08- Your wife, Cerys, - went to Ysgol Rhydfelen.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12- You don't really speak much Welsh - with her at home.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14- No, not at all.
0:16:16 > 0:16:19- There's no need, really.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22- If we do speak Welsh...
0:16:22 > 0:16:25- ..mostly, we think it's funny...
0:16:25 > 0:16:29- ..and doesn't sound right.
0:16:30 > 0:16:31- It isn't natural, is it?
0:16:31 > 0:16:33- It isn't natural, is it?- - No, it isn't.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39- Jamie Bevan comes from Merthyr.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43- He went to Rhydfelen - before Rhydywaun opened.
0:16:44 > 0:16:47- He is the current Chair - of the Welsh Language Society.
0:16:47 > 0:16:52- He thinks that the results - of our survey are positive...
0:16:52 > 0:16:55- ..despite the fact that 10% - never use the language any more.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01- Your survey shows - that the majority of those...
0:17:01 > 0:17:06- ..who were educated in Welsh still - use the language to some extent.
0:17:07 > 0:17:12- A very small proportion - don't use Welsh at all.
0:17:12 > 0:17:16- I don't think - that Andrew's school year...
0:17:16 > 0:17:19- ..was very different to mine.
0:17:19 > 0:17:23- A lot of us - came from non-Welsh-speaking homes.
0:17:23 > 0:17:24- A lot of us left school...
0:17:25 > 0:17:27- ..and didn't use Welsh again - for many years.
0:17:28 > 0:17:32- Once you realise that Welsh - doesn't belong to the school...
0:17:33 > 0:17:35- ..you start building networks...
0:17:35 > 0:17:38- ..to use your Welsh - in all walks of life.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40- But, there was one more part - to the survey.
0:17:41 > 0:17:42- Before finishing...
0:17:42 > 0:17:46- ..I asked the former pupils to leave - comments about the Welsh language.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49- According to one - prominent consultant...
0:17:49 > 0:17:53- ..those comments add meat to - the bones of the preceding answers.
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- "I use my Welsh with my - daughters who attend a Welsh school.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01- "I speak a little every day."
0:18:01 > 0:18:04- "I speak more Welsh - since my son has started at school.
0:18:04 > 0:18:07- "He brings home Welsh books - and I help out."
0:18:07 > 0:18:10- "I'm so happy - that I continued to speak Welsh.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14- "I'm learning foreign languages..."
0:18:14 > 0:18:16- "I speak more Welsh than ever.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19- "I feel more comfortable - showing that I speak Welsh.
0:18:19 > 0:18:22- "It's very useful - working as a doctor."
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- "I've lost confidence - speaking Welsh.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- "I'd like to do an evening course - to gain more confidence."
0:18:28 > 0:18:31- "Conversation can be tricky."
0:18:31 > 0:18:34- "I know I can get it back."
0:18:37 > 0:18:40- Cefin Campbell is an expert - on linguistic planning.
0:18:40 > 0:18:45- He's amazed at how positive - the survey's results are.
0:18:45 > 0:18:48- He does say they need - to be handled carefully.
0:18:48 > 0:18:53- There needs to be a warning - with any survey you send out.
0:18:53 > 0:18:59- There's always a danger that they - give the answers you want to hear.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01- You have to be careful with that.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04- Putting that to one side...
0:19:04 > 0:19:09- ..I still think - these are very heartening results.
0:19:12 > 0:19:16- He feels the respondents' comments - say more than the figures.
0:19:17 > 0:19:22- It's heartening that a lot of them - say they use Welsh at work.
0:19:23 > 0:19:26- Either as teachers - or teaching assistants.
0:19:26 > 0:19:30- For them, Welsh has been - an economic advantage.
0:19:31 > 0:19:34- The most interesting thing - in all the answers...
0:19:35 > 0:19:39- ..is also the most worrying - for me.
0:19:39 > 0:19:42- It's the number of parents...
0:19:44 > 0:19:48- ..who use the language more - with their children now...
0:19:48 > 0:19:51- ..because they've started - at Welsh schools.
0:19:51 > 0:19:56- It's great that their children - are going to Welsh-medium schools.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58- However, it demonstrates...
0:19:58 > 0:20:03- ..that their use of Welsh - with their children is occasional.
0:20:04 > 0:20:09- Welsh isn't spoken on the hearth - in these homes, on the whole.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13- So the language - isn't transferred to the children.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17- What's the answer to that?
0:20:17 > 0:20:22- There are a number of ideas - the Welsh Government could adopt.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26- I think there's a challenge there. - It's a priority.
0:20:29 > 0:20:34- The Chair of the Welsh Language - Society is pushing the government...
0:20:34 > 0:20:38- ..to give more opportunities for - Welsh speakers in the South East.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44- As you've raised in this programme, - Welsh isn't relevant...
0:20:45 > 0:20:48- ..to children who come from - non-Welsh-speaking homes.
0:20:49 > 0:20:53- That doesn't mean - Welsh-language education has failed.
0:20:53 > 0:20:56- What's failing - is government policies.
0:20:56 > 0:21:00- They are meant to bolster - Welsh-medium education.
0:21:00 > 0:21:04- I think there's much more - the government could do...
0:21:04 > 0:21:07- ..like strengthen the - Welsh Language Act to support that.
0:21:08 > 0:21:12- Christine Chapman is the Assembly - Member for the Cynon Valley.
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- She isn't a cabinet member.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18- She has represented Labour - in Cardiff Bay since 1999.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21- The comments - at the end of the survey...
0:21:21 > 0:21:25- ..show Welsh hasn't become - the first language in many cases.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28- Is enough being done - by your Labour government?
0:21:28 > 0:21:30- I was very heartened by the survey.
0:21:31 > 0:21:35- It is about encouraging Welsh - to be spoken in the communities.
0:21:35 > 0:21:39- This is what Welsh Government - is focusing in on now.
0:21:39 > 0:21:43- It's not just about - the language of the home.
0:21:43 > 0:21:46- It should be in employment as well.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49- I'm seeing changes actually.
0:21:49 > 0:21:51- There's a lot more to be done.
0:21:51 > 0:21:55- But there's generally a much more - proactive approach to it now.
0:21:59 > 0:22:03- Andrew Coombs sends his six-year-old - son to a Welsh school.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06- What do you like to eat - for breakfast?
0:22:06 > 0:22:08- Toast and apple juice.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10- Apple juice?
0:22:10 > 0:22:12- He's happy the survey shows...
0:22:12 > 0:22:16- ..that the majority of his - school year still use the language.
0:22:16 > 0:22:21- I'm a little surprised that so many - people say they still speak Welsh...
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- ..and that they - use the language every day.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27- Despite English - being the language at home...
0:22:27 > 0:22:30- ..Andrew says he does - try to speak Welsh with Ollie.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35- He hopes his son - will see a value to the language...
0:22:35 > 0:22:37- ..growing up in the Valleys.
0:22:37 > 0:22:41- It's important to me that Ollie - uses his Welsh when he grows up...
0:22:41 > 0:22:45- ..and that he continues to use - his Welsh when he leaves school.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47- That would be very nice to hear.
0:22:47 > 0:22:49- There isn't much Welsh used - in the Valleys.
0:22:49 > 0:22:52- If people like me and Ollie - use more Welsh...
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- ..maybe that will push - other people...
0:22:55 > 0:22:57- ..to use the language - outside school too.
0:22:58 > 0:23:01- Next week, - after Tata Steel's announcement...
0:23:01 > 0:23:04- ..that almost 1,000 jobs - will be lost in Wales...
0:23:05 > 0:23:08- ..we look at the effect - in the Port Talbot area.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11- We ask what's the future - for communities...
0:23:12 > 0:23:15- ..that are home - to the heavy industries?
0:23:15 > 0:23:19- Y Byd ar Bedwar, - next Tuesday at 9.30pm on S4C.
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