:00:17. > :00:19.A warm welcome to the Scottish A warm welcome to the Scottish
:00:19. > :00:23.Parliament here at Holyrood, where Parliament here at Holyrood, where
:00:23. > :00:27.Parliament here at Holyrood, where they're talking money. The Monday
:00:27. > :00:28.they're talking money. The Monday they're talking money. The Monday
:00:28. > :00:29.they're talking money. The Monday topic is future -- the Big Topic is
:00:29. > :00:31.topic is future -- the Big Topic is topic is future -- the Big Topic is
:00:31. > :00:32.future spending. We have a report future spending. We have a report
:00:32. > :00:33.future spending. We have a report United suggesting now Scotland is
:00:34. > :00:34.United suggesting now Scotland is United suggesting now Scotland is
:00:34. > :00:36.doing relatively better than the doing relatively better than the
:00:36. > :00:37.doing relatively better than the doing relatively better than the
:00:37. > :00:38.rest of the UK. Still a deficit, but rest of the UK. Still a deficit, but
:00:38. > :00:39.rest of the UK. Still a deficit, but rest of the UK. Still a deficit, but
:00:39. > :00:40.rest of the UK. Still a deficit, but not as bad as the rest of the UK.
:00:40. > :00:41.not as bad as the rest of the UK. not as bad as the rest of the UK.
:00:41. > :00:44.not as bad as the rest of the UK. And a leaked paper setting out views
:00:44. > :00:47.And a leaked paper setting out views And a leaked paper setting out views
:00:47. > :00:49.from John Swinney on future from John Swinney on future
:00:49. > :00:51.prospects. Fairly gloomy prospects prospects. Fairly gloomy prospects
:00:51. > :00:53.prospects. Fairly gloomy prospects for Scottish ex-pepped CHUR. Any or
:00:53. > :00:55.for Scottish ex-pepped CHUR. Any or for Scottish ex-pepped CHUR. Any or
:00:55. > :00:56.for Scottish ex-pepped CHUR. Any or -- expenditure. Any or all of those
:00:56. > :00:57.-- expenditure. Any or all of those -- expenditure. Any or all of those
:00:57. > :00:58.-- expenditure. Any or all of those topics could come up in questions to
:00:58. > :00:59.topics could come up in questions to topics could come up in questions to
:00:59. > :01:02.the First Minister. Let's find out the First Minister. Let's find out
:01:02. > :01:03.the First Minister. Let's find out with my colleague, Glenn Campbell.
:01:03. > :01:05.with my colleague, Glenn Campbell. with my colleague, Glenn Campbell.
:01:05. > :01:06.The Justice Secretary is finishing The Justice Secretary is finishing
:01:06. > :01:08.The Justice Secretary is finishing an answer about women offenders. Now
:01:08. > :01:10.an answer about women offenders. Now an answer about women offenders. Now
:01:10. > :01:12.an answer about women offenders. Now time for the main event of the week.
:01:12. > :01:14.time for the main event of the week. time for the main event of the week.
:01:14. > :01:15.To ask what engagements he has To ask what engagements he has
:01:15. > :01:16.To ask what engagements he has To ask what engagements he has
:01:16. > :01:19.MRAPed. I will have meetings to take MRAPed. I will have meetings to take
:01:19. > :01:20.forward the Government's programme forward the Government's programme
:01:20. > :01:21.forward the Government's programme for Scotland. Thank you. John
:01:21. > :01:23.for Scotland. Thank you. John for Scotland. Thank you. John
:01:23. > :01:25.Swinney told the cabinet in private Swinney told the cabinet in private
:01:25. > :01:27.Swinney told the cabinet in private Swinney told the cabinet in private
:01:27. > :01:29.that the volatility of the price of that the volatility of the price of
:01:29. > :01:31.that the volatility of the price of oil and creates uncertainty in
:01:31. > :01:32.oil and creates uncertainty in project ing Scotland's fiscal
:01:32. > :01:33.project ing Scotland's fiscal project ing Scotland's fiscal
:01:33. > :01:36.project ing Scotland's fiscal position. When was he going to share
:01:36. > :01:37.position. When was he going to share position. When was he going to share
:01:37. > :01:38.that with the Scottish public? that with the Scottish public?
:01:38. > :01:40.that with the Scottish public? John Swinney pointed out is the
:01:40. > :01:41.John Swinney pointed out is the opportunities for Scotland having
:01:41. > :01:44.opportunities for Scotland having opportunities for Scotland having
:01:44. > :01:46.control of its own natural resources control of its own natural resources
:01:46. > :01:50.control of its own natural resources will allow us to transform the
:01:50. > :01:53.will allow us to transform the will allow us to transform the
:01:53. > :01:54.Scottish economy and society. Scottish economy and society.
:01:54. > :01:55.absolutely astonished. It would absolutely astonished. It would
:01:55. > :01:57.absolutely astonished. It would appear the First Minister has not
:01:57. > :02:00.appear the First Minister has not appear the First Minister has not
:02:00. > :02:02.appear the First Minister has not even read the document that his own
:02:02. > :02:03.even read the document that his own even read the document that his own
:02:03. > :02:04.Finance Secretary wrote. Or maybe he Finance Secretary wrote. Or maybe he
:02:04. > :02:06.simply wasn't paying attention, simply wasn't paying attention,
:02:06. > :02:07.simply wasn't paying attention, simply wasn't paying attention,
:02:07. > :02:08.because it didn't say what he wanted because it didn't say what he wanted
:02:08. > :02:10.because it didn't say what he wanted because it didn't say what he wanted
:02:10. > :02:13.it to say. When I called for a it to say. When I called for a
:02:13. > :02:14.it to say. When I called for a debate in facing unto spending and
:02:14. > :02:16.debate in facing unto spending and debate in facing unto spending and
:02:16. > :02:17.services, the First Minister derided services, the First Minister derided
:02:17. > :02:19.services, the First Minister derided services, the First Minister derided
:02:19. > :02:20.me. Order. Let's here the -- hear me. Order. Let's here the -- hear
:02:20. > :02:22.me. Order. Let's here the -- hear the member please. You're not opt
:02:22. > :02:23.the member please. You're not opt the member please. You're not opt
:02:23. > :02:25.the member please. You're not opt best of grounds on this. When I
:02:25. > :02:26.best of grounds on this. When I best of grounds on this. When I
:02:26. > :02:27.best of grounds on this. When I called for a debate on facing up to
:02:27. > :02:29.called for a debate on facing up to long-term spending, the First
:02:29. > :02:31.long-term spending, the First long-term spending, the First
:02:31. > :02:33.Minister derided me. Now, we find Minister derided me. Now, we find
:02:33. > :02:35.Minister derided me. Now, we find Minister derided me. Now, we find
:02:35. > :02:39.while I was talking about how we while I was talking about how we
:02:39. > :02:41.saved services, John Swinney... saved services, John Swinney...
:02:41. > :02:43.saved services, John Swinney... saved services, John Swinney...
:02:43. > :02:46.Order. I think the noise is inverse Order. I think the noise is inverse
:02:46. > :02:56.Order. I think the noise is inverse proportion to the confidence in
:02:56. > :02:56.
:02:56. > :05:51.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 174 seconds
:05:51. > :05:52.proportion to the confidence in proportion to the confidence in
:05:52. > :05:55.their own Finance Secretary. Let's their own Finance Secretary. Let's
:05:55. > :05:57.their own Finance Secretary. Let's their own Finance Secretary. Let's
:05:57. > :05:58.see if we can get honesty with the see if we can get honesty with the
:05:58. > :05:59.see if we can get honesty with the troops. The decision to renege on
:05:59. > :06:00.troops. The decision to renege on troops. The decision to renege on
:06:00. > :06:01.the promise to Scottish troops the promise to Scottish troops
:06:01. > :06:02.the promise to Scottish troops serving abroad that they would come
:06:02. > :06:05.serving abroad that they would come serving abroad that they would come
:06:05. > :06:06.serving abroad that they would come home was a blow. We can both agree
:06:06. > :06:07.home was a blow. We can both agree home was a blow. We can both agree
:06:07. > :06:09.on that. The deputy First Minister on that. The deputy First Minister
:06:09. > :06:09.on that. The deputy First Minister on that. The deputy First Minister
:06:09. > :06:11.described it as an act of betrayal. described it as an act of betrayal.
:06:11. > :06:13.described it as an act of betrayal. described it as an act of betrayal.
:06:13. > :06:14.described it as an act of betrayal. We can agree on that too. How to you
:06:14. > :06:15.We can agree on that too. How to you We can agree on that too. How to you
:06:15. > :06:16.describe the revelations in this describe the revelations in this
:06:16. > :06:18.describe the revelations in this leaked paper that rather than
:06:18. > :06:20.leaked paper that rather than leaked paper that rather than
:06:20. > :06:22.increase the size of our armed increase the size of our armed
:06:22. > :06:23.increase the size of our armed increase the size of our armed
:06:23. > :06:25.forces the SNP has made clear to the forces the SNP has made clear to the
:06:25. > :06:30.forces the SNP has made clear to the defence work streams that a much
:06:30. > :06:32.defence work streams that a much defence work streams that a much
:06:32. > :06:33.lower budget must be assumed. So lower budget must be assumed. So
:06:33. > :06:34.lower budget must be assumed. So lower budget must be assumed. So
:06:34. > :06:36.again should we now assume it will again should we now assume it will
:06:36. > :06:37.again should we now assume it will again should we now assume it will
:06:37. > :06:38.be a much lower budget and the be a much lower budget and the
:06:38. > :06:41.be a much lower budget and the deputy First Minister was being
:06:42. > :06:42.deputy First Minister was being deputy First Minister was being
:06:42. > :06:44.dishonest with the troops? Well dishonest with the troops? Well
:06:44. > :06:45.dishonest with the troops? Well dishonest with the troops? Well
:06:45. > :06:47.first I quoted from the document and first I quoted from the document and
:06:47. > :06:48.first I quoted from the document and I did so to indicate the
:06:48. > :06:50.I did so to indicate the misrepresentation of the better
:06:50. > :06:54.misrepresentation of the better misrepresentation of the better
:06:54. > :06:55.together campaign. I pointed out the together campaign. I pointed out the
:06:55. > :06:57.together campaign. I pointed out the document project ing growth was
:06:57. > :06:58.document project ing growth was document project ing growth was
:06:58. > :06:59.described by Johann Lamont as cuts. described by Johann Lamont as cuts.
:06:59. > :07:00.described by Johann Lamont as cuts. described by Johann Lamont as cuts.
:07:00. > :07:03.That is not true. Let's turn to the That is not true. Let's turn to the
:07:03. > :07:04.That is not true. Let's turn to the issue of defence. The issue of
:07:04. > :07:06.issue of defence. The issue of defence indicates exactly why
:07:06. > :07:08.defence indicates exactly why defence indicates exactly why
:07:08. > :07:12.Scotland should have the fiscal Scotland should have the fiscal
:07:12. > :07:14.freedom that independence will freedom that independence will
:07:14. > :07:15.freedom that independence will bring. First currently over �3
:07:15. > :07:17.bring. First currently over �3 bring. First currently over �3
:07:17. > :07:19.billion is allocated to Scotland as billion is allocated to Scotland as
:07:19. > :07:21.billion is allocated to Scotland as our contribution to the UK defence
:07:21. > :07:24.our contribution to the UK defence our contribution to the UK defence
:07:24. > :07:26.our contribution to the UK defence forces. But only �2 billion is spent
:07:26. > :07:27.forces. But only �2 billion is spent forces. But only �2 billion is spent
:07:27. > :07:28.in Scotland. Instead of the 6,000 in Scotland. Instead of the 6,000
:07:29. > :07:30.in Scotland. Instead of the 6,000 additional troops that Scotland was
:07:30. > :07:32.additional troops that Scotland was additional troops that Scotland was
:07:32. > :07:33.promised, we are being offered 600 promised, we are being offered 600
:07:33. > :07:34.promised, we are being offered 600 promised, we are being offered 600
:07:34. > :07:35.or less in terms of the calculation. or less in terms of the calculation.
:07:35. > :07:36.or less in terms of the calculation. Because Scotland only gets a
:07:36. > :07:39.Because Scotland only gets a Because Scotland only gets a
:07:39. > :07:42.Because Scotland only gets a fraction of what we pay for in
:07:42. > :07:42.fraction of what we pay for in fraction of what we pay for in
:07:43. > :07:44.defence. Except when it comes to defence. Except when it comes to
:07:44. > :07:45.defence. Except when it comes to weapons of mass destruction. When it
:07:45. > :07:46.weapons of mass destruction. When it weapons of mass destruction. When it
:07:46. > :07:47.comes to weapons of mass comes to weapons of mass
:07:47. > :07:49.destruction, we don't get destruction, we don't get
:07:49. > :07:50.underrepresented, we get Jove underrepresented, we get Jove
:07:50. > :07:51.underrepresented, we get Jove represented in Scotland and in fact
:07:52. > :07:53.represented in Scotland and in fact represented in Scotland and in fact
:07:53. > :07:53.represented in Scotland and in fact we get all of the UK's weapons of
:07:53. > :07:55.we get all of the UK's weapons of we get all of the UK's weapons of
:07:55. > :07:56.we get all of the UK's weapons of mass destruction. That is why I find
:07:56. > :07:58.mass destruction. That is why I find mass destruction. That is why I find
:07:58. > :07:59.it extraordinary that a Labour Party it extraordinary that a Labour Party
:07:59. > :08:00.it extraordinary that a Labour Party whose defence spokesman on the radio
:08:00. > :08:01.whose defence spokesman on the radio whose defence spokesman on the radio
:08:01. > :08:02.whose defence spokesman on the radio couldn't tell us how many troops the
:08:02. > :08:04.couldn't tell us how many troops the couldn't tell us how many troops the
:08:04. > :08:05.Labour Party would want to station Labour Party would want to station
:08:05. > :08:06.Labour Party would want to station Labour Party would want to station
:08:06. > :08:09.in Scotland, but can tell us how in Scotland, but can tell us how
:08:09. > :08:15.in Scotland, but can tell us how many nuclear missiles they want to
:08:15. > :08:16.many nuclear missiles they want to many nuclear missiles they want to
:08:16. > :08:17.station in Scotland. It is station in Scotland. It is
:08:17. > :08:20.station in Scotland. It is astonishing what a difference a day
:08:20. > :08:22.astonishing what a difference a day astonishing what a difference a day
:08:22. > :08:23.makes. Yesterday, this was the first makes. Yesterday, this was the first
:08:23. > :08:25.makes. Yesterday, this was the first draft of a discussion document. Now
:08:25. > :08:26.draft of a discussion document. Now draft of a discussion document. Now
:08:26. > :08:28.it turns out the document confirms it turns out the document confirms
:08:28. > :08:30.it turns out the document confirms the First Minister's land of milk
:08:30. > :08:31.the First Minister's land of milk the First Minister's land of milk
:08:31. > :08:33.and honey under independence. It and honey under independence. It
:08:33. > :08:36.and honey under independence. It can't possibly be both. Because in
:08:36. > :08:37.can't possibly be both. Because in can't possibly be both. Because in
:08:37. > :08:37.private, John Swinney says that private, John Swinney says that
:08:38. > :08:39.private, John Swinney says that after separation interest in our
:08:39. > :08:42.after separation interest in our after separation interest in our
:08:42. > :08:44.debt will be a significant feature debt will be a significant feature
:08:44. > :08:45.debt will be a significant feature of Scotland's budget. In private,
:08:45. > :08:47.of Scotland's budget. In private, of Scotland's budget. In private,
:08:47. > :08:48.of Scotland's budget. In private, they have read it you might not have
:08:48. > :08:49.they have read it you might not have they have read it you might not have
:08:49. > :08:51.they have read it you might not have heard this! In fact I know you won't
:08:51. > :08:53.heard this! In fact I know you won't heard this! In fact I know you won't
:08:53. > :08:54.heard this! In fact I know you won't have heard it. Order.In private, he
:08:54. > :08:55.have heard it. Order.In private, he have heard it. Order.In private, he
:08:55. > :08:56.admits after separation what we admits after separation what we
:08:56. > :08:57.admits after separation what we admits after separation what we
:08:57. > :08:59.spend will have to in line with spend will have to in line with
:08:59. > :08:59.spend will have to in line with spend will have to in line with
:09:00. > :09:02.policy set by a foreign bank, that policy set by a foreign bank, that
:09:02. > :09:04.policy set by a foreign bank, that policy set by a foreign bank, that
:09:04. > :09:06.of the rest of the United Kingdom. of the rest of the United Kingdom.
:09:06. > :09:07.of the rest of the United Kingdom. of the rest of the United Kingdom.
:09:07. > :09:09.In private, John Swinney asked for a In private, John Swinney asked for a
:09:09. > :09:10.In private, John Swinney asked for a In private, John Swinney asked for a
:09:10. > :09:11.study into something as basic as the study into something as basic as the
:09:11. > :09:14.study into something as basic as the affordability of a state pension in
:09:14. > :09:15.affordability of a state pension in affordability of a state pension in
:09:15. > :09:17.a separate Scotland. In public, he a separate Scotland. In public, he
:09:17. > :09:19.a separate Scotland. In public, he says anyone who raises the same
:09:19. > :09:20.says anyone who raises the same says anyone who raises the same
:09:20. > :09:20.questions is talking Scotland down. questions is talking Scotland down.
:09:21. > :09:22.questions is talking Scotland down. questions is talking Scotland down.
:09:22. > :09:23.We have heard a lot of numbers from We have heard a lot of numbers from
:09:23. > :09:26.We have heard a lot of numbers from the First Minister today, but the
:09:26. > :09:27.the First Minister today, but the the First Minister today, but the
:09:27. > :09:28.real deficit that should be worry real deficit that should be worry
:09:28. > :09:29.real deficit that should be worry real deficit that should be worry
:09:29. > :09:30.ing Scots is the one between what ing Scots is the one between what
:09:30. > :09:31.ing Scots is the one between what the First Minister says in private
:09:31. > :09:35.the First Minister says in private the First Minister says in private
:09:35. > :09:37.the First Minister says in private and what he says in public. Isn't it
:09:37. > :09:39.and what he says in public. Isn't it and what he says in public. Isn't it
:09:39. > :09:41.and what he says in public. Isn't it the case that what in public the SNP
:09:41. > :09:43.the case that what in public the SNP the case that what in public the SNP
:09:43. > :09:47.claim is scaremongering in private claim is scaremongering in private
:09:47. > :09:48.claim is scaremongering in private they agree is the truth.
:09:48. > :09:50.they agree is the truth. they agree is the truth.
:09:50. > :09:53.projections were sent out last year projections were sent out last year
:09:53. > :09:57.projections were sent out last year projections were sent out last year
:09:57. > :09:58.at �2. 5 billion as a public at �2. 5 billion as a public
:09:58. > :10:08.at �2. 5 billion as a public statement. The working group, I
:10:08. > :10:08.
:10:08. > :11:45.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 174 seconds
:11:45. > :11:46.statement. The working group, I statement. The working group, I
:11:46. > :11:47.brought To ask the First Minister brought To ask the First Minister
:11:47. > :11:48.brought To ask the First Minister brought To ask the First Minister
:11:49. > :11:50.when he will meet the Secretary of when he will meet the Secretary of
:11:50. > :11:52.when he will meet the Secretary of when he will meet the Secretary of
:11:52. > :11:53.State. No plans in the near future. State. No plans in the near future.
:11:54. > :11:54.State. No plans in the near future. Let's stick with this First
:11:54. > :11:55.Let's stick with this First Let's stick with this First
:11:55. > :11:56.Minister's seeming inability to be Minister's seeming inability to be
:11:56. > :11:57.Minister's seeming inability to be straight with the people of Scotland
:11:57. > :11:58.straight with the people of Scotland straight with the people of Scotland
:11:58. > :12:00.straight with the people of Scotland and what he knows to be true in
:12:00. > :12:01.and what he knows to be true in and what he knows to be true in
:12:01. > :12:03.private. Because this First Minister private. Because this First Minister
:12:03. > :12:05.private. Because this First Minister says that an independent Scotland
:12:05. > :12:06.says that an independent Scotland will deliver universal benefits,
:12:06. > :12:07.will deliver universal benefits, will deliver universal benefits,
:12:07. > :12:08.have well funded public services and have well funded public services and
:12:08. > :12:09.have well funded public services and have well funded public services and
:12:09. > :12:13.have well funded public services and all of it will be paid for by oil,
:12:13. > :12:17.all of it will be paid for by oil, all of it will be paid for by oil,
:12:17. > :12:19.the resource he has extolled. the resource he has extolled.
:12:19. > :12:19.However... Order.John Swinney's However... Order.John Swinney's
:12:19. > :12:23.However... Order.John Swinney's document states that oil receipts
:12:23. > :12:24.document states that oil receipts document states that oil receipts
:12:24. > :12:26.document states that oil receipts will fall by 50% between 2011 and
:12:26. > :12:27.will fall by 50% between 2011 and will fall by 50% between 2011 and
:12:27. > :12:29.2016. He says that these forecasts 2016. He says that these forecasts
:12:29. > :12:32.2016. He says that these forecasts have not been challenged by the
:12:32. > :12:37.have not been challenged by the industry or by independent
:12:37. > :12:38.industry or by independent industry or by independent
:12:38. > :12:40.commentators. So the oil money will commentators. So the oil money will
:12:40. > :12:41.commentators. So the oil money will commentators. So the oil money will
:12:41. > :12:43.will half. He says there will be a will half. He says there will be a
:12:43. > :12:45.will half. He says there will be a down ward revision in public
:12:45. > :12:46.down ward revision in public down ward revision in public
:12:46. > :12:48.spending. So this document that has spending. So this document that has
:12:48. > :12:49.spending. So this document that has spending. So this document that has
:12:49. > :12:49.been extol ed by the First Minister been extol ed by the First Minister
:12:49. > :12:51.been extol ed by the First Minister shows an independent Scotland would
:12:51. > :12:52.shows an independent Scotland would shows an independent Scotland would
:12:52. > :12:53.shows an independent Scotland would have half the oil money, double the
:12:53. > :12:54.have half the oil money, double the have half the oil money, double the
:12:54. > :12:56.deficit and it would be ordinary deficit and it would be ordinary
:12:56. > :12:57.deficit and it would be ordinary deficit and it would be ordinary
:12:57. > :12:58.deficit and it would be ordinary Scots who pay for it all. So I ask
:12:58. > :12:59.Scots who pay for it all. So I ask Scots who pay for it all. So I ask
:12:59. > :13:00.Scots who pay for it all. So I ask the First Minister why has none of
:13:00. > :13:05.the First Minister why has none of the First Minister why has none of
:13:05. > :13:07.the First Minister why has none of this, none of this ever been said in
:13:07. > :13:09.this, none of this ever been said in this, none of this ever been said in
:13:09. > :13:10.this, none of this ever been said in public before? Well the last week at
:13:10. > :13:11.public before? Well the last week at public before? Well the last week at
:13:11. > :13:12.First Minister's questions and I First Minister's questions and I
:13:12. > :13:14.First Minister's questions and I think Ruth Davidson was here, I
:13:14. > :13:15.think Ruth Davidson was here, I think Ruth Davidson was here, I
:13:15. > :13:17.pointed out the implications to this pointed out the implications to this
:13:17. > :13:19.pointed out the implications to this chamber of the surging, the record
:13:19. > :13:20.chamber of the surging, the record chamber of the surging, the record
:13:20. > :13:23.surging of investment in North Sea surging of investment in North Sea
:13:23. > :13:24.surging of investment in North Sea surging of investment in North Sea
:13:24. > :13:25.oil and gas. I pointed out the oil and gas. I pointed out the
:13:25. > :13:26.oil and gas. I pointed out the industry projections and what that
:13:26. > :13:27.industry projections and what that industry projections and what that
:13:27. > :13:28.industry projections and what that would mean for oil and gas revenues.
:13:28. > :13:29.would mean for oil and gas revenues. would mean for oil and gas revenues.
:13:29. > :13:30.would mean for oil and gas revenues. Perhaps can I read them out. Because
:13:30. > :13:31.Perhaps can I read them out. Because Perhaps can I read them out. Because
:13:31. > :13:33.Perhaps can I read them out. Because this says what has happened over the
:13:33. > :13:34.this says what has happened over the this says what has happened over the
:13:34. > :13:34.this says what has happened over the last year. I know that Ruth Davidson
:13:34. > :13:36.last year. I know that Ruth Davidson last year. I know that Ruth Davidson
:13:36. > :13:37.last year. I know that Ruth Davidson must be aware that we now have a
:13:37. > :13:38.must be aware that we now have a must be aware that we now have a
:13:38. > :13:42.record level of investment in the record level of investment in the
:13:42. > :13:43.record level of investment in the record level of investment in the
:13:43. > :13:45.North Sea. I quote from the press North Sea. I quote from the press
:13:45. > :13:46.North Sea. I quote from the press North Sea. I quote from the press
:13:46. > :13:47.release. As a result of high ear in release. As a result of high ear in
:13:47. > :13:49.release. As a result of high ear in vestment thousands of jobs are being
:13:49. > :13:50.vestment thousands of jobs are being vestment thousands of jobs are being
:13:50. > :13:51.created, the production of oil and created, the production of oil and
:13:51. > :13:53.created, the production of oil and created, the production of oil and
:13:53. > :13:55.gas and tax rev NUFs can now gas and tax rev NUFs can now
:13:55. > :13:57.gas and tax rev NUFs can now confidently be expected to rise over
:13:57. > :14:07.confidently be expected to rise over confidently be expected to rise over
:14:07. > :14:07.
:14:07. > :16:33.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 174 seconds
:16:33. > :16:33.the coming years. Because of that the coming years. Because of that
:16:33. > :16:37.the coming years. Because of that record investment, Ruth Davidson has
:16:37. > :16:39.record investment, Ruth Davidson has record investment, Ruth Davidson has
:16:39. > :16:41.said the OBR hasn't been challenged. said the OBR hasn't been challenged.
:16:41. > :16:43.said the OBR hasn't been challenged. said the OBR hasn't been challenged.
:16:43. > :16:44.But UK oil and gas represent the But UK oil and gas represent the
:16:44. > :16:45.But UK oil and gas represent the industries. Why have they invested
:16:45. > :16:46.industries. Why have they invested industries. Why have they invested
:16:46. > :16:48.industries. Why have they invested �13 billion over the last year in
:16:48. > :16:49.�13 billion over the last year in �13 billion over the last year in
:16:49. > :16:52.�13 billion over the last year in North Sea oil and gas? Because they
:16:52. > :16:55.North Sea oil and gas? Because they North Sea oil and gas? Because they
:16:55. > :16:57.believe that will leave to increased believe that will leave to increased
:16:57. > :16:58.production and increased revenues. production and increased revenues.
:16:58. > :17:02.production and increased revenues. The question is which exchequer is
:17:02. > :17:03.The question is which exchequer is The question is which exchequer is
:17:03. > :17:04.going to get these increases? Under going to get these increases? Under
:17:05. > :17:06.going to get these increases? Under the formulation of Ruth Davidson and
:17:06. > :17:07.the formulation of Ruth Davidson and the formulation of Ruth Davidson and
:17:07. > :17:09.her colleagues, Scotland will get her colleagues, Scotland will get
:17:09. > :17:10.her colleagues, Scotland will get the cuts, the wealthier cuts coming
:17:10. > :17:11.the cuts, the wealthier cuts coming the cuts, the wealthier cuts coming
:17:11. > :17:13.the cuts, the wealthier cuts coming in, the cuts in public spending, but
:17:13. > :17:14.in, the cuts in public spending, but in, the cuts in public spending, but
:17:14. > :17:15.London will get the increased London will get the increased
:17:15. > :17:16.London will get the increased London will get the increased
:17:16. > :17:18.revenues. Just as they have for the revenues. Just as they have for the
:17:18. > :17:19.revenues. Just as they have for the revenues. Just as they have for the
:17:19. > :17:20.last 40 years. For 40 years we have last 40 years. For 40 years we have
:17:20. > :17:21.last 40 years. For 40 years we have had Tory politicians telling us that
:17:21. > :17:22.had Tory politicians telling us that had Tory politicians telling us that
:17:22. > :17:23.had Tory politicians telling us that north Sea oil and gas is running out
:17:24. > :17:25.north Sea oil and gas is running out north Sea oil and gas is running out
:17:25. > :17:26.north Sea oil and gas is running out north Sea oil and gas is running out
:17:26. > :17:27.and we now have the Ed that the next and we now have the Ed that the next
:17:27. > :17:29.and we now have the Ed that the next 40 years will have greater value
:17:29. > :17:30.40 years will have greater value 40 years will have greater value
:17:30. > :17:32.40 years will have greater value than the last 40 years. We are going
:17:32. > :17:33.than the last 40 years. We are going than the last 40 years. We are going
:17:33. > :17:34.than the last 40 years. We are going to make sure having London have its
:17:34. > :17:40.to make sure having London have its to make sure having London have its
:17:40. > :17:50.to make sure having London have its turn the next 40 clears will be
:17:50. > :17:50.
:17:50. > :18:33.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 174 seconds
:18:33. > :18:36.We have been doing all we can to We have been doing all we can to
:18:36. > :18:37.We have been doing all we can to help. We can't to do everything to
:18:37. > :18:39.help. We can't to do everything to help. We can't to do everything to
:18:39. > :18:42.maintain operations. Of course we maintain operations. Of course we
:18:42. > :18:43.maintain operations. Of course we will preside for support for
:18:43. > :18:44.will preside for support for will preside for support for
:18:44. > :18:45.employees facing redundancy and you employees facing redundancy and you
:18:45. > :18:46.employees facing redundancy and you employees facing redundancy and you
:18:46. > :18:47.can be sure this will be a key can be sure this will be a key
:18:47. > :18:48.can be sure this will be a key can be sure this will be a key
:18:48. > :18:55.concern of Government as we try to concern of Government as we try to
:18:55. > :18:57.concern of Government as we try to do our best for the employees
:18:57. > :18:58.do our best for the employees do our best for the employees
:18:58. > :19:00.affected. What will be discuss at affected. What will be discuss at
:19:00. > :19:02.affected. What will be discuss at the cabinet meeting. Issues of
:19:02. > :19:05.the cabinet meeting. Issues of the cabinet meeting. Issues of
:19:05. > :19:06.important to people of Scotland. important to people of Scotland.
:19:06. > :19:08.important to people of Scotland. important to people of Scotland.
:19:08. > :19:09.know what they think. In private, he know what they think. In private, he
:19:09. > :19:12.know what they think. In private, he is a pessimist. On oil, they're
:19:12. > :19:13.is a pessimist. On oil, they're is a pessimist. On oil, they're
:19:13. > :19:15.worried. On public service jobs worried. On public service jobs
:19:15. > :19:19.worried. On public service jobs they're alarmed and on pensions
:19:19. > :19:20.they're alarmed and on pensions they're alarmed and on pensions
:19:20. > :19:22.they're panicking. On these three they're panicking. On these three
:19:22. > :19:23.they're panicking. On these three challenges, identified by his own
:19:23. > :19:25.challenges, identified by his own challenges, identified by his own
:19:25. > :19:30.Finance Secretary, which keeps the Finance Secretary, which keeps the
:19:30. > :19:32.Finance Secretary, which keeps the First Minister awake at night.
:19:32. > :19:33.First Minister awake at night. First Minister awake at night.
:19:33. > :19:34.First Minister awake at night. doesn't keep me awake having to face
:19:34. > :19:35.doesn't keep me awake having to face doesn't keep me awake having to face
:19:35. > :19:37.Charles Rennie Mackintosh. I sleep Charles Rennie Mackintosh. I sleep
:19:37. > :19:38.Charles Rennie Mackintosh. I sleep Charles Rennie Mackintosh. I sleep
:19:38. > :19:38.soundly. But I woke up this morning soundly. But I woke up this morning
:19:38. > :19:39.soundly. But I woke up this morning to hear Charles Rennie Mackintosh on
:19:39. > :19:40.to hear Charles Rennie Mackintosh on to hear Charles Rennie Mackintosh on
:19:40. > :19:41.to hear Charles Rennie Mackintosh on the radio. If he said it once he
:19:41. > :19:46.the radio. If he said it once he the radio. If he said it once he
:19:46. > :19:47.the radio. If he said it once he must have said it half a dozen times
:19:47. > :19:49.must have said it half a dozen times must have said it half a dozen times
:19:49. > :19:50.that oil was running out. Their that oil was running out. Their
:19:50. > :19:53.that oil was running out. Their arguments as to why oil production
:19:53. > :19:54.arguments as to why oil production arguments as to why oil production
:19:54. > :19:55.arguments as to why oil production and gas production is going back to
:19:55. > :19:56.and gas production is going back to and gas production is going back to
:19:56. > :19:58.and gas production is going back to two billion barrels a day and rev
:19:58. > :19:58.two billion barrels a day and rev two billion barrels a day and rev
:19:58. > :20:00.two billion barrels a day and rev news will be rising result as a
:20:00. > :20:01.news will be rising result as a news will be rising result as a
:20:01. > :20:02.result of investment, perhaps he result of investment, perhaps he
:20:02. > :20:04.result of investment, perhaps he result of investment, perhaps he
:20:04. > :20:05.will next time he is on the radio will next time he is on the radio
:20:05. > :20:08.will next time he is on the radio will next time he is on the radio
:20:08. > :20:10.won't keep me awake by going through won't keep me awake by going through
:20:10. > :20:11.won't keep me awake by going through the familiar routine we have heard
:20:11. > :20:13.the familiar routine we have heard the familiar routine we have heard
:20:13. > :20:14.from unionists that it is all from unionists that it is all
:20:14. > :20:16.from unionists that it is all from unionists that it is all
:20:16. > :20:18.running out and it is not there, it running out and it is not there, it
:20:18. > :20:20.running out and it is not there, it running out and it is not there, it
:20:20. > :20:21.is too much trouble. It is the most is too much trouble. It is the most
:20:21. > :20:23.is too much trouble. It is the most wonderful resource and every country
:20:24. > :20:27.wonderful resource and every country wonderful resource and every country
:20:27. > :20:37.would give their eye teeth toff would give their eye teeth toff
:20:37. > :21:15.
:21:15. > :21:16.would give their eye teeth toff We know the celebrations now are
:21:16. > :21:23.We know the celebrations now are We know the celebrations now are
:21:23. > :21:25.It is only his Cabinet colleagues It is only his Cabinet colleagues
:21:25. > :21:26.It is only his Cabinet colleagues It is only his Cabinet colleagues
:21:26. > :21:27.that get to know the truth about that get to know the truth about
:21:27. > :21:28.that get to know the truth about the deal price of independence. Why
:21:29. > :21:29.the deal price of independence. Why the deal price of independence. Why
:21:29. > :21:31.the deal price of independence. Why does he think the real truth is any
:21:31. > :21:34.does he think the real truth is any does he think the real truth is any
:21:34. > :21:40.good enough for the privileged few? good enough for the privileged few?
:21:40. > :21:43.good enough for the privileged few? good enough for the privileged few?
:21:43. > :21:44.Let's see if I can reply. I don't Let's see if I can reply. I don't
:21:44. > :21:45.Let's see if I can reply. I don't think either truth or deficit so
:21:45. > :21:46.think either truth or deficit so think either truth or deficit so
:21:46. > :21:51.are the strongest suit of the are the strongest suit of the
:21:51. > :21:52.are the strongest suit of the Liberal Democrats at the moment. I
:21:52. > :21:53.Liberal Democrats at the moment. I Liberal Democrats at the moment. I
:21:53. > :21:55.will read what the document says will read what the document says
:21:55. > :21:57.will read what the document says about public spending. What keeps
:21:57. > :21:59.about public spending. What keeps about public spending. What keeps
:21:59. > :22:00.me awake just now is the me awake just now is the
:22:00. > :22:02.me awake just now is the implications of a liberal Tory
:22:02. > :22:03.implications of a liberal Tory implications of a liberal Tory
:22:03. > :22:05.policy in Scotland and the declines policy in Scotland and the declines
:22:05. > :22:06.policy in Scotland and the declines in public spending that are going
:22:06. > :22:07.in public spending that are going in public spending that are going
:22:07. > :22:09.in public spending that are going on. What keeps me awake is the
:22:09. > :22:10.on. What keeps me awake is the on. What keeps me awake is the
:22:10. > :22:12.on. What keeps me awake is the bedroom tax at the impact of social
:22:12. > :22:13.bedroom tax at the impact of social bedroom tax at the impact of social
:22:13. > :22:13.security in Scotland. It is the security in Scotland. It is the
:22:13. > :22:14.security in Scotland. It is the security in Scotland. It is the
:22:14. > :22:15.billion pounds that is going to be billion pounds that is going to be
:22:15. > :22:17.billion pounds that is going to be withdrawn from the poorest sections
:22:17. > :22:18.withdrawn from the poorest sections withdrawn from the poorest sections
:22:18. > :22:19.of the community thanks to the of the community thanks to the
:22:19. > :22:22.of the community thanks to the policies of the Tory and Liberal
:22:23. > :22:23.policies of the Tory and Liberal policies of the Tory and Liberal
:22:23. > :22:24.administration in London. It is administration in London. It is
:22:24. > :22:25.administration in London. It is Trident missiles for the next 50
:22:26. > :22:27.Trident missiles for the next 50 Trident missiles for the next 50
:22:27. > :22:28.years in Scotland. We should be years in Scotland. We should be
:22:28. > :22:30.years in Scotland. We should be spending that money on the social
:22:30. > :22:31.spending that money on the social spending that money on the social
:22:31. > :22:32.and economic welfare of Scotland. and economic welfare of Scotland.
:22:32. > :22:35.and economic welfare of Scotland. and economic welfare of Scotland.
:22:35. > :22:36.What keeps me awake is not the band of Liberal Democrat
:22:36. > :22:37.of Liberal Democrat doorstep of Liberal Democrat doorstep
:22:37. > :22:38.of Liberal Democrat doorstep because sooner or later, one of
:22:38. > :22:39.because sooner or later, one of because sooner or later, one of
:22:39. > :22:41.because sooner or later, one of them is going to work out why there
:22:41. > :22:42.them is going to work out why there them is going to work out why there
:22:42. > :22:44.Rat only by that Liberal Democrats Rat only by that Liberal Democrats
:22:44. > :22:46.Rat only by that Liberal Democrats in this Chamber up. Because they
:22:46. > :22:46.in this Chamber up. Because they in this Chamber up. Because they
:22:46. > :22:56.in this Chamber up. Because they put the Tories into what power in
:22:56. > :23:01.put the Tories into what power in Westminster. Question number four.
:23:01. > :23:01.Westminster. Question number four. Westminster. Question number four.
:23:01. > :23:02.Thank you. What consideration has Thank you. What consideration has
:23:02. > :23:04.Thank you. What consideration has the Scottish government given to
:23:04. > :23:05.the Scottish government given to the introduction of legislation
:23:05. > :23:07.the introduction of legislation the introduction of legislation
:23:07. > :23:07.regarding the implementation of the regarding the implementation of the
:23:07. > :23:10.regarding the implementation of the relevant Convention rights that the
:23:10. > :23:11.relevant Convention rights that the relevant Convention rights that the
:23:11. > :23:13.UK government was to repeal the UK government was to repeal the
:23:13. > :23:15.UK government was to repeal the Human Rights Act of 1998.
:23:15. > :23:17.Human Rights Act of 1998. Scottish government strongly oppose
:23:17. > :23:17.Scottish government strongly oppose Scottish government strongly oppose
:23:17. > :23:18.Scottish government strongly oppose the repeal of the Human Rights Act.
:23:18. > :23:19.the repeal of the Human Rights Act. the repeal of the Human Rights Act.
:23:19. > :23:21.the repeal of the Human Rights Act. We expect to be consulted by the
:23:21. > :23:23.We expect to be consulted by the We expect to be consulted by the
:23:23. > :23:24.government on any proposed changes. government on any proposed changes.
:23:24. > :23:27.government on any proposed changes. No such proposal has been
:23:27. > :23:28.No such proposal has been No such proposal has been
:23:28. > :23:30.communicated to us. It would be communicated to us. It would be
:23:30. > :23:32.communicated to us. It would be open to the Scottish government to
:23:32. > :23:33.open to the Scottish government to introduce legislation that protects
:23:33. > :23:33.introduce legislation that protects introduce legislation that protects
:23:33. > :23:37.the fundamental rights of the the fundamental rights of the
:23:37. > :23:39.the fundamental rights of the people in Scotland. I think the
:23:39. > :23:40.people in Scotland. I think the people in Scotland. I think the
:23:40. > :23:42.First Minister for that answer. First Minister for that answer.
:23:42. > :23:44.First Minister for that answer. Does he agree to the proposal
:23:44. > :23:46.Does he agree to the proposal Does he agree to the proposal
:23:46. > :23:47.designed to pander to a right-wing designed to pander to a right-wing
:23:47. > :23:49.Euro-sceptic minority would sees Euro-sceptic minority would sees
:23:50. > :23:50.Euro-sceptic minority would sees Scotland isolated in Europe and
:23:50. > :23:51.Scotland isolated in Europe and Scotland isolated in Europe and
:23:51. > :23:52.instead of Appeal and the Human instead of Appeal and the Human
:23:52. > :23:53.instead of Appeal and the Human instead of Appeal and the Human
:23:53. > :23:54.Rights Act, we need to extend the Rights Act, we need to extend the
:23:54. > :23:55.Rights Act, we need to extend the scope and reach of fundamental
:23:55. > :23:58.scope and reach of fundamental scope and reach of fundamental
:23:58. > :23:59.scope and reach of fundamental human rights here in Scotland.
:23:59. > :24:00.human rights here in Scotland. human rights here in Scotland.
:24:00. > :24:01.human rights here in Scotland. agree. But think it is the UK
:24:01. > :24:03.agree. But think it is the UK agree. But think it is the UK
:24:03. > :24:04.government result of step with government result of step with
:24:04. > :24:05.civilised people across the civilised people across the
:24:05. > :24:07.civilised people across the continent. I think their attitude
:24:07. > :24:08.continent. I think their attitude continent. I think their attitude
:24:08. > :24:10.is parochial and aggressive in is parochial and aggressive in
:24:10. > :24:11.is parochial and aggressive in terms of attitudes to human rights.
:24:11. > :24:12.terms of attitudes to human rights. terms of attitudes to human rights.
:24:12. > :24:14.I think the European Convention I think the European Convention
:24:14. > :24:16.I think the European Convention fulfils a valuable role in current
:24:16. > :24:17.fulfils a valuable role in current fulfils a valuable role in current
:24:17. > :24:17.Scottish Society. I think an Scottish Society. I think an
:24:18. > :24:19.Scottish Society. I think an independent Scotland with a written
:24:19. > :24:19.independent Scotland with a written independent Scotland with a written
:24:19. > :24:20.constitution would allow us to constitution would allow us to
:24:20. > :24:23.constitution would allow us to research the positive rights that
:24:23. > :24:24.research the positive rights that research the positive rights that
:24:24. > :24:28.people in a modern democracy have people in a modern democracy have
:24:28. > :24:29.people in a modern democracy have people in a modern democracy have
:24:29. > :24:30.the right to expect. Does the First the right to expect. Does the First
:24:30. > :24:31.the right to expect. Does the First Minister agree that were the
:24:31. > :24:32.Minister agree that were the Minister agree that were the
:24:32. > :24:33.government to repeal the Human government to repeal the Human
:24:33. > :24:34.government to repeal the Human Rights Act and withdraw from the
:24:34. > :24:35.Rights Act and withdraw from the Rights Act and withdraw from the
:24:36. > :24:36.jurisdiction of the humour of -- jurisdiction of the humour of --
:24:36. > :24:39.jurisdiction of the humour of -- European Court of Human Rights, it
:24:39. > :24:40.European Court of Human Rights, it European Court of Human Rights, it
:24:40. > :24:41.would set a unique precedent would set a unique precedent
:24:41. > :24:44.would set a unique precedent separating the United Kingdom from
:24:44. > :24:45.separating the United Kingdom from separating the United Kingdom from
:24:45. > :24:46.the other participants in the court the other participants in the court
:24:46. > :24:47.the other participants in the court the other participants in the court
:24:47. > :24:48.the other participants in the court and put in the UK on the same level
:24:48. > :24:50.and put in the UK on the same level and put in the UK on the same level
:24:50. > :24:59.as bowler Bruce? I certainly think as bowler Bruce? I certainly think
:24:59. > :25:00.as bowler Bruce? I certainly think as bowler Bruce? I certainly think
:25:00. > :25:01.that the trend... When you get to that the trend... When you get to
:25:01. > :25:02.that the trend... When you get to that the trend... When you get to
:25:02. > :25:03.the stage that you are so opposed the stage that you are so opposed
:25:03. > :25:04.the stage that you are so opposed the stage that you are so opposed
:25:04. > :25:06.to a joint European action that to to a joint European action that to
:25:06. > :25:06.to a joint European action that to question the validity of European
:25:06. > :25:08.question the validity of European question the validity of European
:25:08. > :25:10.arrest warrants, which is what has arrest warrants, which is what has
:25:10. > :25:11.arrest warrants, which is what has been going on at Westminster,
:25:11. > :25:12.been going on at Westminster, been going on at Westminster,
:25:12. > :25:14.been going on at Westminster, arrest warrant that get some of the
:25:14. > :25:15.arrest warrant that get some of the arrest warrant that get some of the
:25:15. > :25:16.most dangerous and fish as people most dangerous and fish as people
:25:16. > :25:19.most dangerous and fish as people effectively repatriated so they can
:25:19. > :25:20.effectively repatriated so they can effectively repatriated so they can
:25:20. > :25:22.face justice, to put the politics face justice, to put the politics
:25:22. > :25:23.face justice, to put the politics of this before arresting murderers
:25:23. > :25:24.of this before arresting murderers of this before arresting murderers
:25:24. > :25:25.of this before arresting murderers and a rapists and other people who
:25:25. > :25:26.and a rapists and other people who and a rapists and other people who
:25:26. > :25:28.should be brought back to face should be brought back to face
:25:28. > :25:30.should be brought back to face justice shows the extent that the
:25:30. > :25:32.justice shows the extent that the justice shows the extent that the
:25:32. > :25:36.Tory party has lost touch with Tory party has lost touch with
:25:36. > :25:40.Tory party has lost touch with civilised values and with reality
:25:40. > :25:41.civilised values and with reality civilised values and with reality
:25:41. > :25:42.Borstal -- reality. Will the Borstal -- reality. Will the
:25:42. > :25:46.Scottish government clarify the Scottish government clarify the
:25:46. > :25:46.current relationship between the current relationship between the
:25:46. > :25:49.current relationship between the Scottish Police Authority and the
:25:49. > :25:51.Scottish Police Authority and the Scottish Police Authority and the
:25:51. > :25:58.Scottish Police Authority and the government? It is set out in the
:25:58. > :25:59.government? It is set out in the government? It is set out in the
:25:59. > :26:00.2012 act. I think the First 2012 act. I think the First
:26:00. > :26:02.2012 act. I think the First Minister for that brief answer it.
:26:02. > :26:03.Minister for that brief answer it. Minister for that brief answer it.
:26:03. > :26:04.In four separate interviews, the In four separate interviews, the
:26:04. > :26:07.In four separate interviews, the chief constable has indicated he
:26:07. > :26:07.chief constable has indicated he chief constable has indicated he
:26:07. > :26:09.chief constable has indicated he will be unable to maintain the 1000
:26:09. > :26:11.will be unable to maintain the 1000 additional police officers during
:26:11. > :26:11.additional police officers during additional police officers during
:26:11. > :26:14.the forthcoming spending period due the forthcoming spending period due
:26:14. > :26:15.the forthcoming spending period due to budget pressures. In addition,
:26:15. > :26:17.to budget pressures. In addition, to budget pressures. In addition,
:26:17. > :26:19.police staff from Unison last night police staff from Unison last night
:26:19. > :26:21.shed their substantial experience shed their substantial experience
:26:21. > :26:23.shed their substantial experience of job losses and insecurity with
:26:23. > :26:25.of job losses and insecurity with of job losses and insecurity with
:26:25. > :26:28.members of this Parliament. Given members of this Parliament. Given
:26:28. > :26:29.members of this Parliament. Given the evident friction between the
:26:29. > :26:31.the evident friction between the two Constable and government
:26:31. > :26:33.two Constable and government officials exposed in correspondence
:26:33. > :26:34.officials exposed in correspondence officials exposed in correspondence
:26:34. > :26:35.belatedly released to the justice belatedly released to the justice
:26:35. > :26:38.belatedly released to the justice committee this week, is the First
:26:38. > :26:38.committee this week, is the First committee this week, is the First
:26:38. > :26:39.Minister committed to ensure the Minister committed to ensure the
:26:39. > :26:41.chief constable is appropriately chief constable is appropriately
:26:41. > :26:43.chief constable is appropriately chief constable is appropriately
:26:43. > :26:48.empowered in terms of a chart and empowered in terms of a chart and
:26:48. > :26:48.finance, subject to corporate finance, subject to corporate
:26:48. > :26:50.finance, subject to corporate responsibility, to deliver and deal
:26:50. > :26:52.responsibility, to deliver and deal responsibility, to deliver and deal
:26:52. > :26:53.with concerns expressed by police with concerns expressed by police
:26:53. > :26:55.with concerns expressed by police with concerns expressed by police
:26:55. > :26:55.staff. A I do believe that. Let me staff. A I do believe that. Let me
:26:55. > :27:00.staff. A I do believe that. Let me quote directly from the Chief
:27:00. > :27:00.quote directly from the Chief quote directly from the Chief
:27:00. > :27:03.Constable. I believe Scotland has a Constable. I believe Scotland has a
:27:03. > :27:04.Constable. I believe Scotland has a balanced police staff. I must
:27:04. > :27:05.balanced police staff. I must balanced police staff. I must
:27:05. > :27:07.balanced police staff. I must repeat we do not have a strategy
:27:08. > :27:09.repeat we do not have a strategy repeat we do not have a strategy
:27:09. > :27:11.and planned to back Philby's moles and planned to back Philby's moles
:27:11. > :27:12.and planned to back Philby's moles and planned to back Philby's moles
:27:12. > :27:13.of police officers. I want as many of police officers. I want as many
:27:13. > :27:14.of police officers. I want as many of police officers. I want as many
:27:14. > :27:17.staff as possible on the street in staff as possible on the street in
:27:17. > :27:20.staff as possible on the street in an operational board. We're seeing
:27:20. > :27:21.an operational board. We're seeing an operational board. We're seeing
:27:21. > :27:29.police staff on the streets of police staff on the streets of
:27:29. > :27:30.police staff on the streets of Scotland in record numbers. I saw
:27:30. > :27:33.Scotland in record numbers. I saw Scotland in record numbers. I saw
:27:33. > :27:35.Scotland in record numbers. I saw his quotes in the papers on Sunday
:27:35. > :27:37.his quotes in the papers on Sunday his quotes in the papers on Sunday
:27:37. > :27:39.on the historic, or belated, on the historic, or belated,
:27:39. > :27:40.documents. These matters were documents. These matters were
:27:40. > :27:41.documents. These matters were settled in January and February it
:27:41. > :27:42.settled in January and February it settled in January and February it
:27:42. > :27:43.settled in January and February it in terms of the detail. Instead of
:27:44. > :27:45.in terms of the detail. Instead of in terms of the detail. Instead of
:27:45. > :27:46.breaking over the belated documents, breaking over the belated documents,
:27:46. > :27:49.breaking over the belated documents, breaking over the belated documents,
:27:49. > :27:50.as he puts it, shouldn't he put his as he puts it, shouldn't he put his
:27:50. > :27:54.experience behind the police experience behind the police
:27:54. > :27:54.experience behind the police service in Scotland working to
:27:54. > :27:55.service in Scotland working to service in Scotland working to
:27:55. > :27:57.create a police service in Scotland create a police service in Scotland
:27:57. > :28:01.create a police service in Scotland create a police service in Scotland
:28:01. > :28:02.create a police service in Scotland of which all of us can be proud.
:28:02. > :28:03.of which all of us can be proud. of which all of us can be proud.
:28:03. > :28:04.our meeting last night at Unison our meeting last night at Unison
:28:04. > :28:05.our meeting last night at Unison with many civilian staff present,
:28:05. > :28:07.with many civilian staff present, with many civilian staff present,
:28:07. > :28:08.there were many who were very there were many who were very
:28:08. > :28:09.there were many who were very concerned about their future, not
:28:09. > :28:11.concerned about their future, not concerned about their future, not
:28:11. > :28:12.concerned about their future, not just next week, but in the coming
:28:12. > :28:13.just next week, but in the coming just next week, but in the coming
:28:13. > :28:16.years. Does he share my concerns years. Does he share my concerns
:28:16. > :28:18.years. Does he share my concerns years. Does he share my concerns
:28:18. > :28:20.that with the combined force of the that with the combined force of the
:28:20. > :28:23.that with the combined force of the civil police force, these matters
:28:23. > :28:25.civil police force, these matters civil police force, these matters
:28:25. > :28:26.must be addressed urgently. Yes, I must be addressed urgently. Yes, I
:28:26. > :28:27.must be addressed urgently. Yes, I must be addressed urgently. Yes, I
:28:27. > :28:28.do agree, which is exactly why I do agree, which is exactly why I
:28:28. > :28:30.do agree, which is exactly why I do agree, which is exactly why I
:28:30. > :28:30.read out the quote of the chief read out the quote of the chief
:28:31. > :28:32.read out the quote of the chief constable on Tuesday in terms of
:28:32. > :28:34.constable on Tuesday in terms of constable on Tuesday in terms of
:28:34. > :28:35.constable on Tuesday in terms of the balance that he sees in terms
:28:35. > :28:38.the balance that he sees in terms the balance that he sees in terms
:28:38. > :28:39.the balance that he sees in terms of the forces in Scotland. It has
:28:39. > :28:40.of the forces in Scotland. It has of the forces in Scotland. It has
:28:40. > :28:41.been argued that the increase in been argued that the increase in
:28:41. > :28:42.been argued that the increase in police numbers in Scotland is
:28:42. > :28:47.police numbers in Scotland is police numbers in Scotland is
:28:47. > :28:48.somehow at the expense of the somehow at the expense of the
:28:48. > :28:49.somehow at the expense of the somehow at the expense of the
:28:49. > :28:56.civilian staff. I had a look at the civilian staff. I had a look at the
:28:56. > :28:58.civilian staff. I had a look at the figures from England and Wales.
:28:58. > :29:00.figures from England and Wales. figures from England and Wales.
:29:00. > :29:01.Order, order. I seem to remember Order, order. I seem to remember
:29:01. > :29:02.Order, order. I seem to remember the Labour Party had some
:29:02. > :29:04.the Labour Party had some the Labour Party had some
:29:04. > :29:05.responsibility in Wales at the responsibility in Wales at the
:29:05. > :29:06.responsibility in Wales at the responsibility in Wales at the
:29:06. > :29:09.present moment. I had a look at present moment. I had a look at
:29:09. > :29:09.present moment. I had a look at these figures. I think it is
:29:09. > :29:11.these figures. I think it is these figures. I think it is
:29:11. > :29:12.instructive to see what the Labour instructive to see what the Labour
:29:12. > :29:13.instructive to see what the Labour Party actually does so when they
:29:13. > :29:13.Party actually does so when they Party actually does so when they
:29:13. > :29:14.Party actually does so when they are in office as opposed to what
:29:14. > :29:15.are in office as opposed to what are in office as opposed to what
:29:15. > :29:17.are in office as opposed to what they say they will do when they are
:29:17. > :29:17.they say they will do when they are they say they will do when they are
:29:17. > :29:18.in opposition. What is instructive in opposition. What is instructive
:29:18. > :29:20.in opposition. What is instructive in opposition. What is instructive
:29:20. > :29:23.is that not only are police numbers is that not only are police numbers
:29:23. > :29:24.in England falling dramatically, in England falling dramatically,
:29:24. > :29:25.in England falling dramatically, the police support staff are
:29:25. > :29:27.the police support staff are the police support staff are
:29:27. > :29:28.falling faster than they have falling faster than they have
:29:28. > :29:29.falling faster than they have fallen in Scotland. So I believe
:29:29. > :29:30.fallen in Scotland. So I believe fallen in Scotland. So I believe
:29:30. > :29:32.the single police service in the single police service in
:29:32. > :29:32.the single police service in the single police service in
:29:32. > :29:35.Scotland will allow us to make the Scotland will allow us to make the
:29:35. > :29:36.efficiencies that are necessary. efficiencies that are necessary.
:29:36. > :29:36.efficiencies that are necessary. efficiencies that are necessary.
:29:36. > :29:37.That is why the are having a single That is why the are having a single
:29:37. > :29:39.That is why the are having a single police service to deliver the
:29:39. > :29:40.police service to deliver the police service to deliver the
:29:40. > :29:41.correct balance of police staff and correct balance of police staff and
:29:41. > :29:42.correct balance of police staff and police officers to bring about that
:29:42. > :29:43.police officers to bring about that police officers to bring about that
:29:43. > :29:46.police officers to bring about that police service of which we can all
:29:46. > :29:49.police service of which we can all police service of which we can all
:29:49. > :29:50.be proud. These matters are not be proud. These matters are not
:29:50. > :29:51.be proud. These matters are not settled. The best be a means
:29:51. > :29:52.settled. The best be a means settled. The best be a means
:29:52. > :29:54.tomorrow. It returns to the core tomorrow. It returns to the core
:29:54. > :29:55.tomorrow. It returns to the core question of where power lies. But
:29:55. > :29:56.question of where power lies. But question of where power lies. But
:29:56. > :29:57.question of where power lies. But the public is to be kept in the
:29:57. > :29:58.the public is to be kept in the the public is to be kept in the
:29:58. > :30:00.the public is to be kept in the the public is to be kept in the
:30:00. > :30:01.dark as the item is to be taken in dark as the item is to be taken in
:30:01. > :30:02.dark as the item is to be taken in PUP -- private. Was the First
:30:02. > :30:03.PUP -- private. Was the First PUP -- private. Was the First
:30:03. > :30:04.Minister agreed that it is clearly Minister agreed that it is clearly
:30:04. > :30:05.Minister agreed that it is clearly in the public interest but the
:30:05. > :30:05.in the public interest but the in the public interest but the
:30:05. > :30:11.people of Scotland should be able people of Scotland should be able
:30:11. > :30:11.to follow these decisions? to follow these decisions?
:30:12. > :30:14.to follow these decisions? Agreement on the general principles
:30:14. > :30:16.Agreement on the general principles Agreement on the general principles
:30:16. > :30:18.Agreement on the general principles was beached at the board on 18th
:30:18. > :30:19.was beached at the board on 18th January. Detailed agreement was
:30:19. > :30:20.January. Detailed agreement was January. Detailed agreement was
:30:20. > :30:21.reached last month and the bodies reached last month and the bodies
:30:21. > :30:23.reached last month and the bodies reached last month and the bodies
:30:23. > :30:23.are working hard to bring about the are working hard to bring about the
:30:24. > :30:25.are working hard to bring about the effect of Lord of the police
:30:25. > :30:26.effect of Lord of the police effect of Lord of the police
:30:26. > :30:28.service in Scotland. Huge progress service in Scotland. Huge progress
:30:28. > :30:30.service in Scotland. Huge progress service in Scotland. Huge progress
:30:30. > :30:32.has been made to meet that event of has been made to meet that event of
:30:32. > :30:33.has been made to meet that event of the new police service of Scotland.
:30:33. > :30:36.the new police service of Scotland. the new police service of Scotland.
:30:36. > :30:37.Would it not be reasonable, given Would it not be reasonable, given
:30:37. > :30:38.Would it not be reasonable, given that the fears that were expressed
:30:38. > :30:40.that the fears that were expressed that the fears that were expressed
:30:40. > :30:42.by the Liberal Democrats in advance by the Liberal Democrats in advance
:30:42. > :30:43.by the Liberal Democrats in advance of that January meeting, where they
:30:43. > :30:44.of that January meeting, where they of that January meeting, where they
:30:44. > :30:45.said it would be an absolute said it would be an absolute
:30:45. > :30:47.said it would be an absolute disaster, which did not come to
:30:47. > :30:48.disaster, which did not come to disaster, which did not come to
:30:48. > :30:49.pass, strangely enough the Liberal pass, strangely enough the Liberal
:30:49. > :30:51.pass, strangely enough the Liberal Democrats did not return to the
:30:51. > :30:51.Democrats did not return to the Democrats did not return to the
:30:52. > :30:54.subject a week after. Wouldn't it subject a week after. Wouldn't it
:30:54. > :30:56.subject a week after. Wouldn't it be nice to see the opposition
:30:56. > :30:57.be nice to see the opposition be nice to see the opposition
:30:57. > :30:57.parties get behind the police parties get behind the police
:30:57. > :30:58.parties get behind the police service in their attempts to bring
:30:58. > :30:59.service in their attempts to bring service in their attempts to bring
:30:59. > :31:04.service in their attempts to bring a huge success from the new police
:31:04. > :31:05.a huge success from the new police a huge success from the new police
:31:05. > :31:05.service of Scotland? Two of the service of Scotland? Two of the
:31:06. > :31:06.service of Scotland? Two of the First Minister of what plans the
:31:06. > :31:08.First Minister of what plans the First Minister of what plans the
:31:08. > :31:11.Scottish government has to be Scottish government has to be
:31:11. > :31:12.Scottish government has to be formed the public school system.
:31:12. > :31:15.formed the public school system. Scottish schools are consistently
:31:15. > :31:16.Scottish schools are consistently excellent. There is substantial
:31:16. > :31:17.excellent. There is substantial excellent. There is substantial
:31:17. > :31:18.evidence they are getting better up. evidence they are getting better up.
:31:18. > :31:19.evidence they are getting better up. evidence they are getting better up.
:31:19. > :31:23.We can see this from last year's We can see this from last year's
:31:23. > :31:24.We can see this from last year's record exam passes. We should all
:31:24. > :31:25.record exam passes. We should all record exam passes. We should all
:31:25. > :31:27.take great satisfaction. I believe take great satisfaction. I believe
:31:27. > :31:28.take great satisfaction. I believe take great satisfaction. I believe
:31:28. > :31:29.we have the right elements in place we have the right elements in place
:31:29. > :31:30.we have the right elements in place to secure that excellent, world-
:31:30. > :31:32.to secure that excellent, world- to secure that excellent, world-
:31:32. > :31:33.class system. We are making good class system. We are making good
:31:33. > :31:35.class system. We are making good progress with the current reform
:31:35. > :31:37.progress with the current reform progress with the current reform
:31:37. > :31:39.plan. I want to complement the plan. I want to complement the
:31:39. > :31:41.inspiring and dedicated teachers inspiring and dedicated teachers
:31:41. > :31:44.inspiring and dedicated teachers while rising to the challenge of
:31:44. > :31:45.while rising to the challenge of while rising to the challenge of
:31:45. > :31:47.delivering a modern education. delivering a modern education.
:31:47. > :31:48.delivering a modern education. delivering a modern education.
:31:48. > :31:48.I thank the First Minister for his I thank the First Minister for his
:31:48. > :31:50.I thank the First Minister for his response. The glowing picture he
:31:50. > :31:51.response. The glowing picture he response. The glowing picture he
:31:51. > :31:53.paints is contradicted by the paints is contradicted by the
:31:53. > :31:54.paints is contradicted by the publication this week by the
:31:54. > :31:55.publication this week by the publication this week by the
:31:55. > :31:57.Commission on school reform, one Commission on school reform, one
:31:57. > :32:00.Commission on school reform, one which one of his own party
:32:00. > :32:01.which one of his own party which one of his own party
:32:01. > :32:02.councillors served. How would the councillors served. How would the
:32:02. > :32:03.Scottish government take forward Scottish government take forward
:32:03. > :32:05.Scottish government take forward the key recommendation of this
:32:06. > :32:06.the key recommendation of this report about greater school
:32:06. > :32:08.report about greater school autonomy and greater provision
:32:08. > :32:09.autonomy and greater provision autonomy and greater provision
:32:09. > :32:11.required in order to improve required in order to improve
:32:11. > :32:15.standards. Especially helping those standards. Especially helping those
:32:15. > :32:17.standards. Especially helping those being bailed by the current system.
:32:17. > :32:18.being bailed by the current system. being bailed by the current system.
:32:18. > :32:19.-- being failed. There are some -- being failed. There are some
:32:19. > :32:20.interesting proposals in the interesting proposals in the
:32:21. > :32:23.interesting proposals in the document. They will be treated very
:32:23. > :32:24.document. They will be treated very document. They will be treated very
:32:24. > :32:26.seriously. But turn sure he will seriously. But turn sure he will
:32:26. > :32:27.seriously. But turn sure he will seriously. But turn sure he will
:32:27. > :32:28.accept that the figures we have and accept that the figures we have and
:32:28. > :32:29.the international comparisons show the international comparisons show
:32:29. > :32:31.the international comparisons show that the relative decline which
:32:32. > :32:34.that the relative decline which Scottish education was suffering
:32:34. > :32:35.Scottish education was suffering Scottish education was suffering
:32:35. > :32:37.Scottish education was suffering from was reversed into 1009 when a
:32:37. > :32:40.from was reversed into 1009 when a from was reversed into 1009 when a
:32:40. > :32:41.position of stability was achieved. position of stability was achieved.
:32:41. > :32:43.position of stability was achieved. position of stability was achieved.
:32:43. > :32:44.I don't think we should get into I don't think we should get into
:32:44. > :32:47.the argument of misrepresenting the argument of misrepresenting
:32:47. > :32:48.the argument of misrepresenting what the commission said. Let me
:32:48. > :32:49.what the commission said. Let me what the commission said. Let me
:32:49. > :32:53.what the commission said. Let me quote a directly from the chair of
:32:53. > :32:54.quote a directly from the chair of quote a directly from the chair of
:32:54. > :32:56.the commission. It is very the commission. It is very
:32:56. > :32:57.the commission. It is very the commission. It is very
:32:57. > :32:58.important, I think, to see this in important, I think, to see this in
:32:58. > :33:00.important, I think, to see this in perspective. This is not a crisis.
:33:00. > :33:02.perspective. This is not a crisis. perspective. This is not a crisis.
:33:02. > :33:03.The Scottish education system is The Scottish education system is
:33:03. > :33:05.The Scottish education system is not failing. On the contrary, it
:33:05. > :33:06.not failing. On the contrary, it has remarkably consistent high
:33:06. > :33:08.has remarkably consistent high has remarkably consistent high
:33:08. > :33:09.standards across the whole range of standards across the whole range of
:33:09. > :33:12.standards across the whole range of standards across the whole range of
:33:12. > :33:13.its schools. If that is what he its schools. If that is what he
:33:13. > :33:16.its schools. If that is what he its schools. If that is what he
:33:16. > :33:16.says, can we not try to get matters says, can we not try to get matters
:33:16. > :33:18.says, can we not try to get matters into perspective? To see the
:33:18. > :33:19.into perspective? To see the into perspective? To see the
:33:19. > :33:21.positive suggestions that are made positive suggestions that are made
:33:21. > :33:21.positive suggestions that are made positive suggestions that are made
:33:21. > :33:26.in the report and take them forward in the report and take them forward
:33:26. > :33:27.in the report and take them forward for the good of Scottish education.
:33:27. > :33:29.for the good of Scottish education. for the good of Scottish education.
:33:29. > :33:30.The commission spoke about the The commission spoke about the
:33:30. > :33:32.devastating consequences of social devastating consequences of social
:33:32. > :33:34.devastating consequences of social and economic disadvantage. Will the
:33:34. > :33:36.and economic disadvantage. Will the First Minister allocate additional
:33:36. > :33:37.First Minister allocate additional First Minister allocate additional
:33:37. > :33:38.resources to allow schools in those resources to allow schools in those
:33:38. > :33:43.resources to allow schools in those areas to tackle that disadvantage
:33:43. > :33:44.areas to tackle that disadvantage areas to tackle that disadvantage
:33:44. > :33:46.head on. We look at positive head on. We look at positive
:33:46. > :33:48.head on. We look at positive proposals to attack poverty and
:33:48. > :33:49.proposals to attack poverty and proposals to attack poverty and
:33:49. > :33:51.disadvantage in Scottish society as disadvantage in Scottish society as
:33:51. > :33:53.disadvantage in Scottish society as disadvantage in Scottish society as
:33:53. > :34:03.the member well knows it makes up - the member well knows it makes up -
:34:03. > :34:05.
:34:06. > :34:07.- examining this Government's - examining this Government's
:34:07. > :34:08.- examining this Government's - examining this Government's
:34:08. > :34:10.record. I have to say to the member, record. I have to say to the member,
:34:10. > :34:12.record. I have to say to the member, the way to secure that universal
:34:12. > :34:13.the way to secure that universal the way to secure that universal
:34:13. > :34:14.Allodi and give every charge in Allodi and give every charge in
:34:14. > :34:14.Allodi and give every charge in Allodi and give every charge in
:34:14. > :34:15.Scotland a chance is not to impose Scotland a chance is not to impose
:34:15. > :34:16.Scotland a chance is not to impose Scotland a chance is not to impose
:34:16. > :34:22.tuition fees when they try to get tuition fees when they try to get
:34:22. > :34:23.tuition fees when they try to get into higher education boss of their
:34:23. > :34:24.into higher education boss of their into higher education boss of their
:34:24. > :34:28.into higher education boss of their we have it, the close of First
:34:28. > :34:29.we have it, the close of First Minister's questions. Extremely
:34:29. > :34:31.Minister's questions. Extremely Minister's questions. Extremely
:34:31. > :34:32.robust exchanges of on future robust exchanges of on future
:34:32. > :34:33.robust exchanges of on future spending plans. All of the
:34:33. > :34:34.spending plans. All of the spending plans. All of the
:34:34. > :34:38.opposition leaders are lining up to opposition leaders are lining up to
:34:38. > :34:39.opposition leaders are lining up to reduce the First Minister of his
:34:39. > :34:40.reduce the First Minister of his reduce the First Minister of his
:34:40. > :34:46.saying one thing in public and saying one thing in public and