:00:00. > :00:00.including future trade deals, the state this EU nationals in the UK,
:00:00. > :00:09.and the future of the EU. He's joined the Conservative MEP, Amjad
:00:10. > :00:36.Bashir and the Labour MP Richard Corbyn.
:00:37. > :00:39.Hello, welcome to Politics Europe, your regular guide to the top
:00:40. > :00:54.On today's programme, the EU's trade Commissioner has
:00:55. > :00:56.a surprise U-turn on a trade deal with Canada.
:00:57. > :00:59.What does this mean in future trade deals, like that with Britain?
:01:00. > :01:03.The status of EU nationals and UK nationals in Europe is set to play
:01:04. > :01:16.With Britain heading to the exit door, will the EU respond
:01:17. > :01:20.by pulling closer together, or handing power back
:01:21. > :01:29.Goodbye to all this, what will MEPs miss about their monthly jaunts
:01:30. > :01:31.to the European Parliament in
:01:32. > :01:38.All that to come, and more next half-hour.
:01:39. > :01:40.This week members of the European Parliament
:01:41. > :01:42.at the meeting in Strasbourg for their regular session.
:01:43. > :01:48.Our guide in the latest in Europe, in just 60 seconds.
:01:49. > :01:51.The Dutch presidency of the EU came to an end,
:01:52. > :02:06.The EU must regain confidence and fight growing populism
:02:07. > :02:10.and nationalism in Europe said the Slovak Prime Minister.
:02:11. > :02:14.The European Commission performing U-turn on the trading with Canada,
:02:15. > :02:16.giving in to pressure from France and Germany,
:02:17. > :02:18.agreeing that national parliaments should ratify the deal.
:02:19. > :02:20.There's been a bigger rise in the number of migrants
:02:21. > :02:24.MEPs agreeing to set up a border and coastguard force.
:02:25. > :02:28.MEPs had sharp exchanges about the result of Britain's referendum.
:02:29. > :02:30.EU president Jean-Claude Juncker mocked Boris Johnson
:02:31. > :02:48.Patriots don't resign when things get difficult, they stay.
:02:49. > :02:56.As for the outgoing Ukip leader who he says
:02:57. > :02:58.he will stay on as an MEP until Britain leaves.
:02:59. > :03:06.Conservative, Amjad Bashir, and Labour's Richard Corbett.
:03:07. > :03:12.More now on that EU trade deal with Canada.
:03:13. > :03:18.It has been concluded, but not yet ratified,
:03:19. > :03:24.could have implications for other trade deals on the way.
:03:25. > :03:26.It must be a worry, if this deal has to go
:03:27. > :03:29.through all the parliaments, the hurdles are very high.
:03:30. > :03:38.This is part of a trend, not a one-off decision.
:03:39. > :03:42.Trade deals, if they are purely trade, they are EU
:03:43. > :03:45.competence, the EU Parliament and Council of ministers fining them.
:03:46. > :03:53.Increasingly trade goes into more things, common regulations,
:03:54. > :03:57.You need every member country to ratify, with 28 member states,
:03:58. > :04:04.The Canadian deal will have some trouble.
:04:05. > :04:10.If the North Atlantic Free Trade deal with America as to be done,
:04:11. > :04:25.If the North Atlantic Free Trade deal with America has to be done,
:04:26. > :04:27.according to opinion polls, that will not get through
:04:28. > :04:31.This demonstrates how difficult it is to do trade deals with the EU.
:04:32. > :04:38.We will be able to conduct our own trade deals much faster and quicker.
:04:39. > :04:41.If the EU cannot do trade deals with Canada, who can it?
:04:42. > :04:43.What about our own trade deal with the EU?
:04:44. > :04:45.If we are left outside the European single market,
:04:46. > :04:53.every single British good with a tariff barrier,
:04:54. > :04:55.passporting for the financial service sector would be gone.
:04:56. > :04:57.That will become more difficult to obtain, leaving
:04:58. > :04:59.the European Union, and negotiating that afterwards,
:05:00. > :05:12.On the implications of what is going to happen with Canada,
:05:13. > :05:15.is it now possible, when we eventually come to agree
:05:16. > :05:17.the terms of Brexit, will that have to be agreed by 27
:05:18. > :05:21.Our people, the British people have spoken loudly.
:05:22. > :05:33.We have to start negotiating what the people want.
:05:34. > :05:40.The new Prime Minister, she will invoke Article 50.
:05:41. > :05:49.Doesn't the Lisbon Treaty specify the ratification process?
:05:50. > :05:53.Could it be down to the national parliaments?
:05:54. > :06:02.If the new Prime Minister manages to get trade incorporated
:06:03. > :06:04.in the divorce settlement, that needs a qualified
:06:05. > :06:19.If trade is left as a separate item, to be negotiated separately.
:06:20. > :06:21.The likelihood is it could be classified as a mix
:06:22. > :06:23.That means every national parliament.
:06:24. > :06:38.Sticking with the version of the ball game.
:06:39. > :06:40.One question arising from the deabate between
:06:41. > :06:43.the next Prime Minister, what happens to EU nationals
:06:44. > :06:48.Front runner for the Tory leadership,
:06:49. > :06:50.Theresa May said she can only guarantee the status,
:06:51. > :06:53.as long as British nationals living in EU countries have their status
:06:54. > :07:01.According to the Office for National Statistics,
:07:02. > :07:04.there are 2.9 million people from the EU residing here,
:07:05. > :07:08.Does not include those coming on shorter stays.
:07:09. > :07:10.Not all those are working, including families.
:07:11. > :07:12.Polish nationals represent the largest group.
:07:13. > :07:15.853,000, followed by Ireland and Romania.
:07:16. > :07:19.According to information collected by the United Nations.
:07:20. > :07:33.1.2 million UK citizens living in the rest of the European Union.
:07:34. > :07:35.Lower than figures putting it at two million.
:07:36. > :07:37.Figures ratified and supported by the House of Commons library.
:07:38. > :07:39.The 27 countries, Spain has the most, 310,000 migrants
:07:40. > :07:58.Are you surprised that Theresa May has made a status
:07:59. > :08:06.I was on the Leave side of the debate.
:08:07. > :08:09.I was asked questions during the run-up to the referendum,
:08:10. > :08:18.I said in future we need to control immigration,
:08:19. > :08:20.those people already here should be allowed to stay.
:08:21. > :08:27.We have to take into account the 1.2 million of our own citizens
:08:28. > :08:30.It would be a dereliction of duty to ignore that.
:08:31. > :08:35.Either the 2.9 million EU nationals in this country are going to be
:08:36. > :08:37.guaranteed their status, continued status for the foreseeable future,
:08:38. > :08:39.or they are a bargaining chip in the negotiations
:08:40. > :08:51.we have to take the whole thing together.
:08:52. > :08:53.Our citizens have to have the right to remain.
:08:54. > :08:55.Elderly people retiring at a vulnerable stage of their life.
:08:56. > :08:57.They need assurance they can remain there.
:08:58. > :09:01.EU nationals sound like a bargaining chip.
:09:02. > :09:13.It would appear so from what was said.
:09:14. > :09:15.Even more complicated than that, not just about residency rights.
:09:16. > :09:17.EU law guarantees rights not to be discriminated
:09:18. > :09:20.against on the grounds of nationality.
:09:21. > :09:22.A Brit living in Spain, dying, what happens
:09:23. > :09:29.Some EU countries prescribe that, you cannot do
:09:30. > :09:40.Do you believe that we should guarantee the existing status of EU
:09:41. > :09:50.Yes there are people working there, families, part of the
:09:51. > :10:00.To imply it should be a bargaining chip, I don't see any
:10:01. > :10:05.other EU country trying to do something to us.
:10:06. > :10:21.Isn't it right, when we are talking about EU citizens being allowed
:10:22. > :10:24.to stay there, which I agree they should, isn't it right we take
:10:25. > :10:33.You are implying other countries would challenge those rights.
:10:34. > :10:41.If we were doing the right thing by EU citizens, they
:10:42. > :10:43.they will do the right thing by British citizens.
:10:44. > :10:46.By putting it into the negotiations, you are saying, why
:10:47. > :10:52.What is the likelihood, only 1.2 million spread over 27
:10:53. > :11:06.countries, concentrated in Spain, France and Ireland.
:11:07. > :11:15.That is not going to happen, they will continue
:11:16. > :11:19.Would it not be a good position for Britain to take a higher moral
:11:20. > :11:22.position, regardless what you do with our 1.2 million,
:11:23. > :11:25.we don't believe you will do much, 3 million in Britain are safe.
:11:26. > :11:33.Even if it was ten, our duty to look after those ten,
:11:34. > :11:37.there are 300,000 Spain, going to retire.
:11:38. > :11:41.We have to negotiate and they can remain.
:11:42. > :11:49.They said you cannot negotiate unless you invoke article 50.
:11:50. > :11:57.If you make this thing a bargaining chip,
:11:58. > :12:13.they are in danger, if you do not, they are not in danger.
:12:14. > :12:16.It is about looking after the rights of our people on the continent.
:12:17. > :12:18.You have moved from guaranteeing nations they, too guaranteeing
:12:19. > :12:21.they should be a bargaining chip after the campaign.
:12:22. > :12:25.The situation, we have right to guarantee the rights of our
:12:26. > :12:31.To do that you have to make the 3 million people living
:12:32. > :12:39.We want to guarantee rights for our people on the continent,
:12:40. > :12:59.That is not what Nigel Farage said, leading the campaign
:13:00. > :13:01.or Leave campaigners, Iain Duncan Smith, Chris Grayling.
:13:02. > :13:07.Nigel Farage was not part of the Leave campaign this I don't
:13:08. > :13:13.The result of referendum has raised questions about the EU itself.
:13:14. > :13:25.Now that Britain is going to leave, has Brexit damaged European project,
:13:26. > :13:27.changed it, hauled it below the water line?
:13:28. > :13:30.Will it be the trigger the EU needs to bring about closer union.
:13:31. > :13:35.Big moments in EU history, commemorated at the European
:13:36. > :13:57.This session, they have gone for a referendum theme.
:13:58. > :13:59.Have a look, Big Ben, Brexit stamp, picture of
:14:00. > :14:03.The talk in this place is what will Europe look like post-Brexit?
:14:04. > :14:08.What direction do you want Europe to in now we have left?
:14:09. > :14:19.The Dutch Prime Minister said the way forward was not big reforms,
:14:20. > :14:21.just a more effective EU, which is how the right
:14:22. > :14:25.We are strongly against treaty change, we need concrete answers
:14:26. > :14:29.Stop the illegal migration flow, which we saw last month.
:14:30. > :14:31.Find possibilities to find jobs for the young people,
:14:32. > :14:36.If we deliver on these things, people are happy with Europe.
:14:37. > :14:54.Socialist group not just handing out goody bags,
:14:55. > :14:56.they are reviving plans by Martin Schultz,
:14:57. > :14:58.the European Parliament president and his fellow left-wingers.
:14:59. > :15:00.I heard from the quotes of those voting for Brexit,
:15:01. > :15:03.I can elect a government, I can change a government
:15:04. > :15:10.Why not do the same in Brussels, to elect a government,
:15:11. > :15:13.which would be the commission, and have the power to have a nation
:15:14. > :15:17.In the chamber, we saw even more extreme views.
:15:18. > :15:30.And those really aren't. Europe needs to be reimagined. A new
:15:31. > :15:39.approach, new vision should be give in to European citizens,
:15:40. > :15:44.European citizens are not against Europe, they are against this
:15:45. > :15:49.Europe. TRANSLATION: People want their sovereignty back, to cooperate
:15:50. > :15:56.freely in the Europe of sovereign states. Your choice is simple, you
:15:57. > :16:00.change radically or you die. TRANSLATION: Talk of whether the
:16:01. > :16:07.commission macro Jean-Claude Juncker should be the seat. If Mr Cameron
:16:08. > :16:14.resigns, I think Jean-Claude Juncker should resign also. You think he
:16:15. > :16:23.should go, why? Because his impudence was one of the reasons the
:16:24. > :16:26.UK leaves. Enter the Slovak Prime Minister, will chair a summit in
:16:27. > :16:32.breathless laver where this will come to a head. I have heard so me
:16:33. > :16:38.different plans for the future of the EU, there are one, three, some
:16:39. > :16:42.people want business in usual. At the summit ( laver, how would you
:16:43. > :16:49.choose which plan to use? TRANSLATION: More than 60% of our
:16:50. > :16:53.citizens support the EU, we would lose that if we are too confident.
:16:54. > :17:00.We active their expectations in mind. The whole house is not in
:17:01. > :17:06.order, we have to address that. To cheer everyone up, a Northern Irish
:17:07. > :17:11.MEP invited this band from Belfast to Strasberg. There are enormous
:17:12. > :17:18.questions about who will call the tune of the EU charts its future
:17:19. > :17:23.without the UK. Adam was one of the Fiddlers! We
:17:24. > :17:28.have naturally concentrated on the divisions except has raised in the
:17:29. > :17:37.country. It has created divisions on Europe. On two levels. Europe and
:17:38. > :17:41.the EU was divided on what its negotiation position should be
:17:42. > :17:46.towards us, and also divided on where Europe should go, between
:17:47. > :17:50.those for further integration, and those for greater nation state
:17:51. > :17:58.Corporation. Both divisions mirror each other. The French, the
:17:59. > :18:03.Italians, the commission, more integration, the Eastern European
:18:04. > :18:07.'s, the council, on less integration, let's see if we can do
:18:08. > :18:13.a deal with Britain. Do you broadly by that? To a degree. Remember the
:18:14. > :18:18.bottom line, on integration or less integration. The basic rule book of
:18:19. > :18:23.the EU is a set of treaties, which can only be changed to give more
:18:24. > :18:28.powers, if every single country agrees. It can only move at the
:18:29. > :18:34.speed of the least enthusiastic. On how to deal with Britain, I detect a
:18:35. > :18:39.shift of need. Initial reaction was, OK, you decide to go, let's sort it
:18:40. > :18:43.out quickly. Now there is a realisation they can only be
:18:44. > :18:48.triggered by Britain giving the notification under Article 15, and
:18:49. > :18:57.Britain needs time to work out what it wants, what alternative are we
:18:58. > :19:02.negotiating for. We have no clarity, the League side gave a very
:19:03. > :19:10.different vision, inside the single market, one outside, facing a tariff
:19:11. > :19:15.barrier. So far unsuitable, but we have to choose one, and people might
:19:16. > :19:22.say, that is not what I was told, and reopen the question. DEC quite a
:19:23. > :19:26.debate for the future of the European Union. No appetite for
:19:27. > :19:33.treaty trade. The East Europeans want to use Brexit, the group led by
:19:34. > :19:38.polling, using it as a way to build up the position of the nation state.
:19:39. > :19:43.They want to get rid of Jean-Claude Juncker is the president of the
:19:44. > :19:46.commission. Angela Merkel made it clear he will not be doing the
:19:47. > :19:53.negotiations with Britain, that will be a job for the Council and her.
:19:54. > :19:56.Changes afoot. Yes, I don't buy the line that the member states never
:19:57. > :20:01.controlled the European Union. Every fundamental decision needs every
:20:02. > :20:06.national government to agree. Even when you need a qualified majority,
:20:07. > :20:10.pretty hefty majority. The idea things can be decided with member
:20:11. > :20:15.states being blissfully unaware. That was not my point. It was the
:20:16. > :20:21.shifting balance of power taking place. Divisions between Paris and
:20:22. > :20:25.Berlin. The irony is, Europe could now start moving in more of a
:20:26. > :20:33.direction you wanted it to move in the first place, and we will not be
:20:34. > :20:38.there. Europe is in a pickle. A good British expression. The people of
:20:39. > :20:45.Europe want something similar to bus stop bring democracy closer to the
:20:46. > :20:51.nation, make decisions for themselves. Jean-Claude Juncker and
:20:52. > :20:55.the like once a federal state with more power concentrated in the
:20:56. > :21:02.centre. That is why Europe is about to implode. We shall see whether it
:21:03. > :21:08.does or not. Our guests of the day, like Britain's 73 MEPs are something
:21:09. > :21:13.of an endangered species. They will be there for a while. They have a
:21:14. > :21:17.right to keep their seats until the process of leaving the EU is
:21:18. > :21:22.complete. When they finally signed off from their duties, what will
:21:23. > :21:28.they missed. Here is our Adam again. The grand old cathedral proves the
:21:29. > :21:34.first point, Strasbourg is very easy on the eye. Also an impressive show
:21:35. > :21:44.every night during the summer. When I went last night, a breakdown after
:21:45. > :21:49.30 seconds. The city is awash with bakeries, cosy bars, and Michelin
:21:50. > :21:57.starred restaurants like this one where you can get the feel with
:21:58. > :22:01.mushrooms for just 49 euros. MEPs do not spend a lot of time in the
:22:02. > :22:10.centre of town, they are in the European quarter. Here, like a theme
:22:11. > :22:15.park for Euro geeks. The Court of Human Rights, the Council of Europe,
:22:16. > :22:21.over their, the efficiency of the European Parliament. In here, you
:22:22. > :22:29.will find the political stage on an epic scale. Parliament's the
:22:30. > :22:33.debating chamber. Around 12 and a half times bigger than the House of
:22:34. > :22:36.Commons chamber in Westminster. While you are speaking, your
:22:37. > :22:43.beautifully honed words will be translated into 23 languages
:22:44. > :22:46.simultaneously. Quite a convivial place, dotted with bars and
:22:47. > :22:51.restaurants like this one. Very international. Great if you want to
:22:52. > :22:58.discuss olive farming in Greece from a feminist perspective. All the
:22:59. > :23:03.fiendishly complicated voting system that no one quite understands. One
:23:04. > :23:09.thing no MEP will miss if the travel. Getting here is difficult. I
:23:10. > :23:13.had to get the train to Paris, walk across the city to get another
:23:14. > :23:19.train. Even harder if you are going to Scotland, Wales and Northern
:23:20. > :23:21.Ireland. Goodbye, Strasbourg. The big question, what happened to
:23:22. > :23:32.Adam after we leave the EU you? What is the role of the European
:23:33. > :23:39.Parliament in the Article 50 process of ageing. It would have to improve
:23:40. > :23:48.any agreement reached between Britain and the EU. The plan will be
:23:49. > :23:52.until British MEPs staying until the vote. They are members until Britain
:23:53. > :23:58.is a member up to and including that vote. I assume you'll want to stay.
:23:59. > :24:03.To make sure, if you can, there is a majority to ratify whatever the
:24:04. > :24:08.British government agrees? I would leave tomorrow, if it was possible.
:24:09. > :24:13.You are absolutely right, the negotiations have to take place, you
:24:14. > :24:17.had to ratify them, I will remain until that is done. Are they
:24:18. > :24:33.treating you like second-class citizens? That is not the case,
:24:34. > :24:38.there was a bit of apprehension. Some say if you are on your way out,
:24:39. > :24:41.not so much your concern but we are voting on, only coming into force in
:24:42. > :24:47.three years' time. As long as we make contributions when we need to
:24:48. > :24:56.be on the committees, we need to cheer things. It is an ex-MEP
:24:57. > :25:02.employable? If we are outside the European Union, we will still want
:25:03. > :25:08.to influence it. Maybe Amjad Bashir could get a job as a lobbyist? Back
:25:09. > :25:16.in Yorkshire. You want to be back in Yorkshire. You have plenty of time
:25:17. > :25:24.to get your CV ready? Tips from Andrea Leadsom? Certainly not. I
:25:25. > :25:28.will carry on working in Yorkshire for the party. Trying to get
:25:29. > :25:35.membership from the blue-collar workers of Yorkshire, and the
:25:36. > :25:41.communities. At least two years ago, at least. Depends how long Britain
:25:42. > :25:47.takes to work out what it was to secure and trigger article 50. That
:25:48. > :25:51.is what we will be covering. That is it for now, thanks to all my guests.
:25:52. > :26:03.Hope to see you soon. Goodbye from Politics Europe.
:26:04. > :26:08.Good afternoon, pretty mixed fortunes across the British Isles.
:26:09. > :26:13.Sunshine lifting temperatures to 24 degrees in places. Other places have
:26:14. > :26:15.seen some quite heavy rain. Weather watchers capturing the contrast.
:26:16. > :26:16.Sunshine in