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:00:21. > :00:24.Good morning, and welcome to am.pm. We've got a Westminster happy hour

:00:24. > :00:27.for you today - we'll shortly be going off to the Commons for Welsh

:00:27. > :00:31.and Prime Minister's Questions, and later on, we'll be finding out

:00:31. > :00:33.what's happening in the Assembly. And I'm pleased to say that I'll be

:00:33. > :00:40.joined throughout the programme by two AMs: Labour's Mick Antoniw and

:00:40. > :00:49.Plaid Cymru's Bethan Jenkins. Before we go to the Commons, though,

:00:49. > :00:57.let's look ahead to what we might see and hear. What kind of things

:00:57. > :01:03.do you think will crop up? Welfare reform, and the impact of VAT on

:01:03. > :01:13.jobs. I suspect that the NHS privatisation in England will beat

:01:13. > :01:15.

:01:15. > :01:21.AM issue. That has been a recurring issue. There were noises from Lib

:01:21. > :01:26.Dems. Are they going to scupper the Government's plans? There are many

:01:26. > :01:30.concerns from the Lib Dems. There have been a group who have been

:01:30. > :01:38.voting against the Government strongly. Conference season is

:01:38. > :01:47.coming up, meaning there will be more vocal representations of those

:01:47. > :01:53.views. There are other issues, such as health in England. That has an

:01:53. > :01:57.impact on health in Wales, as opposed. Also, or welfare reforms.

:01:57. > :02:02.We heard from Leighton Andrews giving a warning that Welsh

:02:02. > :02:10.children could be plunged into poverty as a result of welfare cuts.

:02:10. > :02:20.That affect swells as well, doesn't it? Absolutely, especially as

:02:20. > :02:21.

:02:21. > :02:27.regards health. It is very important, the knock-on effect of

:02:28. > :02:35.the health bill. Housing benefits and disability benefits are set to

:02:35. > :02:40.be very hurt by the process as well. The Welsh government has a very

:02:40. > :02:47.strong stance against these reforms. It is coming up to St David's Day.

:02:47. > :02:54.Do you think there or be a jolly atmosphere during Welsh Questions?

:02:54. > :02:59.-- there will be. There are serious issues as well. We are still

:02:59. > :03:04.waiting for her that bank holiday on St David's Day. That a decision

:03:04. > :03:13.still lies with at Westminster, unfortunately. But I AM sure there

:03:13. > :03:23.will be jovial talk. Where do you stand on the bank holiday for St

:03:23. > :03:26.

:03:26. > :03:35.David's Day? I supported, but the St David's Day should be big day

:03:35. > :03:38.within Wales. There opportunities and benefits there. Looking ahead

:03:38. > :03:47.to Prime Minister's Questions, I think this is the first time we

:03:47. > :03:52.have had John the sofa. Ken USS how Ed Miliband has been performing --

:03:52. > :03:58.Kang USS? I think it is true he has been progressing. What people

:03:58. > :04:03.forget is that this is a particular learning experience for new readers.

:04:03. > :04:08.David Cameron, who performs well, when he started off, there were all

:04:08. > :04:18.sorts of questions about it. But he learned that the job. He has got to

:04:18. > :04:20.

:04:20. > :04:28.be himself more. We will see how they are getting on in the Commons.

:04:28. > :04:35.Work and too happy hour. I AM committed to working with UK TIA,

:04:35. > :04:39.the Welsh government and others, to improve levels of inward investment.

:04:39. > :04:43.The Welsh Affairs come at -- the Welsh Affairs Select Committee

:04:43. > :04:50.highlights important issues, but in particular, the need for joint

:04:50. > :04:54.working between this government and the Welsh government. Does my

:04:54. > :05:00.honourable friend not only welcomed you Welsh Affairs Select Committee

:05:00. > :05:03.report, particularly the point it makes for their need for the

:05:03. > :05:12.Government to engage more positively with the UK government

:05:12. > :05:14.to attract investment into Wales? Can I reassure my honourable friend

:05:14. > :05:19.that I certainly welcome the sterling work which has been done

:05:19. > :05:24.by the Welsh Affairs Select Committee. It was, indeed, at a

:05:24. > :05:29.unanimous report. It highlights areas that must be addressed by the

:05:29. > :05:35.UK government and the Welsh government. I recently met with the

:05:35. > :05:39.chief executive of UK t i to discuss the response. I have always

:05:39. > :05:43.said but I want to encourage closer working between the Welsh

:05:43. > :05:51.government and the UK government, particularly in the light of some

:05:51. > :05:59.disappointing figures in Wales. this Secretary of State

:05:59. > :06:05.congratulate the Labour government? I have always said that politicians,

:06:05. > :06:15.of all parties, should co-operate to bring inward investment into the

:06:15. > :06:20.

:06:20. > :06:25.UK and Wales. I have great pleasure in congratulating individuals.

:06:25. > :06:35.the Secretary of State believe that restoring investment into Wales is

:06:35. > :06:39.

:06:39. > :06:48.good? I think... I think, Mr Speaker, these remarks have

:06:48. > :06:52.temporarily put me off my stride! Can I just to say that the

:06:52. > :07:02.honourable lady is absolutely right. The branding is exceedingly

:07:02. > :07:03.

:07:03. > :07:07.important, and there is no doubt that in looking at the report, the

:07:07. > :07:12.WDA's it represented that great brand folk Wales which was well

:07:12. > :07:16.known across the world. Many would like to bring it back. That is

:07:16. > :07:20.something worth considering in another form, may be, but there is

:07:20. > :07:27.no doubt the branding is an important aspect of marketing in

:07:27. > :07:37.Wales. Could I joined the Secretary of State dinner marking St David's

:07:37. > :07:42.

:07:42. > :07:47.Day? Since... I AM sure she will have no trouble in doing that.

:07:47. > :07:54.Since coming to office, how much inward investment house she and her

:07:54. > :08:01.government help bring to Wales? First of all, can I just say what a

:08:01. > :08:11.magnificent victory in the rugby! It brought a tear in a goal's eye.

:08:11. > :08:12.

:08:12. > :08:17.As far as the match on Sunday were concerned, they were robbed. Inward

:08:17. > :08:23.investment is devolved to the Labour Welsh Assembly Government.

:08:23. > :08:28.As the honourable gentleman should know, and since I came into

:08:28. > :08:36.government, I have met with delegations from Taiwan, China,

:08:36. > :08:42.Turkey, Japan and Russia, promoting Wales's inward investment decision,

:08:42. > :08:47.and I launched the first trade mission to Bangladesh, led by the

:08:47. > :08:50.Chamber of Commerce. I stress that I think it needs to be a

:08:50. > :08:54.partnership between the UK government and the Welsh government,

:08:54. > :09:04.because when making inward investment decisions, companies are

:09:04. > :09:04.

:09:04. > :09:10.looking at the UK as a whole, we need to give reasons to go to Wales.

:09:10. > :09:15.Can I thank her for that? I would also like to remind her in the 15

:09:15. > :09:25.months since the Government's spending review, the UK economy has

:09:25. > :09:28.

:09:28. > :09:34.grown by a miserable not 0.2%. -- 0.2%. This collapse has massive

:09:34. > :09:44.leap damaged inward investment and jobs in Wales. Isn't it time her

:09:44. > :09:50.

:09:50. > :09:54.government changed course? The Tories are hammering Wales. I AM

:09:54. > :10:03.taking note lessons from the honourable gentleman. Particularly

:10:03. > :10:06.since we came to government, we are investing �1 billion. We are

:10:06. > :10:11.putting in �60 million into broadband, and quite frankly, I

:10:11. > :10:14.think it is important that governments worked together. If the

:10:14. > :10:20.First Minister goes on a delegation and brings back business to Wales,

:10:20. > :10:29.I will be delighted. But we should be working together, and for his

:10:29. > :10:33.information, we will be sticking to plan a. This is a question about

:10:33. > :10:38.tariffs. We are continuing to consult and engage with the solar

:10:38. > :10:43.industry. There are a number of key innovative businesses in the solar

:10:43. > :10:47.industry, and we are committed to ensuring they have a prosperous

:10:47. > :10:54.future. According to the Department of Climate Change, the industry is

:10:54. > :10:58.likely to shrink by a one third. Directly, as a result, up of the

:10:58. > :11:05.Government policies he has supported. How many of those jobs

:11:05. > :11:11.will be lost in Wales? Has this been a hash from start to finish?

:11:11. > :11:17.would say that it is that a hash at its inception. The scheme put in

:11:17. > :11:22.place by the Government was poorly designed, it lacked flexibility to

:11:22. > :11:26.respond to changes in the cost of installation and price of

:11:26. > :11:30.electricity. The measures the Government is putting in place in

:11:30. > :11:37.response to the consultation will provide consumers with a proper

:11:37. > :11:42.rate of return, the sort of that rate of return originally envisaged.

:11:42. > :11:47.Does he agree the important thing is that there is a fair return? As

:11:47. > :11:57.a result of that, both Italy and France, and then the last week,

:11:57. > :11:57.

:11:57. > :12:03.Germany, have significantly changed their tariffs? Yes, of course. That

:12:03. > :12:09.underlines the fact the scheme was poorly designed from the start. The

:12:09. > :12:17.proposals will provide a fair rate of return. But this policy has

:12:17. > :12:27.actually shattered business confidence in Wales. We are set for

:12:27. > :12:27.

:12:27. > :12:33.advances and the Green economy, but who will invest?. This is a key

:12:33. > :12:37.industry in Wales. I think that the honourable gentleman's criticism

:12:37. > :12:41.should be directed at the previous government. The measures this

:12:41. > :12:48.Government have put in place will ensure stability, their rate of

:12:48. > :12:51.return and restore confidence to manufacturers. I hear what the

:12:51. > :12:57.Minister says, but Kenny guarantee that this mess will not happen

:12:57. > :13:04.again? Will we be able to develop further Green Technology in Wales

:13:04. > :13:09.where we are well placed to? We need to develop these industries.

:13:09. > :13:15.When he assured her house we will not have this kind of mess again,

:13:15. > :13:18.which undermines confidence in the whole sector? I agree that this

:13:18. > :13:22.sector is extremely important to the Welsh economy, but I AM afraid

:13:22. > :13:32.it has been at left to the Conservative Party to clear-up

:13:32. > :13:34.

:13:34. > :13:42.Labour's mess. After the news this week that big investors in wind

:13:42. > :13:47.energy are threatening to take remit jobs aboard, how will the

:13:47. > :13:53.Minister convince companies to invest in the manufacture of

:13:53. > :13:59.renewable energy in Wales, securing jobs and reducing our dependence on

:13:59. > :14:03.gas and oil? The Government's response to the consultation does

:14:04. > :14:07.just that - it provide a sustainable framework for the

:14:07. > :14:17.industry to go ahead, and for investors do have a proper rate of

:14:17. > :14:23.

:14:23. > :14:26.return. This is about the way the railways are organised. I AM aware

:14:26. > :14:36.that the honourable gentleman has spoken to my colleague only

:14:36. > :14:39.

:14:39. > :14:44.recently. He would have recognised that the Welsh government is

:14:44. > :14:49.showing a capacity for innovation and bringing co-operative

:14:49. > :14:54.principles to bear. Would it not be a good idea to take the party's

:14:54. > :15:04.ideas for the railway services in and around Wales, to be accountable

:15:04. > :15:08.

:15:08. > :15:14.to the travelling public? What he The proposals are helpful

:15:14. > :15:18.contribution to the idea about how we manage our transport structure.

:15:18. > :15:21.The government is presently considering its response to the

:15:21. > :15:25.McNulty review which has identified ways to make the railways more

:15:25. > :15:30.efficient and affordable in the longer term.

:15:30. > :15:33.Rather than setting up a consumer mutual with all the concerns about

:15:34. > :15:37.accountability to all the people of Wales, will the government

:15:37. > :15:41.considered the utility of transferring responsibility for all

:15:41. > :15:46.railways in Wales to be directly elected democratic body, the Welsh

:15:46. > :15:50.government? That is not currently on the agenda,

:15:50. > :15:54.but no doubt the Honourable Gentleman will be making us a

:15:54. > :16:01.representations to the sub commission.

:16:01. > :16:05.Questions about the burden on business.

:16:05. > :16:09.I have regular discussions with ministerial colleagues, the First

:16:09. > :16:14.Minister and other organisations on reducing the regulatory burden on

:16:14. > :16:19.businesses and the public in Wales. I thank the Minister for that reply.

:16:19. > :16:22.Did she agree while some decisions are devolved, it is vital the Welsh

:16:22. > :16:29.government doesn't introduce any measures which are seen as a

:16:29. > :16:33.disincentive to invest in Wales? My Honourable Friend is absolutely

:16:33. > :16:38.right and I quite agree. We have to be very careful when we send

:16:38. > :16:44.signals to business that we sent signals that government, whether it

:16:44. > :16:50.is UK or Welsh, is on its side. We must not place any more berries in

:16:50. > :16:59.a way of businesses creating jobs in Wales. -- barriers. -- in the

:16:59. > :17:03.way. Am sure the financial-services industry in Wales would have been

:17:03. > :17:08.daunted. This government is scrapping new

:17:08. > :17:13.regulations that would have cost businesses over �350 million per

:17:13. > :17:17.year and radically reforming the planning system England. Whilst

:17:17. > :17:19.decisions I have devolved to the Welsh government, would my

:17:19. > :17:24.honourable friend like to see Labour ministers in Cardiff

:17:24. > :17:28.following suit? Yes, we are aiming to be the most

:17:28. > :17:33.business-friendly government in history. And certainly scrapping

:17:33. > :17:36.new regulations and with the red tape challenge, we have thrown down

:17:36. > :17:41.the gauntlet to all those organisations that put barriers in

:17:42. > :17:47.a way of business. I did write to the First Minister about that some

:17:47. > :17:51.time ago. I am still waiting to have a response from him but I am

:17:51. > :18:00.sure he would share my sentiments that we need to encourage business,

:18:00. > :18:07.not stifle it. At the time unemployment is at a 17

:18:07. > :18:13.year high. Is the decision of the government to actually withdraw

:18:13. > :18:16.working tax benefits from low-paid part-time workers example of

:18:16. > :18:21.reducing administrative burdens or is it kicking someone after they

:18:21. > :18:25.have been thrown on the ground? I hope the Honourable Gentleman has

:18:26. > :18:31.noticed that in creating the most competitive tax regime in the G20,

:18:31. > :18:36.which is the aim of the Treasury, we have also been taking the lowest

:18:36. > :18:42.paid tax and that will make a great difference to families and

:18:42. > :18:46.individuals right across the United Kingdom as well as in Wales.

:18:46. > :18:50.But John Longworth, the director- general of the British Chamber of

:18:50. > :18:54.Cranworth -- Commerce, says businesses are still not feeling

:18:54. > :18:58.the burden of regulation lifting. Will the Secretary of State listen

:18:58. > :19:04.to business and confirmed the Cabinet yesterday was lambasted by

:19:04. > :19:07.the Chancellor of the Exchequer for not achieving satisfactory growth.

:19:07. > :19:11.What I will say to the Honourable Gentleman is that right from the

:19:11. > :19:15.beginning when I was appointed Secretary of State for Wales, has

:19:15. > :19:20.set up a business advisory group so that I could listen directly to the

:19:20. > :19:25.concerns of business and kinship -- industry. By hold meetings with

:19:25. > :19:29.that group on a regular basis, -- I hold meetings. As recently as this

:19:29. > :19:34.week and met with the newt chief executive of the CBI in Wales so I

:19:34. > :19:41.certainly listen to what businesses are saying.

:19:42. > :19:47.This is about funding reductions and women.

:19:47. > :19:50.We want to put women at the heart of our economic future. Although we

:19:50. > :19:54.have had to make difficult decisions we are enduring the

:19:54. > :20:01.reductions made our shared fairly, whilst still protecting those in

:20:02. > :20:09.society almost for trouble. Not only our Welsh women being hit

:20:09. > :20:11.hard, but on April 6th over 9,000 families in Wales will discover

:20:11. > :20:19.they will be hit by a change to working tax credits which could

:20:19. > :20:22.mean a loss of up to �2,100 a year. Does the Secretary of State have

:20:22. > :20:27.any comprehension of how hard it would be for those families to

:20:27. > :20:33.increase their hours, especially in retail?

:20:33. > :20:37.As the Honourable Lady knows, this Government's top Pro40 is an

:20:37. > :20:41.economic recovery that pervades jobs for everybody, including women.

:20:41. > :20:45.This government, in difficult times, has been helping families with the

:20:45. > :20:49.cost of living. For example we have been freezing council tax, the

:20:49. > :20:54.Welsh Labour government has refused to implement a similar policy in

:20:54. > :20:58.Wales. Extending free health care, child care, and we have increased

:20:58. > :21:02.that entitlement in England. I challenge Labour where it is in

:21:02. > :21:07.power in Wales to match that sort of record.

:21:07. > :21:14.Many of the claims made about the effect on women has unfortunately

:21:14. > :21:18.been repeated. Despite making claims about the effect on Wales

:21:18. > :21:22.about changes to the railway system, there is no evidence to back this

:21:22. > :21:26.claims. Does the Secretary of State agree that many public sector

:21:26. > :21:30.organisation supported by the taxpayer have agreed to be

:21:30. > :21:33.mouthpieces for the Labour Party propaganda?

:21:34. > :21:39.I would always condemn organisations funded by the tax

:21:39. > :21:43.payer being propaganda mouthpieces for the Labour Party so I can agree

:21:43. > :21:46.wholeheartedly with my Right Honourable Friend. He must remember

:21:46. > :21:51.this is the government that is providing flexible parental leave,

:21:51. > :21:56.we are working with employers to enter Trevor seat of the gender pay

:21:56. > :21:59.gap, we are establishing a Women's Business Council, providing

:21:59. > :22:03.Enterprise mentors to help more men start their own business. We have a

:22:03. > :22:07.proud record on women and as the minister has just joined us on the

:22:07. > :22:12.front bench I would like to offer my congratulations on the work she

:22:12. > :22:16.is doing. Question about public service

:22:16. > :22:20.delivery. My Right Honourable Friend and I

:22:20. > :22:23.have regular discussions with ministerial colleagues and Welsh

:22:23. > :22:32.government ministers to discuss a wide range of areas including

:22:32. > :22:35.public services in Wales. Given the reports of patients in

:22:35. > :22:40.Wales crossing the border for better health care in England does

:22:40. > :22:46.my right honourable friend agree the NHS in Wales is in need of

:22:46. > :22:51.reform and deserves proper funding? Yes, indeed, what the government is

:22:51. > :22:56.seeking to do it in England is create an NHS fit for the 21st

:22:56. > :22:59.century. Gives more discretion to professionals and twisty patients.

:22:59. > :23:03.In Wales we are increasingly having a one-size-fits-all health service

:23:03. > :23:06.which is falling behind the rest of the country.

:23:06. > :23:12.One of the key public services in Wales is housing but a constituent

:23:12. > :23:17.came to my surgery last week who is in work, works a full week, is

:23:17. > :23:20.unfortunately homeless. If he were to resign from his job and it would

:23:20. > :23:24.mean the local authority would be required to find him at home and it

:23:24. > :23:28.would be paid for by the get pay. He doesn't want to do that. What

:23:28. > :23:33.will the government do to end this manifest unfairness where somebody

:23:34. > :23:38.in work paying child support agency fees are still homeless?

:23:38. > :23:41.Am sure the Right Honourable Gentleman as his constituency MP is

:23:41. > :23:47.making appropriate representations to the Welsh Assembly government

:23:47. > :23:52.which is responsible for housing in Wales.

:23:52. > :23:56.Another area of public service delivery is the 350 billion

:23:56. > :23:59.additional money for childcare tax credits the coalition government is

:23:59. > :24:04.delivering. What difference does the Minister believe this will make

:24:04. > :24:08.for working mothers or mothers trying to get into work?

:24:08. > :24:12.This is a matter that is currently a matter of discussion between the

:24:12. > :24:19.Welsh Assembly government and the relevant Whitehall department and

:24:19. > :24:24.those discussions are continuing. This is about marking St David's

:24:24. > :24:27.Day. Tonight my Right Honourable Friend

:24:27. > :24:32.the Prime Minister is holding a reception for St David's Day.

:24:32. > :24:35.Tomorrow the Welsh flag will be flying over Number Ten. I will be

:24:35. > :24:40.attending the backbench son David's Day debate tomorrow. Tomorrow I

:24:40. > :24:46.will be welcoming Welsh children from a charity to the House of

:24:46. > :24:51.Commons. I will be attending son David's Day dinner in London, -- St

:24:51. > :24:54.David's Day. The church service in the crypt, I presented the Prime

:24:54. > :25:02.Minister with daffodils from the National Botanic Garden of Wales

:25:02. > :25:06.yesterday, and the house is full of daffodils.

:25:06. > :25:10.This St David's Day will be tinged with some sadness as the Wales

:25:10. > :25:15.plate a memorial match in my constituency tonight in memory of

:25:15. > :25:21.Gary Speed, the whale its manager he died so tragically at the age of

:25:21. > :25:29.42 -- Wales manager. There will be money raised for a charity called

:25:29. > :25:33.Calm to help prevent suicide amongst young lead. Will she

:25:33. > :25:39.opposed the charity collecting at that event?

:25:39. > :25:42.I hope the memorial match in the memory of Gary Speed will go up

:25:42. > :25:47.extremely well and that a lot of money will be raced for the charity.

:25:47. > :25:51.Can I say I will come back to him and let him know because I would

:25:51. > :25:56.like to ask the people that work in the Wales of us and we are having a

:25:56. > :26:02.charity coming in tomorrow -- Wales office. We are focusing on that

:26:02. > :26:07.tomorrow. I will see what I can do. We can do with a bit of quiet, both

:26:07. > :26:11.out of respect for some day this day and to hear the chairman of the

:26:11. > :26:15.Welsh Affairs Select Committee, Mr David Davies. I wonder if the

:26:15. > :26:19.minister would consider marking St David's Day by allowing patients to

:26:19. > :26:24.opt out of the NHS in Wales, instead to enjoy the lower waiting

:26:24. > :26:34.lists, infection rates, and better funding which is a hallmark of the

:26:34. > :26:38.

:26:38. > :26:44.I am grateful to my Honourable Friend for reminding us on the eve

:26:44. > :26:49.of St David's Day of the differences that are rising,

:26:49. > :26:54.because of Labour government policy in Wales. I am sure his question

:26:54. > :26:58.will stand and be listened to by many people across Wales, and I

:26:58. > :27:00.hope the Welsh Labour government will emulate our reforms and

:27:00. > :27:08.produce a first-class health service in Wales for all our

:27:08. > :27:18.citizens. This is about handing -- funding

:27:18. > :27:18.

:27:18. > :27:24.for the high-speed to railway. -- It is clearly an England only

:27:24. > :27:29.project yet the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, in an answer to my

:27:29. > :27:32.question posed by myself last week said it will be decided after the

:27:32. > :27:38.shooting and finance arrangements are completed. Will he ensure that

:27:38. > :27:47.Wales doesn't lose out on the �1.9 billion he will get as a result

:27:47. > :27:56.securing guarantees that the project is funded.

:27:56. > :27:59.The Prime Minister was troubled by some sort of insect. I did get the

:27:59. > :28:04.thrust and there might be some force in the Honourable gentleman's

:28:04. > :28:07.arguments were not for the fact that the rail network in Wales is

:28:07. > :28:15.not a devolved issue and since that is the case there is no force in

:28:15. > :28:18.that argument whatever. This is about crime. My Right

:28:18. > :28:21.Honourable Friend the Secretary of State and I have regular

:28:21. > :28:28.discussions with Home Office ministers on a range of issues

:28:28. > :28:36.relating to crime in Wales. We have already lost 40 police officers in

:28:36. > :28:40.Gwent. Does he believe the cut in police numbers will prevent crime?

:28:40. > :28:45.I visited when police last year and was delighted to see the most

:28:45. > :28:49.recent crime figures show an 11% reduction in crime in that area,

:28:49. > :28:55.and rather than talking went police down one might have thought the

:28:55. > :28:58.Honourable Gentleman would be offering them some support.

:28:58. > :29:01.Does the Minister agree policing in Wales would be more effective and

:29:01. > :29:06.more accountable following the commissioners elections in

:29:06. > :29:09.November? Yes, indeed, I do. I believe that

:29:09. > :29:17.for the first time some democratic accountability will be introduced

:29:17. > :29:23.into the policing process in Wales and throughout the United Kingdom.

:29:23. > :29:26.This is about tourism. As this is Welsh tourism week I

:29:26. > :29:29.have been out on visits but I have regular discussions with

:29:29. > :29:33.ministerial colleagues and others on the promotion of tourism in

:29:33. > :29:38.Wales. Tourism is primarily a devolved matter for the Welsh

:29:38. > :29:43.government, but as usual we are keen to work with them to promote

:29:43. > :29:48.Wales internationally. The answers can scarcely be heard, it is simply

:29:48. > :29:53.not fair. There are huge opportunities for

:29:53. > :29:58.boosting tourism in North Wales, by working with the beautiful historic

:29:58. > :30:02.border town of Chester. As my Right Honourable Friend had any

:30:02. > :30:06.discussions with the Welsh Assembly government to encourage joint

:30:06. > :30:16.marketing of our tourism gems on both sides of the Anglo-Welsh

:30:16. > :30:18.

:30:18. > :30:23.I will make sure the request is on my next a gender. But I also hope

:30:23. > :30:27.that many people visiting this country double-take the opportunity

:30:27. > :30:34.to visit the many attractions on both sides of our border, but

:30:34. > :30:43.particularly in Wales. What more can be done to capture the Irish

:30:43. > :30:49.tourist market in Wales? It is a responsibility of the Labour Welsh

:30:49. > :30:58.government for doing this, but certainly, in my conversations with

:30:58. > :31:03.Irish Ministers I will ensure this is brought to bear a penchant. --

:31:03. > :31:11.brought to their attention. This morning, I had meetings with

:31:11. > :31:18.colleagues, and I shall have further meetings today. According

:31:18. > :31:28.to Revenue & Customs, some families earning �13,000 a year, will lose

:31:28. > :31:28.

:31:28. > :31:33.�1,000 a year in tax credits. But before the election, the work and

:31:33. > :31:36.pensions Minister said this was a light. Did he mislead the public?

:31:36. > :31:41.Were you have increased tax credits for the lowest paid people in our

:31:41. > :31:47.country, and lifted it over one million low-paid people out of

:31:47. > :31:53.income tax altogether. I think if he is worried about taxation issues,

:31:53. > :32:01.he should have a word with his candidate, Ken Livingstone, and

:32:01. > :32:05.asked if the war pay his taxes! -- it if he will pay his taxes! Many

:32:05. > :32:13.Irish people were moved about what the Prime Minister said about

:32:13. > :32:17.bloody Sunday. Eurozone support for our learned his condition --

:32:17. > :32:22.conditional on St yes on the referendum. For this country

:32:22. > :32:27.support Ireland, whatever it decides? We are certainly very good

:32:27. > :32:34.friends of the Republic of Ireland. It is their choice to sign the

:32:34. > :32:43.treaty, their choice to have a referendum on that treaty, and

:32:43. > :32:50.people's views in a referendum should be respected. Before turning

:32:50. > :32:54.to other matters, does the Prime Minister agree that the allegations

:32:54. > :32:59.by Sue Akers at the Leveson Inquiry, about corrupt behaviour at the

:32:59. > :33:04.heart of the press and police, a devastating? Such behaviour can

:33:04. > :33:07.have no place in the national institutions about our country.

:33:07. > :33:11.This underlines the importance of the police inquiry, which must get

:33:11. > :33:20.to the bottom of these allegations without fear of failure, and the

:33:20. > :33:27.Leveson Inquiry itself. completely agree about this issue.

:33:27. > :33:31.There is all party support, both for the Levison inquiry, but also a

:33:31. > :33:36.proper support for the police inquiry. It is important to make

:33:36. > :33:41.this point - there has always a debate about what is right for

:33:41. > :33:44.newspapers to do, to get stories in the public interest, but it is hard

:33:44. > :33:54.to think of any circumstances in which it is right for police

:33:54. > :34:00.officers to take money. On the Leveson Inquiry, canny ensure none

:34:00. > :34:03.of his senior Ministers do anything to undermine his work? Will he

:34:03. > :34:10.accept the Education Secretary was ill judged to say that the inquiry

:34:10. > :34:17.was having a chilling effect on freedom of expression? Carried his

:34:18. > :34:24.associate and softened his comments, and urge his colleagues not to

:34:24. > :34:28.undermine the Leveson Inquiry? answered this question that last

:34:28. > :34:35.week. The Education Secretary's support the Leveson Inquiry, and a

:34:35. > :34:43.wants it to proceed. That is the position of him and the entire

:34:43. > :34:47.government. I have to remind the Prime Minister that the Education

:34:47. > :34:54.Secretary said that there is a chilling atmosphere towards freedom

:34:54. > :35:04.of expression. I hope the Education Secretary will have heard the Prime

:35:04. > :35:05.

:35:05. > :35:11.Minister's words. Let me move on. On Sunday, the man who ran the NHS

:35:11. > :35:17.or six years said about the Bill: "it is a mess, it is a necessary,

:35:17. > :35:24.it misses the point, it is confused and confusing, and setting the NHS

:35:24. > :35:34.back". Why does he believe that there are yet more damning

:35:34. > :35:35.

:35:35. > :35:40.indictments of his NHS Bill? Let me referred to the Leveson Inquiry -

:35:40. > :35:46.what is important for all of us, in this House to say, it is one of

:35:46. > :35:52.these inquiries are going on, it is important for politicians who

:35:52. > :36:02.sometimes benefit from the press... It is important for us to say we

:36:02. > :36:08.support a freak, vibrant, but -- robust press. Turning to the health

:36:08. > :36:14.reforms, the honourable gentleman did actually say something last

:36:14. > :36:19.week it that I agreed with - he said that the NHS will have to

:36:19. > :36:24.change because of the rise of the age of the population, the number

:36:24. > :36:29.of long-term conditions and expectations and cost of. Sounds a

:36:29. > :36:34.bit familiar! The problem for the Labour Party is they are against

:36:34. > :36:37.the money they need to go into the NHS, which say is irresponsible,

:36:37. > :36:46.and although they supported competition and choice, they do not

:36:46. > :36:51.support it any more. He seems to have forgotten the question. It was

:36:51. > :36:55.about the man who ran the health service for six years. He was the

:36:55. > :37:05.chief executive of the NHS, and he says his bill is a mess and

:37:05. > :37:12.

:37:12. > :37:18.confusing. Someone else hosted the Health Secretary's first speech,

:37:18. > :37:22.and advised the Labour government. He is a GP at the head of a

:37:22. > :37:29.clinical commissioning group. He said, a backward we cared deeply

:37:29. > :37:33.about the patients we see every day, and weak believe or improvements in

:37:33. > :37:38.the NHS can be achieved without bureaucracy generated by the bell.

:37:38. > :37:48.This is a man in charge of a clinical commissioning group. Isn't

:37:48. > :37:48.

:37:48. > :37:55.it time the Prime Minister has lost the confidence, even of the GBs?

:37:55. > :38:03.There are over 8,000 GP practices, implementing the health reforms. He

:38:03. > :38:08.asked me if I will listen up to those people who run the NHS over

:38:08. > :38:15.the last decade. Let me give him a selection of people, and what they

:38:15. > :38:22.think of competition. The right competition for the right reasons

:38:22. > :38:29.can drivers to achieve more. He was a Health Minister - they do not

:38:29. > :38:34.want to listen to Labour Ministers. This is what he said, "competition

:38:34. > :38:42.to make the NHS more equitable". That is the view of a Labour

:38:42. > :38:47.Secretary of State. What about an adviser? This is what he said, but

:38:47. > :38:51.a quick the measure the effect of competition have not been trivial.

:38:52. > :38:58.Competition in the NHS can be credited with saving hundreds of

:38:58. > :39:04.lives. The truth is he does not want to listen to past Labour

:39:04. > :39:13.Ministers, because he is taking a toe to lead opportunity --

:39:13. > :39:20.opportunistic a position. reason that 95% of GPs are having

:39:20. > :39:27.to implement these changes are because he has imposed them on them.

:39:27. > :39:32.Another doctor addresses this in his letter. He says, your

:39:32. > :39:38.government interpreted as our commitment to our patience as

:39:38. > :39:46.support for a doorbell. It is not! 90 Aber cent of the Royal College

:39:46. > :39:50.of GPs oppose the Bill. In the last seven days a loan, the Rock College

:39:50. > :39:57.of Physicians have called their first emergency meeting about the

:39:57. > :40:03.bill, he has lost the support of the British Geriatrics Society.

:40:03. > :40:09.Every week that goes by, more and more health care organisations come

:40:09. > :40:12.out against this Bill. Can the Prime Minister give the House a

:40:12. > :40:22.list of significant health organisations who are still

:40:22. > :40:24.

:40:24. > :40:32.supporters of the Belle? specifically said... Let us say the

:40:32. > :40:38.answer! He said 98% of GPs oppose the reforms. Let me give him the

:40:38. > :40:48.actual figures are: there are for the 4,000 members of the Rock

:40:48. > :40:49.

:40:49. > :40:59.College of GPs, a total... Just 7% responded, opposing the Bill. And

:40:59. > :41:09.what about the Royal College up physiotherapists? 50,000 members,

:41:09. > :41:18.

:41:18. > :41:25.to present! I know that is enough for the unions. -- 2%. There are

:41:25. > :41:29.well trained at today, all this leave. Let me tell them, their

:41:29. > :41:39.support for the health bill is digging their own at burial at the

:41:39. > :41:45.next election. I did ask him a specific question. I know my now he

:41:45. > :41:55.does not like to answer the questions. I asked him who supports

:41:55. > :41:56.

:41:56. > :42:02.his belt. There was no answer. Let me refresh his memory. It is no

:42:02. > :42:11.good the Deputy Prime Minister smirking, by the way! Oh, he

:42:11. > :42:19.supports it! There is firm leadership the you! Let me refresh

:42:19. > :42:25.his memory. He Royal College of GPs, the Rock College of Nursing, the

:42:25. > :42:28.Royal College of midwives, the Royal College of radiologists, the

:42:28. > :42:34.Faculty of Public Health, the Chartered Society of

:42:34. > :42:40.physiotherapists, the Community Practitioner -- practitioners, and

:42:40. > :42:50.the patients' Association. Mr Speaker, doesn't it ever occurred

:42:50. > :42:50.

:42:50. > :43:00.to him... Doesn't it ever occurred to him that just maybe, they are

:43:00. > :43:02.

:43:02. > :43:11.right and he is wrong? He didn't mention the NHS Alliance, the

:43:11. > :43:18.Association of Chief executives of a voluntary organisations, a Labour

:43:18. > :43:24.Minister. A surgeon hired to run the health service! Here we are,

:43:24. > :43:30.for weeks and a row of energy as questions, but not a single

:43:30. > :43:36.question of substance. All about process ought, all about politics,

:43:36. > :43:42.never about substance. We all know it is Libya, so maybe he did this

:43:42. > :43:52.once I get to ask the question - we all know what he is against, but

:43:52. > :43:57.

:43:58. > :44:03.what is he for? In my area, there are plans for a wind turbines. They

:44:03. > :44:07.are less than a mile apart. Is the Prime Minister agreed that such a

:44:07. > :44:12.giant turbines should not be built so close to residential areas

:44:12. > :44:22.without local people having a say? We want to see a balanced energy

:44:22. > :44:22.

:44:22. > :44:28.policy. There are two changes we are making. One is we are cutting

:44:28. > :44:33.peat substitute to onshore wind. The second thing we are doing is,

:44:33. > :44:37.when the localism act fully comes into place, that will give local

:44:37. > :44:44.communities a greater say over issues like wind turbines. We tried

:44:44. > :44:54.to do that earlier. But we lost that case in the courts, so we need

:44:54. > :44:58.

:44:58. > :45:05.the act to come into place in full. Does he recognise that there are

:45:05. > :45:15.200 couples in his constituency with 400 children? They will lose

:45:15. > :45:25.working tax credit. This can be 25% of their income. Can he say how

:45:25. > :45:27.

:45:27. > :45:31.We have had to take difficult decisions because of the deficit we

:45:31. > :45:34.inherited. In taking those decisions we have protected the

:45:35. > :45:39.poorest families by increasing the trialled tax credit. We have also

:45:39. > :45:42.helped the poorest who are in work by lifting one million people out

:45:42. > :45:48.of income tax. The question has to come back to Labour, you left us

:45:48. > :45:52.with this mess, what would you do about it?

:45:52. > :45:55.This summer in my constituency of Gloucester as everywhere around the

:45:56. > :46:05.country, people will be looking forward to the start of the Olympic

:46:06. > :46:08.

:46:08. > :46:14.Games. A great opportunity to show how the country manages these

:46:14. > :46:18.events. Does the Prime Minister agree that nothing could be further

:46:18. > :46:26.from the spirit of the Olympics, nothing could doodle -- more damage

:46:26. > :46:30.to the reputation of our country. I think my Honourable friend speaks

:46:30. > :46:36.for the whole country when he says what the general secretary of unite

:46:36. > :46:43.said. He said am calling upon the general public to engage in civil

:46:43. > :46:47.disobedience. Unite is the biggest single donor to the party opposite

:46:47. > :46:51.providing a third of their money, and had more role in anybody else

:46:51. > :46:57.than putting the Right Honourable gentleman in his place. It is not

:46:57. > :47:06.good enough for them to put out a tweed, they need to condemn this. -

:47:06. > :47:10.No top down reorganisation of the NHS, there reduction in the run-up

:47:10. > :47:13.police officers and no cuts to tax credits to below -- follow income

:47:13. > :47:17.families. Why does the Prime Minister find it so hard to keep

:47:17. > :47:22.his promises to the British public. We promised to increase spending on

:47:22. > :47:27.the NHS, we are boosting spending. We promised cancer drugs fund and

:47:27. > :47:31.it is 10,000 people who have got extra jobs through that fund. --

:47:31. > :47:34.drugs. We promised we would have doctors growing faster than the

:47:34. > :47:39.number of bureaucrats and the number of doctors is up by 4,000,

:47:39. > :47:45.bureaucrats is down by 5,000. That is what coalition policy is doing

:47:45. > :47:49.for our health service. We did promise to close the

:47:49. > :47:54.loophole on multinational companies that allows the migrant cap to be

:47:54. > :48:00.flouted using inter-company transfers, or is this another tough

:48:00. > :48:10.immigration policy that will fall victim to the curse of Clyde?

:48:10. > :48:14.-- Nick Clegg. We have a tough migrant cap for migrant workers,

:48:14. > :48:18.Business said how important it was to have inter-company transfers,

:48:18. > :48:21.but only at relatively high salary levels. That is what we put in

:48:21. > :48:28.place and that demonstrates every time we will be able to control

:48:28. > :48:33.immigration be do so in a way that doesn't damage business.

:48:33. > :48:39.government was made aware of fraud allegations before the Prime

:48:39. > :48:44.Minister appointed the company's chairman as his family's sake, if

:48:44. > :48:47.the Prime Minister is in danger of acquiring a reputation of ill

:48:47. > :48:51.judged personal appointments will he tell house what independent

:48:51. > :48:55.checks he believes should be carried out before opponents are

:48:55. > :48:59.made and whether any checks were carried out in respect of Emma

:48:59. > :49:02.Harrison? I was not aware of any allegations

:49:02. > :49:06.of irregularities when Emma Harrison became an adviser to the

:49:06. > :49:11.government on troubled families. At the time she was appointed there

:49:11. > :49:15.were no formal investigations into the company, just their own probe

:49:15. > :49:20.into irregularities. I do think this issue needs to be properly

:49:20. > :49:24.dealt with, I am concerned that subsequent to the appointment

:49:24. > :49:28.information needed to be passed up the line more rapidly to ministers.

:49:28. > :49:33.I have asked Sir Jeremy Heywood to review the guide leant across

:49:33. > :49:41.government and this particular case, and when he talks about the horse

:49:41. > :49:47.having bolted, Emma Harrison was given a Commander of the Royal Navy

:49:47. > :49:52.of Oman by the last government and all the allegations made are into

:49:52. > :49:57.contact the government handed out. A little bit more transparency

:49:57. > :50:05.might be a good thing. Will the Prime Minister join me paying

:50:05. > :50:08.tribute to the courage of the injured war photographer from

:50:08. > :50:12.Totnes injured showing the world the horrors of the Syrian regime

:50:12. > :50:19.and will he join me and Len Tingle those who have to safe passage out

:50:19. > :50:24.the country? The role the media do in being

:50:24. > :50:31.incredibly difficult places to bring the true to the world, and

:50:31. > :50:34.that is what he was doing, and that is what the journalist did when

:50:34. > :50:41.they lost their life. Paying tribute to the prairie brave people

:50:41. > :50:47.who help to get him out of Syria -- very brave people. If he is now

:50:47. > :50:51.safe were, he has been in our embassy in Beirut in Lebanon,

:50:51. > :50:56.properly looked after, I eat -- and I am sure he will want to come and

:50:56. > :50:59.see. Last October the Chancellor announced a new policy called

:50:59. > :51:04.credit easing. Can the Prime Minister tell us how many

:51:04. > :51:07.businesses have been helped? The Chancellor said at the time of

:51:07. > :51:17.the Autumn Statement the policy would be in place at the time for

:51:17. > :51:19.

:51:19. > :51:26.the Budget and that is exactly what is going to happen.

:51:26. > :51:29.Order. High Street across the country including those in

:51:29. > :51:35.Lowestoft in my constituency are facing tough trading conditions at

:51:35. > :51:39.present, including the prospect of a 5.6% increase in business rates.

:51:39. > :51:44.Can the Prime Minister outline what the government are doing to support

:51:44. > :51:47.traders to enable them to grow their businesses and create jobs?

:51:47. > :51:51.The Honourable done, is right to raise this issue. There are real

:51:51. > :51:55.concerns about the hollowing out of our high street and the number of

:51:55. > :52:04.empty properties. What we have done is doubled small businesses, that

:52:04. > :52:09.has helped, removing legal red tape allowing rent payers to fill in

:52:09. > :52:18.paperwork to reclaim that, and also working with Mary porters we have a

:52:18. > :52:20.whole plan to how we can try to help reinvigorate our high streets.

:52:20. > :52:27.The Prime Minister may have seen headlines in the newspapers that

:52:27. > :52:35.the happiest people living in Northern Ireland -- live in

:52:35. > :52:41.Northern Ireland. As the major party of government for the past

:52:41. > :52:44.five years in Northern Ireland we are not surprised by that. One

:52:44. > :52:48.thing that overshadows that happiness is the high and

:52:48. > :52:52.escalating price of petrol and diesel, the highest not only in the

:52:52. > :52:57.United Kingdom but the highest in the European Union. Can the Prime

:52:57. > :53:02.Minister bring happiness to all parts of the United Kingdom by it

:53:02. > :53:05.agreeing to do away with the August fuel tax rise increase and reduce

:53:05. > :53:08.fuel allowances as soon as possible?

:53:08. > :53:13.Am delighted to hear the people of Northern Ireland are the happiest

:53:13. > :53:18.in the United Kingdom. I have to say their representatives in this

:53:18. > :53:25.has don't always give that impression. Maybe I have been

:53:25. > :53:30.missing something. We recognise families of businesses are filling

:53:30. > :53:32.the pressure, we cut fuel duty and scrap the automatic fuel duty

:53:33. > :53:36.stabiliser, it has meant pump prices are six pence lower than

:53:36. > :53:42.they would have been under the previous Government's plans, but

:53:42. > :53:46.clearly being impacted by Our higher oil price.

:53:46. > :53:50.The government had tough action on up unacceptable tax avoidance. Does

:53:50. > :53:57.the Prime Minister agree the principles of paying their fair

:53:57. > :53:59.share for tax should apply to both banks and former mayor of London?

:53:59. > :54:02.My honourable friend made an important point whether it is

:54:02. > :54:08.Barclays Bank or Ken Livingstone, people should pay the proper and

:54:08. > :54:11.out of tax and I hope HMRC will look carefully at all the sorts of

:54:11. > :54:15.cases. Frankly for London has many of whom live in Labour-controlled

:54:15. > :54:22.areas with high labour council taxes will be pretty angry about

:54:22. > :54:26.what they have seen, and they will probably conclude Red Ken has been

:54:26. > :54:29.caught red-handed. The IFS has reported the

:54:30. > :54:34.Government's tax and benefit changes will hit families with

:54:34. > :54:37.children five times higher than those without children. His is what

:54:37. > :54:41.the Palestinians by the most family-friendly government ever, is

:54:41. > :54:46.it fair or is it just another broken promise?

:54:46. > :54:50.What this government has done is increased tax credits for the least

:54:50. > :54:53.well-paid, lift people out of tax, introduced free nursery care for

:54:53. > :54:56.two, three and four-year-old and expanded for this families, all

:54:57. > :55:02.those things have made a difference. Incidently she didn't mention she

:55:02. > :55:12.herself is sponsored by the unite Union and she could have taken this

:55:12. > :55:18.

:55:19. > :55:25.opportunity to condemn them -- Order. Let's hear Mr Metcalfe.

:55:25. > :55:28.Since the furore broke over work- experience and has my right Hon

:55:28. > :55:36.boyfriend had any businesses or organisations come forward to

:55:36. > :55:39.support -- my Right Honourable Friend. The had anyone come forward

:55:39. > :55:43.who support seeds this scheme to get young people into work?

:55:43. > :55:47.He is entirely right. The whole country wants to see more young

:55:47. > :55:51.people given the opportunity that work experience provides and the

:55:51. > :55:55.good news is since this row has been going on in the pages of our

:55:55. > :55:59.newspapers we have actually had expressions of interest from 200

:55:59. > :56:02.small and medium-sized employers who want to get involved in this

:56:02. > :56:08.programme. I think it is time for businesses in Britain and everyone

:56:08. > :56:11.in Britain who want to see people have with his period stand up

:56:11. > :56:21.against the trucks the rights of the right to work unpaid and

:56:21. > :56:24.

:56:24. > :56:28.recognise the deafening silence we have had from the party opposite.

:56:28. > :56:32.I am able to welcome the Prime Minister's commitment to the reform

:56:32. > :56:36.of the European Convention on Human Rights, and the powers of the

:56:36. > :56:40.European Court on Human Rights. Will the Prime Minister give the

:56:40. > :56:47.commitment to a loud this house a proper debate whenever the Brighton

:56:47. > :56:50.decoration is published and will he ensure once again the principle is

:56:50. > :56:55.respected and the British courts have a proper say in what goes on

:56:55. > :56:58.in this country? I do want you see the principle of

:56:58. > :57:02.subsidiarity get a fair hearing at Strasbourg, that was what was

:57:02. > :57:06.really contained in the speech and made at the council in Europe so it

:57:06. > :57:09.doesn't become an instance where someone has been in front of a

:57:09. > :57:15.local court, Court of Appeal, Supreme Court in the Rhone country

:57:15. > :57:18.and then to the ECHR, so we have proposals for reform, it clearly

:57:18. > :57:21.what is debated in this house we now have the backbench committee

:57:21. > :57:26.that has an enormous number of days in this house and perhaps they will

:57:26. > :57:31.give every time not enough Ikea, more than enough in my view, and

:57:31. > :57:36.they can make a day for that debate. What the Prime Minister agree one

:57:36. > :57:40.of the best ways to deliver on our commitment to the fairness agenda

:57:40. > :57:47.is to go ahead as quickly as possible in implementing the

:57:47. > :57:51.coalition agreement to raise the tax threshold to �10,000? All the

:57:51. > :57:54.coalition agreement commits us to his real increases in VAT threshold,

:57:54. > :57:58.we have achieved that in budgets over the last two years, in spite

:57:58. > :58:02.of the difficult conditions refaced in the economy, I do think it is a

:58:02. > :58:08.good idea to lift people out of tax, it particularly helps low-paid

:58:09. > :58:12.people and low-paid women. The Ministry of Defence is buying

:58:12. > :58:18.tankers from South Korea, when the work to be done here. The Ministry

:58:18. > :58:25.of Defence says, and I quote, it will not consider wider employment

:58:25. > :58:29.industrial and economic factors in procurement. Why it will this

:58:29. > :58:36.arrogant and complacent Prime Minister not stand up for world

:58:36. > :58:40.class in this -- world-class British industry. I'm happy to have

:58:40. > :58:46.British Aerospace, Rolls-Royce, promoting great British companies,

:58:46. > :58:50.it is a pity when I do so I get attacked by the Labour Party.

:58:50. > :58:55.Is the Prime Minister aware of the tragic death of my constituent

:58:55. > :58:59.Penny Hegarty from over can it? Her husband believes his wife's death

:58:59. > :59:03.is just one example of systemic management failures at the

:59:03. > :59:09.University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay NHS Trust. Will the Prime

:59:09. > :59:12.Minister assure him that reason work to improve the management will

:59:12. > :59:15.continue and distrust will be turned around?

:59:15. > :59:19.I can certainly give my Honourable friend that issuance but first a

:59:19. > :59:23.more I'm sure the whole House will want to say the deepest condolences

:59:23. > :59:28.of the husband and family of the Honourable Members constituent,

:59:28. > :59:30.Penny Hegarty. He has no local MPs on a number off agents to keep them

:59:30. > :59:36.updated. Patients have got the right to expect fare better

:59:36. > :59:40.standards of care. I know the care quality commission have raised

:59:40. > :59:47.standards -- questions about standards in the trust. He says

:59:47. > :59:52.that we need to be undertaken with all speed.

:59:52. > :00:00.Graham Brown the director of Shelter Ince got loads, the

:00:00. > :00:05.proposal for the bedroom tax is grossly unfair, social landlords,

:00:05. > :00:09.MSPs and individuals. Does the Prime Minister except widows and we

:00:09. > :00:13.do was left in the family home when their children leave on a low

:00:13. > :00:17.income can lose up to 25% of their housing benefit support if he

:00:17. > :00:27.continues with this, is it just he is an feeling or determined to get

:00:27. > :00:30.

:00:30. > :00:38.We need to reform housing benefit. It was expected to cost over �24

:00:38. > :00:42.billion a year. As his own welfare spokesman said, it would have

:00:42. > :00:49.scarcely believed housing benefit is costing the UK over �20 billion

:00:49. > :00:56.a year. I am getting slightly frustrated with these statements in

:00:56. > :01:03.principle of reform. They say they are in favour of welfare reform,

:01:03. > :01:11.but they oppose it. Every attempt to do with housing benefit is

:01:11. > :01:15.frustrated. Throughout the country, men will be hoping that their

:01:15. > :01:21.girlfriends or make a commitment to them. Can I ask the Prime Minister

:01:21. > :01:30.to give romance a nudge? The reforms always support hard-working

:01:30. > :01:34.families. I was wondering where she was going with that! She is

:01:34. > :01:42.absolutely right. It is a leap year, where all sorts of things can

:01:42. > :01:49.happen. The key thing is both our tax and welfare system, we should

:01:49. > :01:56.be encouraging families to come together and stay together. Is the

:01:56. > :02:06.Prime Minister aware that the entry clearance office in Abu Dhabi has

:02:06. > :02:10.rejected an application to come up from a Pakistan to attend her

:02:10. > :02:14.granddaughter's wedding in Manchester? Were deep honourable

:02:14. > :02:20.gentleman specified what kind of employment a 72-year-old woman, who

:02:20. > :02:28.does not speak English, and has never left Pakistan, is liable to

:02:28. > :02:35.be telling my constituency? Will he over all this decision, and allow

:02:35. > :02:45.this woman a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to attend her

:02:45. > :02:47.

:02:47. > :02:57.granddaughter's wedding? Beat honourable gentleman has been a

:02:57. > :02:59.

:02:59. > :03:09.lucidity itself! I am bringing it to an end. Can the Home Secretary

:03:09. > :03:12.

:03:12. > :03:17.appeal? To answer the question, I was not aware of this individual

:03:17. > :03:22.case. There are hundreds of thousands of people who travel

:03:22. > :03:27.between Pakistan and Britain every year. We do have to have tough

:03:27. > :03:33.controls to prevent the abuse of our immigration system, but I

:03:33. > :03:43.suggest he takes up the case with the Immigration Minister, who has a

:03:43. > :03:44.

:03:44. > :03:49.superb knowledge of these issues. Under Tony Blair's regime, we could

:03:49. > :03:54.sleep safely at night, because we knew Lord Prescott would take over

:03:54. > :04:02.if he was incapacitated. What would happen if the Prime Minister became

:04:02. > :04:12.incapacitated? I have been waiting for some time for this. He has

:04:12. > :04:12.

:04:12. > :04:17.asked this question to almost every single Cabinet Minister. All I can

:04:17. > :04:27.say is, I have no plans to become incapacitated. We are very relieved

:04:27. > :04:31.to hear it. Further to the question... I mean the answer, on

:04:31. > :04:35.the Leveson Inquiry, he is of course absolutely right that we

:04:35. > :04:45.need a free press. The nation or not thank him if he goes along with

:04:45. > :04:50.the suggestion from Lord Hunt in his proposal to use the defamation

:04:50. > :04:56.Bill to legislate in a new system. It is coming forward in September.

:04:56. > :05:04.This would pre-empt the Leveson Inquiry. Can you make it clear he

:05:04. > :05:10.will not do that? I have absolutely no intention of pre-empting beat

:05:10. > :05:14.Leveson Inquiry in any way at all. If we look back to this debate we

:05:14. > :05:21.had, I said how important it was to trust it Levison to get on with the

:05:21. > :05:27.job, to give every signal that we want to adopt what he has been --

:05:27. > :05:31.what he has proposed. There is an understanding on that basis. By

:05:31. > :05:41.Piggott is important that honourable members stress the

:05:41. > :05:41.

:05:41. > :05:47.importance of a freak press. -- I think it is important. Hard-working

:05:47. > :05:52.families in my constituency are astonished that a benefit cap of

:05:52. > :06:02.�26,000 is being opposed by the party opposite. All my honourable

:06:02. > :06:02.

:06:02. > :06:07.friend agree that we wore always make work pay? -- where all my

:06:07. > :06:12.today is the day that the welfare bill becomes an act, and for the

:06:12. > :06:16.first time, we will have a proper cap on welfare, supported by this

:06:17. > :06:26.side, opposed by that side, but backed by the majority of people in

:06:27. > :06:38.

:06:38. > :06:46.Thank you, David. Well, my guests are still with me to review today's

:06:46. > :06:51.Questions. The NHS featured. What do you make of David Davis's

:06:51. > :07:01.suggestion that on St David's Day, people should be able to opt-out of

:07:01. > :07:11.the Welsh NHS. I think it is a bit irresponsible. He should have taken

:07:11. > :07:21.more responsibility for his stature on that. I know the intention -

:07:21. > :07:27.

:07:27. > :07:32.there were a few Tory ams. Back at the end of the day, it was widely

:07:32. > :07:37.thought that the NHS reforms are not something that will be helpful

:07:37. > :07:46.to the English NHS, and I would urge MPs to take mood of the

:07:46. > :07:51.protests. -- take note. politicians were interested in the

:07:51. > :07:58.NHS. What did you think of the fact there were a lot of MPs, not from

:07:58. > :08:05.Wales, asking questions? I felt it was a very bizarre experience, and

:08:05. > :08:13.it was clear look -- that there was a whole host of Conservative MPs

:08:13. > :08:18.who detest what we are doing in Wales. They do not think it is

:08:18. > :08:23.being done better, but the reality is, they just don't like the style,

:08:23. > :08:28.principles, behind the way we go, the fact we are not going down the

:08:28. > :08:34.privatisation route. It is also a way of distracting what is

:08:34. > :08:44.happening in England, and the turmoil occurring in England.

:08:44. > :08:45.

:08:45. > :08:50.Diversely tactics, I would save. Wales, we have the potential

:08:50. > :09:00.centralisation. Nobody is above criticism in this. The Government

:09:00. > :09:01.

:09:01. > :09:07.denied there will be centralisation. There was a suggestion, talking

:09:07. > :09:17.about a... He suggested that they were mouthpieces for Labour

:09:17. > :09:20.

:09:20. > :09:26.propaganda. I found that insulting. These are 17 voluntary

:09:26. > :09:31.organisations, all these different bodies, who have commissioned an

:09:31. > :09:39.analysis as to the impact of welfare reform one Wales. Now, I

:09:39. > :09:46.suppose... He was talking about the Bevan Foundation. I think he meant

:09:46. > :09:51.across the board. He was trying to attract attention away from the

:09:51. > :09:59.message. The message is that there will be vulnerable people affected

:09:59. > :10:08.by the benefit changes. Moving on to PMQs. We ploughed up the health

:10:08. > :10:14.topic. It almost dragged on, didn't it? Ed Miliband and Labour are

:10:14. > :10:19.trying to make a lot of games from the fact that it seems as if the

:10:19. > :10:24.NHS Bill is very popular, so continue to question the Prime

:10:24. > :10:29.Minister on this. But it seemed to me as if it was going nowhere. He

:10:29. > :10:34.was not giving any comprehensive response is. They were quoting from

:10:34. > :10:43.people right, left and centre. I would like to see more energy on

:10:43. > :10:47.other topics in the future. topic - one Conservative MP raised

:10:47. > :10:52.comments from Len McCluskey. He seemingly, in one of the papers

:10:52. > :10:59.this morning, was calling on strikes during the Olympics, and

:10:59. > :11:04.even suggesting it there should be civil disobedience. What it is

:11:04. > :11:08.avoiding is there are an awful lot of workers in London providing

:11:08. > :11:16.services, Basey pens of millions of pounds going into corporate events

:11:16. > :11:22.and so on. -- Basey tens of millions of pounds. I think it is

:11:22. > :11:28.avoiding the fact there are quite angry people. The EC this amount of

:11:28. > :11:33.wealth poured into the Olympics, and they are basically just pushed

:11:33. > :11:40.to one side and told to do their job. But are those responsible

:11:40. > :11:45.comments? It is a reflection of some of the fears and concerns

:11:45. > :11:51.coming from activists within the Union. It is trying to put over and

:11:51. > :11:55.reflect that and go growing in London at the moment.,

:11:55. > :12:02.Don't forget, if you'd like to send us your comments about any of the

:12:02. > :12:10.issues raised in the programme, write to us. We're also on Twitter.

:12:10. > :12:20.Or send us an email. Time to find out what's happening

:12:20. > :12:21.

:12:21. > :12:27.on the Senedd today. Mark Hannaby's in the Oriel. We have got hundreds

:12:27. > :12:31.of people protesting against what they fear will be the downgrading

:12:31. > :12:35.of eight hospital in Aberystwyth. The First Minister is adamant that

:12:35. > :12:40.it will not be downgraded. Let me run through what is happening in

:12:40. > :12:46.the Chamber. We have got questions to a couple of Ministers, first

:12:46. > :12:56.double. Then there are a couple of debates. The first one is on inward

:12:56. > :12:58.

:12:58. > :13:02.investment. They are time this debate in with what has been the

:13:02. > :13:07.abolition of the Welsh agency. They fed a key marketing approach is

:13:07. > :13:10.being missed out on. The second debate is on a wheelchair access.

:13:10. > :13:15.They don't think people who need wheelchairs are getting them

:13:15. > :13:20.quickly enough, or repaired quickly enough. This is causing distress

:13:20. > :13:29.for a lot of people. The short debate this afternoon is on cuts.

:13:29. > :13:33.It is introduced by the Cardiff West AM. They are a coalition of

:13:33. > :13:39.organisations, who had been looking at what they think the impact of

:13:39. > :13:43.the UK welfare cuts will be. The Assembly government thinks 6,000

:13:43. > :13:49.more children will be in poverty next year as a result of those cuts.

:13:49. > :13:54.One debate I haven't mentioned - district hospitals. They want to

:13:54. > :14:01.see those maintained. And that ties in with what these protesters are

:14:01. > :14:07.talking about. They they they will be a downgrading of services. --

:14:07. > :14:12.there will be. The First Minister has said that scaremongering, that

:14:12. > :14:17.the hospital were not be downgraded. Where does the truth lie? I spoke

:14:17. > :14:24.to one of the campaigners here earlier Ron. He is a retired GP. I

:14:24. > :14:30.asked him why he is fearful for the future of the hospital. We are

:14:30. > :14:40.concerned for the health of people in mid- Wales. We do not think

:14:40. > :14:46.preparations guarantee the development of this hospital. We do

:14:46. > :14:52.not think it is sufficient. What you fear will happen? They

:14:52. > :15:02.published a document before Christmas of last year, where they

:15:02. > :15:03.

:15:03. > :15:11.made definitive statements that said the services were going south.

:15:11. > :15:15.We could not let that go ahead, without some demonstration or

:15:15. > :15:25.protest. But those are not definitive statements at this stage,

:15:25. > :15:36.

:15:36. > :15:45.This board is approaching this and we're not about showing a lot of

:15:45. > :15:53.what they'll say is not open to discussion, it is in hand. The

:15:53. > :15:57.examples are adverts for surgeons in the South, that showed

:15:57. > :16:07.developments there which are not part of the total package, it is

:16:07. > :16:10.ongoing, they are moving services from have a fit for Test --

:16:10. > :16:19.Haverfordwest. We are seeing similar things happening here, in

:16:19. > :16:25.Aberystwyth we have seen mortuary services go, just recently, half

:16:25. > :16:30.our mental health birds went. It goes on and on. If he did call this

:16:30. > :16:33.a time you have to input, I don't know what is.

:16:33. > :16:40.When the First Minister says he can reassure people it will not be

:16:40. > :16:45.downgraded, what you make of that? I could say what everything but

:16:45. > :16:55.that might be libellous. What I really think is that things are

:16:55. > :16:56.

:16:56. > :17:01.being said which are not what we see as we this fact so I did when

:17:01. > :17:09.to call the Prime Minister any names. The First Minister.

:17:09. > :17:12.First Minister any names. But it is not as we see it. It you see a

:17:12. > :17:18.whole demonstration saying precisely this is what we think,

:17:18. > :17:28.feel, and we need things in black and white.

:17:28. > :17:30.

:17:30. > :17:34.Let's see what our guests thing. UN name, he was making some

:17:34. > :17:38.accusations. I did pick he addressed what is being said. The

:17:38. > :17:41.First Minister and health minister have both said openly and very

:17:41. > :17:51.clearly that won the proposals to downgrade the hospital, certainly

:17:51. > :17:58.no plans to close the hospital, any reforms particularly with clinical

:17:58. > :18:03.specialist provision has to be a product of genuine consultation,

:18:03. > :18:10.and the minister has a national forum of clinical experts who will

:18:10. > :18:14.advise, and that safety and Clinical excellence are the

:18:14. > :18:17.Parramatta mitigating features. It is attributed to the NHS that

:18:17. > :18:26.people feel and a strip of hospitals and the importance of

:18:26. > :18:33.that. It is something very viable - - ownership. Carling did make that

:18:33. > :18:37.statement misinformation was being put out their -- Carwyn Jones.

:18:37. > :18:42.He suggested it could be Plaid Cymru who were putting out

:18:43. > :18:46.misinformation, scaremongering is another accusation, what you say?

:18:46. > :18:49.I don't see it as scaremongering for a legitimate pitied --

:18:50. > :18:54.political party to put forward concerns reflected by those who

:18:54. > :19:04.actually work in the health service. The First Minister says he has

:19:04. > :19:04.

:19:04. > :19:11.addressed the concerns, there will be no doubt grading. -- downgrading.

:19:11. > :19:16.Moving services is downgrading. We need to have a comprehensive and

:19:16. > :19:19.mature debate this afternoon on this, and we did needed the points

:19:20. > :19:22.scoring but we need to assure people in those particular areas

:19:22. > :19:30.the services they want and need will be retained in their

:19:30. > :19:34.respective areas. This reorganisation is Wales wide. Do

:19:34. > :19:38.you think it will be difficult for your government to deal with?

:19:38. > :19:42.a difficult one for any government to deal with. Certainly going back

:19:42. > :19:47.over the last 12 months, nearly all parties have said No change is not

:19:47. > :19:54.an option, the real issue with regard to Clinical excellence,

:19:54. > :19:59.specialisation and so on. The key is the consultation is genuine.

:19:59. > :20:03.There is proper engagement with people. Also there has to be a

:20:04. > :20:08.certain amount of trust. When Carwyn Jones does say this is the

:20:08. > :20:13.position, there is no downgrading, it will not be closed, people have

:20:13. > :20:17.to accept that all put up a reason as to why they did accept it.

:20:17. > :20:21.The problem is there was a public meeting in Aberystwyth, the how of

:20:22. > :20:25.board representatives did not come to that meeting. Until they engage

:20:25. > :20:30.properly these fears will still be on the table.

:20:30. > :20:40.Don't forget, Mark told us what is going on today. You can find out a

:20:40. > :20:44.

:20:44. > :20:49.whole range of what is happening on Let's head back over to Mark.

:20:49. > :20:54.We want to talk about another health issue, I am joined by the

:20:54. > :20:58.conservative AM. We will talk about wheelchairs and the difficulty

:20:58. > :21:01.people have accessing the. You broke your ankle recently and you

:21:01. > :21:05.had a short-term experience at the frustrations, but of course you are

:21:05. > :21:08.aware for many people they can there are many months and years

:21:09. > :21:13.with all manner of difficulties accessing on the NHS.

:21:13. > :21:16.That is right. When somebody has a health need it ought to be met with

:21:16. > :21:19.the appropriate commitment and unfortunately with some service

:21:19. > :21:24.users they are not getting their wheelchairs quickly enough. We have

:21:24. > :21:28.had reports for people waiting 20 months and more in order to access

:21:28. > :21:32.their equipment and that is just not acceptable. A report was

:21:32. > :21:36.undertaken a couple of years ago by the Health Committee in the

:21:36. > :21:39.Assembly which made it clear they needed to be improvement and there

:21:39. > :21:43.were many recommendations. Unfortunately it looks like many of

:21:43. > :21:46.those recommendations have slip and there has been a report from the

:21:46. > :21:49.Motor neurone disease Association yesterday which made it clear some

:21:49. > :21:55.people are dying whilst waiting for there were tears, that is not

:21:55. > :21:58.acceptable. It has got to change. You have got anecdotal evidence

:21:58. > :22:01.action has not been taken since that initial report. Is there

:22:01. > :22:05.anything that shows those recommendations haven't been

:22:05. > :22:10.implemented? The NHS through its specialist

:22:10. > :22:12.committees has made it clear they are unlikely to reach the full

:22:12. > :22:17.implementation of the recommendations in the report by

:22:17. > :22:21.the end of next month. It makes it also clear they haven't even got

:22:21. > :22:25.proper monitoring arrangements in place to make sure they are on top

:22:25. > :22:30.of accurate figures before waiting lists, assessments, and waiting

:22:30. > :22:33.times for equipment. If they can't measure performance it shows you

:22:33. > :22:39.clearly the year abating missed the target. It is very disappointing

:22:39. > :22:42.people are having to wait for basic repairs for many months sometimes.

:22:42. > :22:45.You can get your car repaired within a day if it breaks down. Why

:22:45. > :22:49.not a wheelchair when it is so important in terms of the quality

:22:49. > :22:58.of life? Interesting to see what the response to that debate is this

:22:58. > :23:01.afternoon. The First Minister I am sure will

:23:01. > :23:04.policy has had a busy week. On Monday he was in Brussels to

:23:04. > :23:08.discuss future European funding. He told European commissioners he

:23:08. > :23:11.wanted Wales to be a strong partner in Europe are to contrast the

:23:11. > :23:15.Scottish government ministers who wanted Wales to remain part of a

:23:15. > :23:24.strong United Kingdom. During a busy lunchtime reception he spoke

:23:24. > :23:29.to our political editor. Clearly you have had some important

:23:29. > :23:32.mission's task messages for the commissioners. This is a showcase

:23:32. > :23:36.of wealth produced and we are able to get the message across about the

:23:36. > :23:39.Good Food we produce in Wales but I have had meetings with

:23:39. > :23:43.commissioners here so they know our view when it comes to European

:23:43. > :23:46.funding in the future for Wales and areas such as farming policy which

:23:46. > :23:50.are very important to urban and rural Wales.

:23:50. > :23:54.The meetings have been short and sweet. Have they changed anything?

:23:54. > :23:57.They always are. What is important is you get your message across in a

:23:58. > :24:02.short space of time. We made it clear it is important for Wales

:24:02. > :24:05.when it comes to European funding in the future, it is not seen as

:24:05. > :24:11.only being made available to open areas because that will only help

:24:11. > :24:15.Cardiff. We have made the backward point in a world context we need to

:24:15. > :24:18.define an open area in a different way. It is that kind of thing that

:24:18. > :24:22.is important in making sure we are maximising money coming into Wales

:24:22. > :24:27.in the future. You were saying you will worried

:24:27. > :24:32.Wales national interest wouldn't be seen properly now in the UK context,

:24:32. > :24:36.do you still have that concern? The mood music coming from the UK

:24:36. > :24:40.has changed. I am happy with it, it is a lot less Euro-sceptic and

:24:40. > :24:45.hostile than it was before Christmas. The reality is on the

:24:45. > :24:49.ground here we work closely with the UK representation, as people

:24:50. > :24:52.would expect, but there will be occasions when we take a different

:24:52. > :24:57.view on Reporting matters and today is about making sure that different

:24:57. > :25:00.view his head. Conservatives say it is empty words

:25:00. > :25:04.and rhetoric but you should get on with the job of spending the money

:25:04. > :25:06.better. That worries me because that

:25:06. > :25:10.suggests the Conservatives in Wales wouldn't bother coming here at all.

:25:10. > :25:15.A lot of money comes into Wales from the rest of the European Union.

:25:15. > :25:17.You have got to chase that money. If we don't do it no one else will.

:25:17. > :25:20.The Conservatives are saying they wouldn't bother to come and the

:25:20. > :25:24.that of money coming into Wales from the rest of Europe would drop

:25:24. > :25:28.under their watch. Are you happy with the new music

:25:28. > :25:33.from Westminster because there has been any direct links that make you

:25:33. > :25:37.feel happier? Or just because of messages you have heard out there?

:25:37. > :25:41.The tone has changed. It was readily hostile before Christmas.

:25:41. > :25:45.It is in our interests off, we receive millions of pounds in

:25:45. > :25:49.European funding, we did want to be cut off from that. UK government is

:25:49. > :25:53.certainly a lot friendlier in terms of Europe and understand better in

:25:53. > :25:57.fact the whole of the UK needs to have a good relationship with our

:25:57. > :26:02.friends and neighbours in Europe. I welcome that change of emphasis.

:26:02. > :26:07.The First Minister talking to our political editor.

:26:07. > :26:11.What did you make of his visit, made peace but he was going out

:26:11. > :26:14.there to tell and don't forget about Wales, but what he was saying

:26:14. > :26:18.sounded quite conciliatory? Wales going to Europe would have a

:26:18. > :26:22.much stronger voice if we were actually an independent country, we

:26:22. > :26:28.could be taken much more seriously in those instances around the table.

:26:28. > :26:32.I am being serious. If we were around the table... But we are not.

:26:32. > :26:36.He is feeling pressure from opposition parties such as

:26:36. > :26:40.ourselves to say, will you stand up for Wales, you say you're they do,

:26:40. > :26:44.what will you do about it but we never really see many results. I

:26:44. > :26:47.don't really know how much effect this visit will have as long as he

:26:47. > :26:51.can try and follow it up in a comprehensive way in terms of

:26:51. > :26:56.inward investment. You will have had to you and your

:26:56. > :27:00.colleagues, your Labour Party group yet -- yesterday morning, did you

:27:00. > :27:03.welcome Colin Jones back as a hero? I don't think it was ever really

:27:03. > :27:07.betrayed like that -- Carwyn Jones. When the problems with Europe

:27:07. > :27:11.occurred between Karen -- Cameron and the other European countries

:27:11. > :27:16.there was felt to be a need to make sure this doesn't represent what we

:27:16. > :27:23.are dealing in Wales. Of course, because the UK government knows it

:27:23. > :27:28.has got its fingers burnt it -- the First Minister is saying things

:27:28. > :27:31.have so often, but here we are, and we don't necessarily go along with

:27:31. > :27:35.some of the things being said and Europe is important to Wales.

:27:35. > :27:39.Standing up for Wales. You said maybe Carwyn Jones wanted

:27:39. > :27:42.to go there and suggest he did have a different view to the UK

:27:42. > :27:47.government. He did say he wanted to make the same position as David

:27:47. > :27:52.Cameron did in the summer before Christmas.

:27:52. > :27:57.I think it was the context within which David Cameron was not only St

:27:57. > :28:02.no, but pulling out of discussions, and saying there was no basis for

:28:02. > :28:05.discussion. Carwyn Jones wouldn't have signed the treaty. He would

:28:05. > :28:10.have maintained a relationship and maintained negotiations in

:28:10. > :28:15.consultation. Signing or not signing is a bit of a red herring.

:28:15. > :28:19.What is important is the actual relationships with Europe and also

:28:19. > :28:23.be opportunities particularly with regard to funding. That is where

:28:23. > :28:26.the difference is, we can open the lines of communication and see the

:28:26. > :28:32.importance of Europe and European funding, and that is important to

:28:32. > :28:35.Wales, it is vitally important to a lot of projects, jobs and future

:28:35. > :28:40.structural developments. Thank you both for your time today.