:00:00. > :00:36.Now on BBC News, it's time for Politics Europe.
:00:37. > :00:38.Hello and welcome to Politics Europe. Coming up on today's
:00:39. > :00:52.After a week of high terrorist tension, from fears of a Paris-style
:00:53. > :00:55.attack, Brussels returns to something alittle more like
:00:56. > :00:59.normality but with one of the Paris terrorists still at large, the
:01:00. > :01:02.security forces cannot afford to re-Alexander. EU commission
:01:03. > :01:07.President, Jean-Claude Juncker, warns the migrant crisis and
:01:08. > :01:11.widespread security dangers, mean the EU's open borders and single
:01:12. > :01:15.currency are under threat. Britain's Foreign Secretary warns
:01:16. > :01:19.that the country could leave the EU if it cannot reach an agreement on
:01:20. > :01:24.reducing welfare for migrants. But what are the chances of that? And we
:01:25. > :01:29.report from Italy, where private firms have taken on the task of
:01:30. > :01:39.preserving the country's most valuable and historic public
:01:40. > :01:45.monuments. All that to come. Joining me as we canter around the latest
:01:46. > :01:50.news from Brussels, Strasbourg and the EU are Conservative MEP, Anthea
:01:51. > :01:54.McIntyre and the Ukip MEP, Jonathan Arnold. Welcome to both of you.
:01:55. > :01:58.First today, Belgium authorities have reduced the threat level in
:01:59. > :02:03.Brussels from its highest level of 4 but only to 3. The city was locked
:02:04. > :02:06.down for nearly a week with schools, universities and Metro system
:02:07. > :02:11.closed, soldiers deployed on the streets. It was after fears of a
:02:12. > :02:14.Paris-style attack. Some of the Paris suspects lived in Brussels, at
:02:15. > :02:18.least one, Salah Abdeslam is still at large. Let's talk to our
:02:19. > :02:22.correspondent, Damian Grammaticus, who is in Brussels.
:02:23. > :02:27.Damian, the lockdown may be over, but there must still be very high
:02:28. > :02:34.security alerts? Yes, there is. The lowering of the threat level,
:02:35. > :02:36.Andrew, from 4 to 3, only means that the authorities believe that an
:02:37. > :02:41.imminent threat now doesn't exist but there is still a very, very
:02:42. > :02:46.serious risk of a possible attack, is what they say. So, what the
:02:47. > :02:51.Justice Minister has been explaining, is it means they no
:02:52. > :02:55.longer have credible intelligence of something being planned immediately,
:02:56. > :03:00.however, still across the city, we have armed troops. We have increased
:03:01. > :03:05.police presence. As of Friday morning, all of the Metro was back
:03:06. > :03:10.up and running. All of the schools were back on, but those security
:03:11. > :03:15.measures will stay in place, we are told and will only be scaled back
:03:16. > :03:18.gradually in the coming days. We know what what the Paris attacks
:03:19. > :03:21.have done to France and French politics and the French Government
:03:22. > :03:27.reaction. What has it done to Belgium? Well, I think the first
:03:28. > :03:30.thing it has done, is to mobilise, if you like, the many different
:03:31. > :03:37.parts of the Belgium Government system. This is a very fragmented
:03:38. > :03:40.system here. You have federal government, regional governments,
:03:41. > :03:43.governments for the different language-speaking parts of Belgium.
:03:44. > :03:50.In Brussels itself. They overlap in many, many ways. What it has forced,
:03:51. > :03:52.I think immediately, is a focus on the coordination between the
:03:53. > :03:56.different levels. One of the criticisms has been that Belgium,
:03:57. > :04:01.because of that fragmented system, hasn't been able to respond as
:04:02. > :04:04.effectively maybe as it could have done, to some of the growing threat.
:04:05. > :04:09.So that's one thing. An immediate focus, too, on the nature and the
:04:10. > :04:09.funding of the security structure in Belgium.
:04:10. > :04:30.seemed to have come from Belgium, Also, of course, very serious
:04:31. > :04:36.seemed to have come from Belgium, from Brussels, from a particular
:04:37. > :04:37.area, molen Beck, how they might have been radicalised and why
:04:38. > :04:48.Belgium, Brussels? Very interesting. Debates
:04:49. > :04:51.over security have dominated discussions in Strasbourg this week,
:04:52. > :04:55.where the European Parliament has been meeting for its month
:04:56. > :05:00.polymreeny session. On Wednesday, EU commission President, Jean-Claude
:05:01. > :05:03.Juncker, warned the heightened security atmosphere, as well as the
:05:04. > :05:05.ongoing migration crisis were threatening the very foundations of
:05:06. > :05:12.the EU TRANSLATION: The shengen system
:05:13. > :05:15.is partly comatose. Those who believe in Europe, its values and
:05:16. > :05:21.principles and freedoms must try and they will do so, to breathe new life
:05:22. > :05:24.into the spirit behind shengen. If the spirit of shengen leaves us
:05:25. > :05:28.forever and leaves our hearts, we will lose more than the shengen
:05:29. > :05:33.agreement. The single currency doesn't make sense if shengen fails.
:05:34. > :05:42.How seriously would you say shengen is now under threat? I think we have
:05:43. > :05:48.to recognise that Shengen already made provisions for closing borders
:05:49. > :05:52.in times of crisis. So, to an extent, it has already been
:05:53. > :05:59.anticipated. I think the more important thing is ensuring that the
:06:00. > :06:03.external borders are career. That is is really what Shengen relies on.
:06:04. > :06:06.The effort should be on strengthening external borders. But
:06:07. > :06:09.the Dutch Prime Minister has been telling us that measures agreed by
:06:10. > :06:13.the EU to control the external borders of the EU have not been
:06:14. > :06:18.implemented by the southern European countries, where most of the
:06:19. > :06:24.migrants are coming in. And that's hugely worrying. Obviously the UK is
:06:25. > :06:29.outside of Shengen, so we control our borders, which is very
:06:30. > :06:33.important. I think, nevertheless, we benefit from strengthened borders on
:06:34. > :06:37.the external front years of Europe. Do you buy this link that
:06:38. > :06:41.Jean-Claude Juncker is raising between if Shengen goes, the euro
:06:42. > :06:47.goes? No, absolutely not. The idea that when you have to say - show
:06:48. > :06:54.your passport at a border - that that impacts upon the whole economy
:06:55. > :06:58.of the euro, it seems to me that it is the same scaring mongering that
:06:59. > :07:01.junk tries when he tries to tell Britain we shouldn't be leaving the
:07:02. > :07:04.European Union. What do you think of that? I think that the eurozone
:07:05. > :07:11.requires probably closer union, which is precisely why we don't want
:07:12. > :07:15.to be part of it. That's not going to happen this side of the German or
:07:16. > :07:18.French elections in 2017. Indeed. I think it is very much in our
:07:19. > :07:23.interests that the eurozone survives but I think it is equally important
:07:24. > :07:27.that we stay out of it. Because we want to have proper political
:07:28. > :07:32.control and not have, as in the words of the Prime Minister - we
:07:33. > :07:36.don't want-ever-closer union. That's why it is important to maintain the
:07:37. > :07:39.difference between the eurozone countries and non-eurozone and make
:07:40. > :07:45.sure we have fair position outside of the euro. You must take some
:07:46. > :07:47.comfort from the rather dramatic warnings of the European
:07:48. > :07:51.establishment about the future of Europe. We have heard from
:07:52. > :07:57.Jean-Claude Juncker saying that not just Shengen but the euro could now
:07:58. > :08:00.be under threat. The Dutch Prime Minister has been comparing the
:08:01. > :08:04.currencies of Europe to the last days of the Roman Empire, if they
:08:05. > :08:09.don't get things together. Are you beginning to feel you are pushing at
:08:10. > :08:12.an open door here? Well, certainly there are reasons for supposing that
:08:13. > :08:15.Britain would be a lot better outside the European Union and
:08:16. > :08:19.reasons for supposing the European Union is in a certain amount of
:08:20. > :08:23.trouble. I suspect what Juncker is trying to do, if he is trying to
:08:24. > :08:28.Foster a certain unionite between the EU countries. He scare amongers
:08:29. > :08:34.about the euro because he thinks some countries or in favour the euro
:08:35. > :08:38.if they think about bringing back passport controls somehow leads to
:08:39. > :08:41.the failure of euro. I think he is overplaying it rather than
:08:42. > :08:43.downplaying it to those countries and at the same time saying to
:08:44. > :08:48.Britain something very different. You know, you mention the words
:08:49. > :08:52."ever-closer union", the problem is, those words don't really have any
:08:53. > :08:55.legal force in the treaties. Yes, of course, Cameron can go away and
:08:56. > :08:59.negotiate a change in those words but it won't make the slightest bit
:09:00. > :09:03.of difference to the actual situation, within the European
:09:04. > :09:07.Union. What we are getting from Cameron is window dressing, rather
:09:08. > :09:11.than actual change. If Cameron wanted to change the EU, he would
:09:12. > :09:17.ask for real changes. Which he is. We will come on to the problem. But
:09:18. > :09:21.isn't the problem for those who want it stay in, that this referendum
:09:22. > :09:25.could well take place at a time when Europe is seen to be in something of
:09:26. > :09:29.a crisis and even reeding Europeans, who believe in the European project,
:09:30. > :09:32.from the President of the Commission to the President of the Council to
:09:33. > :09:37.the Prime Minister of Holland r beginning to fear for its future? I
:09:38. > :09:42.think it highlights the need for reform, and we have seen this week
:09:43. > :09:46.that ministers from - 27 different ministers from 19 different
:09:47. > :09:50.countries are saying - we have to have reform and reduce the
:09:51. > :09:54.administrative burden. I have never heard that before. They want targets
:09:55. > :09:59.for burden reduction. It is not just us. So often we are saying it is
:10:00. > :10:03.just the UK. Do you think it'll happen in time for the referendum? I
:10:04. > :10:08.believe it will. You do? I do. I think it is key for the future and
:10:09. > :10:11.when you say, as you did, that there is debate among European countries,
:10:12. > :10:16.there is concern, it is the reform of Europe that's so vital to keeping
:10:17. > :10:18.it going. We need to move on. The UK Government has warned uncontrolled
:10:19. > :10:22.migration could force Britain to leave the EU, the warning came as
:10:23. > :10:26.new figures showed net inward migration to the EU had reached an
:10:27. > :10:31.all-time high with net migration from the rest of Europe also hitting
:10:32. > :10:35.a new record. Kroling immigration is the really substantive issue at the
:10:36. > :10:39.heart of Britain's renegotiation of its membership of the EU. --
:10:40. > :10:44.controlling immigration. But can the UK win substantial reforms from the
:10:45. > :10:50.EU, particularly in this area? Let's talk to John SpringFord from the
:10:51. > :10:56.Centre of European Reform. Let's get an overview. Overall how would you
:10:57. > :10:59.say negotiations are going? They have only just started in earnest.
:11:00. > :11:02.It is difficult to say. A lot of the other Member States have been
:11:03. > :11:07.complaining that David Cameron has not been really very specific in
:11:08. > :11:12.many of his areas and, so, we are now seeing the process where some
:11:13. > :11:19.specifics are being laid down in negotiations in Brussels. Is it not
:11:20. > :11:24.inconceivable that whatever happens, whatever deal is eventually agreed,
:11:25. > :11:31.that cannot be be done and dusted by the December summit? Do you agree? I
:11:32. > :11:37.think that's highly unlikely. Part of the reason is we are still quite
:11:38. > :11:41.far apart on some issues, particularly benefits from - in-work
:11:42. > :11:45.benefits for migrants. Let's come on to that. I understand what Mr
:11:46. > :11:51.Cameron wants is people who come from the rest of the E to you. Work
:11:52. > :11:54.in the UK, that for the first four years they would not qualify for tax
:11:55. > :11:59.credits and things, or other welfare payments and so on. It's the one
:12:00. > :12:06.kind of substantive change that he is asking for, that you could almost
:12:07. > :12:12.measure. I understand there is a lot of resistance to this, particularly
:12:13. > :12:17.from Eastern Europe? There is certainly a lot of resistance from
:12:18. > :12:20.yeern European but also other countries as well. It is not just
:12:21. > :12:23.Poland that are unhappy about this. Angela Merkel has said she does not
:12:24. > :12:24.want the principle of non-discrimination, which underpins
:12:25. > :12:26.the single market, that Member States cannot discriminate against
:12:27. > :12:31.workers or companies from other Member States. She doesn't want that
:12:32. > :12:38.principle to be weakened. And the other Member States that are
:12:39. > :12:41.opposing this move, see Cameron's proposal as owe sensingly
:12:42. > :12:49.discriminatory. Anthea McIntyre was telling us, just a few minutes ago,
:12:50. > :12:53.that there is now a huge well-spring for desire and on all sorts of
:12:54. > :12:59.fronts, that will happen in time for the British referendum. Do you see
:13:00. > :13:03.that? I think it is unlikely we'll see major reform, particularly of
:13:04. > :13:10.the eurozone until after the French and Holland general elections in
:13:11. > :13:14.2017. The general sense is they want to take the British issues separate
:13:15. > :13:18.and so there is a hope that it is going to be possible to try to get
:13:19. > :13:21.this renegotiation done, reasonably early and easternly before the
:13:22. > :13:25.election period, in order then to move on to some of the eurozone
:13:26. > :13:29.issues which are going to be even harder than Cameron's negotiation.
:13:30. > :13:33.Thank you for joining us. When would you like the referendum?
:13:34. > :13:37.Would you like the referendum sooner rather than later? In other words in
:13:38. > :13:42.2016, rather than 2017? I'm happy we have it before the end of 2017,
:13:43. > :13:48.provided we... You have to have it before then Absolutely. I want it
:13:49. > :13:52.when we have done some negotiating. So, people who say we are in the
:13:53. > :13:56.asking for anything, obviously we are, because there is a lot of
:13:57. > :13:59.negotiating to go on. When we have concluded it, that's the time to
:14:00. > :14:02.have the referendum. So, do you accept that it is unlikely that this
:14:03. > :14:07.will be wound up in the December summit? That it is going to go into
:14:08. > :14:12.2016? I think it is quite likely. But, you never know. Where there is
:14:13. > :14:16.a will, there is a way, and I think there is a great desire to satisfy
:14:17. > :14:21.some of Britain's demands as soon as possible. As I say, if you've got
:14:22. > :14:26.20-odd Member States saying - we've got to reduce the burden of red
:14:27. > :14:30.tape. It is a very good start. But my understanding is that part of the
:14:31. > :14:35.British problem is getting the European's attention. Because they
:14:36. > :14:39.have so many other issues that they regard as being more important.
:14:40. > :14:43.Security, clearly out of Paris is a major one, and after what has been
:14:44. > :14:47.happening in Brussels as well and unresolved migration crisis as well.
:14:48. > :14:53.850,000 migrants have come into the European Union in the course of this
:14:54. > :14:57.year, so far. And so getting the British renegotiation demands up the
:14:58. > :15:01.agenda, when so much else is at stake, is difficult? Absolutely.
:15:02. > :15:07.This n itself to me is the Government's fault. We have had 40
:15:08. > :15:09.years of attempted reform. European Union which hasn't happened from
:15:10. > :15:13.successive Conservative and Labour Governments. David Cameron came to
:15:14. > :15:15.power on a promise he would renegotiate the terms of entry into
:15:16. > :15:19.the European Union. That was five-and-a-half years ago. He could
:15:20. > :15:23.have done that at a much I quoo etter time, getting on with T but
:15:24. > :15:26.what happens is he waits around, five-and-a-half years, presents his
:15:27. > :15:31.letter of demands that doesn't ask for anything that the British people
:15:32. > :15:36.actually want. For UK law to be supreme over EU law. For actual
:15:37. > :15:39.controls over the free movement of workers, so we have a right to
:15:40. > :15:42.decide who does and doesn't come into our country. Whether it is
:15:43. > :15:47.something on the finances. There is nothing of any real substance. The
:15:48. > :15:50.benefits issue is tinkering around the edges? It isn't. It is a
:15:51. > :15:54.question of fairness. I think that's the most important thing for the
:15:55. > :15:59.British people. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that people should
:16:00. > :16:03.come and work and contribute to the economy through their taxing before
:16:04. > :16:09.they benefit. That may be a fair principle but do you seriously think
:16:10. > :16:13.that would do much for EU migration, except perhaps at the edges? What is
:16:14. > :16:18.the evidence for that? Don't forget we actually welcome a certain amount
:16:19. > :16:22.of EU migration. If you look at the people that run our hospitals. If
:16:23. > :16:27.you look at the people that pick our fruit. I understand all that, but my
:16:28. > :16:31.question to you is - even if Mr Cameron gets what he is asking for,
:16:32. > :16:37.will it really reduce EU migration numbers by very much? I think it
:16:38. > :16:43.will certainly reduce the ones that see the advantages of Britain and
:16:44. > :16:47.think that if they come they will be looked after. We want the ones that
:16:48. > :16:48.will contribute. I understand that but surely the numbers won't go down
:16:49. > :16:57.because the reasons, putting the national
:16:58. > :17:01.minimum wage up to ?9. That's two or three times what the minimum wage
:17:02. > :17:04.could be or what you could hope to nern Romania and Bulgaria, even if
:17:05. > :17:08.you take away the welfare payments. Naturally they will come to a place
:17:09. > :17:12.where they can get a job and a decent minimum wage, aren't they?
:17:13. > :17:17.Don't forget. We are victims of our own success. We have seen growth. We
:17:18. > :17:22.have seen increasing wages. We have seen unemployment going down. We
:17:23. > :17:24.have more people employed in this country than ever. Sure. So
:17:25. > :17:29.obviously we are attractive. And it is fine to be attractive to people
:17:30. > :17:34.who want to come and have a job. We have 7 under,000 job vacancies. So
:17:35. > :17:38.you are arguing the case for open borders and not changing anything.
:17:39. > :17:43.I'm saying I'm in favour of freedom of movement to come and work. What
:17:44. > :17:47.I'm in the in favour of is people being able to come simply to claim
:17:48. > :17:52.benefit. What do you say? But surely you must understand this is what is
:17:53. > :17:56.leading to wage compression. In important communities in the UK,
:17:57. > :18:01.where you have a massive oversupply of unskilled labour, people coming
:18:02. > :18:05.into the UK, happy to do jobs on minimum wage. And driving wages
:18:06. > :18:12.downed. People previously being able to command a wage of ?10 to ?15 are
:18:13. > :18:16.struggling to get minimum wage. What is the economic evidence for that?
:18:17. > :18:21.The economic evidence intuitively makes sense, if you increase the
:18:22. > :18:26.supply of labour, wages at the other end will fau. It is hard to get
:18:27. > :18:32.economic evidence of that. It is about 3%. Real wages are rise being
:18:33. > :18:36.3%. I would say two things - come to my constituency in the north-east of
:18:37. > :18:40.England and talk to people who are saying exactly that is the problem.
:18:41. > :18:45.Secondly, my understanding is that for every 1% increase in population,
:18:46. > :18:51.with migration. You are talking about something in the region of o
:18:52. > :18:55.0.5% wage drop for the poorest 5% in society and that's something which
:18:56. > :19:01.is... How big has immigration been into the north-east? It is rising.
:19:02. > :19:06.We have... How big has it been? We have the census figures from 2011
:19:07. > :19:10.which show that at that Tim it was the lowest in the country but also,
:19:11. > :19:13.when you look later on and you look from than point, it seems we are
:19:14. > :19:17.having the biggest increase, compared with the number of migrants
:19:18. > :19:22.here already. But we also have the highest unemployment. So, a small
:19:23. > :19:26.increase in migration, in the north-east, has a disproportionate
:19:27. > :19:31.impact. Slightly different from the rest of the country in terms of...
:19:32. > :19:35.Thank you. What else has been happening in European politics in
:19:36. > :19:44.the last few days? Here's The Week in 60 seconds: On Monday David
:19:45. > :19:47.Cameron was in Paris with President Hollande visiting the Bataclan
:19:48. > :19:52.theatre where the worst of the terror attacks took place. The band
:19:53. > :19:58.playing at the time have vowed to return to the venue. Oi don't think
:19:59. > :20:03.any of us could have handled it without support of the kids that
:20:04. > :20:10.were there. Election o pour few gees elections should have been held over
:20:11. > :20:14.a month ago. The Prime Minister was named on Tuesday. Ending weeks of
:20:15. > :20:22.political stalemate. There are to be fresh talks on the possibility of
:20:23. > :20:25.Turkey joining the EU. It is said Turkey has agreed to enter a new
:20:26. > :20:30.chapter. And migrants are still arriving on
:20:31. > :20:34.the Greek island of Lesbos, undeterred by the worsening weather.
:20:35. > :20:40.2,000 people arrived on dinghies on Monday.
:20:41. > :20:45.Is there much of an appetite for Turkey to have a much-closer
:20:46. > :20:49.relationship with the EU? I can't see it at the moment. I don't think
:20:50. > :20:54.there is any appetite for enlargement. Obviously they are part
:20:55. > :20:56.of Nato. I think it is reasonable to maintain relations, encourage them
:20:57. > :21:00.in the right direction but I honestly can't see them scombroining
:21:01. > :21:04.Europe. What is your view? I can't see it happening at the moment. It
:21:05. > :21:07.does say something about Cameron's political judgment that him, and the
:21:08. > :21:12.Conservative Party, have always been in favour of Turkey joining and the
:21:13. > :21:16.free movement of workers that would inevitably entail, even if there
:21:17. > :21:20.were restrictions. Are you in favour, is it party politics? Not as
:21:21. > :21:24.far as I know. The idea that they are in Nato and should be encouraged
:21:25. > :21:27.along the path towards us, rather than pushing them away, I think is
:21:28. > :21:31.very important but there is no promise. All right.
:21:32. > :21:35.Now, our Adam has been off again on his travels. Today he is meeting the
:21:36. > :21:39.neighbours in Italy and finding out how the Government in Rome is
:21:40. > :21:49.financing the renovation of some of the city's most famous buildings.
:21:50. > :21:57.You come all the way to Italy and this happens. Oh, no. They are
:21:58. > :22:01.closed for refurbishment. Cash-strapped Rome is restoring
:22:02. > :22:07.loads of its monuments and getting Italian luxury brands to pay for T
:22:08. > :22:18.the Spanish Stepped, saved by Bulgari. The Trevi Fountain, tarted
:22:19. > :22:22.up by Fend I shall and I'm scaling the granddaddy of them all, the
:22:23. > :22:30.Coliseum. It is getting a makeover paid by the shoe company, Todss.
:22:31. > :22:35.These are being filled in here, with this special concrete. It is about
:22:36. > :22:43.making it look nicer and stopping it falling down. It is low-tech for a
:22:44. > :22:46.reason. It is a very soft way of cleaning, in order to conserve
:22:47. > :22:50.so-called patina, something which something brought from the years
:22:51. > :22:53.past and the cleaning is only to remove the elements which are
:22:54. > :22:59.dangerous for the conservation of the material. You don't want it to
:23:00. > :23:05.look too new No, absolutely not. Next they'll refurbish the Arena and
:23:06. > :23:09.build a new visitors' centre for the 6 million tourists who come here
:23:10. > :23:13.every year. . This is one repair job. What about the much bigger with
:23:14. > :23:18.one being done on the entire eye fallian state and the economy by the
:23:19. > :23:22.Prime Minister, Matteo Renzi. The former Mayor of Florence is Italy's
:23:23. > :23:26.youngest-ever PM. He has voe duesed the so-called jobs act which makes
:23:27. > :23:29.it easier for firms to hire young workers and rewritten the
:23:30. > :23:32.constitution to make it easier for a party to get a majority in
:23:33. > :23:36.Parliamenter Parliament. His argument is that it'll bring
:23:37. > :23:42.much-needed stability to politics here 'S gay who has an extremely
:23:43. > :23:53.strong, almoster if physical personality. This is basically
:23:54. > :23:59.Italy's female Andrew kneel. -- Andrew Neil. The Italians feel left
:24:00. > :24:04.out. They feel they have come back on themselves. They feel they are
:24:05. > :24:08.not the last ones of Europe. As far as government goes, I have many
:24:09. > :24:16.reservations. What about Italy's other political big beasts? The
:24:17. > :24:24.comedian, Beppe Grillo? His left-wing grassroots movement, Five
:24:25. > :24:29.Tar or Cinque Stelle is now the opposition. Luigi Di Maio is set to
:24:30. > :24:35.take over. We said we wouldn't let anyone who
:24:36. > :24:39.has a criminal record to stand for our party and at all levels, local,
:24:40. > :24:44.national, we have taken pay cuts so the money can be used to give loans
:24:45. > :24:46.to old businesses. We don't want to change because we don't want to be
:24:47. > :24:51.an old-fashioned Politkovskayaical force. Italy is not on the verge of
:24:52. > :24:55.crumbling as it appeared on the eurozone crisis. But economic growth
:24:56. > :25:00.is slow and Government death is, well, colossal. Can a new generation
:25:01. > :25:04.of politicses do more than just patch the country up?
:25:05. > :25:08.Well, the Italian Government has no money, the luxury goods company have
:25:09. > :25:14.lots. I guess that's the only way to go if they want to save their
:25:15. > :25:17.historic monuments? Italy is a wonderful country for holiday, but
:25:18. > :25:21.over-taxed, over-regulated. I wouldn't want to try to run a
:25:22. > :25:28.business. Do you think we should get luxury companies to look after our
:25:29. > :25:34.historic monuments. We have to look at what lane's disastrous PFI did to
:25:35. > :25:39.the NHS. I'm not sure it is a FPI initiative. Yes but it shows, that
:25:40. > :25:42.companies getting too close can be a problem. Would you like to see how
:25:43. > :25:47.they are renovating these monuments now? It looks like a good job It
:25:48. > :25:53.does. It looks wonderful that they are being able to do something. I
:25:54. > :26:02.don't hold out much hope for Grillo. That's it from Politics Europe.
:26:03. > :26:09.Thanks to our ME. Ps. -- MEPs, see you soon.
:26:10. > :26:12.A stormy start to the northern half of the