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:00:26. > :00:27.Good afternoon. Welcome to am.pm, Good afternoon. Welcome to am.pm,

:00:27. > :00:29.Good afternoon. Welcome to am.pm, and all weekly coverage of First

:00:29. > :00:30.and all weekly coverage of First and all weekly coverage of First

:00:30. > :00:33.Minister 's questions. A mixed bag Minister 's questions. A mixed bag

:00:33. > :00:35.Minister 's questions. A mixed bag of issues coming up today. Questions

:00:35. > :00:36.of issues coming up today. Questions of issues coming up today. Questions

:00:36. > :00:37.on the NHS, including plans to on the NHS, including plans to

:00:37. > :00:38.on the NHS, including plans to change near NATO provision. Carwyn

:00:38. > :00:39.change near NATO provision. Carwyn change near NATO provision. Carwyn

:00:40. > :00:41.change near NATO provision. Carwyn Jones will also be asked about child

:00:41. > :00:42.Jones will also be asked about child Jones will also be asked about child

:00:42. > :00:44.poverty, road safety, and the poverty, road safety, and the

:00:44. > :00:45.poverty, road safety, and the proposals for a new Welsh honours

:00:45. > :00:46.proposals for a new Welsh honours proposals for a new Welsh honours

:00:46. > :00:48.proposals for a new Welsh honours system. We want to hear from you,

:00:48. > :00:49.system. We want to hear from you, system. We want to hear from you,

:00:49. > :00:50.system. We want to hear from you, too. You can comment on anything on

:00:50. > :01:00.too. You can comment on anything on too. You can comment on anything on

:01:00. > :01:01.

:01:01. > :01:02.this program or anything else Business in the chamber has already

:01:02. > :01:03.Business in the chamber has already Business in the chamber has already

:01:03. > :01:06.kicked off so let's go over there kicked off so let's go over there

:01:06. > :01:09.kicked off so let's go over there for questions to the first-minister.

:01:09. > :01:13.for questions to the first-minister. for questions to the first-minister.

:01:13. > :01:15.The first item, the first question The first item, the first question

:01:15. > :01:16.The first item, the first question this afternoon. What support is the

:01:16. > :01:19.this afternoon. What support is the worst Government giving to

:01:19. > :01:20.worst Government giving to worst Government giving to

:01:20. > :01:21.International women's Day? The Welsh International women's Day? The Welsh

:01:21. > :01:26.Government is supporting Government is supporting

:01:26. > :01:26.International women's day by International women's day by

:01:26. > :01:28.International women's day by providing funding to 34 events and

:01:28. > :01:37.providing funding to 34 events and providing funding to 34 events and

:01:37. > :01:38.Since the first International Since the first International

:01:38. > :01:40.Since the first International women's Day 100 years ago, women

:01:40. > :01:40.women's Day 100 years ago, women women's Day 100 years ago, women

:01:40. > :01:41.women's Day 100 years ago, women have made great strides in all walks

:01:41. > :01:43.have made great strides in all walks have made great strides in all walks

:01:43. > :01:44.have made great strides in all walks of life, but the number of women in

:01:44. > :01:45.of life, but the number of women in of life, but the number of women in

:01:45. > :01:51.of life, but the number of women in positions of influence in the UK has

:01:51. > :01:53.positions of influence in the UK has positions of influence in the UK has

:01:53. > :01:54.plummeted. UK Government policy has plummeted. UK Government policy has

:01:54. > :01:54.plummeted. UK Government policy has meant the number of unemployed young

:01:55. > :01:56.meant the number of unemployed young women has increased

:01:56. > :02:00.women has increased disproportionately. We support the

:02:00. > :02:01.disproportionately. We support the Welsh Government gives to

:02:01. > :02:02.Welsh Government gives to Welsh Government gives to

:02:02. > :02:04.International women's Day is very International women's Day is very

:02:04. > :02:04.International women's Day is very welcome indeed but what other

:02:04. > :02:08.welcome indeed but what other welcome indeed but what other

:02:08. > :02:10.encouragement can you give to encouragement can you give to

:02:10. > :02:11.encouragement can you give to encouragement can you give to

:02:11. > :02:11.women? We want to ensure at least women? We want to ensure at least

:02:11. > :02:16.women? We want to ensure at least 40% of public appointments in Wales

:02:16. > :02:16.40% of public appointments in Wales 40% of public appointments in Wales

:02:17. > :02:17.40% of public appointments in Wales are filled I women. This is also

:02:17. > :02:24.are filled I women. This is also are filled I women. This is also

:02:24. > :02:27.reflected in our strategic equality reflected in our strategic equality

:02:27. > :02:28.reflected in our strategic equality plan. International women's Day is a

:02:28. > :02:29.plan. International women's Day is a great day to celebrate

:02:29. > :02:29.great day to celebrate great day to celebrate

:02:30. > :02:32.entrepreneurial women as well. Can entrepreneurial women as well. Can

:02:32. > :02:33.entrepreneurial women as well. Can entrepreneurial women as well. Can

:02:33. > :02:34.you tell me whether you have had any you tell me whether you have had any

:02:34. > :02:36.conversations with your education conversations with your education

:02:36. > :02:44.conversations with your education Minister about promoting business to

:02:44. > :02:46.Minister about promoting business to Minister about promoting business to

:02:46. > :02:46.Minister about promoting business to girls at school? I cannot say I have

:02:46. > :02:51.girls at school? I cannot say I have had specific conversations about

:02:51. > :02:55.had specific conversations about had specific conversations about

:02:55. > :02:58.those issues. I heard your answer those issues. I heard your answer

:02:58. > :02:59.those issues. I heard your answer about women getting to the top.

:02:59. > :03:00.about women getting to the top. about women getting to the top.

:03:00. > :03:01.about women getting to the top. Would you like to speculate when you

:03:01. > :03:01.Would you like to speculate when you Would you like to speculate when you

:03:01. > :03:06.Would you like to speculate when you think this assembly will be led by a

:03:06. > :03:06.woman? LAUGHTER

:03:07. > :03:07.LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

:03:07. > :03:15.LAUGHTER That is a matter for the Welsh

:03:15. > :03:17.That is a matter for the Welsh electorate. We'll be first-minister

:03:17. > :03:18.electorate. We'll be first-minister electorate. We'll be first-minister

:03:18. > :03:23.electorate. We'll be first-minister make a statement on child poverty in

:03:23. > :03:23.make a statement on child poverty in make a statement on child poverty in

:03:23. > :03:28.Cardiff South and Penarth? Tackling Cardiff South and Penarth? Tackling

:03:28. > :03:30.Cardiff South and Penarth? Tackling child poverty is a priority. We

:03:30. > :03:32.child poverty is a priority. We child poverty is a priority. We

:03:32. > :03:39.participate in a pilot approach to participate in a pilot approach to

:03:39. > :03:39.participate in a pilot approach to youth employment mentors. You may be

:03:39. > :03:42.youth employment mentors. You may be youth employment mentors. You may be

:03:42. > :03:43.aware that statistics released in aware that statistics released in

:03:43. > :03:44.aware that statistics released in aware that statistics released in

:03:44. > :03:45.January this year by the end child January this year by the end child

:03:45. > :03:47.January this year by the end child poverty campaign group show that

:03:47. > :03:48.poverty campaign group show that poverty campaign group show that

:03:48. > :03:49.Cardiff South and Penarth has the Cardiff South and Penarth has the

:03:49. > :03:50.Cardiff South and Penarth has the highest percentage and volume of

:03:50. > :03:51.highest percentage and volume of highest percentage and volume of

:03:51. > :03:53.numbers of children living in numbers of children living in

:03:53. > :03:56.numbers of children living in numbers of children living in

:03:57. > :03:59.poverty in Wales, with over 30% in poverty in Wales, with over 30% in

:03:59. > :04:02.poverty in Wales, with over 30% in that category. I accept that you

:04:02. > :04:02.that category. I accept that you that category. I accept that you

:04:02. > :04:04.that category. I accept that you have an impact. My concern is what

:04:04. > :04:05.have an impact. My concern is what have an impact. My concern is what

:04:05. > :04:08.have an impact. My concern is what the impact would be worthy in terms

:04:08. > :04:10.the impact would be worthy in terms the impact would be worthy in terms

:04:10. > :04:11.the impact would be worthy in terms not to exist. Can you make a comment

:04:11. > :04:20.not to exist. Can you make a comment not to exist. Can you make a comment

:04:20. > :04:20.on the ongoing strategy on child on the ongoing strategy on child

:04:20. > :04:23.on the ongoing strategy on child poverty? The figures do inform us

:04:23. > :04:27.poverty? The figures do inform us poverty? The figures do inform us

:04:27. > :04:32.very strongly in terms of our very strongly in terms of our

:04:32. > :04:33.very strongly in terms of our actions to tackle child poverty. A

:04:33. > :04:34.actions to tackle child poverty. A actions to tackle child poverty. A

:04:34. > :04:35.number of communities in Cardiff number of communities in Cardiff

:04:35. > :04:36.number of communities in Cardiff South and Penarth have already

:04:36. > :04:39.South and Penarth have already South and Penarth have already

:04:39. > :04:41.benefited from one of our schemes, benefited from one of our schemes,

:04:41. > :04:42.benefited from one of our schemes, benefited from one of our schemes,

:04:42. > :04:44.for example. Once due - back one for example. Once due - back one

:04:44. > :04:50.for example. Once due - back one primary school has been awarded

:04:50. > :04:51.primary school has been awarded primary school has been awarded

:04:51. > :04:52.millions of pounds. Given that Wales millions of pounds. Given that Wales

:04:52. > :04:54.millions of pounds. Given that Wales has the highest levels of child

:04:54. > :04:55.has the highest levels of child has the highest levels of child

:04:55. > :04:58.has the highest levels of child poverty in the UK based on relative

:04:58. > :04:59.poverty in the UK based on relative poverty in the UK based on relative

:04:59. > :05:03.measures of child poverty, 60% of measures of child poverty, 60% of

:05:03. > :05:04.measures of child poverty, 60% of household median income, given the

:05:04. > :05:07.household median income, given the household median income, given the

:05:07. > :05:07.consequences of that, that is even consequences of that, that is even

:05:08. > :05:09.consequences of that, that is even when relative poverty falls, real

:05:09. > :05:10.when relative poverty falls, real when relative poverty falls, real

:05:10. > :05:11.when relative poverty falls, real income may not be rising and poverty

:05:11. > :05:15.income may not be rising and poverty income may not be rising and poverty

:05:15. > :05:16.income may not be rising and poverty may be stable or increasing. How do

:05:16. > :05:17.may be stable or increasing. How do may be stable or increasing. How do

:05:17. > :05:20.you respond to proposals of you respond to proposals of

:05:20. > :05:24.you respond to proposals of definitions of trial poverty being

:05:24. > :05:25.definitions of trial poverty being definitions of trial poverty being

:05:25. > :05:26.definitions of trial poverty being changed? These are issues that are a

:05:26. > :05:26.changed? These are issues that are a changed? These are issues that are a

:05:26. > :05:28.matter of consultation on behalf of matter of consultation on behalf of

:05:28. > :05:32.matter of consultation on behalf of the UK Government. We will be

:05:32. > :05:33.the UK Government. We will be the UK Government. We will be

:05:33. > :05:34.answering the consultation to ensure answering the consultation to ensure

:05:34. > :05:35.answering the consultation to ensure that statistics produced in the

:05:35. > :05:36.that statistics produced in the that statistics produced in the

:05:36. > :05:37.future are as accurate as possible. future are as accurate as possible.

:05:37. > :05:39.future are as accurate as possible. future are as accurate as possible.

:05:39. > :05:39.We move to questions to the party We move to questions to the party

:05:39. > :05:45.We move to questions to the party leaders. The leader of the

:05:45. > :05:46.leaders. The leader of the opposition. Thank you. Presiding

:05:46. > :05:48.opposition. Thank you. Presiding opposition. Thank you. Presiding

:05:48. > :05:50.Officer, in a recent Government Officer, in a recent Government

:05:50. > :05:52.consultation on community health consultation on community health

:05:52. > :05:53.councils, that consultation said councils, that consultation said

:05:53. > :05:54.that properly functioning community that properly functioning community

:05:54. > :05:56.that properly functioning community health councils are an important

:05:56. > :05:57.health councils are an important health councils are an important

:05:57. > :05:59.health councils are an important part of the fabric of the Welch NHS.

:05:59. > :06:00.part of the fabric of the Welch NHS. part of the fabric of the Welch NHS.

:06:00. > :06:02.Does the first-minister agree with Does the first-minister agree with

:06:02. > :06:03.Does the first-minister agree with that statement? Yes. I am pleased,

:06:03. > :06:08.that statement? Yes. I am pleased, that statement? Yes. I am pleased,

:06:08. > :06:08.because they provide a critical because they provide a critical

:06:08. > :06:10.because they provide a critical role. They carry out inspections of

:06:10. > :06:11.role. They carry out inspections of role. They carry out inspections of

:06:11. > :06:13.role. They carry out inspections of hospitals as well and are a force

:06:13. > :06:14.hospitals as well and are a force hospitals as well and are a force

:06:14. > :06:16.hospitals as well and are a force for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't

:06:16. > :06:17.for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't

:06:17. > :06:18.for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't there a case, then, that the Welsh

:06:18. > :06:21.there a case, then, that the Welsh there a case, then, that the Welsh

:06:21. > :06:25.Government have not started the Government have not started the

:06:25. > :06:27.recruitment process for appointing recruitment process for appointing

:06:27. > :06:28.recruitment process for appointing members to councils that should have

:06:28. > :06:29.members to councils that should have members to councils that should have

:06:29. > :06:30.members to councils that should have started last August? I am well aware

:06:30. > :06:32.started last August? I am well aware started last August? I am well aware

:06:32. > :06:34.of such delays. We know community of such delays. We know community

:06:34. > :06:35.health councils are exceptionally health councils are exceptionally

:06:35. > :06:36.health councils are exceptionally important and route their worth in

:06:36. > :06:36.important and route their worth in important and route their worth in

:06:36. > :06:42.important and route their worth in terms of the way they examine the

:06:42. > :06:44.terms of the way they examine the reconfiguration proposals. It is

:06:44. > :06:48.reconfiguration proposals. It is reconfiguration proposals. It is

:06:48. > :06:50.disappointing to note that you were disappointing to note that you were

:06:50. > :06:50.disappointing to note that you were unaware, given that your own comment

:06:51. > :06:51.unaware, given that your own comment unaware, given that your own comment

:06:51. > :06:52.on community health councils showed on community health councils showed

:06:52. > :06:54.on community health councils showed on community health councils showed

:06:54. > :06:55.that you hold such store by them. In that you hold such store by them. In

:06:55. > :06:58.that you hold such store by them. In reform is by the previous health

:06:58. > :06:59.reform is by the previous health Minister there are particular

:06:59. > :07:00.Minister there are particular Minister there are particular

:07:00. > :07:01.appointments made to enable them to appointments made to enable them to

:07:01. > :07:03.appointments made to enable them to appointments made to enable them to

:07:03. > :07:05.carry out their jobs as boards and carry out their jobs as boards and

:07:05. > :07:07.inspection processes, for patients. inspection processes, for patients.

:07:07. > :07:09.inspection processes, for patients. inspection processes, for patients.

:07:10. > :07:11.April the 1st is when the first new April the 1st is when the first new

:07:11. > :07:11.April the 1st is when the first new April the 1st is when the first new

:07:12. > :07:12.term is going to be carried out and term is going to be carried out and

:07:12. > :07:14.term is going to be carried out and get no appointments have been

:07:14. > :07:15.get no appointments have been get no appointments have been

:07:15. > :07:16.named. This process takes six months named. This process takes six months

:07:16. > :07:18.named. This process takes six months to complete and therefore, for at

:07:18. > :07:19.to complete and therefore, for at to complete and therefore, for at

:07:19. > :07:21.least half a year, many community least half a year, many community

:07:21. > :07:22.least half a year, many community health councils are going to find

:07:22. > :07:22.health councils are going to find health councils are going to find

:07:23. > :07:23.themselves unable to carry out the themselves unable to carry out the

:07:23. > :07:26.themselves unable to carry out the many functions they have to

:07:26. > :07:27.many functions they have to many functions they have to

:07:27. > :07:29.undertake. Will you make sure that undertake. Will you make sure that

:07:29. > :07:30.undertake. Will you make sure that the process begins today said that

:07:30. > :07:30.the process begins today said that the process begins today said that

:07:30. > :07:31.the process begins today said that those appointments can be made in as

:07:31. > :07:33.those appointments can be made in as those appointments can be made in as

:07:33. > :07:34.short a time as possible, because short a time as possible, because

:07:34. > :07:36.short a time as possible, because the board of community health

:07:36. > :07:36.the board of community health the board of community health

:07:36. > :07:37.councils have been engaging with councils have been engaging with

:07:37. > :07:38.councils have been engaging with councils have been engaging with

:07:38. > :07:38.your Government and to date have not your Government and to date have not

:07:39. > :07:43.your Government and to date have not received an answer why your

:07:43. > :07:46.received an answer why your received an answer why your

:07:46. > :07:48.Government has not been making Government has not been making

:07:48. > :07:51.Government has not been making appointments? The work will be done

:07:51. > :07:53.appointments? The work will be done appointments? The work will be done

:07:53. > :07:55.in the appropriate time. It is in the appropriate time. It is

:07:55. > :07:59.essential that community councils essential that community councils

:07:59. > :07:59.essential that community councils continue as they have been.

:07:59. > :08:02.continue as they have been. continue as they have been.

:08:02. > :08:07.continue as they have been. There has been a 700% increase in

:08:07. > :08:08.There has been a 700% increase in There has been a 700% increase in

:08:08. > :08:09.prosecutions of parents in the last prosecutions of parents in the last

:08:09. > :08:11.prosecutions of parents in the last five years. Your former education

:08:11. > :08:12.five years. Your former education minister said that prosecutions

:08:12. > :08:13.minister said that prosecutions minister said that prosecutions

:08:13. > :08:15.minister said that prosecutions should be very much a last resort

:08:15. > :08:15.should be very much a last resort should be very much a last resort

:08:15. > :08:19.and your current education Minister and your current education Minister

:08:19. > :08:20.and your current education Minister said that he expects a zero

:08:20. > :08:21.said that he expects a zero said that he expects a zero

:08:21. > :08:22.tolerance of truancy. Why has your tolerance of truancy. Why has your

:08:22. > :08:24.tolerance of truancy. Why has your Government failed to get to grips

:08:24. > :08:25.Government failed to get to grips Government failed to get to grips

:08:25. > :08:27.Government failed to get to grips with truancy rates? Surely it is an

:08:27. > :08:34.with truancy rates? Surely it is an with truancy rates? Surely it is an

:08:34. > :08:35.indication that the truancy is being indication that the truancy is being

:08:35. > :08:35.indication that the truancy is being indication that the truancy is being

:08:35. > :08:38.dealt with. It is being dealt with dealt with. It is being dealt with

:08:38. > :08:40.dealt with. It is being dealt with dealt with. It is being dealt with

:08:40. > :08:40.in a robust way. Really your chief in a robust way. Really your chief

:08:40. > :08:42.in a robust way. Really your chief inspector of schools in annual

:08:42. > :08:42.inspector of schools in annual inspector of schools in annual

:08:42. > :08:44.report says that attendance remains report says that attendance remains

:08:44. > :08:45.report says that attendance remains the weakest aspect of for schools

:08:45. > :08:47.the weakest aspect of for schools the weakest aspect of for schools

:08:47. > :08:49.the weakest aspect of for schools and attendance is not good enough in

:08:49. > :08:50.and attendance is not good enough in and attendance is not good enough in

:08:50. > :08:52.over one third secondary schools and over one third secondary schools and

:08:52. > :08:53.over one third secondary schools and it varies too much between primary

:08:53. > :08:54.it varies too much between primary it varies too much between primary

:08:54. > :08:56.schools in the most and least deprived areas.

:08:56. > :08:58.deprived areas. deprived areas.

:08:58. > :09:01.Of course, back in 2006, Doctor Of course, back in 2006, Doctor

:09:01. > :09:02.Of course, back in 2006, Doctor Reeve was commissioned by your

:09:02. > :09:03.Reeve was commissioned by your Government to review national

:09:03. > :09:06.Government to review national Government to review national

:09:06. > :09:07.attendance and he presented his attendance and he presented his

:09:07. > :09:09.attendance and he presented his attendance and he presented his

:09:09. > :09:09.report five years ago. Since then we report five years ago. Since then we

:09:09. > :09:10.report five years ago. Since then we have had two covenant action plans

:09:10. > :09:13.have had two covenant action plans have had two covenant action plans

:09:13. > :09:14.and a national implementation plan and a national implementation plan

:09:14. > :09:14.and a national implementation plan and a national implementation plan

:09:14. > :09:16.so it went to actually see the so it went to actually see the

:09:16. > :09:17.so it went to actually see the findings of that report being

:09:17. > :09:18.findings of that report being findings of that report being

:09:18. > :09:20.implemented and progress made? She implemented and progress made? She

:09:20. > :09:21.implemented and progress made? She implemented and progress made? She

:09:21. > :09:24.does not seem to know that actually does not seem to know that actually

:09:24. > :09:25.does not seem to know that actually the level of absenteeism is

:09:25. > :09:25.the level of absenteeism is the level of absenteeism is

:09:25. > :09:27.decreasing in Welsh schools. decreasing in Welsh schools.

:09:27. > :09:29.decreasing in Welsh schools. attendance in primary and secondary

:09:29. > :09:30.attendance in primary and secondary attendance in primary and secondary

:09:30. > :09:30.schools is. That shows the measures schools is. That shows the measures

:09:30. > :09:31.schools is. That shows the measures schools is. That shows the measures

:09:31. > :09:34.we are taking in this area are we are taking in this area are

:09:34. > :09:35.we are taking in this area are having a positive impact. It has

:09:35. > :09:37.having a positive impact. It has having a positive impact. It has

:09:37. > :09:38.having a positive impact. It has having a positive impact. It has

:09:38. > :09:39.gone up by 0.8% and that is why your gone up by 0.8% and that is why your

:09:39. > :09:40.gone up by 0.8% and that is why your national inspector continues to say

:09:40. > :09:42.national inspector continues to say national inspector continues to say

:09:42. > :09:43.it is the weakest aspect of it is the weakest aspect of

:09:43. > :09:45.it is the weakest aspect of well-being in your schools, and one

:09:45. > :09:46.well-being in your schools, and one well-being in your schools, and one

:09:46. > :09:47.third of secondary schools has third of secondary schools has

:09:47. > :09:49.third of secondary schools has attendance that is not good enough.

:09:49. > :09:50.attendance that is not good enough. attendance that is not good enough.

:09:50. > :09:51.attendance that is not good enough. Let me tell you what the independent

:09:51. > :09:53.Let me tell you what the independent expert that your Government

:09:53. > :09:55.expert that your Government expert that your Government

:09:55. > :09:56.previously employed to look at these previously employed to look at these

:09:56. > :09:58.previously employed to look at these issues on your behalf said. But

:09:58. > :10:00.issues on your behalf said. But issues on your behalf said. But

:10:00. > :10:03.issues on your behalf said. But progress has been made - -- progress

:10:03. > :10:04.progress has been made - -- progress progress has been made - -- progress

:10:04. > :10:04.has been painfully slow. Wales is has been painfully slow. Wales is

:10:04. > :10:06.has been painfully slow. Wales is has been painfully slow. Wales is

:10:06. > :10:07.the only country that does not have the only country that does not have

:10:07. > :10:08.the only country that does not have a strategy in place. Despite what

:10:08. > :10:09.a strategy in place. Despite what a strategy in place. Despite what

:10:09. > :10:10.a strategy in place. Despite what was said five years ago, he says

:10:10. > :10:13.was said five years ago, he says was said five years ago, he says

:10:13. > :10:13.nothing has happened. Nothing has nothing has happened. Nothing has

:10:13. > :10:14.nothing has happened. Nothing has nothing has happened. Nothing has

:10:14. > :10:16.happened. Isn't it your job to make happened. Isn't it your job to make

:10:16. > :10:18.happened. Isn't it your job to make sure something happens? She only saw

:10:18. > :10:18.sure something happens? She only saw sure something happens? She only saw

:10:18. > :10:19.sure something happens? She only saw the figures, and I will read them

:10:19. > :10:20.the figures, and I will read them the figures, and I will read them

:10:20. > :10:24.the figures, and I will read them the figures, and I will read them

:10:24. > :10:26.out to her so she is aware of them. out to her so she is aware of them.

:10:26. > :10:27.out to her so she is aware of them. out to her so she is aware of them.

:10:27. > :10:28.Between 2006 to seven and 2000 and Between 2006 to seven and 2000 and

:10:28. > :10:31.Between 2006 to seven and 2000 and 2011, absence in primary schools was

:10:31. > :10:32.2011, absence in primary schools was 2011, absence in primary schools was

:10:32. > :10:35.2011, absence in primary schools was 2011, absence in primary schools was

:10:35. > :10:36.stable but in 2011 to 2012 it saw a stable but in 2011 to 2012 it saw a

:10:36. > :10:39.stable but in 2011 to 2012 it saw a drop. She's massaging the figures.

:10:39. > :10:42.drop. She's massaging the figures. drop. She's massaging the figures.

:10:42. > :10:42.drop. She's massaging the figures. In 2011 to 2012, 2.6 percent of

:10:43. > :10:45.In 2011 to 2012, 2.6 percent of In 2011 to 2012, 2.6 percent of

:10:45. > :10:46.primary pupils were absent. That is primary pupils were absent. That is

:10:46. > :10:48.primary pupils were absent. That is a significant degree is when you

:10:48. > :10:48.a significant degree is when you a significant degree is when you

:10:48. > :10:55.consider the original figure. That consider the original figure. That

:10:55. > :10:57.consider the original figure. That is something she completely forgets.

:10:57. > :10:58.is something she completely forgets. First-minister, it is particularly

:10:58. > :10:59.First-minister, it is particularly First-minister, it is particularly

:10:59. > :11:00.worrying that living standards in worrying that living standards in

:11:00. > :11:01.worrying that living standards in worrying that living standards in

:11:01. > :11:03.Wales have fallen more than the rest Wales have fallen more than the rest

:11:03. > :11:04.Wales have fallen more than the rest Wales have fallen more than the rest

:11:04. > :11:06.of the UK. Those are not my words of the UK. Those are not my words

:11:06. > :11:08.of the UK. Those are not my words but the words of shadow Welsh

:11:08. > :11:11.but the words of shadow Welsh but the words of shadow Welsh

:11:11. > :11:12.Minister at Westminster, a member of Minister at Westminster, a member of

:11:12. > :11:13.your party. First-minister, you your party. First-minister, you

:11:13. > :11:14.your party. First-minister, you your party. First-minister, you

:11:14. > :11:16.promised to stand up for Wales and promised to stand up for Wales and

:11:16. > :11:19.promised to stand up for Wales and to provide a shield to protect

:11:19. > :11:19.to provide a shield to protect to provide a shield to protect

:11:19. > :11:20.to provide a shield to protect people against the worst of the Tory

:11:20. > :11:21.people against the worst of the Tory people against the worst of the Tory

:11:21. > :11:22.people against the worst of the Tory cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your

:11:22. > :11:23.cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your

:11:23. > :11:28.cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your party seem to think you have failed

:11:28. > :11:32.party seem to think you have failed party seem to think you have failed

:11:32. > :11:34.to provide that shield, are they to provide that shield, are they

:11:34. > :11:35.to provide that shield, are they to provide that shield, are they

:11:35. > :11:35.write? Who said it? Owen Smith said write? Who said it? Owen Smith said

:11:35. > :11:37.write? Who said it? Owen Smith said it is particularly worrying that

:11:37. > :11:42.it is particularly worrying that it is particularly worrying that

:11:42. > :11:44.living standards in Wales have living standards in Wales have

:11:44. > :11:45.living standards in Wales have living standards in Wales have

:11:45. > :11:46.fallen faster than the rest of the fallen faster than the rest of the

:11:46. > :11:47.fallen faster than the rest of the UK? I will doublecheck this evening

:11:47. > :11:48.UK? I will doublecheck this evening UK? I will doublecheck this evening

:11:48. > :11:49.UK? I will doublecheck this evening with him that he actually said that.

:11:49. > :11:51.with him that he actually said that. with him that he actually said that.

:11:51. > :11:54.with him that he actually said that. with him that he actually said that.

:11:54. > :11:55.But we are doing what we can to help But we are doing what we can to help

:11:55. > :11:56.But we are doing what we can to help But we are doing what we can to help

:11:56. > :11:56.people. We do rely on the UK people. We do rely on the UK

:11:57. > :11:58.people. We do rely on the UK Government to do its bit which

:11:58. > :11:59.Government to do its bit which Government to do its bit which

:11:59. > :12:00.Government to do its bit which clearly at the moment it is not

:12:00. > :12:00.clearly at the moment it is not clearly at the moment it is not

:12:00. > :12:03.clearly at the moment it is not doing. I wonder who is leading the

:12:03. > :12:04.doing. I wonder who is leading the doing. I wonder who is leading the

:12:04. > :12:06.party in Wales. 40,000 households in party in Wales. 40,000 households in

:12:06. > :12:06.party in Wales. 40,000 households in Wales will be affected by the

:12:06. > :12:09.Wales will be affected by the Wales will be affected by the

:12:09. > :12:10.bedroom tax introduced in April. It bedroom tax introduced in April. It

:12:10. > :12:11.bedroom tax introduced in April. It is a worsening situation for many

:12:11. > :12:12.is a worsening situation for many is a worsening situation for many

:12:12. > :12:15.who are already skipping meals in who are already skipping meals in

:12:15. > :12:16.who are already skipping meals in who are already skipping meals in

:12:16. > :12:17.order to make ends meet. A report order to make ends meet. A report

:12:17. > :12:18.order to make ends meet. A report recommends that your Government does

:12:18. > :12:23.recommends that your Government does recommends that your Government does

:12:23. > :12:24.much more to mitigate the effect. much more to mitigate the effect.

:12:24. > :12:25.much more to mitigate the effect. One of the recommendations is that

:12:25. > :12:30.One of the recommendations is that local Government use their

:12:30. > :12:33.local Government use their discretionary housing payment to

:12:33. > :12:34.discretionary housing payment to discretionary housing payment to

:12:34. > :12:35.prevent problems. Also ensure that prevent problems. Also ensure that

:12:35. > :12:37.prevent problems. Also ensure that services are properly funded to deal

:12:37. > :12:38.services are properly funded to deal services are properly funded to deal

:12:38. > :12:41.with the impact of complicated when with the impact of complicated when

:12:41. > :12:42.with the impact of complicated when fits. Will you commit to

:12:42. > :12:47.fits. Will you commit to implementing the recommendations in

:12:47. > :12:48.implementing the recommendations in implementing the recommendations in

:12:48. > :12:49.that report? If they are affordable that report? If they are affordable

:12:49. > :12:51.that report? If they are affordable that report? If they are affordable

:12:51. > :12:52.and will help the people. What we and will help the people. What we

:12:52. > :12:54.and will help the people. What we and will help the people. What we

:12:54. > :12:55.cannot do is make up the funding cannot do is make up the funding

:12:55. > :12:55.cannot do is make up the funding cannot do is make up the funding

:12:55. > :12:58.shortfall that is put in place by shortfall that is put in place by

:12:58. > :13:01.shortfall that is put in place by shortfall that is put in place by

:13:01. > :13:01.the UK Government. We know that when the UK Government. We know that when

:13:01. > :13:03.the UK Government. We know that when the UK Government. We know that when

:13:03. > :13:04.it comes to reform there are many it comes to reform there are many

:13:04. > :13:06.it comes to reform there are many it comes to reform there are many

:13:06. > :13:07.people in Wales who will lose out as people in Wales who will lose out as

:13:07. > :13:08.people in Wales who will lose out as people in Wales who will lose out as

:13:08. > :13:09.a result of the bedroom tax. Many of a result of the bedroom tax. Many of

:13:09. > :13:12.a result of the bedroom tax. Many of the measures that the UK Government

:13:12. > :13:14.the measures that the UK Government the measures that the UK Government

:13:14. > :13:15.the measures that the UK Government are putting in place. I intend to

:13:15. > :13:16.are putting in place. I intend to are putting in place. I intend to

:13:16. > :13:22.make that point strongly with the make that point strongly with the

:13:22. > :13:23.joint ministerial Council tomorrow. joint ministerial Council tomorrow.

:13:23. > :13:23.Question three. Will the Question three. Will the

:13:23. > :13:33.Question three. Will the first-minister provide an update on

:13:33. > :14:05.

:14:05. > :14:07.We can educate children and car We can educate children and car

:14:07. > :14:08.We can educate children and car drivers with the dangers associated

:14:08. > :14:09.drivers with the dangers associated drivers with the dangers associated

:14:09. > :14:13.with the road, which includes a with the road, which includes a

:14:13. > :14:15.with the road, which includes a provision of grant funding, six by

:14:15. > :14:15.provision of grant funding, six by provision of grant funding, six by

:14:15. > :14:18.provision of grant funding, six by and �5 million, which can be used

:14:18. > :14:26.and �5 million, which can be used for national standards cycle

:14:26. > :14:36.for national standards cycle for national standards cycle

:14:36. > :14:36.

:14:36. > :15:42.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 65 seconds

:15:42. > :15:45.TRANSLATION: In turning to speed in TRANSLATION: In turning to speed in

:15:45. > :15:47.travelling along the roads in Wales, travelling along the roads in Wales,

:15:47. > :15:47.I have been trying to discover I have been trying to discover

:15:47. > :15:48.I have been trying to discover through the Freedom of Information

:15:48. > :15:49.through the Freedom of Information through the Freedom of Information

:15:49. > :15:51.requests how people who break the requests how people who break the

:15:51. > :15:53.requests how people who break the speed limit are treated, and there

:15:53. > :15:54.speed limit are treated, and there is inconsistency throughout the

:15:54. > :15:54.is inconsistency throughout the is inconsistency throughout the

:15:55. > :15:58.Wales regarding the levels of speed Wales regarding the levels of speed

:15:58. > :15:59.Wales regarding the levels of speed Wales regarding the levels of speed

:15:59. > :16:03.you have to attain before a cases you have to attain before a cases

:16:03. > :16:03.you have to attain before a cases brought against you, and there is

:16:03. > :16:03.brought against you, and there is brought against you, and there is

:16:03. > :16:07.no assessment or speed awareness no assessment or speed awareness

:16:07. > :16:07.no assessment or speed awareness no assessment or speed awareness

:16:07. > :16:08.course to see what impact they have course to see what impact they have

:16:08. > :16:09.course to see what impact they have on driving habits. Would you look

:16:09. > :16:10.on driving habits. Would you look on driving habits. Would you look

:16:10. > :16:19.at this to ensure we have at this to ensure we have

:16:19. > :16:21.TRANSLATION: It is true to say that TRANSLATION: It is true to say that

:16:21. > :16:22.TRANSLATION: It is true to say that my just streets boards deal with

:16:22. > :16:27.my just streets boards deal with my just streets boards deal with

:16:27. > :16:31.cases in differing ways. You have cases in differing ways. You have

:16:31. > :16:32.some flexibility but we know that a some flexibility but we know that a

:16:32. > :16:34.road Wales the approach is road Wales the approach is

:16:34. > :16:38.road Wales the approach is different in dealing with crimes

:16:38. > :16:40.different in dealing with crimes different in dealing with crimes

:16:40. > :16:42.undertaken by drivers now. As a undertaken by drivers now. As a

:16:42. > :16:45.undertaken by drivers now. As a government, we find 20 mph were

:16:45. > :16:48.government, we find 20 mph were schemes throughout Wales, through

:16:48. > :16:49.schemes throughout Wales, through schemes throughout Wales, through

:16:49. > :16:51.grants such as the Regional Transport grant.

:16:51. > :16:56.Transport grant. Transport grant.

:16:56. > :16:57.The volume and speed of traffic The volume and speed of traffic

:16:57. > :16:58.The volume and speed of traffic been raised by many constituents

:16:58. > :16:58.been raised by many constituents been raised by many constituents

:16:58. > :16:59.been raised by many constituents who are concerned that the lack of

:16:59. > :17:02.who are concerned that the lack of who are concerned that the lack of

:17:02. > :17:03.an eastern road between Cardiff Bay an eastern road between Cardiff Bay

:17:03. > :17:04.an eastern road between Cardiff Bay and the motorway is forcing traffic

:17:04. > :17:06.and the motorway is forcing traffic and the motorway is forcing traffic

:17:06. > :17:07.to a residential streets posing a to a residential streets posing a

:17:07. > :17:08.to a residential streets posing a danger to pedestrians and cyclists.

:17:08. > :17:09.danger to pedestrians and cyclists. danger to pedestrians and cyclists.

:17:09. > :17:13.danger to pedestrians and cyclists. Would you agree it is time that we

:17:13. > :17:16.Would you agree it is time that we Would you agree it is time that we

:17:16. > :17:18.looked at that and completed the looked at that and completed the

:17:18. > :17:21.looked at that and completed the project? The projects can be looked

:17:21. > :17:26.project? The projects can be looked project? The projects can be looked

:17:26. > :17:27.project? The projects can be looked at in terms of finances. The link

:17:27. > :17:29.at in terms of finances. The link at in terms of finances. The link

:17:29. > :17:33.towards the motorway is a local towards the motorway is a local

:17:33. > :17:42.towards the motorway is a local authority road, so there are issues

:17:42. > :17:43.authority road, so there are issues authority road, so there are issues

:17:43. > :17:45.there. The council intends to there. The council intends to

:17:45. > :17:48.there. The council intends to introduce a range of measures to

:17:48. > :17:48.introduce a range of measures to introduce a range of measures to

:17:48. > :17:49.improve road safety in my improve road safety in my

:17:49. > :17:51.constituency, including lowering constituency, including lowering

:17:52. > :17:53.constituency, including lowering the speed limit outside the primary

:17:53. > :17:55.the speed limit outside the primary the speed limit outside the primary

:17:55. > :18:05.school. Do you agree that measures school. Do you agree that measures

:18:05. > :18:05.

:18:05. > :18:05.school. Do you agree that measures school. Do you agree that measures

:18:05. > :18:06.and in light of the disappointing and in light of the disappointing

:18:06. > :18:07.and in light of the disappointing and in light of the disappointing

:18:07. > :18:08.news today about health in the UK, news today about health in the UK,

:18:08. > :18:10.news today about health in the UK, in Cabinet -- comparison to other

:18:10. > :18:11.in Cabinet -- comparison to other in Cabinet -- comparison to other

:18:11. > :18:15.nations, do you agree this will nations, do you agree this will

:18:15. > :18:16.nations, do you agree this will nations, do you agree this will

:18:16. > :18:18.also help us tackle obesity? Yes, I also help us tackle obesity? Yes, I

:18:18. > :18:19.also help us tackle obesity? Yes, I do. One of the obstacles people

:18:19. > :18:20.do. One of the obstacles people do. One of the obstacles people

:18:20. > :18:29.sometimes have against walking and sometimes have against walking and

:18:29. > :18:39.sometimes have against walking and sometimes have against walking and

:18:39. > :18:39.

:18:39. > :18:44.TRANSLATION: What discussions has TRANSLATION: What discussions has

:18:44. > :18:44.TRANSLATION: What discussions has the Welsh government had with the

:18:45. > :18:46.the Welsh government had with the United Kingdom government,

:18:46. > :18:51.United Kingdom government, United Kingdom government,

:18:51. > :18:52.regarding plans to privatise the regarding plans to privatise the

:18:52. > :18:57.regarding plans to privatise the provision service? It has been

:18:57. > :19:00.provision service? It has been discussed with the prisons minister,

:19:00. > :19:01.discussed with the prisons minister, discussed with the prisons minister,

:19:01. > :19:02.and responded to the consultation and responded to the consultation

:19:02. > :19:05.and responded to the consultation to highlight Wales as a unique

:19:05. > :19:09.to highlight Wales as a unique to highlight Wales as a unique

:19:09. > :19:09.landscape, which needs to be taken landscape, which needs to be taken

:19:10. > :19:10.landscape, which needs to be taken landscape, which needs to be taken

:19:10. > :19:11.into account. I am pleased to hear into account. I am pleased to hear

:19:11. > :19:14.into account. I am pleased to hear the Welsh government is not in

:19:14. > :19:15.the Welsh government is not in the Welsh government is not in

:19:15. > :19:17.favour of privatisation, but the favour of privatisation, but the

:19:17. > :19:19.favour of privatisation, but the privatisation is taking place under

:19:19. > :19:20.privatisation is taking place under privatisation is taking place under

:19:20. > :19:21.legislation passed by the Labour legislation passed by the Labour

:19:21. > :19:23.legislation passed by the Labour legislation passed by the Labour

:19:23. > :19:27.Party when they were in power in Party when they were in power in

:19:27. > :19:28.Westminster, which undermines your Westminster, which undermines your

:19:28. > :19:29.Westminster, which undermines your argument. The important point here

:19:29. > :19:31.argument. The important point here argument. The important point here

:19:31. > :19:33.argument. The important point here is that Wales is treated as a unit

:19:33. > :19:33.is that Wales is treated as a unit is that Wales is treated as a unit

:19:33. > :19:36.is that Wales is treated as a unit to try to protect the integrity of

:19:36. > :19:38.to try to protect the integrity of to try to protect the integrity of

:19:38. > :19:40.the service in the light of the service in the light of

:19:40. > :19:41.the service in the light of privatising the 80% of the service,

:19:41. > :19:44.privatising the 80% of the service, privatising the 80% of the service,

:19:44. > :19:46.which is linked to many other which is linked to many other

:19:46. > :19:47.which is linked to many other services offered and funded by the

:19:47. > :19:47.services offered and funded by the services offered and funded by the

:19:47. > :19:48.government in Wales. What pressure government in Wales. What pressure

:19:48. > :19:49.government in Wales. What pressure government in Wales. What pressure

:19:49. > :19:50.can you bring to bear on the can you bring to bear on the

:19:51. > :19:52.Westminster government to ensure Westminster government to ensure

:19:52. > :19:55.Westminster government to ensure that the integrity of this service

:19:55. > :19:56.that the integrity of this service that the integrity of this service

:19:56. > :19:58.that the integrity of this service is retained? I would not be in

:19:58. > :19:59.is retained? I would not be in is retained? I would not be in

:19:59. > :20:01.favour of any structure that would favour of any structure that would

:20:01. > :20:02.favour of any structure that would confuse England and Wales, which is

:20:02. > :20:03.confuse England and Wales, which is confuse England and Wales, which is

:20:03. > :20:04.something we have said. Any something we have said. Any

:20:04. > :20:06.something we have said. Any structure that arises from these

:20:06. > :20:10.structure that arises from these changes should identify and

:20:10. > :20:10.changes should identify and changes should identify and

:20:11. > :20:14.recognise the fact that there recognise the fact that there

:20:14. > :20:15.recognise the fact that there should be no attempt to create

:20:16. > :20:18.should be no attempt to create should be no attempt to create

:20:18. > :20:19.cross-border bodies, but it is cross-border bodies, but it is

:20:19. > :20:24.cross-border bodies, but it is important that they represent Wales

:20:24. > :20:25.important that they represent Wales important that they represent Wales

:20:25. > :20:27.himself. As well as privatisation, himself. As well as privatisation,

:20:27. > :20:28.the Westminster government is the Westminster government is

:20:28. > :20:30.the Westminster government is planning to reduce the areas that

:20:30. > :20:32.planning to reduce the areas that planning to reduce the areas that

:20:32. > :20:34.will contract for packages of will contract for packages of

:20:34. > :20:37.will contract for packages of will contract for packages of

:20:37. > :20:38.services from 35-16. Has he had any services from 35-16. Has he had any

:20:38. > :20:48.services from 35-16. Has he had any reassurances that the boundaries of

:20:48. > :20:51.

:20:51. > :20:57.reassurances that the boundaries of reassurances that the boundaries of

:20:57. > :21:02.these packages areas... Also, the these packages areas... Also, the

:21:02. > :21:04.these packages areas... Also, the other devolved bodies? He said he

:21:04. > :21:05.other devolved bodies? He said he other devolved bodies? He said he

:21:05. > :21:06.other devolved bodies? He said he wished to see Wales as a discrete

:21:06. > :21:07.wished to see Wales as a discrete wished to see Wales as a discrete

:21:07. > :21:08.area, and he also indicated we area, and he also indicated we

:21:08. > :21:12.area, and he also indicated we would not be supportive of the

:21:12. > :21:13.would not be supportive of the would not be supportive of the

:21:13. > :21:14.payment by this policy. payment by this policy.

:21:14. > :21:17.payment by this policy. consultation was launched on this

:21:17. > :21:18.consultation was launched on this consultation was launched on this

:21:18. > :21:20.in January, with Wales probation in January, with Wales probation

:21:20. > :21:21.in January, with Wales probation in January, with Wales probation

:21:21. > :21:22.service having been one of the two service having been one of the two

:21:22. > :21:24.service having been one of the two pilots to help inform the

:21:24. > :21:25.pilots to help inform the development of the policy.

:21:25. > :21:26.development of the policy. development of the policy.

:21:26. > :21:27.According to the Secretary of State, According to the Secretary of State,

:21:27. > :21:28.According to the Secretary of State, According to the Secretary of State,

:21:28. > :21:29.he said he was impressed with what he said he was impressed with what

:21:29. > :21:31.he said he was impressed with what he said he was impressed with what

:21:31. > :21:33.had been done in Wales forging a had been done in Wales forging a

:21:33. > :21:34.had been done in Wales forging a new approach, but that the public

:21:34. > :21:35.new approach, but that the public sector probation service will

:21:35. > :21:36.sector probation service will sector probation service will

:21:36. > :21:37.sector probation service will continue to look at the risk of

:21:37. > :21:38.continue to look at the risk of continue to look at the risk of

:21:38. > :21:41.harmful offenders in the community. harmful offenders in the community.

:21:41. > :21:43.harmful offenders in the community. harmful offenders in the community.

:21:43. > :21:44.How do you respond to the statement, How do you respond to the statement,

:21:44. > :21:45.How do you respond to the statement, we believe the introduction of

:21:45. > :21:46.we believe the introduction of we believe the introduction of

:21:46. > :21:49.payment by results offers exciting payment by results offers exciting

:21:49. > :21:53.opportunities for engaging with opportunities for engaging with

:21:53. > :21:57.opportunities for engaging with partners in the development of new

:21:57. > :21:57.partners in the development of new partners in the development of new

:21:57. > :21:59.ways of rehabilitating offenders? ways of rehabilitating offenders?

:21:59. > :22:00.ways of rehabilitating offenders? ways of rehabilitating offenders?

:22:01. > :22:10.do not think it works if you pay do not think it works if you pay

:22:11. > :22:11.

:22:11. > :23:53.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 65 seconds

:23:53. > :23:55.do not think it works if you pay You will be aware that there are

:23:55. > :23:56.You will be aware that there are You will be aware that there are

:23:56. > :23:58.You will be aware that there are lessons to be learned from the mid-

:23:58. > :24:01.lessons to be learned from the mid- Staffordshire report. Does it

:24:01. > :24:02.Staffordshire report. Does it Staffordshire report. Does it

:24:02. > :24:03.concern new that the public concern new that the public

:24:03. > :24:07.accounts committee took evidence accounts committee took evidence

:24:07. > :24:10.accounts committee took evidence into its maternity services, and

:24:10. > :24:11.into its maternity services, and received confirmation there are

:24:11. > :24:11.received confirmation there are received confirmation there are

:24:11. > :24:13.maternity wards in Wales where maternity wards in Wales where

:24:13. > :24:14.maternity wards in Wales where maternity wards in Wales where

:24:14. > :24:16.staff who are suspended or on long staff who are suspended or on long

:24:16. > :24:17.staff who are suspended or on long service -- long-term sick leave are

:24:17. > :24:18.service -- long-term sick leave are service -- long-term sick leave are

:24:19. > :24:20.included in rotas for the staffing included in rotas for the staffing

:24:20. > :24:21.included in rotas for the staffing arrangements in the wards. Does

:24:21. > :24:22.arrangements in the wards. Does arrangements in the wards. Does

:24:22. > :24:26.that concern you? And what action that concern you? And what action

:24:26. > :24:27.that concern you? And what action will you take? There is a

:24:27. > :24:28.will you take? There is a will you take? There is a

:24:28. > :24:29.responsibility on the part of the responsibility on the part of the

:24:30. > :24:30.responsibility on the part of the local health boards to ensure that

:24:30. > :24:35.local health boards to ensure that local health boards to ensure that

:24:35. > :24:36.any unit is properly staffed. any unit is properly staffed.

:24:36. > :24:38.TRANSLATION: One of the TRANSLATION: One of the

:24:38. > :24:41.recommendations in the France's recommendations in the France's

:24:41. > :24:42.recommendations in the France's report was to introduce legislation

:24:42. > :24:43.report was to introduce legislation report was to introduce legislation

:24:43. > :24:44.to place enforcement on medical to place enforcement on medical

:24:44. > :24:45.to place enforcement on medical to place enforcement on medical

:24:45. > :24:46.staff to tell the truth about the staff to tell the truth about the

:24:46. > :24:49.staff to tell the truth about the cause of death. Plaid Cymru also

:24:49. > :24:50.cause of death. Plaid Cymru also cause of death. Plaid Cymru also

:24:50. > :24:51.believe that legislation should be believe that legislation should be

:24:51. > :24:55.believe that legislation should be considered to make it illegal to

:24:55. > :24:58.considered to make it illegal to change medical records following

:24:58. > :25:00.change medical records following change medical records following

:25:00. > :25:01.certain cases. Do you give certain cases. Do you give

:25:01. > :25:04.certain cases. Do you give consideration to new legislation in

:25:04. > :25:07.consideration to new legislation in consideration to new legislation in

:25:07. > :25:08.order to protect patients? Yes, but order to protect patients? Yes, but

:25:08. > :25:11.order to protect patients? Yes, but it is not clear where the

:25:11. > :25:14.it is not clear where the it is not clear where the

:25:14. > :25:15.responsibility lies. In saying that, responsibility lies. In saying that,

:25:15. > :25:16.responsibility lies. In saying that, responsibility lies. In saying that,

:25:16. > :25:19.we are considering in what way we we are considering in what way we

:25:19. > :25:20.we are considering in what way we can ensure medical records are not

:25:20. > :25:22.can ensure medical records are not can ensure medical records are not

:25:22. > :25:23.changed in order to ensure that changed in order to ensure that

:25:23. > :25:26.changed in order to ensure that everyone knows what has happened if

:25:26. > :25:27.everyone knows what has happened if everyone knows what has happened if

:25:27. > :25:28.someone unfortunately dies. We are someone unfortunately dies. We are

:25:28. > :25:29.someone unfortunately dies. We are looking at whether we have the

:25:29. > :25:32.looking at whether we have the looking at whether we have the

:25:32. > :25:33.power were to ensure that that power were to ensure that that

:25:33. > :25:35.power were to ensure that that power were to ensure that that

:25:35. > :25:37.happen us. -- whether we have the happen us. -- whether we have the

:25:37. > :25:38.happen us. -- whether we have the power. A report showed the

:25:38. > :25:40.power. A report showed the disregard of mortality statistics.

:25:40. > :25:41.disregard of mortality statistics. disregard of mortality statistics.

:25:41. > :25:42.disregard of mortality statistics. In answer to my question last week,

:25:42. > :25:43.In answer to my question last week, In answer to my question last week,

:25:43. > :25:45.he said mortality statistics were he said mortality statistics were

:25:45. > :25:48.he said mortality statistics were not a good guide for hospital

:25:48. > :25:49.not a good guide for hospital performance. Yet local health

:25:49. > :25:52.performance. Yet local health performance. Yet local health

:25:52. > :25:53.boards are required by the boards are required by the

:25:53. > :25:55.boards are required by the government as an indicator for the

:25:55. > :25:55.government as an indicator for the government as an indicator for the

:25:55. > :26:02.annual Quality Framework to report annual Quality Framework to report

:26:02. > :26:03.annual Quality Framework to report on mortality statistics. Could you

:26:03. > :26:09.on mortality statistics. Could you on mortality statistics. Could you

:26:09. > :26:10.clarify the dew on statistics? -- clarify the dew on statistics? --

:26:10. > :26:11.clarify the dew on statistics? -- you're view. They are important but

:26:11. > :26:14.you're view. They are important but complications are equally as

:26:14. > :26:14.complications are equally as complications are equally as

:26:14. > :26:16.important. In order to assess the important. In order to assess the

:26:16. > :26:17.important. In order to assess the importance of any hospital or a

:26:17. > :26:18.importance of any hospital or a importance of any hospital or a

:26:18. > :26:21.unit, the complication rates are unit, the complication rates are

:26:21. > :26:23.unit, the complication rates are important because of the need to

:26:23. > :26:24.important because of the need to understand her treatment is

:26:24. > :26:26.understand her treatment is progressing when someone has

:26:26. > :26:27.progressing when someone has progressing when someone has

:26:27. > :26:28.received the treatment, whether it received the treatment, whether it

:26:28. > :26:29.received the treatment, whether it received the treatment, whether it

:26:29. > :26:35.is an operation or not. They are is an operation or not. They are

:26:35. > :26:36.is an operation or not. They are not contradictory things. Can he

:26:36. > :26:36.not contradictory things. Can he not contradictory things. Can he

:26:36. > :26:43.make a statement outlining the make a statement outlining the

:26:43. > :26:46.benefits of minerals, technical benefits of minerals, technical

:26:46. > :26:49.benefits of minerals, technical advice on Calle. It enables an

:26:49. > :26:50.advice on Calle. It enables an advice on Calle. It enables an

:26:50. > :26:51.advice on Calle. It enables an informed view to be taken on what

:26:51. > :26:53.informed view to be taken on what informed view to be taken on what

:26:53. > :26:55.impact it will be, including on impact it will be, including on

:26:55. > :26:57.impact it will be, including on local people and how their

:26:57. > :27:01.local people and how their local people and how their

:27:01. > :27:08.lifestyle will be affected or not. lifestyle will be affected or not.

:27:08. > :27:11.lifestyle will be affected or not. The Environment... A report has

:27:11. > :27:11.The Environment... A report has The Environment... A report has

:27:11. > :27:13.left people worried about open left people worried about open

:27:13. > :27:15.left people worried about open casting. There are local houses and

:27:15. > :27:17.casting. There are local houses and casting. There are local houses and

:27:17. > :27:18.casting. There are local houses and a school just 100 metres away. The

:27:18. > :27:20.a school just 100 metres away. The a school just 100 metres away. The

:27:20. > :27:21.inspectors' report is not being inspectors' report is not being

:27:21. > :27:23.inspectors' report is not being released. Would you agree that it

:27:23. > :27:25.released. Would you agree that it released. Would you agree that it

:27:25. > :27:26.is vital that the report be is vital that the report be

:27:26. > :27:27.is vital that the report be released? In view of your previous

:27:27. > :27:28.released? In view of your previous released? In view of your previous

:27:28. > :27:29.statement that the guidance on statement that the guidance on

:27:29. > :27:31.statement that the guidance on buffer zones is there to be

:27:31. > :27:33.buffer zones is there to be buffer zones is there to be

:27:33. > :27:35.followed, what steps will you take followed, what steps will you take

:27:35. > :27:36.followed, what steps will you take to ensure that it protects our

:27:36. > :27:40.to ensure that it protects our to ensure that it protects our

:27:40. > :27:42.communities from this type of communities from this type of

:27:42. > :27:43.communities from this type of development? It is there to protect

:27:43. > :27:44.development? It is there to protect development? It is there to protect

:27:44. > :27:46.communities, and it has done in communities, and it has done in

:27:46. > :27:52.communities, and it has done in communities, and it has done in

:27:52. > :27:56.years gone by. I cannot comment on years gone by. I cannot comment on

:27:56. > :28:00.years gone by. I cannot comment on specific details with that side. --

:28:00. > :28:02.specific details with that side. -- specific details with that side. --

:28:02. > :28:03.specific details with that side. -- site. When I asked about a similar

:28:03. > :28:04.site. When I asked about a similar site. When I asked about a similar

:28:04. > :28:06.site. When I asked about a similar event in 2010, he replied, it must

:28:06. > :28:07.event in 2010, he replied, it must event in 2010, he replied, it must

:28:07. > :28:08.event in 2010, he replied, it must be taken into account by a planning

:28:08. > :28:09.be taken into account by a planning be taken into account by a planning

:28:09. > :28:09.authority, and went on to state authority, and went on to state

:28:09. > :28:11.authority, and went on to state authority, and went on to state

:28:11. > :28:13.that the guidance was there to be that the guidance was there to be

:28:13. > :28:14.that the guidance was there to be observed. Will you re- iterate the

:28:14. > :28:17.observed. Will you re- iterate the observed. Will you re- iterate the

:28:17. > :28:19.commitment to a 500 metres Buffer commitment to a 500 metres Buffer

:28:19. > :28:22.commitment to a 500 metres Buffer commitment to a 500 metres Buffer

:28:22. > :28:22.Zone? That is in there.We have a Zone? That is in there.We have a

:28:22. > :28:24.complicated situation where complicated situation where

:28:24. > :28:26.planning officers are recommending planning officers are recommending

:28:26. > :28:28.planning officers are recommending the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal-

:28:28. > :28:29.the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal- the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal-

:28:29. > :28:37.the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal- mining a taste it is brought under

:28:37. > :28:38.mining a taste it is brought under mining a taste it is brought under

:28:38. > :28:39.control. This comes inside the 500 control. This comes inside the 500

:28:39. > :28:41.control. This comes inside the 500 metre buffer zone, stipulated in

:28:41. > :28:43.metre buffer zone, stipulated in metre buffer zone, stipulated in

:28:43. > :28:43.the report, and adopted by the the report, and adopted by the

:28:44. > :28:44.the report, and adopted by the the report, and adopted by the

:28:44. > :28:47.council as part of the LDP. Would council as part of the LDP. Would

:28:47. > :28:48.council as part of the LDP. Would you agree with me that this

:28:48. > :28:49.you agree with me that this you agree with me that this

:28:49. > :28:51.undermines the whole reason behind undermines the whole reason behind

:28:51. > :28:53.undermines the whole reason behind the Government's guidance, and can

:28:53. > :28:53.the Government's guidance, and can the Government's guidance, and can

:28:53. > :28:54.the Government's guidance, and can you make this law, so we do not

:28:54. > :28:56.you make this law, so we do not you make this law, so we do not

:28:56. > :28:57.make a laughing stock of the make a laughing stock of the

:28:57. > :28:58.make a laughing stock of the make a laughing stock of the

:28:58. > :28:59.guidance? It is a matter for local guidance? It is a matter for local

:28:59. > :29:00.planning authorities to determine planning authorities to determine

:29:00. > :29:04.planning authorities to determine planning authorities to determine

:29:04. > :29:08.what they do, but I know of no what they do, but I know of no

:29:08. > :29:10.what they do, but I know of no planning guidance that becomes law.

:29:10. > :29:11.planning guidance that becomes law. planning guidance that becomes law.

:29:11. > :29:12.planning guidance that becomes law. It is always guidance. It is up to

:29:12. > :29:22.It is always guidance. It is up to It is always guidance. It is up to

:29:22. > :29:38.

:29:38. > :29:40.the British geological Society's the British geological Society's

:29:40. > :29:42.the British geological Society's definition of a settlement? It would

:29:42. > :29:43.definition of a settlement? It would definition of a settlement? It would

:29:43. > :29:43.definition of a settlement? It would definition of a settlement? It would

:29:43. > :29:46.be right to say there is a 500 metre be right to say there is a 500 metre

:29:46. > :29:47.be right to say there is a 500 metre buffer zone without exception.

:29:47. > :29:48.buffer zone without exception. buffer zone without exception.

:29:48. > :29:51.buffer zone without exception. terms of the definition you ask for,

:29:51. > :29:52.terms of the definition you ask for, terms of the definition you ask for,

:29:52. > :30:02.terms of the definition you ask for, I will ensure you are written to

:30:02. > :30:34.

:30:34. > :30:35.I will ensure you are written to The time taken to get the scheme

:30:35. > :30:36.The time taken to get the scheme The time taken to get the scheme

:30:36. > :30:37.off the ground is unfortunate, and off the ground is unfortunate, and

:30:37. > :30:39.off the ground is unfortunate, and off the ground is unfortunate, and

:30:39. > :30:40.would it be impossible to put it in would it be impossible to put it in

:30:40. > :30:42.would it be impossible to put it in place earlier? Know, because the

:30:42. > :30:45.place earlier? Know, because the place earlier? Know, because the

:30:45. > :30:47.launch of the scheme is dependent launch of the scheme is dependent

:30:47. > :30:48.launch of the scheme is dependent on sufficient numbers off lenders

:30:48. > :30:49.on sufficient numbers off lenders on sufficient numbers off lenders

:30:49. > :30:50.on sufficient numbers off lenders and builders. We are now in a

:30:50. > :30:51.and builders. We are now in a and builders. We are now in a

:30:51. > :30:53.position where bad is the case. position where bad is the case.

:30:53. > :30:54.position where bad is the case. There are potential pitfalls with

:30:54. > :30:56.There are potential pitfalls with There are potential pitfalls with

:30:56. > :30:57.the scheme. What safeguards does the scheme. What safeguards does

:30:57. > :30:59.the scheme. What safeguards does the government have in place to

:30:59. > :31:03.the government have in place to the government have in place to

:31:03. > :31:04.ensure borrowers take -- who take ensure borrowers take -- who take

:31:04. > :31:08.ensure borrowers take -- who take advantage of the scheme do not

:31:08. > :31:09.advantage of the scheme do not advantage of the scheme do not

:31:09. > :31:10.advantage of the scheme do not suffer if house prices fall? We put

:31:10. > :31:12.suffer if house prices fall? We put suffer if house prices fall? We put

:31:12. > :31:15.in place a guarantee that reduces in place a guarantee that reduces

:31:15. > :31:19.the substantial deposit required the substantial deposit required

:31:19. > :31:20.the substantial deposit required for potential homebuyers. In terms

:31:20. > :31:21.for potential homebuyers. In terms for potential homebuyers. In terms

:31:21. > :31:22.for potential homebuyers. In terms of how house prices develop in the

:31:22. > :31:22.of how house prices develop in the of how house prices develop in the

:31:22. > :31:24.future, that is difficult to future, that is difficult to

:31:24. > :31:30.future, that is difficult to predict. We know that. A study

:31:30. > :31:32.predict. We know that. A study predict. We know that. A study

:31:32. > :31:33.suggests that house prices fell by suggests that house prices fell by

:31:33. > :31:34.suggests that house prices fell by 20%, but people would have been

:31:34. > :31:36.20%, but people would have been 20%, but people would have been

:31:36. > :31:37.20%, but people would have been amazed that I had said that. The

:31:37. > :31:38.amazed that I had said that. The amazed that I had said that. The

:31:38. > :31:45.scheme is so important because it scheme is so important because it

:31:45. > :31:48.TRANSLATION: In a recent letter, TRANSLATION: In a recent letter,

:31:48. > :31:52.the Minister for Housing the Minister for Housing

:31:52. > :31:54.the Minister for Housing regeneration and Heritage said that

:31:54. > :31:57.regeneration and Heritage said that regeneration and Heritage said that

:31:57. > :31:57.companies such as Barratt Homes and companies such as Barratt Homes and

:31:57. > :31:59.companies such as Barratt Homes and Wimpey Homes were contributing to

:31:59. > :32:00.Wimpey Homes were contributing to Wimpey Homes were contributing to

:32:00. > :32:01.schemes by Welsh government. But as schemes by Welsh government. But as

:32:01. > :32:05.schemes by Welsh government. But as these builders and companies do not

:32:05. > :32:07.these builders and companies do not these builders and companies do not

:32:07. > :32:07.have sites and place, can the have sites and place, can the

:32:07. > :32:09.have sites and place, can the Minister confirm that local and

:32:09. > :32:10.Minister confirm that local and Minister confirm that local and

:32:10. > :32:14.regional companies will be part of regional companies will be part of

:32:14. > :32:17.regional companies will be part of regional companies will be part of

:32:17. > :32:18.the new scheme? At present we are the new scheme? At present we are

:32:18. > :32:19.the new scheme? At present we are ensuring there are an adequate

:32:19. > :32:22.ensuring there are an adequate ensuring there are an adequate

:32:22. > :32:23.number of companies in the scheme, number of companies in the scheme,

:32:23. > :32:28.number of companies in the scheme, and then we can see who's

:32:28. > :32:30.participating. participating.

:32:30. > :32:31.participating. What are the Welsh Government's

:32:31. > :32:32.What are the Welsh Government's plans for safeguarded by

:32:32. > :32:36.plans for safeguarded by plans for safeguarded by

:32:36. > :32:37.safeguarding key it in North Wales? safeguarding key it in North Wales?

:32:37. > :32:38.safeguarding key it in North Wales? safeguarding key it in North Wales?

:32:38. > :32:40.We ensure that the people in North We ensure that the people in North

:32:40. > :32:42.We ensure that the people in North Wales will have access to stable

:32:42. > :32:43.Wales will have access to stable Wales will have access to stable

:32:43. > :32:45.neonatal services. Is it acceptable neonatal services. Is it acceptable

:32:45. > :32:47.neonatal services. Is it acceptable for South Wales took maintains

:32:47. > :32:47.for South Wales took maintains for South Wales took maintains

:32:47. > :32:50.three neonatal centres, while North three neonatal centres, while North

:32:50. > :32:51.three neonatal centres, while North three neonatal centres, while North

:32:51. > :32:53.Wales have none? One of them does Wales have none? One of them does

:32:53. > :32:54.Wales have none? One of them does not even meet the standards. What

:32:54. > :32:55.not even meet the standards. What not even meet the standards. What

:32:55. > :32:56.assurances will you give to women assurances will you give to women

:32:56. > :32:56.assurances will you give to women assurances will you give to women

:32:56. > :32:57.in North Wales who will soon be in North Wales who will soon be

:32:57. > :32:59.in North Wales who will soon be forced to travel across the border

:32:59. > :33:00.forced to travel across the border forced to travel across the border

:33:00. > :33:01.forced to travel across the border to be treated under a health system

:33:01. > :33:02.to be treated under a health system to be treated under a health system

:33:02. > :33:06.that your own government has that your own government has

:33:06. > :33:10.that your own government has criticised so heavily. No decisions

:33:10. > :33:12.criticised so heavily. No decisions criticised so heavily. No decisions

:33:12. > :33:13.criticised so heavily. No decisions have been to taken -- have been

:33:13. > :33:23.have been to taken -- have been have been to taken -- have been

:33:23. > :33:37.

:33:37. > :33:38.taken regards to Betsy card while Certain issues have been referred

:33:38. > :33:39.Certain issues have been referred Certain issues have been referred

:33:39. > :33:41.Certain issues have been referred to the Minister for Health, and the

:33:41. > :33:42.to the Minister for Health, and the to the Minister for Health, and the

:33:42. > :33:44.reason for that is the distance reason for that is the distance

:33:44. > :33:51.reason for that is the distance people have to travel to axis

:33:51. > :34:01.people have to travel to axis people have to travel to axis

:34:01. > :34:11.

:34:11. > :34:15.The Minister himself has The Minister himself has

:34:15. > :34:16.constituency within the area. He constituency within the area. He

:34:16. > :34:19.constituency within the area. He will consider this in the coming

:34:19. > :34:22.will consider this in the coming will consider this in the coming

:34:22. > :34:22.days. The children's committee will days. The children's committee will

:34:23. > :34:25.days. The children's committee will take evidence from the neonatal

:34:25. > :34:27.take evidence from the neonatal take evidence from the neonatal

:34:27. > :34:28.network on Thursday and that network on Thursday and that

:34:28. > :34:30.network on Thursday and that demonstrates that there is an

:34:30. > :34:32.demonstrates that there is an demonstrates that there is an

:34:32. > :34:33.absence of evidence in terms of absence of evidence in terms of

:34:33. > :34:34.absence of evidence in terms of intensive neonatal care in North

:34:34. > :34:35.intensive neonatal care in North intensive neonatal care in North

:34:35. > :34:35.intensive neonatal care in North Wales as compared to south Wales and

:34:35. > :34:38.Wales as compared to south Wales and Wales as compared to south Wales and

:34:38. > :34:39.they also say that they are they also say that they are

:34:39. > :34:42.they also say that they are uncertain as to whether the

:34:42. > :34:43.uncertain as to whether the uncertain as to whether the

:34:43. > :34:46.arrangements suggested in terms of arrangements suggested in terms of

:34:46. > :34:49.arrangements suggested in terms of care, once the service has

:34:49. > :34:50.care, once the service has care, once the service has

:34:50. > :34:51.transferred will be robust enough. transferred will be robust enough.

:34:51. > :34:52.transferred will be robust enough. transferred will be robust enough.

:34:52. > :34:53.In light of that, and also the In light of that, and also the

:34:53. > :34:56.In light of that, and also the comments made, will you ask whether

:34:56. > :34:56.comments made, will you ask whether comments made, will you ask whether

:34:56. > :35:00.comments made, will you ask whether you will consider, in terms of your

:35:00. > :35:01.you will consider, in terms of your you will consider, in terms of your

:35:01. > :35:02.powers as ministers, this bid to powers as ministers, this bid to

:35:02. > :35:06.powers as ministers, this bid to transfer that service to Arrow

:35:06. > :35:08.transfer that service to Arrow Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration

:35:08. > :35:09.Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration

:35:09. > :35:12.Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration will be given to the request but the

:35:12. > :35:12.will be given to the request but the will be given to the request but the

:35:12. > :35:15.decision will be taken ultimately decision will be taken ultimately

:35:15. > :35:17.decision will be taken ultimately decision will be taken ultimately

:35:17. > :35:19.and it will be pertaining to whether and it will be pertaining to whether

:35:19. > :35:19.and it will be pertaining to whether and it will be pertaining to whether

:35:19. > :35:20.all the plans will be referred to all the plans will be referred to

:35:20. > :35:24.all the plans will be referred to ministers in the next few weeks.

:35:24. > :35:26.ministers in the next few weeks. Question nine. Will the

:35:26. > :35:26.Question nine. Will the Question nine. Will the

:35:26. > :35:28.first-minister make a statement on first-minister make a statement on

:35:28. > :35:30.first-minister make a statement on the proposed Welsh honours system?

:35:30. > :35:31.the proposed Welsh honours system? the proposed Welsh honours system?

:35:31. > :35:32.the proposed Welsh honours system? Yes, I welcome the debate we had on

:35:32. > :35:32.Yes, I welcome the debate we had on Yes, I welcome the debate we had on

:35:32. > :35:35.Yes, I welcome the debate we had on this issue last week and I have

:35:35. > :35:36.this issue last week and I have this issue last week and I have

:35:36. > :35:37.asked officials to work on the asked officials to work on the

:35:37. > :35:42.asked officials to work on the detail and I will keep members

:35:42. > :35:42.detail and I will keep members detail and I will keep members

:35:42. > :35:44.informed. Thank you. You have informed. Thank you. You have

:35:44. > :35:45.informed. Thank you. You have informed. Thank you. You have

:35:45. > :35:46.answered the question I was going to answered the question I was going to

:35:46. > :35:47.answered the question I was going to put, which is how detailed the

:35:47. > :35:50.put, which is how detailed the put, which is how detailed the

:35:50. > :35:51.proposals that you announced last proposals that you announced last

:35:51. > :35:51.proposals that you announced last proposals that you announced last

:35:51. > :35:53.week? You have indicated that a lot week? You have indicated that a lot

:35:53. > :35:54.week? You have indicated that a lot of the proposals are still being

:35:54. > :35:55.of the proposals are still being of the proposals are still being

:35:55. > :35:57.of the proposals are still being worked out. Will it be the case,

:35:57. > :35:58.worked out. Will it be the case, worked out. Will it be the case,

:35:58. > :35:59.though, that the awards will be though, that the awards will be

:35:59. > :36:01.though, that the awards will be presented by a third-party separate

:36:01. > :36:02.presented by a third-party separate presented by a third-party separate

:36:02. > :36:04.to yourself as First Minister or to yourself as First Minister or

:36:04. > :36:04.to yourself as First Minister or will it be very much Government

:36:04. > :36:05.will it be very much Government will it be very much Government

:36:05. > :36:07.awards awarded to people across the awards awarded to people across the

:36:07. > :36:09.awards awarded to people across the awards awarded to people across the

:36:09. > :36:11.whole of Wales? No, what I want to whole of Wales? No, what I want to

:36:11. > :36:14.whole of Wales? No, what I want to whole of Wales? No, what I want to

:36:15. > :36:15.do is ensure that the process of do is ensure that the process of

:36:15. > :36:17.do is ensure that the process of identifying who should be eligible

:36:17. > :36:17.identifying who should be eligible identifying who should be eligible

:36:18. > :36:19.identifying who should be eligible for the awards is as wide as

:36:19. > :36:20.for the awards is as wide as for the awards is as wide as

:36:20. > :36:21.possible and that does take is possible and that does take is

:36:21. > :36:23.possible and that does take is beyond Government. One option might

:36:23. > :36:25.beyond Government. One option might beyond Government. One option might

:36:25. > :36:27.beyond Government. One option might be, for example, the use of an

:36:27. > :36:28.be, for example, the use of an be, for example, the use of an

:36:28. > :36:28.independent board to assess the independent board to assess the

:36:28. > :36:29.independent board to assess the independent board to assess the

:36:29. > :36:30.awards, in the same way that is done awards, in the same way that is done

:36:30. > :36:34.awards, in the same way that is done with the honours system in

:36:34. > :36:34.with the honours system in with the honours system in

:36:35. > :36:38.with the honours system in Whitehall. I, too, was going to ask

:36:38. > :36:38.Whitehall. I, too, was going to ask Whitehall. I, too, was going to ask

:36:38. > :36:40.how the details are progressing but how the details are progressing but

:36:40. > :36:41.how the details are progressing but how the details are progressing but

:36:41. > :36:43.you have answered that. Do you agree you have answered that. Do you agree

:36:43. > :36:44.you have answered that. Do you agree you have answered that. Do you agree

:36:44. > :36:45.there is no need to mixed churches there is no need to mixed churches

:36:45. > :36:46.there is no need to mixed churches or monarchies with any Welsh honours

:36:46. > :36:46.or monarchies with any Welsh honours or monarchies with any Welsh honours

:36:46. > :36:47.or monarchies with any Welsh honours system and instead it should be a

:36:47. > :36:50.system and instead it should be a system and instead it should be a

:36:50. > :36:51.proud symbol of citizenship of proud symbol of citizenship of

:36:51. > :36:52.proud symbol of citizenship of Wales, rewarding members of our

:36:52. > :36:52.Wales, rewarding members of our Wales, rewarding members of our

:36:52. > :36:55.national community for their work national community for their work

:36:55. > :36:58.national community for their work and contribution to our society and

:36:58. > :36:59.and contribution to our society and and contribution to our society and

:36:59. > :37:00.not involving political patronage? I not involving political patronage? I

:37:00. > :37:01.not involving political patronage? I not involving political patronage? I

:37:01. > :37:03.seem to have the powers of telepathy seem to have the powers of telepathy

:37:03. > :37:05.seem to have the powers of telepathy this afternoon, which I hope I

:37:05. > :37:07.this afternoon, which I hope I this afternoon, which I hope I

:37:07. > :37:10.retain, of course. The point made retain, of course. The point made

:37:10. > :37:11.retain, of course. The point made is... There was some members who

:37:11. > :37:12.is... There was some members who is... There was some members who

:37:12. > :37:13.is... There was some members who took the view last week in the

:37:13. > :37:14.took the view last week in the took the view last week in the

:37:14. > :37:15.debate that there should be judging debate that there should be judging

:37:15. > :37:20.involvement, Chechen Wales involvement, Chechen Wales

:37:20. > :37:25.involvement, Chechen Wales involvement, to be precise. --

:37:25. > :37:28.involvement, to be precise. -- involvement, to be precise. --

:37:28. > :37:29.involvement, to be precise. -- Church in Wales. It will exist in a

:37:29. > :37:30.Church in Wales. It will exist in a Church in Wales. It will exist in a

:37:30. > :37:31.complimentary way to the existing complimentary way to the existing

:37:31. > :37:32.complimentary way to the existing complimentary way to the existing

:37:32. > :37:33.honours system and I see no role for honours system and I see no role for

:37:33. > :37:37.honours system and I see no role for any particular churches in the

:37:37. > :37:38.any particular churches in the awards themselves. Doubtless there

:37:38. > :37:39.awards themselves. Doubtless there awards themselves. Doubtless there

:37:39. > :37:44.will be organisations who will want will be organisations who will want

:37:44. > :37:45.will be organisations who will want to nominate people. First Minister,

:37:45. > :37:46.to nominate people. First Minister, to nominate people. First Minister,

:37:46. > :37:50.to nominate people. First Minister, will you make a statement on the

:37:50. > :37:51.will you make a statement on the will you make a statement on the

:37:51. > :37:52.Welsh Guzman provisions for tackling Welsh Guzman provisions for tackling

:37:52. > :37:59.Welsh Guzman provisions for tackling gambling addiction? There is no

:37:59. > :38:00.gambling addiction? There is no medical intervention, in general.

:38:00. > :38:02.medical intervention, in general. medical intervention, in general.

:38:02. > :38:03.Advice and support can be accessed Advice and support can be accessed

:38:03. > :38:05.Advice and support can be accessed Advice and support can be accessed

:38:05. > :38:07.by a GP or organisations such as by a GP or organisations such as

:38:07. > :38:11.gamblers anonymous. The UK gamblers anonymous. The UK

:38:11. > :38:12.Government scrapped the gambling Government scrapped the gambling

:38:12. > :38:13.Government scrapped the gambling addiction survey that was carried

:38:13. > :38:15.addiction survey that was carried addiction survey that was carried

:38:15. > :38:16.out annually. Scotland and England out annually. Scotland and England

:38:16. > :38:17.out annually. Scotland and England out annually. Scotland and England

:38:17. > :38:18.are using the Welsh health survey in are using the Welsh health survey in

:38:18. > :38:19.are using the Welsh health survey in order to try to seek this

:38:19. > :38:22.order to try to seek this order to try to seek this

:38:22. > :38:23.information. Wales has chosen not information. Wales has chosen not

:38:23. > :38:24.information. Wales has chosen not to. I was wondering happy Welsh

:38:24. > :38:25.to. I was wondering happy Welsh to. I was wondering happy Welsh

:38:25. > :38:26.Government will actually be looking Government will actually be looking

:38:26. > :38:28.Government will actually be looking at assessing the implications of

:38:28. > :38:31.at assessing the implications of gambling addiction particularly in

:38:31. > :38:31.gambling addiction particularly in gambling addiction particularly in

:38:31. > :38:35.gambling addiction particularly in the light of the growth of online

:38:35. > :38:38.the light of the growth of online the light of the growth of online

:38:38. > :38:42.gambling. Policy on gambling is not gambling. Policy on gambling is not

:38:42. > :38:42.gambling. Policy on gambling is not evolved, -- devolved. The gambling

:38:42. > :38:44.evolved, -- devolved. The gambling evolved, -- devolved. The gambling

:38:44. > :38:47.commission works closely with the UK commission works closely with the UK

:38:47. > :38:48.Government to ensure problem Government to ensure problem

:38:48. > :38:49.gambling is adequately understood gambling is adequately understood

:38:49. > :38:52.gambling is adequately understood and researched. And, of course, we

:38:52. > :38:53.and researched. And, of course, we and researched. And, of course, we

:38:53. > :38:54.and researched. And, of course, we are all aware of the impact gambling

:38:54. > :38:55.are all aware of the impact gambling are all aware of the impact gambling

:38:55. > :38:57.are all aware of the impact gambling will have on the individual or their

:38:57. > :38:58.will have on the individual or their will have on the individual or their

:38:58. > :39:01.families. The support is available families. The support is available

:39:01. > :39:06.families. The support is available through certain websites. And the

:39:06. > :39:08.through certain websites. And the citizens advice bureau. First

:39:09. > :39:09.citizens advice bureau. First citizens advice bureau. First

:39:09. > :39:11.Minister, a recent report by the Minister, a recent report by the

:39:11. > :39:13.Royal College of psychiatrists Royal College of psychiatrists

:39:13. > :39:19.Royal College of psychiatrists called for more awareness raising

:39:19. > :39:21.called for more awareness raising called for more awareness raising

:39:21. > :39:25.about problematic gambling of months about problematic gambling of months

:39:25. > :39:26.about problematic gambling of months -- amongst serious addicts. Given

:39:27. > :39:27.-- amongst serious addicts. Given -- amongst serious addicts. Given

:39:27. > :39:29.the problem of gambling in Public the problem of gambling in Public

:39:29. > :39:32.the problem of gambling in Public health, will be First Minister

:39:32. > :39:32.health, will be First Minister consider giving the health

:39:33. > :39:33.consider giving the health consider giving the health

:39:33. > :39:35.Department a greater role in Department a greater role in

:39:36. > :39:39.Department a greater role in tackling the danger of gambling?

:39:39. > :39:40.tackling the danger of gambling? tackling the danger of gambling?

:39:40. > :39:42.Gambling does not sit entirely in Gambling does not sit entirely in

:39:42. > :39:46.Gambling does not sit entirely in the field of health. There are

:39:46. > :39:48.the field of health. There are medical interventions that can

:39:48. > :39:49.medical interventions that can medical interventions that can

:39:49. > :39:51.help. Whether NHS treatment is help. Whether NHS treatment is

:39:51. > :39:52.help. Whether NHS treatment is available will depend on the

:39:52. > :39:54.available will depend on the available will depend on the

:39:54. > :39:55.severity of clinical need, that severity of clinical need, that

:39:55. > :39:56.person. Those with gambling person. Those with gambling

:39:56. > :39:56.person. Those with gambling addictions can seek the support and

:39:56. > :40:02.addictions can seek the support and addictions can seek the support and

:40:02. > :40:02.addictions can seek the support and advice of their GP and not all -

:40:02. > :40:04.advice of their GP and not all - advice of their GP and not all -

:40:04. > :40:06.mental health services may have a mental health services may have a

:40:06. > :40:07.mental health services may have a mental health services may have a

:40:07. > :40:09.bearing on this. In terms of dealing bearing on this. In terms of dealing

:40:09. > :40:12.bearing on this. In terms of dealing bearing on this. In terms of dealing

:40:12. > :40:13.with gambling, it is a health issue with gambling, it is a health issue

:40:13. > :40:16.with gambling, it is a health issue but there are organisations who can

:40:17. > :40:17.but there are organisations who can but there are organisations who can

:40:17. > :40:21.but there are organisations who can help out there. -- it is not a

:40:21. > :40:24.help out there. -- it is not a discreet health issue. Alcohol

:40:24. > :40:24.discreet health issue. Alcohol discreet health issue. Alcohol

:40:24. > :40:26.concern country and the Royal concern country and the Royal

:40:26. > :40:31.College of psychologists have College of psychologists have

:40:31. > :40:34.College of psychologists have launched a report which highlights

:40:34. > :40:44.launched a report which highlights launched a report which highlights

:40:44. > :40:46.

:40:46. > :40:49.issues. The worst Government look at issues. The worst Government look at

:40:49. > :40:50.issues. The worst Government look at that report? As I mentioned, policy

:40:50. > :40:51.that report? As I mentioned, policy that report? As I mentioned, policy

:40:51. > :40:52.that report? As I mentioned, policy on gambling is not devolved but I

:40:52. > :40:53.on gambling is not devolved but I on gambling is not devolved but I

:40:53. > :40:53.on gambling is not devolved but I can say that the Minister for health

:40:53. > :40:56.can say that the Minister for health can say that the Minister for health

:40:56. > :40:57.and social services has asked and social services has asked

:40:57. > :40:58.and social services has asked and social services has asked

:40:58. > :40:59.officials to contact DC MS to seek officials to contact DC MS to seek

:40:59. > :41:00.officials to contact DC MS to seek officials to contact DC MS to seek

:41:00. > :41:01.their views on the document and the their views on the document and the

:41:02. > :41:02.their views on the document and the need for further research on the

:41:02. > :41:08.need for further research on the need for further research on the

:41:08. > :41:09.health advice of gambling addiction. health advice of gambling addiction.

:41:09. > :41:09.health advice of gambling addiction. We will leave first Minister's

:41:09. > :41:10.We will leave first Minister's We will leave first Minister's

:41:10. > :41:11.We will leave first Minister's Questions and is there. You can see

:41:11. > :41:19.Questions and is there. You can see Questions and is there. You can see

:41:19. > :41:20.more coverage on the assembly more coverage on the assembly

:41:20. > :41:21.more coverage on the assembly more coverage on the assembly

:41:21. > :41:22.online. Let's pick up on some of online. Let's pick up on some of

:41:22. > :41:24.online. Let's pick up on some of that with our Welsh affairs editor,

:41:24. > :41:26.that with our Welsh affairs editor, that with our Welsh affairs editor,

:41:26. > :41:28.who has been watching. A fairly who has been watching. A fairly

:41:28. > :41:29.who has been watching. A fairly thoughtful debate there. What did

:41:29. > :41:30.thoughtful debate there. What did thoughtful debate there. What did

:41:30. > :41:31.thoughtful debate there. What did you pick up on? I thought, in terms

:41:32. > :41:35.you pick up on? I thought, in terms you pick up on? I thought, in terms

:41:35. > :41:36.of leaders questions, the one who of leaders questions, the one who

:41:36. > :41:37.of leaders questions, the one who of leaders questions, the one who

:41:37. > :41:40.came over best in question Time was came over best in question Time was

:41:40. > :41:40.came over best in question Time was came over best in question Time was

:41:40. > :41:41.Leanne Wood today. I do not think Leanne Wood today. I do not think

:41:41. > :41:42.Leanne Wood today. I do not think Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit

:41:42. > :41:43.Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit

:41:43. > :41:46.Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit the back of the all with questions

:41:46. > :41:46.the back of the all with questions the back of the all with questions

:41:46. > :41:47.about community health councils on about community health councils on

:41:47. > :41:52.about community health councils on about community health councils on

:41:52. > :41:53.one hand, and truancy on the other. one hand, and truancy on the other.

:41:53. > :41:53.one hand, and truancy on the other. one hand, and truancy on the other.

:41:53. > :41:57.Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn

:41:57. > :41:58.Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn

:41:58. > :41:59.Jones off his script by quoting from Jones off his script by quoting from

:41:59. > :42:00.Jones off his script by quoting from Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of

:42:00. > :42:01.Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of

:42:01. > :42:03.Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of state for Wales. I have to say that

:42:03. > :42:03.state for Wales. I have to say that state for Wales. I have to say that

:42:03. > :42:06.Labour are querying whether that Labour are querying whether that

:42:06. > :42:07.Labour are querying whether that quote is correct, although I checked

:42:07. > :42:08.quote is correct, although I checked quote is correct, although I checked

:42:08. > :42:09.quote is correct, although I checked it is as it appeared in the Western

:42:09. > :42:10.it is as it appeared in the Western it is as it appeared in the Western

:42:10. > :42:12.mail this morning. Whether there was mail this morning. Whether there was

:42:12. > :42:13.mail this morning. Whether there was mail this morning. Whether there was

:42:13. > :42:14.some error in the Western mail iss some error in the Western mail iss

:42:14. > :42:15.some error in the Western mail iss transcription this morning, I do not

:42:15. > :42:19.transcription this morning, I do not transcription this morning, I do not

:42:19. > :42:23.know. At that group Carwyn Jones. know. At that group Carwyn Jones.

:42:23. > :42:25.know. At that group Carwyn Jones. Also the debate is continuing about

:42:25. > :42:27.Also the debate is continuing about Also the debate is continuing about

:42:27. > :42:29.the changes to health in North the changes to health in North

:42:29. > :42:30.the changes to health in North Wales. The first-minister says he is

:42:30. > :42:38.Wales. The first-minister says he is Wales. The first-minister says he is

:42:38. > :42:38.taking any changes at ministerial taking any changes at ministerial

:42:38. > :42:39.taking any changes at ministerial level. Because the constituency of

:42:39. > :42:42.level. Because the constituency of level. Because the constituency of

:42:42. > :42:43.Lesley Griffiths is in that area. Lesley Griffiths is in that area.

:42:43. > :42:45.Lesley Griffiths is in that area. Yes, because she represents Wrexham,

:42:45. > :42:46.Yes, because she represents Wrexham, Yes, because she represents Wrexham,

:42:46. > :42:50.Yes, because she represents Wrexham, some of the funds will be undertaken

:42:50. > :42:54.some of the funds will be undertaken some of the funds will be undertaken

:42:54. > :42:56.by him. The Government is under by him. The Government is under

:42:56. > :42:57.by him. The Government is under pressure to put the plans into

:42:57. > :42:58.pressure to put the plans into pressure to put the plans into

:42:58. > :42:59.place. Last week in first Minister's place. Last week in first Minister's

:42:59. > :43:02.questions, Carwyn Jones almost questions, Carwyn Jones almost

:43:02. > :43:03.questions, Carwyn Jones almost questions, Carwyn Jones almost

:43:03. > :43:04.seemed to hint that he would be seemed to hint that he would be

:43:04. > :43:05.seemed to hint that he would be seemed to hint that he would be

:43:05. > :43:09.called in. This week we hear the called in. This week we hear the

:43:09. > :43:10.called in. This week we hear the called in. This week we hear the

:43:10. > :43:12.decision is his so it will seem more decision is his so it will seem more

:43:12. > :43:13.decision is his so it will seem more decision is his so it will seem more

:43:13. > :43:18.more likely that he will say these more likely that he will say these

:43:18. > :43:19.decisions should reach covenant. decisions should reach covenant.

:43:19. > :43:20.decisions should reach covenant. There were the problems in mid

:43:20. > :43:22.There were the problems in mid There were the problems in mid

:43:22. > :43:23.Staffordshire with the NHS that. Staffordshire with the NHS that.

:43:23. > :43:26.Staffordshire with the NHS that. Lessons to be learned across the

:43:27. > :43:28.Lessons to be learned across the Lessons to be learned across the

:43:28. > :43:28.Lessons to be learned across the whole of the UK? And what was

:43:28. > :43:31.whole of the UK? And what was whole of the UK? And what was

:43:31. > :43:32.interesting there was we saw once interesting there was we saw once

:43:32. > :43:33.interesting there was we saw once again some of the uncertainty

:43:33. > :43:35.again some of the uncertainty surrounding devolution and Carwyn

:43:35. > :43:36.surrounding devolution and Carwyn surrounding devolution and Carwyn

:43:36. > :43:37.Jones saying, we are thinking of Jones saying, we are thinking of

:43:37. > :43:38.Jones saying, we are thinking of Jones saying, we are thinking of

:43:38. > :43:38.introducing a law that we are not introducing a law that we are not

:43:38. > :43:40.introducing a law that we are not introducing a law that we are not

:43:40. > :43:41.sure whether we have the power, and sure whether we have the power, and

:43:41. > :43:42.sure whether we have the power, and sure whether we have the power, and

:43:43. > :43:43.that is why we have the ongoing that is why we have the ongoing

:43:43. > :43:44.that is why we have the ongoing enquiry looking at the way the

:43:44. > :43:48.enquiry looking at the way the enquiry looking at the way the

:43:48. > :43:49.powers of this place are defined. powers of this place are defined.

:43:49. > :43:50.powers of this place are defined. powers of this place are defined.

:43:50. > :43:51.Thank you. There will no doubt be Thank you. There will no doubt be

:43:51. > :43:51.Thank you. There will no doubt be Thank you. There will no doubt be

:43:51. > :43:53.plenty more to talk about on the plenty more to talk about on the

:43:53. > :43:54.plenty more to talk about on the next few weeks on those health

:43:54. > :43:55.next few weeks on those health next few weeks on those health

:43:55. > :43:56.next few weeks on those health service reform. I will be back at

:43:56. > :43:57.service reform. I will be back at service reform. I will be back at

:43:57. > :43:58.service reform. I will be back at the same time next week with more

:43:58. > :44:02.the same time next week with more coverage of first Minister's

:44:02. > :44:03.coverage of first Minister's coverage of first Minister's

:44:03. > :44:04.questions. Do not forget to watch questions. Do not forget to watch

:44:04. > :44:07.questions. Do not forget to watch questions. Do not forget to watch

:44:07. > :44:10.questions. Do not forget to watch the news for more at 630 PM. If you

:44:10. > :44:12.the news for more at 630 PM. If you the news for more at 630 PM. If you

:44:12. > :44:13.want more Welsh politics, you have want more Welsh politics, you have

:44:13. > :44:16.want more Welsh politics, you have want more Welsh politics, you have