:00:28. > :00:32.Hello again. Welcome to the programme and our weekly coverage of
:00:33. > :00:37.questions to the First Minister. We are in the middle of a tumultuous
:00:38. > :00:42.period for British and Welsh politics, dominated by fallout from
:00:43. > :00:47.the EU referendum. Now AMs have returned to Cardiff Bay to discuss
:00:48. > :00:50.all that as well as other topics, ranging from assistance to Syrian
:00:51. > :00:53.refugees to cancer treatment. Don't forget, you can follow all the
:00:54. > :00:59.latest on Welsh politics on our Twitter feed: Let's cross to the
:01:00. > :01:05.chamber for questions to the First Minister.
:01:06. > :01:10.TRANSLATION: I call the National Assembly to order and the first item
:01:11. > :01:14.on the agenda is questions to the First Minister and the first
:01:15. > :01:22.question now. Will the First Minister make a statement on basic
:01:23. > :01:27.payment scheme payments to farmers? Over 99% of eligible farm businesses
:01:28. > :01:32.have been paid. Thank you. I'm obliged to raise this question
:01:33. > :01:37.actually as a result of my own intense concerns at the handling of
:01:38. > :01:44.basic payments for the still outstanding to our farmers and your
:01:45. > :01:49.own Government department's process. 17,063 farmers submitted their
:01:50. > :01:53.applications in June 2015. Yet 12 months later, there are
:01:54. > :01:59.approximately 171 yet to receive any payment. Indeed I have represented
:02:00. > :02:03.farmers who have waited several months for payment without any
:02:04. > :02:09.acknowledgement of their application and many promised that they've been
:02:10. > :02:16.paid when they have not. One was for ?60,000. First Minister, the delay
:02:17. > :02:22.of such magnitude is now putting farmers' livelihoods at risk.
:02:23. > :02:28.Outstanding payments are causing immense stress and frustration.
:02:29. > :02:32.First Minister, will you look into - your own Government department's
:02:33. > :02:37.workings, to ensure our hard working farmers and the custodians of our
:02:38. > :02:43.countryside are not facing potential financial ruin because of your own
:02:44. > :02:48.Government department delays? I repeat again the answer I gave to
:02:49. > :02:53.the original question, over 99% of eligible farm businesses have been
:02:54. > :02:56.paid. They've had a basic payment scheme payment. If there are
:02:57. > :03:00.individual farms with difficulties, the correct thing to do is raise the
:03:01. > :03:05.difficulties with the minister to be looked at for those individuals. We
:03:06. > :03:14.consistently out perform England and Scotland year upon year upon year
:03:15. > :03:17.when it comes to paying our farmers. TRANSLATION: First Minister, I'm
:03:18. > :03:22.sure that you like I regret the fact that so many farmers have voted to
:03:23. > :03:27.vote the, voted to leave the European Union. There's no taut that
:03:28. > :03:32.did happen. One of the reasons they gave me for considering that was not
:03:33. > :03:38.that the payments were late, but that penalties and fines would
:03:39. > :03:42.follow minor disagreements or minor errors, as were identified by Civil
:03:43. > :03:46.Service in the claims for these payments. Now you've lost a great
:03:47. > :03:51.deal of confidence among the farming community because of those
:03:52. > :03:53.penalties, when Phil Hogan and the European Commission said it was
:03:54. > :03:57.possible to be flexible, though that's water under the bridge now,
:03:58. > :04:01.can you revive the reputation of the Welsh Government among farmers by
:04:02. > :04:05.looking at the situation where penalties follow what should be a
:04:06. > :04:12.discussion between yourselves, as the Government, and farmers about
:04:13. > :04:15.their payments? I ask the member to write to me with more details. We
:04:16. > :04:20.have been following the regulations that exist at present. Of course, we
:04:21. > :04:27.have been paying farmers much more quickly than the case in Scotland or
:04:28. > :04:31.England. As regards the details of the individual farmers, I'd be
:04:32. > :04:36.pleased to receive a letter to consider what's happened. Will the
:04:37. > :04:42.First Minister provide an update on the Syrian refugees being resettled
:04:43. > :04:46.in Wales? 78 refugees were resettled in Wales as of the end of May. We
:04:47. > :04:52.expect more to arrive over the coming months. I thank the First
:04:53. > :04:55.Minister for that response. It's been disturbing to hear the racist
:04:56. > :04:59.comments since the results of the EU referendum. We hope that won't
:05:00. > :05:03.affect the really good welcome given in Wales to the Syrian refugees. But
:05:04. > :05:11.what more does the First Minister think can be done to help refugee
:05:12. > :05:13.children, in particular, and unaccompanied asylum seeking
:05:14. > :05:17.children to get the maximum support from the local authorities and
:05:18. > :05:21.communities where they're placed? I can inform the member that the
:05:22. > :05:25.taskforce was established in November 2015. That is supported by
:05:26. > :05:30.an operations board. There is a children's subgroup of that
:05:31. > :05:35.operations board. That will ensure coordination of schemes to take
:05:36. > :05:40.refugee children from the Middle East and north Africa, unaccompanied
:05:41. > :05:44.asylum seeking children from camps and those arriving in Kent. A
:05:45. > :05:47.conference is hosted by the Home Office with the local authorities to
:05:48. > :05:52.launch the national transfer scheme in Wales.
:05:53. > :05:55.First Minister, I echo the concerns raised in relation to racist
:05:56. > :06:01.comments that have happened since the European vote last week. I would
:06:02. > :06:05.condemn those, that approach to the reaction to the European referendum.
:06:06. > :06:10.I wonder, have you considered how moving forward with the Communities
:06:11. > :06:13.Minister potentially, how we can bring communities together? Quite
:06:14. > :06:18.often a lot of people have voted in this referendum, be it for reasons
:06:19. > :06:21.that they were voting against the establishment, voting against
:06:22. > :06:26.poverty in their local areas - how can we try now, regardless of the
:06:27. > :06:31.vote, to bring people together to move forward as a nation, so that we
:06:32. > :06:34.do not see future situation where's people are divided and turning
:06:35. > :06:38.against each other in their own communities? There is no doubt that
:06:39. > :06:42.our nation is divided. It's important that cohesion is
:06:43. > :06:46.re-established. I don't believe that division has sudden lay peered. I
:06:47. > :06:49.don't think suddenly people have changed their minds in the way they
:06:50. > :06:52.perceive others. There will be a small nigh for the who feel that
:06:53. > :06:56.way. That's true of almost every country in the world, unfortunately.
:06:57. > :07:01.No, I think the emphasis now has to be, and I'll mention it later on in
:07:02. > :07:05.the debate, that now is the time to rebuild and unite our nation of
:07:06. > :07:08.Wales in order to make sure that what we've seen as a break down in
:07:09. > :07:13.some communities in terms of cohesion is not something that we
:07:14. > :07:16.should see in the long-term. First Minister, can I join with those
:07:17. > :07:20.who've already expressed their condemnation of the racist attacks
:07:21. > :07:24.and criticisms that have taken place on social immediate why and
:07:25. > :07:29.elsewhere in recent days. But can you also join with me in praising
:07:30. > :07:32.the work of faith communities across Wales who've done their utmost to
:07:33. > :07:37.protect those Syrian refugees and others who have come to Wales to
:07:38. > :07:43.flee persecution in their countries and in particular, the Syrian
:07:44. > :07:46.Orthodox Church which has strong representation in Wales and has
:07:47. > :07:50.engaged both with the faith communities forum, which you chair,
:07:51. > :07:55.and the work of the Assembly, with the cross-party group on faith? Yes,
:07:56. > :08:00.the community forum is hugely useful in terms of identifying problems and
:08:01. > :08:04.for planning for the future. It's a true example of those from many
:08:05. > :08:08.different faiths working together in the common interests of promoting
:08:09. > :08:11.the welfare of humanity, if I can put it that way. It's a forum that
:08:12. > :08:19.works very well. I look forward to it continuing in the future. I note
:08:20. > :08:23.that Newport, Cardiff and Swansea are all in the top ten of UK cities
:08:24. > :08:28.for receiving refugees. Do we have any idea what is the total cost to
:08:29. > :08:33.local authorities in Wales of housing the recent wave of refugees?
:08:34. > :08:37.There are 78 of them. It's not a substantial cost. We expect those
:08:38. > :08:43.costs to be met in whole or part by the Home Office.
:08:44. > :08:45.TRANSLATION: Now move to questions from the party leaders. The first
:08:46. > :08:49.question to the First Minister this week from the leader of the Welsh
:08:50. > :08:53.Conservatives. Thank you Presiding Officer. First
:08:54. > :08:57.Minister, I'd like to identify with the sentiments expressed by other
:08:58. > :09:00.members. There is no room for any intolerance and in particular racism
:09:01. > :09:04.in any part of our country, here in Wales or any part of the United
:09:05. > :09:07.Kingdom. I stand shoulder to shoulder with any member and any
:09:08. > :09:11.institution who is standing to defend those liberties to make sure
:09:12. > :09:17.that people can speak freely and openly in any part of this country.
:09:18. > :09:21.We cannot allow any festering sentiment to actually contaminate
:09:22. > :09:25.the democracy we hold so dear to ourselves and to this great country
:09:26. > :09:27.of ours. First Minister, I'd like to ask you, last week we had the
:09:28. > :09:32.referendum. The result is understood. The consequences are
:09:33. > :09:37.unfolding before us and negotiations will start shortly. On the weekend,
:09:38. > :09:41.you said that this wasn't your election, on the Sunday supplement
:09:42. > :09:45.programme. It is a vital referendum that has just taken place, in fact,
:09:46. > :09:50.in credit to you, you did say back at the start of the referendum
:09:51. > :09:55.campaign, this was the most important vote for a generation and
:09:56. > :09:59.a vote forever. Can you assure me that was merely a media slip on
:10:00. > :10:03.Sunday supplement and you did engage fully and you didn't look at this
:10:04. > :10:07.referendum as someone else's referendum to fight? It's not the
:10:08. > :10:11.ground that I would have chosen. All the time I told the Prime Minister
:10:12. > :10:15.that. It's important that we had the referendum and the result is now
:10:16. > :10:19.known. It's hardly a ringing endorsement
:10:20. > :10:23.then, is it? I do think it's important to understand how the
:10:24. > :10:27.Welsh Government has been preparing for the outcome of the referendum.
:10:28. > :10:31.Obviously the Chancellor has confirmed that the UK Government
:10:32. > :10:36.irrespective of its position in that referendum was preparing for both
:10:37. > :10:39.scenarios. Obviously, there are people in receipt of European monies
:10:40. > :10:45.and grants and that will continue so long as we are part of and paying
:10:46. > :10:49.into the European pot. What work was undertaken and commissioned by you
:10:50. > :10:53.as First Minister, within Welsh Government, to make sure that both
:10:54. > :10:59.outcomes were modelled and Welsh Government was in the best place
:11:00. > :11:02.possible to assist with information and support whatever the outcome of
:11:03. > :11:07.that referendum was? That will be part of debate later on. Like I say,
:11:08. > :11:11.the outcome is impossible to model. We have no idea what the final deal
:11:12. > :11:14.will look like. Until we have an understanding of that, do we know
:11:15. > :11:17.whether there will be access to the single market? We know that the
:11:18. > :11:21.people of Wales voted to leave the EU. Beyond that we don't know what
:11:22. > :11:24.model we will get in two years. Until we see that, it will be
:11:25. > :11:28.difficult to pass judgment upon it. I know he is in favour of free
:11:29. > :11:32.movement of people. He's said that today. He's also in favour of Welsh
:11:33. > :11:35.money being kept in London, in the Treasury, which is another thing he
:11:36. > :11:39.said today. I have to say to him that many people said on the
:11:40. > :11:42.doorstep, when they were asked about European money funding projects in
:11:43. > :11:46.their communities, they said, it's our money any way. I have written to
:11:47. > :11:52.the Prime Minister saying I expect every single penny, every single
:11:53. > :11:55.penny that we will lose when we cease to be eligible for European
:11:56. > :11:59.funding to be made up by the UK Government and that money to come to
:12:00. > :12:02.Wales. He has said today that he does not mind if that money is
:12:03. > :12:06.locked up in Treasury in Westminster. This money is the money
:12:07. > :12:10.that is there for the people of Wales. It is not for the UK Treasury
:12:11. > :12:15.or for him to interfere with their rights. First Minister, I did not
:12:16. > :12:20.say locked up in the Treasury. I said there will be a new model of
:12:21. > :12:26.the way Government undertakes itself in any part of the United Kingdom. I
:12:27. > :12:29.have asked you two questions today: The first question was did you
:12:30. > :12:34.commit yourself fully to the referendum? You didn't respond to
:12:35. > :12:37.that question. I asked you: What modelling the Welsh Government had
:12:38. > :12:41.undertaken to deal with the outcome of the referendum. Not the
:12:42. > :12:47.negotiations, the outcome of the referendum. Because there is
:12:48. > :12:50.interaction on a daily basis with organisations across Wales who have
:12:51. > :12:56.been supported by the Welsh Government and in receipt of
:12:57. > :13:00.European money. That is a perfectly reasonable question to ask, what
:13:01. > :13:04.preparer to work was -- work was put in place by the Welsh Government to
:13:05. > :13:08.deal with both evergeualities out of the referendum. You have not given
:13:09. > :13:11.me an answer on that. On the third question then, if I'm not getting
:13:12. > :13:16.answers from you today, will you reach out to all sections of
:13:17. > :13:19.political opinion to make sure that their views are represented in the
:13:20. > :13:24.negotiations going forward from Wales? Because clearly, from the
:13:25. > :13:29.parties in front of me, those views were not represented in the outcome
:13:30. > :13:34.of the referendum. It is important that all opinions are taken into
:13:35. > :13:38.account so that Wales' voice can be heard clearly, loudly and above all,
:13:39. > :13:42.making sure that the commitments we require are returned to Wales. That
:13:43. > :13:44.does mean that every penny that Wales is due is received here in
:13:45. > :13:55.Wales and spent here. I can quote his exact words. Why
:13:56. > :14:00.should the Welsh government handled the money? That is what he said. Why
:14:01. > :14:06.shouldn't the money comes straight from Westminster, bypassing the
:14:07. > :14:12.elect to legislator and the people of Wales? He has gone on about the
:14:13. > :14:16.need for Britain, as he put it, to enjoy is freedom and its
:14:17. > :14:21.sovereignty. He thinks it is pathetic that the people of Wales
:14:22. > :14:25.should not have access to the money they have access to now. He needs to
:14:26. > :14:30.start thinking as if he was Welsh and start looking at things from the
:14:31. > :14:34.Welsh perspective. He is in a different position from Ukip. You
:14:35. > :14:40.could have been saying every single penny should come to Wales and be
:14:41. > :14:44.spent in Wales. He isn't and it is about time we had some clever
:14:45. > :14:49.thinking from the Conservatives. I know people go to to leave and
:14:50. > :14:54.nothing will change that. He has no idea what happens next. We will be
:14:55. > :15:00.explaining the way forward as far as we are concerned. Bearing in mind
:15:01. > :15:05.what people have said, from our perspective, this is money that has
:15:06. > :15:08.been coming to Wales and money there should still come to Wales. That is
:15:09. > :15:19.the right of the Welsh people and are right that he does not respect.
:15:20. > :15:23.It is with a heavy heart that I scrutinise you today First Minister.
:15:24. > :15:28.I respond in full to the EU debate late on but it is important to focus
:15:29. > :15:32.on what you are responsible for now and in particular the delivery of
:15:33. > :15:38.public services despite the wider political turmoil. Can my first of
:15:39. > :15:42.all put on record that we should all condemn the reported increase in
:15:43. > :15:47.racist incidents since the referendum occurred. Racism has no
:15:48. > :15:55.place in Welsh society and I know you agree with me on that. Moving to
:15:56. > :16:00.the NHS. Our NHS benefits from a mixture of home-grown and
:16:01. > :16:04.international staff. 500 doctors from the European Union work within
:16:05. > :16:10.the Welsh NHS. Over coming weeks they will carry out operations,
:16:11. > :16:13.saving lives, healing the sick as though the referendum never
:16:14. > :16:18.happened. Kenny first of all tell us much extra money you will -- you
:16:19. > :16:24.would expect the Welsh NHS as a result of the veil made by the Leave
:16:25. > :16:29.campaign? Would you be prepared to communicate with all of our public
:16:30. > :16:33.service staff from other EU countries and tell them loudly and
:16:34. > :16:41.clearly that they are still welcome here in Wales? On the first
:16:42. > :16:47.question, she knows the answer. It is already unravelled. Those who
:16:48. > :16:53.professed it have said it is not what they meant. We will wait and
:16:54. > :16:58.see what they do when they get into government. I agree with what she
:16:59. > :17:04.says. Our NHS would not function without medical and nursing staff
:17:05. > :17:08.from other countries. It is vital that they are still welcome in Wales
:17:09. > :17:12.and I know she has said that strongly and I join her in that. So
:17:13. > :17:17.many citizens of other countries have delivered so much care and
:17:18. > :17:26.healing and treatment to so many of our people and they awoke in our.
:17:27. > :17:34.Thank you for that answer. -- they are welcome in our country. For
:17:35. > :17:40.Wales there is an additional risk to capital investment and to industry.
:17:41. > :17:43.The Southeast Metro is intended to be partly financed by European
:17:44. > :17:50.structural funds which may only be guaranteed up to 2020 if they are
:17:51. > :17:54.guaranteed at all. Can you tell us what will happen now to the south
:17:55. > :17:59.Wales Metro and the transport projects you have promised for the
:18:00. > :18:04.North of Wales as well and turning to industry, can you tell us what is
:18:05. > :18:09.likely to happen to Tata Steel and the future of Port Talbot as well as
:18:10. > :18:15.other Welsh steel-making plants? I wrote to the Prime Minister
:18:16. > :18:20.yesterday and asked him to guarantee every penny that we would lose to
:18:21. > :18:24.make sure that came to Wales. If that pledges on it, we can proceed
:18:25. > :18:28.with the Metro and other projects. If it is not honoured, there are
:18:29. > :18:33.substantial financial gaps in many projects that will benefit the
:18:34. > :18:39.people of Wales. I expect that promised to be honoured. On the
:18:40. > :18:44.issue of Tata Steel, it has created uncertainty, much more over the last
:18:45. > :18:50.few days. The car industry is holding back until it sees what a
:18:51. > :18:55.trade deal looks like. Tata Steel supplies many of the car
:18:56. > :18:58.manufacturers and the steel industry is in situation where it doesn't
:18:59. > :19:04.know what is happening. My view that Article 50 should be triggered
:19:05. > :19:07.sooner rather than later. Waiting months for that adds to that
:19:08. > :19:11.uncertainty. Better the people know where they stand rather than not
:19:12. > :19:15.knowing what will happen for many months and years. Uncertainty is
:19:16. > :19:18.never going to be helpful in terms of investment and that is why the
:19:19. > :19:23.process has to begin sooner rather than later and conclude as quickly
:19:24. > :19:28.as possible. Turning to the wider picture and the wider picture within
:19:29. > :19:34.the UK and further afield, I want to see arrangements put in place to
:19:35. > :19:37.protect Wales' constitutional status, legislation, funding,
:19:38. > :19:42.trading relationship with the rest of Europe while withdrawal takes
:19:43. > :19:48.place over the coming years. The UK Government is establishing a
:19:49. > :19:51.dedicated civil service unit to preside over Brexit. The Prime
:19:52. > :19:56.Minister has said that all devolved governments would be fully involved
:19:57. > :20:01.in the decision-making process over EU negotiations. We need to be
:20:02. > :20:04.clear. Last week's vote was not a vote to concentrate any additional
:20:05. > :20:09.powers at Westminster and pledges were made during that campaign to
:20:10. > :20:15.guarantee our funding. How will you move quickly now to secure the best
:20:16. > :20:20.possible deal for Wales in all of this turmoil and how will you work
:20:21. > :20:25.with others to salvage the situation for this country as best we can,
:20:26. > :20:32.especially given the chaos within the UK Government and your own party
:20:33. > :20:36.in Westminster? We have to have reassurance for business and I have
:20:37. > :20:39.asked the secretary to draw up a number of points that we can put to
:20:40. > :20:45.business to make sure we understand we see Wales is open for business.
:20:46. > :20:49.In terms of what the future holds, I welcome what the Prime Minister said
:20:50. > :20:52.in terms of Wales being involved but I know he can't speak for the next
:20:53. > :20:57.Prime Minister who might take a different view. Bearing that in
:20:58. > :21:01.mind, we will be establishing a specialist team in our Brussels
:21:02. > :21:05.office whose job it would be to talk and negotiate directly with the
:21:06. > :21:09.European Commission. That doesn't mean instead of working with the UK
:21:10. > :21:13.Government but we need to make sure Wales has a voice and a strong
:21:14. > :21:17.voice. We can't get away from the fact that Wales wanted to leave and
:21:18. > :21:22.there is no question we go behind the verdict of the electors but that
:21:23. > :21:26.doesn't mean we have to work hard to make sure Wales gets the best deal
:21:27. > :21:31.possible. We have to make sure we do that. I would not trust some of the
:21:32. > :21:34.people I have seen if they are in government to get the best deal for
:21:35. > :21:45.Wales and that is crucial we intend to do that. I don't expect you
:21:46. > :21:49.greeted the result with as much enthusiasm as I did but Wales did
:21:50. > :21:58.vote to leave the EU and a majority both in Bridgend and others voted to
:21:59. > :22:04.leave. The Welsh political establishment with uniformly in
:22:05. > :22:10.favour of remaining and all the AMs were in favour of remaining. What I
:22:11. > :22:14.am concerned to do is to look forward to the future and I
:22:15. > :22:18.reiterate what you said a minute ago that Ukip believes every single
:22:19. > :22:22.pound that the EU spends our British taxpayer's money in Wales at the
:22:23. > :22:27.minute should come to the Welsh government to be spent here. We will
:22:28. > :22:32.give you every support we can in this endeavour. Would it not be
:22:33. > :22:37.better therefore, in the spirit of co-operation which you started your
:22:38. > :22:41.Administration in this Assembly, to involve the leader of the
:22:42. > :22:45.Conservatives and myself in making the case for Wales with the UK
:22:46. > :22:50.Government because it will be strengthened with the added voices
:22:51. > :22:55.of those who actually were in favour of the result which the Welsh people
:22:56. > :23:01.voted for? My response is he is right. We saw the result and my
:23:02. > :23:04.response was the same as his party in 2011. To have a referendum in
:23:05. > :23:09.Wales when it was lost by your party. We have to accept it and we
:23:10. > :23:14.move on with the new political landscape. I have written to the
:23:15. > :23:19.Prime Minister and expect to get a response. The people of Wales have
:23:20. > :23:22.voted for a Welsh government to take forward that response. It is
:23:23. > :23:29.important that parties understand their positions as the negotiations
:23:30. > :23:37.proceed because what we cannot do is be in a position where a trade deal
:23:38. > :23:44.is on the table. It would be dangerous in the way people perceive
:23:45. > :23:47.the UK. I am happy to work on the way forward and the team we
:23:48. > :23:54.establishing Brussels will help us to do that. The First Minister will
:23:55. > :23:58.agree that this offers great opportunities for Wales. I
:23:59. > :24:02.appreciate he concentrated on the risks and uncertainties before the
:24:03. > :24:05.referendum campaign but now that we have the great opportunities which
:24:06. > :24:14.freedom of action gives us, we must capitalise on them and sell things
:24:15. > :24:18.in the wider world on that basis. I associate with what we have heard
:24:19. > :24:22.from the lead of Plaid Cymru with the devolution of power. We will now
:24:23. > :24:26.have the opportunity to take control of our policy on agriculture which
:24:27. > :24:31.means we can tailor to our own needs a policy to suit farmers in Wales
:24:32. > :24:35.rather than have to compromise their interests on account of the
:24:36. > :24:41.interests of farmers in 27 other countries in the EU. I'm grittier
:24:42. > :24:46.eight -- I reiterate my request to involve the other parties other than
:24:47. > :24:49.those in the compacts that have been agreed in these very important
:24:50. > :24:53.discussions which will take place in the course of the next two years, to
:24:54. > :24:57.make sure we get the best deal for Wales and the Welsh people out of
:24:58. > :25:02.this process. There will be involvement with all parties as
:25:03. > :25:06.those discussions continue. It is a sign of this strange alignment of
:25:07. > :25:10.politics and I am listening to the lead of Ukip being more
:25:11. > :25:13.devolutionary than the leader of the Conservatives. That is the irony of
:25:14. > :25:20.the situation. British agriculture won't exist. There is no British
:25:21. > :25:24.agricultural policy. It is the same with fisheries. After the
:25:25. > :25:29.negotiations are concluded, Welsh bowlers will only have access to
:25:30. > :25:33.Welsh Waters and there will be discussion between the different
:25:34. > :25:38.administrations on access which shouldn't be problematic. It is
:25:39. > :25:43.important and this is why I want to meet with representatives of the
:25:44. > :25:47.fishing and farming industry so we can start work on what Welsh
:25:48. > :25:52.agricultural policy looks like. That means it will be a policy designed
:25:53. > :25:56.to look after those hill farmers who struggle on the hills with difficult
:25:57. > :26:03.soil, difficult weather rather than those who do very well in areas of
:26:04. > :26:06.Wales that are easy to farm. It is hugely important that we design and
:26:07. > :26:11.agricultural policy that is specific to the needs of Wales and is
:26:12. > :26:18.tailored to the needs of Welsh farmers. That is something I will be
:26:19. > :26:23.working with in the farming unions in Wales. Will the First Minister
:26:24. > :26:27.condemn George Osborne it seems not to have realised that the referendum
:26:28. > :26:31.is over and he is still carrying on with project fear. It was announced
:26:32. > :26:33.they will be spending cuts in the automatic tax increases in the
:26:34. > :26:39.autumn because we have got to live within our means. This comes ill
:26:40. > :26:42.from the mouth of Britain's worst Chancellor in living memory who has
:26:43. > :26:48.doubled the national debt in five years and is still running a budget
:26:49. > :26:52.deficit of 60 or ?70 billion a year. There is no reason whatever arising
:26:53. > :26:56.out of the referendum to force the increases in taxes or spending cuts
:26:57. > :27:04.purely on account of the short-term volatility and financial markets
:27:05. > :27:08.which will shortly be resolved. The lead of Ukip is an optimist. He says
:27:09. > :27:15.there are advantages here. They are not immediately obvious. We are in a
:27:16. > :27:19.period of uncertainty and uncertainty is bad. 50% of what we
:27:20. > :27:23.export from Wales goes into the European Union and so the nature of
:27:24. > :27:28.the deal that we have with our market will be crucial to our future
:27:29. > :27:34.well-being. Until we know what that looks like, it is difficult to
:27:35. > :27:38.understand what the challenge is and that possibilities would be for
:27:39. > :27:43.Welsh business. Businesses are holding back on investment until
:27:44. > :27:48.they get that certainty. One way or another there must be certainty. I
:27:49. > :27:53.do not think that within many months, to begin the formal
:27:54. > :27:56.negotiation process, our four years before there is a final decision is
:27:57. > :28:01.in the interest of businesses. It must be taken forward now as quickly
:28:02. > :28:05.as is reasonably practicable and there has to be a deal on the table
:28:06. > :28:10.that should be ratified with the national parliaments at least. There
:28:11. > :28:14.will be a difficult process but bluntly, the need for certainty for
:28:15. > :28:17.our businesses is absolutely paramount. They will not invest
:28:18. > :28:19.until they have an idea of what the endgame looks like and we are a long
:28:20. > :28:26.way from that. What action will the Welsh
:28:27. > :28:32.Government take to improve treatment of cancer in Wales in the next 12
:28:33. > :28:36.months, please? We will continue to progress the ?200 million programme
:28:37. > :28:42.for transforming cancer treatment in the south-east of Wales. Develop the
:28:43. > :28:47.plans for a new treatment fund and develop an all Wales cancer delivery
:28:48. > :28:52.plan. Cancer Research UK has said there has a been a dramatic rise
:28:53. > :28:58.with the number of people diagnosed with the most serious form of skin
:28:59. > :29:06.cancer in the last 40 years. The National Institute of health and
:29:07. > :29:11.cancer excellence has approved a pair of cancer drugs for use in
:29:12. > :29:16.England, which when used in combination shrank the most
:29:17. > :29:22.aggressive of deadly type of skin cancer by 69%. Could the First
:29:23. > :29:25.Minister advise the Assembly if this therapy and drug will be made
:29:26. > :29:31.available in Wales as soon as possible? Malignant melanoma is a
:29:32. > :29:36.disease I know well. It took my mother's life. It is a hugely
:29:37. > :29:41.invasive cancer. If it spreads, there is no way, hitherto, there is
:29:42. > :29:44.no way to stop. It as soon as a drug is approved, the money will be
:29:45. > :29:53.available to roll out that drug across the whole of Wales.
:29:54. > :29:57.First Minister, we know the importance of healthy lifestyle
:29:58. > :30:01.choices in reducing the risks of cancer. It's good to see from the
:30:02. > :30:06.results of the Welsh health survey 2015 that the number of smokers in
:30:07. > :30:10.Wales has decreased from 26% to 19% of the population. Also meaning that
:30:11. > :30:14.the Welsh Government has exceeded its target for reducing smoking
:30:15. > :30:18.rates. The revisited public Health Bill offers another opportunity to
:30:19. > :30:22.promote healthy life styles and raise awareness of screening in
:30:23. > :30:25.tackling cancer. Will the Welsh Government consider this when it
:30:26. > :30:30.brings forward its fresh legislation? The public Health Bill
:30:31. > :30:34.is designed to tackle the the underlying causes of ill health.
:30:35. > :30:39.Smoking still persists as one of the major causes of death and ill health
:30:40. > :30:43.in Wales. That's why we want to proceed as quickly as possible with
:30:44. > :30:49.a public Health Bill and I will give more details in the legislative
:30:50. > :30:53.statement later this afternoon. First Minister, the most exciting
:30:54. > :30:57.development in the treatment of cancer in recent times has been the
:30:58. > :31:01.development of VATified medicines, where treatment is personalised to
:31:02. > :31:06.the patient based upon the genetic make up of their particular cancer.
:31:07. > :31:11.I was deeply concerned to learn that in Wales we test for just two
:31:12. > :31:15.genetic markers. Will your Government develop a ratified
:31:16. > :31:19.medicine strategy and ensure that the all Wales genetic service is
:31:20. > :31:23.equipped to test for all genetic markers in cancer patients? It's
:31:24. > :31:28.true that the big change in cancer treatment over the next decade will
:31:29. > :31:33.be specific treatment for those with particular DNA. We hugely fortunate
:31:34. > :31:36.in the sense that we have the Wales cancer genetic centre, Nobel Prize
:31:37. > :31:42.winning knowledge. I've certainly been there. They are developing more
:31:43. > :31:45.tests as they come along. At the moment, there are particular tests
:31:46. > :31:49.that are used. There are other that's will develop over the course
:31:50. > :31:52.of time, make it far easier for treatment to be tailored to the
:31:53. > :31:58.individual. For example, there are some drugs known to be damaging to
:31:59. > :32:02.some people on a chance of 500-1. Until now there have been no tests
:32:03. > :32:05.to make sure that a particular person is not one of those people
:32:06. > :32:09.who could be particularly badly affected by that drug. As these
:32:10. > :32:18.tests develop more and more people will have athe chance of a better
:32:19. > :32:25.outcome. Could I add my agreement to comments made by members in the
:32:26. > :32:30.chamber about condemning racism. Sorry, but could I say, we need to
:32:31. > :32:35.send a message strongly regardless of the vote last week... You need to
:32:36. > :32:39.ask a question. My apologies. Will the First Minister make a statement
:32:40. > :32:44.on the potential impact of the Cardiff capital region on the
:32:45. > :32:48.Bridgend travel to work area? I can say in the Cardiff capital region
:32:49. > :32:53.that collaboration is driving forward our priorities in transport
:32:54. > :32:56.that. Means driving forward improvements for Bridgend as well. I
:32:57. > :33:01.know the member will have a particular interest in ensuring that
:33:02. > :33:06.the three valleys he represents are regularly connected to the rail and
:33:07. > :33:10.bus network for the south. Thank you First Minister. My apologies, I have
:33:11. > :33:16.obviously a lot to learn in this chamber. Could I briefly add my
:33:17. > :33:21.comments to those who have condemned racism. We need to mean, it the
:33:22. > :33:25.utterances by politicians are important and so are the actions of
:33:26. > :33:30.the tabloid media at the UK level as well. We should be welcoming of
:33:31. > :33:33.those who are currently working in the public services and private
:33:34. > :33:37.sector who are today somewhat a little bit more fearful. In terms of
:33:38. > :33:41.the Cardiff capital region, together with the South Wales mept row,
:33:42. > :33:46.potential future improvements to rail and major highways improvements
:33:47. > :33:52.in my constituency and throughout Wales, together with apprenticeships
:33:53. > :33:55.and training in my local area, all of them were predicated to some
:33:56. > :34:00.extent large or small on EU funding. Would he agree with me that it is
:34:01. > :34:04.now incumbent on political and party leaders, including the leader of the
:34:05. > :34:08.Conservative Party here today, who made clear pledges that this money
:34:09. > :34:13.would be returning to the people of Wales to make good that short fall
:34:14. > :34:17.that we'll now face, not a penny piece should be taken from my
:34:18. > :34:21.constituents or from the people of Wales, we expect it to be here. Does
:34:22. > :34:26.he agree that it is slightly odd and disconcerting that we do not have
:34:27. > :34:30.unanimity in this chamber amongst the party lowereds that all that
:34:31. > :34:35.money should be coming back to the people of Wales to decide what
:34:36. > :34:41.happens with it? I heard people on the doorstep. I heard members in the
:34:42. > :34:44.chamber say whenever we talked about European projects that they said
:34:45. > :34:48.it's our money. People said it on the doorstep to me. It is our money.
:34:49. > :34:52.It's the money that people -- of the people of Wales. It's not the money
:34:53. > :34:55.to be decided to be given to Wales on a bhim by the Treasury, as the
:34:56. > :35:00.leader of the Welsh Conservatives has said today. He has said why
:35:01. > :35:05.should the Welsh - I'll quote him, why should the Welsh Government
:35:06. > :35:09.handle the money. It's the lead story on the BBC website. You can
:35:10. > :35:12.see his comments on the BBC Wales website. It is absolutely crucial
:35:13. > :35:16.that money comes to the people of Wales and to their elected
:35:17. > :35:20.Government and legislature to decide how to spend. It is not for the UK
:35:21. > :35:30.Treasury to take that decision on behalf of the elected Parliament of
:35:31. > :35:36.Wales. South Wales west members will be aware of the need for an eastern
:35:37. > :35:42.bypass for the communities of Llanharan. I hope that will be part
:35:43. > :35:45.of the plans for Cardiff capital region and the infrastructure
:35:46. > :35:49.project. It's the heads of the eastern valleys in my region which
:35:50. > :35:53.are more difficult for the population to get the opportunities
:35:54. > :35:56.from potential city region plans and the measurements of distance on the
:35:57. > :35:59.map are meaningful if you don't have the transport infrastructure to
:36:00. > :36:03.reach those communities. What are you doing tone sure that the city
:36:04. > :36:07.board region speaks to businesses and the local authority about
:36:08. > :36:10.ensuring that the travel to work area includes the heads of those
:36:11. > :36:14.valleys in my region? Absolutely it's crucial. The point about the
:36:15. > :36:17.Metro is that yes, it will make it easier for people to travel to
:36:18. > :36:21.cities like Cardiff to work, but also, easier for investment to
:36:22. > :36:25.travel up valleys as well. One of the issues that we face investors
:36:26. > :36:30.say, it's far away, this community. I don't want that to be the case in
:36:31. > :36:33.the future. That's why the Metro is proposed. I know a lot of members
:36:34. > :36:39.have concentrated on the rail map, but the bus map is hugely important
:36:40. > :36:43.as well. If we look at the three valleys, west has a railway line.
:36:44. > :36:50.One might have a railway line, still, if the future. And one lost
:36:51. > :36:53.its railway line in 1984. For those communities, obviously a bus option
:36:54. > :36:59.will be what we're looking at. It will be an option that connects
:37:00. > :37:02.properly not just with the long distance coaches, but also with
:37:03. > :37:06.Bridgend railway station to make sure that people are connected as
:37:07. > :37:11.much as possible to where the jobs are and for investment to come up,
:37:12. > :37:20.to follow those routes up to those communities. Will the First Minister
:37:21. > :37:25.make a statement on GP recruitment in Wales. GP recruitment is a
:37:26. > :37:29.priority for us. We are talking to GP representatives across Wales and
:37:30. > :37:35.are developing new models of care that will be attractive for GPs to
:37:36. > :37:41.work in. Thank you, First Minister. The Royal College of General GPs
:37:42. > :37:46.tell us that we need 400 fulltime equivalent GPs by 2020. If we are to
:37:47. > :37:50.provide good access for all primary care. It is concerning therefore
:37:51. > :37:57.that we're training just over 100 GPs a year in Wales and just 13% of
:37:58. > :38:00.trainee doctors spend any time in general practice. What will your
:38:01. > :38:09.Government do during the fifth Assembly to train more GPs in Wales?
:38:10. > :38:13.We have 2,887 GPs, which is 8% up since 2005. That shows that we've
:38:14. > :38:18.been investing in GPs. It's not just about GPs. It's the whole primary
:38:19. > :38:23.care workforce that's important. Yes, we're training GPs but we have
:38:24. > :38:27.to - we will never train enough GPs purely to work in Wales. It's been
:38:28. > :38:30.many decades since we recruited GPs entirely from within Wales. We have
:38:31. > :38:34.recruited from other countries. That will continue to be the case.
:38:35. > :38:37.Because medicine is an international, portable
:38:38. > :38:40.qualification. It's a question of training GPs, yes, that's true. I
:38:41. > :38:45.understand the importance of that. But also continuing to ensure that
:38:46. > :38:50.qualified medical staff see Wales as an attractive place to live and work
:38:51. > :38:54.in. TRANSLATION: Would the First
:38:55. > :39:01.Minister agree with me that at present there is a lack of status in
:39:02. > :39:07.being a GP and that includes the external image of the nature of the
:39:08. > :39:10.job and also, within the profession, would the First Minister agree with
:39:11. > :39:15.me that as part of the contribution to tackling the recruitment issue
:39:16. > :39:21.that we could look at issues such as ensuring that students at 16 and 17
:39:22. > :39:25.years old are appealed directly to go into general practice
:39:26. > :39:28.specifically rather than just into medicine more generally and that
:39:29. > :39:32.there is pressure to ensure there is a higher status and more prestige to
:39:33. > :39:39.training to be a GP within wider medical training.
:39:40. > :39:44.TRANSLATION: Well, surgeons with have a very different view on that.
:39:45. > :39:47.But I understand the point. It's extremely important that we also
:39:48. > :39:54.realise that the nature of the workforce is changing. There are
:39:55. > :40:01.fewer and fewer people want to buy into a practice. They want more
:40:02. > :40:05.freedom to move across Wales. They don't want to commit funding into a
:40:06. > :40:09.practice. Some still do. Others don't. So what's important is that
:40:10. > :40:13.we have sufficient number of models available in Wales that will appeal
:40:14. > :40:17.to the greatest number of general practitioners in order to ensure
:40:18. > :40:20.that there are ways of working that suit them, rather than thinking
:40:21. > :40:24.there's just one way of working, which has been the same one for many
:40:25. > :40:26.years. We must ensure there's a structure that's broad in order to
:40:27. > :40:31.recruit more people. ( recruit more people.
:40:32. > :40:35.TRANSLATION: What assessment has the First Minister made of the European
:40:36. > :40:38.Union referendum result? TRANSLATION: A number, well of
:40:39. > :40:44.course, the decision has been taken and that decision must be respected.
:40:45. > :40:49.Our priority as a Government now will be to secure the future of the
:40:50. > :40:54.people of Wales in order to ensure that future is a prosperous one.
:40:55. > :40:57.TRANSLATION: Would you agree with me that the only way forward that would
:40:58. > :41:03.respect the decision made by the people of Wales in last week's
:41:04. > :41:07.referendum and also, gives the Welsh economy and Welsh businesses and
:41:08. > :41:12.communities a decent chance is that we remain members of the single
:41:13. > :41:17.market, that we remain members of the European Economic Area and that
:41:18. > :41:24.we then proceed along those lines. Because last week's vote didn't
:41:25. > :41:29.outline or didn't make any decision as to what sort of exit was being
:41:30. > :41:32.considered. If you agree with me, what steps are you taking and you
:41:33. > :41:36.have outlined the work in Brussels. You have told us what you can do
:41:37. > :41:42.jointly with the Westminster Government. Will you be pressing for
:41:43. > :41:45.that in Wales and will you, in so doing, you will have my support and
:41:46. > :41:50.Plaid Cymru's support. TRANSLATION: As I said earlier, a
:41:51. > :41:55.specialist team is going to be located in the Brussels office in
:41:56. > :41:59.order to ensure that they're able to negotiate with the European
:42:00. > :42:04.institutions in order to ensure that the voice of Wales is listened to.
:42:05. > :42:08.We are part of the British system, but it's extremely important that we
:42:09. > :42:13.have our own reach into the European institutions in order to ensure that
:42:14. > :42:21.Wales doesn't lose out and that is what we intend doing. I cannot say,
:42:22. > :42:25.I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to have access to
:42:26. > :42:30.the single market because so many businesses in Wales are dependent on
:42:31. > :42:40.that. The worst case scenario would be for us to return to the system
:42:41. > :42:44.where the WTO system, 10% on cars, 15% on food stuffs that. Would be
:42:45. > :42:47.the worst case scenario for Wales. We hope there'll be something better
:42:48. > :42:52.on the table. But there's a great deal of work to be done before that.
:42:53. > :42:56.I'm sure the First Minister will appreciate that members will want to
:42:57. > :42:59.ensure the best outcomes for their constituencies. It's what we're
:43:00. > :43:05.elected to do. I'm no different to that. I'm going to be taking this
:43:06. > :43:10.opportunity to join the call for assurances for my own constituency,
:43:11. > :43:14.which is Merthyr Tydfil, a constituency which has been a major
:43:15. > :43:20.beneficiary of EU funding. It's helped a number of projects of
:43:21. > :43:24.significant benefit to the local economy and communities. However,
:43:25. > :43:28.it's not just the funding for the existing projects that are important
:43:29. > :43:35.to my constituency. It's the proposed developments such as the
:43:36. > :43:40.next stage of the dualing of the heads of the valley, which will be
:43:41. > :43:45.crucial to the economic, the economy of the constituency. Whilst I've
:43:46. > :43:51.noted that you have confirmed and I welcome that, that in any discussion
:43:52. > :43:54.was Brexit negotiators you'll seek absolute assurance that's Wales will
:43:55. > :43:58.receive no less funding from Brexit than we received prior to. Can I
:43:59. > :44:02.seek further assurances that the financial support that you will be
:44:03. > :44:09.seeking, the financial support necessary for the dualing of the A
:44:10. > :44:13.465 and you will hold them to account if this is not delivered.
:44:14. > :44:17.Absolutely. If the money is not made up by the UK Government, then it
:44:18. > :44:22.follows logically that we won't be able to fund many of the projects
:44:23. > :44:29.that are currently planned to be funded by European money. Because we
:44:30. > :44:32.don't have that money. Without that money, many projects beyond the
:44:33. > :44:37.period when the UK's left the European Union will not be able to
:44:38. > :44:41.be funded unless that guarantee is forth coming. That is crucial for
:44:42. > :44:44.our future. It's why I wrote to the Prime Minister yesterday in order to
:44:45. > :44:48.get the guarantee that was put on the table. That means making sure
:44:49. > :44:52.that Wales loses out not a penny. Not a penny, as a result of the
:44:53. > :44:56.referendum last Thursday, regardless of how people voted, I do not
:44:57. > :45:01.believe anybody voted for Wales to have less money.
:45:02. > :45:09.The Welsh economy is the most exposed in the UK to any possible
:45:10. > :45:13.downturn in trade in the EU or declining investment seeking access
:45:14. > :45:19.to the single market. This has to be made known to those responsible for
:45:20. > :45:24.the Brexit negotiations. It is true because we know there are many
:45:25. > :45:29.companies in Wales who are here solely because of the access they
:45:30. > :45:34.get on the single market. If they lose access, free access, they still
:45:35. > :45:39.will be able to sell, but it is the terms of trade that are important.
:45:40. > :45:42.If you are a company that has bases in the UK and other European
:45:43. > :45:47.countries, if you find one manufacturing plant in the UK is to
:45:48. > :45:53.have a five to 10% tariff and others are not, it is not going to take a
:45:54. > :45:57.genius to work out where the investment will come from. We have
:45:58. > :46:03.to have no tariff barriers and our biggest export market which is the
:46:04. > :46:09.EU. The Welsh government have to tackle gambling addiction Wales. We
:46:10. > :46:16.can seek powers to regulate fixed odds betting machines and we support
:46:17. > :46:22.moves to increase the powers. People suffering with gambling addiction
:46:23. > :46:27.can get advice and support through their GPs or gamblers anonymous.
:46:28. > :46:31.Gambling addiction can lead to tough emotional, financial and side conch
:46:32. > :46:35.-- psychological problems which are not of a visible until it has
:46:36. > :46:40.reached crisis point. Early intervention and support is crucial.
:46:41. > :46:44.The pioneering gambling risk and harm pilots carried out by Newport
:46:45. > :46:48.Citizens Advice Bureau has highlighted the education of young
:46:49. > :46:55.people is key to reducing the impact of gambling related harm. What plans
:46:56. > :47:00.has the Welsh government got to make sure it has the same attention as
:47:01. > :47:06.other addictions? It is hugely important that people see gambling
:47:07. > :47:12.as an addiction, which it is. In the same way that people see alcoholism
:47:13. > :47:18.as an addiction, drugs as an addiction. We are looking at ways in
:47:19. > :47:21.which we can ensure fire our education system, that people
:47:22. > :47:25.understand the dangers of gambling. It will be helpful from our
:47:26. > :47:33.perspective or if we saw the devolution of powers in order that
:47:34. > :47:37.they might be better regulated. I am pleased to hear you want to use the
:47:38. > :47:43.regulatory powers which are available to curb problem gambling
:47:44. > :47:49.in society. Around one in 50 men now are deemed to be gambling addicts
:47:50. > :47:52.and that is very concerning and can have damaging effects on society. Do
:47:53. > :48:02.you share the concern that has been expressed by those present at the
:48:03. > :48:06.Cardiff conference, Beat The Odds, that there was insufficient work
:48:07. > :48:12.being done to help gambling adducts in Wales. We have support here in
:48:13. > :48:17.Cardiff and another charity which is Wales wide. Those are not available
:48:18. > :48:21.in all parts of Wales as yet and there is an opportunity to develop
:48:22. > :48:27.them. What work with your government do to ensure there is equal access
:48:28. > :48:31.to such services in the future? The financial inclusion strategy will
:48:32. > :48:37.look at how we can overlook further ways of helping people to deal with
:48:38. > :48:43.gambling. Not long ago betting shops were behind closed doors and opaque
:48:44. > :48:48.windows. Now it is everywhere. For those of us with the continuing
:48:49. > :48:53.interest in the European Championship, we see every advert
:48:54. > :48:57.where people are encouraged to cash in before it is finished. There are
:48:58. > :49:06.fantastic opportunities for the gambling industry and for people to
:49:07. > :49:11.become more addicted to gambling. That was First Minister's Questions.
:49:12. > :49:20.If you want more coverage you can go online to our Senedd life page. That
:49:21. > :49:22.is it for First Minister's Questions. We will be back next
:49:23. > :49:27.week. Goodbye. I've brought you all here
:49:28. > :49:29.to lay out a vision - a team of radio presenters
:49:30. > :49:31.without equal. Actually, we're already...
:49:32. > :49:34.Wynne Evans - singer, raconteur. I'm betting you'd also
:49:35. > :49:36.be funny on radio. But what about your
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:49:41. > :49:43.Jason Mohammad, you've nailed TV think of the guests you could chat
:49:44. > :49:49.with if only you were on radio. Owen Money, no-one works
:49:50. > :49:53.an audience like you. Together, you'll create
:49:54. > :49:58.the greatest radio team of all.