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:00:25. > :00:35.Am sure our institutionally cautious politicians will be even

:00:35. > :00:42.

:00:42. > :00:49.We are under way. First Minister Congratulating Perth on the city

:00:49. > :00:53.Can the First Minister explain why Scottish families today are facing

:00:53. > :01:02.some of the highest childcare costs in Europe, while his government

:01:02. > :01:08.offers less help than Nick Clegg? In the last term of office we took

:01:08. > :01:12.the availability of childcare in Scotland from the 425 hours we

:01:12. > :01:18.inherited to 475 hours. I'm sure she will welcome the pledge which

:01:18. > :01:23.will go into legislation, to make sure it is available to everyone in

:01:23. > :01:26.Scotland. To move that to 600 hours. It will give us the best package of

:01:26. > :01:34.child care and pre-school facilities of any country in these

:01:34. > :01:39.I note the First Minister didn't answer the question of why we are

:01:39. > :01:44.still in the place we are. Nothing new there. On Saturday, the First

:01:44. > :01:48.Minister, who has never knowingly undersold his position, promised

:01:48. > :01:55.the best package of free nursery education on offer anywhere in the

:01:55. > :02:01.UK. Just not yet. Nothing new here. We heard this same pledge in the

:02:01. > :02:08.SNP manifesto would 2007. Remember that one, filed in the section of a

:02:08. > :02:15.library near you. We know what happened with that pledge. Promised

:02:15. > :02:20.in 2007. Dumped by Mike Russell in 2009. The First Minister repackaged

:02:20. > :02:24.it on Saturday. We need to wait until after the referendum in 2014

:02:24. > :02:29.before he delivers it. Why has he failed to deliver on his own

:02:29. > :02:37.pledge? Why has he left Scottish families and Scottish children

:02:37. > :02:40.down? Can I say to John Le Monde, our ability to deliver on the

:02:40. > :02:48.programme was judged by the people of Scotland last year in the

:02:48. > :02:53.election. Can I correct or on the costs, she said I didn't answer her

:02:53. > :03:02.caress JUN director. She's wrong in terms of the costs to these islands.

:03:02. > :03:10.Nursery, two years and over, the average in England is �103.19. The

:03:10. > :03:14.average in Scotland is under bat. - - that. These are very substantial

:03:14. > :03:19.child care costs. One of the arguments put forward persuasively

:03:19. > :03:25.is that it is a function of the supply and affordability of which

:03:25. > :03:29.can drive up costs in certain instances. And therefore the most -

:03:29. > :03:33.- more publicly-funded childcare and pre- school that is on offer,

:03:33. > :03:37.that will have two beneficial effects. It will help the families

:03:37. > :03:43.who are getting that availability of childcare and nursery. Secondly,

:03:43. > :03:47.it will help to drive down costs in terms of other provisions. The

:03:47. > :03:52.judgment of the people of Scotland in terms of the ability of a

:03:52. > :03:57.minority SNP government over four years was made in the May election.

:03:57. > :04:01.The judgment of the people of Scotland on the Labour Party's

:04:01. > :04:07.attitude was also made last year in May. I would hope that even if on

:04:07. > :04:11.so many issues Joanne Mamon to cannot bring the Labour Party into

:04:11. > :04:14.a more positive position, at least on this position she will now

:04:14. > :04:19.committed to supporting the legislation which will enshrine

:04:19. > :04:27.this in law, which will make available 600 hours to the families

:04:27. > :04:35.across Scotland. If we were in power in 2007, we would now be in a

:04:35. > :04:38.position... I can assure you, if you have worked out how important

:04:39. > :04:45.public provision was, perhaps you might have acted a little earlier

:04:45. > :04:51.rather than now. We worked this out a long time ago because what

:04:51. > :04:55.families Need Is action now. Not a clause in a children's Bill, and

:04:55. > :04:59.not a two year's delay. Families don't just need legislation in the

:04:59. > :05:04.future, they needed government now which will provide the funding to

:05:04. > :05:09.deliver reliable and affordable child care when people need it.

:05:09. > :05:13.First Minister, he has the power now. Why does he not exercise it?

:05:13. > :05:19.On Saturday, the First Minister promised a Bill. It might be news

:05:19. > :05:24.to him, but working families all over Scotland already have a bill.

:05:24. > :05:29.A bill for child care. It's a pretty expensive one. Families Need

:05:29. > :05:32.this support now. Why do we have to wait another two years for the

:05:32. > :05:40.First Minister to put a clause in a Bill, never mind actually

:05:40. > :05:43.delivering what people need? If the Labour Party was so keen on this

:05:43. > :05:53.issue, then why on earth didn't they implemented in the eight years

:05:53. > :05:58.they were in power? Why did we inherit 425 Abbas, which we

:05:58. > :06:05.increased to 475 bout was? If after eight years, when she was a

:06:05. > :06:09.minister, only then... I'm not surprised no one can hear this

:06:09. > :06:15.because it is inconvenient to have to remind them of the dreadful

:06:15. > :06:20.record of the Labour Party in government. If after their 80 years

:06:20. > :06:24.there was a conversion in 2007, which if only the Labour Party had

:06:24. > :06:28.been re-elected they would have implemented, then why didn't they

:06:28. > :06:32.implement it south of the border when Labour was still in

:06:32. > :06:36.government? The Record of the Labour Party up to 2007 in

:06:36. > :06:40.government was judged by the Scottish people harshly. The Record

:06:40. > :06:46.of the Labour Party in opposition to 2011 was judged by the Scottish

:06:46. > :06:50.people even more harshly. One of the key reasons for that dramatic

:06:50. > :06:55.failure, when she was the Deputy Leader of the party, but the total

:06:55. > :07:00.and absolute negativity. Can they please bring themselves at this

:07:00. > :07:06.stage to welcome an announcement to take the child care provision to

:07:06. > :07:15.600 hours, to benefit every single family across every area of

:07:15. > :07:20.If that's the First Minister being... God help the when he

:07:20. > :07:23.decides to start turning on me. Never mind as a minister. As a

:07:23. > :07:29.mother for eight years, I've got the benefit of what Labour did on

:07:29. > :07:39.child care. In Glasgow now all, with a Labour council, we've got

:07:39. > :07:46.

:07:46. > :07:50.STUDIO: Local government elections coming up. Order. What we have here

:07:50. > :07:54.is another episode of the tomorrow government. In two years time,

:07:54. > :07:59.maybe. Working families are struggling now and the First

:07:59. > :08:04.Minister simply doesn't get it. Fewer children in nursery, after-

:08:04. > :08:09.school clubs closing down and the child care on offer simply not

:08:09. > :08:13.meeting their needs. The First Minister said on Saturday, in

:08:13. > :08:23.devolved Scotland we can demand. In an independent Scotland we can

:08:23. > :08:33.

:08:33. > :08:37.That was for the children at the back there. He is so protective

:08:37. > :08:42.Dunn so predictable. What he really meant is that he won't deliver

:08:42. > :08:48.until he gets his way in a referendum. Talk about an abuse of

:08:48. > :08:53.power. Because the reality is, for the First Minister this issue is

:08:53. > :08:58.not about child care. It is about what really gets him excited, and

:08:58. > :09:03.that is the constitution. In this devolved Scotland, Family's can't

:09:03. > :09:08.wait, Won't Wait and we insist that he delivers for Scottish families

:09:08. > :09:11.now. Will the First Minister take this issue seriously, take the

:09:11. > :09:21.people of this country seriously and act now to help Scottish

:09:21. > :09:23.

:09:23. > :09:27.families? First Minister. After that, I think perhaps she should

:09:27. > :09:32.stay on script in the future of. I don't think that Glasgow council is

:09:32. > :09:39.her strongest suit at the present moment. You are losing councillors

:09:39. > :09:45.in Glasgow even quicker than you lost votes in the Scottish election.

:09:45. > :09:50.If what we inherited from Labour was so wonderful, then why did the

:09:50. > :09:54.last minority SNP government, as part of the concordat of local

:09:54. > :10:02.government, have to increase the provision from 425 hours, which we

:10:02. > :10:09.inherited, to 475 hours? In terms of looking forward, I was

:10:09. > :10:12.complemented about the 18 mentions of myself and her speech at the

:10:12. > :10:19.Labour Party conference two weeks ago. I think it's rather better to

:10:19. > :10:23.lay out policies, as we did at our conference, on the 2500 young

:10:23. > :10:27.people given a life opportunity, the �10 million additional

:10:27. > :10:34.Commonwealth Games legacy found that every SNP council in Scotland

:10:34. > :10:38.will introduce the living wage, as the SNP government has done. And to

:10:38. > :10:47.put into legislation, to give that guaranteed to families across

:10:47. > :10:52.Scotland of 600 hours of child care and Prix nursery education.

:10:52. > :10:56.Question number two. Do ask the First Minister when he will next

:10:56. > :10:59.meet the Secretary of State for Scotland? No plans for the near

:10:59. > :11:04.future. Earlier this week, the Scottish medicines consortium

:11:05. > :11:09.decided not to approve a drug to men in Scotland suffering from

:11:09. > :11:13.advanced prostate cancer. A drug which has been used so successfully

:11:13. > :11:17.to extend the life of Mr al-Megrahi, when the Scottish Government sent

:11:17. > :11:23.him home to die. In a battle against the cancer which caused so

:11:23. > :11:28.many are -- costs so many hundreds of Scottish men their lives every

:11:28. > :11:31.year, there have been few advances. This drug is one. Will the Minister

:11:31. > :11:38.act to give cancer sufferers greater access to important new

:11:38. > :11:46.drugs? It is a hugely serious and important issue. Everybody in this

:11:46. > :11:49.chamber recognises, as new drugs come onto the market place, it is

:11:49. > :11:56.totally understandable that people who are afflicted with serious

:11:56. > :12:01.conditions have a tremendous desire to see every new drug available. In

:12:01. > :12:05.all seriousness, the SMC process, which has been in Scotland now for

:12:05. > :12:09.10 years, is hugely and substantially admired because of

:12:09. > :12:13.its independence and its thoroughness. Over that 10 years

:12:14. > :12:18.there hasn't been a single case of any government overruling an

:12:18. > :12:23.essence -- and SMC judgment. There is a very substantial and good

:12:23. > :12:30.reason for that. What happens now is that the drug company concerned

:12:30. > :12:33.has indicated it is going to go back and resubmit. The SNC has the

:12:33. > :12:37.extraordinary and difficult task of judging the efficacy of the

:12:37. > :12:44.treatment against the budgetary constraints, which inevitably apply

:12:44. > :12:47.in any health service. If the position of the SMC or NICE when

:12:48. > :12:53.England was to accept every submission that came forward, it

:12:53. > :12:57.would be impossible to sustain the Budget. They have to do it in

:12:57. > :13:02.criteria. I do think Ruth Davidson should pay considerable attention

:13:02. > :13:05.to what and number of the cancer charities have been saying about

:13:05. > :13:10.the obligations on drugs companies with new drugs coming forward, to

:13:10. > :13:16.try and make them available to the National Health Service at a cost

:13:16. > :13:21.which can be afforded. The First Minister misrepresents what I was

:13:21. > :13:26.asking. I wasn't asking him to overrule the S M C, which is

:13:26. > :13:30.independent and thorough. There is an obvious solution. A Scottish

:13:30. > :13:34.cancer drugs fund. My predecessor, Annabel Goldie, raised it 14 months

:13:34. > :13:38.ago with the First Minister of. Conservative then met with him and

:13:38. > :13:42.his then Health Secretary. We have since brought it to the chamber for

:13:43. > :13:48.debate as lately as September. In other parts of the UK we have seen

:13:48. > :13:52.the huge impact that this can make on sufferers and their families. To

:13:52. > :13:58.date, 12,000 people have had their lives extended through the cancer

:13:58. > :14:02.drugs fund. What possible excuse does the First Minister have to

:14:02. > :14:08.refuse the same opportunity to cancer sufferers in Scotland? The

:14:08. > :14:10.government is about choices. The First Minister chose to find �50

:14:10. > :14:16.million to give free prescriptions to people like himself who can

:14:16. > :14:20.afford to pay for them. But he is choosing not to find a more modest

:14:20. > :14:25.sum to extend and approve the lives of Scots with fatal conditions.

:14:25. > :14:28.Will the First Minister now make a different choice? Were he now, 14

:14:28. > :14:38.months down the line and after countless premature deaths,

:14:38. > :14:39.

:14:39. > :14:45.reconsider, intervene and support a Ruth Davidson says that she did not

:14:45. > :14:52.suggest that ministers should overrule the SMC. Our health

:14:52. > :14:57.spokesman did. He should not have done that. That is a process that

:14:57. > :15:02.depends on its independence for its effectiveness. It is not the case

:15:02. > :15:06.that medicines, even those not approved by the SMC, cannot be made

:15:06. > :15:11.available to patients in Scotland. They have the prices of individual

:15:11. > :15:17.patient treatment requests. 126 medicines were requested through

:15:17. > :15:24.that process within NHS Scotland of medicines which are not approved by

:15:24. > :15:28.SNC as yet. 87 of these requests were approved. 39 were not approved.

:15:28. > :15:32.Ruth Davidson presents to this Chamber the question that the

:15:32. > :15:38.cancer drugs found initiative taking place in England is one

:15:38. > :15:45.which is substantially supported. Can I remind her that the cancer

:15:45. > :15:48.charity is issued a briefing paper for the Scottish parliamentary

:15:49. > :15:53.debate about whether or not Scotland should have cancer drugs

:15:53. > :16:01.found. And said, the cancer drugs than does not address the root

:16:01. > :16:05.causes of why patients may be denied access to treatment. Her own

:16:05. > :16:09.Tory MP colleague, quoted from 26th December last year, the Cancer

:16:10. > :16:15.Drugs Fund was set up to stop this kind of Lottery in my area. It is

:16:16. > :16:20.not fit for purpose and it is not working for the benefit of patients.

:16:20. > :16:24.So this gym but did consider the question of the Cancer Drugs Fund

:16:24. > :16:28.and paid attention to the many submissions that we received

:16:28. > :16:34.suggesting that that was not the best way forward. Can I suggest

:16:34. > :16:38.that the process we have in Scotland works effectively. 60% of

:16:38. > :16:43.the drugs which are very submitted on a more reasonable cost basis

:16:43. > :16:48.after initially being turned down by eight the S N C R then approved.

:16:48. > :16:53.I hope and believe that now that Ruth Davidson has said we should

:16:53. > :16:59.not interfere with that process will understand the necessity of

:17:00. > :17:07.that process. And now that she is aware, as I am sure she is, that

:17:07. > :17:10.the non approval of a drug that does not mean that there is still

:17:10. > :17:14.the prices of individual treatment requests wherein individual

:17:14. > :17:22.clinician can on the precise circumstances of the patient and

:17:22. > :17:26.argue on Fowler could full value. - - therapeutic value. I do believe

:17:26. > :17:30.that this Chamber, in terms of our responsibility to the people of

:17:30. > :17:33.Scotland, particularly those suffering from diseases, should be

:17:33. > :17:40.able to see the substance and efforts that of being made to

:17:40. > :17:44.enable to give people the best possible treatment.

:17:44. > :17:48.Given the highly critical report by the Accounts Commission into the

:17:49. > :17:53.Highlands and Islands rescue service which highlighted 35 sub-

:17:53. > :17:59.standard fire stations, lack of investment in vehicles and IT, and

:17:59. > :18:03.most damaging of an -- ball, the lack of training, equipment and

:18:03. > :18:06.health and safety resilience for firefighters. Can I just the first

:18:06. > :18:11.minster few ensure that a thorough review was not undertaken to find

:18:11. > :18:21.out how things went so badly wrong at this service and to help prevent

:18:21. > :18:25.this ever happening again. I think it is right and proper to give time

:18:25. > :18:30.for us to consider a response. By see that the meeting on Monday the

:18:30. > :18:33.19th is to consider possible terms of reference for an inquiry. I am

:18:33. > :18:37.pleased to see the most significant support from our other seven Fire

:18:37. > :18:41.and rescue services, including the secondment of a number of staff

:18:41. > :18:46.being made available to assist the board in addressing the challenges

:18:46. > :18:51.it faces. A single fire surface will have access to these wider

:18:51. > :18:56.management resources to deploy where they are most needed as a

:18:56. > :19:00.matter of course. Can I ask the First Minister, given

:19:00. > :19:04.the allegations in the recent biography and the price of the

:19:04. > :19:09.Crown action throughout the prosecution appeal process, if it

:19:09. > :19:13.is possible through the inquiries Act to instruct an independent

:19:13. > :19:21.examination for these examinations begin for the Crown and whether

:19:21. > :19:26.this might fall within the remit. The programme it -- the appropriate

:19:26. > :19:29.body is not the court of law. It is absolutely imperative that the

:19:29. > :19:33.commission are given the powers they need to release the full set

:19:33. > :19:38.statement of reasons in this case. I have to say that although,

:19:38. > :19:43.obviously, I welcome this closure, because we are trying to get the

:19:43. > :19:47.disclosure of the full report. I think that is imperative. By two

:19:47. > :19:51.not think that partial disclosure, particularly when it is down on a

:19:51. > :19:57.select bases, is assisting this debate, except for this. I cannot

:19:57. > :20:02.see any possible reason for having obstacles in the way of the full

:20:02. > :20:07.disclosure and publication of the complete report and I hope the

:20:07. > :20:12.Chamber can unite as far as possible to make sure that this

:20:12. > :20:16.happens. The First Minister may be aware

:20:16. > :20:22.from an article in today's Evening Times about the completely

:20:22. > :20:27.unacceptable treat ment of a 73 here stroke victim who was forced

:20:27. > :20:30.to try herself with pillowcases. I know of the health board have

:20:30. > :20:36.apologised to the lady and her family. She has spoken out because

:20:36. > :20:40.she does not want others to suffer the same experience. Can I ask what

:20:40. > :20:45.action the First Minister will take to ensure this does not happen

:20:45. > :20:49.again. I will discuss the matter with the

:20:49. > :20:54.Health Secretary and write to the member. Can I say that the

:20:54. > :20:57.individual case and people speaking out of a very important part of the

:20:57. > :21:01.process of constant improvement in our health service. These cases

:21:01. > :21:05.have to be dealt with and to the boards understand that on the

:21:05. > :21:08.processes are in place to make sure that happens. That should not

:21:08. > :21:11.deflect anybody in this Chamber from the recognition that our

:21:11. > :21:16.health service and our health service workers are held in the

:21:16. > :21:23.highest regard and indeed, higher regard than ever before in terms of

:21:23. > :21:27.public levels of satisfaction. What issues will be discussed at

:21:27. > :21:34.the next meeting of the Cabinet? Issues of importance to the people

:21:34. > :21:38.of Scotland. Last week, I want the First Minister that is unhealthy

:21:38. > :21:45.relationship with Rupert Murdoch. This week, the First Minister's old

:21:45. > :21:48.friend, Donald Trump, turned into a 41. Can I press him on another rich

:21:48. > :21:51.and powerful friend and his influence on Government policy? The

:21:51. > :21:56.first Munster will know that I agree with him on equal marriage

:21:56. > :21:59.for gay people. I want to remove the barriers that prevent the

:22:00. > :22:08.churches and other organisations from conducting same-sex marriages

:22:08. > :22:12.if they choose to. But a donor to SNP has well and it is about

:22:12. > :22:17.equality for gay people. Can the First Minister confirmed me that he

:22:17. > :22:27.will not give in to him and he will stand up for what is right for

:22:27. > :22:28.

:22:28. > :22:32.equal marriage? I understand that the Liberal Democrats the farce in

:22:32. > :22:36.politics as it used to be was to seek consensus and agreement and

:22:36. > :22:41.find areas where parties could unite together. Two things have

:22:41. > :22:47.happened. Even when the Liberal Democrat leader says he is seeking

:22:47. > :22:51.consensus, he manages to deploy in such a way as to try and make that

:22:51. > :22:55.consensus impossible. And secondly, people in Scotland did not realise

:22:55. > :22:59.that when the Liberals said they were seeking consensus before the

:22:59. > :23:08.last UK general election that the consensus in the City was the

:23:08. > :23:16.continuation of Westminster Tory rule in Scotland. Observers will

:23:16. > :23:21.note to the First Minister did not answer my question. It is simple.

:23:21. > :23:26.Can he guarantee you that he will not give in to what Brian Souter?

:23:26. > :23:31.Equal marriage will be a mark of a modern Scotland. Last Sunday saw a

:23:31. > :23:36.big push by some judges to block the change. The cardinal said it

:23:36. > :23:41.was grotesque. An archbishop said there was a duty to stop it. The

:23:41. > :23:46.group, Scotland for marriage, went to the absurd extreme of saying it

:23:46. > :23:50.opened the door for polygamy. These are serious forces against us. I do

:23:50. > :23:54.not want the argument to slip away from us. Can I ask the First

:23:54. > :24:02.Minister again, with the stand up to Brian Souter and will he take

:24:02. > :24:05.the lead for a -- for equality in Scotland? I do not think in terms

:24:05. > :24:10.of raising the issue to the level of debate that we hope and expect

:24:10. > :24:17.in Scotland. I do agree with will he Rennie incidently, I think that

:24:17. > :24:21.is something we should aspire to, but that requires all standards of

:24:21. > :24:25.the debate to live up to that. I made my views on this matter

:24:25. > :24:30.cleared during the election. They have not changed. The point is a

:24:30. > :24:33.very important one. We are in the process of consultation. That

:24:33. > :24:36.consultation has commenced. There has been a massive number of

:24:36. > :24:41.responses. It would be right and proper that that consultation

:24:41. > :24:46.process, the consideration of the evidence that is presented, is

:24:46. > :24:49.allowed to take its course. If I can just say, if this Chamber, and

:24:49. > :24:56.if the parties in it would get to an issue like equal status in

:24:56. > :25:00.marriage, which is an issue of a strong, moral matter and a strong

:25:01. > :25:04.matter of individual conscience, on these issues above all, it it was

:25:04. > :25:07.politicians while lecturing to the rest of society about the care they

:25:07. > :25:11.must take in terms of the language, but having a debate on an issue of

:25:11. > :25:14.principle that is worthy of the name of the parliament and indeed

:25:14. > :25:22.of the country, but the politicians themselves should try to rise to

:25:22. > :25:26.the challenge that they set to the people. Will the Scottish

:25:27. > :25:30.Government provide further information on its plans to improve

:25:30. > :25:35.childcare for pre-school children? Making a transformational change in

:25:35. > :25:39.childcare support for families, we are committed to making that shift.

:25:40. > :25:45.As the Member knows and as we have discussed already in this exchange,

:25:45. > :25:49.the last part of next year's Children's Bill will legislate from

:25:49. > :25:54.expansion from 400 Zante five and was to a minimum of 600 hours per

:25:54. > :26:02.year of funding ailing learning and childcare for all three and four

:26:02. > :26:06.euros and two year-olds who are looked after in Scotland. There

:26:06. > :26:13.will be a clear statement of faith in commission -- and commitment to

:26:13. > :26:16.the future. The early years task force will help us ensure the

:26:16. > :26:24.delivery of this is flexible to meet the needs of all of Scotland's

:26:24. > :26:26.families. There is far too much chatter. Could you please

:26:26. > :26:33.concentrate and that has hear what the member and the First Minister

:26:33. > :26:37.has to say. Can I find the First Minister for his response and

:26:37. > :26:41.welcome the Government's's commitment to extend childcare.

:26:41. > :26:45.Does the First Minister shared the concerns of Save the children that

:26:45. > :26:55.the introduction of universal care will make childcare costs more

:26:55. > :26:58.

:26:58. > :27:06.difficult for many families? Is it not time for this Parliament to

:27:06. > :27:11.have control over tax and benefits for Scottish families? I think the

:27:11. > :27:15.Chamber should be aware that the research from the Institute of

:27:15. > :27:18.Fiscal Studies says that the changes to the welfare system as a

:27:18. > :27:24.whole will increase the number of children in absolute poverty across

:27:24. > :27:29.the United Kingdom by 500,000 by 2015. Is that not an argument for

:27:29. > :27:35.why a win his powers over tax and benefits for the children of

:27:35. > :27:38.Scotland to protect them from poverty? It seems to me that the a

:27:38. > :27:42.disgruntled benches of the Labour Party have a very clear choice

:27:42. > :27:47.before them. Keeper backing Tory control over the benefits that will

:27:47. > :27:56.worsen child poverty or join with us and bring powers to Scotland so

:27:56. > :27:58.we can look after all of Scotland's children. Anand was the First

:27:58. > :28:04.Minister when the Scottish Government will announce its

:28:04. > :28:09.position on same-sex marriage. hugely important issues. We have

:28:09. > :28:13.received over 50,000 responses. The biggest response receive to any

:28:13. > :28:18.consultation. The responses are being collected and analysed. We

:28:18. > :28:22.expect to complete that prices over the coming months. Any Scottish

:28:22. > :28:26.Government proposals for equal marriage have the support of many

:28:26. > :28:28.members across the Chamber for have signed the equal marriage cloud.

:28:28. > :28:33.Come the First Minister confirm that the Government will not

:28:33. > :28:36.publish its response to last year's consultation until after local

:28:36. > :28:43.Government elections? Is a run a good reason why equal marriage

:28:43. > :28:48.cannot be achieved before the referendum of 2014? What can be

:28:48. > :28:52.published in terms of Government is heavily restricted, as indeed it

:28:52. > :28:57.should be. We are going through the consultation responses. We will

:28:57. > :29:02.make progress on that basis. I hope and believe that all members,

:29:02. > :29:06.regardless of the viewers, across this issue, will recognise the

:29:06. > :29:11.absolute critical importance on the subject, perhaps above all others.

:29:12. > :29:16.People on all sides of the bait, can genuinely say that the process,

:29:16. > :29:20.first of consultation and then of analysis and publication is genuine

:29:20. > :29:27.and a proper process. That is exactly the type of prices we

:29:27. > :29:32.intend to follow. We are coming to the close of our coverage with the

:29:33. > :29:36.issue being gay marriage right at the close field --. Earlier, a

:29:36. > :29:40.substantial discussion on the subject of child care and the drugs

:29:40. > :29:43.policy, which was very substantive indeed. Going into the

:29:43. > :29:51.philosophical basis of the provision of drugs treatment in