:00:00. > :00:10.takeaway. Nick Robinson shared fish and chips with voters from Elton in
:00:11. > :00:13.south London. People who are just about managing, known as the Jams.
:00:14. > :00:16.The people who are in work but still struggle to make ends meet,
:00:17. > :00:18.to pay those bills at the end of the week.
:00:19. > :00:21.How will they make up their minds how to vote?
:00:22. > :00:28.We've come to the suburbs of south London to find out.
:00:29. > :00:34.Well, it's fish and chips for the latest of my
:00:35. > :00:37.Well, it's fish and chips for the latest of my election takeaways.
:00:38. > :00:40.We are in the south suburbs of London with a group of voters
:00:41. > :00:43.who are going to tell us how they are making up their minds
:00:44. > :00:52.Just to start us off, what issues in this area,
:00:53. > :00:54.before we talk about the country, what things all thinking
:00:55. > :00:56.about when you think of who to vote for?
:00:57. > :00:59.When you are concerned about this area, what are the things
:01:00. > :01:07.that are bothering you, making you make up your minds?
:01:08. > :01:09.One of the things I'm worried about is the school dinners.
:01:10. > :01:12.We've had the milk taken and now they are going to take
:01:13. > :01:21.the school meals and something about the breakfast.
:01:22. > :01:24.My child has breakfast before she goes to school.
:01:25. > :01:32.I think for me it has to be health care.
:01:33. > :01:37.If we looking at most of the services we get
:01:38. > :01:40.at the moment, take away some of the GPs, it was easy to get
:01:41. > :01:46.Ring up in the morning, you know when you want to go and see them.
:01:47. > :01:48.Now, it's 'what's wrong with you?' OK, call back at 8am.
:01:49. > :01:51.You ring back at 8am, you can't get through.
:01:52. > :01:54.And when you do get through, you get an appointment at 1030
:01:55. > :02:01.We are overstretching accident in emergencies.
:02:02. > :02:05.So having to take myself up to A E which could be looked at by my GP.
:02:06. > :02:10.I work in a school, and I have concerns about the school dinners
:02:11. > :02:13.But I also coach at a scheme in Stoke Newington.
:02:14. > :02:16.One of the biggest things locally is the knife epidemic
:02:17. > :02:19.Whichever party comes in, wins, has to have something steel cast
:02:20. > :02:22.in place to combat that because it's a problem.
:02:23. > :02:25.I work a lot with young children, an academy school in south London,
:02:26. > :02:37.My head spends 60% of her time dealing with social media issues
:02:38. > :02:39.which then spill over into the classrooms, the playground,
:02:40. > :02:43.Social media, people losing their temper with each
:02:44. > :02:50.When I was at school, many years ago, the bullying started
:02:51. > :02:53.Nowadays, with social media, it's 24-7.
:02:54. > :02:57.The generation that is coming through lives their lives through
:02:58. > :03:07.Are you watching the election much at the moment?
:03:08. > :03:10.Promises that they never follow through with.
:03:11. > :03:17.Promises that they never follow through with.
:03:18. > :03:23.I listened keenly because I like to hold people accountable,
:03:24. > :03:26.so I will listen to what you've got to see.
:03:27. > :03:54.When the time comes, if you implement those policies
:03:55. > :03:56.and then if you don't, I've got a starting point
:03:57. > :03:58.to say well, you did say this in the beginning.
:03:59. > :04:00.The Lib Dems with the tuition fees cuts.
:04:01. > :04:03.That upset me even though I was past the student stage,
:04:04. > :04:05.I was fortunate enough to get through before this happened,
:04:06. > :04:09.I thought it was very deceitful of them to make such a policy
:04:10. > :04:13.I think, day by day, it gathers momentum.
:04:14. > :04:16.I think today use the Theresa May, for the first time, start to look
:04:17. > :04:20.Also, a couple of weeks back, you had Diane Abbott did
:04:21. > :04:24.I found it embarrassing listening to that, you know.
:04:25. > :04:30.Did it tell you anything did you just think,
:04:31. > :04:34.There is no concrete foundation to what they are saying.
:04:35. > :04:36.They are coming in with these wonderful ideas, hooks to get people
:04:37. > :04:39.engaged but in actual fact, they have not thought it through.
:04:40. > :04:42.I looked today and they are talking about tuition fees.
:04:43. > :04:44.How on earth are they going to pay for this?
:04:45. > :04:46.More students than ever wanting people to go to university.
:04:47. > :04:49.Blair in 1997 wanted 50% of students to go to university.
:04:50. > :04:57.I want to start the wider conversation a bit by just asking
:04:58. > :05:03.If you had to describe how you were, how you were doing in your family,
:05:04. > :05:06.does it feel like it's pretty easy at the moment?
:05:07. > :05:09.Things are comfortable, you are shaking your head?
:05:10. > :05:12.Every single month, you are constantly thinking can
:05:13. > :05:16.I afford ?20 on my Oyster card, ?10 on my Oyster card if you want
:05:17. > :05:21.Even when you do the weekly shopping, it comes up to over
:05:22. > :05:23.?100 you are thinking, can something give?
:05:24. > :05:28.You constantly got multiple financial plates on the go
:05:29. > :05:51.In London, no. I get high in the six at night, having got up at 413
:05:52. > :05:59.morning. -- I get home at six o'clock at night. Is it tough times,
:06:00. > :06:13.Daniel? I work for the local Government. You
:06:14. > :06:25.would say it was a good salary, and a single mum. Childcare costs are
:06:26. > :06:31.joke. I'm lucky that I'm coming back out of that. If I was thinking about
:06:32. > :06:36.having another child at any time... The childcare costs alone because
:06:37. > :06:40.there three times a mortgage price almost. I think the problem with
:06:41. > :06:46.salaries of local Government, teachers, they haven't stayed in the
:06:47. > :06:58.bracket of the increase of what the cost of living has. What about for
:06:59. > :07:03.you? And struggling every year -- I am struggling every year. I have
:07:04. > :07:09.three children. It's with the same for me at the end of the year. You
:07:10. > :07:22.have to take out a loan, an overdraft. What do you do?
:07:23. > :07:32.I can't really give my kids 100%. I have to struggle to make them happy.
:07:33. > :07:42.You had to start telling stories, rosy stories. Is that for everyday
:07:43. > :07:57.things? It they want something, and I don't
:07:58. > :08:07.have the money, I have to tell the next week. Had you heard this
:08:08. > :08:15.phrase, just about managing? Yes. Is that you? Yes. I feel blessed
:08:16. > :08:21.sometimes though because I wouldn't be able to afford my house now. We
:08:22. > :08:25.are managing, and if some people are worrying about how to feed their
:08:26. > :08:30.children, food banks, it makes you think well, there is a whole world
:08:31. > :08:46.is under this that struggling even more. We chose you because you are
:08:47. > :08:50.all Jams. It's not just coincidence. You become more resource baubles the
:08:51. > :08:55.big you want to go to the football, the cinema or music or the theatre,
:08:56. > :09:03.you think yourself, how can I do it on the budget? You might think, can
:09:04. > :09:13.I get half price tickets. Who is doing all right? You! MPs! You are
:09:14. > :09:27.only jealous because I put a pickled onion! We have had no pay rises that
:09:28. > :09:36.MPs have. All the scandals, the public scandals. It's at the top. I
:09:37. > :09:43.asked you about that phrase, Jams. If you know you for certain who is,
:09:44. > :10:00.don't say. Do you know who earns more? Who said that phrase?
:10:01. > :10:11.Churchill. Jeremy Corbyn. If it was him I would be pleased. Theresa May.
:10:12. > :10:18.Theresa May. Isn't that interesting. She said that these were the people
:10:19. > :10:26.she wanted to help. Really? Who does she think they are? Talk is cheap,
:10:27. > :10:30.she'll sit round this dinner table with her cronies and they will tell
:10:31. > :10:35.you that they are just about managing with their two houses in
:10:36. > :10:42.their 160 grand cars that we are paying for! Why are they taking the
:10:43. > :10:47.school dinners away then? That's contradicting yourself there, isn't
:10:48. > :10:51.it? It seems like a race to the bottom in so many areas. I got a
:10:52. > :11:03.friend who is an super taxi driver. I got a friend who is
:11:04. > :11:12.an uber taxi driver. The tax system discourages people
:11:13. > :11:17.from working because the more you work, the more they tax. When I sit
:11:18. > :11:25.down in my house, some people are ready to work but when you think
:11:26. > :11:33.about it, the tax doesn't feel fair. It doesn't feel fair. They should be
:11:34. > :11:39.in courage in people to work. If you want people to work, relax the tax.
:11:40. > :11:46.If you are trying to balance the books each month, do the right
:11:47. > :11:51.thing, working 55-60 hours per week, all of a sudden, you are worse off.
:11:52. > :11:58.It doesn't make sense. It's like quicksand. The more you try, the
:11:59. > :12:03.harder it is to make ends meet. You hearing anything from any of the
:12:04. > :12:15.leaders that makes you think, they kind of get it. -- are you hearing
:12:16. > :12:19.anything from any of the leaders? I think the nationalisation of
:12:20. > :12:22.railways by Jeremy Corbyn is something good. Every year, the
:12:23. > :12:26.fares have been going up, I can't get a seat and sometimes you
:12:27. > :12:33.couldn't even get on your train, in my head I used to think, I just want
:12:34. > :12:41.this nationalised, and then it got privatised and it has gone down
:12:42. > :12:46.since. He reminds me of a normal person. He would sit around this
:12:47. > :12:50.table with us. I couldn't see myself eating fish and chips with Theresa
:12:51. > :12:55.May but I could with Jeremy Corbyn. I could say to him, here is my
:12:56. > :13:02.spreadsheet. I would ask him how he could help me. I think his demeanour
:13:03. > :13:08.tells me that he would ask us how we wanted things to be, so if Labour
:13:09. > :13:16.came back in, I think for a start doing a might start asking a bit
:13:17. > :13:21.more. I don't think he has leadership credentials. I can't put
:13:22. > :13:30.my finger on it. Don't you admire his honesty though? He is on his. He
:13:31. > :13:34.lives by a lot of the things he believes in. Whether he's a good
:13:35. > :13:44.leader is another matter, but he lives by what he believes. Is that
:13:45. > :13:50.the rights... Is that the test you set for a Prime Minister? It needs
:13:51. > :13:55.to be somebody you can relate to, warm up to and believe what they are
:13:56. > :14:03.selling you. It's like a sales pitch, who are you going to go for?
:14:04. > :14:13.I believe him but I felt let down by Brexit, I felt like he hid, he
:14:14. > :14:20.disappeared. What have you heard from Corbyn so far under the
:14:21. > :14:32.nationalisation of the railways? Jewish and fees. Except -- tuition
:14:33. > :14:38.fees, although it seemed unbelievable by September that you
:14:39. > :14:47.could get through it. That would be good. I got three children, three
:14:48. > :14:57.girls. They all want to go to college. The fees are so high that
:14:58. > :15:05.are not in a position that I could help them as much as I want to. Do
:15:06. > :15:13.you think he can do it? I hope so. It's like I say, you vote for them
:15:14. > :15:17.and you can never tell. I think mathematically it is possible my
:15:18. > :15:20.only problem is that in order to do that, does that mean that the
:15:21. > :15:27.student loans are going to go up so that cost of paying it back is going
:15:28. > :15:33.to go up? It's taken me a while to pay that back, so I'm wondering if
:15:34. > :15:40.you're going to subsidise in one area, if you reduce somewhere then
:15:41. > :15:45.something else has to increase. I would like for the NHS to get back
:15:46. > :16:03.to normal, giving nurses a chance. Page in the NHS? Yes. Nurses are not
:16:04. > :16:10.being appreciated. They need a pay rise? Yes. I think the police, with
:16:11. > :16:21.the climate, we need more police. Who is more honest with you? It's
:16:22. > :16:29.looking like Jeremy to be honest. I won't lie, I liked Theresa May at
:16:30. > :16:38.first, in terms of the iron fist of Margaret Thatcher although she
:16:39. > :16:43.destroyed everything... I tend to gear towards strong people and I did
:16:44. > :16:47.like Teresa at first, but there are too many things that make me think,
:16:48. > :16:58.you called this election, why did you do that? What about promises
:16:59. > :17:07.that the Tories have made to help you out? Everything she says puts me
:17:08. > :17:16.off further and further. They are going through the best for Britain
:17:17. > :17:20.with the negotiations Brexit, but we don't know. She's been singing the
:17:21. > :17:26.immigration song for many years. Nothing personally? Capping the
:17:27. > :17:32.price of energy? We've heard that before. We've been hearing that for
:17:33. > :17:42.years. Petrol is going to be capped... It never does. I like the
:17:43. > :17:46.idea, obviously. It sounds good but is it going to happen? That's one of
:17:47. > :17:52.the more obvious points you can rule out. Anyone with half a brain cell
:17:53. > :17:57.would know that we're talking about private companies. Since when did
:17:58. > :18:03.anything work telling private companies what to do. It's never
:18:04. > :18:07.worked. The rail system, it hasn't worked. The Government have tried
:18:08. > :18:18.and tried and tried to intervene but they are private company so they've
:18:19. > :18:32.failed. Has anybody not voted Labour? I wish I had. I've always
:18:33. > :18:44.voted Labour. Corbyn is not really for me, massively.
:18:45. > :18:52.It's the policies, uncle between the two. We vote every four years, we
:18:53. > :18:58.should be voting every 14 years, by the time we look at education again,
:18:59. > :19:05.we have to get the people out, the policy in, by the time you're done,
:19:06. > :19:11.the four years is up. You vote for Cameron, you don't like Corbyn. You
:19:12. > :19:16.don't mind him? And thinking of voting Labour. The change of
:19:17. > :19:22.policies. How much will they try and pull over people's eyes. What will
:19:23. > :19:29.tomorrow's story be? They keep changing on a daily basis. Who
:19:30. > :19:38.things Jeremy Corbyn will be our next Prime Minister? I'd like to
:19:39. > :19:48.hope... Nobody said yes. I think it will be closer than people think.
:19:49. > :19:53.I'll bet you this pickled onion. I hope we go into a coalition with
:19:54. > :20:03.Labour leading. Kettings Theresa May will win? I think she will win. I
:20:04. > :20:12.I think she will, I don't want her to though.
:20:13. > :20:23.When Theresa May came in, I thought Girl Power. I thought she was on the
:20:24. > :20:28.money, but for me now, it's a trust issue. She's done a lot of
:20:29. > :20:35.backtracking. Can I trust the? She's lied about the snap election. Then
:20:36. > :20:40.she turns around, can you trust someone like that? You need someone
:20:41. > :20:45.around you to advise you before you speak? Are they sitting down before
:20:46. > :20:50.they make these announcements? What's the general thinking? That is
:20:51. > :20:56.what I would like to know. It is enough to change your mind? I was
:20:57. > :21:02.sitting on the fence, but now I think I know exactly what I'm going
:21:03. > :21:08.to do. It is another bad story would you change your mind again? I was
:21:09. > :21:16.genuinely sitting on the fence for a while, but now I'm 100% aware of
:21:17. > :21:20.what I'm going to do. Which is? I'm not telling. What words would you
:21:21. > :21:29.apply to Theresa May? I don't think she's stable. Flaky. Rattled! And
:21:30. > :21:52.trustworthy. Professional. When I look John Major, everyone
:21:53. > :21:57.slated him. But I think Theresa May's the company 's best interest
:21:58. > :22:06.that heart. -- countries best interests at heart. I think she has
:22:07. > :22:12.been found out though. I see your point though, I've never looked at
:22:13. > :22:21.it like before. She's not particularly flash. Do you mean that
:22:22. > :22:30.as a compliment? Not a big flashy PR machine. Not like Boris Johnson. If
:22:31. > :22:34.he was there, forget it. Not for me. I think she's straight down the
:22:35. > :22:48.line. I think she knows what she wants. And for me, that's going a
:22:49. > :22:54.long way. I worked in the police when she was Home Secretary, and she
:22:55. > :23:01.just used to push things through. She was stick to things and that
:23:02. > :23:08.scares me. Will that make her rigour tough that I shed a? No. It may be
:23:09. > :23:14.good for Brexit, but in other aspects, she could be a bit softer,
:23:15. > :23:20.things like the NHS, see the bigger picture rather than just her road
:23:21. > :23:27.map for success. One last question. A lot of you like Jeremy Corbyn. Is
:23:28. > :23:38.there anything that makes you worry about him? Not really. The only grey
:23:39. > :23:43.area with him and the Labour Party is they just have to get their maths
:23:44. > :23:48.right. I'm not talking about the Diane Abbott thing, I'm talking
:23:49. > :23:50.about in general. If you are going to see what you are going to say
:23:51. > :23:56.then you need to demonstrate where this will come from and how you
:23:57. > :24:05.think you will get this back. You need to know the numbers? That's all
:24:06. > :24:12.it is. Will he get the Brexit deal right for us if he goes into power?
:24:13. > :24:21.Why might he not? I felt like he disappeared when it was kicking off
:24:22. > :24:28.he disappeared. There was nothing to see that he was pitting his backing
:24:29. > :24:36.to it. He wasn't there for me. Will Theresa May be goods in most Brexit
:24:37. > :24:47.negotiations? She's doing her best but she's stubborn. One or two
:24:48. > :25:06.words, not sentences. Maverick. Friendly. Honest. Genuine. Trusting.
:25:07. > :25:15.Perfect! Gut feeling. That's what you feel good about. Very good.
:25:16. > :25:18.Thank you all very much for being here. Time to finish off the pickled
:25:19. > :25:19.onion. That's all from the