:00:27. > :00:31.Hello and welcome to the programme coming up: the markets seem to like
:00:31. > :00:35.the latest plan to save the euro that is it time for the UK to bail
:00:35. > :00:39.out altogether? Does the supermarket giant think
:00:39. > :00:45.our politicians are idiots? No comment!
:00:45. > :00:51.And how many -- Mary McAleese's presidency has made far unlikely
:00:51. > :00:55.bedfellows. She has made it so easy for people like myself to make the
:00:55. > :00:59.transition from what we used to be to what we are and what we need to
:00:59. > :01:02.be forced to David Cameron play down this week's rebellion by 81
:01:02. > :01:07.Tories in the Commons boy on the referendum on Britain's membership
:01:07. > :01:17.of the year. But the current instability in the euro-zone is
:01:17. > :01:21.likely to keep this issue alive in the future. The DUP's MPs...
:01:21. > :01:25.At Jeffrey Donaldson, the Chancellor says solving the euro
:01:25. > :01:30.crisis would be the biggest boost for the British economy. In those
:01:30. > :01:35.circumstances, talk of a referendum is an irrelevant distraction?
:01:35. > :01:39.will cost us a huge amount of money to solve this problem that the
:01:39. > :01:43.Chancellor talks about. The agreement last night means doubling
:01:43. > :01:49.the amount of the bail-out. Chancellor says there will be no
:01:49. > :01:54.direct input from Britain on that. Then why is he worried? Why is this
:01:54. > :01:59.a crisis if this does not affect Britain? These are issues the
:01:59. > :02:06.people of the United Kingdom are entitled finally to have a say on.
:02:06. > :02:10.I have never, I have been an elected politician for a number of
:02:10. > :02:16.years, I have never been given the opportunity to vote on our
:02:16. > :02:20.membership and the nature of our membership on the EU. I have
:02:20. > :02:24.watched as other European nations have had referendums on variant
:02:24. > :02:29.aspects of their membership of the EU and yet the people of the UK
:02:29. > :02:35.have been denied that opportunity. Isn't the time of crisis not the
:02:35. > :02:39.time to do it? If they want to wait until the new year, fine but it is
:02:39. > :02:43.the principle we need to agree on. Many of the main parties in
:02:43. > :02:47.Westminster went to the people in the general election and promised
:02:47. > :02:52.they would get a referendum. They have broken that promise and at
:02:52. > :02:58.least there were 111 MPs prepared to stand up and say the British
:02:58. > :03:02.people should have a say. If the pro EU spokespersons are so
:03:02. > :03:07.confident in their argument, then why are they afraid of taking that
:03:07. > :03:11.case to the people? It is a long time since people were allowed a
:03:11. > :03:16.say. Why not have it again? This Parliament has passed legislation,
:03:16. > :03:24.which means if there is any European treaty which sees more
:03:24. > :03:28.power shift anywhere, there will be a referendum in the UK. That is
:03:28. > :03:32.already there in legislation. But let's remember what the
:03:32. > :03:39.circumstances are. There is a huge crisis going on in the euro-zone.
:03:39. > :03:44.It is clear that any new bail-out will not involve funding from the
:03:44. > :03:48.UK Exchequer, but the fact is the economic crisis in the euro-zone is
:03:48. > :03:54.causing problems not just in the wider European economy but in the
:03:54. > :03:58.world economy as well and it is affecting us in a very direct way.
:03:58. > :04:04.Even for some of the measures that have been taken in the southern
:04:04. > :04:08.countries are affecting firms here. I have firms in this constituency
:04:08. > :04:11.that are involved and as orders dried up because of shortage of
:04:11. > :04:17.public expenditure in other parts of Europe, that is affecting jobs
:04:17. > :04:21.and orders here. That is the same elsewhere. Just adding to all of
:04:21. > :04:27.the uncertainty of people taking the current difficulties as an
:04:27. > :04:33.excuse of having another go on the Euro-sceptic agenda 1 not create
:04:33. > :04:36.economic certainty we need. We will see there will be eventually and a
:04:36. > :04:42.referendum in the UK because there is an act that will make that
:04:42. > :04:47.happen. You mention the EU bill but doesn't it allow the government to
:04:47. > :04:52.decide when the circumstances, when transfer of power is affected, the
:04:52. > :04:57.government will decide whether that would trigger a referendum?
:04:57. > :05:01.just the government. People can argue about where a transparent --
:05:01. > :05:05.transfer of power takes place, we can probably see a referendum
:05:05. > :05:10.taking place whenever the deal is done to sort out whatever new
:05:10. > :05:14.fiscal structures are put in place in relation to the Euros said.
:05:14. > :05:18.You'll see the UK government using that as an opportunity to do
:05:18. > :05:23.something they can present as repatriating powers, if they do
:05:23. > :05:28.that, they will seek a referendum in that context as well. Do you
:05:28. > :05:33.think it is right they should be a referendum? Do you accept that
:05:33. > :05:37.notion? I have no objection in principle but it is important when
:05:37. > :05:42.a referendum takes place that people know the circumstances and
:05:42. > :05:47.people know the choices. The fact of a referendum itself does not
:05:47. > :05:52.create all sorts of economic risks. The problem is we have a proposal
:05:52. > :05:58.for a referendum that requires three options put in front of
:05:58. > :06:02.people. I am not sure in the current circumstances how well
:06:02. > :06:06.people will take to dealing with voting between three different
:06:06. > :06:10.options, particularly where they do not know where anybody else has
:06:10. > :06:15.agreed on some of those options. It is different to have a vote when
:06:15. > :06:20.you're talking about a treaty that has been agreed. You know then what
:06:20. > :06:25.the choices are, but to a Greek on options that no one else has voted
:06:25. > :06:31.for is a bit of a challenge for voters. Do you think a referendum
:06:31. > :06:35.should ask the question if Britain should pull out of the EU? Would
:06:35. > :06:40.you like to see a calling back of powers to the sovereign government
:06:40. > :06:46.of the United Kingdom? The motion put before Parliament this week
:06:46. > :06:49.offered three options. One is to remain in the EU unchanged. The
:06:49. > :06:53.second was to renegotiate the terms of our membership along the lines
:06:53. > :06:57.you have suggested and the third was to pull out of the European
:06:57. > :07:01.Union. People would be given a clear choice and actually, when you
:07:01. > :07:05.look at the polls, consistently they say that is what people want.
:07:06. > :07:09.They want to have a say on their future relationship with the
:07:09. > :07:14.European Union and I think this would have given the government a
:07:14. > :07:19.clear mandate to go and negotiate on whatever basis the referendum
:07:20. > :07:24.results suggests. We are in this economic crisis, so much of our
:07:24. > :07:29.trade is with the EU, that will not change whether or not we are part
:07:29. > :07:36.of the EU. In terms of economic arguments, it does not matter if we
:07:36. > :07:40.are in or out. The EU cost us money and jobs. The amount of regulation
:07:40. > :07:45.that is proposed by Brussels. One of the big issues of business is
:07:45. > :07:51.the amount of red tape that is handed down by Brussels. It gets in
:07:51. > :07:55.the wake of trade. If you take a country like Norway, it has a good
:07:55. > :07:59.trading relationship with the EU. It is not bother down with all the
:07:59. > :08:05.bureaucracy that comes with membership. There were powerful
:08:05. > :08:10.economic arguments for Britain to consider the option of leaving the
:08:10. > :08:13.EU as one possible way forward. When you look at the mess the EU is
:08:13. > :08:19.in at the moment, who could blame people for thinking that is an
:08:19. > :08:24.option. Which way would you vote, Mark? I would not vote we leave the
:08:24. > :08:30.EU. We will see a vote in a few years' time. That will see a
:08:30. > :08:35.rebalancing of competence of powers of functions between national
:08:35. > :08:45.parliaments and governments and the EU. I think that is sensible. Many
:08:45. > :08:51.
:08:51. > :08:55.thought that would happen a few years ago, there does need to be a
:08:55. > :09:00.tidying up and a realignment on quite a number of issues and that
:09:00. > :09:03.is one of the lessons for Europe and the Eurocrats. Let's go back to
:09:03. > :09:08.what Geoffrey was talking about when he said the option in the
:09:08. > :09:13.referendum was for three different options. What with the referendum
:09:13. > :09:20.the side? Will it be first past the post? Maybe you do not have a
:09:20. > :09:25.majority for leaving the EU. Or what if the biggest number of
:09:25. > :09:34.people just voted for keeping the EU as it was, but even combined
:09:34. > :09:38.more people had voted to leave the EU? That is when you can count the
:09:38. > :09:45.uncertainty. You are better to have a referendum in circumstances when
:09:45. > :09:50.people know what has been agreed in Europe. When we are not dealing
:09:50. > :09:54.with the sort of rating crisis that is there in the euro-zone at the
:09:54. > :09:58.minute. The idea of compounding that uncertainty with opportunistic
:09:58. > :10:03.moves by some of the Right in Britain would be a nonsense and it
:10:03. > :10:09.would do damage not just to the euro-zone and there are, next, but
:10:09. > :10:14.do damage to the European economy and a vulnerable region like ours.
:10:14. > :10:19.At event David Cameron said it was about timing and that he'd is why
:10:19. > :10:23.he wanted to make it clear why we would not have a referendum.
:10:23. > :10:29.kind of referendum that I think Mark and David Cameron are talking
:10:29. > :10:35.about is different from the when I am talking about. We may well get a
:10:35. > :10:40.referendum on some kind of agreement that is concocted by the
:10:40. > :10:44.members of the EU. It for not asked the principal question - do you
:10:44. > :10:48.wish to remain in the European Union? It will say it are you in
:10:48. > :10:52.favour or against this new agreement that we have got? That is
:10:52. > :10:57.different from asking people on the principle of whether they want to
:10:57. > :11:03.be in the EU that is why we believe they should be given the option.
:11:03. > :11:06.It isn't called a "sound bite" for nothing! As every politician knows,
:11:06. > :11:10.that catchy turn of phrase, which sounded so good at the time, can
:11:10. > :11:14.turn round and bite you! And for Gerry Adams that old line about the
:11:14. > :11:18.IRA, "They haven't gone away, you know!" Has long outlived its value
:11:18. > :11:23.and become instead an inconvenient truth! For Republicans, things have
:11:23. > :11:25.moved on. The armed struggle is over, Sinn Fein is now a major
:11:25. > :11:28.political party with important jobs in government, and their leaders
:11:28. > :11:31.are making strenuous efforts to put that shadowy past behind them and
:11:31. > :11:37.move into the sunlit uplands of Armani suits, respectability and
:11:37. > :11:39.general acceptance. Gerry has reinvented himself as an
:11:39. > :11:42.international peace consultant and now delivers lectures on
:11:42. > :11:45.peacemaking. Yet for ambitious Republicans trying to make their
:11:45. > :11:51.way in this post 9/11 world, the IRA's violent history is both a
:11:52. > :11:57.hindrance and an embarrassment. Furthermore, it has also proven
:11:57. > :12:00.itself to be stubbornly resistant to every attempt to bury it! Like
:12:00. > :12:05.the un-dead in a Hammer Horror movie the IRA's bloody past keeps
:12:05. > :12:07.popping up! It popped up again this week with the death of Colonel
:12:07. > :12:12.Gaddafi - murderer, torturer, Lockerbie-bomber and supplier of
:12:12. > :12:15.arms to the IRA. To have the world, and especially America, reminded of
:12:15. > :12:20.the odious company they once kept, does nothing to promote the new
:12:20. > :12:23.image-conscious movement that is modern Republicanism. An image-
:12:23. > :12:27.conscious and modern movement, is not a term that naturally comes to
:12:27. > :12:30.mind when one thinks of the Orange Order. The decision by a Belfast
:12:30. > :12:32.Lodge to make a formal complaint against Unionist Party leader Tom
:12:32. > :12:35.Elliott and Regional Development Minister, Danny Kennedy for
:12:35. > :12:37.attending the funeral service of a murdered police officer, on the
:12:37. > :12:45.grounds that he was a Catholic, displays a lack of awareness
:12:45. > :12:48.bordering on the comatose. Both men were cleared at a later hearing but
:12:48. > :12:52.the Order must be aware of the damage already done to the Order's
:12:52. > :12:54.image and the ammunition it gives to those who accuse it of blatant
:12:54. > :12:57.anti-catholic bigotry! "Blatant bullying", is how Sammy Wilson
:12:57. > :13:02.describes Tesco's response to his proposed increase in business rates
:13:02. > :13:06.for larger stores. His plan would raise an extra �85,000 per store
:13:06. > :13:10.which he intends to pass on to smaller businesses in the form of a
:13:10. > :13:13.rates reduction. However, Tesco's have responded by hinting that a
:13:13. > :13:15.unilateral decision by the Northern Ireland Assembly to hike up their
:13:15. > :13:18.rates might jeopardise Tesco's plans for any future multi million
:13:18. > :13:25.pound developments in the Province - a veiled threat which has the
:13:25. > :13:32.Finance Minister hopping mad. "They must take us for idiots," says
:13:32. > :13:36.Sammy. Tesco are saying nothing! Good night.
:13:36. > :13:40.The thoughts of Lindsey and there. It is generally agreed that whoever
:13:40. > :13:45.tops the poll in today's presidential election will have a
:13:45. > :13:49.hard act to follow. Mary McAleese's two terms as president has seen
:13:49. > :13:53.remarkable shifts and the relationships on this island and
:13:53. > :13:59.there are many who would say she was the driver in that change. In
:13:59. > :14:05.this special report, Declan dawn assesses the McAleese years in Aras
:14:05. > :14:12.an Uachtarain. An unlikely cheering in an
:14:12. > :14:19.improbable place. Four an unexpected fan. Welcome to
:14:19. > :14:22.President Mary McAleese's 12th July garden party. This take on the sash
:14:22. > :14:27.by the National Symphony Orchestra was probably more polished than
:14:27. > :14:33.most versions played north of the border that day. But then this is a
:14:33. > :14:36.polished gathering. 14 years into her presidency, this annual
:14:36. > :14:41.mingling of the Irish establishment with Unionists, loyalists and
:14:41. > :14:45.British officials has become a central feature of Mary McAleese's
:14:45. > :14:49.mission to build bridges. But once upon a time, the very notion of
:14:49. > :14:56.bringing these people to this place on this day I would have been
:14:56. > :15:03.unthinkable. She has not only build bridges, she has persuaded people
:15:03. > :15:08.to walk across them. That is what is going on here. It is in fact an
:15:09. > :15:13.extraordinary achievement. It is the culmination of years of work.
:15:13. > :15:16.She sat at this store in the early days and said she would be a
:15:16. > :15:22.President of reconciliation and she has certainly shown that and she
:15:22. > :15:26.has certainly reached out before -- beyond any of us envisaged. At the
:15:26. > :15:32.very beginning, our first off of July, I remember people coming here
:15:32. > :15:38.who were so grateful that they did but never went across the border in
:15:38. > :15:42.their lives. Not knowing what to expect but willing to make that act
:15:42. > :15:48.and faith in us. Coming here and building up relationships that are
:15:48. > :15:53.now the most important friendships we have in our lives. None the
:15:53. > :15:58.verse and in less in terms of our politics but incredibly enriched by
:15:58. > :16:02.having each other to call France. When Mary McAleese set out to
:16:02. > :16:08.become the republic's aids present 14 years ago, have background was
:16:08. > :16:15.the biggest obstacle. She was a child of the Troubles. Her family
:16:16. > :16:20.home in north Belfast had been burnt out. In 1997 before the Good
:16:20. > :16:25.Friday Agreement some feared that as a northern nationalist she would
:16:26. > :16:34.be a tribal and divisive figure. My concern was that she would be a
:16:34. > :16:38.stalking horse for Sinn Fein. That she was she was a northern Catholic
:16:38. > :16:44.talking in the agreed terms of the northern Catholic. But it seemed
:16:44. > :16:48.from the very outset of her presidency, Mary McAleese set-up
:16:48. > :16:58.turning expectations on her head. Within days of being elected, she
:16:58. > :17:14.
:17:14. > :17:18.to come in after President service. Those tones have gone, when she
:17:18. > :17:28.speaks from her heart, it is astonishing. She will convert
:17:28. > :17:30.
:17:30. > :17:33.enemies. I think of myself as an admirer. Much of what she did was
:17:33. > :17:43.new territory for the Irish president. But Mary McAleese had
:17:43. > :17:44.
:17:45. > :17:48.only started to build bridges. Four months ago, East Belfast. Once upon
:17:48. > :17:54.a time, and Irish President and especially this one would have been
:17:54. > :17:58.unwelcome almost in any loyalist area in Northern Ireland. But a
:17:58. > :18:04.mark of this presidency is that at times, the unthinkable has become
:18:04. > :18:09.ordinary. Not that there have been no slip-ups. In 2005, during a
:18:09. > :18:15.visit to Auschwitz, President back police angered Unionists by
:18:15. > :18:20.comparing Northern Ireland to Nazi Germany. They gave to their
:18:20. > :18:22.children an irrational hatred of Jews. In the same way that people
:18:22. > :18:29.in Northern Ireland transmit to their children that irrational
:18:29. > :18:36.hatred of Catholics. They it was completely wrong, what she said. It
:18:36. > :18:42.was a really hurtful, unfair and incorrect comparison to make. She
:18:42. > :18:48.did apologise quickly. But it was there. And you cannot take back
:18:48. > :18:53.spoken words. Then, she and her husband engaged in one of their
:18:53. > :18:57.riskiest moves ever. They began meeting directly with loyalist
:18:57. > :19:03.paramilitary leaders. It was an initiative that pushed at the
:19:03. > :19:06.boundaries of what the Irish presidency is meant to be. Although
:19:06. > :19:10.he has no official constitutional role, Martin McAlees became
:19:10. > :19:14.something like his wife's ambassador to loyalism. Engaging
:19:14. > :19:21.with leaders on the golf course and retain the on the streets of
:19:21. > :19:29.Belfast. Going out and playing golf with former terrorists in the K
:19:29. > :19:36.Club has built bridges. Has it made some people slightly disquiet?
:19:36. > :19:41.is an unelected person and he has been given state resources and
:19:41. > :19:47.state pressings to do this job, which ready, nobody knew any
:19:47. > :19:51.details about. It was done privately and we're very lucky and
:19:51. > :19:57.it is testament to him that it all turned out very well in the end. It
:19:57. > :20:01.was a huge risk. But the risk paid off. When people would not speak to
:20:01. > :20:10.us, Mary and Martin went ahead and introduced us to the Taoiseach at
:20:10. > :20:13.the time. It opened so many doors. They will always be my friends.
:20:13. > :20:23.the same time, Mary McAleese was forging another important
:20:23. > :20:32.
:20:32. > :20:39.relationship. One that would as illicit another unlikely moment.
:20:39. > :20:43.SHE SPEAKS IN IRISH. To speak those words in the Gaelic tongue was
:20:43. > :20:47.significant. Her comments, here in this very building in Dublin Castle,
:20:47. > :20:53.the seat of British power and influence in Ireland for hundreds
:20:53. > :20:57.of years, when she closed that circle of history. The Queen's
:20:57. > :21:00.visit in June, the first by a British monarch since the Republic
:21:00. > :21:07.achieved independence, was a crowning achievement of her
:21:08. > :21:11.presidency. Her tireless devotion to not just the South but also,
:21:11. > :21:16.east, west and relations between Britain and Ireland, was very much
:21:16. > :21:20.on show during those four days. scene to get on well personally?
:21:20. > :21:24.They do. And that is a friendship that has been built up over years
:21:24. > :21:30.because it has the shared interests that they have been building
:21:30. > :21:35.relations between the countries. Not least to help Northern Ireland.
:21:35. > :21:40.What was amazing was that they sob that this was no threat to
:21:40. > :21:45.Irishness, no threat to the integrity or their identity. So,
:21:45. > :21:50.Ireland grew up in a very big way during those three days. They were
:21:50. > :21:54.magnificent days, really magnificent. Everyone felt
:21:54. > :22:02.apprehensive that things would go wrong. And then they just grew
:22:02. > :22:07.proud. South Lebanon. Mary McAleese's last overseas trip as
:22:07. > :22:15.President and she is here to meet Irish peace keeping troops. In 1987,
:22:15. > :22:20.she made the same trip as her first visit abroad. Those excursions have
:22:20. > :22:23.book ended a remarkable Presidency. The times I look back on with pride,
:22:23. > :22:30.Winifred became president, I said we would do our best to build
:22:30. > :22:35.bridges and that is what we hopefully did. We had tremendous
:22:35. > :22:44.opportunities to build relationships in places and spaces
:22:44. > :22:47.were they had not been healthy. I am very pleased with that. In a few
:22:47. > :22:51.weeks, President Michaelis's like this will join those of her
:22:51. > :22:56.predecessors here. Such has been a success of the presidency, she has
:22:56. > :23:02.even won over one of her former rivals for a place in Aras an
:23:02. > :23:07.Uachtarain. In the 1987 and -- 1987 campaign, Derek Lally stood against
:23:07. > :23:16.her. Was there anything you would have done differently? A lot of
:23:16. > :23:20.things. But I am quite happy now I that she did a much better job than
:23:20. > :23:26.I ever would have done. At the show us a press President we ever had.
:23:26. > :23:32.best ever? I think so. A hard act to follow? Absolutely, and we thank
:23:33. > :23:38.her for her duty and commitment to the cause. She has made it so easy
:23:38. > :23:43.for people like ourselves. From what we used to be, to what they
:23:43. > :23:48.are and what we need to be. Her legacy will be that she has built
:23:48. > :23:51.bridges and it will never be forgotten. The reflections on the
:23:51. > :23:53.presidency of Mary McAleese. Now for another in our occasional
:23:53. > :23:56.series introducing the latest generation of MLAs. This week,
:23:56. > :24:06.Julia Paul has been to Londonderry to meet a man whose political
:24:06. > :24:13.
:24:13. > :24:19.career began at the tender age of 14. I have lived all my life in
:24:19. > :24:23.Derry. After a short stint in Liverpool. I have been a member of
:24:23. > :24:29.the SDLP since I was 14. I was involved in other things as well. I
:24:29. > :24:32.played sport. Derry has a very political city and this is a
:24:32. > :24:36.political country and I saw the opportunity with the Good Friday
:24:36. > :24:41.agreement to get involved and see a future that was there for all of us
:24:41. > :24:46.and one we can all play our part in. I believe that we can unite Ireland
:24:46. > :24:49.and we can be open and honest and it will be welcome to everybody. I
:24:49. > :24:57.was asked to run for the council when it was 22, representing
:24:57. > :25:02.Shantallow. I got elected. I was very proud. To represent Shantallow
:25:02. > :25:07.in the city. Things went from there. I was very humble last year to be
:25:07. > :25:12.elected as the mayor. In my first week, the Saville Report was
:25:12. > :25:17.launched and I worked with the Bloody Sunday families and it was a
:25:17. > :25:21.real honour to walk with this family is to the Guild Hall. To
:25:21. > :25:26.finally see the truth being set free. That was a day that lifted
:25:26. > :25:31.that dark cloud off the city. And the hope that came from that was
:25:31. > :25:36.very palpable. Today's letter, we went to Liverpool to bid to become
:25:36. > :25:43.the City of Culture. The winner of the competition to be the capital
:25:43. > :25:48.of culture is Derry, Londonderry... That was the beginning of a very
:25:48. > :25:53.good year for me and the City. And I was very proud to be involved. It
:25:53. > :25:58.was also a difficult year because we had a number of attacks on the
:25:58. > :26:03.city. And on the people. By dissident republicans. But what
:26:03. > :26:07.came out of that, the positive was the strength and the will of the
:26:07. > :26:14.people. They decided strongly they would not accept this. Derry is now
:26:14. > :26:17.on the up. But for a long time, it suffered and the poverty and the
:26:17. > :26:21.joblessness, and a lot of those issues are still there. Those are
:26:21. > :26:27.the issues that excited me. To try to make a difference, to change the
:26:27. > :26:30.face of the city. We can see the physical infrastructure, we are
:26:30. > :26:33.standing on the peace bridge, that is changing, at long last. But we
:26:33. > :26:37.have to think carefully and honestly about the fact that a lot
:26:37. > :26:40.of our people, especially young people, are either leaving because
:26:40. > :26:46.they cannot find work or they are on the dole. That is the burning
:26:46. > :26:51.issue. We need to solve that into the future. If we put all our
:26:51. > :26:54.shoulders to the wheel, we can solve that. I am one of the
:26:54. > :27:01.youngest MLAs from one of the youngest cities in Ireland and
:27:01. > :27:04.Britain. That is important, that be allowed everybody to have their say.
:27:04. > :27:08.And for young people to be in the assembly. What we need to learn is
:27:08. > :27:11.the lessons of the past, we have not always been good at listening
:27:11. > :27:17.to young people. Politicians are good at talking down to young
:27:17. > :27:21.people and telling them what they want. Without asking. That is one
:27:21. > :27:25.of the biggest problems. We have to go out and listen to young people.
:27:26. > :27:28.I have tried that in my role. We can all get better at that and
:27:28. > :27:34.social media is a good way of engaging with young people because
:27:34. > :27:38.you have to go to where they are. And it's better than standing on a
:27:38. > :27:44.pedestal. Over the next four years we have a lot to do. Especially
:27:44. > :27:49.around infrastructure. We can take the A five, something that needs to
:27:49. > :27:53.progress. We need to get the dual- carriageway from Derry to
:27:54. > :27:57.Aughnacloy. That will link Derry to the rest of the island. About time,
:27:57. > :28:02.because Derry has been on the fringes of the economic expansion
:28:02. > :28:07.first to -- for too long. There are powers and the Assembly who want to
:28:07. > :28:11.stop that. But the people listen, they will hear, that means Derry is
:28:11. > :28:15.being held back by politicians in Stormont. And some of us will not
:28:15. > :28:18.accept that. And that's where we must leave it this time round.
:28:18. > :28:28.We'll be back next week at the usual times. I hope you'll join us.
:28:28. > :28:29.
:28:29. > :28:38.Goodbye. Am I invisible?! Who will win the Irish presidential race?
:28:38. > :28:42.The outcome is us on Show as a candidate going for a job interview.
:28:42. > :28:48.They have the gilt edged pension that a solo, MLAs don't even employ
:28:48. > :28:52.relatives. You have the job, now go and research Equality in