:03:29. > :04:00.Welcome to Hull, the city I am proud to call home. The city I hope to
:04:01. > :04:02.represent in Parliament and the city that has the distinction of being
:04:03. > :04:22.the UK's City of Culture 2017. From the freedom festival to the
:04:23. > :04:29.newly fushished gallery, to the truck company, from our university
:04:30. > :04:33.to our museums. Hull is a cultural centre and City of Cultural status
:04:34. > :04:36.is adding to our national and international representation. We
:04:37. > :04:44.have so much to look forward to in Hull. Whatever your tastes we have
:04:45. > :04:49.the BBC One big weekend, the Proms, the Turner Prize, the royal
:04:50. > :04:54.Shakespeare's visit. Hundreds of events across the four themeds? .
:04:55. > :04:58.That makes Hull the perfect place for Labour to launch its pledges. A
:04:59. > :05:04.creative future for all. So, I am very pleased to introduce and to
:05:05. > :05:09.welcome back to Hull the deputy Leader of the Labour Party and
:05:10. > :05:11.Labour's Shadow Secretary of State for culture rks, media and sport Tom
:05:12. > :05:27.Watson. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. It is
:05:28. > :05:32.fantastic to be back. Emma, thank you for that excellent introduction.
:05:33. > :05:39.I used to live in Hull and I have very great and fond memories of the
:05:40. > :05:50.stismt indeed, I went back to visit some of my former haunts last night.
:05:51. > :05:54.Do any of you know the small music venue called the Adelpy. Paul
:05:55. > :05:58.Jackson still runs it. Last time I was there was 25 years ago. He said
:05:59. > :06:03.to me, are you going to try and blag your way in for free, like you used
:06:04. > :06:08.to? Not a lot changes. Actually it did change, because I paid ?3 to get
:06:09. > :06:16.in last night. I saw three acts. Now that is culture for the people. ?3
:06:17. > :06:21.for free bands. I saw an act called Katie Spencer, who had such a
:06:22. > :06:25.distinguishing guitar playing style, it reminded me of the first time I
:06:26. > :06:31.ever heard John Martin play. If you want to see an up and coming artist
:06:32. > :06:37.look for Katie Spencer. What is the point I am trying to make? The point
:06:38. > :06:41.I am trying to make is those of us who have lived here always knew that
:06:42. > :06:48.Hull was a City of Culture. But it is just... That is Katie
:06:49. > :06:52.Spencer's agent on the phone! It is fantastic it's been finally made
:06:53. > :06:59.official. And I am immensely proud of this city. I am immensely proud
:07:00. > :07:03.to be Shadow Culture Secretary. Jeremy and I share an ambition to
:07:04. > :07:08.ensure that millions of people who want to enjoy arts and culture have
:07:09. > :07:13.the opportunity to do so. We are here today to hear Jeremy outline
:07:14. > :07:17.Labour's vision for the arts and the creative industries. That is if Carl
:07:18. > :07:21.can switch his phone off in time for us all to hear the speech! I am sure
:07:22. > :07:28.everyone in this room knows how important this sector is. Just for
:07:29. > :07:33.the avoidance of doubt, the creative industries contribute ?84 billion a
:07:34. > :07:39.year to our economy. They provide 2 million jobs. Art council figures
:07:40. > :07:41.show every pound of public investment returns ?5 in tax
:07:42. > :07:48.contributions from the sector as a whole.
:07:49. > :07:52.The creative industries can regenerate whole communities. This
:07:53. > :07:55.city knows this better than most. With Labour in power, Hull has seen
:07:56. > :07:59.the benefits of investment in culture and the arts and how that
:08:00. > :08:03.can drive regional economic growth and regeneration. The creative
:08:04. > :08:09.industries will be judged on the amount of revenue they generate. But
:08:10. > :08:16.there's another measure that's less easy to quantify. And that is the
:08:17. > :08:19.benefit of more people reading, listening to music, painting,
:08:20. > :08:27.visiting galleries or exploring our heritage. The unique things that
:08:28. > :08:30.Britons create give our nation a particular way of speaking to the
:08:31. > :08:34.world. An influence that doesn't come from military power or economic
:08:35. > :08:38.success alone. But from what people love about us.
:08:39. > :08:42.When it comes to the cultural sector, we are admired around the
:08:43. > :08:49.plan et. We have global clouds beyond our size. And whatever
:08:50. > :08:53.uncertainty lies ahead, we can be at the heart of a global culture. Now
:08:54. > :08:59.our economy is set to be transformed by automation. And we need to
:09:00. > :09:04.respond to that by becoming a more creative nation and teaching arts
:09:05. > :09:08.and culture is one way to do that. And even more important than that,
:09:09. > :09:13.is the way arts let us talk to the world. It is the way arts let us
:09:14. > :09:19.talk to each other. I believe access to the arts and culture is
:09:20. > :09:24.profoundly civilising. They broaden our horizons. They help us
:09:25. > :09:27.understand each other. To be more tolerant of each other's
:09:28. > :09:32.differences. They help us build communities and right now n the
:09:33. > :09:36.midst of the upset and division that the referendum caused, it feels like
:09:37. > :09:42.we very much need that. It feels like we need the shared experiences
:09:43. > :09:46.this sector provides. The things we all watch, we make, listen to. The
:09:47. > :09:53.museums we visit. The art galleries we go to. The video games we play.
:09:54. > :09:58.And when I first got the job as Shadow Secretary I read the speeches
:09:59. > :10:05.of Jenny Le, the first ever arts minister. She believed access to the
:10:06. > :10:08.arts was as fundamental to our health and happiness as the National
:10:09. > :10:13.Health Service. I agree with her. The Tories, not so much. The arts
:10:14. > :10:17.and culture are always one of the things they target. Art council and
:10:18. > :10:22.local authority spending on culture and the arts has fallen by hundreds
:10:23. > :10:29.of millions of pounds since the Tories came to power in 2010. And
:10:30. > :10:32.the past seven years has seen arts and culture systematically removed
:10:33. > :10:36.from our education system, leading to a collapse in the numbers of
:10:37. > :10:44.students taking art, music and drama.
:10:45. > :10:52.Under a Labour government, arts and culture will be getting the funding
:10:53. > :10:57.they need to prosper. 1 billion cultural capital fund will let us
:10:58. > :11:01.upgrade existing facilities, and one of the great things about this job
:11:02. > :11:06.is the people you meet and the places you get to visit. I have met
:11:07. > :11:18.kids in new who have been given free music lessons thanks to a Labour
:11:19. > :11:21.mayor. I have visited the Whitworth Gallery in Manchester and saw rows
:11:22. > :11:26.of parked up in arms because it is so popular with mothers and their
:11:27. > :11:30.young children. A Labour government will replace the creative industries
:11:31. > :11:37.at the heart of our industrial strategy, leaving... So that when we
:11:38. > :11:46.leave the European Union it will put the creative industries first. And a
:11:47. > :11:52.Labour government will put inclusivity at the heart of all we
:11:53. > :11:54.do. Access to arts and culture, the opportunity to pursue a career
:11:55. > :12:00.creating something they love... These things should be available to
:12:01. > :12:04.everyone, not just the privileged few. I'm going to pass you on to
:12:05. > :12:10.someone who knows just how important access to the arts and culture can
:12:11. > :12:15.be. She is someone I have admired from afar for long time. She's one
:12:16. > :12:17.of our finest actors and she's incredibly brave. Please welcome
:12:18. > :12:40.Samantha APPLAUSE. You'll have to excuse me,
:12:41. > :12:47.I've never done anything like this before but I think now the time. I
:12:48. > :12:55.am going to read off this. I am really thrilled to be here today in
:12:56. > :13:00.Hull, the UK's city of culture 2017 to introduce Labour pledges for the
:13:01. > :13:04.arts and creative industries, and I'm especially pleased that Labour a
:13:05. > :13:11.sporting access to the arts for all at the heart of its pledges. The
:13:12. > :13:17.creative arts have so much to offer us all, whether as audiences or as
:13:18. > :13:26.creators. We have all had our lives enriched by a song or the poem, a
:13:27. > :13:31.novel or a dramatic performance, even an image, a painting. Art is
:13:32. > :13:39.not an afterthought to what elections are fought over, art is
:13:40. > :13:44.what makes our lives worthwhile, it's a political issue. Every time a
:13:45. > :13:49.museum, gallery or library closes down or a child is denied the chance
:13:50. > :13:56.to study and artistic subject, or a young person with talent as to
:13:57. > :13:59.abandon a promising career in theatre or music because they cannot
:14:00. > :14:04.afford to support themselves, that is a loss to all of us. I come from
:14:05. > :14:09.a working-class background, and without drama teachers at school and
:14:10. > :14:13.the inspiration they gave me, and the opportunities they opened up in
:14:14. > :14:17.my life, my life would have been very different. I certainly wouldn't
:14:18. > :14:22.have been here today, and I couldn't have had the career I have had if my
:14:23. > :14:29.talents had not been identified and spotted and supported at a really
:14:30. > :14:33.early age. There are young people growing up today who have huge
:14:34. > :14:38.artistic talent, but who don't have the support they need to develop it
:14:39. > :14:42.properly. Artistic careers should not be restricted to those with the
:14:43. > :14:48.most family wealth behind them or those who go to the most expensive
:14:49. > :14:52.schools, and that is why it is so important that Labour's policies to
:14:53. > :14:57.make sure children have the opportunity to study artistic
:14:58. > :15:01.subjects in school and to build up our cultural institutions so that
:15:02. > :15:10.everyone can use them are put into effect. That is why I am Labour, and
:15:11. > :15:12.I hope you are too. Please welcome the leader of the Labour Party, Mr
:15:13. > :15:40.Jeremy Corbyn. APPLAUSE Samantha, thank you for the
:15:41. > :15:44.introduction, thank you for your talent and the way you inspire so
:15:45. > :15:47.many young actors to achieve what you have achieved.
:15:48. > :15:52.We are really honoured and proud you are here today to launch our
:15:53. > :15:57.cultural manifesto. Thank you very much indeed.
:15:58. > :16:01.APPLAUSE. I look forward to you joining
:16:02. > :16:08.Carlisle and Diana as three brilliant representatives of Labour
:16:09. > :16:14.for Hull, thank you for being here today. I also want to thank Tom
:16:15. > :16:18.Watson, a former Hull university student, I cannot claim to be that
:16:19. > :16:22.but he will be an absolutely brilliant secretary of the state for
:16:23. > :16:26.culture, media and sport in the next government because he is totally
:16:27. > :16:29.dedicated to the brief he has got and the determination that culture
:16:30. > :16:33.should be there for everyone. Thank you for what you said this morning
:16:34. > :16:42.and everything you are doing in this campaign. Actually there could be no
:16:43. > :16:48.better place to launch our cultural manifesto, and during the hour after
:16:49. > :16:53.the general election was announced, Tom and I put our heads together and
:16:54. > :17:01.said culture launch will be in Hull, and it is, and we are here. It is
:17:02. > :17:08.Labour's guarantee of culture for all and it is right we are here. In
:17:09. > :17:11.the last Labour government, Andy Burnham was impressed by how
:17:12. > :17:15.Liverpool had been transformed after being made the European city of
:17:16. > :17:21.culture, and I was in Liverpool over the weekend and we had an incredible
:17:22. > :17:27.music event over the water in the Wirral. 20,000 people turned up to a
:17:28. > :17:33.football stadium to enjoy music. That is the mixture of sport and
:17:34. > :17:38.music and inspiration of so many people. Andy proposed the idea that
:17:39. > :17:43.every four years we should have a UK city of culture. He was unable to
:17:44. > :17:47.guarantee that speakers in an election campaign don't lose their
:17:48. > :17:53.voice, and thanks to the brilliant bid put forward by Hull City
:17:54. > :17:58.Council, Hull was chosen to be the city of culture. Congratulations to
:17:59. > :18:06.Hull, well done on the bid you have put forward. These things don't
:18:07. > :18:12.happen by accident, they happen with very, very hard work by a lot of
:18:13. > :18:18.people. Hull had hoped to encourage an extra million people to visit
:18:19. > :18:25.Hull during 2017. One third of a million visited in the first week,
:18:26. > :18:29.and I'm not surprised - look at what we have offered. Anyone arriving at
:18:30. > :18:35.Hull Station, the first thing you see is a replica of Amy Johnson's
:18:36. > :18:40.plane made by prisoners to help them learn new skills, which is excellent
:18:41. > :18:44.for anyone in prison, but also as a gift to this wonderful city in
:18:45. > :18:50.memory of one of its favourite daughters, Amy Johnson. Well done
:18:51. > :18:59.Hull, well done to the prisoners, well done to Amy Johnson. A 200 foot
:19:00. > :19:07.wind turbine blade made locally went on display in Queen Victoria Square.
:19:08. > :19:13.The poppies had 450,000 visits in two months, and finally you created
:19:14. > :19:22.the Sea of Hull by encouraging 3000 local people... Yes, it is very
:19:23. > :19:26.broad-minded... To strip naked, paint themselves blue, and be
:19:27. > :19:31.photographed in the early hours of Saturday morning. These photos taken
:19:32. > :19:36.by a brilliant photographer, Spencer to Nick, are now on display in the
:19:37. > :19:40.refurbished Ferens Art Gallery. So in a very nice way, the people of
:19:41. > :19:48.Hull made an exhibition of themselves. I would like to thank
:19:49. > :19:58.Labour council leader Steve Brady for his hard work in helping deliver
:19:59. > :20:03.the city for culture. APPLAUSE Steve, well done you and
:20:04. > :20:09.your colleagues and well done Martin Green also for the hell people to to
:20:10. > :20:13.achieving this because this is a team that achieved something
:20:14. > :20:17.brilliant for the city. We can see what transformative
:20:18. > :20:21.powers of culture have done for Hull, not just attracting visitors
:20:22. > :20:26.in creating world-class cultural events, but here in Humber Street
:20:27. > :20:30.where a former fruit market is being regenerated into a thriving cultural
:20:31. > :20:36.hub, creating new businesses and jobs. The new Humber Street
:20:37. > :20:41.contemporary art gallery next door has seen 60,000 visits in the first
:20:42. > :20:47.six weeks. It's estimated that being the UK city of culture will bring
:20:48. > :20:51.?60 million in economic boost to the city of Hull this year alone, that
:20:52. > :20:56.is an achievement everybody should be very proud of. And this city that
:20:57. > :21:03.has done so much for this country, brought so much art and poetry and
:21:04. > :21:08.inspiration, is a model we can all learn from. And now Labour wants to
:21:09. > :21:14.replicate what we have seen in Hull across the rest of Britain. Here is
:21:15. > :21:24.why. Our music industry alone contributes ?4 billion to our
:21:25. > :21:33.economy each year, but every Adele has to start somewhere. Small the
:21:34. > :21:40.news and larger ones give artists the first break as they learn their
:21:41. > :21:46.craft. -- small venues. But over the last ten years in London alone, 40%
:21:47. > :21:50.of small venues have closed. That means there is nowhere for budding
:21:51. > :21:55.musicians to perform, there is a loss of rehearsal space. Where are
:21:56. > :22:00.the next generation of musicians going to come from if we take away
:22:01. > :22:06.the facilities now? This Conservative government has made
:22:07. > :22:11.matters even worse. Since 2010, they have slashed 48 million funding for
:22:12. > :22:17.the arts councils in England, Wales and Scotland. There is creativity in
:22:18. > :22:25.everyone. Labour's mission will be to set that creativity free. We need
:22:26. > :22:30.to give people the opportunity for all the creativity to flourish, so
:22:31. > :22:35.today we unveil our cultural manifesto, which sets out a bold and
:22:36. > :22:41.inspiring programme to encourage creativity. We are pledging ?1
:22:42. > :22:46.billion to launch a new cultural capital fund to support our world
:22:47. > :22:51.leading cultural industries that have been savaged by Conservative
:22:52. > :22:57.cuts. We will end austerity to boost creativity. It will be amongst the
:22:58. > :23:03.biggest arts infrastructure funding ever created, it will boost arts,
:23:04. > :23:06.theatre and literature, upgrading our cultural infrastructure for the
:23:07. > :23:12.digital age and supporting our economy. It will also invest in
:23:13. > :23:16.creative clusters across the country based on a similar model to business
:23:17. > :23:21.enterprise zones. I don't want to see just one city benefit from this
:23:22. > :23:26.transformative powers of culture every four years. Our cultural
:23:27. > :23:32.capital fund will help many more towns and cities benefit all round.
:23:33. > :23:39.The fund will be administered by the arts Council, a Labour generation,
:23:40. > :23:44.over a five-year period and helped transform our country's cultural
:23:45. > :23:51.landscape. We will also protect and invest in music venues to support
:23:52. > :23:54.grass roots and professional music, ensuring a healthy music industry
:23:55. > :24:02.right across the country in every town and city. Labour will review
:24:03. > :24:07.the business rate system to make it fairer to organisations like music
:24:08. > :24:11.venues. This is actually very important, very practical help we
:24:12. > :24:15.can give, extending the thousand pound pub relief to help small music
:24:16. > :24:20.venues which are suffering from extraordinary rate rises at the
:24:21. > :24:26.present time. We will also maintain something that we are very proud of
:24:27. > :24:31.in the Labour Party, and what Kris Smith achieved when he was our
:24:32. > :24:38.Secretary of State in 1997. We will maintain free museums and invest in
:24:39. > :24:47.our heritage sector. APPLAUSE I remember Chris explained
:24:48. > :24:52.to me how he went to the National museums after they had been made
:24:53. > :24:56.free and suddenly everybody could be there.
:24:57. > :24:59.Before that they couldn't. Our national heritage is National for
:25:00. > :25:07.everybody, not just those that can afford it.
:25:08. > :25:12.The heritage sector is central to both the identity and economy of
:25:13. > :25:17.local communities across the country because access to culture is vital
:25:18. > :25:22.for the emotional and intellectual growth of all our people, but
:25:23. > :25:26.especially important for young people. We want to unleash the
:25:27. > :25:33.potential of every young person, not just through education in the normal
:25:34. > :25:40.school setting, but also through culture, in every of us there is a
:25:41. > :25:46.poet, writer, a singer of songs, an artist, a creative thinker. But too
:25:47. > :25:51.few of us are able to fulfil any kind of artistic ambition. Under the
:25:52. > :25:54.Conservatives it's getting worse. Per-pupil funding for schools will
:25:55. > :26:01.be cut for the first time in a generation.
:26:02. > :26:08.Forced to send out begging letters to parents for donations to keep the
:26:09. > :26:15.schools running. This is a shameful state of affairs. So, we will be, in
:26:16. > :26:22.addition to properly funding our schools, scrapping tuition fees and
:26:23. > :26:25.introducing universal free school meals in our primary schools,
:26:26. > :26:29.something pioneered here in Hull. But we will go further...
:26:30. > :26:44.Labour will introduce an arts pupil premium that will allow every
:26:45. > :26:50.primary school child in England the chance to learn a musical
:26:51. > :26:55.restaurant, take part in drama -- instrument, take part in drama, have
:26:56. > :27:02.regular access to galleries and museums. Labour will not only feed
:27:03. > :27:03.our children's stomachs, but feed their minds and unleash their
:27:04. > :27:21.creativity. The arts pupil premium will provide
:27:22. > :27:25.?165 million per year to boost creative education and ensure arts
:27:26. > :27:28.facilities in state schools match standards found only now in many
:27:29. > :27:35.private schools. We will deliver a creative future
:27:36. > :27:42.for all and a culture for the many, not the few. But we need your help.
:27:43. > :27:48.If people want to see these transformative changes, then they
:27:49. > :27:56.have to be able to vote. Those who are not on the register have 12
:27:57. > :28:05.hours, 26 minutes to get registered. 12 hours, 26 minutes. It will take
:28:06. > :28:11.you two minutes. Since the election was called, more than two million
:28:12. > :28:18.people have registered to vote. 40% of them aged between 18-24.
:28:19. > :28:24.So, my message is simply this - if you are being held back, and want to
:28:25. > :28:30.lead a richer life, then get registered and have your say.
:28:31. > :28:37.We can stop a Conservative Government that wants to pit the old
:28:38. > :28:41.against the young. And replace it with a Labour Government that offers
:28:42. > :28:46.hope and unity. A Government for the many, not the
:28:47. > :28:50.few. A Government that ensures that
:28:51. > :28:55.culture is for all. And I'm very proud of the manifesto we're putting
:28:56. > :29:00.forward. I'm very proud of the culture and creative part of this
:29:01. > :29:06.manifesto. This country is so brimming with talent.
:29:07. > :29:10.Let's let that creativity, that talent, that genius be unleashed.
:29:11. > :29:16.Because culture is for the many, not the few. Thank you very much indeed.
:29:17. > :30:14.Well, before we start the questions, I'd just like to say this, in 2011,
:30:15. > :30:21.when we became the administration in Hull, it was a question of either
:30:22. > :30:25.managing decline or going for growth.
:30:26. > :30:32.And the sensible thing, the most sensible thing to do, we knew quite
:30:33. > :30:38.well was to go for growth. Growth produces jobs. It gives hope to the
:30:39. > :30:44.people. And part of that, we got together with business, with the
:30:45. > :30:51.voluntary sector, with the arts community and we developed that plan
:30:52. > :30:56.and I can say this, that in four years, that plan and all the things
:30:57. > :31:05.that we had in that plan has succeeded. We plan to get 7500 jobs
:31:06. > :31:15.in a ten-year period, we've achieved that in four years.
:31:16. > :31:24.That is everybody in Hull working together. It is what was needed. We
:31:25. > :31:32.needed that Hull and the futures for our young people. What we've seen,
:31:33. > :31:38.what we are seeing now is an upsurge in regeneration and investment.
:31:39. > :31:43.Never before seen in this City. Just in the last 18 months announcements
:31:44. > :31:51.and actual now developments have occurred to the tune of just under
:31:52. > :31:55.?3 billion in this city. A total transformation of the city centre,
:31:56. > :32:03.where people are so proud to come into. There are art galleries. We've
:32:04. > :32:10.expanded the offer to the public. We've increased the hours of our art
:32:11. > :32:15.galleries and the other cultural things in this city, so we have not
:32:16. > :32:23.gone in to decrease or to close down. We have increased. And through
:32:24. > :32:28.that, we're now seeing a huge number of jobs created in the city centre
:32:29. > :32:35.alone. And I just have to say this, if anybody doubts that the City of
:32:36. > :32:41.Culture should actually stop, come to Hull and see the reasons why it
:32:42. > :32:46.should go on. I'm going to take questions now from the media and the
:32:47. > :32:56.first one is from the Press Association.
:32:57. > :33:03.George Osborne has tweeted to say the Tories will U-turn on their
:33:04. > :33:08.social care policy and they will introduce a social care cost cap. I
:33:09. > :33:12.want to get your reaction to that. That was George Osborne, was it? Did
:33:13. > :33:17.that come from the Tory central office or from The Evening Standard?
:33:18. > :33:20.It's going to be in The Evening Standard.
:33:21. > :33:35.I would suggest to you that he probably knows. We will take them in
:33:36. > :33:41.threes and Rachel from RTV. Good morning.
:33:42. > :33:46.Labour have been running education in Wales since 2011 and yet tuition
:33:47. > :33:52.fees there are the same as in England, ?9,000 aer. Why should
:33:53. > :33:59.students in England trust you on tuition fees? And Kier, from the
:34:00. > :34:05.Daily Mirror. Morning. The last two sets of
:34:06. > :34:10.opinion polls have been single dig get-leads for the Tories. What do
:34:11. > :34:17.you think is behind that? And do you think you can keep going? OK. Thanks
:34:18. > :34:21.for your questions. A Tory U-turn on social care would be extremely
:34:22. > :34:28.welcome, because I want this country to face up to its responsibilities
:34:29. > :34:32.to those who need care, either frail elderly, those with special needs,
:34:33. > :34:37.those with severe disabilities, those with learning difficulties and
:34:38. > :34:41.our proposals are that we will refund social care, putting
:34:42. > :34:45.emergency money into it now, so those million people waiting for
:34:46. > :34:49.social care don't wait and we won't get involved in this horrible policy
:34:50. > :34:53.the Tories are putting forward, which will actually damage families
:34:54. > :34:58.and family income, damage people, break up relationships, all kinds of
:34:59. > :35:01.horrible things will happen from their very dangerously ill thought
:35:02. > :35:07.out social care policy. And if George Osborne is at last doing
:35:08. > :35:10.something useful in his life of supporting proper funding of social
:35:11. > :35:15.care, then thank you, George, for that. And I urge him to read very
:35:16. > :35:21.carefully what's in our manifesto on social care. Rachel, thanks for your
:35:22. > :35:27.point. We put forward a very clear funded and credible policy of what
:35:28. > :35:33.we'll do on university fees. We do so because if we carry on with this
:35:34. > :35:36.process of ever rising fares and under Conservatives the threat of
:35:37. > :35:41.lifting the cap all together, then what happens is two things. One is
:35:42. > :35:45.those that have achieved enough to get into university, gone through
:35:46. > :35:51.university, leave with debts of often ?50,000 and more than that.
:35:52. > :35:55.And if they earn more than ?21,000 they have to start repaying it, but
:35:56. > :36:00.the debt is still there for a long time after that.
:36:01. > :36:04.I'm determined that university education should be available for
:36:05. > :36:09.all. And that is why we've gone into this in a lot of detail, after a lot
:36:10. > :36:15.of debate and discussion and looked at it and decided, yes, we will make
:36:16. > :36:19.this offer of removing the university fees, reinstating the
:36:20. > :36:22.maintenance grant for those who need it at university and reinstating the
:36:23. > :36:27.Educational Maintenance Allowance, so that young people can continue to
:36:28. > :36:30.do A levels or vocational qualifications and have some degree
:36:31. > :36:33.of independence and self-respect in what they are doing. We do that
:36:34. > :36:37.because we want all young people to have the chance of going to
:36:38. > :36:42.university. Since the fees have gone up to ?9,000 under the coalition
:36:43. > :36:46.Government, the numbers of working class youngsters going to university
:36:47. > :36:50.has declined. The number of university applications has started
:36:51. > :36:57.to go down. Surely, we should be investing in our future. Somebody
:36:58. > :37:00.who doesn't achieve the profession they want, nursing, teaching,
:37:01. > :37:04.medicine in some other form, engineering - whatever it happens to
:37:05. > :37:09.be, they lose out. But we as a society lose out because we've lost
:37:10. > :37:12.a qualified person who can help improve our industries, improve our
:37:13. > :37:16.services, improve our quality of life. We're determined to do it. And
:37:17. > :37:20.we're going to do it when we've won the election on June 8th.
:37:21. > :37:33.Kier, thanks very much for your question, I'm not commenting on any
:37:34. > :37:37.polls that are going on. The only poll I am interested in is the one
:37:38. > :37:41.on June 8th. What I would say is, the numbers of people who are
:37:42. > :37:46.registered to vote in this election are extraordinary. The numbers of
:37:47. > :37:48.people that are volunteering to help the Labour election campaign are
:37:49. > :37:54.extraordinary. And the numbers of people making
:37:55. > :37:57.small donations, average of ?22 to our election funds says something
:37:58. > :38:02.about the popularity of the manifesto we put forward and the
:38:03. > :38:06.views that are there in it. This election is obviously very
:38:07. > :38:12.important. Very important for the future direction this country leads.
:38:13. > :38:17.What I do is invite everyone to take part in conversations over the next
:38:18. > :38:21.two weeks. Conversations about whether you want a Government that
:38:22. > :38:25.continues to tax cutting corporations, tax cutting the
:38:26. > :38:30.wealthiest in our society and continuing to underfund schools.
:38:31. > :38:33.Underfund education, underfund social care, underfundamental
:38:34. > :38:38.health. Deny the arts the support they need and deny industry the
:38:39. > :38:42.investment it needs in a better infrastructure across the whole
:38:43. > :38:47.country. So we get high-quality railway lines to every city,
:38:48. > :38:50.including Hull. That we get good broadband, contact rate, access
:38:51. > :38:56.rates all over the country. The Labour offer is about an expanding
:38:57. > :39:02.economy, which will improve employment, improve wages and living
:39:03. > :39:05.standards or a continuation of the grotesque levels of inequality that
:39:06. > :39:08.exist in Britain. That's the Labour offer.
:39:09. > :39:26.We will take questions from the audience. Any questions from the
:39:27. > :39:30.audience? Jeremy, we have a society that we want, we have a society that
:39:31. > :39:37.we want to be built on equality. I know that is what you are attempting
:39:38. > :39:41.to deliver. Have you a keen message for younger voters, such as my two
:39:42. > :39:44.daughters who are hoping to go to university and a son that wants to
:39:45. > :39:49.get into qualifications that's a message of hope for them. I know our
:39:50. > :39:56.policies are there. But it is key to us, as parents and as those who have
:39:57. > :40:00.young people, still a few years off, but she's going to be there, but we
:40:01. > :40:04.want to make sure that those young people and their parents understand
:40:05. > :40:08.the real importance of why they need to vote Labour in June, because
:40:09. > :40:12.we've got to win this election. This is a one-off. If we don't, we're
:40:13. > :40:15.damaged. Not us, I'm talking about, as a
:40:16. > :40:19.party, I'm talking about the country. How do we get by this and
:40:20. > :40:37.how do we deliver? We have one of the best school music
:40:38. > :40:42.services in the country, do you think your preset for every primary
:40:43. > :40:49.school pupil will enable such centres of excellence to spring up
:40:50. > :41:09.all over the country? Any further questions? Anybody in the audience?
:41:10. > :41:20.Thank you. Lynn Davidson from the Sun. No, we don't boo journalists.
:41:21. > :41:29.The Northern Ireland Secretary has challenged you today, he has asked
:41:30. > :41:38.five questions on the IRA asking should IRA's murdered the condemned
:41:39. > :41:44.unequivocally by IRA terrorists. If they are, would you unequivocally
:41:45. > :41:49.condemned the IRA as terrorists? Thanks to James Brogan Shire for his
:41:50. > :41:53.questions, I condemn all acts of violence in Northern Ireland from
:41:54. > :41:57.well wherever they came. I spent the 1980s representing a constituency
:41:58. > :42:02.with a large number of Irish people in it -- Northern Irish people in
:42:03. > :42:07.it. We wanted justice and a solution. The first ceasefire helped
:42:08. > :42:10.bring that about and helped bring about those talks which were
:42:11. > :42:14.representative of all sections of opinion in Northern Ireland and the
:42:15. > :42:20.Labour government after 1997 helped bring in the historic Good Friday
:42:21. > :42:23.Agreement, the base of which was the recognition of the differing
:42:24. > :42:29.cultural histories and values of Northern Ireland, and it stood the
:42:30. > :42:33.test of time and it is still there. We have a devolved administration in
:42:34. > :42:38.Northern Ireland, and I think we should recognise that the piece was
:42:39. > :42:42.achieved by a lot of bravery both in the unionist community as well as in
:42:43. > :42:47.the nationalist community. People that walked a very difficult extra
:42:48. > :42:51.mile when they were under pressure from the communities not to do so,
:42:52. > :42:56.both Republicans and unionists walked that extra mile and brought
:42:57. > :43:00.the Good Friday Agreement and I think we should use this election is
:43:01. > :43:08.thanking those that brought about the Good Friday Agreement.
:43:09. > :43:13.APPLAUSE All of them. Those in Government at the time as well as
:43:14. > :43:17.those who did so much on the ground, and Northern Ireland is a very
:43:18. > :43:20.different place. We will be working with the devolved administration in
:43:21. > :43:24.Northern Ireland as well as the Government of the Republic to make
:43:25. > :43:34.sure wrecks it doesn't bring about a barbed wire border -- to make sure
:43:35. > :43:39.Brexit doesn't bring about a barbed wire border. Of the other two
:43:40. > :43:47.questions raised, thank you. This election is about two views and
:43:48. > :43:50.visions of Britain. Either the absolute 21st-century cutting-edge
:43:51. > :43:55.ideas put forward by the Conservative Party, which seemed to
:43:56. > :44:00.revolve around restoration of fox hunting and selective education, or
:44:01. > :44:04.our view which is one which is about giving opportunities for all. We
:44:05. > :44:09.cannot go on being the lifeguard of industrial investment of all the
:44:10. > :44:13.major industrial countries in the world. We cannot go on underfunding
:44:14. > :44:18.crucial services and short-changing our young people who are offered
:44:19. > :44:23.little except greater costs and greater debt and less opportunity.
:44:24. > :44:28.And so we are not going into this awful game of setting off the young
:44:29. > :44:32.against the old, saying to the young you have got to pay for the costs of
:44:33. > :44:35.the older people, saying to the older people you are under some kind
:44:36. > :44:41.of threat because of what we want to spend on education. In reality we
:44:42. > :44:46.all depend on each other. Young people need the support and wisdom
:44:47. > :44:51.of older people, older people need to be encouraged and infused by
:44:52. > :44:57.younger people so our manifesto is for all. This is your chance. People
:44:58. > :45:04.lay down their lives so that you might vote. Women's right to vote
:45:05. > :45:08.came about because of the bravery of suffragettes and many others around
:45:09. > :45:15.the time of the First World War, but it also started here in Hull. Mary
:45:16. > :45:20.Wollstonecraft wrote the rights of women, and that is part of the
:45:21. > :45:24.origins of that whole democratic movement. Hull has taught the world
:45:25. > :45:29.a great deal and I tell the people this is your chance... Your chance
:45:30. > :45:33.to vote in this election, your chance to express your democratic
:45:34. > :45:41.view and I hope you will recognise we are determined unserious to
:45:42. > :45:45.properly fund education, culture and the arts, properly invest in service
:45:46. > :45:51.industry growth for the future so your skills, your genius can
:45:52. > :45:55.contribute to a better quality of life for everybody. Please take part
:45:56. > :45:58.in the election, but above all have that discussion, ask the difficult
:45:59. > :46:05.questions of each other and everyone else between now and election day,
:46:06. > :46:17.that is what an election should be about, proper debate and discussion,
:46:18. > :46:22.and I'm enjoying every minute of it. APPLAUSE And on your point about
:46:23. > :46:26.music, I congratulate Hull because of the traditions it has got in
:46:27. > :46:31.culture and so many other things but also the way in which you have a
:46:32. > :46:35.council which is serious about young people learning music. When young
:46:36. > :46:39.people achieve things together it is quite inspiring, and it's the role
:46:40. > :46:44.of local education authorities that is also important in this. I went to
:46:45. > :46:49.the Royal Albert Hall to see a concert a couple of years ago,
:46:50. > :46:53.absolutely brilliant. Huge orchestras of 100 children coming
:46:54. > :46:58.together, you think how does the conductor manage it? But the joy of
:46:59. > :47:03.those children there performing together. You go to libraries where
:47:04. > :47:08.there are some reading projects and you see the joy of children who have
:47:09. > :47:13.read six books, talked about it and felt inspired by it, carrying on
:47:14. > :47:17.using the libraries so I want to rule that out across the country.
:47:18. > :47:22.The areas seeing the theatres and libraries closed, schools with lack
:47:23. > :47:27.of instruments and that kind of thing, it isn't going to cost a lot
:47:28. > :47:33.of money in order to reinstate so much of that, and that is why Tom
:47:34. > :47:37.and I are serious about this people arts premium to make sure everyone
:47:38. > :47:42.gets a chance. Don't leave it just those whose parents are able to
:47:43. > :47:46.spend enough money to get their children into private theatre
:47:47. > :47:53.schools or private music lessons. Let's make it mainstream. Do well in
:47:54. > :47:58.music, you do well in maths. It is part and parcel of our creativity
:47:59. > :48:03.and our lives. I think what we have proposed today in Hull is something
:48:04. > :48:07.that will transform the cultural landscape of this country in exactly
:48:08. > :48:16.the same way the 1960s Labour government led by Harold Wilson and
:48:17. > :48:18.the fantastic Minister of arts, Jennie Lee, transformed the ideas
:48:19. > :48:27.and notions of culture. There is creativity in us all, rich or poor.
:48:28. > :49:43.Thank you very much. APPLAUSE Good morning and welcome to the
:49:44. > :49:46.launch of the Conservative Party manifesto in Wales and it was in
:49:47. > :49:52.north Wales the Prime Minister had the plans to call a general election
:49:53. > :49:56.in the national interest. Our plan for a stronger Wales,
:49:57. > :50:03.stronger Britain and prosperous future. As we leave the European
:50:04. > :50:08.Union, union of the United Kingdom is more important now than ever
:50:09. > :50:15.before, and as Secretary of State, I have seen it first hand, the Prime
:50:16. > :50:20.Minister's commitment to Wales and the union. Since her very first
:50:21. > :50:23.speech on the steps of Downing Street, Theresa May has put the
:50:24. > :50:31.union at the heart of her programme for government. And we have a strong
:50:32. > :50:34.record in Wales. City, region deals in Cardiff and Swansea with a
:50:35. > :50:39.commitment to a north Wales growth deal. Investment in railways with
:50:40. > :50:43.plans to modernise across Wales, and a fair funding formula, something
:50:44. > :50:48.many had complained about for decades but it was this Prime
:50:49. > :50:53.Minister who agreed a new funding settlement for Wales within her
:50:54. > :50:59.first six months in office. But this manifesto is about our future, and
:51:00. > :51:09.whatever plans we have, making a success of Brexit will be key. It
:51:10. > :51:16.essential to our economy, central to our future stability and security.
:51:17. > :51:21.At this time of change, change that could threaten the union, it has
:51:22. > :51:27.never been more important to have a strong and stable leadership in the
:51:28. > :51:32.national interest. A Prime Minister that is ready to take the difficult
:51:33. > :51:39.decisions and ready to face 27 nations that could be lining up to
:51:40. > :51:44.oppose us. I have the privilege to introduce someone that is a true
:51:45. > :51:48.friend of Wales, a true champion of the union, and someone that will
:51:49. > :51:56.always act in the interests of our whole country. Please welcome the
:51:57. > :52:10.Prime Minister. APPLAUSE
:52:11. > :52:17.Thank you very much and it is good to be here in Wrexham today with
:52:18. > :52:24.just 17 days to go until this crucial general election. Just 11
:52:25. > :52:29.days after that, the European Union wants the Brexit negotiations to
:52:30. > :52:38.begin. The UK's seat at the negotiating table will be filled by
:52:39. > :52:43.me or Jeremy Corbyn. The deal we seek negotiated by me or Jeremy
:52:44. > :52:47.Corbyn. There will be no time to waste and no time for a new
:52:48. > :52:52.government to find its way so the stakes in this election are high.
:52:53. > :52:56.Our future prosperity, our standard of living, our place in the world,
:52:57. > :53:01.and the opportunities we want for our children and our children's
:53:02. > :53:06.children are either in the strong hand you grant me by supporting my
:53:07. > :53:11.candidates in this election or the weak hand off Jeremy Corbyn backed
:53:12. > :53:16.by the Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru and the SNP who don't want
:53:17. > :53:22.Brexit to succeed. It is your choice, your decision. Every vote
:53:23. > :53:27.for me and my team in this election will be a vote to strengthen my hand
:53:28. > :53:34.in the negotiations to come. Every vote for any other party - Labour,
:53:35. > :53:39.the Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru - is a vote to send Jeremy Corbyn into
:53:40. > :53:43.the negotiating chamber on our behalf and that is the stark reality
:53:44. > :53:49.of the choice we must focus on over the next 17 days. Because our future
:53:50. > :53:56.prosperity depends on getting the next five years right. That's why we
:53:57. > :54:05.need someone representing Britain who is 100% committed to the cause.
:54:06. > :54:08.Not someone who is uncertain or unsure, but someone utterly
:54:09. > :54:13.determined to deliver the democratic will of the British people, because
:54:14. > :54:16.if we don't get this right, the consequences for the United Kingdom
:54:17. > :54:24.and for the economic security of ordinary working people will be
:54:25. > :54:28.dire. If we do, the opportunities ahead are great. The Welsh
:54:29. > :54:33.Conservative manifesto I launched today is a plan to make the most of
:54:34. > :54:38.the opportunities together. It is a plan to make Wales and our union
:54:39. > :54:44.stronger. For this manifesto sets out a vision of Britain around which
:54:45. > :54:49.I believe we can all unite. It is the mainstream manifesto of a
:54:50. > :54:54.mainstream party determined to deliver for mainstream Britain. And
:54:55. > :55:01.to all those who work hard and make this country what it is, I say this
:55:02. > :55:06.- if you have a job but don't always have job security, I am backing you.
:55:07. > :55:11.If you own your own home but worry about paying the mortgage, I am
:55:12. > :55:14.backing you. If you can just about manage but worry about the cost of
:55:15. > :55:19.living and getting your children into a good school, I am backing
:55:20. > :55:25.you. If you feel you have been let down and left behind by politics and
:55:26. > :55:32.government for far too long, I am backing you.
:55:33. > :55:44.APPLAUSE And to all the decent men, women and
:55:45. > :55:50.families you meet in countless towns and villages across Wales and the
:55:51. > :55:56.country, I am backing you. To those for whom life is often much harder
:55:57. > :56:00.than many seem to think or realise, I am backing you. For those who want
:56:01. > :56:06.to do their best for their children and given a fair chance to get on, I
:56:07. > :56:11.am backing you. I am backing those who want a more secure and full
:56:12. > :56:17.life. I am backing those whose only wish is that the children will do
:56:18. > :56:22.better than themselves, and to those who look to the Government and
:56:23. > :56:27.politicians for little help and support, I am backing you too.
:56:28. > :56:31.Because too often in the past, ordinary working people have found
:56:32. > :56:39.the help and support they need just isn't there. And I know that sense
:56:40. > :56:43.of disenchantment is particularly acute here in Wales. We saw that
:56:44. > :56:48.when people here in Wrexham and across Wales chose to ignore the
:56:49. > :56:52.hysterical warnings of labour, Plaid Cymru and Liberal Democrat
:56:53. > :56:57.politicians in Cardiff Bay and voted to leave the EU. We see it now in
:56:58. > :57:03.the way the same politicians refuse to accept that vote as they try to
:57:04. > :57:11.find new ways to put obstacles in our way and the cause of that
:57:12. > :57:13.emerging golf is clear - it is because the Labour Party has taken
:57:14. > :57:35.people in Wales granted for decades. They have been charging Cardiff Bay
:57:36. > :57:38.for nearly 20 years. Some Parliamentary constituencies have
:57:39. > :57:45.returned nothing but a Labour MP for a century or more. Welsh Labour have
:57:46. > :57:51.come to believe they have a right to govern. Yet during their time in
:57:52. > :57:57.charge, the performance of Wales' public services has fallen further
:57:58. > :58:01.and further behind. The Welsh NHS is failing because Labour cut its
:58:02. > :58:03.budget. The A waiting times and cancer treatment targets haven't
:58:04. > :58:16.been met for nearly a decade. ' it is little wonder Welsh voters
:58:17. > :58:20.chose to send a message to the politicians in the referendum last
:58:21. > :58:26.June. That should have been a wake-up call, but it wasn't. Labour,
:58:27. > :58:30.Plaid Cymru and Liberal Democrat politicians ignored Wales instead.
:58:31. > :58:35.Worse, they closed ranks with Plaid Cymru propping up Labour in Wales in
:58:36. > :58:39.order to defend the status quo, as they are determined to do in
:58:40. > :58:46.Westminster too. That would put Jeremy Corbyn in power in a
:58:47. > :58:53.coalition of chaos, and you don't negotiate the right Brexit deal for
:58:54. > :58:58.Britain from a position of weakness. Jeremy Corbyn's coalition of chaos
:58:59. > :59:01.would deliver higher taxes, higher debt and higher unemployment.
:59:02. > :59:04.Labour's policies may have been written by Jeremy Corbyn in London,
:59:05. > :59:10.but the people of Wales will get the bill. But it's not just that Jeremy
:59:11. > :59:15.Corbyn is too weak and shambolic to get the right deal for Britain in
:59:16. > :59:19.Europe, not just that his fantasy manifesto would leave families
:59:20. > :59:26.across Wales picking up the bill, it is also that even traditional Labour
:59:27. > :59:30.supporters, people like those in Wrexham and across Wales who have
:59:31. > :59:34.loyally given the Labour Party allegiance for generations, people
:59:35. > :59:38.taught by their parents and grandparents that Labour was a party
:59:39. > :59:43.that shared their values and stood up for the community, they look at
:59:44. > :59:49.what Jeremy Corbyn believes and they are appalled. They see a party that
:59:50. > :59:52.once believed in hard work, now headed by Jeremy Corbyn who wants to
:59:53. > :59:59.crush aspirations and desert those who hope for a better life. A party
:00:00. > :00:03.that once stood for our union of Nations, now headed by a man who is
:00:04. > :00:10.willing to collaborate with separatists in order to get into
:00:11. > :00:13.power. A Labour Party that first established or independent nuclear
:00:14. > :00:18.deterrent to keep our country safe, now led by a man who wants to get
:00:19. > :00:22.rid of it and even talks about abolishing the army. The prospect of
:00:23. > :00:28.him walking through the door of Number Ten, flanked by an avowed
:00:29. > :00:34.Marxist like John McDonnell and an incompetent Diane Abbott, all
:00:35. > :00:40.propped up by the Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru and others, should scare
:00:41. > :00:52.us all. APPLAUSE The risk is real and the
:00:53. > :00:59.stakes are high. A loss of just six seats will cost the Government
:01:00. > :01:03.majority and create a hung parliament. Just six fewer MPs means
:01:04. > :01:09.a hung parliament in which the minor parties will flock to prop up Jeremy
:01:10. > :01:15.Corbyn. That will deliver nothing but chaos. It means Jeremy Corbyn
:01:16. > :01:21.imposed as Prime Minister, propped up by the Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru
:01:22. > :01:27.Anderson P, all of whom oppose the decision to leave the EU and want to
:01:28. > :01:31.fight to keep us in. And who knows what deals Jeremy Corbyn will do to
:01:32. > :01:37.get the support, because we know he would do anything to get their
:01:38. > :01:42.support. And after the weekend, we now know the tactics he is prepared
:01:43. > :01:46.to adopt to get into Number Ten. He has no strong plan for Britain,
:01:47. > :01:52.which takes on the country's long-term challenges like I have. He
:01:53. > :01:56.wants to sneak over the line by manipulating the fears of old and
:01:57. > :02:00.vulnerable people and falsely claiming families will lose their
:02:01. > :02:05.house as a result of our social care policy. That is shameful, and it is
:02:06. > :02:14.a shameful abdication of responsibility.
:02:15. > :02:21.So today, I want to put an end to Jeremy Corbyn's fake claims and
:02:22. > :02:27.clarify any doubts about our social care policy and the family home. My
:02:28. > :02:32.manifesto is honest and upfront about our challenges. It includes
:02:33. > :02:37.plans to strengthen the social care system with more unsustainable
:02:38. > :02:43.funding to cope with the long-term pressures caused by the fact that we
:02:44. > :02:47.are an ageing society. Jeremy Corbyn wants to duck this reality and play
:02:48. > :02:53.politics. But there will be 2 million more people over 75 years
:02:54. > :02:58.old in Britain over the next decade alone. Our social care system will
:02:59. > :03:03.collapse unless we make some important decisions now about how we
:03:04. > :03:12.fund it. That is why we have two act. And it is why, to give people
:03:13. > :03:16.security, we included in our plans, measures to make sure that nobody
:03:17. > :03:20.has to sell the family home to play -- to pay for care. And we also said
:03:21. > :03:26.that we would protect ?100,000 of your savings. So however expensive
:03:27. > :03:33.your care, you can pass something onto your family. Let's be clear.
:03:34. > :03:38.This plan replaces the existing system, where people often get poor
:03:39. > :03:43.quality care and stand to lose almost all their savings and assets
:03:44. > :03:47.including the family home. This plan addresses the worry people have when
:03:48. > :03:50.they have a loved one with a long-term condition and they don't
:03:51. > :03:56.know how they are going to afford to care for them. So these are good and
:03:57. > :04:00.sensible plans. They provide the beginning of a solution to social
:04:01. > :04:07.care, without increasing taxes on younger generations. And I should
:04:08. > :04:11.say, we are the only party in this election prepared to face up to the
:04:12. > :04:18.reality of our ageing society and offer a long-term solution. But
:04:19. > :04:22.since my manifesto was published, the proposals have been subject to
:04:23. > :04:27.fake claims made by Jeremy Corbyn. The only things he has left to offer
:04:28. > :04:33.in this campaign are fake claims, fear and scaremongering. So I want
:04:34. > :04:38.to make a further point clear. This manifesto says that we will come
:04:39. > :04:41.forward with a consultation paper. A government Green paper. And that
:04:42. > :04:46.consultation will include an absolute limit on the amount people
:04:47. > :04:51.have to pay for their care costs. So let me reiterate, we're proposing
:04:52. > :04:56.the right funding model for social care. We will make sure nobody has
:04:57. > :04:59.to sell their family home to pay for care. We will make sure there is an
:05:00. > :05:04.absolute limit on what people need to pay. And you will never have to
:05:05. > :05:10.go below ?100,000 of your savings, so you will always have something to
:05:11. > :05:14.pass on to your family. And what is Jeremy Corbyn's plan? He promises a
:05:15. > :05:20.nonsensical fantasy policy that can only be funded through massive tax
:05:21. > :05:24.rises on younger generations. In fact, just recently, he threatened
:05:25. > :05:30.to increase the basic rate of income tax for millions of people from 20
:05:31. > :05:34.to 25%, to fund social care. That tells you everything you need to
:05:35. > :05:39.know about Jeremy Corbyn's answer to the problem. The alternative is that
:05:40. > :05:43.he sticks to the status quo, which too often provide support care and
:05:44. > :05:51.leaves old and vulnerable people having to sell their family homes.
:05:52. > :05:55.This manifesto, our -- our manifesto, provides a better way.
:05:56. > :05:58.With it I am leading Britain while Mr Corbyn is simply scaremongering
:05:59. > :06:03.among the elderly and the vulnerable. It is a strong forays --
:06:04. > :06:06.plan for a stronger union and a stronger Wales. It plan to respond
:06:07. > :06:11.to and deliver on the concerns of ordinary working people everywhere.
:06:12. > :06:15.A plan to build a country that works for everyone not the privileged few.
:06:16. > :06:22.It is a detailed programme for government. Rooted in the hopes and
:06:23. > :06:27.aspirations of ordinary working people in towns and cities across
:06:28. > :06:32.the country. A clear plan to meet the big challenges we face together.
:06:33. > :06:36.Because unlike the other parties, we are being upfront and honest with
:06:37. > :06:45.the British people about the scale of the task we face. That is what
:06:46. > :06:48.leadership is about. Not ducking the big decisions. Painting grand and
:06:49. > :06:53.fantastical visions, pretending you can have something for nothing, and
:06:54. > :06:55.no difficult decisions need to be made. Leadership means being
:06:56. > :07:02.straight with people about the challenges ahead and the hard work
:07:03. > :07:07.required to overcome them. And that is what this manifesto does. It sets
:07:08. > :07:12.out the five great challenges faced by our country. One, the need for a
:07:13. > :07:17.strong economy. Two, responded to Brexit and a changing world. Three,
:07:18. > :07:23.tackling enduring social divisions. Four, responding to an ageing
:07:24. > :07:28.society. And five, facing up to fast changing technology. And it sets out
:07:29. > :07:31.what we will do to address each one. And these are challenges that we all
:07:32. > :07:37.face, right across our United Kingdom. And the lesson of Britain's
:07:38. > :07:43.history is that we all do best when we tackle challenges together.
:07:44. > :07:46.United. That is how we have overcome obstacles in the past. And that is
:07:47. > :07:52.how we will make a success of our future. In setting out our plan, we
:07:53. > :07:57.are offering a vision for our United Kingdom not just for the next five
:07:58. > :08:01.years, but for the years and decades beyond. A country where everyone has
:08:02. > :08:07.the economic security they need and the chance to live a secure and full
:08:08. > :08:15.life. A prosperous country, where each generation can do better than
:08:16. > :08:18.the last. But that all starts with getting the right Brexit deal. One
:08:19. > :08:26.that works for the whole United Kingdom. When I sit down with the
:08:27. > :08:30.Prime Minister's -- PMs, chancellors of Europe, I would do so as the
:08:31. > :08:34.Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. When I fight
:08:35. > :08:36.for the best deal, it will be a deal that works for the whole of the
:08:37. > :08:40.United Kingdom. And when I talk about a better future for our
:08:41. > :08:45.country, I mean the whole United Kingdom. Because unlike Jeremy
:08:46. > :08:50.Corbyn, I believe heart and soul in this great union of Nations. And if
:08:51. > :08:53.you give me your backing to represent you at the negotiating
:08:54. > :08:58.table in Europe in the months ahead, I will fight for every person in
:08:59. > :09:03.this United Kingdom. Young and old, rich and poor, city, town, country,
:09:04. > :09:07.and all the villages and hamlets in between. It is my fierce
:09:08. > :09:11.determination to get the right deal for every single person in this
:09:12. > :09:16.country. And every vote for me and my team in this election will
:09:17. > :09:20.strengthen my hand at the negotiations and help me deliver the
:09:21. > :09:24.right deal for Britain. A vote for anyone else is a vote to send Jeremy
:09:25. > :09:32.Corbyn to represent us in Europe instead. Because it may say Labour,
:09:33. > :09:37.Liberal Democrat or Plaid Cymru on the ballot, but it is Jeremy Corbyn
:09:38. > :09:41.that gets the vote. And if we get Brexit right, if we are strong in
:09:42. > :09:45.our negotiations with the EU, we can do more to build a stronger Britain
:09:46. > :09:50.and a stronger Wales here at home. Too often in the past, UK
:09:51. > :09:55.governments have tended to devolve and forget. The government Eilidh
:09:56. > :10:00.will put that right. That is why this manifesto contains clear
:10:01. > :10:06.commitments to spread opportunity and prosperity beyond London and the
:10:07. > :10:11.south-east, and to improve the economic security of people here in
:10:12. > :10:14.Wales. Why it includes a specific commitment to bring forward in North
:10:15. > :10:19.Wales growth deal, connecting North Wales with Northern England, to
:10:20. > :10:23.encourage cross-border working, building on the success of the
:10:24. > :10:28.Cardiff City deal, and Swansea Bay city deal that I signed in south
:10:29. > :10:30.Wales just a few weeks ago. It is why we are committed to bringing
:10:31. > :10:35.down the barriers to trade and commerce between South Wales and the
:10:36. > :10:40.wider UK, by scrapping the tolls on the Severn crossings for good.
:10:41. > :10:44.Helping 25 million drivers who use the crossings every year, and
:10:45. > :10:48.providing a ?100 million boost to the local economy. It is why we will
:10:49. > :10:52.introduce a new UK chaired prosperity fund, replacing
:10:53. > :10:58.ineffective and restrictive EU structural funds with a new targeted
:10:59. > :11:02.scheme, whose sole purpose would be to reduce the inequalities that
:11:03. > :11:07.exist within and between the four nations of our United Kingdom. And
:11:08. > :11:10.it is why as we leave the European Union, we will ensure that power
:11:11. > :11:16.sits close to the people of the UK than ever before. That is why as
:11:17. > :11:21.powers are repatriated to the UK, we expect to be able to increase the
:11:22. > :11:32.decision-making powers of the well Scotland. As long as no new barriers
:11:33. > :11:35.are created between a rowing union. We will ensure the industrial
:11:36. > :11:38.strategy will benefit people, towns and businesses across Wales. That
:11:39. > :11:42.will help to create the high skilled, highly paid jobs of the
:11:43. > :11:47.future. And give our young people every chance of getting on and
:11:48. > :11:51.leading a full and happy life. As Prime Minister of this United
:11:52. > :11:58.Kingdom, that is what I want everyone our country. That is
:11:59. > :12:03.because of a simple truth. Across the United Kingdom, we may be four
:12:04. > :12:07.nations. But at heart we are one people. And we achieve more
:12:08. > :12:21.together. APPLAUSE.
:12:22. > :12:28.We all have a stake in each other's success. We all have a stake in our
:12:29. > :12:34.shared future. That is why this election is so important. Because
:12:35. > :12:39.this election more than any other is about the long-term future of our
:12:40. > :12:44.country. Not just about the next five years. But the years beyond.
:12:45. > :12:49.Not just about our future but the future of our children and our
:12:50. > :12:53.children's children, too. We can get the best possible deal from Brexit.
:12:54. > :12:58.We can redouble our efforts to make things better here at home. And we
:12:59. > :13:04.can show that with hard work, with a clear vision and the right plan, a
:13:05. > :13:07.mainstream, active, determined government can deliver a better,
:13:08. > :13:11.more secure future for ordinary working people across this land. We
:13:12. > :13:21.need strong and stable leadership to do it. There are just 17 days to go.
:13:22. > :13:27.11 days after that, the Europeans want the Brexit talks to begin. And
:13:28. > :13:35.the UK's seat at the negotiating table will be filled by me or Jeremy
:13:36. > :13:38.Corbyn. The deal will -- we seek, negotiated by me, or Jeremy Corbyn.
:13:39. > :13:46.They will be no time to waste. And no time for a new government to find
:13:47. > :13:51.its way. So focus on that choice. Support my candidates here in Wales.
:13:52. > :13:55.Give me the strong hand I need to deliver Brexit. Give me that strong
:13:56. > :14:01.hand and I will deliver for Britain. Give me your support. And with
:14:02. > :14:09.confidence in ourselves, and with a unity of purpose in our country, we
:14:10. > :14:29.can and we will go forward together. APPLAUSE.
:14:30. > :14:37.Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Now I will
:14:38. > :14:47.take some questions from the media. Laura... Thank you, Prime Minister.
:14:48. > :14:50.Laura Kuenssberg, BBC News. You have today again, and repeatedly through
:14:51. > :14:57.this campaign, attacked Jeremy Corbyn forbidding on and unsure come
:14:58. > :15:00.to use your phrase. -- for being uncertain. But you have just
:15:01. > :15:03.announced a significant change to what was announced in your
:15:04. > :15:08.manifesto, to say there will now be the possibility of a cab on social
:15:09. > :15:11.care. That was not in the plans announced four days ago. That does
:15:12. > :15:16.not look strong and stable, does it? Looks rather like panic in the face
:15:17. > :15:18.of opposition. And can you tell us today where the cab on social care
:15:19. > :15:30.costs will be set? What we set out in our manifesto is
:15:31. > :15:33.a long-term plan for securing a sustainable future. Schalke in this
:15:34. > :15:40.country. So I said, if you look at the figures, the number of over
:15:41. > :15:43.75-year-old, two million more within the next decade, our social care
:15:44. > :15:48.system will collapse unless we address this problem, and we cannot
:15:49. > :15:53.leave it to the future, we have to start dealing with it now. That is
:15:54. > :15:56.why I want to fix it and I am going to fix it, and the plans that we set
:15:57. > :16:01.out with very clear in the manifesto, you can look in the
:16:02. > :16:05.manifesto, Laura, I think it was page 6465, we said we would issue a
:16:06. > :16:11.green paper, and within that we will be consulting on the details of the
:16:12. > :16:16.proposals and the principles that we have set out. What is important is
:16:17. > :16:19.that we have seen, over the last few days, Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour
:16:20. > :16:24.Party trying to scare vulnerable and elderly people by telling them, and
:16:25. > :16:30.trying to suggest, that they would lose their family homes to pay for
:16:31. > :16:34.their care. Nobody is going to have to pay for their care, nobody is
:16:35. > :16:40.going to have to, while they are alive, nobody is going to have to
:16:41. > :16:46.lose their family home. We will ensure that people are able to pass
:16:47. > :16:53.on savings to their children. That is the proposals that we have put
:16:54. > :16:57.forward. It is the right way to deal with this problem that we all face,
:16:58. > :17:06.and we need to deal with it now. APPLAUSE
:17:07. > :17:14.Robert, Sky? Thanks very much, Robert Nisbet from
:17:15. > :17:18.Sky News. You talk about a coalition of chaos, but isn't this a manifesto
:17:19. > :17:22.of chaos now? What else are you going to clarify within the next few
:17:23. > :17:26.days? And what message do you think this is sending out to those Prime
:17:27. > :17:30.Ministers and chancellors around Europe that you are prepared to be
:17:31. > :17:34.so flexible with what you originally set down in stone? I think the
:17:35. > :17:42.message that our manifesto sets out is that, as a party and as a leader,
:17:43. > :17:46.I and we the party are prepared to be honest with people about the
:17:47. > :17:50.challenges that we face, and are prepared to set forward the hard
:17:51. > :17:54.decisions that have to be taken, but a way forward that ensures we are
:17:55. > :17:57.looking after the interests of ordinary working people across this
:17:58. > :18:01.country. And I think what people will see across this country is that
:18:02. > :18:06.they do you have a choice. They have a choice between Jeremy Corbyn being
:18:07. > :18:09.propped up by votes for any other party in this country, or a
:18:10. > :18:12.government led by me which will provide that strong and stable
:18:13. > :18:16.leadership, which will ensure that we are being honest with each other
:18:17. > :18:22.about the challenges we face, and have a plan to fix those. That is
:18:23. > :18:24.the aborted thing. We will fix those challenges, we will address them,
:18:25. > :18:33.and we will also build a stronger Britain and a better future. Emily.
:18:34. > :18:37.Prime Minister, Emily Morgan, ITV Use. You say you are prepared to
:18:38. > :18:42.take the difficult decisions, but you have just buckled under pressure
:18:43. > :18:46.over your social care plans. Isn't this U-turn just a cynical attempt
:18:47. > :18:51.to stop voters leaving you in droves? Look, first of all, let's be
:18:52. > :18:54.clear - we have not changed the principles that we set out in the
:18:55. > :18:58.manifesto. We are very clear about the principles on which this system
:18:59. > :19:05.will operate and will be based. What we have done is clarified that, in
:19:06. > :19:09.the green paper, which will be a consultation document, we will have
:19:10. > :19:13.a upper limit, absolute limit on the amount that people will pay for
:19:14. > :19:17.care. But the basic principles remain absolutely the same as when
:19:18. > :19:21.they were put in the manifesto and announced last week, that nobody is
:19:22. > :19:24.going to have to pay for their care while they are alive, that nobody is
:19:25. > :19:30.going to have to have their family homes sold while they are living in
:19:31. > :19:35.it, and that everybody will be able, where they have that, to pass
:19:36. > :19:41.?100,000 onto their families. That is four times the limit that
:19:42. > :19:44.currently exists at the moment. This is a good arrangement, it ensures
:19:45. > :19:48.that people can pass savings to their families, it ensures they have
:19:49. > :19:51.the peace of mind, rather than sitting there month after month,
:19:52. > :19:54.worrying about the money going out of their bank account to pay for
:19:55. > :19:59.their care, worrying about what is going to happen in the future, this
:20:00. > :20:03.takes that worry away from people. But it also ensures that we have a
:20:04. > :20:06.sustainable system for funding social care for the future. That is
:20:07. > :20:16.the challenge we need to address, we are the only party that is doing it.
:20:17. > :20:21.Michael. Michael Crick, Channel 4 News. I don't recall a U-turn on a
:20:22. > :20:26.manifesto in any election campaign. Now we've had national insurance and
:20:27. > :20:34.this. As Margaret Thatcher might have said, you turn if you want for
:20:35. > :20:38.turning, the lady is for turning - doesn't this show that you are
:20:39. > :20:44.really weak and waffly, not strong and stable? Can you give an idea of
:20:45. > :20:47.what the cap will be, 100,000, 200,000, half a million? Don't the
:20:48. > :20:54.people of this country have a right to know what the cap will be? We
:20:55. > :21:02.have not changed the principles of the policy that we set out in our
:21:03. > :21:06.manifesto. Those policies... Those policies remain exactly the same.
:21:07. > :21:10.There will be aspects of how this operates that we will consult on
:21:11. > :21:13.through the green paper. We were honest that we were going to have a
:21:14. > :21:16.green paper and we would be consulting people on how the system
:21:17. > :21:23.operates. What we have done, which other parties have singularly failed
:21:24. > :21:27.to do, is to recognise the challenge that we face, to respect the needs
:21:28. > :21:32.and concerns of the British people, and to provide a long-term plan for
:21:33. > :21:37.sustainable social care, which means that elderly people in this country
:21:38. > :21:42.won't have to worry about how their social care will be paid for in the
:21:43. > :21:49.future. Now, do we have the daily post here before I go to the...?
:21:50. > :21:53.Yes. Shane Brennan, Daily Post. What guarantees can you give the Welsh
:21:54. > :21:57.farmers and manufacturers that they will have access to tariff free
:21:58. > :22:00.markets after Brexit? Well, we want to insure that we'd negotiate a
:22:01. > :22:07.comprehensive free trade agreement with the European Union. We want
:22:08. > :22:10.that, I mean, obviously, we will be working to have as tariff free and
:22:11. > :22:13.frictionless a trade arrangement with the rest of the remaining
:22:14. > :22:19.member states of the European Union after we leave the EU. What we will
:22:20. > :22:23.also provide for Welsh farmers, and for farmers across the United
:22:24. > :22:28.Kingdom, is we will be able, across the United Kingdom, to decide the
:22:29. > :22:31.support system for farming that actually works for Welsh farmers,
:22:32. > :22:35.for farmers across the rest of the United Kingdom. It will be a system
:22:36. > :22:39.that simply else has devised for a wider group, it will be for us to be
:22:40. > :22:42.able to have that system of support for farmers and to ensure that the
:22:43. > :22:53.support being provided is as effective as possible. Chris. Chris
:22:54. > :22:57.Hope, the Telegraph. Two quick questions, yes or no, will anything
:22:58. > :23:02.else in the manifesto change between now and Juliet? Second question,
:23:03. > :23:05.quickly, why, as Home Secretary, did you grant asylum to the Libyan man
:23:06. > :23:10.arrested by police for the murder of Yvonne Fletcher? Well, on the latter
:23:11. > :23:17.point, there are rules about how asylum is granted, and any decisions
:23:18. > :23:22.that are taken are taken legally and in accordance with the law of this
:23:23. > :23:29.country. And on the first question, nothing has changed! Nothing has
:23:30. > :23:35.changed. We are offering a long-term solution for the sustainability of
:23:36. > :23:37.social care for the future. We are ensuring that people, elderly
:23:38. > :23:42.people, will not have to worry, they will be able to ensure that their
:23:43. > :23:46.care, whether it is in the home or for them to go into a home, is being
:23:47. > :23:51.paid for and they won't have to worry about those bills month after
:23:52. > :23:55.month after month. And they will have the confidence of knowing that
:23:56. > :24:01.they can pass ?100,000 of savings on to their children. Nothing has
:24:02. > :24:10.changed. We will consult on how the system operates, and we will do that
:24:11. > :24:17.through a green paper. Er... Anybody else? Sorry, I can't see, I think
:24:18. > :24:21.that was the last hand. Jessica Alcock, the Guardian. In case I am
:24:22. > :24:27.missing something, this dementia tax would apply to someone who dies a
:24:28. > :24:31.longer death from dementia, but if you dialogue and death from cancer,
:24:32. > :24:35.you would have the inheritance tax threshold as ?1 million, whereas it
:24:36. > :24:42.reduces to 100,000 in this case, that is still the case, isn't it? Go
:24:43. > :24:45.you are using terms that have been used by the Labour Party to try and
:24:46. > :24:49.scare people in this country. This is a system that will ensure people
:24:50. > :24:54.who are faced with the prospect of either requiring care in their own
:24:55. > :24:58.home more or needing to go into a home for care, are able to see that
:24:59. > :25:02.support provided for them and don't have to worry that month by month
:25:03. > :25:08.basis about where the funding is coming. They won't have to sell
:25:09. > :25:12.their family home while they are alive, they won't have to be
:25:13. > :25:15.worrying, as I say, about those sums of money going out of the bag
:25:16. > :25:21.account each month, and they will be up to pass savings on to their
:25:22. > :25:24.children. This is... This is a policy which ensures sustainability
:25:25. > :25:29.for our social care system going into the future, and we need that,
:25:30. > :25:34.because our system will collapse, with our ageing society, unless we
:25:35. > :25:38.do take the decisions we need. As I said, when I was speaking, the only
:25:39. > :25:43.suggestion that Jeremy Corbyn made about paying for social care was to
:25:44. > :25:47.put up the taxes, the basic rate of tax from ?20 up to 25p so younger
:25:48. > :25:48.generations would have been paying for that. Thank you.
:25:49. > :26:26.APPLAUSE I wanted to talk about protecting
:26:27. > :26:30.older people. The Conservative plan to confiscate
:26:31. > :26:35.assets pound for pound from elderly people to pay for their social care
:26:36. > :26:42.is the worst and stupid public policy proposal of recent years, and
:26:43. > :26:46.the nastiest too, in effect, if not in intention. It cannot be allowed
:26:47. > :26:52.to be implemented in its current form. The Prime Minister is
:26:53. > :26:59.effectively proposing a 100% inheritance tax on assets over
:27:00. > :27:03.?100,000 for those unlucky enough to develop a debilitating, long-term
:27:04. > :27:09.condition that requires domiciliary care, such as dementia or acute
:27:10. > :27:12.arthritis, for instance. Every ?1 spent on care for these and
:27:13. > :27:17.fortunate people will be claimed back from either, at the time they
:27:18. > :27:23.receive it, or from their estate when they die. Now, most policies
:27:24. > :27:28.that intrude on personal finances concern tens of pounds, such as
:27:29. > :27:32.insurance tax rises, for instance, or hundreds of pounds at most, such
:27:33. > :27:38.as Ukip's excellent proposals to cut the cost of living, saving
:27:39. > :27:43.households ?400 a year by taking taxes off domestic energy and other
:27:44. > :27:47.measures. But this Tory death tax is in an altogether different league.
:27:48. > :27:52.It could involve taking tens of thousands or even hundreds of
:27:53. > :27:57.thousands of pounds out of someone's estate, if they have been an lucky
:27:58. > :28:02.enough to suffer an extended, debilitating condition later life.
:28:03. > :28:06.Damian Green seems to feel he is qualified to tell people how much is
:28:07. > :28:10.reasonable for them to pass on to their children, but the financial
:28:11. > :28:17.exposure the Tories are leaving millions of elderly people is not
:28:18. > :28:22.reasonable at all. In fact, this is a Russian roulette approach to
:28:23. > :28:25.paying for social care, and the abrogation of government
:28:26. > :28:32.responsibility. It makes a mockery of the claims of Mrs May and Nick
:28:33. > :28:36.Ahad advisors to be running a communitarian Conservative
:28:37. > :28:39.administration. Just consider typical house prices in parts of the
:28:40. > :28:43.country, particularly but not exclusively in southern England. In
:28:44. > :28:52.Dagenham, for example, average house prices are too good ?95,000. In
:28:53. > :28:59.Thurrock, ?338,000. In Ramsgate, 210,000. In Epping, more than
:29:00. > :29:01.?500,000. Homeowners requiring domiciliary social care are
:29:02. > :29:06.typically people who have paid off their mortgages and therefore owed
:29:07. > :29:12.all or nearly all of the value of the house, so in these ordinary
:29:13. > :29:18.Ingolstadt was that I have listed, anything from 110,000-400,000 will
:29:19. > :29:22.be exposed to the Tory death tax. The Prime Minister seems to wish to
:29:23. > :29:25.avoid scrutiny on heavyweight political programmes in this
:29:26. > :29:30.election. She went on the One Show recently. If she sticks to this
:29:31. > :29:35.policy, her next appearance should be on Total Wipe-out, because that
:29:36. > :29:40.is what she is planning to do to the estates of many elderly people. The
:29:41. > :29:43.Conservatives have created a cult of the leader under Mrs May, but if
:29:44. > :29:48.they persist with this policy in its current form, they will soon find
:29:49. > :29:53.out that this is not North Korea. The British public free thinkers who
:29:54. > :29:56.do not take kindly to being treated like fools. Older voters in
:29:57. > :30:07.particular are not going to brainwashed into voting for Kim
:30:08. > :30:11.Yong-may and against their own interest in such a scale. It is
:30:12. > :30:13.often said that when there is weak opposition, the danger of bad
:30:14. > :30:17.government escalates, and that is what we are seeing with the Tory
:30:18. > :30:21.death tax. Mrs May's Tories think they can do what they like. This
:30:22. > :30:27.policy is not just a dementia tax, it is effectively a tax on all forms
:30:28. > :30:28.of debilitating disease and infirmity that need an elderly
:30:29. > :30:38.person to need social care. Every extra week they live will lead
:30:39. > :30:43.to a further loss of equity and what they can hang onto their children.
:30:44. > :30:49.This will undoubtedly lead to an extra psychological toll on people
:30:50. > :30:53.already with disease. At the extreme end of the spectrum it's likely to
:30:54. > :31:00.make some elderly people feel regretful to still be alive. The
:31:01. > :31:12.Tory policy will also pour some specific knowledge -- anomalies and
:31:13. > :31:17.consequences... What happens, for instance, if a grown-up child is
:31:18. > :31:22.sharing the house but working full-time? Does the house gets sold
:31:23. > :31:27.immediately on the death of the elderly person? If so, that would
:31:28. > :31:35.render someone homeless just as they have lost a parent, or if not, it
:31:36. > :31:38.will lead to anomalies and sculpture of the avoidance. If this scheme is
:31:39. > :31:42.implemented in its present form, it will create a whole new tax
:31:43. > :31:47.avoidance industry, with elderly people piling intellect to release
:31:48. > :31:51.schemes and being given incentives to go on spending sprees to get the
:31:52. > :31:57.remaining value of their assets down under ?100,000. The message from
:31:58. > :32:00.government would be, don't be successful, and don't be financially
:32:01. > :32:05.responsible either. Another even more serious perverse outcome could
:32:06. > :32:10.be that people who need social care refused to accept it and try and
:32:11. > :32:17.model through in order to preserve their estate. With the inevitable
:32:18. > :32:20.result they suffer far more falls and other accidents around the home,
:32:21. > :32:25.which then necessitate long and expensive hospital stays or even
:32:26. > :32:32.bring about their premature death. This is a devastating death tax
:32:33. > :32:35.dreamt up on the back of an envelope and apparently winging its way to
:32:36. > :32:40.the Tory manifesto without consultation with expert opinion,
:32:41. > :32:46.the Cabinet or even the ministers in charge of the policy area in
:32:47. > :32:50.government. It doesn't have to be this way, word governments to make
:32:51. > :32:54.better and different choices on public spending. What is needed
:32:55. > :32:58.first is an immediate and substantial injection of money into
:32:59. > :33:05.the social care system. Because Ukip is prepared to cut unjustified
:33:06. > :33:11.public spending on the Barnett formula, HS2 and overseas aid, we
:33:12. > :33:14.are able to offer just such a financial boost, and will do so when
:33:15. > :33:21.we set out our manifesto on Wednesday. But longer term, we also
:33:22. > :33:26.need an agreed way forward for social care to ensure that risk is
:33:27. > :33:30.fairly pooled and builds our fairly paid. Possible solutions range from
:33:31. > :33:36.a national care service, as set out by Andy Burnham some years ago, to
:33:37. > :33:41.insurance policies and products that people can be encouraged to invest
:33:42. > :33:44.in. The Andy Burnham route may have something to commend it if the
:33:45. > :33:49.public could be assured the resources of a national care service
:33:50. > :33:53.funded out of tax revenue could be protected against freeloading, for
:33:54. > :33:58.instance by new arrivals from other countries. I'm afraid that hurdle
:33:59. > :34:01.would not be cleared if Labour were in government, because Labour has a
:34:02. > :34:07.reputation for being generous to a fault with other people's money.
:34:08. > :34:11.Were I in the shoes of the Tories today, the first thing I would do
:34:12. > :34:16.would be to recognise that Denis Healey's law of holes is now in
:34:17. > :34:23.play. For the uninitiated, I should explain this law is very concise and
:34:24. > :34:27.simply state in regard to a hole, when you are in one, stop digging.
:34:28. > :34:34.Declaring financial war and millions of retired people who spent working
:34:35. > :34:37.life being responsible and building up assets does not amount to
:34:38. > :34:43.compassionate conservatism. It amounts betrayal. So I offer this
:34:44. > :34:49.advice to team Teresa Lu. Why don't you at least offer people a
:34:50. > :34:54.meaningful choice? That is after all what conservatism used to be about.
:34:55. > :35:00.So why not give people an option of chipping in to a voluntary social
:35:01. > :35:05.care costs insurance system run by government from say the age of 50?
:35:06. > :35:10.If people pay in and then need care, they are covered and should not be
:35:11. > :35:14.charged a penny. If, however, they have chosen not to pay in, then at
:35:15. > :35:19.least you would have the semblance of an argument for reclaim the costs
:35:20. > :35:22.from estates after death. If you did this, you could even claim to be
:35:23. > :35:28.adding to your manifesto proposal rather than abounding in it
:35:29. > :35:35.altogether. -- abandoning it. Therefore sparing the blushes of
:35:36. > :35:39.Tarquin without proper stress testing or scrutiny. One could tell
:35:40. > :35:43.from the demeanour of Tory ministers sent out to bat for this policy on
:35:44. > :35:48.the political programmes yesterday, that they knew they were on a loser.
:35:49. > :35:53.So far the conservative newspapers have not really got stuck into the
:35:54. > :35:58.policy with full figure. The ones that care about their readers will
:35:59. > :36:05.do so this week. Because it is an unforgivable attack on the --
:36:06. > :36:09.responsible and hard-working people. My message to all those who may be
:36:10. > :36:14.hit by the Tory policy but would never eat vote for Jeremy Corbyn's
:36:15. > :36:20.Labour, is simple. Ask yourself what has been the best way to influence
:36:21. > :36:26.the Conservative Party's behaviour and policies in the recent past? And
:36:27. > :36:31.the answer is obvious. By voting Ukip, or at least threatening to
:36:32. > :36:36.vote Ukip, look how it worked on Brexit, look how it is working on
:36:37. > :36:40.grammar schools. So if I were in your shoes, I would tell Tory
:36:41. > :36:46.campaigners on the doorstep that you are going to vote Ukip for a
:36:47. > :36:50.common-sense and fairer approach. And if you do that, there is a
:36:51. > :36:53.strong possibility this policy will be ditched altogether, or at least
:36:54. > :36:59.greatly modified by the end of the week. I want to turn briefly to the
:37:00. > :37:04.second leg of the Tory attack on the elderly, on the issue of winter fuel
:37:05. > :37:08.allowance. The Conservatives tell us they will means tested but will not
:37:09. > :37:12.say at what income level people will lose it. Pensioners can be forgiven
:37:13. > :37:16.for suspecting that vast majority of them would no longer be eligible.
:37:17. > :37:22.The Tories have claimed to be making a principled case against
:37:23. > :37:27.Universalism in this area. And for replacing it with an assessment of
:37:28. > :37:33.need. So how come the very next day after unveiling the plan, the Prime
:37:34. > :37:37.Minister was helping Ruth Davidson to launch a Scottish Tory manifesto
:37:38. > :37:42.that placed to keep the allowance for all pensioners north of the
:37:43. > :37:45.border. --? This is yet another example of the English and indeed
:37:46. > :37:50.the wells being treated as second-class citizens within the UK.
:37:51. > :37:56.There is simply no good reason why a millionaire pensioner in Edinburgh
:37:57. > :38:00.should receive an allowance of up to ?300 million -- three to pay full
:38:01. > :38:06.interview will, while pensioners on modest incomes in Essex get nothing.
:38:07. > :38:10.It is the Barnett formula which leads to public spending in Scotland
:38:11. > :38:16.being ?1700 per head higher than it is in England. That is what is
:38:17. > :38:19.behind this. It is another vindication of the Ukip policy of
:38:20. > :38:26.dumping that formula and replacing it with a needs -based funding
:38:27. > :38:32.system instead. So Mrs May's social care plan is not conservative and
:38:33. > :38:36.her winter fuel allowance is not a humanist. Apart from that, I'm sure
:38:37. > :38:38.everything is going fine on the Conservative and Unionist campaign.
:38:39. > :38:48.Thank you. Any questions. Does it matter if you
:38:49. > :38:54.win your seat or your party wins anything at all? I think you may be
:38:55. > :38:57.referring to the point Paul Nuttall made on the television yesterday,
:38:58. > :39:02.which was simply that Ukip has shown it is able to influence the course
:39:03. > :39:08.of politics in Britain without MPs. And indeed one could say that under
:39:09. > :39:13.the current first past the post system, it is proved to date easier
:39:14. > :39:17.for Ukip to get the United Kingdom out of the European Union than it
:39:18. > :39:21.has together MPs elected to the House of Commons. But we hope to
:39:22. > :39:26.change that in this election. We are not expecting an across the board
:39:27. > :39:31.level of voting to match that of 2015, but we do believe we are very
:39:32. > :39:36.much more successfully targeting the areas where we are very strong
:39:37. > :39:42.without actually specifying the ranking of are target seats.
:39:43. > :39:46.Do you think comments like that are helpful in terms of getting the vote
:39:47. > :39:51.out? That it doesn't matter necessarily if you have no MPs? I
:39:52. > :39:54.wouldn't say it doesn't matter. It is this the better for Ukip to be
:39:55. > :39:58.represented in the House of Commons as well as to command the support of
:39:59. > :40:01.hundreds of thousands of millions of people as well. We're just making
:40:02. > :40:05.the point that one of the key ways that we have worked in recent years
:40:06. > :40:09.has been frankly to scare the Conservative Party in particular
:40:10. > :40:16.when they step out of line too badly. And that is why I am inviting
:40:17. > :40:20.older people who get knocked up this week by Conservative campaigners, if
:40:21. > :40:24.enough of you say, we are thinking of voting Ukip over this policy, I
:40:25. > :40:31.don't see it lasting beyond next weekend.
:40:32. > :40:38.Harry, you seem amused. Do you have any reaction to the news
:40:39. > :40:44.that the Commonwealth are sending election monitors from Australia and
:40:45. > :40:52.Mauritius to oversee the election? Is that something you welcome? I
:40:53. > :40:57.think our electoral system has a lot of problems around postal voting on
:40:58. > :41:02.demand in some areas. In some inner-city areas I think there have
:41:03. > :41:05.been problems in the past with intimidation of voters. And I think
:41:06. > :41:08.the Electoral Commission have recognised that certain features of
:41:09. > :41:12.the way elections are run, particularly in inner-city areas,
:41:13. > :41:17.are pretty disgraceful. I think there is no room for complacency at
:41:18. > :41:22.all. And if we have visitors from other countries to have a look and
:41:23. > :41:27.monitor, I think that is quite welcome. It doesn't necessarily mean
:41:28. > :41:32.that their own democratic systems are above criticism. I think it is
:41:33. > :41:46.perfectly welcome. Let's have as many eyes on how things are done as
:41:47. > :41:51.possible. Yeah. Go on. If former leader of the Lib Dems was
:41:52. > :42:01.on the radio this morning, waffling on for about half an hour and taking
:42:02. > :42:18.up so much space that he was even cutting his own throat in hand...
:42:19. > :42:23.It was waffle. It is typical of the BBC. They keep pushing the Lib Dems
:42:24. > :42:27.all the time. As you know, I have had some
:42:28. > :42:31.criticisms of the BBC over recent years. We have got a policy of
:42:32. > :42:36.scrapping the licence fee. But I think during an election, they are
:42:37. > :42:39.quite entitled to put on politicians of lots of different parties. And I
:42:40. > :42:46.don't particularly see that increased exposure of Nick Clegg to
:42:47. > :42:51.the masses is going to harm the prospects of Ukip or indeed any
:42:52. > :42:55.other party at all. I think it is a great democratic festival, a general
:42:56. > :42:59.election, so the more Nick Clegg, the better.
:43:00. > :43:27.Anyone else? Thank you very much then. Thanks.
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