06/09/2016

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0:00:18 > 0:00:25Has he decided if we will be in Europol, yes or no?

0:00:25 > 0:00:30The honourable lady is an eminent branch --

0:00:30 > 0:00:33was an eminent front bench member and I take her question seriously.

0:00:33 > 0:00:36The Justice and home affairs stream is being assessed

0:00:36 > 0:00:39in that the as we speak and the aim is to preserve the relationship

0:00:39 > 0:00:43with the European Union on security matters as best we can.

0:00:43 > 0:00:46She will remember that last year there was a decision which was made,

0:00:46 > 0:00:49which laid aside about 100 measures which we didn't want to be part

0:00:49 > 0:00:51but kept some including European arrest warrant,

0:00:51 > 0:01:07controversially as she will remember.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10We are of course across that, of course and we are aiming

0:01:10 > 0:01:10to maintain that.

0:01:10 > 0:01:12That is the answer.

0:01:12 > 0:01:17I warmly congratulate my right honourable friend on his return

0:01:17 > 0:01:20to the government front bench after an unfortunate

0:01:20 > 0:01:21hiatus of 20 years.

0:01:21 > 0:01:27Is it not absolutely clear Mr Speaker that my right honourable

0:01:27 > 0:01:29friend has both the skills and the experience for the extremely

0:01:29 > 0:01:32difficult job that lies ahead and surely the whole house

0:01:32 > 0:01:35will wish him every success as he charts those

0:01:35 > 0:01:48extremely difficult waters.

0:01:48 > 0:01:54I must admit I didn't hear the question!

0:01:54 > 0:01:58Flattering as it is I don't intend to pay a fee for it, either!

0:01:58 > 0:02:06We learnt more from the Prime Minister's briefing journalists

0:02:06 > 0:02:09in China of substance than we had in that 15 minute about stakeholders

0:02:09 > 0:02:14and round tables.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18Could he please confirm that the points-based immigration

0:02:18 > 0:02:21system, the cut in VAT on fuel and the ?250 million extra

0:02:21 > 0:02:28every week for the NHS, the three main promises

0:02:28 > 0:02:31of the Leave campaign now lie in tatters.

0:02:31 > 0:02:41The task of my department is to deliver on the three things.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44The British people in the referendum voted for return to Parliament

0:02:44 > 0:02:47of control of their laws, control of our money and control

0:02:47 > 0:02:51of our borders and that is what my department will do.

0:02:51 > 0:02:53What happens then is down to the government and parliament

0:02:53 > 0:02:56but let me deal with one aspect of what he said.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59The points-based immigration system.

0:02:59 > 0:03:08What the Prime Minister said in China was very clear.

0:03:08 > 0:03:18She was concerned that a points-based system

0:03:18 > 0:03:21was actually open-ended, that it did not actually put

0:03:21 > 0:03:24a control on the number of people coming to the UK and therefore

0:03:24 > 0:03:27she wanted something that sounded like it would be more

0:03:27 > 0:03:29vigorous, not less.

0:03:29 > 0:03:33As 47 countries have free trade agreements with the EU

0:03:33 > 0:03:36without accepting any EU control over migration in their countries

0:03:36 > 0:03:39or accepting any contributions to the EU, would my right honourable

0:03:39 > 0:03:44friend confirm that taking back control cannot be negotiated

0:03:44 > 0:03:48with the French, Germans and the others.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52We take back control of those matters and we negotiated they wish

0:03:52 > 0:03:56over trade and would he further confirmed the French and German

0:03:56 > 0:03:59governments have indicated not at all that they wish to impose any

0:03:59 > 0:04:02tariffs on their very profitable trade with us because they don't

0:04:02 > 0:04:03believe in self harm.

0:04:03 > 0:04:07That last point goes to the heart of the question because free trade

0:04:07 > 0:04:10is not something which is a gift from one country to another,

0:04:10 > 0:04:13it is something which is mutually beneficial and I fully expect that

0:04:13 > 0:04:16when we come to do our negotiation with the European Union

0:04:16 > 0:04:19we will see them recognising, France, Germany, all of them,

0:04:19 > 0:04:21as a manufacturing surplus is delivered to us,

0:04:21 > 0:04:25we have a service so plus the other way and I expect we will both gain

0:04:25 > 0:04:30from the free trade agreements that comes out of that negotiation.

0:04:30 > 0:04:38Can I welcome the Secretary of State to his place and also welcomed

0:04:38 > 0:04:42the statement today and the visit he made recently to Northern Ireland

0:04:42 > 0:04:45where he met the First Minister and Deputy First

0:04:45 > 0:04:47Minister and others.

0:04:47 > 0:04:55Can he give us reassurance that as we seek to move forward and make

0:04:55 > 0:04:58a success of Brexit for the whole United Kingdom,

0:04:58 > 0:05:02which is what the British people in its entirety have voted for,

0:05:02 > 0:05:03all parts of it.

0:05:03 > 0:05:06Can he reassure me as a result of this national vote and members

0:05:06 > 0:05:10of the United Kingdom had an equal vote in that and have voted

0:05:10 > 0:05:12overwhelmingly to come out of the European Union,

0:05:12 > 0:05:20can the Secretary of State make it clear that he will work

0:05:20 > 0:05:23with ministers in Northern Ireland closely, but not just at ministerial

0:05:23 > 0:05:27level but that officials within his department will work

0:05:27 > 0:05:29closely with officials in the executive office

0:05:29 > 0:05:32and the Department of the economy and others to ensure we make

0:05:32 > 0:05:33a success of this project?

0:05:33 > 0:05:36I can tell the right honourable gentleman that is already happening.

0:05:36 > 0:05:40Officials in my department and other Whitehall departments are working

0:05:40 > 0:05:43with officials in the Northern Ireland Office to proceed

0:05:43 > 0:05:45on what will be one of the more difficult elements

0:05:45 > 0:05:49of the negotiation because we do have two deal with the issue

0:05:49 > 0:05:52of the border and keeping it open and not returning to the times

0:05:52 > 0:05:57of the recent past.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01I also agree with him in some depth in his statement that this

0:06:01 > 0:06:13is a national decision.

0:06:13 > 0:06:22A whole British nation, a whole United Kingdom nation

0:06:22 > 0:06:24that has decided this.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27Whilst we seek to meet and protect the interests of every part

0:06:27 > 0:06:31of the United Kingdom that does not mean that any part of it

0:06:31 > 0:06:34will have a veto on it, least of all the partisan reasons.

0:06:34 > 0:06:38I welcome my right honourable friend to his responsibilities and further

0:06:38 > 0:06:41welcome his agreement to come before the Foreign Affairs Committee next

0:06:41 > 0:06:45week in order to provide further follow-up to this statement.

0:06:45 > 0:06:49Does he share my assessment that there is a key foreign security

0:06:49 > 0:06:54and defence interest for our 27 European Union partners in finding

0:06:54 > 0:07:06continuing engagement with United Kingdom after Brexit?

0:07:06 > 0:07:09My right honourable friend is right and this is fundamental for one

0:07:09 > 0:07:13of the points I was making in the course of my earlier remarks.

0:07:13 > 0:07:18There is a very strong security, foreign affairs, foreign policy,

0:07:18 > 0:07:22environmental, a whole series of relationships that will continue

0:07:22 > 0:07:25to apply long after we have left the European Union to the benefit

0:07:25 > 0:07:29of both European Union and the United Kingdom.

0:07:29 > 0:07:39Can I welcome warmly the minister to his new position and I know that

0:07:39 > 0:07:44millions of Labour voters who were supporters who voted

0:07:44 > 0:07:47to Leave will be pleased there is someone in this position

0:07:47 > 0:07:51he genuinely wants to get out of the European Union.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54Can I ask him to confirm that there is a real difference

0:07:54 > 0:08:07between wanting to be members of the single market and wanting

0:08:07 > 0:08:10to have access of the single market and some of the Remainers

0:08:10 > 0:08:11should remember that.

0:08:11 > 0:08:15She is right and of course the access to the single market

0:08:15 > 0:08:17is actually not really up for grabs.

0:08:17 > 0:08:19It is there for everybody.

0:08:19 > 0:08:22There are many countries actually outside the European Union that do

0:08:22 > 0:08:26a better job in the single market than we do, even without a trade

0:08:26 > 0:08:28agreement so of course we want to have access

0:08:28 > 0:08:30to the single market, we don't need to be

0:08:30 > 0:08:33a member of its to do it.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36Being a member of that has caused some of the problems of sovereignty

0:08:36 > 0:08:37that this referendum was driven by.

0:08:37 > 0:08:39Congratulations to my right honourable friend

0:08:39 > 0:08:41on his appointment.

0:08:41 > 0:08:53Will he confirm that the vote to Leave requires the repeal

0:08:53 > 0:08:57of the European Communities Act 1972 and will the government bring

0:08:57 > 0:09:22in such a Bill as soon as is reasonably possible?

0:09:22 > 0:09:24The aspects of the European Union Act, European Communities Act 1972

0:09:24 > 0:09:27that are required to be repealed and those aspects that need to be

0:09:27 > 0:09:31carried into British law are very important set of issues that have

0:09:31 > 0:09:31to be decided.

0:09:31 > 0:09:35Once we have got to be proud of deciding that we will

0:09:35 > 0:09:38come back to the House at the first possible opportunity.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41Don't we need more specifics really from the Secretary of State?

0:09:41 > 0:09:44Don't we need to know the example that we can build those

0:09:44 > 0:09:46new relationships and not just wait until after

0:09:46 > 0:09:47the divorce proceedings finished.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50When this weekend the president of the EU commission said he wasn't

0:09:50 > 0:09:53keen on negotiating trade agreements that leave us in limbo.

0:09:53 > 0:10:04It is essential we get on with building knows

0:10:04 > 0:10:08It is essential we get on with building knows --

0:10:08 > 0:10:11those

0:10:11 > 0:10:14the relationships now and dealing with the Brexit issue at the same

0:10:14 > 0:10:17time as making sure that we forge those new relationships?

0:10:17 > 0:10:20We have do have them together, not one after the other.

0:10:20 > 0:10:21How will he secure that?

0:10:21 > 0:10:24He is right and indeed the suggestion from the commission

0:10:24 > 0:10:27that it is somehow illegal for my right honourable friend to go

0:10:27 > 0:10:30and talk to ministers in India, Canada or Australia or where ever

0:10:30 > 0:10:32he is going to next is ridiculous.

0:10:32 > 0:10:36The only thing they can say in legal terms is that we cannot bring

0:10:36 > 0:10:38into force an agreement until after we leave.

0:10:38 > 0:10:41That is perfectly fair and probable stock that is what the laws

0:10:41 > 0:10:43of the European Union are.

0:10:43 > 0:10:46He can take it as read that that is what we are doing.

0:10:46 > 0:10:50We are looking to make sure all that we have the fastest

0:10:50 > 0:10:52transition to our other opportunities that I mentioned

0:10:52 > 0:10:54as fast as possible after Brexit concludes.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57As the same on the other front suggestions we can't talk

0:10:57 > 0:11:00about the trade arrangement with Europe until Article 50's

0:11:00 > 0:11:05process is concluded and we are outside the European Union,

0:11:05 > 0:11:08that too is nonsense and I have looked carefully at several

0:11:08 > 0:11:09different

0:11:09 > 0:11:12versions in different languages of Article 50 and they all refer

0:11:12 > 0:11:23to the parallel negotiations that will take place.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27He can take it as read that on both the counts he is right and on both

0:11:27 > 0:11:29those counts we are pursuing the matter.

0:11:29 > 0:11:33Many of our industries depend on European regulation.

0:11:33 > 0:11:49There is some uncertainty about the future of this law.

0:11:49 > 0:11:51Further to his reply to my honourable friend the chairman

0:11:51 > 0:11:54of the select committee, can he confirm the government

0:11:54 > 0:11:56is going about work establishing the entire corpus of European law,

0:11:56 > 0:12:01establishing all the detail and following the path set

0:12:01 > 0:12:04by countries such as India and Australia when they took on full

0:12:04 > 0:12:07independence, converted the whole of British law into their national

0:12:07 > 0:12:10law and in subsequent years went through it,

0:12:10 > 0:12:12repealed, or improved upon it.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14Yes, my right honourable friend makes a good point.

0:12:14 > 0:12:21It is one of the reasons this process is taking some time.

0:12:21 > 0:12:25The legal interactions of the elements of British

0:12:25 > 0:12:27law and European law are not straightforward.

0:12:27 > 0:12:30My initial starting position was we put them all into law

0:12:30 > 0:12:31and take it from there.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35It doesn't quite work like that.

0:12:35 > 0:12:39That is why it is taking a little while but he can be sure

0:12:39 > 0:12:43that my legal section and my lawyers up on that issue as we speak

0:12:43 > 0:12:48and will come up with conclusions as quickly as they can

0:12:48 > 0:12:53and when they do, I will tell the House what their conclusion is.

0:12:53 > 0:12:58Scotland's fishing communities were due to receive over 100 million

0:12:58 > 0:13:12euros between now and 2020 from the EU.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14euros between now and 2023 from the EU.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17The Secretary of State today has committed to support our

0:13:17 > 0:13:20agricultural committees by guaranteeing that funding

0:13:20 > 0:13:21will be matched.

0:13:21 > 0:13:24Will he make a similar commitment to fishing communities to honour

0:13:24 > 0:13:27funding in the current funding round?

0:13:27 > 0:13:32Sadly, I didn't make the commitment, the Chancellor made the commitment

0:13:32 > 0:13:35and, well, with great respect, it isn't up to me to make

0:13:35 > 0:13:38commitments on behalf of the Treasury but what I will say

0:13:38 > 0:13:46to her is this.

0:13:46 > 0:13:49He made the commitment - if she reads and we will put a copy

0:13:49 > 0:13:52of the letter in the library, which he laid out the underpinning

0:13:52 > 0:13:55of the common agricultural policy and structural funds and science

0:13:55 > 0:13:58fund that he make the point clearly that this was effectively his

0:13:58 > 0:14:01decision until the Autumn Statement.

0:14:01 > 0:14:10What I would say to her and I will reflect it to him myself

0:14:10 > 0:14:18is what he has said so that before the Autumn Statement he is aware

0:14:18 > 0:14:19of her concerns.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22One of the legitimate concerns of many

0:14:22 > 0:14:25Remain voters was a fear that an unduly long period of uncertainty

0:14:25 > 0:14:29one negotiations were going on would be damaging for the British economy.

0:14:29 > 0:14:37Could my honourable friend then confirmed that it would be his piety

0:14:37 > 0:14:39to complete this process as soon as the, that the --

0:14:39 > 0:14:40his priority.

0:14:40 > 0:14:44That the two years to complete this is an arbitrary maximum and that

0:14:44 > 0:14:47countries which have left a political union,

0:14:47 > 0:14:51like Canada, Australia or India have done so in far less than two years.

0:14:51 > 0:14:57I defer to his knowledge of history on the other countries.

0:14:57 > 0:15:00What I will say to him is this.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03The Prime Minister has said that we will not trigger article

0:15:03 > 0:15:0450 until the New Year.

0:15:04 > 0:15:11The reason for that is not unnecessary delay or wasting time.

0:15:11 > 0:15:18It is to make sure we get all the decisions absolutely right.

0:15:18 > 0:15:21He has heard in the last few minutes about some of the complexity

0:15:21 > 0:15:23involved in the Acquis Communautaire alone.

0:15:23 > 0:15:26So what we will do is we will trigger article 50 as soon

0:15:26 > 0:15:39as is reasonably possible.

0:15:39 > 0:15:43I would rather be a month late and get it right than be a month

0:15:43 > 0:15:44early and get it wrong.

0:15:44 > 0:15:47We will do so as expeditiously as possible.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50The Prime Minister has said in clear terms that she thinks the British

0:15:50 > 0:15:52people expect us to get on with this.

0:15:52 > 0:15:53Angela Eagle.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55Unravelling 40 years of close corporation within the

0:15:55 > 0:16:09European Union with 27 nation states is, as the right gent is learning,

0:16:09 > 0:16:12gentleman is learning,

0:16:12 > 0:16:14is very complex issue.

0:16:14 > 0:16:18-- the right honourable gentleman, and as he he give us a view of how

0:16:18 > 0:16:21that is going and Kenny givers a few on workers prove rights,

0:16:21 > 0:16:24equal pay for equal value, weedy keeping that, with the EU laws

0:16:24 > 0:16:27guaranteeing pension payments if they are deferred wages still be

0:16:27 > 0:16:28recognised by this House?

0:16:28 > 0:16:32He talks about the sovereignty of Parliament.

0:16:32 > 0:16:36Will he give this Parliament much more of a say on the deal

0:16:36 > 0:16:38that is done?

0:16:38 > 0:16:42And is his government intending to give the British people a say

0:16:42 > 0:16:46on the deal when it is done?

0:16:46 > 0:16:49I will start by saying that we got our instructions

0:16:49 > 0:16:53from the British people to do this in the first place.

0:16:53 > 0:16:56But she raises some serious issues.

0:16:56 > 0:16:59Yes, of course, my views on the importance of Parliamentary

0:16:59 > 0:17:03accountability have not changed because I have moved

0:17:03 > 0:17:04four benches forward.

0:17:04 > 0:17:08I still believe that we should be as open with Parliament

0:17:08 > 0:17:11as it is possible to be in a negotiation.

0:17:11 > 0:17:23I am appearing before the Foreign Affairs Select Committee

0:17:23 > 0:17:25soon and undertaking -- an undertaking I made

0:17:25 > 0:17:29some time ago.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32I am doing the same with the House of Lords committee.

0:17:32 > 0:17:35On the question of employment rights, I would say that a very

0:17:35 > 0:17:39large component of the people who voted to leave the European Union

0:17:39 > 0:17:41could be characterised as the British industrial working

0:17:41 > 0:17:41class.

0:17:41 > 0:17:44And it is no part of my brief to undermine their rights.

0:17:44 > 0:17:49For a start.

0:17:49 > 0:17:51Nicky Morgan.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53Thank you, Mr Speaker.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56I welcome the Secretary of State to his new role.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00I think he is right that we need to respect the result of the 23rd

0:18:00 > 0:18:03of June and he is also right that people wanted further

0:18:03 > 0:18:06controls on immigration.

0:18:06 > 0:18:11They don't feel confident in the immigration Wallasey

0:18:11 > 0:18:12is that we have had.

0:18:12 > 0:18:14I don't know -- policies that we have had.

0:18:14 > 0:18:17But the missing words are single market.

0:18:17 > 0:18:21We will be arguing between access to the single market and the freedom

0:18:21 > 0:18:39of people to come to this country.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42When will the government set out its views on the fundamental point.

0:18:42 > 0:18:44I start from a disagreement with the honourable lady.

0:18:44 > 0:18:48The simple truth is, as I said earlier, that the negotiation over

0:18:48 > 0:18:52free trade with the European Union is something that will be

0:18:52 > 0:18:54to the benefit of both sides.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57Beneficial for us and the European countries themselves.

0:18:57 > 0:19:00The question of immigration and control of immigration is a very

0:19:00 > 0:19:02high priority for this government as the Prime Minister

0:19:02 > 0:19:03has made plain.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06So I am afraid that I don't agree with the fundamental tenet

0:19:06 > 0:19:07of the question.

0:19:07 > 0:19:13I don't think that is a natural trade-off.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16The negotiation has got to be very much on what is in the mutual

0:19:16 > 0:19:21benefit of this country and the European Union.

0:19:21 > 0:19:3445 Japanese companies operate in Wales supporting some 6000 jobs

0:19:34 > 0:19:35mainly in tech manufacturing.

0:19:35 > 0:19:38Manufacturing itself is worth ?9 billion to the Welsh economy.

0:19:38 > 0:19:41What assurances can the government give to those companies

0:19:41 > 0:19:43and the workers that the Welsh economy will not be

0:19:43 > 0:19:45harmed by Brexit?

0:19:45 > 0:20:00It is the same assurance that I give to all my factory operations

0:20:00 > 0:20:05-- manufacturing operations in the UK.

0:20:05 > 0:20:08The aim of this because the Asian -- to all manufacturing operations.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12The aim of this negotiation is to get the best deal that we can.

0:20:12 > 0:20:15Getting access to the European markets and also exploiting the best

0:20:15 > 0:20:21arrangements with the non-European markets.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24On manufacturing alone, the quantity of exports that we make

0:20:24 > 0:20:28to the European Union is exceeded by the exports we make to those

0:20:28 > 0:20:31countries with whom we have no free trade agreement at all.

0:20:31 > 0:20:39So once we get a free trade agreement, or many of them,

0:20:39 > 0:20:42as my right honourable friend will do, we won't see downside,

0:20:42 > 0:20:47we will see opportunities.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50Oh, yes, a most exotic delicacy in the House, Mr Michael Gove.

0:20:50 > 0:20:52Thank you, Mr Speaker.

0:20:52 > 0:20:54Can I congratulate my friend on his long overdue return

0:20:54 > 0:20:57to ministerial office.

0:20:57 > 0:21:00In the seven short weeks since he has been in office

0:21:00 > 0:21:03alongside our new Foreign Secretary and our new Secretary of State

0:21:03 > 0:21:07for International trade, we have seen a record increase

0:21:07 > 0:21:14in service industries' growth, in manufacturing industry grows,

0:21:14 > 0:21:21a 3.3% increase in motor car sales, and also the Speaker of the US

0:21:21 > 0:21:36Congress, the promise of Australia and the Prime Minister

0:21:36 > 0:21:39-- the prime minister of Australian and of New Zealand pressing for free

0:21:39 > 0:21:41trade agreements with this country

0:21:41 > 0:21:44while the deputy Chancellor of Germany has acknowledged

0:21:44 > 0:21:46that the EU- US trade deal is dead in the water.

0:21:46 > 0:21:50Does that not confirm that the 17 million people who voted to leave

0:21:50 > 0:21:53the European Union in this country know a darn sight more

0:21:53 > 0:21:59about economics and the members of the IMF, the OECD,

0:21:59 > 0:22:02the IFS and all these other experts who have egg on their face?

0:22:02 > 0:22:07My right honourable friend is not known for understating his case!

0:22:07 > 0:22:17But I would point out that it was 17.5 million people that

0:22:17 > 0:22:19made that judgment.

0:22:19 > 0:22:20And he is right.

0:22:20 > 0:22:23Much of the doom and gloom, the fear mongering that went

0:22:23 > 0:22:27on before the referendum, has been proven wrong.

0:22:27 > 0:22:30That being said, I would not be quite so unalloyed optimistic

0:22:30 > 0:22:50as he is because we are in a world in which there are a lot

0:22:50 > 0:22:51of economic pressures going on.

0:22:51 > 0:22:54That is why the meetings in China are going on now.

0:22:54 > 0:22:57So I think that he makes a point brilliantly, as always.

0:22:57 > 0:23:01And I agree with the main thrust of it but let's not get too

0:23:01 > 0:23:02optimistic before we close the deal.

0:23:02 > 0:23:05The Secretary of State said he wants to have the supremacy

0:23:05 > 0:23:06of this Parliament.

0:23:06 > 0:23:09If we are a sovereign, supreme Parliament, why is this

0:23:09 > 0:23:12Parliament not going to have a decision as to

0:23:12 > 0:23:28when we trigger article 50?

0:23:28 > 0:23:31We did, it was called a Referendum Act and it was passed

0:23:31 > 0:23:32by 6-1 in this Parliament.

0:23:32 > 0:23:33Mr Dominic Grieve.

0:23:33 > 0:23:34Thank you.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37May I congratulate my right honourable friend in his abysmal

0:23:37 > 0:23:40failure to avoid high office over ten years.

0:23:40 > 0:23:43It is a great pleasure to see him in his place.

0:23:43 > 0:23:46May I also reassure him that as someone who supported his Remain

0:23:46 > 0:23:49campaign, that I see it is my absolute duty to support

0:23:49 > 0:23:52the government in giving effect to the public desire to leave

0:23:52 > 0:24:04the European Union including supporting the limitation

0:24:04 > 0:24:07the government of article 50.

0:24:07 > 0:24:11My right honourable friend pointed out that the matter

0:24:11 > 0:24:13is legally complex.

0:24:13 > 0:24:15It also concerns the Acquis Communautaire, the conferring

0:24:15 > 0:24:18of private legal rights on individuals in this country

0:24:18 > 0:24:19which have the force of statute.

0:24:19 > 0:24:23And I have to say to my right honourable friend that the idea

0:24:23 > 0:24:26that those should simply be revoked by our exit, without parliamentary

0:24:26 > 0:24:31approval, troubles me very much.

0:24:31 > 0:24:34And it appears to me to be an abdication of the responsibility

0:24:34 > 0:24:35of this House.

0:24:35 > 0:24:45I accept that in many cases, they have been created

0:24:45 > 0:24:48by Henry VIII's clauses, the unsatisfactory nature of the EU.

0:24:48 > 0:24:55But if we cannot scrutinise them before Article 50 is invoked,

0:24:55 > 0:24:57we will be allowing the government to dispose

0:24:57 > 0:24:59of private property rights, including intellectual

0:24:59 > 0:25:00property, by decree.

0:25:00 > 0:25:19And that troubles me very much.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21I would ask him to use ingenuity to find ways

0:25:21 > 0:25:22of resolving this dilemma.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25It's a pleasure to hear from my right honourable

0:25:25 > 0:25:27friend long-time friend.

0:25:27 > 0:25:29But he is over interpreting what I have said.

0:25:29 > 0:25:33Article 50 is the beginning of this process, it is not the end.

0:25:33 > 0:25:35There will be many opportunities for this House to scrutinise

0:25:35 > 0:25:38what we are about to do after article 50 takes Place.

0:25:38 > 0:25:44But it is somewhat futile before we actually start the negotiations

0:25:44 > 0:25:47because some of those negotiations have a direct impact on the rights

0:25:47 > 0:25:48he is talking about.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51He can take it from me, I didn't spend all those years

0:25:51 > 0:25:53on the backbenches defending there is right,

0:25:53 > 0:25:55to give them up now.

0:25:55 > 0:25:58Hilary Benn.

0:25:58 > 0:26:02Does the Secretary of State agree that it would be a good idea to find

0:26:02 > 0:26:05some way of maintaining a form of cooperation on foreign policy

0:26:05 > 0:26:08after we leave the European Union because even after exit,

0:26:08 > 0:26:11we will still be very much part of Europe and there are a great

0:26:11 > 0:26:14number of challenges around the world on which we will have

0:26:14 > 0:26:17to continue to work with our European neighbours?

0:26:17 > 0:26:19The right honourable gentleman is absolutely right.

0:26:19 > 0:26:24And the tradition in this country in maintaining strong effective

0:26:24 > 0:26:28alliances, generally for good in the world at large is one that

0:26:28 > 0:26:49I fully expect to continue.

0:26:49 > 0:26:52Indeed, one aspect of the picture that I see

0:26:52 > 0:26:55of the future that I see is that Britain will continue to be a good

0:26:55 > 0:26:58global citizen as it always has been and cooperation on foreign

0:26:58 > 0:27:00policy is part of that.

0:27:00 > 0:27:00Cheryl Gillan.

0:27:00 > 0:27:03May I add my congratulations to my right honourable friend.

0:27:03 > 0:27:07It is good to see him in his natural habitat at the dispatch box.

0:27:07 > 0:27:09Businesses in the UK are not just concerned about access

0:27:09 > 0:27:11to the single market.

0:27:11 > 0:27:16They are concerned about other matters and a unitary patient

0:27:16 > 0:27:18and the proposed new unitary patient caught, unified patient caught,

0:27:18 > 0:27:40has been eagerly anticipated.

0:27:40 > 0:27:43You currently are required to file a separate page ands

0:27:43 > 0:27:45in separate countries.

0:27:45 > 0:27:47The UK was due to ratify this agreement.

0:27:47 > 0:27:50Will he confirm that the UK will ratify this agreement

0:27:50 > 0:27:54and we will continue to pay a full part in a British businesses benefit

0:27:54 > 0:27:56from being able to be part of a unified patient authority.

0:27:56 > 0:27:59I will say this to my right honourable friend.

0:27:59 > 0:28:02For as long as we are a member of the European Union,

0:28:02 > 0:28:05which will be at least two micro years, we will meet

0:28:05 > 0:28:07all our obligations and we will take our

0:28:07 > 0:28:14responsibilities extremely seriously.

0:28:14 > 0:28:17Can I ask the Secretary of State to face the House.

0:28:17 > 0:28:22Sometimes his answers are not fully heard.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25They are hard by the person he is looking at.

0:28:25 > 0:28:35All I can do is plead inexperience, Mr Speaker.

0:28:35 > 0:28:45Yes!

0:28:45 > 0:28:48May I congratulate the Secretary of State on his return to the front

0:28:48 > 0:28:51bench and thank you for his answer to all those Labour constituencies

0:28:51 > 0:28:54who voted to leave and in making control of our borders

0:28:54 > 0:29:03the cornerstone of negotiations.

0:29:03 > 0:29:06Can I take him back to the question that the Member for Woking asked.

0:29:06 > 0:29:09Given the huge trade surplus Europe has with us,

0:29:09 > 0:29:11how does he think that power position will play out

0:29:11 > 0:29:17when we are talking about membership of or access to the single

0:29:17 > 0:29:19market?

0:29:19 > 0:29:22Well, it is early days to forecast negotiations

0:29:22 > 0:29:38but he is right there is a large trade surplus.

0:29:38 > 0:29:39of the referendum campaign that was lost in cars

0:29:39 > 0:29:41from Germany alone for example.

0:29:41 > 0:29:44With the European Union facing economic difficulties I don't think

0:29:44 > 0:29:47they will want to create problems for themselves in creating bilateral

0:29:47 > 0:29:50arrangements that hurt themselves.

0:29:50 > 0:29:54So, the way I think it will play out is over the course of the period

0:29:54 > 0:29:57concerned people will start to focus on what their own

0:29:57 > 0:29:58national interest is.

0:29:58 > 0:30:02My experience of the European Union is that the commission makes a great

0:30:02 > 0:30:04deal of public statements that at the end of the day

0:30:04 > 0:30:07it is the national interest of the individual countries that

0:30:07 > 0:30:10actually decide the outcome

0:30:15 > 0:30:17You're under arrest.

0:30:17 > 0:30:18You're going to prison.

0:30:18 > 0:30:21In what sense are you free?

0:30:21 > 0:30:23I live at a level of intensity

0:30:23 > 0:30:26unknown to you and others of your type.

0:30:26 > 0:30:29You will never know the almost God-like power that I feel

0:30:29 > 0:30:32when that last bit of breath leaves a body...

0:30:32 > 0:30:37VOICE DISTORTS That feeling of complete possession.

0:30:39 > 0:30:40SHE TAKES A BREATH

0:30:43 > 0:30:45PLAYS FANFARE