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:00:25. > :00:27.Good morning everyone and welcome to our speech on our new immigration

:00:28. > :00:32.But before I start and introduce our immigration spokesman, I will deal

:00:33. > :00:37.quickly with the local election results. We knew that these local

:00:38. > :00:42.election results were going to be difficult. We knew that they were

:00:43. > :00:47.going to be the most difficult local elections were going to fight. We

:00:48. > :00:52.thought about we would be fighting them solely on a local basis. None

:00:53. > :00:59.of us foresaw the fact that they would be made doubly difficult by a

:01:00. > :01:05.general election. At the moment, the Prime Minister is being believed on

:01:06. > :01:12.the issue of Brexit. She is able to talk the talk but walking the walk

:01:13. > :01:20.will begin in September once the negotiations begin in earnest. And

:01:21. > :01:26.Ukip must be there, not only as the guard dogs of the Brexit that we

:01:27. > :01:28.fought so hard for but also as the country's insurance policy. We must

:01:29. > :01:33.be there to ensure that the government does not backslide on

:01:34. > :01:38.these negotiations. And to achieve these negotiations. And to achieve

:01:39. > :01:41.this, Ukip must go into the selection with a clear and

:01:42. > :01:45.forward-thinking range of policies that put Clearwater between

:01:46. > :01:53.ourselves and the establishment parties. This will be most apparent

:01:54. > :02:06.on the issue of immigration. We will be the only party that goes into the

:02:07. > :02:09.selection with an honest and clear commitment to cut immigration.

:02:10. > :02:13.Labour do not want to talk about it, the Conservatives have broken their

:02:14. > :02:22.promises on this issue time and time again. Remember, the Conservatives

:02:23. > :02:31.promised to get net immigration down to the tens of thousands. Last year

:02:32. > :02:38.Theresa May's last as Home Secretary, a city the size of

:02:39. > :02:43.Newcastle upon Tyne came to this country, net. It has been the

:02:44. > :02:51.equivalent of a city the size of Birmingham over the past three

:02:52. > :02:54.years. This is clearly unsustainable and it is clearly unfair,

:02:55. > :03:03.particularly to inner-city communities. It has put strains on

:03:04. > :03:10.the NHS, on housing, schools, on the transport network, and jobs.

:03:11. > :03:23.Therefore we propose to do something about it. Therefore I can announce

:03:24. > :03:27.today that Ukip will go into the selection -- this election with a

:03:28. > :03:34.policy of balanced migration, meaning zero net immigration over

:03:35. > :03:40.the next five years. For more information on this policy, I

:03:41. > :03:52.handover to Ukip's immigration spokesman, John Bickley. Good

:03:53. > :03:56.morning. I think you might have seen some of these faces here at one or

:03:57. > :04:01.two might buy elections I have stood at over the past few years, good to

:04:02. > :04:10.see you again. Thank you, Paul. If what will be a Remained dominated

:04:11. > :04:15.Tory government after June the 8th passes Brexit, then outside of the

:04:16. > :04:18.EU Britain will finally be able to reassess its immigration policies,

:04:19. > :04:21.to achieve its own priorities as a country. This is one of the most

:04:22. > :04:28.exciting political opportunities this country has had for many years.

:04:29. > :04:34.If we get it right, there is the potential for calming public

:04:35. > :04:41.concerns about immigration, improving race relations but still

:04:42. > :04:45.allowing the brightest from around the world to contribute to our

:04:46. > :04:49.society and economy. Public concerns about immigration is focused on

:04:50. > :04:54.three main factors. The pressure placed on public services and

:04:55. > :04:59.housing, the loss of community cohesion, and the impact on the

:05:00. > :05:05.domestic labour market where wage levels for all working-class jobs

:05:06. > :05:08.have stagnated. The unsustainable scale of immigration we have seen

:05:09. > :05:14.since the advent of the Blair government in 97, we have sent out

:05:15. > :05:19.search parties for migrants, and that is the main cause of the three

:05:20. > :05:24.no should I have mentioned. The Labour Party deliberately engineered

:05:25. > :05:28.mass uncontrolled immigration for electoral advantage. They also

:05:29. > :05:32.wanted to change our society without our permission. They wanted to turn

:05:33. > :05:36.Britain into a multicultural society. I do not remember them

:05:37. > :05:41.asking us if that is what we wanted. I thought that was how democracies

:05:42. > :05:47.worked. They assumed that their core vote had nowhere else to go. And so

:05:48. > :05:53.they ignored them and use the benefits system to effectively bribe

:05:54. > :05:57.them to keep voting Labour. Think about it. If you exclude small

:05:58. > :06:04.islands and city states, England, the part of the UK that the vast

:06:05. > :06:09.majority of migrants settle in, is now the sixth most overcrowded

:06:10. > :06:14.country in the world. The levels of migration seen under Tony Blair and

:06:15. > :06:18.Brown continued unabated under Cameron and Theresa May. In

:06:19. > :06:23.contravention of a specific Conservative Thomas Paul has just

:06:24. > :06:28.mentioned to bring migration down to the tens of thousands. I did not get

:06:29. > :06:33.an a level in maths but I understand what is tens of thousands mean. The

:06:34. > :06:36.Conservatives cannot even control non-EU migration. That is what we

:06:37. > :06:42.are supposed to have total control of. Are they incompetent? Or are

:06:43. > :06:46.they deliberately misleading voters when they promised to bring

:06:47. > :06:54.immigration down? Most likely both, I think. It follows that for public

:06:55. > :06:57.faith in our immigration system to be restored, we need to deliver

:06:58. > :07:02.lower levels of immigration from now on. And this is the key point that

:07:03. > :07:07.no amount of distraction from the other parties can get away from.

:07:08. > :07:14.Ukip is the only party with the political will and the plan to

:07:15. > :07:18.deliver this. Ukip will appoint a commission to oversee the reduction

:07:19. > :07:25.of immigration levels, working to a guideline from around 600,000 in a

:07:26. > :07:29.typical year to 300,000, measured over a rolling five-year period.

:07:30. > :07:34.This will help it to achieve the main target we will demand of it. To

:07:35. > :07:42.refuse net migration, measured over a five year periods, 2-0,

:07:43. > :07:46.maintaining that over the long term. Achieving the target will leave

:07:47. > :07:49.Britain in a good position, known as balanced migration. The case for

:07:50. > :07:55.such a policy has been argued by Frank Field for many years. The

:07:56. > :08:00.Labour MP for Birkenhead leads the House of Commons balanced migration

:08:01. > :08:04.group. As Theresa May herself admitted in this speech to the

:08:05. > :08:09.Conservative Party conference, the case for high immigration on

:08:10. > :08:11.economic grounds has been massively overstated because advocates are

:08:12. > :08:20.based their arguments on its impact on the GDP figure, rather than the

:08:21. > :08:23.more relevant GDP Capital One, which is the Guild migrants are unlikely

:08:24. > :08:28.to increase. If you remember, Theresa May said that at best the

:08:29. > :08:34.net economic and physical effects of high immigration is close to zero.

:08:35. > :08:38.So there is no case in the national interest for immigration on the

:08:39. > :08:44.scale we have experienced over the last decade. And yet since making a

:08:45. > :08:51.speech, Theresa May has continued to use construct -- continued to

:08:52. > :09:06.encourage... They support the Bishop EU and they appear to advocate for

:09:07. > :09:11.continued membership of the EU. It has been pointed out that a net

:09:12. > :09:15.immigration target for a particular year is hard to achieve because no

:09:16. > :09:20.one can predict in advance what the skill of immigration might be. Ukip

:09:21. > :09:23.will not ask the new commission with achieving annual targets, but

:09:24. > :09:29.bringing migration into balance over five years and keeping it close to

:09:30. > :09:32.zero, measured as a rolling average, does not suffer from this conceptual

:09:33. > :09:39.flaw. What it will require is political will. And the

:09:40. > :09:42.determination to resist vested interests among the corporate

:09:43. > :09:48.sector, who get the upside of an endless supply of cheap labour from

:09:49. > :09:54.overseas are largely avoided the downsides felt in working-class

:09:55. > :09:59.communities. There is nothing about the track record from the other

:10:00. > :10:05.parties that suggest that they have the necessary political will on this

:10:06. > :10:09.issue. It is only the Ukip campaign that has enabled them to talk about

:10:10. > :10:17.it at all. The British people can be sure that Ukip are profoundly fitted

:10:18. > :10:22.to radical cuts in immigration. -- radically committed. We will acquit

:10:23. > :10:28.the migration control commission with an expensive to get powers and

:10:29. > :10:31.controls as it sets about its path of steering Britain towards balanced

:10:32. > :10:35.migration. We will introduce an Australian style points system to

:10:36. > :10:39.rank migration applicants and we will also introduce a work visa

:10:40. > :10:44.system that is applicable equally to applicants from anywhere in the

:10:45. > :10:49.world, except the Republic of Ireland, where in respect of the

:10:50. > :10:54.Common travel area, we will continue that passed Brexit. The interaction

:10:55. > :10:56.of these two policies will ensure that the limited numbers of

:10:57. > :11:00.successful immigrants admitted to Britain will be amongst the

:11:01. > :11:05.brightest and the best. The people with the skills that our economy

:11:06. > :11:08.must needs. We will introduce a moratorium on unskilled and low

:11:09. > :11:16.skilled immigration to last for at least five years following our

:11:17. > :11:20.departure. And resumption of full sovereign control of our borders.

:11:21. > :11:36.This will prevent the taxpayer from picking up substantial bills for.

:11:37. > :11:40.Let's see working-class people starts to earn more money. Because

:11:41. > :11:48.their wages have stagnated for many years. We will, however, operate a

:11:49. > :11:53.seasonal workers scheme for agricultural sectors. Based on a

:11:54. > :11:55.six-month bizarre. The number of visas introduced will progressively

:11:56. > :12:02.be reduced over time by the migration council. As other measures

:12:03. > :12:07.are taken across the welfare system to increase the availability of

:12:08. > :12:12.home-grown labour. Only Ukip's policies have sustainability at the

:12:13. > :12:17.heart, with ethics and fairness. It is only by pursuing these policies

:12:18. > :12:21.and introducing a bespoke UK Visa system that we can be confident of

:12:22. > :12:26.immigration will benefit Britain and more importantly its citizens. I

:12:27. > :12:30.think it is fair to say that if you are a betting person that there will

:12:31. > :12:36.be a Tory government on the June the 8th with a large majority. That

:12:37. > :12:43.being the case, they will have no excuses to not deliver on their

:12:44. > :12:49.immigration policies. And for that matter, Brexit, which as far as Ukip

:12:50. > :12:54.is concerned, we leave the EU and its institutions, and their control

:12:55. > :12:59.on the UK, without paying an exit fee. As you all know, we have

:13:00. > :13:04.contributed almost ?200 billion net to the EU since we have joined, one

:13:05. > :13:06.of their top three paymasters. I think we have done our bit for

:13:07. > :13:39.contributing to the EU. The Tories have a worse job of

:13:40. > :13:45.immigration than the Labour Party, that takes some beating. Non-EU

:13:46. > :13:50.immigration which we're supposed to have total control of is out of

:13:51. > :13:56.control. By the Tories having 100% control of it. You could have forced

:13:57. > :14:01.the Tories to state they are going to deliver Ukip policies. Isn't it

:14:02. > :14:06.ironic? Brexit, immigration and grammar schools. We believe they

:14:07. > :14:12.will not do so. As was exemplified by Amber arrived. The Home Secretary

:14:13. > :14:17.totally failed to convince anyone that the Tories are serious about

:14:18. > :14:21.controlling immigration. They know that last year getting referendum

:14:22. > :14:25.result was driven by our country at the desire to take back control of

:14:26. > :14:30.immigration but there is no will in the Tory party to deliver. Either

:14:31. > :14:35.they maintain Theresa May's vacuous policy of ten thousands a year. A

:14:36. > :14:40.promise they failed to deliver in seven years. In the seven years

:14:41. > :14:43.since Theresa May has been Home Secretary or Prime Minister, 2

:14:44. > :14:47.million net extra people have come to this country, almost two times

:14:48. > :14:53.the size of Birmingham, thank you Theresa May. That's 4 million people

:14:54. > :15:04.in gross terms, four The Times of Birmingham. The Tories are so thin

:15:05. > :15:07.hooks with their multinational corporate chance they would rather

:15:08. > :15:14.see wages for people in this country to go down and not act on the

:15:15. > :15:18.interests of the big corporations. Ukip will continue to hold the

:15:19. > :15:22.Tories to account and if necessary, force them to deliver what the

:15:23. > :15:24.British people want. Ukip hasn't and won't be going away. Thank you.

:15:25. > :15:34.APPLAUSE We will do question and answer

:15:35. > :16:02.together. Doesn't Theresa May half of the

:16:03. > :16:11.ultimate immigration pledge, Brexit. What need is there now for Ukip?

:16:12. > :16:15.Well, Brexit means you can take back control but whether you actually

:16:16. > :16:18.have the willpower to take back control is another thing. Let's not

:16:19. > :16:25.forget the Tories have had the power to do something about non-EU

:16:26. > :16:30.migration for many years but still running at an unacceptable level.

:16:31. > :16:34.What's clear is that on June 23, people didn't just walk to take back

:16:35. > :16:38.control of our borders, they voted to cut immigration and I think

:16:39. > :16:40.Theresa May's past record as Home Secretary and the Conservatives's

:16:41. > :16:46.past record on this issue simply proves that the won't... You've had

:16:47. > :16:50.David Davis in the past fortnight talking about immigration levels

:16:51. > :16:53.running at this level for the foreseeable future, into the next

:16:54. > :16:57.decade, that's completely unacceptable to the British people.

:16:58. > :17:00.The only party that will have a clear and honest policy on

:17:01. > :17:19.immigration going into this election is Ukip. Nigel Farage says... I

:17:20. > :17:22.can't hear you. Nigel Farage said yesterday that Ukip could disband

:17:23. > :17:28.within two news if Theresa May delivers the type of Brexit the

:17:29. > :17:34.British people want. Do you agree and are you the man to answer this?

:17:35. > :17:43.You are so facetious. It's not really what he said. He spoke about

:17:44. > :17:48.if Theresa May delivers a full Ukip style of Brexit. It isn't going to

:17:49. > :17:53.happen, there is no chance that will happen whatsoever. I'm confident

:17:54. > :17:56.that she will begin to backslide once these negotiations start, I'm

:17:57. > :18:01.convinced that fisheries will be bartered away first, I think there

:18:02. > :18:05.will certainly be movement on immigration and a lack of control of

:18:06. > :18:12.our borders. I think we'll still end up paying some form of divorce Bill.

:18:13. > :18:15.I don't think... Looking at half past record I'm pretty confident

:18:16. > :18:21.that Ukip will not only still survive into the future, but the

:18:22. > :18:26.full Brexit Ukip, once these negotiations start, it could be

:18:27. > :18:31.bigger and I predict it will be bigger than the prefix if you was.

:18:32. > :18:41.Am I the right man to Yazidis questions? At the moment I'm the

:18:42. > :18:46.leader of Ukip. Can you be specific about who you are not going to let

:18:47. > :18:50.in, is the reason you just going so far in the other direction is

:18:51. > :18:56.because you want to try to trump the Tories because they swallowed your

:18:57. > :19:04.votes at the local elections? The reality is the Tory party looks like

:19:05. > :19:08.a Ukip light party, government. He is going to promote Brexit, David

:19:09. > :19:11.Cameron's government didn't want to leave the EU, she tells her she's

:19:12. > :19:14.gone to control immigration, I don't think David Cameron's government

:19:15. > :19:18.would do that, we were told by the Tories for decades they were not to

:19:19. > :19:22.be judges grammar schools, Theresa May now says she's gone to do that.

:19:23. > :19:26.From a pure policy standpoint and with nobody on the green benches, I

:19:27. > :19:34.would say currently we're in the more successful party in the world.

:19:35. > :19:38.For actually forcing the government to do our bidding and do the bidding

:19:39. > :19:44.of the millions of people who voted for Ukip. In fact, many Ukip members

:19:45. > :19:48.and supporters are not stupid, they realise the only person who

:19:49. > :19:52.technically can deliver Brexit is Theresa May, I think they are voting

:19:53. > :19:56.and will vote for Theresa May, not the Tories. When you speak to Labour

:19:57. > :20:03.voters who are our members or who voted Ukip, it's interesting, they

:20:04. > :20:07.always say, John, sorry, we want Brexit, it's what Ukip fought for,

:20:08. > :20:11.we have fought for Theresa May. Not the Labour Party. It's interesting

:20:12. > :20:14.with Labour voters, they cannot bring themselves to say they are

:20:15. > :20:19.going to vote for the Tory party, I'm voting for Theresa May. If

:20:20. > :20:24.Theresa May doesn't deliver Brexit, which means leaving the EU period

:20:25. > :20:30.and she doesn't control immigration, the Tory party, who most people are

:20:31. > :20:34.going to vote for Theresa May and still hate them, will be in big

:20:35. > :20:42.trouble. We will be there to pick up the pieces. Does it feel like you

:20:43. > :20:56.are leading the most successful party in the world?

:20:57. > :21:04.As for the more successful party, we have been, in terms of driving the

:21:05. > :21:11.government into the position it's in now on Brexit, the most influential

:21:12. > :21:16.party of the 20th century in this country. Obviously we have forced a

:21:17. > :21:20.reluctant Prime Minister to give a referendum he didn't want to give,

:21:21. > :21:24.we went out and campaign for Brexit hard to ensure that Brexit was

:21:25. > :21:29.achieved and obviously the people went out in bigger numbers than ever

:21:30. > :21:32.before on June 23 in a referendum which will galvanise the country and

:21:33. > :21:44.of people interested in politics and they voted to leave the school trick

:21:45. > :21:49.-- Schelotto -- leave the block. As for students, as for the detail of

:21:50. > :21:54.this, we want an Australian points-based system, which will not

:21:55. > :21:58.discriminate against anybody. If you have got the skills that this

:21:59. > :22:02.country requires, we want you to come here and work and take part

:22:03. > :22:07.fully in our society. Of course, students will also be, we don't want

:22:08. > :22:15.students taken out of the immigration figures, we want them to

:22:16. > :22:16.still be counted and I think there are certain forces in the

:22:17. > :22:20.Conservative Party who wanted them to be taken out so they could

:22:21. > :22:35.massage the figures to show they were coming down when in fact they

:22:36. > :22:40.were not. Write using the 200,000 people per year are still arriving

:22:41. > :22:44.if your policy comes right? With net zero migration, in the initial

:22:45. > :22:49.five-year rolling term from an average of 300,000 a year. We are

:22:50. > :22:54.loving a lot of flexibility net. A lot of stability for the migration

:22:55. > :22:57.control commission, talking with industry and all sectors of society

:22:58. > :23:01.to get the balance right and that means in any given year it will go

:23:02. > :23:06.up and down. Very much about setting the parameters of what we want to

:23:07. > :23:07.achieve but then recognising the need for flexibility in labour

:23:08. > :23:18.markets. Macro the key thing here, for as long as

:23:19. > :23:23.any of us can remember, no government, labour or Tory Lib Dem

:23:24. > :23:26.has managed to achieve net zero migration. In the last 15 years it's

:23:27. > :23:32.got out of control, starting with Tony Blair, Gordon Brown government

:23:33. > :23:39.who deliberately engineered massive uncontrolled immigration. It's a

:23:40. > :23:43.zero figure, balanced migration and that gives us an opportunity to

:23:44. > :23:46.actually started what people in this country want with are just pulling

:23:47. > :23:59.up the drawbridge, we don't want to do that.

:24:00. > :24:05.I'll answer that point first and come back onto it. I want a great

:24:06. > :24:10.Brexit, I don't want a bad Brexit, I'm prepared to put country above

:24:11. > :24:16.party, I want the best Brexit possible. I wish Theresa May all the

:24:17. > :24:20.best going into these negotiations. One of the duties of Ukip in the

:24:21. > :24:23.years to come, we must be the backbone of the government when they

:24:24. > :24:26.enter into these negotiations and that's why it's so imperative that

:24:27. > :24:31.Ukip stays on the pitch and Ukip ravines viable electoral force

:24:32. > :24:36.because as Nigel Farage said yesterday, Ukip is the country and

:24:37. > :24:43.an insurance policy. In case the government do begin to backslide. As

:24:44. > :24:49.for your first question, which was about people coming in, people going

:24:50. > :24:52.out, the point about zero net migration over a five-year period,

:24:53. > :24:56.firstly this has been called for number of years in the House of

:24:57. > :25:00.Commons by Frank Field and Nick Soames and others and this is all

:25:01. > :25:05.about managing the population because at the moment, we are

:25:06. > :25:12.allowing net our population to grow at the rate of a city the size of

:25:13. > :25:16.Newcastle every single year. It's bad for the NHS, it puts pressure on

:25:17. > :25:21.the NHS, it puts pressure on housing, it puts pressure on the

:25:22. > :25:22.transport network, on schools, which are bursting to capacity, it's all

:25:23. > :25:45.about managing population. The zero migration is being said in

:25:46. > :25:53.a flexible way. Have you going to support the NHS and the other

:25:54. > :26:01.things? Your fault collapsed -- your vote collapsed. It is quite

:26:02. > :26:05.reasonable for a country, a so-called sovereign nation to decide

:26:06. > :26:10.who comes here and we think our target is reasonable. It still says

:26:11. > :26:16.we want to attract the brightest and best in the world. I want anyone in

:26:17. > :26:19.the world to look at Great Britain and believe that at some point in

:26:20. > :26:23.their life they can come here on holiday, obviously and spend money,

:26:24. > :26:28.come here to study, come here to work and maybe come here to live.

:26:29. > :26:32.Completely open door in that respect but we must control it, we must set

:26:33. > :26:39.the terms of reference. We still have over 800,000 kids 16-24 who are

:26:40. > :26:45.not working, about 1.5 million people unemployed, we sent hundreds

:26:46. > :26:50.of thousands of people into higher education and there's a question

:26:51. > :26:55.whether that's the best for all of them and the country. Many of us

:26:56. > :26:58.think that the reason we have so many people in higher education was

:26:59. > :27:01.the Labour government wanting to massage the employment figures so

:27:02. > :27:06.the more people they higher education the better the employment

:27:07. > :27:10.figures. There are great opportunities to take the human

:27:11. > :27:13.capital we have in this country and make it more productive. The one

:27:14. > :27:17.thing immigration has actually shown, let's be honest about this,

:27:18. > :27:21.there's been no shortage of jobs in this country. That's one of the

:27:22. > :27:26.things it shows. There's no excuse for British people to say there

:27:27. > :27:31.aren't any jobs. That's something that immigration has shown us, we're

:27:32. > :27:34.an incredible economy that is creating lots of opportunities but

:27:35. > :27:38.let's make sure it's our people first and foremost who are given

:27:39. > :27:44.opportunities to move up the value chain and to take those jobs and

:27:45. > :27:48.when it suits us, not some bureaucrats in Brussels, we'll

:27:49. > :27:51.decide who needs to come here and the idea of the migration control

:27:52. > :27:57.commission is that they will have the ability to move these numbers

:27:58. > :28:01.around on an annual basis but knowing that over five years it must

:28:02. > :28:05.average net zero migration. That seems to me think that the majority

:28:06. > :28:10.of British people will say is pragmatic, sensible, grown-up and

:28:11. > :28:15.actually the only party they can trust to deliver on immigration

:28:16. > :28:18.policies for us because the Tories can't under Labour, the Greens and

:28:19. > :28:25.the Lib Dems they want everyone in the world to come here and to hell

:28:26. > :28:29.with the consequences for our public services and social cohesion. The

:28:30. > :28:32.dip in the polls came within 24 hours of the Prime Minister

:28:33. > :28:40.announcing there was meant to be a general election. It predated what

:28:41. > :28:46.you called Ukip on terrible. We lost 4% the opinion polls. I think over

:28:47. > :28:54.the next four and a half weeks, you will see Ukip gradually climb once

:28:55. > :28:57.again. This manifesto will be radical, it will be forward

:28:58. > :29:03.thinking, it will be ahead of its time in many ways and I want Ukip to

:29:04. > :29:07.be out there and I want Ukip to be leading the debate, just as we did

:29:08. > :29:12.over Brexit and over immigration, just as we did over grammar schools

:29:13. > :29:20.and Ukip can look forward, I believe, to a pretty prosperous

:29:21. > :29:30.future. You just predicted the government will backslide over

:29:31. > :29:37.Brexit, you will not be challenging the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

:29:38. > :29:47.and the election. What proportion of seats will you be contesting and do

:29:48. > :29:54.you anticipate your endorsement of the Tories will go down well?

:29:55. > :30:00.There will be Labour MPs that we will not challenge but they will be

:30:01. > :30:08.real Brexiteers. We will be standing in the best majority of the country.

:30:09. > :30:18.Just a quick couple of questions about immigration policy. If people

:30:19. > :30:29.are at university and the UK, and we have zero net migration, overseas

:30:30. > :30:39.students generates a large amount of income, is that a concern? And also,

:30:40. > :30:45.with the ruling six-month bizarre, can you go home for a weekend? Let

:30:46. > :30:52.me say this about students coming in, they are welcome to come here.

:30:53. > :30:55.When they come here, they put pressure on housing and public

:30:56. > :30:59.services. You cannot just have an unlimited number of students coming

:31:00. > :31:04.here without understanding the impact that might happen on public

:31:05. > :31:08.services. Think people forget -- and the thing people forget is that if

:31:09. > :31:10.you want to improve your infrastructure or build new

:31:11. > :31:14.infrastructure, it takes many years. In doing that, you need to make

:31:15. > :31:19.predictions about the size of your population and how many houses you

:31:20. > :31:24.need to build, how many hospital places, how many hospital beds,

:31:25. > :31:27.school places. If you do not have ideas about what these numbers might

:31:28. > :31:30.look like, you cannot properly plan and we have seen the consequences of

:31:31. > :31:35.not being able to plan because immigration has been out of control,

:31:36. > :31:39.where we have unsustainable pressure on public services and housing.

:31:40. > :31:42.Anyone sensible will say, let's get a grip of this, let's start to

:31:43. > :31:47.understand what the numbers will look like over the next five or ten

:31:48. > :31:50.years. By setting parameters but leaving flexibility within the

:31:51. > :31:54.parameters, you are starting to be able to make some predictions about

:31:55. > :31:57.where the population is going and then that means you can properly

:31:58. > :32:02.plan infrastructure. That is the sensible thing to do. Back to

:32:03. > :32:06.seasonal workers, there you go, that is how it works. You can have a

:32:07. > :32:11.six-month seasonal Visa if you are coming to work in the agricultural

:32:12. > :32:14.is nice. I don't think we are very productive in this country during

:32:15. > :32:20.the winter months when there is no or frost on the ground. They need to

:32:21. > :32:21.be here when the work is available and that is during the summer

:32:22. > :32:26.months. So we issue a six-month months. So we issue a six-month

:32:27. > :32:30.visa. We also want to encourage our own people to get back into that

:32:31. > :32:33.industry. These to be a time when it was a rite of passage for people

:32:34. > :32:38.going through an internal gap year in this country on the way to

:32:39. > :32:42.university or at university, to get some extra cash in, what would they

:32:43. > :32:46.do? They would go fruit picking. That was the way we work an

:32:47. > :32:52.interesting and productive economy. The idea that we just have to keep

:32:53. > :32:55.looking abroad all the time to fill our requirements is crazy. We need

:32:56. > :32:59.to make sure we have used up the human capital that exists in this

:33:00. > :33:04.country and maximised its potential mop and then let's attract as many

:33:05. > :33:10.people are make sense from anywhere in the world. I am not interested in

:33:11. > :33:14.the colour of their skin, their religion, their sexuality, I don't

:33:15. > :33:17.care. If they can bring about used to this country and it fits in with

:33:18. > :33:37.what we're trying to achieve, great, welcome to Britain. Last question, I

:33:38. > :33:42.will take two. Have you bought a house in Boston and Skegness? I have

:33:43. > :33:45.not, but nor did I buy a house in Stoke. It will be rented. Will I be

:33:46. > :33:47.staying in the constituency? staying in the constituency?

:33:48. > :34:00.Probably at some point. Next question. In terms of the six-month

:34:01. > :34:07.Visa for seasonal workers, you talked about wanting to reduce

:34:08. > :34:17.entitlement in Britain, what happens if they do not take up this role? Is

:34:18. > :34:28.a danger you become a parody party, without any MPs? Are you almost

:34:29. > :34:33.becoming a parody party? I think you will find the majority of seasonal

:34:34. > :34:39.workers in this country are British. But beyond that, are we a parody of

:34:40. > :34:43.ourselves? Well, look, we were not actually just at the forefront but

:34:44. > :34:46.the party that forced the biggest decision the British people have

:34:47. > :34:51.ever made in a generation and could possibly be the decision we will --

:34:52. > :34:53.the biggest decision we have made in the first part of the century, the

:34:54. > :35:01.decision for us to leave the European Union. I think we have been

:35:02. > :35:09.quite successful. I spoke to Steven Woolfe a few weeks ago and he said

:35:10. > :35:15.that Ukip have lost their way. They once had a golden opportunity but

:35:16. > :35:21.the next election will be a breaking point for them. What do you think of

:35:22. > :35:27.those comments? He would say that, wouldn't it? That's it. Thank you

:35:28. > :35:32.very much. Right, well done. Cheers.