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0:00:11 > 0:00:15- The 2017 Election campaign - is in full flow.
0:00:15 > 0:00:20- Manifestos have been published, - candidates are knocking doors.
0:00:20 > 0:00:23- We're with them in the race - to 10 Downing Street.
0:00:23 > 0:00:26- Last night, - the Lib Dems and Plaid Cymru...
0:00:26 > 0:00:29- ..were challenged - about their policies for Wales.
0:00:29 > 0:00:33- Tonight, two more familiar faces - are on the campaign trail.
0:00:35 > 0:00:37- Do you really believe...
0:00:37 > 0:00:41- What's Westminster going to do - - keep all the money for England?
0:00:42 > 0:00:44- That's what they usually do.
0:00:44 > 0:00:49- Only one reference to Jeremy Corbyn.
0:00:49 > 0:00:55- I'm sad, as are many delegates - at this conference.
0:01:01 > 0:01:03- First tonight, UKIP.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07- The past year has been a - rollercoaster for the purple party.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10- They won Brexit but lost Farage.
0:01:10 > 0:01:15- They won Assembly seats, then lost - two before losing their only MP.
0:01:15 > 0:01:19- What now for the self-proclaimed - people's party?
0:01:19 > 0:01:21- Here's Dylan Iorwerth.
0:01:24 > 0:01:27- Yes, today there is a mystery - to solve.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31- Thousands and thousands of people - seem to have disappeared.
0:01:31 > 0:01:35- An entire race called PUKIPs - - the people of UKIP.
0:01:35 > 0:01:38- They've all disappeared, - but where did they go?
0:01:42 > 0:01:46- Until a few months ago, - they were everywhere.
0:01:46 > 0:01:49- Today, there are only - a few Nuttalls left.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52- We need to find out - what happened to them.
0:01:52 > 0:01:54- Are they in danger?
0:01:57 > 0:02:01- I've heard that some clues - have been found here.
0:02:01 > 0:02:05- There are certainly - plenty of bodies.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09- Things are starting to make sense.
0:02:10 > 0:02:12- Some were flattened - trying to lift the weight.
0:02:13 > 0:02:18- Someone else was meant to hold - the bar but he did an Elis-Thomas...
0:02:18 > 0:02:20- ..and found new friends.
0:02:25 > 0:02:29- The feet of thousands were crushed - when Nigel dropped the dumbbells.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36- And then running, - especially running on Europe.
0:02:37 > 0:02:40- The faster you go, - the harder it is to hold on.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47- You're not meant to push others - off the running machine...
0:02:48 > 0:02:50- ..but it can happen sometimes.
0:02:51 > 0:02:54- Exercising can be dangerous.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57- The answer is a campaign - to save pubs.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02- Say it's better to invest money - in the NHS than in foreign aid...
0:03:03 > 0:03:07- ..and of course, stop immigration, - apart from Assembly Members.
0:03:09 > 0:03:12- The only other answer - is to hold on...
0:03:12 > 0:03:17- ..hope the others falter - and wait for a second wind.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22- Well, the mystery's been solved.
0:03:23 > 0:03:27- What about the next instalment? - Will they rise once more?
0:03:34 > 0:03:39- Will there be a second wind - in UKIP's campaign this year?
0:03:39 > 0:03:43- Helen Mary Jones - has been talking to the team.
0:03:46 > 0:03:47- I'm Helen Mary Jones.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50- I was a Plaid Cymru AM - for over 10 years.
0:03:50 > 0:03:52- I now work in the Third Sector.
0:03:53 > 0:03:57- In this election, - I want to find out more about UKIP.
0:03:57 > 0:04:00- UKIP in Wales? I'm not so sure.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- Are they actually relevant - after Brexit?
0:04:04 > 0:04:07- UKIP and the Tories - have the same message.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09- What do they have to offer us - in Wales?
0:04:10 > 0:04:12- If this election is about Brexit...
0:04:12 > 0:04:15- ..as Theresa May justifies it...
0:04:15 > 0:04:18- ..then we need to have - a big vote for UKIP...
0:04:18 > 0:04:20- ..to keep the Tories honest - in effect.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24- She was a Remainer, she didn't want - the referendum in the first place.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28- I honestly couldn't tell you...
0:04:28 > 0:04:31- ..but where's the difference - between you and the Tories?
0:04:32 > 0:04:36- There are loads of policies - where we differ from the Tories.
0:04:36 > 0:04:39- This is the challenge - that UKIP has now got...
0:04:39 > 0:04:41- ..to establish its purpose.
0:04:41 > 0:04:45- We've established ourselves as part - of the domestic political scene.
0:04:45 > 0:04:50- We are participating in debates - on health and education...
0:04:50 > 0:04:52- ..which have been devolved to Wales.
0:04:53 > 0:04:56- The challenge for us now - post-Brexit...
0:04:56 > 0:04:59- ..is to imprint upon the mind - of the average voter...
0:05:00 > 0:05:04- ..what UKIP stands for without - having to explain it to them.
0:05:06 > 0:05:10- I'm on my way to speak to the - only candidate who speaks Welsh.
0:05:11 > 0:05:15- I'm looking forward to - locking horns with Ken Rees again.
0:05:18 > 0:05:20- Hello, how are you?
0:05:20 > 0:05:22- How are you, Ken? Nice to see you.
0:05:26 > 0:05:28- There's a camera behind me!
0:05:29 > 0:05:30- Righto. OK, thanks.
0:05:31 > 0:05:35- What does UKIP have to offer Wales?
0:05:35 > 0:05:40- Your leader, Neil Hamilton, - he doesn't even live in Wales.
0:05:40 > 0:05:45- How can Welsh people trust you - on a political level?
0:05:45 > 0:05:50- I'm as much of a Welshman - as anyone in Plaid Cymru.
0:05:50 > 0:05:56- I'm broader in my outlook because - I can see beyond Offa's Dyke.
0:05:56 > 0:06:01- I can see all the way up to Scotland - and all the way down to Cornwall.
0:06:01 > 0:06:03- I want every country - to stand united...
0:06:04 > 0:06:06- Even if Wales continues to suffer...
0:06:07 > 0:06:10- ..and we don't get our fair share - from the government?
0:06:11 > 0:06:15- We should get our share - and when we're out of Europe...
0:06:15 > 0:06:17- ..we'll have a greater share...
0:06:18 > 0:06:22- ..because every pound we pay - into Europe, we get 70p back.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25- They decide - where we spend that money.
0:06:25 > 0:06:29- This is true for Great Britain - but it's not true about Wales.
0:06:30 > 0:06:32- Do you really believe...
0:06:32 > 0:06:37- What's Westminster going to do - - keep all the money for England?
0:06:37 > 0:06:39- That's what they usually do.
0:06:39 > 0:06:41- They won't get the chance.
0:06:42 > 0:06:44- If we vote for UKIP MPs in Wales...
0:06:45 > 0:06:48- ..will they fight for Wales - to receive its fair share?
0:06:48 > 0:06:53- We'll get our share, not the share - according to the Barnett Formula.
0:06:56 > 0:07:01- I hope you don't expect me - to post them through, Ken.
0:07:01 > 0:07:05- What's UKIP's unique selling point?
0:07:05 > 0:07:08- My heart is in the United Kingdom, - to keep it united.
0:07:08 > 0:07:12- The Conservative and Unionist - parties want the same.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15- Did they fight for Brexit?
0:07:15 > 0:07:21- Some did. Boris Johnson fought - for both sides at the same time.
0:07:21 > 0:07:25- Theresa May was very quiet - during the referendum campaign...
0:07:25 > 0:07:28- ..and after the referendum - she declared...
0:07:28 > 0:07:31- Don't tell me - you don't trust her either!
0:07:32 > 0:07:35- What will happen to UKIP - during this election?
0:07:35 > 0:07:40- I want to know what the people - of Llanelli think about it.
0:07:42 > 0:07:46- Have you considered - supporting UKIP in the past?
0:07:46 > 0:07:48- I haven't thought about it.
0:07:48 > 0:07:50- I haven't thought about it.- - What are your thoughts about UKIP?
0:07:50 > 0:07:54- I think UKIP are good myself.
0:07:54 > 0:07:57- The leader they've got is, - his name is Nuttall.
0:07:57 > 0:07:58- There we are, says it all.
0:07:59 > 0:08:02- UKIP are a spent force. - A flash in the pan.
0:08:03 > 0:08:07- I don't trust any one of them. - They're all the same.
0:08:08 > 0:08:12- UKIP's candidates think - they have a future in Wales...
0:08:12 > 0:08:15- ..and in Ken, - they have an amiable candidate...
0:08:16 > 0:08:19- ..but I still didn't get - the answers I wanted.
0:08:19 > 0:08:23- What is the point of UKIP - now that Brexit has been achieved?
0:08:23 > 0:08:25- What is the point of UKIP...
0:08:25 > 0:08:28- ..now that Theresa May - has taken many of their policies?
0:08:28 > 0:08:32- What is the point of UKIP - to the people of Wales?
0:08:32 > 0:08:36- I think this will be UKIP's - last election campaign in Wales.
0:08:44 > 0:08:49- How does the people's party think - it will regain the people's trust?
0:08:50 > 0:08:54- I'm at their manifesto launch - to interview Suzanne Evans.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58- Our country needs - a radical, social, economic...
0:08:59 > 0:09:01- ..and democratic change.
0:09:01 > 0:09:05- The blueprint is here. - All you have to do is vote for it.
0:09:07 > 0:09:11- You've got your Brexit vote. - What's the point of UKIP anymore?
0:09:11 > 0:09:14- You heard at our manifesto launch...
0:09:14 > 0:09:17- ..there's so much more - that UKIP stands for.
0:09:18 > 0:09:22- We played a huge role in getting - Brexit and that was our No.1 goal.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25- We're delighted - we're on our way to achieving it.
0:09:25 > 0:09:28- We have to make sure Brexit happens.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32- There are signs that Theresa May - will be backsiding on Brexit.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35- UKIP needs to be there - as the guard dogs of Brexit...
0:09:35 > 0:09:37- ..to make sure we get out.
0:09:37 > 0:09:40- You mentioned social cohesion - and integration.
0:09:41 > 0:09:46- How will you achieve it when you're - making immigrants the problem?
0:09:46 > 0:09:49- UKIP has never, ever - made immigrants the problem.
0:09:50 > 0:09:53- Journalists have tried - to make out that we're making...
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- You're telling people - that immigration is a problem.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00- We're telling people - immigration is a problem.
0:10:00 > 0:10:03- There's a difference in talking - about the numbers of people...
0:10:04 > 0:10:07- ..coming into a country and saying - you individually are a problem.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10- You're targeting immigrants.
0:10:10 > 0:10:11- Absolutely not.
0:10:11 > 0:10:14- I would be the first person - to speak out...
0:10:14 > 0:10:17- ..against anybody - targeting immigrants.
0:10:18 > 0:10:22- The problem is that the government - has allowed immigration...
0:10:22 > 0:10:24- ..to spiral out of control.
0:10:24 > 0:10:27- Sadly, there are people - who start to attack immigrants.
0:10:28 > 0:10:32- What UKIP wants to do is to give - immigration its good name back...
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- ..by inviting the brightest - and the best to Britain...
0:10:37 > 0:10:40- ..by inviting those - who respect British values.
0:10:40 > 0:10:44- The only way to give immigration its - good name back again is to do that.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46- The sooner that happens the better.
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- How do you hope - to improve integration...
0:10:50 > 0:10:55- ..when you intend to ban burkas - which ignores differences...
0:10:55 > 0:10:57- Would you like to wear one?
0:10:57 > 0:10:58- Would you like to wear one?- - It's not my personal choice.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01- I appreciate other people's choice.
0:11:01 > 0:11:03- It's not personal choice.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05- I do actually do my research.
0:11:06 > 0:11:10- I have a lot of contact with the - Muslim community and I talk to them.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13- The niqab - is not a symbol of liberation.
0:11:13 > 0:11:15- It is not a symbol - of feminist power.
0:11:15 > 0:11:17- This is an unmistakable...
0:11:18 > 0:11:20- They don't have a choice - if you ban it.
0:11:21 > 0:11:24- There is no human right - to conceal your identity.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28- That is the other issue. - It's not just about...
0:11:28 > 0:11:31- There is a human right to religion.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34- It's not Islamic. - You're showing your ignorance.
0:11:35 > 0:11:36- The veil is not Islamic.
0:11:36 > 0:11:42- We've had imams in mosques around - the country supporting our approach.
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- One said you don't need a tribal rag - on your face to worship God.
0:11:46 > 0:11:48- His phrase, not mine.
0:11:49 > 0:11:52- There are women - in the Muslim community...
0:11:52 > 0:11:55- ..who feel as strongly against this - as we do.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58- We stand in solidarity - with those women...
0:11:58 > 0:12:01- ..who are forced to wear the veil.
0:12:01 > 0:12:05- How long will UKIP last as a party? - Do you live and die by Brexit?
0:12:05 > 0:12:07- How long is a piece of string?
0:12:07 > 0:12:11- There is more of a need than ever - for a third party in Britain...
0:12:11 > 0:12:15- ..that says something different to - what the other parties are saying.
0:12:16 > 0:12:20- We are the only party - that wants to invest in defence...
0:12:20 > 0:12:24- ..the only party that's found - real money, 11bn...
0:12:24 > 0:12:27- ..to invest in the NHS - and social care.
0:12:27 > 0:12:32- We're the only party that wants to - scrap green levies on energy bills.
0:12:33 > 0:12:35- A markedly different offering.
0:12:35 > 0:12:39- People will see that what UKIP - has to offer is different.
0:12:40 > 0:12:41- Thank you very much.
0:12:41 > 0:12:42- Thank you very much.- - Pleasure. Thank you.
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0:13:01 > 0:13:02- Welcome back.
0:13:02 > 0:13:07- The red rose of Labour has dominated - Wales for almost a century.
0:13:07 > 0:13:11- The party has won a majority - in every election since 1922.
0:13:11 > 0:13:15- The beginning of the election - campaign sprung a shock...
0:13:16 > 0:13:19- ..with forecasts of the Tories - taking Wales.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23- What are the challenges for Labour - today? Here's Dylan Iorwerth.
0:13:26 > 0:13:30- Having nightmares and not being able - to sleep is a terrible experience.
0:13:30 > 0:13:34- It's even worse when you wake up - and realise it wasn't a nightmare.
0:13:41 > 0:13:44- Wherever Carwyn goes, - the nightmare follows him...
0:13:44 > 0:13:48- ..however hard he tries to pretend - it doesn't exist.
0:13:51 > 0:13:55- He remembers performing Macbeth - in school.
0:13:55 > 0:13:58- The story about Banquo's spirit - returning during a feast.
0:13:58 > 0:14:00- This spirit is very much alive.
0:14:08 > 0:14:12- He remembers the old days when - the Welsh wanted clear red water...
0:14:12 > 0:14:14- ..between them and Labour in London.
0:14:15 > 0:14:19- Right now, a drop or two of - cloudy pink water would do nicely.
0:14:25 > 0:14:30- Another nightmare is climate change - as the sea of blue rises constantly.
0:14:30 > 0:14:33- Hiding your head in the sand - doesn't work anymore...
0:14:33 > 0:14:35- ..because the sand has gone.
0:14:35 > 0:14:39- The answer is the boys in blue.
0:14:39 > 0:14:43- Give Wales the right - to control the police.
0:14:43 > 0:14:47- That will guarantee 10m - for the investment fund.
0:14:49 > 0:14:54- Promise miracles - - a devolution bill which makes sense.
0:14:54 > 0:14:56- Not one but two manifestos.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02- If you don't like this one, - you can vote for him.
0:15:02 > 0:15:04- Then you'll have him or him.
0:15:05 > 0:15:08- Three slogans - to rescue Welsh Labour.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10- Don't Mention Jeremy.
0:15:10 > 0:15:11- Cor-bin!
0:15:11 > 0:15:14- For The Many Not The Few.
0:15:14 > 0:15:17- The question at the end - of the campaign is...
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- ..will Carwyn be saying phew?
0:15:27 > 0:15:30- Is there an end to the nightmare - for Carwyn and Corbyn?
0:15:31 > 0:15:35- Liberal peer Roger Roberts - spent the day with the Labour party.
0:15:39 > 0:15:47- I'm like a fly on the wall - at Welsh Labour's manifesto launch.
0:15:48 > 0:15:53- It's such a pity to see - the Labour party divided.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55- And it is divided.
0:15:55 > 0:15:58- Jeremy Corbyn doesn't have - the support of half his team...
0:15:58 > 0:16:00- ..in Westminster.
0:16:00 > 0:16:04- I'm here to see - what they have to offer for Wales.
0:16:08 > 0:16:13- Are you part of this Liberals - For Labour mob organisation?
0:16:13 > 0:16:15- No. No, I'm not. No.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17- I saw your name on the headed paper.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21- Somebody's going to get - a solicitor's letter.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29- It's a pleasure to be in Northop...
0:16:29 > 0:16:34- ..on this campus - and in this college once again.
0:16:34 > 0:16:37- Our Welsh manifesto - is an ambitious plan...
0:16:37 > 0:16:39- ..of what Welsh Labour - can do together...
0:16:40 > 0:16:42- ..working in the Assembly - and Westminster.
0:16:43 > 0:16:46- Unlike the Tories, we stand ready - to deliver on the big projects...
0:16:47 > 0:16:49- ..that will get our economy moving.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53- The Tories have done nothing - to advance Welsh infrastructure.
0:16:54 > 0:16:58- They'll do nothing for the next five - years if they're given the chance.
0:17:07 > 0:17:12- Only one reference to Jeremy Corbyn.
0:17:13 > 0:17:19- I'm sad, as are many delegates - at this conference.
0:17:22 > 0:17:26- Why was there no mention - of Jeremy Corbyn?
0:17:26 > 0:17:30- There are references to - Jeremy Corbyn in the manifesto...
0:17:30 > 0:17:32- ..but we are Welsh Labour.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36- One thing that's very important - with devolution...
0:17:36 > 0:17:40- ..is that we have more confidence - and a stronger identity.
0:17:40 > 0:17:42- That's wonderful.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44- Jeremy Corbyn is your leader.
0:17:44 > 0:17:48- You would have been far happier - had Carwyn said...
0:17:48 > 0:17:53- ..we have - a Prime Minister in waiting...
0:17:53 > 0:17:57- ..in Jeremy Corbyn and everyone - would applaud, but it didn't happen.
0:17:58 > 0:18:00- This is Welsh Labour's manifesto.
0:18:00 > 0:18:02- Can I also say, more importantly...
0:18:03 > 0:18:10- ..we don't want to see Theresa May - returning with a landslide victory.
0:18:11 > 0:18:13- That's so, so important.
0:18:14 > 0:18:19- I'm reading their policies - but I can't find anything new.
0:18:19 > 0:18:23- They do propose to introduce - a new bank...
0:18:23 > 0:18:27- ..but there's nothing there - to fire you up...
0:18:27 > 0:18:31- ..nothing to ignite you, - nothing visionary.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37- I live in Llandudno. - It's a wonderful town.
0:18:37 > 0:18:39- It attracts many visitors.
0:18:40 > 0:18:46- I want to ask local people their - views on the forthcoming election.
0:18:46 > 0:18:49- What do they think of Jeremy Corbyn - and the Labour party?
0:18:51 > 0:18:53- I think he's dangerous.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55- Dangerous?
0:18:55 > 0:18:58- He wants to get rid - of nuclear weapons...
0:18:58 > 0:19:02- ..but keep the submarines - which carry them.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05- Corbyn? Death of the Labour party.
0:19:05 > 0:19:10- I'd rather Jeremy Corbyn - than Theresa May.
0:19:12 > 0:19:15- I'm voting Labour. - I'm a Labour man to the core.
0:19:15 > 0:19:16- You like Corbyn?
0:19:17 > 0:19:19- I don't like him - but I'm voting Labour.
0:19:22 > 0:19:25- I have the manifesto in my hands.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29- I've had a look through it. - It hasn't been costed properly.
0:19:30 > 0:19:34- Compare the cost - of federal Labour's manifesto...
0:19:34 > 0:19:37- ..and Welsh Labour's manifesto.
0:19:37 > 0:19:40- It's almost like a letter to Santa.
0:19:41 > 0:19:45- The sad thing is - you need an united party...
0:19:45 > 0:19:47- ..to present a manifesto like this.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49- That wasn't evident today.
0:19:49 > 0:19:55- You need an opposition - to stand up to the Tory government.
0:19:55 > 0:19:57- We didn't see that today.
0:20:01 > 0:20:05- The leader of the Labour party - since 2015 is Jeremy Corbyn.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10- Despite some attempts - to overthrow him, he's still here.
0:20:10 > 0:20:13- Can he go one step further - and reach No.10?
0:20:13 > 0:20:17- I asked a member of his - shadow cabinet, Kier Starmer.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21- You and others in your party - have questioned...
0:20:21 > 0:20:24- ..whether Corbyn's the right man - to lead Labour.
0:20:24 > 0:20:29- If you can't back your own man, - why should the electorate back him?
0:20:29 > 0:20:33- Jeremy won the leadership twice - in the Labour Party.
0:20:33 > 0:20:38- Ever since I've backed him - and been in his shadow cabinet.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40- Why should he be Prime Minister?
0:20:40 > 0:20:43- We need a government - that invests in people...
0:20:43 > 0:20:47- ..in the economy, - that holds out hope for the future.
0:20:47 > 0:20:49- Is Jeremy Corbyn the man to do that?
0:20:50 > 0:20:53- Look what's happening - in this campaign.
0:20:53 > 0:20:54- Of course he is.
0:20:55 > 0:20:57- How do you respond to the fact...
0:20:57 > 0:21:01- ..that Corbyn's speech - after the Manchester attack...
0:21:01 > 0:21:04- ..linked what happened there - to foreign policy?
0:21:04 > 0:21:06- Carwyn Jones - said there was no link...
0:21:07 > 0:21:10- ..between Manchester - and the rest of the world.
0:21:10 > 0:21:13- Jeremy was making a wider point - on foreign policy.
0:21:14 > 0:21:15- Is there a link?
0:21:15 > 0:21:20- There's always a link between - any foreign policy and what goes on.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24- It's wrong in the context - of Manchester to blame anyone...
0:21:24 > 0:21:27- ..other than the person - that detonated the bomb.
0:21:28 > 0:21:32- Why isn't there a promise in - the manifesto to reduce immigration?
0:21:32 > 0:21:35- We've said we need - a fair immigration system.
0:21:36 > 0:21:38- Which doesn't mean reducing it.
0:21:38 > 0:21:40- We're going into a period...
0:21:40 > 0:21:43- ..where freedom of movement - in the EU will go.
0:21:43 > 0:21:46- That means - we need new immigrations rules.
0:21:46 > 0:21:50- We set out the principles upon - which we would deal with that.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- You can't promise to reduce it.
0:21:53 > 0:21:57- In so far as immigration - is driven by a skill shortage...
0:21:57 > 0:21:59- ..of course we want it to come down.
0:21:59 > 0:22:02- We need a skill strategy - that works for the UK.
0:22:02 > 0:22:04- We don't want to see exploitation.
0:22:04 > 0:22:09- People want a party that promises - to reduce migration. It's not you.
0:22:09 > 0:22:13- Let's look at the Tory promise - of tens of thousands...
0:22:14 > 0:22:17- ..that's been their position - for seven years.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19- It is coming down.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21- It is coming down.- - They've never achieved it.
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- If they do ever achieve it, - it would cause economic damage.
0:22:26 > 0:22:30- Wales have given Labour a majority - in every election since 1922.
0:22:30 > 0:22:36- Why should Wales back you again when - it's the poorest part of the UK?
0:22:36 > 0:22:39- It's true, - Labour's done well in Wales.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42- I hope they will continue - to do well in Wales.
0:22:42 > 0:22:45- We're at a turning point, - post-Brexit...
0:22:45 > 0:22:47- ..in a different European world.
0:22:47 > 0:22:50- We want the right outcome - for the UK and Wales.
0:22:51 > 0:22:57- We've got a Welsh Assembly doing - great things on behalf of Labour.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- One thing that's important - in the manifesto...
0:23:00 > 0:23:04- ..is this looking again - at devolution and where power is.
0:23:04 > 0:23:08- Power and resource has to be - better spread across the UK.
0:23:08 > 0:23:12- If you don't win on June 8, - should Jeremy Corbyn step down?
0:23:13 > 0:23:17- What happens after June 8 is a - discussion we'll have after June 8.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20- We are behind Jeremy - in seeking to win on June 8.
0:23:20 > 0:23:22- Keir Starmer, thank you.
0:23:28 > 0:23:30- That's it for tonight.
0:23:30 > 0:23:35- In the final programme, Sian James - will challenge the Conservatives...
0:23:36 > 0:23:40- ..and former footballer, Owain - Tudur Jones returns to Scotland...
0:23:40 > 0:23:43- ..to see if the SNP - have upped their game.
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