17/07/2012

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:00:29. > :00:33.Afternoon, welcome to the programme where we will bring you First

:00:33. > :00:40.Minister's Questions. The Assembly breaks for the summer recess this

:00:40. > :00:45.week, but before they go, politicians have a busy week ahead.

:00:45. > :00:50.First, I will tell you you can get in touch with us if you want to

:00:50. > :01:00.know anything about what we are talking about or comments about

:01:00. > :01:05.

:01:05. > :01:08.They are already under way, so let's take a look at questions to

:01:08. > :01:17.the First Minister. The National's Assembly for Wales

:01:17. > :01:22.is in session on the first item is questions to the First Minister.

:01:22. > :01:28.What is the Welsh Government going to teach future generations about

:01:28. > :01:36.the industrial history of Wales? Future generations have an

:01:36. > :01:40.opportunity through informal and formal education. There is the

:01:40. > :01:44.National Museum interpretation programmes. I started my working

:01:45. > :01:49.life in the coalmines and I am proud of the Community's I

:01:49. > :01:55.represent. These communities like many mining communities have seen

:01:55. > :02:01.their fair share of tragedy. Do you agree with the words of the

:02:01. > :02:09.Caerphilly council leader the tragic history throughout the

:02:09. > :02:18.valley, with significant contribution from the coal-mining

:02:18. > :02:23.industry, there should be a Welsh National coal-mining memorial?

:02:23. > :02:28.Universal Colliery in 1913, the worst disaster of them all. I was

:02:28. > :02:34.pleased to be at the launch of the campaign to create a national

:02:34. > :02:38.mining memorial and it was good to see so many people at the launch.

:02:38. > :02:43.The available history curriculum is wide and varied and covers

:02:43. > :02:47.industrial heritage. But many will recognise it when I say schools

:02:47. > :02:52.seemed to concentrate on wartime Europe and the American civil

:02:52. > :03:01.rights movement. What is the Government doing to teach a wider

:03:01. > :03:06.range of topics and concentrate more on Welsh history? Industrial

:03:06. > :03:12.history is central to the history of study which is key stages two

:03:12. > :03:22.and three in schools. It allows further opportunity to develop

:03:22. > :03:22.

:03:22. > :03:26.knowledge and understanding. TRANSLATION: Wales has been a world

:03:27. > :03:32.leader in terms of in a to Viv and industrial developments in the past

:03:32. > :03:35.and it is very important we promote that for the future. At the moments

:03:35. > :03:42.are Committee in the Assembly is scrutinising the Heritage Bill.

:03:42. > :03:47.Would it be possible for young people in schools perhaps, to have

:03:47. > :03:54.more education in terms of what the legislation would mean for them in

:03:54. > :03:57.terms of promoting this particular sector, and in terms of

:03:57. > :04:01.participating in the consultation proposed by Government when they do

:04:01. > :04:06.bring their heritage Bill forward in 2013?

:04:06. > :04:10.TRANSLATION: You would wish to see young people playing a key role in

:04:10. > :04:16.the development and not just the Heritage Bill, but other bills, too.

:04:16. > :04:20.We look forward therefore, to ensuring this would be used to

:04:20. > :04:28.ensure there is an input from young people when the Bill goes through

:04:28. > :04:35.the Senedd. Extending the topic to include also

:04:35. > :04:39.the importance of Welsh agricultural industry and the role

:04:39. > :04:44.that is played alongside the industrial history of Wales and the

:04:44. > :04:51.heavy industries of the South Wales valleys. I have in mind the example

:04:51. > :04:55.of the tram road that is in the Brecon Beacons and in its day

:04:55. > :04:59.transported limestone to the farms of mid-Wales and brought

:04:59. > :05:05.agricultural products down the valley to those communities. First

:05:05. > :05:09.Minister, what can your Government do to ensure the important linkages

:05:09. > :05:11.between the industrial heartlands and the agriculture will

:05:11. > :05:15.communities are understood, particularly in the context of

:05:15. > :05:20.heritage tourism and the potential it has for the Welsh economy?

:05:20. > :05:24.I think the Museum of Welsh life does a good job in illustrating the

:05:24. > :05:29.important role agriculture has played in sustaining people's

:05:29. > :05:34.livelihoods in Wales. And you are right to point out the important

:05:34. > :05:39.link that exists between rural and urban Wales, given the facts so

:05:39. > :05:43.many families who lived in the mining areas had families in rural

:05:43. > :05:48.Wales where the family had originally come from. Leasing no

:05:48. > :05:52.better illustration of that link in the Royal Welsh Show next week when

:05:52. > :05:59.people will be travelling from a them Wales to enjoy the show, and

:05:59. > :06:04.also enjoyed and understand more about agriculture and rural life.

:06:04. > :06:12.Will the First Minister make a statement on the provision of acute

:06:12. > :06:17.medical care in the target area? have agreed plans to ensure Neath

:06:17. > :06:22.Port Talbot residents received acute care in the future. I met it

:06:22. > :06:27.with members from the board on Friday and they took time out to

:06:27. > :06:31.tell me about the changes that would be taking place at Neath Port

:06:31. > :06:37.Talbot Hospital in detail. Much of the changes they emphasise his to

:06:37. > :06:41.do with decisions by the Welsh deanery. I would like to clarify

:06:41. > :06:46.who the Welsh Deanery are accountable to and why does it not

:06:46. > :06:49.have to carry out a consultation on its actions? What steps of the

:06:49. > :06:54.Welsh Government taking to discuss with the UK Government that Dr

:06:54. > :06:58.recruitment problems caused by a tightening of immigration rules

:06:58. > :07:03.which has formed a lot of the changes in Neath Port Talbot

:07:03. > :07:06.hospital? The deanery is responsible for postgraduate

:07:06. > :07:12.training and responsible for ensuring medical training is

:07:12. > :07:17.adequate and safe. As far as the deanery of concerned, I have no

:07:17. > :07:24.argument with their right and duty to ensure safe services are

:07:24. > :07:28.provided. You do raise an important point regarding immigration. If

:07:28. > :07:36.immigration is seen as being too Beaumaris as far as the Medical

:07:36. > :07:40.profession is concerned, doctors will go elsewhere. Bewails we have

:07:40. > :07:46.relied on doctor's coming in from elsewhere. We have launched a

:07:47. > :07:53.recruitment campaign in order to attract staff of different

:07:53. > :07:58.seniority is into Welsh hospitals. I am sure he will be pleased the

:07:58. > :08:03.plans are in place to deal with the patient transfer as of the 1st

:08:03. > :08:07.September because of the closure of the queue to medical unit in Neath

:08:07. > :08:11.Port Talbot hospital. Would you be meeting with the UK Government to

:08:11. > :08:15.profess those points, to ensure what we have suffered this it is

:08:15. > :08:21.not repeated and immigration rules allow doctors to be brought in from

:08:21. > :08:26.overseas? This is an issue we have concerns about. Whether it is true

:08:26. > :08:33.or not it is difficult to get into the UK to work as a doctor, is

:08:33. > :08:38.immaterial. The perception is there. When I was in India in April, it

:08:38. > :08:41.was the perception the UK is almost closed in terms of people coming to

:08:41. > :08:50.study here and work here. It is something the UK Government will

:08:50. > :08:57.need to work hard to address. First Minister, we have debated the

:08:57. > :09:03.reasons for closing the acute medical unit and I recognise there

:09:03. > :09:05.are certain issues. My chief issue with the Government is what plans

:09:05. > :09:10.the Government and the Neath Port Talbot Hospital are putting in

:09:10. > :09:17.place to tackle the issue in the long term? We have a wrecked --

:09:17. > :09:22.excellent hospital, what steps are you taking to ensure doctors will

:09:22. > :09:27.remain? It comes under this point in my view, the need to recruit

:09:27. > :09:31.more doctors. It is not just a Welsh problem, it is a problem

:09:31. > :09:36.across the UK. There are several positions in hospitals across Wales

:09:36. > :09:40.that are not filled, not because there is no finance, but no

:09:40. > :09:44.applicants of the correct quality or standing in order to fill those

:09:44. > :09:48.posts, which is why we are continuing with a recruitment

:09:48. > :09:55.campaign in order to ensure we have hospitals that are staffed

:09:55. > :09:59.appropriately and safely in the future. When I met with the health

:09:59. > :10:04.board on Friday, one of the things that became Kier is this might not

:10:04. > :10:10.be the only area in which they might be difficulties in recruiting

:10:10. > :10:14.staff. Thermite the other problems in the future. In reply to another

:10:14. > :10:19.question, you said the UK Government needs to address the

:10:19. > :10:23.immigration problem. But you did not reply as to whether or not you

:10:23. > :10:27.are making representations to the UK Government about how we can

:10:27. > :10:31.improve the perception to make it easier to recruit doctors from

:10:31. > :10:38.abroad to meet the shortages other health boards may come up against

:10:38. > :10:47.in the future? It is important we realise this is increasingly a

:10:47. > :10:51.perception regarding the UK. This isn't an issue just for one

:10:51. > :11:00.specialism, nor is it just for one hospital, although history suggests

:11:00. > :11:05.it is more difficult to recruit and we must be careful to ensure there

:11:05. > :11:11.are sufficient doctors of quality being recruited in the future, in

:11:11. > :11:16.order to keep services we want to see kept. We move to questions from

:11:16. > :11:20.the party leaders. We have the leader of the Welsh Liberal

:11:20. > :11:23.Democrat, Kirsty Williams. recent weeks, half of your labour

:11:23. > :11:30.colleagues have issued press releases highlighting the extra

:11:30. > :11:34.money for the poorer schoolchildren made available by the Budget. This

:11:34. > :11:39.is thanks to a Labour Government, people have been saying. Of course,

:11:39. > :11:42.everyone knows this is thanks to the insistence of the was Liberal

:11:42. > :11:46.Democrats doing budget Nick associations. Will you ensure the

:11:46. > :11:50.other half of your labour colleagues inform their

:11:50. > :11:54.constituents of this excellent Liberal Democrat policy? I am going

:11:54. > :11:59.to be generous today and hope the generosity of spirit will continue

:11:59. > :12:04.tomorrow, and say it is quite right to say it is a Liberal Democrat

:12:04. > :12:12.idea and we were pleased to take it forward. I am pleased there is a

:12:12. > :12:18.high-level activity. Indeed there is. The Labour spin machine has

:12:18. > :12:22.gone into overdrive. The standard press release quotes you are saying

:12:22. > :12:26.The Wash Government is taking practical action to deliver better

:12:26. > :12:31.opportunities for disadvantaged children. The schools minister says

:12:31. > :12:37.it will provide financial assistance to help reduce the

:12:37. > :12:46.impact on educational attainment. I am not aware of any work towards a

:12:46. > :12:53.dated attempts to implement policy. Isn't this Liberal Democrat policy

:12:53. > :13:00.your best achievement this year? accept as part of the budget Nick

:13:00. > :13:05.associations last year, the grant was approved and it was something

:13:05. > :13:09.agreed on between the two parties. It is a policy which we are more

:13:09. > :13:16.than happy to implement and a policy we agree with. As far as we

:13:16. > :13:20.are concerned, we were more than happy to say it is a policy, one of

:13:20. > :13:26.many this Government has adopted to ensure the welfare of the people in

:13:26. > :13:31.Wales is paramount. This time last year you did Whip Labour Assembly

:13:31. > :13:35.members to vote against it. By the time of the budget you were

:13:35. > :13:44.persuaded up of the case, now you are enthusiastic supporters.

:13:44. > :13:50.Despite Labour member voting against, I hope further appropriate

:13:50. > :13:53.can be made. It would be presumptuous to make any

:13:53. > :14:00.assumptions as to what happens in the Budget next year in advance of

:14:00. > :14:05.any talks and of course, the need to come as the Liberal Democrats

:14:05. > :14:13.see it, to extend the pupil grant will form any part of any talks in

:14:13. > :14:18.the future. We moved to the leader of the opposition. Yesterday we had

:14:18. > :14:22.the excellent news of a lecture vocation, the complete package of

:14:22. > :14:27.electrification of the South Wales a Valley lines and all the way to

:14:27. > :14:31.Swansea. I'm sure you want to use this time to congratulate the UK

:14:31. > :14:36.Government on this announcement? is very much welcome and I look

:14:36. > :14:39.forward to seeing the work begin and it represents what we as a

:14:39. > :14:44.Government have argued before. had the announcement of the

:14:44. > :14:47.Heathrow spur, which your predecessor touched on being the

:14:47. > :14:52.most important announcement for 50 years in relation to the Welsh

:14:52. > :14:56.economy. That was before the announcement on a letter vocation

:14:57. > :15:00.of the valley Lines. This level of investment by the UK Government

:15:00. > :15:06.shows commitment to generating economic prosperity in Wales. Do

:15:06. > :15:14.you not agree with that statement? The opening of the Heathrow spur, I

:15:14. > :15:20.hope it happens as soon as possible. It was interesting in those

:15:20. > :15:24.questions seeing members on your bench agreeing, that those two

:15:24. > :15:28.major points will help the Welsh economy. But when we look at the

:15:28. > :15:34.actions of your own Government, is it time you stepped up to the plate

:15:34. > :15:39.in the field of legislation. We have only had one bill in this, we

:15:39. > :15:45.have had to millions of pounds cut out of the health budget, 16%

:15:45. > :15:51.increase in waiting times in Wales and in the field of education, 40%

:15:51. > :15:56.of primary schoolchildren enter into secondary school with below

:15:56. > :16:01.the average reading age. Doesn't this compare poorly with the level

:16:02. > :16:10.of commitment the UK Government has given to Wales in recent days to

:16:10. > :16:14.the inaction of the Government over I look forward to an agreement

:16:14. > :16:18.regarding Barnett and borrowing. I remind the opposition that the

:16:18. > :16:22.electrification between Paddington and Swansea was introduced in June

:16:22. > :16:28.2009 by the Minister of a different government and in May 2010, the

:16:28. > :16:32.then incoming government placed a moratorium on electrification.

:16:32. > :16:37.There is a real announcement of something previously announced by a

:16:37. > :16:40.Labour government. As far as what we are doing, may I remind the

:16:40. > :16:44.leader of the opposition... Order. Carry on.

:16:44. > :16:50.I remind the leader of the opposition that we have the growth

:16:50. > :16:57.fund, the Investment Fund, the micro business loans, Finance

:16:57. > :17:01.Wales's Jeremy fund and the Digital Development Plan, the Welsh Life

:17:01. > :17:06.Sciences fund, the business start- up service. All these are measures

:17:06. > :17:09.that have been taken to improve our economy despite the buffeting it is

:17:09. > :17:15.taking as a result of external influences.

:17:15. > :17:19.Now the leader of Plaid Cymru. You have made it clear that you or

:17:19. > :17:23.opposed to the welfare reform and benefit cuts coming from the

:17:23. > :17:28.coalition at Westminster. These cutbacks are a socially harmful and

:17:28. > :17:32.they are hitting people's pockets and harming the economy. It even

:17:32. > :17:36.though you have got limited resources to deploy a in countering

:17:36. > :17:40.these harmful cuts, do you agree with me that there needs to be a

:17:40. > :17:45.Welsh alternative to austerity if we have any chance of turning

:17:45. > :17:49.around the Welsh economy? I have just outlined the measures we are

:17:49. > :17:53.taking in order to support the economy and as the leader of Plaid

:17:53. > :17:57.Cymru will know, there is a ministerial group assessing the

:17:57. > :18:02.overall effect of welfare changes on Wales.

:18:02. > :18:07.Thank you, First Minister. You will no doubt be aware of the recent

:18:07. > :18:10.warning about council tax benefit cuts. There are concerns about the

:18:10. > :18:15.lack of time available for local authorities to implement any sort

:18:15. > :18:18.of replacement scheme for that. These cuts are also go against the

:18:18. > :18:24.aims of your tackling poverty Action Plan. First Minister, you

:18:24. > :18:28.have committed to taking a stand against Tory cuts so can you tell

:18:28. > :18:32.us why you disagreed with Plaid Cymru's call to buy some breathing

:18:32. > :18:36.space by cancelling these cuts for a year?

:18:36. > :18:41.We haven't disagreed with anything but when you have something thrown

:18:42. > :18:45.at you as a responsibility without the budget following, especially in

:18:45. > :18:48.difficult financial Times, it is exceptionally hard to look up for

:18:49. > :18:53.the money to make up for the short falls created by the UK government.

:18:53. > :18:57.We want to make sure that there is fairness across the whole of the UK

:18:57. > :19:02.and we would urge the UK government to rethink its policy on council

:19:02. > :19:05.tax benefits or to give us the full amount of the Budget to make sure

:19:05. > :19:08.the benefits can continue at the same level.

:19:08. > :19:12.I don't think that is good enough because you said that you would

:19:12. > :19:17.stand up for the people of Wales against Tory cuts. You could have

:19:17. > :19:21.shielded people from these cuts to council tax benefit as an emergency

:19:21. > :19:25.measure get you have chosen not to. You have chosen to have other

:19:25. > :19:29.priorities. Have you failed to deliver on this, you have failed to

:19:29. > :19:34.deliver on Barnett reform so far, you have failed to deliver any kind

:19:34. > :19:40.of fiscal stimulus that would protect jobs in a communities. Can

:19:40. > :19:43.you tell us how you respond to the words of your adviser who said, I

:19:43. > :19:48.don't think the Welsh government has been anything like as active as

:19:48. > :19:52.the Scottish government. As far as an concerned, I have met

:19:52. > :19:55.many times with UK ministers and I met for the prime minister

:19:55. > :19:59.yesterday. As far as Plaid Cymru are concerned, their words would

:19:59. > :20:02.carry more weight if they had any policies at all in terms of

:20:02. > :20:06.economic stimulus so we are waiting for a proposed Bill that they might

:20:06. > :20:10.bring forward but I remind the leader of Plaid Cymru once again of

:20:10. > :20:15.what has been dead to provide the fiscal stimulus. The economic

:20:15. > :20:21.growth fund, B business loan, the finance world fund, the life

:20:21. > :20:25.sciences fund, the business start- up service. I repeat these and at

:20:25. > :20:29.nauseam for some members but it seems Plaid Cymru and listening

:20:29. > :20:33.because week after week, they make the allegation that nothing has

:20:33. > :20:38.been done to help business and stimulate the economy in Wales when

:20:38. > :20:43.the facts show the opposite. We now move back to questions on

:20:43. > :20:47.the Order Paper. Question 3. What action is the Welsh government

:20:47. > :20:52.taking to help separated parents resolve maintenance?

:20:52. > :20:57.This is largely a non devolved area but we do look after the wealth

:20:57. > :21:00.which -- the welfare of children by encouraging them after separation

:21:01. > :21:04.where it is in the child's best interest.

:21:04. > :21:09.It is a largely devolved area but nonetheless an area affecting

:21:09. > :21:13.people across the whole of the United Kingdom. The evidence shows

:21:13. > :21:18.that children who went in contact with -- who are in contact with

:21:18. > :21:22.both parents have a better outlook on life and it is only when it is

:21:22. > :21:26.an safe that they should not have contact with both parents. What can

:21:26. > :21:31.tact have you had with the UK government over the resolution on

:21:31. > :21:35.shared parenting? There was a �50 million scheme launched to support

:21:35. > :21:41.separated parents to work together more effective way.

:21:41. > :21:46.We welcome the response to the justice review. We believe it is a

:21:46. > :21:49.major reform to improve the lives of children and families. A Family

:21:49. > :21:58.Justice Board have been established to drive these reforms and Welsh

:21:58. > :22:01.government has secured seats fought Welsh representatives on the board.

:22:01. > :22:04.Can the First Minister in for almost as to when he will expect a

:22:05. > :22:08.report on the work of the family operational boards in Wales and

:22:08. > :22:13.whether advice and support could be offered by that board to separated

:22:13. > :22:17.parents? I ask this question to help explode the public myth that

:22:17. > :22:21.separated fathers in Wales do not care about their children's future

:22:21. > :22:26.when the reverse is the two. Whatever assistance can be given by

:22:26. > :22:28.the board is welcome. The member is right to point out that many

:22:28. > :22:35.fathers have historically not seen their children through no fault of

:22:35. > :22:38.their Rome. I have represented both parties in divorce proceedings and

:22:38. > :22:42.in years gone by, if there was a determination on behalf of one

:22:43. > :22:46.parent, that the courts wouldn't intervene and that is not

:22:46. > :22:50.satisfactory. The move towards shared parenting, where appropriate,

:22:50. > :22:57.in the interest of the child, is very well go.

:22:57. > :23:02.Question four. Does the delivery unit have

:23:02. > :23:12.measures in place for development? We measure direct investment in

:23:12. > :23:12.

:23:12. > :23:16.terms of GDP, G D HIV. The delivery unit is monitoring the process.

:23:16. > :23:22.Yesterday's decision to electrify it in effect the whole of the South

:23:22. > :23:25.Wales rail network will be a boon to market Wales internationally. We

:23:26. > :23:29.have good rail services in South Wales in terms of their reach and

:23:29. > :23:31.it is important we build on this and remind people what an

:23:31. > :23:36.attractive place South Wales is to do business.

:23:36. > :23:42.Indeed so. The great worry I have is if the line was electrified as

:23:42. > :23:46.far as Cardiff, Cardiff would be seen as the end of the line. The

:23:47. > :23:50.fear is that the Vale of Glamorgan line is that is a diversion line

:23:50. > :23:54.west so if one line was electrified and the other wasn't, that would be

:23:54. > :23:57.an issue. What we don't know is when the work will begin. We know

:23:57. > :24:01.when the work will begin to Cardiff but it would be helpful to know

:24:01. > :24:11.when the work would be begun and finished as far as Swansea and the

:24:11. > :24:11.

:24:11. > :24:17.Valley lines. You have had a meeting with a

:24:17. > :24:22.representative of German industry UK during this last year. It is a

:24:22. > :24:27.body representing German industry is based here in Britain. Are there

:24:27. > :24:31.any ash comes to those meetings, bearing in mind the importance of

:24:31. > :24:36.the German economy to Europe and of course likewise, to us here in

:24:36. > :24:41.Wales? I did meet with him a number of

:24:41. > :24:45.months ago now and of course, Germany is an exceptionally

:24:45. > :24:50.important economy from Wales's point of view. What we are

:24:50. > :24:53.considering at present is whether we need to insure that we should

:24:53. > :24:58.have someone dealing full-time with Germany on behalf of the Welsh

:24:58. > :25:04.government in order to ensure we are able to create a more

:25:04. > :25:07.investment into Wales from Germany. As the Welsh government had any

:25:07. > :25:12.discussions with her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary about

:25:12. > :25:15.the impact of budget cuts on policing and budget safety in

:25:15. > :25:20.Wales? Not with the Inspectorate of

:25:20. > :25:27.Constabulary. There have been conversations with Constable's.

:25:27. > :25:29.Policing is not devolved but we are helping with community support

:25:29. > :25:32.officers. Following the decision by the UK

:25:32. > :25:37.coalition government to cut police funding in Wales and across the UK

:25:37. > :25:41.by 20%, you will be aware that a report at the start of July from

:25:41. > :25:45.the Inspectorate and card -- Inspector of Constabulary revealed

:25:45. > :25:51.that Welsh forces can expect to lose hundreds of frontline officers

:25:51. > :25:53.as part of frontline staff going across England and Wales. The

:25:53. > :25:58.Police Federation say this will have a serious impact on public

:25:58. > :26:03.safety. In contrast to that, can you confirm that this Welsh

:26:03. > :26:06.government will stick to its commitment to support community

:26:06. > :26:08.safety and Kenny also confirm if he has had any support from the

:26:08. > :26:11.Secretary of State for Wales in fighting for the corner of Welsh

:26:11. > :26:16.police for so his? I would urge the Secretary of State

:26:16. > :26:20.to do just that. It is not an issue she has raised with me in terms of

:26:20. > :26:26.her fighting our corner. As far as the committee's report officers are

:26:26. > :26:32.concerned, there are around 200 I there deployed or in training. That

:26:32. > :26:34.was as of last month and that takes us to was the commitment to deploy

:26:34. > :26:39.a 500 community support officers during the course of this the and

:26:39. > :26:44.much. -- this government.

:26:44. > :26:48.North Wales will be one of the 15 areas in the UK tiling

:26:48. > :26:52.neighbourhood justice panels which will allow trained members of the

:26:52. > :26:57.public a say in how low-level criminality and anti-social

:26:57. > :27:01.offenders could make amends for their communities. We confirm if

:27:01. > :27:04.these panels demonstrate a significant reduction in

:27:04. > :27:09.reoffending and anti-social behaviour in North Wales, that you

:27:09. > :27:13.will work with the Ministry of Justice to roll the boards out

:27:13. > :27:16.across Wales? I look forward to seeing the

:27:16. > :27:22.results of the project but it doesn't get away from the fact that

:27:22. > :27:26.fewer police equals more crime. As simple as that. Offenders are not

:27:26. > :27:28.deterred by the speed of the course, they are not deterred by the

:27:28. > :27:32.availability of courts and sometimes even by the sentencing.

:27:32. > :27:36.They are deterred by being caught and if there is less of a risk of

:27:36. > :27:39.them being caught, that means we will see more of ending which is

:27:40. > :27:49.why fewer police officers inevitably means there will be more

:27:50. > :27:50.

:27:50. > :27:56.people to chance their arm, and A few weeks ago, I met with Nick

:27:56. > :27:59.Herbert, the UK police minister, in Westminster about the cuts. I urged

:27:59. > :28:03.him to accept the request from the South Wales police that there

:28:03. > :28:08.should be additional funding for Cardiff in recognition of its

:28:08. > :28:12.status as a capital city. Does the First Minister agree with me that

:28:12. > :28:15.the UK Coalition's failure to properly fund these costs does put

:28:15. > :28:19.additional pressure on frontline policing in Cardiff and it should

:28:19. > :28:22.be addressed? Indeed, there are extra pressures

:28:22. > :28:25.on South Wales police because of the current funding formula and

:28:25. > :28:30.it's important it is re-examined but I never thought I would see the

:28:30. > :28:35.day when I would see a Conservative lead government elected on the

:28:35. > :28:37.platform with fewer police. I never thought I would see the day when I

:28:37. > :28:42.would see Conservatives in this chamber stand behind back. Most

:28:42. > :28:45.people want to live in communities that are safe and that means having

:28:45. > :28:55.sufficient police officers to insure those communities are safe

:28:55. > :28:56.

:28:56. > :28:59.and that is something the UK First Minister, I was under the

:28:59. > :29:06.assumption that Yvette Cooper had made the same kind of commitment to

:29:06. > :29:09.police cuts herself. The question away at is that at a time when

:29:09. > :29:16.there are swingeing cuts in the police budgets, do you agree with

:29:16. > :29:21.me that it is a bad idea to do. Police commissioners to take money

:29:21. > :29:25.away from the basic police service and shouldn't we be in discussion

:29:25. > :29:29.with Westminster on the devolution of the functions of the police

:29:29. > :29:33.forces, not the police forces themselves, but their functions, in

:29:33. > :29:40.order to provide effective policing in Wales?

:29:40. > :29:45.Well, in considering part two of silk, we need to look at that. It

:29:45. > :29:49.is a fair argument and one that is ongoing in terms of devolution and

:29:49. > :29:53.the police service is one of the only major services that is not

:29:53. > :29:57.devolved but in terms of police commissioners, we were against

:29:57. > :30:01.police commissioners. We now know that these actions will take place

:30:01. > :30:06.in November. What we don't know is what kind of impact the

:30:06. > :30:11.commissioners will have in terms of their responsibilities they cannot

:30:11. > :30:19.interfere with day-to-day police business and it is difficult to see

:30:19. > :30:28.what the benefit of the As chaos descends on the Olympics

:30:28. > :30:32.due to the incompetence of the UK government and G4S and it is left

:30:32. > :30:37.to the public sector, it is left to the public sector to try and pick

:30:37. > :30:41.up the pieces, South Wales police are likely to be drafted down to

:30:41. > :30:44.the Olympics... Order, order.

:30:44. > :30:48.Will you be making any representations to ensure that

:30:48. > :30:53.adequate policing and community support is available in Wales

:30:53. > :30:57.whilst our police are travelling to sort out their mess.

:30:57. > :31:01.I am always amazed that the Conservative benches think they can

:31:01. > :31:05.shout and it has an effect. They can't be heard out there. All that

:31:05. > :31:08.can be heard is a low murmur which is as much sense as you would

:31:08. > :31:12.expect to get out of them but as far as the Member for Pontypridd is

:31:12. > :31:18.concerned, it is clear that we should have enough security around

:31:18. > :31:22.the Olympics. The UK government has questions to ask regarding insuring

:31:22. > :31:26.that security is in place and I really hope it is. We all see what

:31:26. > :31:29.has happened over the last few days and it is incumbent the UK

:31:29. > :31:32.government provides assurances to members of the public that

:31:32. > :31:36.sufficient security will be in place for the Olympic Games.

:31:36. > :31:45.Some members are very restless this afternoon. I am not looking at

:31:45. > :31:55.anybody in particular. Andrew RT Davies. Can we move on to the

:31:55. > :32:06.

:32:06. > :32:10.My question was tabled before the statement but I noted that in the

:32:10. > :32:15.statement, the Health Minister set out a three-stage process in which

:32:15. > :32:20.this process would be brought into play and in the first stage, it

:32:20. > :32:26.related during 2012, when she said it would be further reduced with

:32:26. > :32:30.the number of then closing to insure the appropriate distribution

:32:30. > :32:36.of early morning and evening appointments. What is the take-up

:32:36. > :32:39.of that particular stay to? The Government should ensure that

:32:39. > :32:44.access is available to all people in Wales by the end of this

:32:44. > :32:51.government's term. The member has not referred to the survey this

:32:51. > :32:55.carried out but it was curious. 680 g p practices were written to but

:32:55. > :33:02.there are only 476 in the whole of Wales so I do wonder what the

:33:02. > :33:12.accuracy of that survey actually is. We want to work with doctors to

:33:12. > :33:12.

:33:12. > :33:16.make sure we have access to GP On 18th October, you told the

:33:16. > :33:21.National Assembly that there is no cost to extending GP opening hours

:33:21. > :33:24.and in fact, you said if other surgeries in Wales can do it, why

:33:24. > :33:28.can't those surgeries that currently aunt. What you didn't

:33:28. > :33:34.tell the Assembly was that the cost of providing extended hours at the

:33:34. > :33:42.moment to the government is �726,000 per year, or it was in

:33:42. > :33:46.2010. It is now funded as a direct enhanced service. Given the only

:33:46. > :33:50.surgeries who do open for extra hours at the moment do so because

:33:50. > :33:54.they are getting extra cash and given that the NHS is facing

:33:54. > :33:59.record-breaking cuts as a result of your government decisions in

:33:59. > :34:04.Cardiff Bay, how do you anticipate you can achieve the GP access

:34:04. > :34:08.commitment without extra cash? GPs need to work more flexibly. I

:34:09. > :34:13.think that is reasonable. The taxpayer pays for GPs and the

:34:13. > :34:17.taxpayer is entitled to a service they can access more easily. I hear

:34:17. > :34:21.the member opposite talking about record-breaking cuts when only in

:34:21. > :34:27.the last two days we have heard of plans by health trusts in England

:34:27. > :34:32.to cut people's pay. Fact doctors, cut their pay, sacked nurses, cut

:34:32. > :34:36.their pay. He is suggesting that somehow in Wales, things are worse.

:34:36. > :34:46.We know what would happen if his party was in power in Wales, we

:34:46. > :34:49.

:34:49. > :34:52.would see nurses, doctors, porkers Elin Jones.

:34:52. > :35:00.First Minister, it is your government policy to enhance

:35:00. > :35:05.healthcare in the community given a central role to GPs. Do you share

:35:05. > :35:09.my concerns that there are 60% fewer GP training places available

:35:09. > :35:13.in Bronglais Hospital from August this year onwards? There was a

:35:13. > :35:20.serious impact on staffing levels in this hospital and this was

:35:20. > :35:30.related to the shortage of funding from the Welsh deanery.

:35:30. > :35:31.

:35:31. > :35:36.Once again the Deanery has been mentioned. We need to make sure

:35:36. > :35:40.that doctors are trained in a place they can be trained properly so we

:35:41. > :35:44.need to ensure there are sufficient places in Wales to train them.

:35:44. > :35:49.Sufficient placements. Of course, that is why the recruitment

:35:49. > :35:52.campaign is continuing, bearing in mind that Bronglais Hospital is one

:35:52. > :35:57.of the hospitals that is difficult to recruit two. It is important

:35:57. > :36:00.that people will come to Aberystwyth and be trained in

:36:00. > :36:03.Aberystwyth and those senior doctors are there for that to her

:36:03. > :36:07.than. What is the Welsh government doing

:36:07. > :36:11.to tackle substance misuse? We continue to invest over �50

:36:11. > :36:21.million per annum to implement the actions within the ten-year

:36:21. > :36:22.

:36:22. > :36:27.Yesterday I ran into a two drug addicts who were also probably

:36:27. > :36:33.drug-dealers, working in an area which is being beset by people who

:36:33. > :36:36.are dealing in drugs and causing huge anti-social problems to the

:36:36. > :36:41.whole community in that area. I just wondered if you could give me

:36:41. > :36:47.some indication as to how much we can expect substance misuse to rise

:36:47. > :36:51.in line with increased unemployment, as people often turn to drugs

:36:51. > :36:57.because they are depressed and are not properly employed.

:36:57. > :37:01.substance misuse action fund is providing �27.5 million in funding

:37:02. > :37:07.to community safety partnerships to tackle substance misuse and �5.7

:37:07. > :37:13.million to improve substance misuse treatment facilities. A further

:37:14. > :37:21.�17.1 million is ring-fenced for substance misuse services within

:37:21. > :37:29.the health discretionary budgets. First Minister, for every 10

:37:29. > :37:33.alcohol-related car accidents on young male drivers admit to driving

:37:33. > :37:39.after taking drugs. The Crown Communications and Court Bill

:37:39. > :37:42.announced in this year's Queen's Speech announced proposals to

:37:42. > :37:50.tackle drunk-driving. Of what correspondent have you had with UK

:37:50. > :37:56.ministers to protect Welsh interests in this matter? Driving

:37:56. > :38:00.while under the influence of drugs is already an offence, of course.

:38:00. > :38:06.It can sometimes be difficult to assess whether they are on drugs or

:38:06. > :38:11.not. It is easier with the breathalyser and blood tests, which

:38:11. > :38:16.are normally taken at the police station. But we would very much

:38:16. > :38:20.support any moves by the UK government to reduce the number of

:38:20. > :38:30.deaths caused by drug driving and the number of people who drive

:38:30. > :38:31.

:38:31. > :38:36.I accept your answer about the work of the community safety

:38:36. > :38:39.partnerships. What is the Government doing to recover

:38:39. > :38:44.individuals in integrated Peer Support Scheme and do you agree

:38:44. > :38:49.with establishing a recovery champion scheme, wouldn't only

:38:49. > :38:54.benefit substance misusers but provide unstable individuals with

:38:54. > :39:00.the opportunity to contribute to society and support their continued

:39:00. > :39:06.recovery? The first step to recovery is treatment. Waiting

:39:06. > :39:13.times have reduced substantially. The latest published figures

:39:13. > :39:17.between September and October 2011, 7-1 climbs were assessed within 10

:39:18. > :39:22.days of referral and 91% were treated within 10 days of

:39:22. > :39:30.assessment. There are areas where waiting times are higher than we

:39:30. > :39:34.would want. We are working with those area planning boards.

:39:34. > :39:38.Question number eight. Will the First Minister provide an update on

:39:38. > :39:43.the Welsh Government's policies for looked after children in Wales?

:39:43. > :39:46.are progressing with plans to improve the lives of looked at two

:39:46. > :39:56.children which builds on our innovative if programmes to support

:39:56. > :40:01.families, including integrated family support services. The latest

:40:01. > :40:06.year in which figures are available show a further 5% increase in the

:40:06. > :40:11.number of children looked after by local authorities in Wales. It is a

:40:11. > :40:16.trend which has been established for a 20 year period. Would you

:40:16. > :40:22.welcome the decision of the newly elected Labour authority in Cardiff

:40:22. > :40:29.to develop a social impact on, tailored to Welsh circumstances?

:40:29. > :40:33.And if successful it would allow the Welsh authority to re-engineer

:40:33. > :40:41.services to allow families to stay together rather than taking

:40:41. > :40:45.children into care? That approach is very much in line with ours, and

:40:45. > :40:50.we welcome the initiative. It is an initiative which invests in

:40:50. > :40:54.programmes which supports these the rebel groups. Cardiff will need to

:40:54. > :41:02.undertake a proper valuation, but I do look forward to seeing how it

:41:02. > :41:12.develops. STUDIO. That is it from First

:41:12. > :41:15.

:41:15. > :41:20.Minister's Questions until September. As usual, Welsh affairs

:41:20. > :41:23.editor Vaughn Roderick is here. But anyone was watching last week they

:41:23. > :41:30.would have heard us say that was the most exciting First Minister's

:41:30. > :41:36.Questions we would have seen, not so today? It was a bit flat today.

:41:36. > :41:42.Kirsty Williams trying to take the credit she feels is due. He gave it.

:41:42. > :41:52.He disarmed her by saying, sure. Then she came across as petulant

:41:52. > :42:00.and ungracious. Leanne Wood I think had one of her First Minister's

:42:00. > :42:04.Questions. She was responding to what Carwyn Jones was saying. A bit

:42:04. > :42:07.of a surprise none of the opposition leaders or any other

:42:07. > :42:14.members chose to go on the questions surrounding the Health

:42:14. > :42:18.Secretary. - the health minister rather. I would have thought they

:42:18. > :42:22.could have brought the heat up on Lesley Griffiths before the no

:42:22. > :42:27.confidence vote tomorrow. How has the no confidence motion ran out of

:42:27. > :42:33.steam? Assuming all Labour Am's are here and press the right button,

:42:33. > :42:37.they won't lose the vote? Even if the opposition party members are

:42:37. > :42:43.here, and it appears not all of them, maybe, the numbers don't

:42:43. > :42:46.stack up for the opposition to win the vote. A lot of people are

:42:46. > :42:49.beginning to look at Lesley Griffiths appearance before the

:42:49. > :42:56.health committee as being the thing that made beside her long-term

:42:56. > :43:00.future. There are some people on the Labour benches, while they

:43:00. > :43:04.backed Lesley Griffiths, have doubts about her as health minister.

:43:04. > :43:09.There is some talk Carwyn Jones should look at a reshuffle over the

:43:09. > :43:12.summer. It is very low level, but it might be more important to her

:43:12. > :43:17.future on how well she comes across in the health committee, rather

:43:17. > :43:21.than the actual debate in the Chamber. Another person who has

:43:21. > :43:29.been changing around her team, Leanne Wood has appointed Elin

:43:29. > :43:35.Jones as her deputy leader? Yes, Linda maze Johnson said it is

:43:35. > :43:40.better to have somebody inside the tent spitting out. Elin Jones came

:43:40. > :43:47.second in the leadership race, and it is an idea to keep your end of -