0:00:18 > 0:00:19Good afternoon.
0:00:19 > 0:00:21Welcome to the programme and our weekly coverage
0:00:21 > 0:00:24of questions to the First Minister.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26Carwyn Jones is expecting questions on issues as varied as unemployment,
0:00:26 > 0:00:29dementia and the housing supply.
0:00:29 > 0:00:33We'll also see if the party leaders continue to press him about claims
0:00:33 > 0:00:35of bullying within his government.
0:00:35 > 0:00:39We're on Twitter of course. You can find us @walespolitics.
0:00:39 > 0:00:42Well, business in the Siambr has already started so let's take a look
0:00:42 > 0:00:49at today's questions to the First Minister.
0:00:49 > 0:00:55I call members to order. The first item on our agenda this afternoon is
0:00:55 > 0:01:00questions to the First Minister. Neil Hamilton. Will the First
0:01:00 > 0:01:04Minister make a statement on an appointment rates in Mid and West
0:01:04 > 0:01:11Wales?In 2017 the unemployment rate was for %, below the Welsh and UK
0:01:11 > 0:01:18averages.He will know that the Swansea travel to work area includes
0:01:18 > 0:01:20large part of Carmarthenshire and therefore the announcement by Amazon
0:01:20 > 0:01:25that they were creating 2000 jobs for the Christmas trade will be very
0:01:25 > 0:01:29welcome. But less welcome is the fact that they are doing a lot of
0:01:29 > 0:01:33their recruitment through a company called the Central European
0:01:33 > 0:01:36recruitment of contract services, that is basically do best in people
0:01:36 > 0:01:40from Hungary rather than from Carmarthenshire. One of my
0:01:40 > 0:01:44constituents have contacted me to say that she has been contacted by
0:01:44 > 0:01:48this company wanting to know if she had residential rooms to rent which
0:01:48 > 0:01:54could be hot bedded in three shifts for these workers. Does this tend to
0:01:54 > 0:01:58undermine the purpose of the grants which Amazon has received from the
0:01:58 > 0:02:02Welsh Government for their warehousing facility in Swansea?
0:02:02 > 0:02:07Those grants will have been given some years ago, certainly before my
0:02:07 > 0:02:10time as First Minister. I am interested in looking further at
0:02:10 > 0:02:16what he has raised. If you can write to me with the details.Unemployment
0:02:16 > 0:02:20in mid Wales is very row budgie VAP ahead lags behind cities like
0:02:20 > 0:02:33Cardiff and Swansea -- but GVHD. A potential growth deal for mid Wales
0:02:33 > 0:02:37is one of the ways to ensure that we foster the right skills and training
0:02:37 > 0:02:43for businesses to thrive. As part of a potential growth deal, do you
0:02:43 > 0:02:48agree with me that the university status facility within Powys could
0:02:48 > 0:02:50provide the stimulus needed to ensure that mid Wales has the right
0:02:50 > 0:02:56mix of skills for the future in order to bring about higher salaries
0:02:56 > 0:03:01and deliver a more prosperous economy in mid Wales? This it's an
0:03:01 > 0:03:08interesting suggestion.There is a university in Aberystwyth, which is
0:03:08 > 0:03:12not in Powys, but he makes the point about Powys. It is a matter for
0:03:12 > 0:03:18discussion between the further education provider and any
0:03:18 > 0:03:21particular university. He is right to say that the way to drive it is
0:03:21 > 0:03:25through investment in skills. We know productivity is a problem in
0:03:25 > 0:03:28the UK and Wales and we know that the more skills people have, the
0:03:28 > 0:03:34more productive they become. If there were such a proposal to be
0:03:34 > 0:03:37made, it would be something that would be helpful to the local
0:03:37 > 0:03:44economy.Simon Thomas.One thing which would transform the economy in
0:03:44 > 0:03:48West Wales would be to see a tidal lagoon being allowed in Swansea Bay
0:03:48 > 0:03:53in terms of employment, skills and in transforming the way we deal with
0:03:53 > 0:03:59energy in Wales and also creating pathways for people so that they can
0:03:59 > 0:04:05stay in West Wales and stay in Welsh communities. Wednesday is
0:04:05 > 0:04:08realistically perhaps the last opportunity for the Westminster
0:04:08 > 0:04:13government to give the green light for this project. Have you contacted
0:04:13 > 0:04:17them recently? Are you still putting pressure on the Westminster
0:04:17 > 0:04:20government to make this announcement on Wednesday in the budget that the
0:04:20 > 0:04:24tidal lagoon should proceed and that they should be an agreement on the
0:04:24 > 0:04:28way it is going to be paid for and the way which will benefit the Welsh
0:04:28 > 0:04:35economy?I have a number of times. I raise this personally with the Prime
0:04:35 > 0:04:38Minister of the United Kingdom about three weeks ago when I met her,
0:04:38 > 0:04:43telling her how vital the lagoon was and how important it was not only to
0:04:43 > 0:04:46the economy of the bay but much more broadly than that and I have kept
0:04:46 > 0:04:52the pressure on. That includes the Secretary of State, because it
0:04:52 > 0:04:55appears that he has more influence in order to ensure that this project
0:04:55 > 0:05:02goes ahead for the benefit of the West and its economy.Lynne Neagle.
0:05:02 > 0:05:06Will the First Minister make a statement on the Welsh Government's
0:05:06 > 0:05:10efforts to make Wales a dementia friendly country?We are committed
0:05:10 > 0:05:15to making Wales a dementia friendly nation. We are developing and
0:05:15 > 0:05:18implementing a new national dementia plan. We hope to have that agreed
0:05:18 > 0:05:23with stakeholders by Christmas and publishing it as soon as possible in
0:05:23 > 0:05:27the New Year.Last month I was really proud to present a primary
0:05:27 > 0:05:31school with a dementia friendly award, the first school in Gwent and
0:05:31 > 0:05:35one of the very first in Wales to receive the award. Every single
0:05:35 > 0:05:40class in the school has taken part in the initiative, from reception to
0:05:40 > 0:05:44year six, with older pupils also visiting patients at County Hospital
0:05:44 > 0:05:47and participating in an innovative scheme where they decorated and
0:05:47 > 0:05:51personalised Zimmer frames so that people with dementia could recognise
0:05:51 > 0:05:57their Zimmer and use it more often. Will the First Minister join me in
0:05:57 > 0:06:01congratulating the primary school on the fantastic achievement of
0:06:01 > 0:06:06achieving this award and also on the brilliant intergenerational work
0:06:06 > 0:06:08they are pioneering, which we know can make such a huge difference to
0:06:08 > 0:06:14the lives of people living with dementia.Very much so. I think it
0:06:14 > 0:06:21is incredible, the innovation that has been shown. Ways in which most
0:06:21 > 0:06:29people would not think of. It is hugely important that, it is not a
0:06:29 > 0:06:31phrase generally, but intergenerational understanding is
0:06:31 > 0:06:35promoted, so that young people understand what the effects of
0:06:35 > 0:06:39dementia are, how they can help people with dementia, and that they
0:06:39 > 0:06:47are able to help what families and individuals face. It is a fantastic
0:06:47 > 0:06:50idea, fantastic concept and I very much congratulate the school.Mark
0:06:50 > 0:06:59Reckless.As well as Wales ageing as a nation, the trends are quite
0:06:59 > 0:07:03different within different parts of Wales and the valleys, for example,
0:07:03 > 0:07:10have a much greater demographic ageing trend than the nation as a
0:07:10 > 0:07:15whole. Are you confident that our provision of dementia services is
0:07:15 > 0:07:19sufficiently decentralised and also the resourcing of it is sufficiently
0:07:19 > 0:07:25aimed at those areas with the easing -- ageing trend is most severe?I
0:07:25 > 0:07:30am. If there was any difficulty in that regard, I would expect it to be
0:07:30 > 0:07:33part of the discussions taking place with stakeholders over the dementia
0:07:33 > 0:07:38action plan and I expect that to be reflected in the plan if that is
0:07:38 > 0:07:42identified as a challenge. What I can say is we have been working with
0:07:42 > 0:07:45the task unfinished group, which has been working with the Alzheimer's
0:07:45 > 0:07:52Society, and the older prisons Commissioner as well, -- older
0:07:52 > 0:07:59prisons Commissioner as well. We hope to be in a position where we
0:07:59 > 0:08:08can agree the plan by the end of this year.Rhun ap Iorwerth.First
0:08:08 > 0:08:11Minister, though one issue that comes up time and again when I speak
0:08:11 > 0:08:20to families of those who have dementia of the problem in Wales of
0:08:20 > 0:08:23having a specific contract worker for families who want someone to
0:08:23 > 0:08:30turn to whenever they wish to do that. Having that kind of pledge and
0:08:30 > 0:08:34ensuring that such a worker is available would allow Wales to be
0:08:34 > 0:08:37innovative in the care it provides to people with dementia and their
0:08:37 > 0:08:41families. Does the First Minister share my view that we need that as
0:08:41 > 0:08:47part of the final strategy and is he confident that it will be part of
0:08:47 > 0:08:51the strategy?Well, this is something that will have to be
0:08:51 > 0:08:55considered as part of a consultation. May I say that the
0:08:55 > 0:09:04plan itself is built on the basis of acknowledging the fact that these
0:09:04 > 0:09:07people suffering with dementia have rights and therefore in what way can
0:09:07 > 0:09:14we ensure that those rights are respected? This will have been part
0:09:14 > 0:09:17of the discussion which has taken place to date and it will be part of
0:09:17 > 0:09:21the discussion on the plan itself. May I also say that the plan itself
0:09:21 > 0:09:28will also be considered by an action group in order to make sure that the
0:09:28 > 0:09:34plan works in the way that it should.According to health in
0:09:34 > 0:09:38Wales, dementia affects over 42,000 people in Wales alone and it is
0:09:38 > 0:09:42estimated that in just a few short years this could increase by at
0:09:42 > 0:09:47least a third. It is therefore vital that Wales becomes a dementia
0:09:47 > 0:09:51friendly nation as soon as possible to ensure that those living with
0:09:51 > 0:09:55this terrible condition, and their families, are supported at every
0:09:55 > 0:10:00stage. First Minister, what is your government doing to increase
0:10:00 > 0:10:04awareness about dementia and how to reduce the risk of developing this
0:10:04 > 0:10:09devastating condition?At the heart of our approach is the need to
0:10:09 > 0:10:12ensure that people can remain as independent as possible for as long
0:10:12 > 0:10:15as possible and that means working with organisations to promote
0:10:15 > 0:10:21dementia friendly environments. We have heard an example from Lynne
0:10:21 > 0:10:25Neagle on how that can be done in schools. It is important that people
0:10:25 > 0:10:28understand that dementia is not something that affects everybody in
0:10:28 > 0:10:33the same way and at the same rate. We know that people's needs will
0:10:33 > 0:10:37change over time. It is hugely important that people understand
0:10:37 > 0:10:42that. Part of promoting a dementia friendly Wales, increasing people's
0:10:42 > 0:10:47understanding of the condition is an important part of that.Questions
0:10:47 > 0:10:52now from the party leaders. Leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood.In the
0:10:52 > 0:11:00next week we are expecting a vote to convene a session on scrutiny of
0:11:00 > 0:11:04bullying in the Welsh Government and whether or not this Assembly has
0:11:04 > 0:11:09been misled. You have denied that you received allegations of bullying
0:11:09 > 0:11:13specifically but you also said that any issues raised with you were
0:11:13 > 0:11:17dealt with. If you didn't deal with issues of bullying, can you tell us
0:11:17 > 0:11:22what issues were dealt with and how you dealt with them?Members
0:11:22 > 0:11:28understand that if I choose my words carefully or appear over locally in
0:11:28 > 0:11:33my answers, I am not being evasive, it is because these are important
0:11:33 > 0:11:39times. People are grieving, the last thing I want to do is make matters
0:11:39 > 0:11:44worse. But I understand these questions are scrutiny and I have no
0:11:44 > 0:11:47difficulty with that. We set out what my explanation is for the
0:11:47 > 0:11:55perceived discrepancies. I am aware of the comments that have been made
0:11:55 > 0:12:01in the press. All I can say about those comments is, in relation to
0:12:01 > 0:12:04them, no specific accusation of bullying was ever presented to me
0:12:04 > 0:12:08either formally or informally. Nor was that word bullying ever used in
0:12:08 > 0:12:12that way. But if you want me to be clear about what the issues were, I
0:12:12 > 0:12:15can say, people were sometimes unhappy with the way things
0:12:15 > 0:12:21happened, with their competing priorities, of course they were.
0:12:21 > 0:12:26People felt others were more favour? Of course they did. In politics it
0:12:26 > 0:12:30is felt more intensely than in other workplaces. People feel very
0:12:30 > 0:12:33passionately about what they believe in and that will be the situation.
0:12:33 > 0:12:38At the heart of our democracy is the notion of competition. There will
0:12:38 > 0:12:43always be tension and everyone in this chamber will recognise that. I
0:12:43 > 0:12:46will continue to deal with those dentures in as fairer way as
0:12:46 > 0:12:53possible and regardless of what political -- tensions in a
0:12:53 > 0:12:57straightaway as possible, regardless of what political side they come
0:12:57 > 0:13:04from. But my door is opened. If they prefer not to approach me, they can
0:13:04 > 0:13:11go to the secretary.First Minister, this was your opportunity to clarify
0:13:11 > 0:13:15this situation. It looks as though you've given two contradictory
0:13:15 > 0:13:18answers. You say no allegations were received but also that they were
0:13:18 > 0:13:23issues and that you did deal with them. I will ask you again, what
0:13:23 > 0:13:26were the issues that were raised with you and how did you deal with
0:13:26 > 0:13:33them?As I said, sometimes people were unhappy with the way things
0:13:33 > 0:13:37happened, people felt others were more favoured, but that happens in
0:13:37 > 0:13:41any organisation. I dealt with them as and when they arose. When you are
0:13:41 > 0:13:44dealing with the Cabinet, you have people who are very talented, they
0:13:44 > 0:13:48feel very strongly about what they are promoting, and it is impossible
0:13:48 > 0:13:53to reconcile these things when they arise. If you ask is it the case
0:13:53 > 0:13:57when cabinets are always harmonious when everyone agrees all the time,
0:13:57 > 0:14:00no, and it would be unrealistic to say otherwise.You are not answering
0:14:00 > 0:14:07the question. There were specific allegations about bullying which you
0:14:07 > 0:14:13have denied yet you have said that they were issues and you did deal
0:14:13 > 0:14:18with them. You haven't explained to us what those issues were. Or how
0:14:18 > 0:14:25they were dealt with. Or whether or not they were reports produced. Will
0:14:25 > 0:14:29you now give us the clarity which this Assembly deserves, explain to
0:14:29 > 0:14:35us what issues were raised with you back in 2014 and what exactly you
0:14:35 > 0:14:39did to deal with those issues? If they weren't issues of bullying,
0:14:39 > 0:14:43that's fair enough, what were they as Chamakh please be clarifying on
0:14:43 > 0:14:48this now.They were issues of competing priorities, of people
0:14:48 > 0:14:51feeling that some people were listened to more than others, people
0:14:51 > 0:14:58feeling that they want to see you as First Minister to explain their
0:14:58 > 0:15:02position. These are all the normal processes of Cabinet government. It
0:15:02 > 0:15:06would be very odd if any Cabinet was in place when nobody ever disagreed.
0:15:06 > 0:15:10It would be very odd if they Cabinet was in place where people were in a
0:15:10 > 0:15:15position where they didn't feel that they wanted to make their views
0:15:15 > 0:15:19known in a particular way. As First Minister, that is the way I have
0:15:19 > 0:15:23always dealt with government. We delivered all our manifesto promises
0:15:23 > 0:15:28in the years to 2016 and we are continuing to deliver that now.
0:15:28 > 0:15:32There are always tensions in any Cabinet. Surely any party leader
0:15:32 > 0:15:37will recognise that. What's important is that patients don't get
0:15:37 > 0:15:45in the way of good governance. -- tensions.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49I am grateful for the way you have engaged with the question so far
0:15:49 > 0:15:52this afternoon in contrast with the way you engaged last Wednesday with
0:15:52 > 0:15:56the question I put you in the topical questions. But there is this
0:15:56 > 0:16:00issue where there are two narrative is running here. There is the
0:16:00 > 0:16:03narrative that you acknowledge, and I was grateful for you acknowledge
0:16:03 > 0:16:07and that in First Minister's Questions last week, that you did
0:16:07 > 0:16:12have issues raised with you in November 2014 and you dealt with
0:16:12 > 0:16:15them. Then there was the issue of the written question that Darren
0:16:15 > 0:16:20Millar put down and the difference in the answer said there had not
0:16:20 > 0:16:25been any issues at that time. Can you understand how people can get
0:16:25 > 0:16:31confused by those two answers? Were issues of bullying raised
0:16:31 > 0:16:36specifically with you in October, November 2014, and did you deal with
0:16:36 > 0:16:48them?I will just repeat what I said to make it clear. I'm aware of
0:16:48 > 0:16:51comments that have been made in the press. No specific allegation of
0:16:51 > 0:16:56bullying was presented to me in relation to those comments, formally
0:16:56 > 0:17:00or informally. No evidence was given to me, nor was the word bullying
0:17:00 > 0:17:04used in that way. I can't go beyond that other than to reiterate what
0:17:04 > 0:17:10was said earlier.I still lack an understanding of how difficult it is
0:17:10 > 0:17:14to answer this question. I put it reasonably to you - were allegations
0:17:14 > 0:17:21of bullying put to you? That is the assertion that has been put by two
0:17:21 > 0:17:25senior figures from your government at the time and others. It is not
0:17:25 > 0:17:29unreasonable for us to ask the questions of youth is First
0:17:29 > 0:17:31Minister, because the accusations levelled at your office and your
0:17:31 > 0:17:38role as First Minister. Can you be crystal clear in confirming whether,
0:17:38 > 0:17:44and I appreciate you have the written notes in front of you, but
0:17:44 > 0:17:47most people would remember if specific allegations around bullying
0:17:47 > 0:17:54were put to them to be dealt with. I just want to be clear - were
0:17:54 > 0:17:58allegations related to bullying put to you in the time frame that has
0:17:58 > 0:18:02been identified by your former senior special adviser and your four
0:18:02 > 0:18:08former cabinet minister?There were no specific accusations of bullying.
0:18:08 > 0:18:18They were not presented to me. The word was not even used in that way.
0:18:18 > 0:18:25OK. There is going to be a motion next week put before the assembly to
0:18:25 > 0:18:27have an investigation into this. People will have listened to the
0:18:27 > 0:18:33answers you have given. I think the two options I gave you were
0:18:33 > 0:18:37straightforward yes or no answers. You chose not to give a yes or no
0:18:37 > 0:18:41answer. Is it the case that you will be supporting the motion that will
0:18:41 > 0:18:46come before the assembly next week to allow detailed scrutiny of this
0:18:46 > 0:18:49interest? There is huge particular interest in this matter. There are
0:18:49 > 0:18:55conflicting stories here. It is not unreasonable to want to get to the
0:18:55 > 0:19:00bottom of this and if we can't get to the bottom of it in this
0:19:00 > 0:19:06institution, then what is the point of this institution? First Minister,
0:19:06 > 0:19:08will you supporting the motion that comes before the assembly next
0:19:08 > 0:19:13Wednesday?There are a number of ways that this issue can be done
0:19:13 > 0:19:18with. We reserve our position in terms of the vote next week until we
0:19:18 > 0:19:23have studied carefully the breath of the terms of reference of that
0:19:23 > 0:19:30motion. Nevertheless, I accept that this is an issue that will need
0:19:30 > 0:19:35further scrutiny. I am not afraid of that scrutiny. It is a question of
0:19:35 > 0:19:38finding out what is the most effective way of that scrutiny being
0:19:38 > 0:19:46exercised.Leader of the Ukip group, Neil Hamilton.I hope the First
0:19:46 > 0:19:51Minister will feel that he owes the chamber a duty of candour on this
0:19:51 > 0:19:54issue, but we will clearly get no further on it today and will have to
0:19:54 > 0:19:57wait till the debate next week to make progress. I would like to turn
0:19:57 > 0:20:04to another issue. The First Minister said he would like to see air
0:20:04 > 0:20:07passenger duty devolves to Wales so that he could abolish it for long
0:20:07 > 0:20:12haul flights. I welcome the First Minister to the ranks of tax cutters
0:20:12 > 0:20:16and tax abolishes in the assembly. It makes a change from the other
0:20:16 > 0:20:22taxes that he wants to introduce. But this is of course a way of tax
0:20:22 > 0:20:26avoidance that he is in favour of, because it will give Welsh apples a
0:20:26 > 0:20:30small but significant advantage over airports on the other side of the
0:20:30 > 0:20:34border in England which will still have air passenger duty applying to
0:20:34 > 0:20:39them. So can the First Minister explained to me how it is that he
0:20:39 > 0:20:42can reconcile his views on air passenger duty with his other views
0:20:42 > 0:20:46that the tax system should not be used for tax competition within the
0:20:46 > 0:20:51UK or with other countries?Because there already is tax competition.
0:20:51 > 0:20:56Scotland already controls air passenger duty. There is an element
0:20:56 > 0:20:59of reduced our passenger duty in Northern Ireland. It makes no sense
0:20:59 > 0:21:04that Wales is denied the same advantages as those elsewhere in the
0:21:04 > 0:21:07UK. We have presented evidence to the UK Government that makes it
0:21:07 > 0:21:11clear that this is no threat to Bristol. This is about developing
0:21:11 > 0:21:15long haul flights from Cardiff. We believe Cardiff is in a good
0:21:15 > 0:21:24position to do that. And we want to develop other regional airports to
0:21:24 > 0:21:29link into Cardiff as a hub. The UK Government have dismissed that
0:21:29 > 0:21:34evidence without offering any evidence of their own.I hope the
0:21:34 > 0:21:36First Minister doesn't misunderstand me. I am in favour of what he
0:21:36 > 0:21:41proposes and I am in favour of the devolution of taxes to Wales so that
0:21:41 > 0:21:44we can cut them up or abolish them and give us an advantage over other
0:21:44 > 0:21:47parts of the United Kingdom to compensate for these Doric or
0:21:47 > 0:21:52disadvantage is that we have to fight against. -- to compensate for
0:21:52 > 0:22:00historical disadvantages. But I am interested in the inconsistencies in
0:22:00 > 0:22:04the Labour Party's position. The purpose of air passenger duty is was
0:22:04 > 0:22:07originally to cut greenhouse gas emissions, so abolishing it doesn't
0:22:07 > 0:22:11fit with the other enthusiasm is of the Labour Party in relation to the
0:22:11 > 0:22:16protection of the environment. How does the abolition of air passenger
0:22:16 > 0:22:20duty on long haul flights, how can it be reconciled with the Labour
0:22:20 > 0:22:26Party's views on green energy and the need to cut carbon emissions?It
0:22:26 > 0:22:31is simple. There are many people in the south-west of England who are
0:22:31 > 0:22:34travelling to Heathrow at Pleasant to fly long haul flights. If they
0:22:34 > 0:22:41travel a shorter distance, their carbon footprint is lower. It makes
0:22:41 > 0:22:44sense to put them in a position where they are not increasing their
0:22:44 > 0:22:48carbon footprint by giving them the option to fly closer to home.The
0:22:48 > 0:22:51First Minister knows that is pure sophistry. There is another aspect
0:22:51 > 0:22:55which is worth considering. He will have seen that Monsieur Barnier, in
0:22:55 > 0:23:01his latest pronouncement about Britain's future trading relations
0:23:01 > 0:23:06with Europe said a couple of days ago, there will be no ambitious
0:23:06 > 0:23:08partnership without fair competition, state aid and tax
0:23:08 > 0:23:15dumping. Of course, tax dumping is the way that French politicians
0:23:15 > 0:23:17referred to tax competition between nations and they are very much
0:23:17 > 0:23:21against it. The whole trend of the European Union is to harmonise taxes
0:23:21 > 0:23:23so that there is no possibility to do what the Irish have done in
0:23:23 > 0:23:27relation to corporation tax, giving them a significant benefit to their
0:23:27 > 0:23:34economy. Does the First Minister not see that leaving the EU does give us
0:23:34 > 0:23:42the freedoms that we in Wales could use to increase the output of the
0:23:42 > 0:23:44Welsh economy and provide the Welsh government with more money to
0:23:44 > 0:23:49provide the other good public services that we want?That is a
0:23:49 > 0:23:53naive approach, because as he knows, if we are looking to export to
0:23:53 > 0:23:56market and those markets feel that we have unfettered competition, they
0:23:56 > 0:24:00will impose tariffs against us. It is not as if the UK has a free hand
0:24:00 > 0:24:06in all this. The UK is a medium-sized country. It is not in a
0:24:06 > 0:24:10position to dictate terms of trade to others. I refer him to what Aston
0:24:10 > 0:24:14Martin said that we, that they hard Brexit would cause them to stop
0:24:14 > 0:24:18manufacturing cars. These are not my words, they are the words of a
0:24:18 > 0:24:21company which is a significant employer in Wales and I suspect we
0:24:21 > 0:24:25will see more of that, which is why we need to understand where the UK
0:24:25 > 0:24:29Government is, and we need to see their plan. We are not in a position
0:24:29 > 0:24:33where businesses can see that there is a way forward by the new year,
0:24:33 > 0:24:37and then I fear we will start seeing negative announcement as far as the
0:24:37 > 0:24:45economy of Britain is concerned. What action will be Welsh government
0:24:45 > 0:24:50take to increase the supply of new houses during the fifth assembly
0:24:50 > 0:24:53term?House-building in Wales is a priority for this government,
0:24:53 > 0:24:57reflected by our 20,000 affordable homes target. Statistics show an
0:24:57 > 0:25:00increasing trend in the number of new homes being completed, which we
0:25:00 > 0:25:09will continue to support with our successful programmes.Last year,
0:25:09 > 0:25:13the home builders Federation stated that poor planning and the higher
0:25:13 > 0:25:20cost associated with building homes in Wales has compromised investment.
0:25:20 > 0:25:26Now house-builders expressed concern that the lack of detail over the
0:25:26 > 0:25:32potential tax and vegan development land could further discourage
0:25:32 > 0:25:39investors from developing Wales. Does the First Minister agree that
0:25:39 > 0:25:42increasing the regulation on house-builders will not increase the
0:25:42 > 0:25:47supply of new homes that Wales desperately needs?If he is talking
0:25:47 > 0:25:51about the sprinklers, can I remind him that his own party didn't oppose
0:25:51 > 0:25:56the introduction of the sprinklers legislation. We always look to
0:25:56 > 0:26:01strike a balance between appropriate regulation... He was in a different
0:26:01 > 0:26:06party at the time, that is correct. So I have to revise the point I
0:26:06 > 0:26:12made. He supported the sprinklers regulation, I believe. We look to
0:26:12 > 0:26:14drag a balance between appropriate regulation when encouraging
0:26:14 > 0:26:18house-building. We have made sure we are not losing council houses
0:26:18 > 0:26:23through them being sold, to make sure they are kept in the public
0:26:23 > 0:26:25housing stock. We have made sure that there are options available for
0:26:25 > 0:26:30people to buy houses that they would not otherwise have. We have a good
0:26:30 > 0:26:37record on housing and we are on track to meet our target.It is
0:26:37 > 0:26:41important to address housing need, I would argue, more than housing
0:26:41 > 0:26:46demand. Housing need is the people on lowest incomes who are not
0:26:46 > 0:26:49recognised on the demand curve. Local development plans hopelessly
0:26:49 > 0:26:54failed to address housing need and instead deliver expensive executive
0:26:54 > 0:26:59accommodation in areas like Caerphilly in my constituency. They
0:26:59 > 0:27:03don't deliver affordable housing. Will the First Minister accept that
0:27:03 > 0:27:08more needs to be done to deliver affordable housing and work with
0:27:08 > 0:27:12local authorities and social landlords to deliver it in the
0:27:12 > 0:27:19northern reaches of communities that I represent, and recognise that LBPs
0:27:19 > 0:27:29are failing to do that?Well, LDPs have to be up-to-date. If a local
0:27:29 > 0:27:32authority has a development plan where the five-year housing supply
0:27:32 > 0:27:37is no longer relevant, it is important that there is a good
0:27:37 > 0:27:42development plan in place. But it is important to have a proper balance
0:27:42 > 0:27:46between houses and the availability of housing according to what people
0:27:46 > 0:27:54can afford. That is why local authorities can retain the money and
0:27:54 > 0:28:03build new council homes. We have the affordable housing grant, which
0:28:03 > 0:28:11looks to help people to buy or get accommodation that is affordable.
0:28:11 > 0:28:14And of course, making sure people don't become homeless in the first
0:28:14 > 0:28:22place. We have to be successful in that. But it is right that local
0:28:22 > 0:28:25authorities should be aware of the development plans and the need to
0:28:25 > 0:28:29secure the right balance of housing. It can't all be housing at one end
0:28:29 > 0:28:34of the market, that is true.I would like to make a statement on cyclist
0:28:34 > 0:28:42safety.We have allocated thousands of pounds to local authorities to
0:28:42 > 0:28:47deliver cycle training to 15,000 people. We are also working with the
0:28:47 > 0:28:49Department for Transport to review the national standards for cycle
0:28:49 > 0:28:56training over the next few months. It is road safety week this week,
0:28:56 > 0:29:00and we would commend all measures to promote road safety. We in south
0:29:00 > 0:29:04Wales also unfortunately have to reflect on two fatal accidents in
0:29:04 > 0:29:09October and we send our condolences to the families of the victims. I
0:29:09 > 0:29:12wonder if it is now time for a much more integrated and ambitious
0:29:12 > 0:29:17approach to these matters along the lines that we see in the
0:29:17 > 0:29:21Netherlands, Germany and Denmark, where you have 20 mile an hour zones
0:29:21 > 0:29:25in urban areas in much greater use, clear designation of off-road and on
0:29:25 > 0:29:32road bicycle paths, priority traffic signals in key places. We really
0:29:32 > 0:29:38need to have a joined up approach to this important matter.I agree. One
0:29:38 > 0:29:41of the incidents he refers to happened not long ago when I was
0:29:41 > 0:29:48travelling on the same road. I didn't see it. It is right to say
0:29:48 > 0:29:51that great care needs to be taken when cyclists and cars used the same
0:29:51 > 0:30:00road. Colours of course have the prime responsibility, to my mind, to
0:30:00 > 0:30:03consider the safety of cyclists -- cars have the prime responsibility.
0:30:03 > 0:30:09That said, if we are to encourage more people to cycle, there will
0:30:09 > 0:30:13always be people who are too nervous to cycle in traffic. There are some
0:30:13 > 0:30:17who are not, but others will say, I would like to recycle more, but I am
0:30:17 > 0:30:21not keen with mixing with cars on the road. That is why we need
0:30:21 > 0:30:28dedicated cycle lights. We have the active travel infrastructure and we
0:30:28 > 0:30:31are making funding available to local authorities
0:30:31 > 0:30:32are making funding available to local authorities. There as the
0:30:32 > 0:30:34active travel guidance to provide clear standards that the
0:30:34 > 0:30:38infrastructure must meet. We will be updating the guidance to incorporate
0:30:38 > 0:30:43best practice and the Cabinet Secretary will make announcements
0:30:43 > 0:30:49soon on the local transport fund for the coming financial year.
0:30:49 > 0:30:56Can he Rathbone.I am delighted that you mentioned the guidance because
0:30:56 > 0:31:02it has been lauded by the Welshman is a government -- Westminster
0:31:02 > 0:31:06government. We have got these excellent design guidance but what
0:31:06 > 0:31:10monitoring has the Welsh Government and of how much attention local
0:31:10 > 0:31:14authorities are paying to the design guidance when they are delivering
0:31:14 > 0:31:18the active travel bans that they need to deliver in order to address
0:31:18 > 0:31:21some of the issues that David Melding has raised around combating
0:31:21 > 0:31:26the levels of accidents that happen particularly at junctions.Local
0:31:26 > 0:31:30authorities must comply with the law but as part of the updating of the
0:31:30 > 0:31:38guidance that will take place, as part of that guidance, we will have
0:31:38 > 0:31:41an idea of what has been happening around Wales in order for the
0:31:41 > 0:31:46guidance to be strengthened. The member is absolutely right to say
0:31:46 > 0:31:49that we have the act in place but it is important that it is observed and
0:31:49 > 0:31:54there is still a great deal of scope in many of our city and town centres
0:31:54 > 0:31:58to do more when it comes to cycle lanes, particularly. That is
0:31:58 > 0:32:05something we will be considering. Gareth Bennett.There are issues of
0:32:05 > 0:32:11cyclist safety, as have been raised by the last two members, and we do
0:32:11 > 0:32:15need to make steps to encourage safe cycling. Unfortunately, when
0:32:15 > 0:32:20cyclists come off the road and onto the pavement, they can also become a
0:32:20 > 0:32:25danger to pedestrians. In Peterborough, the councils are
0:32:25 > 0:32:27currently issuing notices which are public space protection orders to
0:32:27 > 0:32:33stop dangerous cyclists. 1000 cyclists have been fined in three
0:32:33 > 0:32:38months. We do have powers to issue these orders in Wales as well.
0:32:38 > 0:32:42Should we encourage Welsh councils to use similar notices to tackle the
0:32:42 > 0:32:47growing problem of dangerous cycling?This is something I know
0:32:47 > 0:32:52the UK Government is considering. The current law dates back to the
0:32:52 > 0:32:54furious driving of horses and carts in Victorian times which has not
0:32:54 > 0:33:01been updated. I do get concerned. It is important for us to understand
0:33:01 > 0:33:06that just like most drivers, most cyclists are responsible cyclists
0:33:06 > 0:33:11who are well illuminated as well at night. But I have seen cyclists on
0:33:11 > 0:33:15pavements, I have seen people cycling at night with no lights and
0:33:15 > 0:33:18they are invisible practically. There is nothing on them that could
0:33:18 > 0:33:22identify them to cars. I think what is hugely important is that we
0:33:22 > 0:33:27continue to emphasise that for cyclists' own safety, it is
0:33:27 > 0:33:30important that they have lights on at night, they don't wear it
0:33:30 > 0:33:34entirely dark clothing so they cannot be seen, for their own safety
0:33:34 > 0:33:38and to enable cars to see them. But we are talking about a small
0:33:38 > 0:33:42minority of people. There is a duty on car drivers to consider the
0:33:42 > 0:33:46safety of cyclists but it is important as well that cyclists take
0:33:46 > 0:33:53steps to ensure that they can be seen.Mark Isherwood.How is the
0:33:53 > 0:33:56Welsh Government maximising the use of preventative services to help
0:33:56 > 0:34:00vulnerable groups in Wales? Prosperity for all sets out our
0:34:00 > 0:34:04commitment to strong and safe communities that protect and support
0:34:04 > 0:34:08the vulnerable. What we look to do is to tackle inequality and support
0:34:08 > 0:34:17vulnerable people.Housing related support funded through the
0:34:17 > 0:34:19supporting people programme and delivered through the housing
0:34:19 > 0:34:24associations and third sector bodies has been improving lives and saving
0:34:24 > 0:34:28significant sums for statutory sector providers, health boards,
0:34:28 > 0:34:33local authorities, for many years. In your deal on the draft Bridget
0:34:33 > 0:34:40with Plaid Cymru, you agreed you would ring fence the funding for two
0:34:40 > 0:34:44years, the £124 million, but a letter to a local authority Chief
0:34:44 > 0:34:46executives on the 24th of October revealed that seven local
0:34:46 > 0:34:52authorities will be given 100% spending flexibility and the other
0:34:52 > 0:34:5615 15% spending Flex ability across supporting people and for other
0:34:56 > 0:35:01non-housing related grants. How do you respond to concerns that this
0:35:01 > 0:35:07effectively removes the ring fence in 2018-19, meaning that supporting
0:35:07 > 0:35:12people funding is not guaranteed to be protected at these levels and the
0:35:12 > 0:35:16lack of existing budget line for supporting people gives no
0:35:16 > 0:35:22assurances that the funding will be protected in 2019-20.We expect
0:35:22 > 0:35:27local authorities to comply with the law and the housing Wales at says
0:35:27 > 0:35:32that local authorities have a duty to prevent homelessness and by and
0:35:32 > 0:35:36large they have performed well in lamenting that legislation. Progress
0:35:36 > 0:35:39has not been as consistent as we would like and we will continue to
0:35:39 > 0:35:47monitor progress to make sure that some progress continues in the
0:35:47 > 0:36:00future.Can I also support the importance of preventative services
0:36:00 > 0:36:07but across all of our public services. For example, in one local
0:36:07 > 0:36:11health board they have been piloting free health checks for the over 50s
0:36:11 > 0:36:15and as a result they are picking up early signals of health problems
0:36:15 > 0:36:20that allows for cost inventive preventative actions. Will the First
0:36:20 > 0:36:24Minister agreed that this type of work is vital to improving our
0:36:24 > 0:36:27health and wider public services as well as ensuring the most effective
0:36:27 > 0:36:33youth of public funds?It is hugely important we are able to do that. I
0:36:33 > 0:36:38hear from the Conservative benches that is not enough but after several
0:36:38 > 0:36:43years of austerity they are no position to criticise. If they are
0:36:43 > 0:36:46so concerned about increasing funding in every single area,
0:36:46 > 0:36:49perhaps they could prevail on their colleagues in the UK Government to
0:36:49 > 0:36:54provide more money or to provide the £1.67 billion equivalent that
0:36:54 > 0:36:57Northern Ireland has had. They are in no position to complain given
0:36:57 > 0:37:04they are so ineffective at lobbying their own colleagues in Westminster.
0:37:04 > 0:37:07Will the First Minister make a statement on the Welsh Government's
0:37:07 > 0:37:11International policy.The focus of our international work is to create
0:37:11 > 0:37:20a more prosperous and sustainable Wales.He is aware of my view that
0:37:20 > 0:37:24there needs to be a new competitive international policy for Wales that
0:37:24 > 0:37:27income is everything from trade to international development and I
0:37:27 > 0:37:29believe that there are many lessons we can learn from other substate
0:37:29 > 0:37:34nations. I know he is reluctant to do so at the moment because of the
0:37:34 > 0:37:40ongoing uncertainty around our separation from the European Union
0:37:40 > 0:37:44but doesn't he agreed that as a first step to a new copper rancid
0:37:44 > 0:37:47international policy for Wales we need to ascertain our country's
0:37:47 > 0:38:02global reputation. -- a new all-encompassing international
0:38:02 > 0:38:07policy. Will the First Minister to see Wales included on the global
0:38:07 > 0:38:11brand indexed so that we have a first step in to ascertaining our
0:38:11 > 0:38:19global reputation that could then inform the future policy of our
0:38:19 > 0:38:23country.We are not waiting to see what happens with Brexit Indians of
0:38:23 > 0:38:27developing our international policy. We know we need to increase our
0:38:27 > 0:38:31staff presence abroad, working with the UK Government to ensure that we
0:38:31 > 0:38:35can work with them. But I know that we will need to increase our
0:38:35 > 0:38:39presence in different countries around the world and that work is
0:38:39 > 0:38:42ongoing. I hope to be in a position to make an announcement about that
0:38:42 > 0:38:49in the very near future. Regarding the brands index, we have taken part
0:38:49 > 0:38:55in that survey in the past. It is expensive. The question was, what
0:38:55 > 0:39:01does it deliver for us? What I will do is write to the member with more
0:39:01 > 0:39:05details to inform you of the reasoning of that decision in order
0:39:05 > 0:39:08for him to understand why that decision was taken and whether there
0:39:08 > 0:39:13is scope to look at rejoining the index at some point in the future.
0:39:13 > 0:39:21Russell George.I have just heard your previous response. Do you agree
0:39:21 > 0:39:26with me that we ought to be looking at appointing trade envoys to boost
0:39:26 > 0:39:32exports to countries outside of the EU and that will of course raise
0:39:32 > 0:39:37Wales' commercial presence and international profile.We look to
0:39:37 > 0:39:41trade with any country we can around the world within reason. But the
0:39:41 > 0:39:46reality is that most effective market is the European single market
0:39:46 > 0:39:49and that can't be replaced overnight. We constantly expect to
0:39:49 > 0:39:53export dairy produce to the US because of the issues that exist
0:39:53 > 0:39:58there, nor should we try and ignore our biggest market which is on our
0:39:58 > 0:40:02doorstep. But it doesn't mean we are not proactive in developing markets
0:40:02 > 0:40:06elsewhere. The Middle East is one example. The very fact that working
0:40:06 > 0:40:10with the airport we have established a link to the Ohio from next year,
0:40:10 > 0:40:15the fact that we have been working to gain investment from Middle
0:40:15 > 0:40:22Eastern countries, we have a situation where Welsh lamb is the
0:40:22 > 0:40:26market leader in the United Arab Emirates, something that I and the
0:40:26 > 0:40:30Presiding Officer would fall for that to happen. It is not the case
0:40:30 > 0:40:34that we only focus on Europe but Europe is our most important market
0:40:34 > 0:40:37by far. It is not realistic to think it can be replaced by anything else
0:40:37 > 0:40:44in the short term.Vikki Howells. How is the Welsh Government
0:40:44 > 0:40:47prioritising support for mental health services in the name two
0:40:47 > 0:40:53during this Assembly term?It is one of five priorities specifically
0:40:53 > 0:40:58included in Prosperity for All. We have provided an additional £40
0:40:58 > 0:41:02million for mental health services over the next two years. I am really
0:41:02 > 0:41:16glad that quoting deliberate --... We have the highest percentage of
0:41:16 > 0:41:23people taking antidepressant medication. I recently met with an
0:41:23 > 0:41:26organisation that I have been championing since I was elected as
0:41:26 > 0:41:33Assembly Member for name two and they are carrying out a pilot based
0:41:33 > 0:41:35on offering alternatives to medication but they are concerned
0:41:35 > 0:41:39that funding for the project will not be carried forward. Can the
0:41:39 > 0:41:42Welsh Government commit to continue funding for this project for an
0:41:42 > 0:41:45adequate period to enable it to promote a non-medication
0:41:45 > 0:41:52alternatives. I can say that I do understand that the health board is
0:41:52 > 0:41:58working collaboratively with the programme and my officials are in
0:41:58 > 0:42:02discussions with the health board over its ongoing work with the
0:42:02 > 0:42:08programme. I hope that a resolution can be achieved soon.David Melding.
0:42:08 > 0:42:13I was very pleased to hear that Health Secretary, Cabinet Secretary
0:42:13 > 0:42:18and Education Secretary announced additional investment for services
0:42:18 > 0:42:22in schools. I hope we will see some of this benefit in places like
0:42:22 > 0:42:30Aberdare.Every secondary school has a school counsellor but there is a
0:42:30 > 0:42:35reluctance among some to go and see that counsellor for fear that others
0:42:35 > 0:42:40will find out. I think that is an issue that... I am aware that that
0:42:40 > 0:42:48is an issue. So being able to extend the reach of services beyond its
0:42:48 > 0:42:54traditional areas to do preventative work is hugely important. Given the
0:42:54 > 0:42:58pressures that teenagers are under, when I was a teenager, what I
0:42:58 > 0:43:02happened at school didn't follow you at night to your home, but it does
0:43:02 > 0:43:07now. I have seen it. The stuff on social media. That is why it is so
0:43:07 > 0:43:12important that we have a system in place which is needed to provide
0:43:12 > 0:43:19teenagers with support in school and outside.Will the First Minister
0:43:19 > 0:43:23make a statement on local development plans in North Wales?
0:43:23 > 0:43:28There are five local development plans that have been adopted in
0:43:28 > 0:43:32North Wales and we expect two other authorities, Wrexham and Flintshire,
0:43:32 > 0:43:38to adopt their plans by the year 2020.It is five years since the
0:43:38 > 0:43:44planning Inspectorate insisted that, or rather rejected Wrexham's bid and
0:43:44 > 0:43:50told Denbighshire and Connolly that they weren't sufficient housing in
0:43:50 > 0:43:54their development plans. That decision was based on the population
0:43:54 > 0:43:58forecasts of the government but now, of course, the sensors has
0:43:58 > 0:44:04demonstrated that those projections were erroneous and that we didn't
0:44:04 > 0:44:08need to increase the number of houses in those plans. The original
0:44:08 > 0:44:12LDP was quite close to the mark in terms of the numbers but the cost of
0:44:12 > 0:44:19having to redo the LDP in Wrexham alone has been over £200,000. So who
0:44:19 > 0:44:22in your view should be compensating Wrexham Council for that process for
0:44:22 > 0:44:30forcing them to return and rerun a process that was clearly
0:44:30 > 0:44:35unnecessary, a complete waste of time.Well, there is a process
0:44:35 > 0:44:40which, according to the law, has to be followed. If I remember rightly
0:44:40 > 0:44:43it is possible for local authorities to bring their own figures forward
0:44:43 > 0:44:49as regards to housing. If they believe the target they have been
0:44:49 > 0:44:55set by Welsh Government is inaccurate. I believe that is still
0:44:55 > 0:45:00true now. But Wrexham is in a position, if I understand the
0:45:00 > 0:45:09situation properly, where they are targeting 2019 for the adoption of
0:45:09 > 0:45:16that plan. It is important that they do adopt the plans.We have got
0:45:16 > 0:45:21issues in Aberconwy now as a result of your government's policy as
0:45:21 > 0:45:25regards to this, where planning officers are actually interpreting
0:45:25 > 0:45:32that it has much stronger weightings than any other of the tans. It is
0:45:32 > 0:45:36not even in our LDP, some of the land, and it is making a mockery of
0:45:36 > 0:45:41the town council depositing its money with the Welsh Government.
0:45:41 > 0:45:44Will you look at this because it really is impacting on our few
0:45:44 > 0:45:51remaining greenfield sites. Frankly, developers are looking to be able to
0:45:51 > 0:45:55land bank, to the detriment of our local communities. We haven't got
0:45:55 > 0:46:00the health services or the education facilities. The whole thing is a
0:46:00 > 0:46:05fiasco and I would ask you, as your responsibility as First Minister, to
0:46:05 > 0:46:13really look at this and provide this chamber with some ways forward.Tan
0:46:13 > 0:46:16one is being looked at the moment. These are matters largely for the
0:46:16 > 0:46:27council.Tell your planning Inspectorate that.The council isn't
0:46:27 > 0:46:31obliged to give planning permission. They have to take responsibility
0:46:31 > 0:46:35themselves for the decision they take. However, she did mention tan
0:46:35 > 0:46:39one and the Minister informs me that it is being examined at the moment.
0:46:39 > 0:46:46Paul Davies.Will the Minister outline what the Welsh Government is
0:46:46 > 0:46:54doing to support the agriculture industry in Pembrokeshire? For
0:46:54 > 0:47:02example, thousands of people in temperature are signed up to Farming
0:47:02 > 0:47:05Commence -- Farming Connect to learn more about the environmental
0:47:05 > 0:47:09performance of their businesses. We would still urge the United Kingdom
0:47:09 > 0:47:13government to make sure they will not be any barriers to the ability
0:47:13 > 0:47:18of the farmers of Pembridge and selling in the single market.One
0:47:18 > 0:47:24way to support the agriculture industry in temperature is not to...
0:47:24 > 0:47:28Given the negative impact that such a quality could have on the
0:47:28 > 0:47:33agriculture industry, can you give us an update on Welsh Government
0:47:33 > 0:47:37plans for nitrate vulnerable zones in Wales and can you confirm that a
0:47:37 > 0:47:41statement on this issue will be made to this chamber and when will that
0:47:41 > 0:47:55happen?There were very many representations made. Over 2500.
0:47:55 > 0:48:01Sorry, over 250. I apologise. They are very detailed and a summary of
0:48:01 > 0:48:09all those will be published. The review of this is statutory under
0:48:09 > 0:48:16the nitrates directive. Of course, that has to be considered in the
0:48:16 > 0:48:20context of pollution as well so striking the balance is what's vital
0:48:20 > 0:48:26here and we must ensure that everything that is done ensures that
0:48:26 > 0:48:31we do strike that balance between reducing pollution and of course
0:48:31 > 0:48:40ensuring that any changes are not excessive.Simon Thomas.Your
0:48:40 > 0:48:44Cabinet Secretary for finance and local government told the external
0:48:44 > 0:48:51affairs committee yesterday that you were close to agreeing a framework
0:48:51 > 0:48:55for agriculture as we exit the European Union. Farmers in
0:48:55 > 0:48:58temperature and elsewhere will be very interested in understanding
0:48:58 > 0:49:03what that framework is and what that agreement entails. When will we hear
0:49:03 > 0:49:09those details rather than just rumours in the committee?Well, once
0:49:09 > 0:49:13the framework is in place, I will announce it to the Assembly. It is
0:49:13 > 0:49:17no secret what our position as a government is, namely that the
0:49:17 > 0:49:23powers should come to the rightful place, namely disassembly. And,
0:49:23 > 0:49:28secondly, nothing should change without an agreement to change. And,
0:49:28 > 0:49:32thirdly, we must ensure the same amount of money is available to make
0:49:32 > 0:49:35the payments as at present is and they should be made to the Welsh
0:49:35 > 0:49:40Government in the same way as at present. It would not be right if
0:49:40 > 0:49:44those payments came through the Barnett Formula. It would be a huge
0:49:44 > 0:49:48cut to the budget. That is the stance we have taken and that is the
0:49:48 > 0:49:52stars that has steered us through these discussions.Thank you, First
0:49:52 > 0:49:54Minister.
0:49:54 > 0:49:56There we are, that was First Minister's Questions.
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