18/05/2017: First Minister's Questions

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:00:20. > :00:28.A very warm welcome to the Scottish Parliament, here at Holyrood. As we

:00:29. > :00:33.go on air, the conservative UK manifesto is being launched in

:00:34. > :00:39.Halifax. Perhaps some elements of that will filter through to the

:00:40. > :00:43.exchanges here. The prime event today at Holyrood is questions to

:00:44. > :00:49.the First Minister. Let's cross to the Chamber and my colleague, Nile

:00:50. > :00:56.Gallagher. Yes, don't change the channel, stay with us for First

:00:57. > :01:02.Minister's Questions. If you want to follow what is happening with the

:01:03. > :01:09.Conservative manifesto launch, do like the MSP are doing and watch it

:01:10. > :01:13.on your phone. What are the engagements for the Brit minister

:01:14. > :01:19.today? I will be on the leaders debate, which of course Theresa May

:01:20. > :01:22.is ducking. We don't have enough teachers in Scotland and given the

:01:23. > :01:25.fact that all sides accept this, does the First Minister agree with

:01:26. > :01:29.me that when young people here do choose teaching as a career we

:01:30. > :01:36.should do everything we can to ensure that they stay? As we have

:01:37. > :01:40.discussed before, Scotland in common with many other countries faces a

:01:41. > :01:45.challenge in teacher recruitment. That is why we are increasing the

:01:46. > :01:48.intake into initial teacher education, why the General teaching

:01:49. > :01:54.Council is looking to encourage more people into teaching and look at

:01:55. > :01:59.different routes into teaching. I suspect Ruth Davidson will ask next

:02:00. > :02:03.about teach first. I am open-minded to looking at ideas about how we get

:02:04. > :02:08.more young people into teaching but we have got to make sure that these

:02:09. > :02:11.ideas work for Scottish education, so we will continue to do everything

:02:12. > :02:18.we can to address the challenges we face. She raises the issue teach

:02:19. > :02:22.first let's have a look at it. This week we learned that in the last

:02:23. > :02:26.five years nearly 400 talented graduates have left Scotland to

:02:27. > :02:30.teach elsewhere in the UK. That is because they were attracted by the

:02:31. > :02:34.programme, very successful programme, which despite versions

:02:35. > :02:40.operating in 40 countries around the world still has not been allowed to

:02:41. > :02:43.step foot in Scotland. So that is 400 enthusiastic young teachers to

:02:44. > :02:48.pupae in our schools but aren't because Nicola Sturgeon says so. We

:02:49. > :02:53.have heard in recent days about the huge quality issues surrounding

:02:54. > :02:56.teacher training here, given that, come the First Minister give me a

:02:57. > :03:01.good reason why she is stopping new schemes like teach first but running

:03:02. > :03:07.here in Scotland and seeing if they can improve matters? I have met with

:03:08. > :03:12.teach first and discussed with them previously whether it would be

:03:13. > :03:22.possible to adapt their schemes to adapt to Scottish education. When I

:03:23. > :03:25.visited not long after I became First Minister as school in London

:03:26. > :03:30.that had taken part in the London challenge, and we did look carefully

:03:31. > :03:33.at the London challenge and incorporated some of its learning

:03:34. > :03:37.into our own attainment challenge. The headteacher in that school was

:03:38. > :03:42.sceptical about temp one. One thing she said at the time was that it was

:03:43. > :03:47.in her view, and they appreciate there would be other views, but it

:03:48. > :03:53.was quite short-term and it was a difficulty often in retaining those

:03:54. > :03:56.teachers. We will continue to discuss with the teaching profession

:03:57. > :04:01.and the local authorities how we make sure we get the brightest and

:04:02. > :04:04.best teachers into our schools. The General teaching Council has been

:04:05. > :04:09.looking at different ways of bringing young people into schools.

:04:10. > :04:14.Ruth Davidson doesn't talk about the pasta graduates in Scotland who to

:04:15. > :04:19.go into teaching. I want to encourage more of them to do so. We

:04:20. > :04:23.will continue to look at all of these issues as we drive forward

:04:24. > :04:27.with our determination to drive up standards in our schools and close

:04:28. > :04:32.the attainment gap between the richest and poorest. In the

:04:33. > :04:38.Amsterdam gave me a good reason why she won't let temp one work here, it

:04:39. > :04:43.was I spoke to a woman in London but they haven't closed my mind to That

:04:44. > :04:51.is exactly the first and so the First Minister give me in January

:04:52. > :04:59.2016, almost 18 months ago. Is there it is -- is there a decision in our

:05:00. > :05:02.future here? You have to question if the First Minister really

:05:03. > :05:07.understands the problem that we face because we have 4,000 fewer teachers

:05:08. > :05:12.than when she came to power. We aren't recruiting enough trainees to

:05:13. > :05:16.fill the gaps. We have 16% of training places for English unfilled

:05:17. > :05:23.and nearly a quarter for maths. She claims that her government is on top

:05:24. > :05:27.of this. Let me ask this, if she is, what percentage of secondary schools

:05:28. > :05:33.say that the lack of teachers is constraining the number of subjects

:05:34. > :05:37.they can offer? I have been very clear about the challenges we face a

:05:38. > :05:41.run teacher recruitment that is why John Swinney has been working with

:05:42. > :05:45.the general teachers Council to look into how we get more teachers and

:05:46. > :05:52.education but it is also why we have been increasing the intake into

:05:53. > :05:57.initial teacher education. As I said in relation to temp one, we have had

:05:58. > :06:02.initial discussions about whether that programme can be adapted for

:06:03. > :06:05.the particular circumstances of our education. We will continue to look

:06:06. > :06:08.at these issues in the round and drive forward the plans we are

:06:09. > :06:15.taking forward. The national improvement framework, which is

:06:16. > :06:18.already seeing reforms around school education, the attainment challenge,

:06:19. > :06:23.the attainment fund, the people equity fund in particular which as

:06:24. > :06:27.we speak is channelling resources into the hands of head teachers so

:06:28. > :06:59.they can drive the improvements they want to see in their schools. While

:07:00. > :07:01.we two-week Ruth Davidson gets up and asks about this, this government

:07:02. > :07:05.will get on with taking the action that binds the solutions. What a lot

:07:06. > :07:11.of waffle. I am pleased the First Minister thinks it is legitimate for

:07:12. > :07:12.me to ask questions about our failing education system. I think it

:07:13. > :07:14.is my duty to ask these questions. The question I asked was what

:07:15. > :07:16.proportion of our schools our constrained in the lessons they can

:07:17. > :07:17.teach, and the answer was 70%. That was the figure reported to the

:07:18. > :07:22.education committee. 70% of schools that can't offer the pupils they

:07:23. > :07:26.want to because her government has not recruited the teachers. Instead

:07:27. > :07:30.of facing this crisis, what do we get? This week we have seen

:07:31. > :07:35.backslapping of ten years in power while education has been getting

:07:36. > :07:39.worst. This is a First Minister who has provided over a teacher

:07:40. > :07:45.recruitment crisis, who has fallen asleep at the wheel on education.

:07:46. > :07:53.His response to bad test results is to take Scotland out of the tests.

:07:54. > :07:56.And knocks back ideas like temp one that she can't explain apart from

:07:57. > :08:01.some woman in London she has stopped too. Isn't it time that we had a

:08:02. > :08:07.First Minister in charge who does something about all of the mistakes,

:08:08. > :08:11.doesn't just admit them? The International summit of teaching

:08:12. > :08:14.experts that the Deputy First Minister attended just before Easter

:08:15. > :08:19.recognised there were teacher recruitment challenges across the

:08:20. > :08:24.world. Ruth Davidson to suggest this is a problem unique to Scotland I

:08:25. > :08:28.think is unfortunate. I think it is unfortunate that we two-week she

:08:29. > :08:34.stands up here and rightly points to areas where we need to improve but

:08:35. > :08:38.repeatedly fails to talk about the improvements we are seeing in

:08:39. > :08:43.Scottish education. The fact that in our schools are young people are

:08:44. > :08:49.coming out with record high passes, record advanced higher passes. We

:08:50. > :09:01.have more young people achieving national five qualifications. We are

:09:02. > :09:05.starting to see on a number of indicators the beginning of the

:09:06. > :09:10.closing of the gap between the richest and poorest. I am the first

:09:11. > :09:13.to admit there is much more to do, but Ruth Davidson should stop doing

:09:14. > :09:21.a disservice to teachers and pupils across this country... By using

:09:22. > :09:26.terms like a failing education system. We do not have a failing

:09:27. > :09:37.education system in Scotland and Ruth Davidson should be ashamed

:09:38. > :09:40.standing up here suggesting we do. Questionable to. What engagement she

:09:41. > :09:44.has planned for the rest of the week.

:09:45. > :09:47.Engagements to take forward the Programme for Government in

:09:48. > :09:51.Scotland. Yesterday, the First Minister and I've met with Brendan

:09:52. > :09:54.Cox, the husband of Jo Cox and at that meeting the First Minister

:09:55. > :10:00.rightly agreed that there is no place for abuse of any kind in our

:10:01. > :10:05.political debate. A few weeks ago a prominent Internet bloggers said of

:10:06. > :10:12.Oliver Mundell, a member of this Parliament, that he is the sort of

:10:13. > :10:17.public speaker who made you wish that his dad had embraced his

:10:18. > :10:22.homosexuality is sooner. There is no place in society for homophobia like

:10:23. > :10:28.this, which he agree with me? Of course I do. For Kezia Dugdale to

:10:29. > :10:34.get up here and suggest in any way shape or form that I would condone

:10:35. > :10:40.homophobia I think is deeply unfortunate. It was the kind of

:10:41. > :10:43.issue we were all discussing with Brendan Cox yesterday, all of us

:10:44. > :10:51.should make very clear that that kind of language, any form of abuse

:10:52. > :10:57.of any minority or any politician of that nature is completely

:10:58. > :11:02.unacceptable. I see a abuse on a daily basis being hurled at me, at

:11:03. > :11:08.my colleagues, people on my side of the political spectrum and I don't

:11:09. > :11:13.hold Kezia Dugdale personally responsible for that, so we should

:11:14. > :11:17.all join together and save that that kind of abuse is unacceptable and at

:11:18. > :11:26.least have this as an issue on which we have consensus and not division.

:11:27. > :11:30.I very much welcome that response from the First Minister. Of course,

:11:31. > :11:35.this was a remark posted on Twitter by Stuart Campbell, who writes for

:11:36. > :11:39.the website wins over Scotland. In the Daily Record I call but Mr

:11:40. > :11:42.Campbell for his homophobic comments. People should listen to

:11:43. > :11:48.this if they are serious about tackling homophobia and abuse in all

:11:49. > :11:53.of its forms. Mr Campbell has written to me through his lawyer to

:11:54. > :11:58.demand a ?10,000 payment for, and they could, damage to reputation.

:11:59. > :12:02.Presiding Officer, I stand firmly by my comments, I have never quite tied

:12:03. > :12:10.to believe and I will not start today. There is a catalogue of

:12:11. > :12:16.evidence that demonstrates the file that Stuart Campbell thinks is

:12:17. > :12:21.acceptable. Given that we are in the general election campaign, will the

:12:22. > :12:30.First Minister today condemned wins over Scotland and anyone else who

:12:31. > :12:31.poisons political debate in our country? I just have condemned

:12:32. > :12:35.anybody he indulges in that kind of language or abuse. I am not

:12:36. > :12:38.responsible for Stuart Campbell any more than Kezia Dugdale is

:12:39. > :12:45.responsible for people who hurl abuse at me in the name of being a

:12:46. > :12:50.supporter of the Labour Party. Let's cut to the chase about what is going

:12:51. > :12:54.on here. Kezia Dugdale is asking me about this today because she hopes

:12:55. > :13:00.it means I won't be able to remind her that her colleagues in Aberdeen

:13:01. > :13:07.yesterday voted for a Tory Administration there. What we are

:13:08. > :13:10.seeing here today is a bit of a political smoke screen. Let me put

:13:11. > :13:15.it beyond any doubt, I condemn anybody who hurls abuse on social

:13:16. > :13:20.media or anywhere else and all of us should do that. The abuse I see

:13:21. > :13:32.directed at me on a daily basis would make somebody's carer Carol,

:13:33. > :13:38.and some of it does come from people professing to be supporters of Kezia

:13:39. > :13:44.Dugdale's party. I do not alter personally responsible for that and

:13:45. > :13:47.I think we should accept that there are people out there and we should

:13:48. > :13:50.all united in condemning it. APPLAUSE. When my colleagues do

:13:51. > :13:52.something I disagree with I take action. I am asking the First

:13:53. > :14:25.Minister to do the same stop the A few SNP politicians have called

:14:26. > :14:31.him out. 44% of SNP MSPs and 50% of SNP MPs have actively encouraged him

:14:32. > :14:37.along. I have the list here. It includes ten government ministers.

:14:38. > :14:46.The Finance Secretary. The Justice Secretary and the Transport

:14:47. > :14:50.Minister. As leaders we have a duty to stand up when it becomes an

:14:51. > :14:55.outlet for aggression, intolerance and hatred. I want to have the First

:14:56. > :15:01.Minister act clearly yes or no question. Will she today order her

:15:02. > :15:09.politicians and her own ministers to denounce and shun wings over

:15:10. > :15:15.Scotland once and for all? APPLAUSE. I've follow thousands of people on

:15:16. > :15:20.twitter and I am followed by hundreds of thousands of people on

:15:21. > :15:27.twitter. Is Kezia Dugdale really trying to say, if I was to go

:15:28. > :15:33.through Kezia Dugdale's tweets or members of her group or her party,

:15:34. > :15:36.and I came up with tweets that were somehow unsavoury in some way, is

:15:37. > :15:41.she really saying that she would hold herself personally responsible

:15:42. > :15:50.for that? This is absolutely ridiculous. I am unequivocally,

:15:51. > :15:57.condemn abuse of any kind. I have a list here of abuse that has been

:15:58. > :16:07.hurled by many people who are not a Tory councillors in Scotland. I have

:16:08. > :16:17.had abuse from people who have been members of the Labour Party, I have

:16:18. > :16:19.been called a fascist and a Nazi, or my party has by Ian Smart, who was a

:16:20. > :16:20.senior member of the Labour Party and they didn't hold Kezia Dugdale

:16:21. > :16:24.responsible. Let's cut to the chase here. This is a smoke screen being

:16:25. > :16:32.erected by Kezia Dugdale today. Because her party is in disarray, it

:16:33. > :16:37.is in Civil War, it is in meltdown and as leader of the party, she is

:16:38. > :16:41.directing this at me to hide one simple fact, as leader of the

:16:42. > :16:46.Scottish Labour Party, she is not in control of the room party because

:16:47. > :16:50.she can't stop councillors going into coalition with Tories up and

:16:51. > :16:53.down the country. That is why she is asking about this today as a smoke

:16:54. > :17:02.screen to protect yourself against the State of a room party.

:17:03. > :17:11.Some constituency questions. Thank you. I wonder if the First Minister

:17:12. > :17:14.would join me in welcoming the Government's victory against the

:17:15. > :17:21.judgment blocking the development of offshore wind farms, a victory that

:17:22. > :17:24.is good news for Scotland and the climate change and jobs front and

:17:25. > :17:28.would she encouraged the RSPB who instigated the original action to

:17:29. > :17:33.accept the appeal decision and resolve the concerns by working with

:17:34. > :17:38.the developers on, for example, the sympathetic sighting of wind

:17:39. > :17:44.turbines? I do very much welcome the judgment. I think the development of

:17:45. > :17:48.offshore wind is important, not just for environmental reasons, but also

:17:49. > :17:54.economic development Scotland and I hope this means these developments

:17:55. > :17:59.can continue. What happens now is a decision for the RSPB. I hope we

:18:00. > :18:04.will see an end to the court action. I would also say and I hope the RSPB

:18:05. > :18:08.will listen to this because protecting the environment is really

:18:09. > :18:12.important and I know they have legitimate concerns about this so I

:18:13. > :18:16.would want to say very clearly to them and others that we want to make

:18:17. > :18:20.sure we work in a way to allow the development of offshore wind for the

:18:21. > :18:24.benefits it brings but does so with the protection of the environment

:18:25. > :18:29.very much paramount. I hope we can move forward on that basis. Thank

:18:30. > :18:34.you, Presiding Officer. The first Mr may be aware that an estate agency

:18:35. > :18:41.based in Edinburgh is demanding a buyer's premium fee. If prospective

:18:42. > :18:44.buyers do not agree to pay it, the property is offered to the next

:18:45. > :18:48.bidder who can pay it. The constituent spent 12 years saving

:18:49. > :18:57.for his first flat and is now expected to pay a fee of over ?2000.

:18:58. > :19:03.Does she agree it is an example of unscrupulous practice and will her

:19:04. > :19:08.government look into this issue and assessed the legality of the

:19:09. > :19:12.practice? Does the First Minister agree that the subject matter of the

:19:13. > :19:18.estate agents act should be devolved so that this parliament has the full

:19:19. > :19:22.powers over matters relating to the acquisition of land and property? I

:19:23. > :19:27.am happy to look into this matter. I agree these powers should be

:19:28. > :19:34.devolved. The regulation of estate agents is currently covered by

:19:35. > :19:39.consumer protection in the Scotland Act. I absolutely agree that fees

:19:40. > :19:44.charged by estate agents should be completely transparent and I'm

:19:45. > :19:53.stunned the Scottish Government has recently received one complaint

:19:54. > :20:00.about a buyer's premium -- I understand. I will write to the

:20:01. > :20:03.member on this matter. The NHS Grampian this week announced it can

:20:04. > :20:09.no longer guarantees surgery within 12 weeks of diagnosis. It is not in

:20:10. > :20:14.a position to meet the targets she has set. Will her government step up

:20:15. > :20:19.and provide them with the funding it should receive under the

:20:20. > :20:25.Government's own formula, a formula which is now nearly ten years old

:20:26. > :20:29.and has still not been delivered? We have moved health boards closer to

:20:30. > :20:35.parity, as it is called, than was the case when we took office and

:20:36. > :20:40.under the formula we continue to do that. On the specific issue raised,

:20:41. > :20:44.we are clear with all health boards that patiently waiting for treatment

:20:45. > :20:49.such as elective surgery must be seen as seen as quickly as possible

:20:50. > :20:53.and it is important patients with the highest clinical priorities such

:20:54. > :20:57.as cancer patients are seen extremely quickly. We are investing

:20:58. > :21:06.additional resources and we have been working with NHS prank in --

:21:07. > :21:12.NHS prank which we will announce soon to help build up capacity to

:21:13. > :21:16.make sure all patients are treated in a timely fashion. We see waiting

:21:17. > :21:20.times now lower than they were when this government took office but we

:21:21. > :21:24.also see demand on the health service continuing to rise, mainly

:21:25. > :21:28.due to the ageing population. We must continue to work with health

:21:29. > :21:30.boards and make sure they have the required resources to continue to

:21:31. > :21:42.deliver the standard of service patients deserve. My constituent

:21:43. > :21:48.Doctor who lives with his wife and two children is going to be deported

:21:49. > :21:52.on the 11th of June. The Glasgow University lecturer has recently

:21:53. > :21:58.been awarded ?1.32 million research grant from the UK Government which

:21:59. > :22:02.employs a further three people. The Home Office has repeatedly given him

:22:03. > :22:10.the wrong information which has led to this personal crisis. A Canadian

:22:11. > :22:14.national, his wife qualifies for UK citizenship and one of his children

:22:15. > :22:20.was born in the UK. Would the First Minister intervene in this case to

:22:21. > :22:31.assist allowing the doctor to remain here in Scotland and continue his

:22:32. > :22:37.valuable work? Obviously, I do not know the details of the case, but I

:22:38. > :22:40.would be very happy to look into the detail and see if there is anything

:22:41. > :22:45.the Scottish Government can do to appeal to the Home Office to see

:22:46. > :22:48.sense, if indeed that is what is required. I think the case he has

:22:49. > :22:56.outlined in terms of the details is shared with the Chamber today do

:22:57. > :22:57.seem to illustrate the complete wrong-headedness of the UK

:22:58. > :23:04.Government's approach to immigration. We see today as the

:23:05. > :23:09.Tories publish the manifesto a recommitment to an immigration

:23:10. > :23:12.target that they know is not deliverable but they know that in

:23:13. > :23:16.the process of trying to deliver the target they will do and hull damage

:23:17. > :23:22.to not just the Scottish economy but the UK economy as a whole -- untold

:23:23. > :23:25.damage. Today they are publishing proposals to increase the amount of

:23:26. > :23:32.money employers have to pay if they wanted employee skilled migrants

:23:33. > :23:36.from outside of the EU. As the BMA have pointed out, it includes

:23:37. > :23:39.doctors and nurses and other people working in our health service. Not

:23:40. > :23:44.only will we make it harder to recruit people into the health

:23:45. > :23:49.service, harder perhaps to recruit people into the teaching profession

:23:50. > :23:52.from outside this country, but we will also charge our public services

:23:53. > :23:59.when they are trying to do so. This really sums up the fact that the UK

:24:00. > :24:03.are pursuing an immigration policy damaging to the economy of the

:24:04. > :24:07.country and of course they are trying... They are doing it as they

:24:08. > :24:12.are increasingly morphing into Ukip and that I think makes it all the

:24:13. > :24:15.more important that after this general election there are strong

:24:16. > :24:19.voices standing up to the Tories and making sure Scotland's interests in

:24:20. > :24:30.this and so many other areas are properly protected. Patrick Harvie.

:24:31. > :24:38.When will the Cabinet next meet? Tuesday. A few days ago, the Prime

:24:39. > :24:43.Minister showed how hugely in touch she is with the priorities of the

:24:44. > :24:47.country by declaring that she has always supported fox hunting and

:24:48. > :24:49.maintains a commitment to its reintroduction. Today the

:24:50. > :24:56.Conservative manifesto promises a step backwards in the introducing

:24:57. > :24:59.this cruel and barbaric act to parts of these islands. It was also

:25:00. > :25:18.revealed one of Ruth Davidson's former colleagues who resigned is a

:25:19. > :25:19.member of a fox hunting club in Scotland claiming it was part of her

:25:20. > :25:20.way of life. An estimated 800 foxes are killed by hunts each year in

:25:21. > :25:21.Scotland. Many are killed by hounds rather than being shot, in clear

:25:22. > :25:24.breach of the act. The First Minister will be aware of the huge

:25:25. > :25:28.amount of anger and concern there is among members of the public about

:25:29. > :25:33.this issue. Does she agree with those members of the public who are

:25:34. > :25:39.contacting all parties to demand a ban on this brutal act? The sheer

:25:40. > :25:41.agree with her own party leader at Westminster who says he totally

:25:42. > :25:48.opposes fox hunting and if she does, will the law in Scotland totally

:25:49. > :25:51.oppose fox hunting? Before I come onto the position of the Scottish

:25:52. > :25:55.Government, I think it says a lot about the priorities of Theresa May

:25:56. > :25:59.and the Tories when they go out of their way to deny parliament any say

:26:00. > :26:04.over the hugely important issues associated with exit and yet they

:26:05. > :26:10.are committed to giving Parliament a free vote on Read reviews in fox

:26:11. > :26:17.hunting -- associated with Brexit. They have got completely the wrong

:26:18. > :26:20.priorities. Obviously, when David Cameron was talking about this

:26:21. > :26:24.previously, it raised an issue about the differences between the law in

:26:25. > :26:28.England and in Scotland and at that point, we committed to looking at

:26:29. > :26:34.loopholes in the Scottish law, Patrick Harvie will be aware, we

:26:35. > :26:38.have had people look at this in detail and we are considering the

:26:39. > :26:42.recommendations and considering whether changes in the law required.

:26:43. > :26:47.I do understand the concerns of the people who are writing to us, as I

:26:48. > :26:51.have always been an opponent of fox hunting and I remain an opponent of

:26:52. > :26:54.fox hunting and we need to make sure the operation of the law in Scotland

:26:55. > :27:02.is appropriate and that is what the process is intended to ensure. I

:27:03. > :27:05.think the very many people contacting politicians at the moment

:27:06. > :27:10.on this issue will want to clear up the answer about what is proposed in

:27:11. > :27:15.Scotland. The review was welcome but it followed a very narrow remit,

:27:16. > :27:20.defined by the Scottish Government which specifically excluded

:27:21. > :27:27.consideration of a full ban and indeed his Lordship himself said

:27:28. > :27:32.that he always had in notion that there must be a way of preserving

:27:33. > :27:36.fox hunting and said that he was not minded to abolish fox hunting but to

:27:37. > :27:41.find a way of maintaining it. Whilst some of the proposals may go beyond

:27:42. > :27:47.the status quo, they would be tantamount to proposing the Scottish

:27:48. > :27:51.Government endorses a form of regulated fox hunting. If the

:27:52. > :27:55.Scottish Government means to consult openly on this issue, can the First

:27:56. > :28:02.Minister confirmed the consultation will include consideration of a

:28:03. > :28:20.complete ban on mounted fox hunting in Scotland customer failing that,

:28:21. > :28:20.removing the exemption in the act that allows flushing foxes to guns

:28:21. > :28:22.given the significant evidence this is used as a decoy for traditional

:28:23. > :28:22.brutal and barbaric fox hunting? While I understand the concerns

:28:23. > :28:26.people are expecting and share some of the concerns, I think Patrick

:28:27. > :28:29.Harvie Miss characterises the position of the Scottish Government.

:28:30. > :28:33.The exemptions in the current laws are exemptions that were debated and

:28:34. > :28:38.agreed by this Parliament, I appreciate before I think Patrick

:28:39. > :28:44.Harvie was a member. There was a member 's Bill brought forward and

:28:45. > :28:51.these issues were fully debated at that time. There have been concerns

:28:52. > :28:54.raised about what I am describing as loopholes and whether we need to

:28:55. > :29:01.tighten the law further. We have embarked on a process. We have had

:29:02. > :29:07.the Lord look at this in detail. We are now consulting on what the Lord

:29:08. > :29:10.has said and given it is a live consultation, we should allow it to

:29:11. > :29:16.take its course. If Patrick Harvie wants to consult to the

:29:17. > :29:21.consultation, if he has, I apologise, but if he has not he can

:29:22. > :29:25.consult and argue for it to go further. We should go forward with

:29:26. > :29:31.this process and that is the right thing to do. Be under no doubt at

:29:32. > :29:35.all, this government opposes fox hunting and that is the position we

:29:36. > :29:40.have long taken and a position we continue to take.

:29:41. > :29:46.What issues will be discussed at the next meeting of the Cabinet? Matters

:29:47. > :29:52.of importance to the people of Scotland. Children in Lothian waited

:29:53. > :29:57.666 days to get important mental health treatment. For anyone, that

:29:58. > :30:02.must feel like a lifetime. For a person so young, that must feel like

:30:03. > :30:07.eternity. Why are waiting times so bad when the First Minister said it

:30:08. > :30:11.would be a priority? It is a priority and is Willie Rennie nose,

:30:12. > :30:13.and I should say that there are still some long waits for mental

:30:14. > :30:18.health treatment that are acceptable, but we are making

:30:19. > :30:24.progress in bringing waiting times down. -- that are unacceptable. We

:30:25. > :30:30.have seen the number of people working in these services increase

:30:31. > :30:33.as well. This is a priority and they know it is a priority not just for

:30:34. > :30:38.this government before parties across the chamber and we will

:30:39. > :30:40.continue to bring forward the investment and other actions

:30:41. > :30:44.required to make sure that all young people coming forward for mental

:30:45. > :30:51.health treatment get that treatment and in a timely way. This is true of

:30:52. > :30:55.many of the challenges we grapple with the health service, but it is

:30:56. > :30:58.particularly true here, that we have vastly increased demand for mental

:30:59. > :31:03.health services, which is something we should think of as a good thing

:31:04. > :31:06.because it means the stigma is reducing, but it does mean we need

:31:07. > :31:11.to equip the services to deal with that. We are seeing improvement in

:31:12. > :31:15.waiting times and investment and the numbers working in mental health

:31:16. > :31:21.services and we will make sure that improvement continues. We have heard

:31:22. > :31:26.that all before. I will cope what you said last year. And I has to

:31:27. > :31:32.First Minister she told me this. This is one of the most serious

:31:33. > :31:36.issues we face as a society. When we discussed this suit your budget

:31:37. > :31:40.process, we discovered that the government was much further behind

:31:41. > :31:45.than even we had feared. Children in Lothian are not alone. In the ten

:31:46. > :31:52.tier of her government, the weight in the Highlands the 623 days. In

:31:53. > :32:00.Fife, 611 days, in Grampian it is a year. The government published

:32:01. > :32:05.independent legislation in weeks but it took 15 months to get round to

:32:06. > :32:09.the mental health strategy. These children deserve better from this

:32:10. > :32:12.government and First Minister. Will those children still be waiting as

:32:13. > :32:19.long next year or is she going to do something different? Willie Rennie

:32:20. > :32:26.is completely mischaracterising the position of the government. The

:32:27. > :32:31.facts speak for themselves. I recognise the challenge of improving

:32:32. > :32:38.services. That is why the workforce has increased by just under 50%

:32:39. > :32:43.under this government, spending on mental health has increased by 42%.

:32:44. > :32:50.In this year alone, spending will increase to ?1 billion for the first

:32:51. > :32:53.time and we continue to take steps to ensure that mental health

:32:54. > :33:05.services get an increasing share of the overall help budget. There are,

:33:06. > :33:10.although we are seeing waiting times reduced generally, there are some

:33:11. > :33:16.long waits which we are seeking to tackle, but to put that in context

:33:17. > :33:23.there is now 82.5% seen within 18 weeks, which is a 3.5% increase from

:33:24. > :33:27.the last quarter. I don't pretend that we don't still have work to do

:33:28. > :33:32.here, it is a feature of the increasing demand we are seeing, but

:33:33. > :33:39.the investment, the workforce and the progress in reducing waiting

:33:40. > :33:43.times is also there to see. Our mental health strategy contains a

:33:44. > :33:46.range of actions that focus rightly on the prevention and early

:33:47. > :33:51.intervention to meet the mental health needs of children and young

:33:52. > :34:01.people and to step in and promptly when they develop, so for example a

:34:02. > :34:06.review of Pastoral services and referrals. Willie Rennie is right to

:34:07. > :34:10.say this is a challenge that we need to address, but he is wrong to say

:34:11. > :34:17.we are not taking the action to address it because we definitely

:34:18. > :34:30.are. A couple of supplementary is. Joan McAlpine. No? Today the Israeli

:34:31. > :34:35.ambassador is in the Scottish parliament. Will the first

:34:36. > :34:40.representative or a representative of the government meeting him? If

:34:41. > :34:44.so, could they deliver alive message that after 50 years of Palestinian

:34:45. > :34:49.oppression that the illegal occupation of the West Bank must

:34:50. > :34:54.end? That the illegal expansion of settlements must end? That the

:34:55. > :35:00.illegal seas on Gaza must end? And they must allow free access of food,

:35:01. > :35:05.medicines and supplies into the Gaza Strip. And that he understands that

:35:06. > :35:09.without justice, without the quality and without freedom, there can never

:35:10. > :35:17.be peace. APPLAUSE. Fiona Hyslop will meet the

:35:18. > :35:22.Israeli ambassador later today and she will deliver our behalf of the

:35:23. > :35:26.Scottish Government a strong message on justice for Palestine and for

:35:27. > :35:31.Palestinians covering the very issues that he raises. This

:35:32. > :35:34.government has been clear in our support for people in Gaza and the

:35:35. > :35:42.range of injustices -- injustices that they suffer. I have led to

:35:43. > :35:49.bathe in this chamber about Gaza in the past and ultimately we remain

:35:50. > :35:53.committed to the two state solution in Palestine, so that message will

:35:54. > :36:01.be delivered strongly of behalf of the Scottish Government by Fiona

:36:02. > :36:06.Hyslop today. Given the actions of the Labour council group in Aberdeen

:36:07. > :36:09.and reports of two further deals between Labour and Conservatives,

:36:10. > :36:12.does the First Minister agreed that the clear message to voters is that

:36:13. > :36:22.if you vote Labour you will get Tory? In large part of the countries

:36:23. > :36:26.it certainly seems to be the case. This is a serious point. Labour

:36:27. > :36:32.votes in Aberdeen yesterday were used to put the Tories into

:36:33. > :36:35.administration. That should say something to everybody who might be

:36:36. > :36:40.considering voting Labour in the future, that if you vote Labour at

:36:41. > :36:48.you often get Labour, you get the Tories. That is the reality. Perhaps

:36:49. > :36:55.Kezia Dugdale will want to take the opportunity of just making it clear

:36:56. > :36:58.that the suspensions of the Aberdeen councillors yesterday will

:36:59. > :37:04.miraculously be waved away after the 8th of June. So perhaps at the first

:37:05. > :37:08.opportunity Kezia Dugdale Cattell is that because I expect this and is

:37:09. > :37:12.the general election is out of the way we will see these Labour Tory

:37:13. > :37:16.coalition is taking affect all over the country and I think that says

:37:17. > :37:21.everything we need to know about Labour and the Tories and the

:37:22. > :37:29.alliance between the two of them. Sandra White. Can I has to First

:37:30. > :37:31.Minister what action the Scottish Government is taken to tackle

:37:32. > :37:36.homelessness in Glasgow and across the country? The Scottish Government

:37:37. > :37:39.has ensured that homeless people in Scotland have some of the strongest

:37:40. > :37:45.housing rights anywhere in the world. Our focus on the prevention

:37:46. > :37:50.of homelessness has led to consistent falls in homelessness

:37:51. > :37:54.applications including in Glasgow. There is more to do to address rough

:37:55. > :38:00.sleeping. Providing a home is not the only support that vulnerable

:38:01. > :38:04.people need. That is why our current priorities include strengthening the

:38:05. > :38:09.development of approaches like housing first, piloted in Glasgow,

:38:10. > :38:12.which provides permanent accommodation alongside intensive

:38:13. > :38:18.peer support to help people with complex needs sustained their

:38:19. > :38:21.accommodation. I thank the First Minister for that supply and the

:38:22. > :38:28.support of homeless people in Glasgow. I want to say to everyone,

:38:29. > :38:32.I'm sure we all think it is unacceptable that in the country as

:38:33. > :38:37.rich as Scotland should have anybody dying on the streets because of

:38:38. > :38:40.homelessness. Does she share my deep concern is that homelessness will be

:38:41. > :38:44.made worse in Glasgow and the rest of Scotland with the move to

:38:45. > :38:48.Universal Credit, delays in payments, and the UK Government's

:38:49. > :38:56.welfare changes will put more people at risk of being homeless and this

:38:57. > :38:59.is unacceptable? Yes, I do. Let me just underline how important it is

:39:00. > :39:04.to this government to continue to tackle homelessness and rough

:39:05. > :39:08.sleeping. I know that is a key priority of what they hope will be

:39:09. > :39:14.the new administration of Glasgow City Council by the end of today and

:39:15. > :39:18.we will work with them to make sure we don't have a position where

:39:19. > :39:22.people are sleeping rough and anybody is facing the prospect of

:39:23. > :39:26.dying on the streets of our country. That is an unacceptable situation

:39:27. > :39:32.and I will not let that happen in our country. On benefit changes,

:39:33. > :39:34.this is an important point. I was in Inverness last week visiting a

:39:35. > :39:39.foodbank and talking to people who work front line with benefit

:39:40. > :39:44.applicants in Inverness. The reason Inverness is important is because it

:39:45. > :39:47.is a part of Scotland would Universal Credit has already been

:39:48. > :39:55.ruled out. The experience there should send shivers up our spines at

:39:56. > :39:57.the thought of Universal Credit being rolled out more widely,

:39:58. > :40:03.because their experiences of people's benefits being hugely

:40:04. > :40:07.delayed, people not getting the money they are entitled to on time,

:40:08. > :40:11.not getting all of the money they are entitled to. People have fallen

:40:12. > :40:22.into rent arrears, into debt, all through no fault of their own. Many

:40:23. > :40:26.of the people who are finding themselves in these positions are

:40:27. > :40:30.people who are working. They are working hard to try to support their

:40:31. > :40:34.families and are being treated in this way by a Conservative

:40:35. > :40:38.government that is ruling out these benefit changes that are not fit for

:40:39. > :40:42.purpose. I think the roll-out of Universal Credit should be halted

:40:43. > :40:46.until the Tories can assure everybody that they have got it

:40:47. > :40:51.right because the price of not doing that and carrying all is to plunge

:40:52. > :41:00.many more people into misery and potential homelessness. That would

:41:01. > :41:03.be unforgivable. Anywhere else. In April, third sector organisations

:41:04. > :41:07.emphasise the need once again for the Scottish Government to develop a

:41:08. > :41:11.new national homelessness strategy. Will the First Minister listen to

:41:12. > :41:17.their concerns and commit government to developing the strategy? We will

:41:18. > :41:22.continue to work with organisations like shelter to ensure that we have

:41:23. > :41:28.the right tactical policies in place to back up those strategies. We have

:41:29. > :41:32.some of the strongest rights for homeless people in Scotland and we

:41:33. > :41:36.have seen consistent falls in homelessness applications, but we do

:41:37. > :41:42.know we have to keep making Gress and we have an issue around rough

:41:43. > :41:45.sleeping. I would repeat the point I have just made, particularly to a

:41:46. > :41:50.Conservative member of this Parliament, any strategy we have on

:41:51. > :41:53.homelessness or tackling poverty and lifting people out of poverty is

:41:54. > :41:57.going to continue to be undermined as long as we have a Conservative

:41:58. > :42:02.government at Westminster that is intent on driving more and more

:42:03. > :42:06.people into poverty by cruel and callous Social Security cuts, so

:42:07. > :42:10.either to the question back to the Tories. By have detailed your bosses

:42:11. > :42:20.in London does not penalise and the poor and work with us to help them

:42:21. > :42:24.instead? Colleen McNeill. There is anecdotal evidence at least

:42:25. > :42:28.that rough sleeping is increasing in Scotland. Most people you talk to

:42:29. > :42:36.save the noise see more people sleeping in doorways. Few things are

:42:37. > :42:39.more shocking than people dying from called or hunger on the streets of

:42:40. > :42:49.Scotland. I know there are many reasons why this might be the case.

:42:50. > :42:54.I urge you to review the current strategy on housing and rough

:42:55. > :42:59.sleeping. To review the fact that Google authorities may need more

:43:00. > :43:03.resources to take this autumn, to review the fact that although the

:43:04. > :43:08.figures may not there at their side, that the evidence is strong enough

:43:09. > :43:11.to review the strategy that we currently have. I know that the

:43:12. > :43:18.First Minister has already agreed to look at some of the issues I raised

:43:19. > :43:21.last time, housing first, I know she is committed to this, but in all

:43:22. > :43:25.seriousness when you have have had deaths as we have seen on the

:43:26. > :43:31.streets of Glasgow, is it not time to have another look at the strategy

:43:32. > :43:35.that you currently have? Indeed it wouldn't be, which is why we are

:43:36. > :43:39.taking action to help councils deal with these issues. In terms of the

:43:40. > :43:43.statistics around rough sleeping, and I will cite the statistics of

:43:44. > :43:49.the degree of caution because many of us would think there has been

:43:50. > :43:53.under reporting. The statistics do not show an increase over the past

:43:54. > :44:00.three years, they show a steady state. I do not underestimate the

:44:01. > :44:05.fact that there may be an under reporting in the statistics. We are

:44:06. > :44:09.already taking action to strengthen the homelessness prevention strategy

:44:10. > :44:14.group so we have the right strategic direction, but we are also taking

:44:15. > :44:19.practical action, funding a post in Glasgow City Council's access team

:44:20. > :44:22.for example, to make sure we are improving the liaison between the

:44:23. > :44:26.council and housing associations and the other looking to see the housing

:44:27. > :44:33.options approach that has been piloted in Glasgow extended. This is

:44:34. > :44:37.something that's the moderator of the Church of Scotland came in to

:44:38. > :44:40.see me a year ago, that the housing options approach is important

:44:41. > :44:46.because it does recognise that often particularly for a vulnerable

:44:47. > :44:49.person, sorry the housing first approach, particularly for a

:44:50. > :44:53.vulnerable person, you need to provide more than accommodation, it

:44:54. > :44:56.is the support around that. We will continue to work with councils to

:44:57. > :45:03.make sure we are actively addressing these issues and will continue to do

:45:04. > :45:07.so. Question six. To ask the First Minister what action the Scottish

:45:08. > :45:09.Government is taking in response to the Scottish mutual Consortium

:45:10. > :45:18.report indicating that the shop vacancy rate rose? We have taken

:45:19. > :45:22.significant steps to help the retail sector. Our town centre first

:45:23. > :45:26.principle and our town centre action plan is designed to tackle key

:45:27. > :45:32.issues such as empty shops and improve the vibrancy of our town

:45:33. > :45:37.centres. We have a highly competitive business tax

:45:38. > :45:41.environment, have lifted 100,000... We have lifted 100,000 properties in

:45:42. > :45:48.Scotland out of nondomestic rates altogether. I will add for the

:45:49. > :45:54.benefit of the record, that the Conservatives voted against 100,000

:45:55. > :45:58.businesses being taken out of business rates. We have also funded

:45:59. > :46:03.relief for two thirds of retail properties. We have given Google

:46:04. > :46:06.authorities the power to further reduce rates. It is important to

:46:07. > :46:11.note that the shop vacancy rate in Scotland is lower now than it was in

:46:12. > :46:15.2015 and remains lower than that of the UK but we continue to want to do

:46:16. > :46:18.more to support the retail sector and get shops in our town centres

:46:19. > :46:23.occupied and providing services to the public.

:46:24. > :46:31.Shop vacancies are up while productivity growth in retail is

:46:32. > :46:35.slower than the rest of the UK. This is evidence this Scottish

:46:36. > :46:39.Government's economic policies are failing. With the business rate

:46:40. > :46:44.revolution hitting Scotland hard, the Government needs to get back to

:46:45. > :46:49.the day job of focusing on the economy or it will be the Scottish

:46:50. > :46:57.retail sector paying the price. We have seen an increase from January

:46:58. > :47:04.this year to April from 9% up to 9.2% in terms of the vacancy rate.

:47:05. > :47:09.In 2015, the vacancy rate was 10.6%. It is lower now than it was then.

:47:10. > :47:13.The Scottish Retail Consortium report highlighted that footfall in

:47:14. > :47:19.Scotland's high streets and retail parks grew by 3.2%. The third

:47:20. > :47:25.fastest growth rate of all of the UK's nations and regions and the

:47:26. > :47:31.fastest growth in Scotland since July, 2014. A few facts to perhaps

:47:32. > :47:36.correct some of the mischaracterisations at the heart of

:47:37. > :47:40.the question. The member sites the wider economic performance in

:47:41. > :47:44.Scotland and we, like other parts of the UK, have work to do to get the

:47:45. > :47:51.economy growing faster, something not helped by the extreme Brexit the

:47:52. > :47:55.Tories are pursuing. Yesterday we saw unemployment again fall below

:47:56. > :48:00.the UK average up we saw employment in Scotland increase, we thought

:48:01. > :48:04.productivity growth in Scotland around 7% over the last few years,

:48:05. > :48:10.completely stagnant in the rest of the UK. We will get on with the hard

:48:11. > :48:13.work of supporting our economy and unfortunately we face a Tory

:48:14. > :48:17.government in Westminster that appears intent through extreme

:48:18. > :48:25.Brexit in undermining our economy. That is the reality. That concludes

:48:26. > :48:29.First Minister's Questions. The conclusion of questions to the First

:48:30. > :48:34.Minister including the exchanges about Brexit and the UK general

:48:35. > :48:37.election. The Tory manifesto here, section on Scotland, talking about

:48:38. > :48:44.our precious union, saying in the past, Conservative governments, UK

:48:45. > :48:51.Governments, they have forgotten the devolved nations. Saying there

:48:52. > :48:55.should be no independence referendum, no further independence

:48:56. > :48:59.referendum until Brexit is signed and settled. Time to pull together,

:49:00. > :49:05.not a part. Joined by a couple of chums, Robbie Dinwoodie, the Tory

:49:06. > :49:11.manifesto, it will be of interest...? I am guessing this is

:49:12. > :49:14.the biggest sign yet that Conservatives are very confident of

:49:15. > :49:19.a big victory next month because traditionally all parties have been

:49:20. > :49:28.very wary of any move that could offend the grey vote because...

:49:29. > :49:32.Means testing winter fuel payment, scaling down slightly the triple

:49:33. > :49:37.lock on pensions? It could be presented as quite anti-pensioner

:49:38. > :49:40.and it is rare for parties to be brave enough to do that and I think

:49:41. > :49:46.they must think they have got the election in the bag. Ruth Davidson

:49:47. > :49:51.going by there with the Conservative perspective on the union, the points

:49:52. > :49:55.I raised, no independence referendum, not forever, but not now

:49:56. > :50:01.and not now for the for Siebel future. She wants Brexit sorted

:50:02. > :50:07.first. -- the foreseeable future. At least not until after Brexit which

:50:08. > :50:11.is pretty much what we expected. No surprise. We thought it would be

:50:12. > :50:19.confirmed in a manifesto. Not putting a timetable on it, not until

:50:20. > :50:24.Brexit is done and dusted. Questions on the Scottish Government's record,

:50:25. > :50:29.Nicola Sturgeon repeatedly saying, it is legitimate to raise these, she

:50:30. > :50:34.did not seem happy they were raised, did she? It has become a regular

:50:35. > :50:38.rhythm, you get the Government's existing record on an area,

:50:39. > :50:44.education, teacher numbers in particular, Ruth Davidson went on

:50:45. > :50:48.that. The reply generally is, we are moving in the right direction,

:50:49. > :50:53.taking action, has not come through. Then the quite stinging response

:50:54. > :50:57.from Ruth Davidson that it was just a lot of waffle and she is asleep at

:50:58. > :51:06.the wheel. White vigorous exchanges. Let us talk to... Kezia Dugdale has

:51:07. > :51:10.just walked past. She was on about social media, the impact. Nicola

:51:11. > :51:18.Sturgeon felt it was a bit of a red herring. It was odd, Kezia Dugdale

:51:19. > :51:25.was upset about a particular blogger... She was upset. Cannot say

:51:26. > :51:30.too much. She was upset. It was odd because she was obviously holding

:51:31. > :51:33.Nicola Sturgeon to account for this and Nicola Sturgeon had quite an

:51:34. > :51:41.easy defence of saying, it is nothing to do with me. Nicola

:51:42. > :51:45.Sturgeon looked genuinely puzzled, there is always spin, but she looked

:51:46. > :51:50.genuinely surprised. Nicola Sturgeon had the answer, I have been insulted

:51:51. > :51:55.by lots of people including people from the Labour Party. I do not hold

:51:56. > :52:02.you personally responsible. Why are you holding me responsible for this?

:52:03. > :52:05.Robbie? This incident happened about a month ago on social media and I

:52:06. > :52:09.think Nicola Sturgeon felt bringing it up today was to distract from

:52:10. > :52:15.some other matters affecting the Labour Party which we will come to

:52:16. > :52:18.in due course. Fox hunting, Patrick Harvie. Back to the beginnings of

:52:19. > :52:22.the parliament, he seemed to feel there was a real concern. Quite odd

:52:23. > :52:29.in a way because obviously it allowed Nicola Sturgeon and into

:52:30. > :52:37.attack trees in May and say she is completely out of touch Test and in

:52:38. > :52:45.two Theresa May. -- and into the reason may. Mental health, the

:52:46. > :52:49.crisis among young people in particular, the length of time they

:52:50. > :52:54.are waiting to get treatment and help. Again, very similar answer

:52:55. > :53:00.from Nicola Sturgeon, we are throwing money at it, it will come

:53:01. > :53:06.down. Willie Rennie is not happy it is happening fast enough. Hang on, a

:53:07. > :53:09.bit more from you in a moment. In those exchanges with Kezia Dugdale,

:53:10. > :53:15.Nicola Sturgeon suggesting it was a bit of a blind to avoid the Chamber

:53:16. > :53:19.talking about Aberdeen where the local label councillors have been

:53:20. > :53:26.suspended by the party at Scottish lashed low-level -- Labour

:53:27. > :53:31.councillors have been suspended by the party at Scottish national

:53:32. > :53:35.level. Professor John Curtice put it in context for us. We have to

:53:36. > :53:39.remember that in all of the mainland councils in Scotland, we ended up

:53:40. > :53:43.with no party in overall control and therefore they need to be

:53:44. > :53:47.understandings or deals to sort out who will run the administration.

:53:48. > :53:54.There are a lot of councils in Scotland were basically either the

:53:55. > :53:57.Conservatives... They have to come to an understanding. The truth is,

:53:58. > :54:03.these parties are wanting to draw red lines, saying, no, we are not

:54:04. > :54:08.willing to do a deal with the Conservatives, or the SNP, as a

:54:09. > :54:11.result, probably on quite a lot of councils, forming administrations

:54:12. > :54:15.will be difficult and it is not made easier by the fact we are in the mix

:54:16. > :54:24.of febrile atmosphere of a general election. We expect these decisions

:54:25. > :54:28.be put off. The truth is, the Labour Party in particular often finds

:54:29. > :54:32.itself the third-largest party on a council and in effect the party that

:54:33. > :54:36.can decide whether it is the Conservatives are allowed to run the

:54:37. > :54:39.council or the SNP. They will find themselves with some pretty tough

:54:40. > :54:45.but potentially important choices in the coming weeks. The polls,

:54:46. > :54:50.anything shaping up either UK tutor Michael Scotland? What seems pretty

:54:51. > :54:56.clear in Scotland is it will be tougher fight for the SNP than two

:54:57. > :54:59.years ago -- anything shaping up in the UK or Scotland? Much brighter

:55:00. > :55:05.for the Conservatives north of the border than two years ago. Perhaps

:55:06. > :55:08.running as high as 30%. Certainly in the high 20s. Meanwhile, another

:55:09. > :55:12.difficult election for the Labour Party with its support falling below

:55:13. > :55:27.the record low it recorded two years ago. Therefore, in effect, we are

:55:28. > :55:31.talking about, how many seats can the SNP hang onto? The Conservatives

:55:32. > :55:42.have hoped for picking up some. Maybe half a dozen, meanwhile, there

:55:43. > :55:43.are odd constituencies, like Edinburgh South, Edinburgh West,

:55:44. > :55:46.where Labour and the Lib Dems still have hope. It is a question probably

:55:47. > :55:46.of how much of the SNP dominance of Scottish representation. We are

:55:47. > :55:49.still expecting for Scotland's representation at Westminster to be

:55:50. > :55:53.predominantly SNP. Manifesto is emerging, UK and soon Scottish, does

:55:54. > :55:58.that shaped the campaign or is it done? In a sense, they are coming

:55:59. > :56:01.out in the middle of the campaign were often the parties have told us

:56:02. > :56:05.a lot of what they are for and against already. I am not sure in

:56:06. > :56:10.truth the manifestos will make that much difference. Manifestos often

:56:11. > :56:14.make more difference after an election. They become the bible by

:56:15. > :56:19.which they get judged. People like you read them and they say, hang on,

:56:20. > :56:29.you said six months ago you would do this and you are doing is an

:56:30. > :56:34.indifferent. They become a benchmark by which whoever wins gets to be

:56:35. > :56:41.judged when they are in office. That is probably a much more important

:56:42. > :56:42.role than influencing voters between now and the 8th of June. Professor

:56:43. > :56:45.John Curtice talking about manifestos and the row in Aberdeen.

:56:46. > :56:47.You can see why the Labour Party has decided to take the tough action.

:56:48. > :56:52.Since the referendum campaign when they sided with the Tories, they

:56:53. > :56:56.suffered for that. They are continuing to suffer for that. Mixed

:56:57. > :57:11.messages here. At Westminster, standing on an identical platform,

:57:12. > :57:13.it puts them squarely against the Tories. That has become... They are

:57:14. > :57:14.trying to slap down the Labour councillors in Aberdeen. Kezia

:57:15. > :57:18.Dugdale says it is not about Aberdeen, not about that, it is

:57:19. > :57:21.about Labour's values. One of the difficulties is that in advance they

:57:22. > :57:27.did not say no deal with the Tories, they said no deals that result in

:57:28. > :57:31.austerity. Yes, it was kind of understood that probably meant the

:57:32. > :57:34.Tories because they would be the party associated with austerity. In

:57:35. > :57:37.Aberdeen, they said ahead of the deal, they did not want the deal to

:57:38. > :57:42.go ahead. They also said any deals had to be approved nationally by the

:57:43. > :57:46.executive and that deal was vetoed yesterday and they were given an

:57:47. > :57:51.ultimatum to drop the deal or be suspended. How does it look for

:57:52. > :57:55.Labour? They can present this and I am sure they will as standing tough

:57:56. > :58:00.against any accommodation with the Tories, is there another side? The

:58:01. > :58:06.fact it has been allowed to happen, they should have been more forceful

:58:07. > :58:07.in advance of local government elections, saying, Labour will not

:58:08. > :58:10.go into coalition with the Tories because they are the party of the

:58:11. > :58:14.Westminster government and inflicting austerity. Instead, as

:58:15. > :58:18.you say, they kept it vague, it seemed to be the intention, they

:58:19. > :58:21.should have been explicit and distanced themselves from the Tories

:58:22. > :58:27.months ago. Perhaps they can resolve that issue or perhaps not, we will

:58:28. > :58:32.see. The main UK manifestos have come out, the Scottish ones starting

:58:33. > :58:36.to emerge. The next phase. Yes, although it is always strange

:58:37. > :58:41.because it is the UK election so the UK manifestos stand and it is really

:58:42. > :58:47.only the SNP that has the full manifesto in Scotland for the UK

:58:48. > :58:51.election. Otherwise it is what has ready come out from the Lib Dems,

:58:52. > :58:57.Labour and the Conservatives, with bits that apply to Scotland and bits

:58:58. > :59:03.which do not. Briefly, it has been so short since the last UK election?

:59:04. > :59:06.You did have this dramatic week of the Labour manifesto, a manifesto

:59:07. > :59:13.including quite a lot of things which have been said. Thank you very

:59:14. > :59:17.much indeed, the UK manifestos will be covered on the BBC. We will bring

:59:18. > :59:21.you all of the details of the Scottish manifestos as they emerge,

:59:22. > :59:24.all of the detail and far more from the election campaign. Big event

:59:25. > :59:29.tomorrow, the play-offs. I will be watching.

:59:30. > :59:31.With the general election approaching,

:59:32. > :59:35.with the leaders from six Scottish political parties going

:59:36. > :59:43.head-to-head before you, the voters, in the Scottish Leaders' Debate.

:59:44. > :59:44.A bunch of boys fae Baillieston, Bellshill and Saltcoats

:59:45. > :59:48.It would be the greatest night of their lives...

:59:49. > :59:51.the night when Celtic Football Club captured the hearts of Europe...

:59:52. > :59:56.They were like brothers. I loved them. Absolutely loved them.

:59:57. > :00:00.A bunch of boys fae Baillieston, Bellshill and Saltcoats