Tim Farron

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:00:25. > :00:31.Good morning. Up early and active. Just doing a few activities here.

:00:32. > :00:38.All part of what these lovely people do. We have right there. We have

:00:39. > :00:47.Joseph. Joseph, nice to see you. What are we doing? Is that a

:00:48. > :00:54.lighthouse? Yes. Brilliant. Fantastic work. The right colour.

:00:55. > :01:02.Thank you. And that is... Roy, what is that? Is it a bird box? That's

:01:03. > :01:07.right. It's fantastic. It's quite something. Have you just started

:01:08. > :01:15.that this morning, right? You've done a lot of work. Do you want to

:01:16. > :01:21.sit down. Shall I get some points out in case you want to paint? I

:01:22. > :01:30.don't think I can match your prowess. It is not my talent. Roy,

:01:31. > :01:35.are we going to use that as a bird box outside? Do you think so? It

:01:36. > :01:42.would be quite a small bird. Tremendous. I see you've made great

:01:43. > :01:51.progress, how long have you been out on the table? Since breakfast? I

:01:52. > :01:56.think the last hour or so. Roy has been here for many years. About 15

:01:57. > :02:09.years. He has a brother in America that he skates on a regular basis.

:02:10. > :02:12.-- Skypes. We are one of the few homes in Great Britain that is

:02:13. > :02:20.graded our standard by the Kircaldy commission. Where very proud of

:02:21. > :02:28.that. -- Care Quality Commission. This is an example. What sort of

:02:29. > :02:33.things have you done? A lot of it was very low cost. People think you

:02:34. > :02:37.got to put a lot of money into these things. Actually, it was extended

:02:38. > :02:44.into the community so it wasn't just about painting and putting iPads in

:02:45. > :02:49.the place but it was about spreading best practice. We brought other

:02:50. > :02:55.homes in and said this is how we do stuff. We learn from each other. The

:02:56. > :03:00.Care Quality Commission really appreciated that. As well as IT

:03:01. > :03:05.innovation, we have a pet cameras on the wall. We have a lot of pets

:03:06. > :03:11.outside. We bring all the pets interfere through digitally on the

:03:12. > :03:21.wall, or indeed physically. We have rabbits and all sorts. That's great.

:03:22. > :03:27.So, the demographic of the residents you have here. When you came in a

:03:28. > :03:37.year or so ago, you said Roy had been here a long time. Many others

:03:38. > :03:46.are... Four sons inherited it some years ago when dad died. One by one,

:03:47. > :03:51.we bought the brothers out. It is now me and my wife. It's been in the

:03:52. > :03:55.family for a good 20 years. It was dad who extended it. He was very

:03:56. > :04:04.much part of the furniture here. He loved the place. Great. These lovely

:04:05. > :04:08.people. You have learning disabilities ranging from bipolar

:04:09. > :04:13.two down syndrome. As a centre of research, we are looking at how we

:04:14. > :04:16.can indicate better. And also in terms of how we research in terms of

:04:17. > :04:25.dementia. Joseph's a big Tony Blair fan,

:04:26. > :04:43.aren't you? Who do we follow? Everton. Are you Everton too? You're

:04:44. > :04:49.surrounded, Tim. Surrounded. Are you Everton too? Everton too. Goodness

:04:50. > :05:01.me. We do have some... Shall we say the word? Are Reds allowed in here?

:05:02. > :05:06.Band. Completely banned. Ever heard of Blackburn Rovers? I'm labelled

:05:07. > :05:14.with them. We were good once. You probably remember! LAUGHTER We were

:05:15. > :05:22.once. I drove past it this morning. Best ground in the Third Division!

:05:23. > :05:30.That's great work. That is lovely. They should all be pink. I think all

:05:31. > :05:34.hedgehogs should be pink. Hi, Susan. That is great. A good point for

:05:35. > :05:43.safety sake, they should all be pink. That is marvellous. We've Paul

:05:44. > :05:51.there with his blue lighthouse. Great. Is that another Evertonian or

:05:52. > :05:57.just happens to be blue? You were blue? Is that right? Some

:05:58. > :06:07.brainwashing. There is a pattern going on. Is this part of the deal?

:06:08. > :06:16.Hello. This is not a good idea. Probably not. Children and pets, was

:06:17. > :06:25.it? I'll bring the chicken in. Best not.

:06:26. > :06:35.Cover his ears up! This is all about pet therapy.

:06:36. > :06:53.Do you want to hold him, Susan? Here we go. What's your favourite pet,

:06:54. > :07:01.Roy? The chickens? Rabbits? Or fish? Both, that's a good enough answer.

:07:02. > :07:07.It's just called rabbit! You've not got a name for him, have you? That

:07:08. > :07:21.will do. I can't make it up. What it called? That's all right. It's

:07:22. > :07:26.called rabbit! Easy to remember! Yeah, relatively straightforward.

:07:27. > :07:33.Been a busy morning for you? Yeah, yeah. Been to Blackburn to do the

:07:34. > :07:39.Today programme from the radio Lancashire studios. Started off in

:07:40. > :07:43.the Lake District at 6.00am this morning. Edinburgh last night. Got

:07:44. > :07:51.home to my own bed last night which was a bit of a bonus. Great. A bit

:07:52. > :07:55.of a mad time. All fun as well. For you, you're doing these activities

:07:56. > :08:01.early on in the day. So, what time do you begin normally? They get up,

:08:02. > :08:06.it's their home. They get up when they want. When they feel like it.

:08:07. > :08:11.Breakfast is served between 8.00am and 10.00am. 10.00 is mid-morning

:08:12. > :08:15.break with activities laid on. We've entertainers that come in normally

:08:16. > :08:21.after lunch. And further activities in the afternoon. Many of the lovely

:08:22. > :08:25.residents will go out to either work in charity shops or they go and

:08:26. > :08:29.volunteer or they will go to other centres where they might do some day

:08:30. > :08:34.care activity. They then all come back. We also do a number of

:08:35. > :08:40.different tours. We normally have a minibus outside. In for an MOT at

:08:41. > :08:47.the moment. What do we do? The mystery tour? Mystery tour. Me and

:08:48. > :08:52.my family take them out. Snow staff, us and the children. We take them

:08:53. > :08:56.out in our big fun bus to a different restaurant. And we have a

:08:57. > :09:03.great time. That's a monthly activity along with many other

:09:04. > :09:09.activities. What's that, Roy? Lots the parties. Sound awesome. This

:09:10. > :09:14.month, we've the care home open day on Friday 16th June which is a

:09:15. > :09:19.national event. We, like everyone else, our doors are always open. But

:09:20. > :09:25.on that day, we're going to welcome even more people in to celebrate.

:09:26. > :09:30.It's really good. They all do that on the same day? Brings a lot of the

:09:31. > :09:39.public and relatives in. It can be a lot of fun, actually. There's so

:09:40. > :09:45.many stereotypes about the words "Care home." When you break that

:09:46. > :09:48.stereotype down from the places where people with dim enya are being

:09:49. > :09:53.looked after or residential or nursing, they are the most fantastic

:09:54. > :09:58.places doing amazing jobsment here in Southport, it is one of the big

:09:59. > :10:04.economies. Do you do music? It is a great therapy. It is. We've karaoke.

:10:05. > :10:12.Which is most mornings here. Start early! What's your five rid song?

:10:13. > :10:20.All of them. All of them. Fair enough. We've got a very busy month.

:10:21. > :10:25.We've learning disabilities week, the week after. More activities

:10:26. > :10:30.here. Again, just to invite people in so they can see what living with

:10:31. > :10:35.learning disabilities is about. It's not what people think at all. They

:10:36. > :10:40.realise the joy of all of these lovely people. That's what's so

:10:41. > :10:48.special. Isn't that right, Joseph? Yes. When you're not painting

:10:49. > :10:54.lighthouses, mystery tours and, what's that, backstage pass? It was

:10:55. > :11:03.from the Coronation Street tour. When did you go to there? Did you

:11:04. > :11:12.see anybody famous? Yeah. Who was that? My mate. Brilliant. He knows

:11:13. > :11:25.all the cast! Personally. You be walked on the cobbles? Yes. Did you

:11:26. > :11:36.go to the pub? Yes. We like a beer, don't we, Joseph? Newton Ridley, the

:11:37. > :11:40.real brewery. Yes. A pint of Best. Excellent. Jonathan's doing a lot of

:11:41. > :11:48.work with other organisations in Southport. That's really been quite

:11:49. > :11:54.key. Working with an outreach programme. What kind of things? We

:11:55. > :11:58.try to help other homes. We've got a separate business to this, a company

:11:59. > :12:03.called Storm. We'll go into homes and assist them. We know we are a

:12:04. > :12:07.provider of social care. We're not coming from it from a pure

:12:08. > :12:12.consultancy point of view. We're actually doing it and we're being

:12:13. > :12:16.regulated and are under the same pressures and scrutiny as everyone

:12:17. > :12:24.else. You come from a position of equality. Do you help them with CQC

:12:25. > :12:28.assessments? Yeah. They don't realise the game has changed. The

:12:29. > :12:31.met-Ricks have changed. Now there is no excuse whatsoever where the Care

:12:32. > :12:34.Quality Commission. You either deliver good care or you don't. If

:12:35. > :12:40.you don't, you will be held accountable. That's entirely right.

:12:41. > :12:43.It must be safe, a fabulous environment for anyone's parents or

:12:44. > :12:50.a loved one to go to. We'll go in there. It's normally

:12:51. > :12:54.inconsistencies. They don't realise in terms of due diligence when it

:12:55. > :12:58.comes to safety, medication or activities. We assist them to

:12:59. > :13:02.implement those systems and work with them. It is incredibly

:13:03. > :13:07.rewarding. You're making life better for people. Recently, we stopped a

:13:08. > :13:12.big provider here which was held in special measures. As of a few days

:13:13. > :13:17.ago, it was taken out of special measures. It's saved jobs, people

:13:18. > :13:23.being relow Kated and a -- relocated. And improved the life

:13:24. > :13:28.experience of the people there. What it's all about. It is a benchmark.

:13:29. > :13:32.There were enormous variety of accommodation. Some very, very good

:13:33. > :13:40.and some very, very poor. Those are being driven out by the CQC process?

:13:41. > :13:44.They are indeed. If you're bottom of the pile, or inadequate. Unless you

:13:45. > :13:49.can turn your fortunes round very quickly, your days are numbered.

:13:50. > :13:53.That's rightly so. If you can't deliver high quality care to these

:13:54. > :14:00.lovely people, then this isn't the game for you. Go and do something

:14:01. > :14:05.else. It's now for those who can aspire. Don't aim for Care Quality

:14:06. > :14:11.Commission minimum compliance. Aim for the stars. A real vocation. At

:14:12. > :14:15.one stage it was something, go to Southport. Buy a big house, get some

:14:16. > :14:20.residents in and it would work out well. Now, that commercial man over

:14:21. > :14:25.has been displaced by people coming in who really have a mission to do

:14:26. > :14:29.things in around around care. You can see it is top down. You can see

:14:30. > :14:34.the passion and love when you walk into a home. If it's not tired and

:14:35. > :14:38.the paint's falling off walls and you've threat bare carpets, you're

:14:39. > :14:42.starting to think, do they care? Is it a home. You can see it. As soon

:14:43. > :14:46.as you walk into a home you can feel the love and see how people are

:14:47. > :14:55.being looked after. That's what's so rewarding. Isn't that right, mate?

:14:56. > :14:59.Yes. Why did you decide to come here this morning? It is great to see the

:15:00. > :15:02.work care homes like this do. Particularly for a part of society

:15:03. > :15:07.that perhaps isn't always catered for in a bespoke way. Those who are

:15:08. > :15:11.older people, who have learning difficulties, it is a reminder of

:15:12. > :15:14.how important social care is as an issue in this election. The quality

:15:15. > :15:19.of care provided here is outstanding. It isn't everywhere.

:15:20. > :15:24.Let's remember, the majority of people who are working in our care

:15:25. > :15:30.sector are being paid not much more than the minimum wage. They do it

:15:31. > :15:35.essentially out of compassion and great love and dedication but it is

:15:36. > :15:41.not the career it should be. That's why our investment, 1p on income tax

:15:42. > :15:46.and social care gives us the opportunity to invest properly. Not

:15:47. > :15:51.doing it through the cruel manner through dementia tax like Theresa

:15:52. > :15:55.May is planning. This isn't just dementia? That's right. People have

:15:56. > :16:00.dubbed this the dementia taxment that doesn't tell you the whole

:16:01. > :16:06.picture. People who have a long-term condition of any kind. MS, other

:16:07. > :16:10.things as well, often younger people could find themselves in a situation

:16:11. > :16:14.where their home is at risk. Therefore the home of their loved

:16:15. > :16:19.ones to pay for their care. That is cruel, it is poorly thought out.

:16:20. > :16:23.It's heartless. We're being told by Theresa May, give me a landslide on

:16:24. > :16:27.Thursday and I'll tell you how much of your home you can keep some time

:16:28. > :16:30.in the future. That's not a deal anybody should accept. By backing

:16:31. > :16:34.the Liberal Democrats on Thursday, you can send a strong message that

:16:35. > :16:39.trees' may does not have permission to bring in the dim ex-attacks. As

:16:40. > :16:46.of recent events, security is right at the top of everybody's minds,

:16:47. > :16:53.isn't it? Given what we now know, that the police did know quite a lot

:16:54. > :16:59.about at least one of the attackers involved in London, why do you think

:17:00. > :17:02.that it wasn't able to be stopped? Well, it's important not to jump to

:17:03. > :17:06.conclusions. It's also important to recognise what lessons we can learn

:17:07. > :17:12.both from the outrage in Manchester and the outrage in London just a few

:17:13. > :17:15.days ago, is that it's not that the police and security services don't

:17:16. > :17:20.have the powers that they need. It may well be about resources. We know

:17:21. > :17:24.in man man, the murderer there was reported on five separate occasions

:17:25. > :17:30.by the local community. We know one of the killers from Saturday night

:17:31. > :17:34.was also somebody known to the awe authoritities. It is not that we

:17:35. > :17:39.don't have the ability to track or detain people. It's quite likely

:17:40. > :17:42.because of cuts made in police and intelligence services over the

:17:43. > :17:46.years, we don't have enough pairs of hands or eyes to be able to track

:17:47. > :17:52.people and bring them to justice. The most obvious way to cure that is

:17:53. > :17:55.reverse the cuts made, particularly in policing under Theresa May's time

:17:56. > :18:02.as Home Secretary and Prime Minister. And to invest as we say,

:18:03. > :18:06.?300 million every year in more police, a stronger police force, and

:18:07. > :18:14.therefore keeping us all safe. What it not also be an obvious way to

:18:15. > :18:17.make things safe to role back on Government surveillances, what you

:18:18. > :18:20.suggest in the manifesto? We've seen in the response of Governments is a

:18:21. > :18:26.knee jerk introduction of new legislation. Since the year 2,000,

:18:27. > :18:30.we've had a new piece of anti-terrorism legislation, some

:18:31. > :18:33.form of control act every two years. That hasn't made us any safer. It's

:18:34. > :18:39.allowed politicians to look like they're doing something. What we

:18:40. > :18:44.really need to do is not restrict people's freedom so much as invest

:18:45. > :18:49.in our police and security services. All the evidence shows that's how we

:18:50. > :18:56.keep ourselves safe. Not politicians talking tough. In reality acting

:18:57. > :19:02.weak. Control orders, may well have helped to keep a tab on certain

:19:03. > :19:06.people. You guys have to water that down? Control orders were a great

:19:07. > :19:10.example of a policy that sounded tough and in practice just didn't

:19:11. > :19:17.work. One of those things Tony Blair came up with because it looked good

:19:18. > :19:20.in a news interview and made good and attractive legislation to keep

:19:21. > :19:24.people happy for a while. When it came down to, it simply didn't work.

:19:25. > :19:32.They were constantly being overturned. That's why when in

:19:33. > :19:34.coalition we brought in T Pimm's a far more effective way of

:19:35. > :19:38.controlling people and restricting their movement. It is not that the

:19:39. > :19:43.security services don't have enough you Pokers, it is that they don't

:19:44. > :19:46.have enough resources. Politicians should stop constantly legislating

:19:47. > :19:50.about our freedoms and instead do something to protect all of our

:19:51. > :19:55.security and do what the Liberal Democrats are saying, put the extra

:19:56. > :19:57.?300 million every year into policing, strengthen our security

:19:58. > :20:05.services. They know best how to keep us safe. Not the politicians the

:20:06. > :20:13.Is there a number of police you have in mind? We propose to give the ?300

:20:14. > :20:18.million and allowed chief constables to make the decisions about how they

:20:19. > :20:24.allocate those resources locally. Nice to see you. Are you one of the

:20:25. > :20:33.many Everton fans? Who do you support? Liverpool. At last. They've

:20:34. > :20:41.left one in. I'm a Blackburn Rovers fan. We had Kenny Dalglish. He won

:20:42. > :20:48.the league for you and for us. I'm called Tim. What have you been doing

:20:49. > :20:55.this morning so far? Painting. Excellent. Have you been working

:20:56. > :21:05.with the bird boxes here? Yes. Really great. How long have you

:21:06. > :21:11.lived here? 13 years. Great. Are they a good family who look after

:21:12. > :21:17.you? It was good to meet you. I think we are going to move on and do

:21:18. > :21:18.something else. Nice to meet you. All the best. Good luck in the

:21:19. > :22:11.Champions League. Welcome to book talk. Throughout

:22:12. > :22:12.history, politicians have left their footsteps in the political