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0:00:02 > 0:00:03- Terrorist scum!

0:00:03 > 0:00:04- Terrorist scum!- - Off our streets.

0:00:04 > 0:00:08- Last weekend, right-wing groups - took to the streets of London...

0:00:09 > 0:00:11- ..to protest against terrorism.

0:00:11 > 0:00:15- You as a left-wing journalist - can bury your head in the sand.

0:00:15 > 0:00:19- We don't bury our heads in the sand. - This is Islamic terrorism.

0:00:20 > 0:00:25- I was there too with - a young Muslim from North Wales.

0:00:25 > 0:00:29- I think allowing them - to do what they're doing...

0:00:29 > 0:00:34- ..shows everyone in this country how - bigoted and small-minded they are.

0:00:34 > 0:00:37- Tonight, we're on a journey - with Samir Baxter...

0:00:37 > 0:00:41- ..to find out what effect - the attacks on Westminster...

0:00:41 > 0:00:43- ..have had on his community.

0:00:43 > 0:00:47- It's nothing to do with religion. - It's maniacs doing bad things.

0:00:48 > 0:00:53- We're in Birmingham - where terrorist Khalid Masood lived.

0:00:58 > 0:01:01- And in Cardiff - where a small gang of Muslims...

0:01:01 > 0:01:05- ..have been attracted - towards Islamic extremism.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07- This is not Islamic, not at all.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11- The word Islam means peace - and that's what we want.

0:01:11 > 0:01:13- Tonight on Y Byd ar Bedwar...

0:01:14 > 0:01:18- ..what has been the effect - of the London terror attack?

0:01:25 > 0:01:31- Westminster Bridge, London. - Exactly a week after the attack.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35- Thousands have gathered - to pay their respects...

0:01:35 > 0:01:37- ..to those killed and injured.

0:01:38 > 0:01:44- Among those present were groups from - Muslim communities across Britain.

0:01:46 > 0:01:51- Also present, - Monmouth MP David Davies.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59- Hello, sir. Hello, nice to meet you.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01- I've come from Redditch.

0:02:01 > 0:02:06- I was one of the MPs - who was caught up in it last week.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09- I was actually very close - to what happened.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14- At 2.40pm, a 52-year-old man - name Khalid Masood...

0:02:15 > 0:02:19- ..drove along the pavement - across Westminster Bridge.

0:02:20 > 0:02:24- He used his vehicle as a weapon - to knock over pedestrians...

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- ..injuring 50 people - and killing three.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34- After driving the car into railings - outside Westminster Palace...

0:02:35 > 0:02:38- ..he rushed towards - the government grounds...

0:02:38 > 0:02:41- ..and attacked PC Keith Palmer - before being shot dead.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46- Back down, back, back, back, back.

0:02:49 > 0:02:53- David Davies was on his way - to the chambers with another MP...

0:02:53 > 0:02:55- ..when Masood attacked.

0:02:55 > 0:03:00- In the middle of the mayhem, - he filmed this footage on his phone.

0:03:01 > 0:03:05- I heard a gunshot ring out - and I said, I'm sure I said...

0:03:05 > 0:03:08- .."That was a gunshot, get down."

0:03:08 > 0:03:13- From my understanding, - the two of us believed someone...

0:03:13 > 0:03:19- ..was trying to shoot towards us, - maybe from the outside.

0:03:23 > 0:03:26- As armed officers - shot the attacker...

0:03:26 > 0:03:30- ..the MP ran back to his office - through an underground tunnel.

0:03:32 > 0:03:36- I wasn't panicking but my adrenaline - had gone through the roof.

0:03:36 > 0:03:39- I was on the ground - thinking someone had been shot.

0:03:41 > 0:03:44- IS has claimed responsibility - for Khalid Masood's attack.

0:03:45 > 0:03:49- Muslim communities across Britain - have condemned his actions...

0:03:50 > 0:03:57- ..but the Welsh MP feels that more - need to be done to tackle extremism.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02- Do you think the Muslim community - has done enough...

0:04:03 > 0:04:07- ..to share their experiences - and explain their views?

0:04:07 > 0:04:08- I don't think so at all.

0:04:08 > 0:04:11- I want to make it clear - that the majority of Muslims...

0:04:12 > 0:04:15- ..are fiercely opposed to terrorism.

0:04:16 > 0:04:20- Why do you think they aren't - doing more to transfer that message?

0:04:20 > 0:04:22- Well, look...

0:04:22 > 0:04:27- ..it's difficult to find the correct - language to discuss this problem...

0:04:27 > 0:04:30- ..without everyone accusing you - of being racist.

0:04:33 > 0:04:37- That night, almost 300 miles away - in Bangor Cathedral...

0:04:38 > 0:04:42- ..a vigil is held - to mark a week since the attacks.

0:04:45 > 0:04:49- Representatives from different - religions head to the service.

0:04:49 > 0:04:54- Among them is Samir Baxter, a local - man who has converted to Islam.

0:04:54 > 0:04:57- I think it's so important - during these times...

0:04:57 > 0:05:01- ..for everyone to come together...

0:05:01 > 0:05:08- ..and let people know that - the actions of this man in London...

0:05:08 > 0:05:11- ..weren't the actions - of a true Muslim.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13- People like that - are in an extreme minority.

0:05:21 > 0:05:26- Samir has experienced Islamophobia - as a Muslim in Bangor.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28- When he heard about the attack - in London...

0:05:28 > 0:05:32- ..he was concerned - about an increase in Islamophobia...

0:05:32 > 0:05:36- ..as there was after the attacks - in Paris and Berlin.

0:05:39 > 0:05:42- I'm just anticipating a backlash.

0:05:42 > 0:05:48- Some people think that just because - a Muslim has done that...

0:05:48 > 0:05:51- ..they think we're all bad.

0:05:56 > 0:06:02- The 22-year-old Muslim also condemns - Khalid Masood's attack.

0:06:02 > 0:06:06- He believes - a better understanding is needed...

0:06:06 > 0:06:09- ..about what drives some Muslims - to extremism.

0:06:09 > 0:06:13- I think people have - a lack of education...

0:06:13 > 0:06:17- ..in the subject of Islam - and the subject of politics...

0:06:18 > 0:06:22- ..and why people - actually do things like that.

0:06:23 > 0:06:26- I read the Quran every day - in English and Arabic.

0:06:26 > 0:06:31- There's nothing in the Quran telling - you to go out and kill people.

0:06:32 > 0:06:33- There's nothing in it.

0:06:34 > 0:06:37- Some people, - especially the far-right...

0:06:37 > 0:06:42- ..like to pick out - words and verses from the Quran...

0:06:42 > 0:06:46- ..and say, "Look, - the Quran tells you to do this."

0:06:46 > 0:06:51- If you read what comes before - and after those words and verses...

0:06:51 > 0:06:56- ..you can see the context - and it only preaches self-defence.

0:06:58 > 0:07:04- According to the most recent Census, - almost 46,000 Muslims live in Wales.

0:07:05 > 0:07:09- The Muslim community - has deep roots in Cardiff...

0:07:09 > 0:07:13- ..and half of Welsh Muslims - live in the capital.

0:07:19 > 0:07:23- On Friday, we visited - the Shah Jalal mosque in Cathays...

0:07:23 > 0:07:26- ..to ask worshippers - about the recent attack.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33- We highly condemn these attacks.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35- This is not Islamic, not at all.

0:07:35 > 0:07:39- Islam, the word Islam, means peace. - That's what we want.

0:07:39 > 0:07:41- No hate, we just want peace.

0:07:42 > 0:07:46- We want to unite all the - communities, that's our intention.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49- That's our feeling in Cardiff.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53- It doesn't represent - Islam or Muslim.

0:07:53 > 0:07:58- We condemn and we will fight with - the British soldiers against ISIS.

0:07:58 > 0:08:00- That's what the view of Muslims are.

0:08:00 > 0:08:02- I was brought up in this country.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05- I love this country - more than anything else.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11- Some present believed - that feelings towards Muslims...

0:08:11 > 0:08:13- ..had changed - for the worse recently.

0:08:14 > 0:08:18- You see it generally on the streets, - maybe.

0:08:18 > 0:08:23- It won't be open as much but - getting a little bit more open...

0:08:23 > 0:08:29- ..with comments - and just stares sometimes.

0:08:29 > 0:08:30- It's getting worse.

0:08:31 > 0:08:35- Muslims in Wales have been linked - to terrorist activities...

0:08:35 > 0:08:40- ..and some have voiced their support - to so-called IS.

0:08:42 > 0:08:46- Three years ago Nasser Muthana - and Reyaad Khan from Cardiff...

0:08:47 > 0:08:51- ..appeared in an IS propaganda video - after travelling to Syria.

0:08:51 > 0:08:56- Nasser's young brother, Aseel, - travelled over to join them.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59- Reyaad Khan - has since been killed in Syria...

0:08:59 > 0:09:03- ..but there has been no news - about the Muthana brothers.

0:09:04 > 0:09:07- Last week, we visited Nasser - and Aseel's father...

0:09:07 > 0:09:09- ..to find out what he had to say...

0:09:09 > 0:09:12- ..about the influence - of extremism on Muslims.

0:09:13 > 0:09:16- He said he was recovering - from heart surgery...

0:09:16 > 0:09:19- ..and not in a position - to conduct an interview.

0:09:19 > 0:09:24- In this video, Aseel Muthana and - Kristen Brekke, both from Cardiff...

0:09:24 > 0:09:26- ..pretend they are in Syria.

0:09:27 > 0:09:29- This is the fake Jihadi life?

0:09:30 > 0:09:32- Last year - Kristen Brekke was imprisoned...

0:09:33 > 0:09:36- ..for four and a half years for - helping Aseel to travel to Syria...

0:09:37 > 0:09:40- ..even though he told the jury - he was "totally against Jihad".

0:09:41 > 0:09:45- We also called to see Kristen - Brekke's father in Grangetown.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48- He has always protested - his son's innocence...

0:09:48 > 0:09:50- ..and the only thing - he had to say...

0:09:50 > 0:09:52- ..was that his son - wasn't an extremist.

0:09:52 > 0:09:55- Gareth Hicks - mentors young people...

0:09:55 > 0:09:59- ..who are suspected - of having extremist views.

0:09:59 > 0:10:04- He says that extremists use - the Internet to attract followers...

0:10:04 > 0:10:06- ..in the form - of IS propaganda videos.

0:10:07 > 0:10:12- The problem nowadays is - people are on their smartphones...

0:10:12 > 0:10:14- ..they can go anywhere...

0:10:15 > 0:10:19- ..and there's no way of seeing - what they're doing.

0:10:19 > 0:10:25- It's difficult to track - what information they're receiving.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29- I think that's the way - they are led down that path...

0:10:29 > 0:10:34- ..by the way they use - their smartphones and the Internet.

0:10:34 > 0:10:38- This youth worker - has turned to Islam himself.

0:10:39 > 0:10:45- He claims that extremist right-wing - groups are targeting young people.

0:10:45 > 0:10:50- We work with the communities - to ensure we all come together.

0:10:51 > 0:10:59- The work is difficult but it's good - because everyone works together...

0:10:59 > 0:11:04- ..and we've had people - who headed down the right-wing path.

0:11:04 > 0:11:09- These days they're drinking tea - with the Muslim community.

0:11:09 > 0:11:13- That's good. Difficult but good.

0:11:13 > 0:11:16- Dr Geraint Whittaker - from Swansea University...

0:11:17 > 0:11:21- ..works with the city's - Ethnic Youth Support Team.

0:11:21 > 0:11:25- He's completed a PhD - on Muslim identity in Wales.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28- Muslims are exactly the same as us.

0:11:30 > 0:11:34- There's momentum in their lives - where they feel they belong or not.

0:11:35 > 0:11:37- If they feel they don't belong...

0:11:37 > 0:11:40- ..if they experience racism - or Islamophobia...

0:11:41 > 0:11:44- ..they don't feel - they're part of that community.

0:11:44 > 0:11:48- He shares his concerns - that social media...

0:11:48 > 0:11:51- ..is helping - right-wing extremist groups...

0:11:52 > 0:11:55- ..to spread anti-Islamic propaganda.

0:11:57 > 0:12:01- Through social media - - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram...

0:12:01 > 0:12:05- ..people like Britain First - can make up their own stories...

0:12:06 > 0:12:10- ..share their information - and manage it in such a way...

0:12:11 > 0:12:15- ..to create a picture - of what they want to see...

0:12:16 > 0:12:19- ..which is - "Muslims are all like this"...

0:12:19 > 0:12:23- .."They all want to kill people, - they're all terrorists."

0:12:25 > 0:12:26- Terrorist scum.

0:12:26 > 0:12:27- Terrorist scum.- - Off our streets.

0:12:28 > 0:12:30- In Part 2, clashes - between right-wing groups...

0:12:31 > 0:12:37- ..and anti-Fascist groups on - the streets of London last weekend.

0:12:37 > 0:12:39- Fascist scum.

0:12:39 > 0:12:42- We're with Samir Baxter...

0:12:42 > 0:12:46- ..as the police step in - to arrest protestors.

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0:13:01 > 0:13:05- Five years ago, this man - from Bangor converted to Islam....

0:13:05 > 0:13:08- ..and changed his name to Samir.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- He's now studying - to become an Imam.

0:13:14 > 0:13:19- Friday prayers is one of the - most important events of the week.

0:13:20 > 0:13:23- He washes before heading - to the prayer hall...

0:13:23 > 0:13:26- ..to ensure he's pure - before his god.

0:13:33 > 0:13:36- He's not in Bangor today.

0:13:36 > 0:13:40- He's in one of Europe's - largest mosques...

0:13:40 > 0:13:43- ..Central Mosque, Birmingham...

0:13:43 > 0:13:48- ..as one of 3,000 men - who will meet there to pray.

0:13:49 > 0:13:54- I come here quite regularly, - to chill with my friends...

0:13:54 > 0:14:00- ..visit the city, - attend different lectures...

0:14:00 > 0:14:02- ..and learn more about my faith.

0:14:05 > 0:14:09- Samir has visited Saudi Arabia - to learn about his faith...

0:14:09 > 0:14:12- ..and he believes - the present government...

0:14:12 > 0:14:16- ..can learn lessons from them - to tackle terrorism.

0:14:16 > 0:14:21- When I visited Saudi Arabia, - they had harsher punishments...

0:14:21 > 0:14:28- ..for people involved - in terrorist acts...

0:14:28 > 0:14:31- ..and people who kill others...

0:14:31 > 0:14:36- ..and people - who rape and assault other people.

0:14:37 > 0:14:41- They give them the death penalty - or a very harsh punishment.

0:14:41 > 0:14:47- As a result of that, nothing further - happens. It's such a good deterrent.

0:14:47 > 0:14:52- Over a million people live in - Birmingham. Almost 25% are Muslims.

0:14:53 > 0:14:55- Until a fortnight ago...

0:14:55 > 0:14:59- ..the Westminster murderer - lived among them.

0:15:00 > 0:15:06- Adrian Elms was born in Kent - on Christmas Day 1964.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08- At the age of 16, he left school...

0:15:08 > 0:15:12- ..and fell into a world - of crime and drugs.

0:15:12 > 0:15:17- Later, he was sent to prison for - violent offences relating to knives.

0:15:17 > 0:15:22- Firstly in 2001 and then in 2003.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25- Following that, - he converted to Islam...

0:15:26 > 0:15:29- ..and changed his name - to Khalid Masood.

0:15:29 > 0:15:34- He lived here, on the Quayside - estate, until last December.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36- I spoke to many of his neighbours...

0:15:37 > 0:15:40- ..who described him - as quiet and normal.

0:15:40 > 0:15:43- He's wasn't the first - from Birmingham...

0:15:43 > 0:15:47- ..to surprise his neighbours - and follow a path to terrorism.

0:15:48 > 0:15:52- According to a recent survey - by the Henry Jackson Society...

0:15:52 > 0:15:56- ..39 people from Birmingham have - been linked to terrorist activity...

0:15:57 > 0:15:58- ..between 1998 and 2015.

0:16:00 > 0:16:05- Members of the mosque admitted - there was a problem in the city.

0:16:06 > 0:16:08- Birmingham now needs - to be cleaned up.

0:16:09 > 0:16:12- There's a lot of people - out there who are hiding away...

0:16:12 > 0:16:14- ..and doing these silly things.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17- There's black sheep - in every community...

0:16:17 > 0:16:20- ..and this man - was hiding under a rock.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24- The inquiry announced - a month ago also notes...

0:16:24 > 0:16:30- ..that 75% of offenders come - from England's most deprived areas.

0:16:30 > 0:16:35- I think personally - this is due to social status...

0:16:35 > 0:16:41- ..economics, coming from - deprived areas, lack of education...

0:16:41 > 0:16:46- ..and not many prospects or goals - to look forward to in life.

0:16:46 > 0:16:50- They go down the wrong path. - That's all it is.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54- Another visitor to the mosque - on Friday...

0:16:54 > 0:16:58- ..was the West Midlands Police - and Crime Commissioner.

0:16:59 > 0:17:03- A significant amount of individuals - involved in attacks...

0:17:03 > 0:17:06- ..have come from this area, - from Birmingham.

0:17:06 > 0:17:08- Why is that?

0:17:08 > 0:17:10- The attacker last week - came from Kent.

0:17:11 > 0:17:15- He spent a short time in Birmingham - but he came from elsewhere.

0:17:15 > 0:17:17- This is big and busy city.

0:17:18 > 0:17:21- Are you saying - there isn't a problem here?

0:17:21 > 0:17:24- There is, of course...

0:17:24 > 0:17:28- The police are aware that there - are problems and we know that.

0:17:28 > 0:17:30- We are alive to the problem.

0:17:31 > 0:17:34- We have the resources in place - to deal with the problem.

0:17:34 > 0:17:36- We will protect people - of all faiths.

0:17:37 > 0:17:42- Between 1998 and 2015, - 250 people were sentenced...

0:17:42 > 0:17:45- ..for Islamic terrorist offences - in Britain.

0:17:45 > 0:17:49- Samir Baxter feels a need - to be vigilant about extremism...

0:17:49 > 0:17:51- ..from all directions.

0:17:51 > 0:17:54- Is that too simple an answer? - Are you being naive?

0:17:55 > 0:17:57- There is a problem - with radicalisation...

0:17:58 > 0:18:03- ..but we see extreme views - from both sides.

0:18:04 > 0:18:06- A year ago, I think we had...

0:18:09 > 0:18:12- ..the Jo Cox murderer in England.

0:18:14 > 0:18:18- He had right-wing extreme views.

0:18:18 > 0:18:22- I think we have to place the focus - on extreme views...

0:18:22 > 0:18:24- ..and not just Muslim extreme views.

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- The following day, - we were with Samir in London.

0:18:30 > 0:18:34- An anti-terrorism protest - had been organised...

0:18:34 > 0:18:39- ..by Britain First - and the English Defence League...

0:18:39 > 0:18:43- ..in light - of the Westminster attack.

0:18:44 > 0:18:49- According to social media, thousands - were expected on this march.

0:18:49 > 0:18:52- So far, - outside Charing Cross Station...

0:18:52 > 0:18:54- ..there are about 100 of them.

0:18:54 > 0:18:58- There are police here - and along the march route.

0:18:58 > 0:19:00- Fascist scum.

0:19:02 > 0:19:04- Nazi scum.

0:19:04 > 0:19:09- A crowd had gathered - to oppose the protest.

0:19:09 > 0:19:13- Samir said he'd witnessed - Britain First's tactics before.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17- Racist scum.

0:19:17 > 0:19:19- They're just stupid.

0:19:20 > 0:19:23- Last year I visited - an East London mosque...

0:19:23 > 0:19:27- ..and they randomly turned up - with a cross...

0:19:27 > 0:19:31- ..and started abusing - the Muslims in the mosque.

0:19:31 > 0:19:36- I think they were trying - to get a reaction for YouTube.

0:19:38 > 0:19:41- This is Paul Golding, - leader of Britain First.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45- He was imprisoned last December - after driving four supporters...

0:19:45 > 0:19:48- ..to the Al Manar mosque - in Cardiff...

0:19:48 > 0:19:50- ..with the intention - of taking over the mosque.

0:19:51 > 0:19:55- He agreed to talk to me and insisted - that Masood had been radicalised...

0:19:55 > 0:19:58- ..by Islamic extremists - whilst in prison.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03- The prisons are run by Muslim gangs. - I've just come out of one of them.

0:20:04 > 0:20:07- The prisons are run by Muslim gangs - who radicalise people.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11- He came out of prison, was a - radicalised Muslim, an extremist...

0:20:11 > 0:20:14- There's no proof of that. - It's not been proven.

0:20:14 > 0:20:18- You as a left-wing journalist - can bury your head in the sand.

0:20:18 > 0:20:22- We don't bury our heads in the sand. - This is Islamic terrorism.

0:20:22 > 0:20:25- Do we have a far right-wing problem?

0:20:25 > 0:20:27- No.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29- Isn't that what this is about?

0:20:29 > 0:20:34- We're not far right, we're not - far right. We're not racist.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37- We are British, patriotic, - we love our country.

0:20:37 > 0:20:42- We're sick to death of left-wing - journalists ruining this country.

0:20:44 > 0:20:49- As an impartial journalist, - I spoke to many of his supporters...

0:20:49 > 0:20:53- ..including one - originally from Aberdare.

0:20:53 > 0:20:58- I very much resent the way that the - Muslims seem to be taking over...

0:20:58 > 0:21:00- ..and dictating things.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04- They are segregating themselves - from the British way of life.

0:21:05 > 0:21:08- Isn't that what you're doing? - Segregating yourself?

0:21:09 > 0:21:12- Just generally, - I want my country to be British...

0:21:13 > 0:21:16- ..and I want people - who come into this country...

0:21:16 > 0:21:18- ..to abide by our laws - and way of life.

0:21:18 > 0:21:21- There is a history of clashes...

0:21:21 > 0:21:26- ..between right-wing groups - and anti-Fascist protestors.

0:21:26 > 0:21:30- The police were there - in their hundreds waiting for them.

0:21:40 > 0:21:42- According to the - Metropolitan Police...

0:21:43 > 0:21:48- ..14 people were arrested - for various public order offences.

0:21:48 > 0:21:53- According to Samir, the protestors - do themselves more harm than good.

0:21:55 > 0:22:01- To be honest, allowing them - to do what they're doing...

0:22:01 > 0:22:07- ..shows everyone in this country how - bigoted and small-minded they are.

0:22:08 > 0:22:10- It goes against their favour.

0:22:15 > 0:22:19- Following the protest, - Samir wanted to pay tribute...

0:22:19 > 0:22:24- ..to the four who lost their lives - and the 50 who were injured...

0:22:24 > 0:22:27- ..due to Khalid Masood's actions.

0:22:27 > 0:22:32- Actually visiting the place - where the attack happened...

0:22:32 > 0:22:34- ..where people died...

0:22:34 > 0:22:38- ..it's sad and emotional to be here.

0:22:41 > 0:22:44- Khalid Masood - called himself a Muslim.

0:22:44 > 0:22:51- For many, there is no link between - these murders and Islamic values.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56- You're all brothers - in the Islamic faith.

0:22:56 > 0:23:01- How does it feel when one of - your brothers commits these crimes?

0:23:01 > 0:23:03- He wasn't my brother.

0:23:03 > 0:23:07- If you're a true Muslim, - you don't do things like that.

0:23:07 > 0:23:09- God says in the Quran...

0:23:09 > 0:23:15- ..that if you kill just one person, - you have killed the world.

0:23:16 > 0:23:19- Islam is clear - with things like that.

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