:00:22. > :00:27.David Davis said some embarrassing conversations need to be heard with
:00:28. > :00:30.the Muslim community. What do you make of that? I think we need to be
:00:31. > :00:36.very careful about the language you use here. What the Conservatives
:00:37. > :00:40.want is for us to be divided as communities. They want us to turn on
:00:41. > :00:46.other, and as politicians we've got to be very very careful but we talk
:00:47. > :00:51.about this in a way that does not help people to turn up on their
:00:52. > :00:55.neighbour. But hasn't that been the mantra of politicians for a long
:00:56. > :01:00.time, and it doesn't seem to have worked? I disagree, I think the
:01:01. > :01:05.problem has been that we have kept services and organisations that are
:01:06. > :01:09.in a strong position to actually have those conversations,
:01:10. > :01:14.embarrassing or otherwise. If you look at the Coetzer youth workers,
:01:15. > :01:19.Social Services, prison officers, community officers, all of those
:01:20. > :01:23.people are in a strong position to be having those conversations, we
:01:24. > :01:28.need to reinvest and train people so that they can challenge some of
:01:29. > :01:33.those ideological assumptions that drive people to commit these
:01:34. > :01:37.atrocious acts. Is this now an ideological war, or is this now
:01:38. > :01:42.actually quite a hot war that is going on with certain people in our
:01:43. > :01:47.society? It's always been an ideological world, it's a question
:01:48. > :01:50.of ideas, and those ideas have to be challenged, and what we don't have
:01:51. > :01:55.at the moment is people in a strong position, well-trained to challenge
:01:56. > :02:01.those ideas. So more resources for the security services? Yes, and we
:02:02. > :02:05.need to reverse the cuts to the police, to youth work, to Social
:02:06. > :02:08.Services, and also make sure that teachers are trained, and everyone
:02:09. > :02:13.who comes into contact with people who are vulnerable to these sorts of
:02:14. > :02:17.ideas need to be trained to be able to challenge them. We're in the last
:02:18. > :02:28.few days of campaigning. Has this shift to sack -- security, other
:02:29. > :02:34.other issues you'd rather be talking about? Well, it has dominated after
:02:35. > :02:37.the Manchester and London attacks, those fears understandably are more
:02:38. > :02:40.at the forefront of the political agenda, but it's vital when people
:02:41. > :02:45.vote on Thursday that they consider all the aspects on which they vote.
:02:46. > :02:49.Theresa May was very keen for the selection to be only about Brexit,
:02:50. > :02:53.getting other issues on the agenda, getting other issues on the agenda,
:02:54. > :02:58.like the pensioner poverty and so on. We must make sure that all
:02:59. > :03:03.issues are considered when people go into the ballot box on Thursday. But
:03:04. > :03:07.those are areas in which you have little or no influence. This is
:03:08. > :03:11.about who is good to be Prime Minister. The question for us in
:03:12. > :03:18.Wales is what happens to Wales as we leave the EU. At the moment we have
:03:19. > :03:22.been largely ignored. Since June, Gibraltar has had more attention
:03:23. > :03:27.than Wales. Unless we get a strong team of Plaid Cymru MPs elected,
:03:28. > :03:32.that can -- situation will continue. That is why it is essential that
:03:33. > :03:39.people vote about -- Plaid Cymru to get that strong team after June
:03:40. > :03:44.eight. The polls are indicating a four party squeeze in Wales. The
:03:45. > :03:48.polls have said a lot over the last few weeks. The real poll, the local
:03:49. > :03:52.election result at the beginning of May show that Plaid Cymru was in a
:03:53. > :03:56.very strong position in a number of seats, and in their seats where we
:03:57. > :03:59.polled well and the local elections, we are looking to Paul well on June
:04:00. > :04:02.eight. I would encourage everybody to go out and vote Plaid Cymru on
:04:03. > :04:16.Thursday. We've been trading for over three
:04:17. > :04:27.years now and things are all right. We do to get a new premises. We
:04:28. > :04:48.hoping to get headdresses here which would be good. -- a hairdressers.
:04:49. > :04:57.We've got one of the chefs from the Great Edition Menu. -- great British
:04:58. > :07:59.menu. One of the least interesting aspect
:08:00. > :08:05.of the career of Geoffrey Cawser is that he sat as a -- an MP. Son of a
:08:06. > :08:09.London Wine merchant, his literary career ran in parallel with that of
:08:10. > :08:13.a busy royal servant. This early literary works emerged from his
:08:14. > :08:20.experiences as a royal courtier. He was active in the Royal Court from
:08:21. > :08:21.the mid-1360s. He was elected