:00:19. > :00:25.Good afternoon and welcome to the Scottish parliament. Of course the
:00:26. > :00:35.long shadow still cast from the Manchester tragedy and indeed only
:00:36. > :00:43.this morning confirmation that 14-year-old Eilidh among those
:00:44. > :00:50.killed in the tragedy and her friend Laura McIntyre still in hospital.
:00:51. > :00:54.That long shadow I'm sure means this will be a very different session of
:00:55. > :01:01.questions to the First Minister but the only way to find out is to cross
:01:02. > :01:07.to the chamber now. Our sympathies to everyone in Manchester. The sun
:01:08. > :01:09.shines on a sad Scottish Parliament today, campaigning in the general
:01:10. > :01:15.election will resume and parties have agreed that will happen from
:01:16. > :01:20.today and local level and tomorrow on a more national level but I think
:01:21. > :01:25.in Parliament today we are still going to see a degree of
:01:26. > :01:31.circumspection from Scottish politicians as they tried to reflect
:01:32. > :01:37.the mood of the wider population. I do not imagine we will have too much
:01:38. > :01:44.anger expressed today except perhaps with those responsible for the
:01:45. > :01:50.attack itself. The Parliament welcomes it honoured guests from one
:01:51. > :01:59.of the regional parliaments of Germany. Ruth Davidson. Thank you
:02:00. > :02:04.Presiding Officer. I want to ask the first restored engagements she has
:02:05. > :02:08.planned. Members will be aware of the heartbreaking news today that
:02:09. > :02:12.14-year-old Eilidh MacLeod was amongst those killed in the
:02:13. > :02:16.Manchester Arena on Monday night and I know we all want to send our love
:02:17. > :02:21.and thoughts to her mum and dad and all of her families and friends at
:02:22. > :02:25.this dreadful time. Our thoughts also with her friend Laura MacIntyre
:02:26. > :02:31.who remains in hospital. Later today we will look at the government
:02:32. > :02:37.programme for Scotland. I would like to associate myself with the
:02:38. > :02:40.thoughts of the First Minister and prayers from these benches with
:02:41. > :02:44.families of those who lost the plot Monday and particularly with those
:02:45. > :02:49.of Eilidh MacLeod. It is a tragedy that will be felt by everyone from
:02:50. > :02:52.Barra. It would not be right in my judgment used today to indulge in
:02:53. > :02:57.the knock-about of an election campaign but I also believe that the
:02:58. > :03:02.best show of contempt for our tactics of terror fight going about
:03:03. > :03:06.our business of practising the very democratic values the bombers seek
:03:07. > :03:10.to destroy so I would like to do just that. With the welfare of young
:03:11. > :03:12.people forefront in our minds we spoke to the Scottish youth
:03:13. > :03:15.Parliament yesterday to ask if there were any issues they wanted to race.
:03:16. > :03:17.They are currently campaigning on the issue of young people's mental
:03:18. > :03:27.health and they the need to ensure high quality
:03:28. > :03:30.service provision. Can I ask what actions her government is taking to
:03:31. > :03:34.improve the mental health of young people in Scotland. Can I thank Ruth
:03:35. > :03:40.Davidson for her question and also the approach she is taking, I think
:03:41. > :03:43.today above all it is our young people and their interests and
:03:44. > :03:47.well-being that is very much in all our hearts. The Scottish youth
:03:48. > :03:51.Parliament has raised many issues over the years that have not just
:03:52. > :03:54.been of importance to young people in Scotland but having resulted in
:03:55. > :03:57.action by this Parliament and the thing that is to their credit. In
:03:58. > :04:03.terms of mental health as members are aware mental health for young
:04:04. > :04:07.people for children and adolescents and making sure we can meet the
:04:08. > :04:12.demand on services but also ensure the quality of service is very much
:04:13. > :04:17.at the heart of our mental health strategy. In particular amongst many
:04:18. > :04:21.other actions we have given a commitment to in National review of
:04:22. > :04:25.personal and social education and the role of pastoral guidance in
:04:26. > :04:28.schools and school counselling services to make sure that every
:04:29. > :04:33.child has appropriate access to the right support in schools. These
:04:34. > :04:37.actions I think have long been important but given the events of
:04:38. > :04:40.the last few days picking sure we have appropriate support for young
:04:41. > :04:46.people who for a whole variety of reasons experienced stress and
:04:47. > :04:48.trauma and difficulty in their life is hugely important and the
:04:49. > :04:54.government is absolutely committed to making sure we do the right
:04:55. > :04:57.things in this regard. I thank the First Minister for that answer along
:04:58. > :05:00.with the concerns raised by the Scottish youth Parliament we also
:05:01. > :05:03.see this with the Scottish Association for mental health
:05:04. > :05:08.launching a campaign highlighting the mental health needs of young
:05:09. > :05:13.people. Its campaign points out that three children in every classroom in
:05:14. > :05:18.Scotland will have exposed the mental health difficulty by the time
:05:19. > :05:21.they are 16. It also points out that nearly 7000 young people were turned
:05:22. > :05:28.away from the health services last year and warns that the issues may
:05:29. > :05:31.worsen without help. Does the banister Joao is concerned and
:05:32. > :05:43.assures that the concerns are being taken seriously in this campaign. I
:05:44. > :05:48.do share the concerns of SAMH. As I have said many times before and I
:05:49. > :05:52.know this is a point acknowledged across the chamber, we are seeing
:05:53. > :05:54.many more young people come forward for Vedel health services and that
:05:55. > :06:00.is something we should encourage because it does demonstrate that
:06:01. > :06:03.there is a reducing stigma associated and it puts an obligation
:06:04. > :06:06.on the government and our National Health Service and other agencies to
:06:07. > :06:10.make sure that we can meet that demand. There are particular issues
:06:11. > :06:15.I want to respond to in terms of that specific question, firstly
:06:16. > :06:21.around people who come forward for child and adolescent mental health
:06:22. > :06:30.and when those referrals are rejection. As members are aware we
:06:31. > :06:34.have given a commitment in terms of referrals and then a commitment to
:06:35. > :06:37.use the review as a foundation for further improvements. It is
:06:38. > :06:41.important to point out of course that there would be a number of
:06:42. > :06:47.reasons why a referral might be rejected and ultimately that is and
:06:48. > :06:53.always should be a clinical decision. There might of course be
:06:54. > :06:56.reasons why another intervention might be needed but we do want to
:06:57. > :07:00.make sure that our services are joined up properly so that young
:07:01. > :07:05.people get the care that they need. The second point is more general
:07:06. > :07:08.landlubbers laid I said in my first answer about the review we are
:07:09. > :07:11.commissioning into personal and social education. There is also an
:07:12. > :07:19.important is that I think we should all attached to mental health first
:07:20. > :07:22.aid and there is mental health first aid training to support young people
:07:23. > :07:26.and staff in educational establishments that is being funded
:07:27. > :07:28.and rolled out across Scotland by education Scotland and the aim of
:07:29. > :07:35.this is to train staff within secondary schools to increase their
:07:36. > :07:37.confidence and in approaching pupils whom they think might be struggling
:07:38. > :07:41.with a mental health problem and that training is very much
:07:42. > :07:45.complementing other forms of services. There is a whole range of
:07:46. > :07:49.actions we are taking and I hope the chamber can unite behind this
:07:50. > :07:58.approach. We know there is work today but we absolutely determined
:07:59. > :08:01.to get on and do it. I thank you for that response. Often it is not just
:08:02. > :08:07.about money, it is about other factors not within common control,
:08:08. > :08:10.for example the fabulous work done by scouts, guides and Boys' Brigade
:08:11. > :08:16.and other organisations all of which has a hugely beneficial impact on
:08:17. > :08:18.mental health. Organisations which in countless unseen ways change the
:08:19. > :08:23.lives of young people for the better and which steer young people into
:08:24. > :08:26.better choices and happier lives. As well as celebrating the work they do
:08:27. > :08:29.does the First Minister agree that we should do more to support youth
:08:30. > :08:32.organisations and aim to ensure that as far as possible every young
:08:33. > :08:39.person's goblin has the chance to join one? Yes I do. -- every young
:08:40. > :08:43.person in Scotland has the chance. We should pay tribute to
:08:44. > :08:46.organisations like those and in fact I think we have had the boys parade
:08:47. > :08:50.in this Parliament this week talking about the work they are doing to
:08:51. > :08:55.encourage young people to take part in sport. They do fight us to work
:08:56. > :08:58.and I aware I'm sitting next to a former member here and I'm sure
:08:59. > :09:02.there are many others in the chamber. They did fantastic work. I
:09:03. > :09:07.think pointing to the work they do is important for a wider reason.
:09:08. > :09:13.Understandably this week we are talking about unbelievable horror
:09:14. > :09:16.and trauma that has been suffered by young people, principally the young
:09:17. > :09:21.people in Manchester on Monday night but as we have commented in this
:09:22. > :09:26.chamber in the last couple of days children across our country who were
:09:27. > :09:29.nowhere near Manchester Arena will be impacted by the things they have
:09:30. > :09:34.seen on television. We should never forget that youth is a time of great
:09:35. > :09:38.joy and should be a time of great happiness, when young people get to
:09:39. > :09:41.explore, I have read so many beautiful and poignant things this
:09:42. > :09:46.week about the rite of passage for any young people are going to their
:09:47. > :09:50.first concert and the experience of that. So we must always remember
:09:51. > :09:57.that our principal obligation is to support in every way we can young
:09:58. > :10:05.people to get the most out of life and organisations like the one Luke
:10:06. > :10:12.Davison mentions play very important part. The First Minister touched on
:10:13. > :10:15.this but SAMH raises a lack of counselling services and secondary
:10:16. > :10:19.schools and points out that in Wales and Northern Ireland children have
:10:20. > :10:22.guaranteed access to schools -based counselling. Notwithstanding the
:10:23. > :10:24.mental health strategy put in place by the Scottish Dummett it says
:10:25. > :10:29.judge in Scotland are still missing out. Earlier this year we published
:10:30. > :10:32.a mental health paper supporting ladder of school champions and
:10:33. > :10:36.councillors to be appointed in schools, colleges and universities.
:10:37. > :10:40.The First Minister also Everest moves to improve counselling so can
:10:41. > :10:42.she give us an assures that this is something the Scottish Government
:10:43. > :10:46.will take forward in good time so that young people have the same
:10:47. > :10:52.counselling services available as elsewhere in the UK? I think
:10:53. > :10:56.counselling in schools is hugely important and also in a wider sense
:10:57. > :10:59.to recognise that health and well-being is one of the core
:11:00. > :11:04.aspects of the curriculum for excellence. It is embedded in the
:11:05. > :11:07.very curriculum of our schools but it is important we make sure that
:11:08. > :11:12.schools have access to the resources that allows them to support in a
:11:13. > :11:16.very practical and meaningful way the health and well-being of
:11:17. > :11:20.children and young people. Counselling is important. The review
:11:21. > :11:25.I spoke about will look particularly at school counselling and I also
:11:26. > :11:29.mention the role of mental health first aid training. It is important
:11:30. > :11:33.to say that a mental health Link buses available to every school,
:11:34. > :11:39.this is achieved in a variety of ways -- link person is available. It
:11:40. > :11:44.might be a condition or from another specialty such as a primary care
:11:45. > :11:49.worker that may make those will be able to contact specialist services
:11:50. > :11:52.for advice if they need to. The review I have spoken about which is
:11:53. > :11:55.an important aspect of the mental health strategy will allow us to
:11:56. > :11:59.determine what further action we need to take to make sure schools
:12:00. > :12:08.have access to the right resources to get the best possible support to
:12:09. > :12:12.young people. I would like to ask the first Mr Watt engagements she
:12:13. > :12:19.has for the rest of the week. Engagements to take forward the plan
:12:20. > :12:28.for. Barra is one of Scotland's most beautiful places. That peace has
:12:29. > :12:37.been shattered. The family of Eilidh MacLeod are grieving and the family
:12:38. > :12:41.of Laura MacIntyre are praying things will get better. Can this man
:12:42. > :12:47.is to tell us what extra support them Scottish Government can offer
:12:48. > :12:52.the people of Barra. I think Kezia Dugdale raises a powerful point. The
:12:53. > :12:54.death of a young person in a circumstance but particularly in
:12:55. > :12:58.tragic and horrific circumstances like the ones we have witnessed this
:12:59. > :13:04.week is Ray difficult for any community anywhere to deal with. --
:13:05. > :13:11.very difficult. But Laura MacIntyre is a small and close-knit community
:13:12. > :13:14.so the impact of the death of Eilidh MacLeod and the horrific injuries of
:13:15. > :13:19.Laura MacIntyre will be felt in this community in a way which is much
:13:20. > :13:25.more intense than might be the case in a big agility. We must be mindful
:13:26. > :13:30.of that. My colleague of course a resident of Barra himself and I know
:13:31. > :13:34.from him just how that is being felt. In terms of the support being
:13:35. > :13:37.offered, Scottish Government officials have already engaged with
:13:38. > :13:41.the council to ascertain that supported be made available and to
:13:42. > :13:52.consider whether there are ways in which we can consider there your
:13:53. > :13:57.support. A further educational psychologist and NHS clinical
:13:58. > :14:00.psychologist are travelling to Barra today and between them they are
:14:01. > :14:09.going to be focusing on the sport that families and those closest to
:14:10. > :14:14.these two girls will need. The aim will be to give is as normal as
:14:15. > :14:18.possible for the school but to make sure that there is support in place
:14:19. > :14:27.for young people who are going to need it. This is often a point that
:14:28. > :14:33.is relevant in any tragic incident like this, we all think in this
:14:34. > :14:36.circumstances in the immediate aftermath of incidents like this
:14:37. > :14:40.because the media is full of images but it is also in the days and weeks
:14:41. > :14:43.and months after an event like this that the impact on those closest to
:14:44. > :14:47.people who have died will be felt. I am very conscious of the fact that
:14:48. > :14:50.the government and working with the council in the lead in this need to
:14:51. > :14:53.make sure that supporters and those not just today, next week and next
:14:54. > :15:03.month but for as long as it is needed. I welcome that answer but
:15:04. > :15:06.after attacks like the one in Manchester political leaders talk
:15:07. > :15:10.about how we cannot let terrorists change our way of life. We can do
:15:11. > :15:13.that by carrying on with business in this chamber and by holding the
:15:14. > :15:19.government account as normal and that is what I want to do. Earlier
:15:20. > :15:24.this week target ovarian cancer published a report, the first of its
:15:25. > :15:28.kind in Scotland and found that 36% of GPs wrongly believe there are no
:15:29. > :15:33.detectable symptoms of ovarian cancer. That is costing lives. Can
:15:34. > :15:39.the First Minister tell us what steps she will take to improve the
:15:40. > :15:46.awareness of ovarian cancer among GPs. We will pay very close
:15:47. > :15:50.attention to that report. One of the things that is extremely important
:15:51. > :15:55.particularly with cancer and honestly our focus is on prevention
:15:56. > :16:00.and early detection as much as it is on treatment but what is very
:16:01. > :16:01.important is to make sure clinicians particularly primary care clinicians
:16:02. > :16:08.have the guidance and information they need. I know GPs and others
:16:09. > :16:22.working in primary care want to be in the best possible position to do
:16:23. > :16:29.that. There will be work done to review guidance given to clinicians.
:16:30. > :16:35.Very strongly through our detect cancer early programme we know that
:16:36. > :16:40.the earlier cancer is detected the better the outcome is. Thank you for
:16:41. > :16:46.that and of course it is not just GPs who lack awareness, this report
:16:47. > :16:52.actually shows that 83% of women do not know the main signs and symptoms
:16:53. > :16:54.of ovarian cancer. The First Minister just mentioned the detect
:16:55. > :16:59.cancer early programme which has been very successful in raising
:17:00. > :17:03.awareness about cancer of the breast, lung and bowel but giving
:17:04. > :17:08.the findings of this report are one of the first Mr might think it is
:17:09. > :17:14.time to extend that programme to cover ovarian cancer which it
:17:15. > :17:20.currently doesn't. 'S First Minister. We keep that under regular
:17:21. > :17:24.review. The decision around this, I was Home Secretary when this
:17:25. > :17:31.programme was first established, there was a lot of very careful
:17:32. > :17:34.thought about deciding which cancers to concentrate on, because of the
:17:35. > :17:38.significant numbers of people who suffer from these cancers in
:17:39. > :17:40.Scotland that regularly groups representing patients with other
:17:41. > :17:43.cancers do make representation for inclusion in the programme and we
:17:44. > :17:48.will always be happy to consider that. Given the Target Ovarian
:17:49. > :17:53.Cancer report referred to today we certainly welcome the opportunity to
:17:54. > :17:56.discuss with Target Ovarian Cancer how we as government can support
:17:57. > :18:01.greater efforts to raise awareness amongst the public at large but also
:18:02. > :18:04.particularly amongst people working in primary care and I would be happy
:18:05. > :18:10.to make sure the Health Secretary includes in that discussion possible
:18:11. > :18:18.future inclusion in the detect cancer early programme. Thank you
:18:19. > :18:25.to. I want to ask the first was when the Cabinet will next meet. Tuesday.
:18:26. > :18:32.May I add my own condolences and those of my party to the families,
:18:33. > :18:35.friends and community of Eilidh MacLeod and our most sincere hopes
:18:36. > :18:40.for the recovery of a great many others who still are fighting for
:18:41. > :18:47.the lives perhaps all recovering from serious injuries including her
:18:48. > :18:53.friend Laura MacIntyre. As the faces of those who have been lost or
:18:54. > :18:57.injured are seen and as we learn the names and something of the life
:18:58. > :19:02.stories of those who have been affected there will be tears shed in
:19:03. > :19:08.communities like Barra, right across the UK, and I think far around the
:19:09. > :19:12.world as well. Election campaigning is due to recommends later and we
:19:13. > :19:15.all have a responsibility to do so in an inappropriate tone and in
:19:16. > :19:21.particular to reject the division that both terrorists and the far
:19:22. > :19:28.right in this country seek to create along lines of race and religion.
:19:29. > :19:37.Keeping people safe at home must never prevent us from also valuing
:19:38. > :19:40.all life equally. Is the First Minister aware of the tragic deaths
:19:41. > :19:43.of at least 34 people, many of them children, toddlers and babies,
:19:44. > :19:54.crossing the Mediterranean on Wednesday from Libya to Italy? Can I
:19:55. > :19:56.seek their continued commitment from the First Minister and I have all
:19:57. > :20:01.ages to resist the voices of hostility and xenophobia and to
:20:02. > :20:05.ensure that we look after those who need safe Routes to this country and
:20:06. > :20:12.to others and to be given safety and security as asylum seekers here and
:20:13. > :20:19.would this be an appropriate time to press the UK for a reversal of its
:20:20. > :20:28.decision to scrap the dubs Amendment protecting child refugees. I am
:20:29. > :20:34.aware of the dreadful tragedy Patrick Harvie refers to and like
:20:35. > :20:40.anybody else has read accounts of that will have been just so
:20:41. > :20:49.distressed and upset to read of mainly toddlers being drowned and
:20:50. > :20:53.killed in this case. I think it is important for us all, I know this is
:20:54. > :20:57.a view we will take as human beings, the loss of a child's life is a
:20:58. > :21:03.tragedy no matter when a child comes from. For the circumstance they have
:21:04. > :21:08.grown up in. We should mourn and brief any child's life and where a
:21:09. > :21:15.child loses their life whether in an attack like we saw in Manchester or
:21:16. > :21:18.crossing the Mediterranean, fleeing circumstances we can scarcely
:21:19. > :21:23.imagine in the hope of a better life somewhere else, we should always
:21:24. > :21:26.dedicate ourselves to learning the lessons and trying to do everything
:21:27. > :21:31.we can to make the world a better place for our children to grow up
:21:32. > :21:37.in. The only person responsible for what happened in Manchester on
:21:38. > :21:42.Monday night was the man who did what he did and carried out that
:21:43. > :21:48.attack. But it is the case that we must all of us work to resolve the
:21:49. > :21:53.conflicts in the world that people like that individual completely
:21:54. > :21:57.without justification but nevertheless they tried to use as
:21:58. > :22:01.basis for the heinous acts they carry out. There is a lot of it
:22:02. > :22:05.injustice in our world right now and sometimes we can feel very helpless
:22:06. > :22:09.in the face of that but we all have a role to play in trying to address
:22:10. > :22:15.that injustice and make our world a better place. One of the ways in
:22:16. > :22:22.which we can do that is to offer the hand of friendship to those who are
:22:23. > :22:26.fleeing conditions elsewhere that we can scarcely imagine. I am very
:22:27. > :22:30.proud of the work that local authorities and other agencies
:22:31. > :22:33.across Scotland have done in welcoming Syrian refugees and making
:22:34. > :22:37.them feel at home here in Scotland and today is not the day for party
:22:38. > :22:46.political statements to be made but I do think there is more the UK can
:22:47. > :22:48.and should do in the years ahead and honouring the Dubs Amendment would
:22:49. > :22:55.be one way of making sure we are giving that helping hand to
:22:56. > :23:01.vulnerable children. I am grateful for those worlds, all of our hearts
:23:02. > :23:05.are hurting for those whose names and faces we are learning but it is
:23:06. > :23:10.important to remember the equal value of every life including those
:23:11. > :23:15.whose faces and life stories we will probably never learn about. Can I
:23:16. > :23:21.also ask the First Minister about the decision by the UK Government
:23:22. > :23:26.which in this case I support to suspend the sharing of intelligence
:23:27. > :23:31.information with the United States following a series of leaks are
:23:32. > :23:37.particularly sensitive and potentially relevant to enquiries
:23:38. > :23:41.information to the media. It has been said that UK officials have
:23:42. > :23:46.expressed anger, disbelief and astonishment at the actions of the
:23:47. > :23:50.US intelligence services in leaking misinformation. Does the first Mr
:23:51. > :23:54.share that reaction, does she agree with the decision of the UK
:23:55. > :23:58.Government to suspend the sharing of that information, and what are the
:23:59. > :24:04.implications for the security measures to the Scottish Government
:24:05. > :24:09.and police Scotland if in future we are unable to trust the intelligence
:24:10. > :24:14.services of an ally. Firstly in terms of the first part of the
:24:15. > :24:20.question is said earlier every child is valued and I will not be the only
:24:21. > :24:27.person in this chamber and across the UK who today finds it difficult
:24:28. > :24:30.to look at the photographs of the eight-year-old girl who was killed
:24:31. > :24:34.in Manchester without feeling tearful but many of the children who
:24:35. > :24:38.die in other circumstances we will never see the faces but that does
:24:39. > :24:41.not mean their lives are any less valuable or that we do not have
:24:42. > :24:46.responsibility working with others to try to make things better for our
:24:47. > :24:50.children. In terms of intelligence sharing, firstly can I say the
:24:51. > :24:54.ability of countries to share intelligence and to share
:24:55. > :24:59.intelligence confidentially and securely is one of the things that
:25:00. > :25:02.helps keep us safe and the importance of that and the
:25:03. > :25:08.importance of having trusted arrangements in place such as
:25:09. > :25:17.through the finalise system, cannot be overestimated. I do share the
:25:18. > :25:26.anger and the disbelief that we have seen very sensitive details of this
:25:27. > :25:32.ongoing situation leads to the reader and I think all of us should
:25:33. > :25:38.make clear that is unacceptable and cannot be defended in any way. --
:25:39. > :25:45.the Five Eyes system. I know that with regret the UK Government is
:25:46. > :25:47.right to stop showing until a list like this with the American
:25:48. > :25:52.government for hopefully a short period. I know they would on to the
:25:53. > :25:54.as temporarily as possible on another Prime Minister will be
:25:55. > :25:58.raising this issue with President Trump today so I very much hope the
:25:59. > :26:03.assurances will be given by the American government that allows a
:26:04. > :26:06.very speedy return to the sharing of intelligence that is such an
:26:07. > :26:10.important part of keeping just published of the UK safe but
:26:11. > :26:13.publishers across the world. Let us be in no doubt that what we have
:26:14. > :26:17.read and seen in American newspapers of the last couple of days is
:26:18. > :26:22.completely unacceptable and potentially compromises the
:26:23. > :26:27.investigation that is currently underway into the trustee we saw on
:26:28. > :26:32.Monday night. APPLAUSE -- into the atrocity we saw on
:26:33. > :26:41.Monday night. If we can keep the answer is relatively succinct. Linda
:26:42. > :26:43.Fabiani. Thank you, in this sad when people have many concerns and of
:26:44. > :26:48.course safety and security are amongst them. May I ask the First
:26:49. > :26:53.Minister to confirm that the Chief Constable does have the proper
:26:54. > :26:58.resources to deal with the security situation here in Scotland as it
:26:59. > :27:01.stands. I have had that assurance from the Chief Constable and we
:27:02. > :27:05.discussed this yesterday in Parliament when I made a statement
:27:06. > :27:11.on the security situation and after that statement I visited the multi
:27:12. > :27:16.agency coordination Centre and spoke against Chief Constable there. The
:27:17. > :27:21.Chief Constable has as is his responsibility reviewed the security
:27:22. > :27:24.arrangements in Scotland giving the increase in the threat level and he
:27:25. > :27:28.has made judgments about the level of policing including armed policing
:27:29. > :27:32.that is necessary. It is his judgment at this stage although he
:27:33. > :27:35.will keep that under review that the police have the resources within
:27:36. > :27:38.their own resources to provide that level of policing across Scotland
:27:39. > :27:45.and their four he does not require at this stage to call on military
:27:46. > :27:49.personnel to help police the streets or public places in Scotland.
:27:50. > :27:55.Although let me say publicly and record my gratitude to the military
:27:56. > :27:59.for their offers of support and for the support they are providing in
:28:00. > :28:05.other parts of the UK. I spoke to the Brigadier responsible in
:28:06. > :28:10.Scotland yesterday and recorded my gratitude for his offers of support.
:28:11. > :28:14.But the police here in Scotland have the resources from within Police
:28:15. > :28:19.Scotland to provide the appropriate level of security and I think we
:28:20. > :28:21.should be grateful to them for that. The Chief Constable has that
:28:22. > :28:25.operational responsibility to make those decisions and he will keep
:28:26. > :28:30.that matter under review for as long the heightened security situation
:28:31. > :28:36.exists. This morning the culture committee consider the roles
:28:37. > :28:40.Scottish libraries, museums and galleries play in the pursuit of
:28:41. > :28:44.knowledge and understanding. Would she understand that after Manchester
:28:45. > :28:48.people keep asking why this atrocity happened and there fore could she
:28:49. > :28:52.undertake to coordinate the work of the National collections in the
:28:53. > :28:54.study of Islam and the diversity of religious tolerance and
:28:55. > :28:58.understanding are finding work that goes on across all our indices to
:28:59. > :29:03.make sure that happens. I am very happy to take that and ask Fiona
:29:04. > :29:06.Hyslop to have a look at what we can do to support our National
:29:07. > :29:09.galleries, libraries and others in making a contribution to the mutual
:29:10. > :29:15.understanding of different cultures and faiths. That is what is so
:29:16. > :29:18.important at the heart of this, so many conflicts and disputes across
:29:19. > :29:25.the world: from ignorance and misunderstanding. Of it has to said
:29:26. > :29:30.deliberate misunderstanding, and ignorance. But the more we can
:29:31. > :29:33.encourage people to learn and understand about different faiths
:29:34. > :29:37.and different cultures, the more chance we have got of ensuring that
:29:38. > :29:42.people not just in this country but across all can live together in
:29:43. > :29:45.harmony. Culture, books, art have a hugely important role to play in
:29:46. > :29:54.this. I think it is a very good suggestion and I would be happy to
:29:55. > :29:58.ask for this to be taken forward. First Minister, I met the head of
:29:59. > :30:06.the student Association for Glazkov Calvin College recently and I
:30:07. > :30:15.understand that term is money to be extended. Can the Scottish
:30:16. > :30:20.Government work with colleges to alleviate any additional costs
:30:21. > :30:22.associated with this? Shirley and Somerville met on Tuesday this week
:30:23. > :30:26.to seek reassurances on the contingencies colleges have in place
:30:27. > :30:31.to minimise any impact on students as a consequence of the recent
:30:32. > :30:36.strike action. A firm assurance was given that contingency measures are
:30:37. > :30:42.in place however I'm happy to ask her to speak to colleges Scotland to
:30:43. > :30:45.raise these issues. More generally we are pleased to see the agreement
:30:46. > :30:46.reached last Friday to enable further strike action to be called
:30:47. > :30:54.off. To ask the First Minister the
:30:55. > :31:03.government is taking to attract foreign and direct investment. The
:31:04. > :31:09.2017 and still young published on Tuesday reported that with 122
:31:10. > :31:12.projects successfully secured during 2016, in three Scottish cities,
:31:13. > :31:16.Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen in the top ten, Scotland continues to
:31:17. > :31:20.be the most attractive occasion for foreign direct investment outside
:31:21. > :31:24.London for every one of the past five years. We continue to work to
:31:25. > :31:28.attract investors across the globe, to make sure they are aware of the
:31:29. > :31:34.strength of the Scottish economy and the range of support available to
:31:35. > :31:39.grow businesses here. Kate Forbes. I agree that the survey is a positive
:31:40. > :31:44.thing for the Scottish economy, does the First Minister agree that a
:31:45. > :31:47.further positive sign is the number of high-value projects, particularly
:31:48. > :31:53.RND projects that Scotland now attracts, and while they may not
:31:54. > :31:55.bring as many jobs, they are the basis for a high-value,
:31:56. > :32:02.knowledge-based economy that will lead to more and better paid jobs in
:32:03. > :32:06.the future? Yes, I agree very much with that. The attraction of
:32:07. > :32:12.high-value jobs to Scotland is a very positive sign. The survey says,
:32:13. > :32:19.and I quote, Scotland is a leader for research and develop it in the
:32:20. > :32:23.UK, attracting more projects. It added, the project attract high
:32:24. > :32:27.skilled, high-value jobs and our excellent performance in the face of
:32:28. > :32:33.what we see as reductions in research and development show
:32:34. > :32:40.academic excellence, but we mustn't be complacent and must focus on
:32:41. > :32:45.getting Scotland to be seen to be a attractive place to invest. Whilst
:32:46. > :32:52.foreign and direct investment is to be welcomed, it was a 2.5% increase
:32:53. > :32:56.for last year, compared to a 51% growth the previous year. So our
:32:57. > :33:00.growth was less than the UK as a whole, and the total number of jobs
:33:01. > :33:05.secured has fallen by nearly 50%. The survey also said that Scotland's
:33:06. > :33:09.perceived attractiveness to investors has decreased for a number
:33:10. > :33:13.of reasons that I won't rehearse. Can the First Minister offer an
:33:14. > :33:16.explanation as to why there is a difference in FDI growth, and what
:33:17. > :33:22.action she is taking to close that gap? I think it is difficult for
:33:23. > :33:26.anybody to fairly read report from Tuesday and come to the conclusion
:33:27. > :33:33.that is anything other than positive for Scotland. If we look, for
:33:34. > :33:40.example, at the comparison with last year, 2015, the previous year the
:33:41. > :33:43.report was based on, was our highest percentage year for UK projects
:33:44. > :33:48.recorded in the past ten years. It was a particularly strong year. The
:33:49. > :33:54.improvement this year on last year was always likely to be slightly
:33:55. > :34:02.less than that. But the 2016 result is still excellent. 10.7% of all
:34:03. > :34:04.projects coming to Scotland still places Scotland significantly above
:34:05. > :34:08.our population share in what is an extremely competitive inward
:34:09. > :34:13.investment environment. I think that is something we shouldn't be
:34:14. > :34:19.complacent about, but should celebrate. This goes back to the
:34:20. > :34:26.question Kate Forbes asked me, Kate Forbes absolutely put her finger on
:34:27. > :34:32.this. A number of the project, of course, reported through VE why
:34:33. > :34:39.study didn't have figures for jobs. We don't know how many jobs are
:34:40. > :34:44.there, but one of the issues with numbers of jobs here is that so many
:34:45. > :34:48.of the projects that we attracted last year were high-value projects,
:34:49. > :34:51.particularly in research and development. As people know from
:34:52. > :34:55.their own experience, these kind of projects do not necessarily bring
:34:56. > :35:01.the large numbers of jobs that others do. But what they do bring is
:35:02. > :35:04.huge value to the Scottish economy. And the future success of our
:35:05. > :35:10.economy is based on attracting high skilled roles in areas like
:35:11. > :35:17.software, and delivering higher value. The success of R should be
:35:18. > :35:20.something not seen as a negative, because it brings fewer jobs, it
:35:21. > :35:27.should be a positive because of the added value for the economy over the
:35:28. > :35:32.longer term. While foreign direct investment is essential to Scotland,
:35:33. > :35:35.before any Scottish Government money is invested in these companies based
:35:36. > :35:39.abroad, will the Scottish Government carry out any checks to ensure two
:35:40. > :35:46.things, one that the companies pay proper taxes in the UK, and
:35:47. > :35:52.importantly have a level of pay for the workforce that is legal and
:35:53. > :35:58.appropriate? Scottish enterprise carries out robust due diligence on
:35:59. > :36:02.companies before they invest and has a careful assessment of the
:36:03. > :36:05.companies that they invest in, not least so that we can get the
:36:06. > :36:12.greatest value for taxpayer money. In terms of two particular points
:36:13. > :36:15.raised by Mike rumbles, the Scottish Government as to be clear, it is
:36:16. > :36:20.absolutely the responsibly Diop all companies to pay the tax they are
:36:21. > :36:28.due to pay. I believe that we should have, much more robust rules and
:36:29. > :36:36.regulations around tax avoidance by companies in place. In terms of the
:36:37. > :36:40.wage, we are clear about the importance we attach to the living
:36:41. > :36:46.wage. We are in the situation now where Scotland has a higher
:36:47. > :36:51.percentage paid the right amount, but we still have work to do. We
:36:52. > :36:55.will continue to use all believers at our disposal to encourage
:36:56. > :36:59.companies to pay the living wage or set out plans by which they can move
:37:00. > :37:05.towards paying the living wage. Adam Tomkins. To ask the First Minister
:37:06. > :37:12.whether the Scottish Government will provide details of the meeting held
:37:13. > :37:14.with business leaders on 21st March. Details of the meetings are
:37:15. > :37:20.proactively published on the website, on 21st March, the Deputy
:37:21. > :37:25.First Minister and the economy secretary and finance secretary met
:37:26. > :37:27.with 13 key business leaders to continue our engagement with
:37:28. > :37:29.industry on Scottish Government activity and allow them the
:37:30. > :37:36.opportunity to raise issues with us in return. Adam Tomkins. I am
:37:37. > :37:40.pleased that the Scottish Government spends a proportion of its time
:37:41. > :37:43.speaking with business leaders. We can learn from Scotland's businesses
:37:44. > :37:48.large and small about how to grow and stimuli the Scottish economy.
:37:49. > :37:56.Given that young people are a theme of today's First Minister's
:37:57. > :38:00.Questions, what advice can be stimulator for young people entering
:38:01. > :38:03.the jobs market, and how is the Scottish Government acting on and
:38:04. > :38:09.taking forward this advice? There is a range of different ways we are
:38:10. > :38:16.working towards the economy that young people need and want. The work
:38:17. > :38:20.that schools and colleges do, the courses that are provided, employers
:38:21. > :38:24.need them to grow their businesses is part of that. The work we are
:38:25. > :38:27.doing to encourage high-value investment in Scotland is another
:38:28. > :38:32.part of that, developing the young force, one of the business leaders
:38:33. > :38:35.that was engaged with us on the date I am talking about with Salim Wood,
:38:36. > :38:44.Salim would lead you work for the Scottish Government on making
:38:45. > :38:49.productive link between schools and academic institutions, and the world
:38:50. > :38:53.of work. Developing the young workforce, work is now being taken
:38:54. > :38:55.forward across Scotland, the chambers of commerce have a leading
:38:56. > :39:00.role to play in that. Whether economic strategy and economic
:39:01. > :39:04.initiatives have a range of purposes in terms of growing the economy, all
:39:05. > :39:10.of it should be furthering the opportunities that our young people
:39:11. > :39:15.have to succeed and prosper. To ask the First Minister in light of her
:39:16. > :39:18.expressing the view that the NHS pay cap is unsustainable, whether the
:39:19. > :39:23.Scottish Government will provide details of the submission made to
:39:24. > :39:27.the new body. In the last pay review, the submission that the
:39:28. > :39:33.Scottish Government sent included a commitment to paying the real living
:39:34. > :39:37.wage, guaranteeing a minimum increase of ?400 for staff earning
:39:38. > :39:41.?22,000 or less, continuing a policy of no compulsory redundancies. Those
:39:42. > :39:47.policies are different to the situation elsewhere in the UK, and
:39:48. > :39:54.lastly, a 1% pay increase for staff earning over ?22,000, which I know
:39:55. > :39:59.is similar to the position in Wales. Now, that was our last submission. I
:40:00. > :40:03.have made it clear, as we have entered a period where inflation is
:40:04. > :40:06.rising, the pay restraint of recent times is unsustainable. That is why
:40:07. > :40:11.in advance of the next submission, we have asked staff were present at
:40:12. > :40:16.its, including unions, to work with us to work with us on the next
:40:17. > :40:22.submission to the pay review body. The First Minister will be aware
:40:23. > :40:31.that NHS staff have endured seven years pay restraint, meaning a 14%
:40:32. > :40:36.real terms cut. In the submission was to keep the 1% pay cap, does the
:40:37. > :40:39.First Minister and accept that the NHS staff deserve better pay, and
:40:40. > :40:48.will she commit to scrapping the pay cap? As I said before, we have had
:40:49. > :40:52.pay restraint for the number of previous years, and I know how
:40:53. > :40:55.difficult that is for staff. At a time when our budgets have been
:40:56. > :41:01.getting reduced year-on-year, it has been to protect jobs in our public
:41:02. > :41:05.services, our NHS and our wider public service. The Scottish
:41:06. > :41:09.Government has taken a range of actions to give targeted support,
:41:10. > :41:19.particularly to the lowest paid, in the initiatives I outlined. These
:41:20. > :41:23.are all policies that are not in place elsewhere in the UK. I think
:41:24. > :41:28.that is an indication of how seriously we take fair treatment for
:41:29. > :41:32.those that work in our NHS. In terms of the future, I made clear that
:41:33. > :41:36.when inflation is rising, pay restraint of that nature cannot be
:41:37. > :41:42.sustainable. We and the NHS have given that commitment to getting a
:41:43. > :41:44.submission with staff representatives that take account of
:41:45. > :41:50.inflation and moving forward where we can secure their outcomes for
:41:51. > :41:54.staff in the NHS and the wider public service. Taking account of
:41:55. > :41:58.affordability, but also the cost of living and the pressures people live
:41:59. > :42:02.with on a day-to-day basis. Thank you, that concludes First Minister's
:42:03. > :42:07.Questions. We come to the conclusion of First
:42:08. > :42:10.Minister's Questions, dominated and overshadowed by the tragic events in
:42:11. > :42:17.Manchester, particularly the death of young Eilidh MacLeod, a
:42:18. > :42:22.14-year-old girl from Barra. We heard from the political leaders,
:42:23. > :42:26.the idea of commonality, of humankind, the idea that we grieve
:42:27. > :42:32.with those who have died, Patrick Harvie extending it to other
:42:33. > :42:36.tragedies as well. On these sorts of occasions, poetry occurs to me.
:42:37. > :42:44.Perhaps John Donne put it best, "Each man's death diminishes me, for
:42:45. > :42:51.I am involved in mankind," it was very much the attitude and
:42:52. > :42:54.understanding in the background for a minute's silence held in
:42:55. > :43:02.Parliament earlier, as it was throughout the whole of the UK.
:43:03. > :43:19.Let's see this seems from that occasion across Scotland. -- scenes.
:43:20. > :43:42.Concluding there with the parliamentary leaders joined by the
:43:43. > :43:57.presiding officer here Let's talk about the tone first,
:43:58. > :44:00.Patrick Harvie described it as an appropriate tone, but it began with
:44:01. > :44:05.Ruth Davidson and Kezia Dugdale, they got it right. They did. Today,
:44:06. > :44:11.we saw Parliament not arguing but discussing and remembering. Ruth
:44:12. > :44:18.Davidson asked a question very respectfully, and she decided not to
:44:19. > :44:23.adopt the usual approach, which is, as we would normally see, to ask a
:44:24. > :44:26.difficult question and put the first list on the spot. Instead, she asked
:44:27. > :44:32.youth Parliament to say what issues affecting young people would like to
:44:33. > :44:37.address. She chose mental health. She chose mental health in a very
:44:38. > :44:41.respect for way. Way she asked it was she was still challenging and
:44:42. > :44:46.requesting changes, requesting enhanced service, but it was asked
:44:47. > :44:50.in a consensual fashion. Absolutely. The First Minister started by
:44:51. > :44:55.thanking her for the question and the way she asked it. Ruth Davidson
:44:56. > :44:58.added her thanks to the First Minister's response. Later on, when
:44:59. > :45:04.she asked another supplementary question, noted that often, as we
:45:05. > :45:08.have seen in recent weeks, debates are about funding. But in fact, she
:45:09. > :45:13.decided not to go down that line come and instead talked about how
:45:14. > :45:18.important organisations like the Guides and Boys' Brigade are, giving
:45:19. > :45:27.an opportunity for the First Minister to add her agreement. Who
:45:28. > :45:30.would have thought John Storey was in the Boys' Brigade. Kezia Dugdale
:45:31. > :45:35.to us directly to Barra and the families greeting there with her
:45:36. > :45:40.opening remarks. She went straight into the emotional heart of it, if
:45:41. > :45:44.you like. It is the place we are all thinking of at the moment. It is
:45:45. > :45:50.very difficult in these situations when we asked several days from a
:45:51. > :45:55.tragedy like that, and everybody involved here knows the election
:45:56. > :46:00.campaign is not zooming today, about to resume. It is there, pending. We
:46:01. > :46:06.are on a strange boundary between the hiatus, which came after
:46:07. > :46:10.Manchester, and the resumption of campaigning. What we saw today in
:46:11. > :46:16.the chamber was how the politicians have managed very successfully to
:46:17. > :46:20.bridge that, using emotional terms that Kezia Dugdale did, but moving
:46:21. > :46:26.on to more serious topics, and in her case she talked about ovarian
:46:27. > :46:29.cancer. And then we were on to more, if you like, combated questions
:46:30. > :46:37.after that. She moved on to a health question later. She asked about
:46:38. > :46:45.health pay. It didn't seem to jar, because it was done in a respectful
:46:46. > :46:53.fashion. You had to raise some topics, but it didn't seem to jar.
:46:54. > :46:56.In the 45 minutes, we travelled a long way from the tributes,
:46:57. > :47:01.condolences and respect, and by the end of it, we had almost got back to
:47:02. > :47:10.a very respectful form of campaigning. Political debate and
:47:11. > :47:15.discourse. For that reason, it has been very important in this process.
:47:16. > :47:22.Before we did that, Rebecca, Patrick Harvie raising some important
:47:23. > :47:35.points, he was the one I had most in mind when I quoted Dunne, people
:47:36. > :47:41.moving. What he was saying was we must value all lives that are lost,
:47:42. > :47:51.of children... He drew an applause for that. He did. It was a heartfelt
:47:52. > :47:55.applause, I felt. The First Minister absolutely reiterating what he had
:47:56. > :48:02.said, stressing that every life matters. He also then went on to
:48:03. > :48:09.talk about the so-called amendment, and whether this is a moment...
:48:10. > :48:15.Asylum. Offering asylum to refugees, and saying, would this be an
:48:16. > :48:20.appropriate moment for the First Minister to reiterate her support
:48:21. > :48:22.for that. It was a tricky one, ultimately, for the First Minister,
:48:23. > :48:30.because she then had to say literally nothing, to excuse the
:48:31. > :48:34.Manchester bomb, but the events did not happen in a vacuum. That
:48:35. > :48:39.exchange with Patrick Harvie gave us the first edge of real politics to
:48:40. > :48:44.it, because the First Minister said that she absolutely supported the UK
:48:45. > :48:46.Government when it came to not now sharing intelligence with the
:48:47. > :48:51.American authorities because of what has happened, and the leaks that
:48:52. > :48:54.have happened on the other side of the Atlantic. She came back to say
:48:55. > :49:00.she disagreed with the UK Government as far as its policy on child
:49:01. > :49:05.refugees. That was the first inkling of a little bit of what we might
:49:06. > :49:10.call a party politics edging in. As you say, she trod a clear line by
:49:11. > :49:13.making it absolutely clear that as far as the Manchester bombing was
:49:14. > :49:17.concerned, the bomber was responsible, and nobody else. Let's
:49:18. > :49:23.talk about those two elements. The issue of the relations with the US,
:49:24. > :49:28.and UK policy. The First Minister saying she disagreed with it on the
:49:29. > :49:32.issue of asylum. The approach to asylum, this was not the day to say
:49:33. > :49:37.it. Did she manage... It is a difficult course to straddle. You
:49:38. > :49:41.can't say it is the day not to say it and go on and say it. But the
:49:42. > :49:47.tone she struck was so respectful and so measured, I think she got
:49:48. > :49:52.away with it. That was the only occasion when we drifted into
:49:53. > :49:55.perhaps a little bit of intergovernmental party politics.
:49:56. > :50:03.She proper begot away with it. Do you agree with her? Yes, absolutely.
:50:04. > :50:09.Tone was key throughout. So much of what we talk about when we stand
:50:10. > :50:15.here is the body language, the emotion, the sometimes quite
:50:16. > :50:20.personal veiled insults. Let's be frank, they arrive with barbs. Today
:50:21. > :50:25.they didn't arrive with them, they dispensed with them. They did not.
:50:26. > :50:32.It was a very different type of exchange that we were seeing.
:50:33. > :50:37.Arguably, we should see more of this respectful exchange on a daily
:50:38. > :50:40.basis. What about the issue of US intelligence, quite a remarkable
:50:41. > :50:44.development. It may be short-term, it may be more of a gesture, but in
:50:45. > :50:48.practice they are cooperating behind-the-scenes. But currently,
:50:49. > :50:50.the UK authorities are saying they will currently not share
:50:51. > :50:56.intelligence with the US because they cannot trust them. Absolutely.
:50:57. > :50:59.It comes down to this fact which the First Minister said herself, it
:51:00. > :51:05.could have compromised the investigation. There is really
:51:06. > :51:10.nothing more serious than that. She was dressing she agreed entirely
:51:11. > :51:13.with the UK Government, until they are absolute you sure that this will
:51:14. > :51:21.not happen again, I cannot afford to take that risk. It UK Government to
:51:22. > :51:26.cut out its most good can ally on intelligence. It will not have been
:51:27. > :51:30.taken lightly. If you think about the weight of intelligence that
:51:31. > :51:33.comes one way or the other, guests, the Americans rely on what we give
:51:34. > :51:37.them, but we probably will I am awful lot more on what we get from
:51:38. > :51:45.the Americans. Nicola Sturgeon mentioned the five I's, where
:51:46. > :51:49.sharing is done on a regular basis. If we say to the Americans got we
:51:50. > :51:56.will not share information with you, it does not disrupt transatlantic
:51:57. > :52:01.tray, it disrupts the five I's. A big decision to take. But around the
:52:02. > :52:07.chamber, politicians of all parties supported. Is it just a gesture?
:52:08. > :52:10.There is no way you can tell. But in practice, there may be some
:52:11. > :52:14.cooperation. It must be reflective of a huge agree of anger in the
:52:15. > :52:20.British intelligence and security and police community. There will be
:52:21. > :52:23.huge anger. Any suggestion that the investigation has in any way been
:52:24. > :52:28.compromised by the intelligence services on the other side of the
:52:29. > :52:32.Atlantic, yes. There will be huge, huge anger at the side. But you
:52:33. > :52:35.would think that this intelligence sharing is so important to both
:52:36. > :52:40.sides that one would hope they would both get back together within a
:52:41. > :52:43.matter of days, and hopefully at that point, with the American
:52:44. > :52:47.intelligence agencies agreeing that this will not happen again. Do you
:52:48. > :52:52.agree? Again, the First Minister alluded to the fact that the Prime
:52:53. > :52:59.Minister will be meeting with Donald Trump today. One would hope that
:53:00. > :53:11.that would then mean an absolute end to any further leaks. Let me turn
:53:12. > :53:16.you to another issue, Tavistock made a mention of using Scotland's
:53:17. > :53:20.database and facilities to write little understanding, something that
:53:21. > :53:25.has been raised by numerous MSPs, you don't want a backlash of hate.
:53:26. > :53:30.You would a backlash of understanding. Patrick Harvie saying
:53:31. > :53:42.we must reject divisive responses to this. Then point was made, education
:53:43. > :53:46.and the problems arrive often from ignorance. The backlash that we have
:53:47. > :53:50.sometimes seen in the past, it arrives out of ignorance. The only
:53:51. > :53:53.way to tackle that is through education, saying that the resources
:53:54. > :53:57.of museums and galleries should be used to help promote understanding.
:53:58. > :54:02.An interesting idea coming out of that context of trying to spread
:54:03. > :54:05.mutual understanding. I thought it was actually a very nice way of
:54:06. > :54:08.tying in what is happening in Parliament today. One of the
:54:09. > :54:13.committee 's this morning was dealing with the issue of national
:54:14. > :54:18.collections and what is going to happen with Brexit and so on,
:54:19. > :54:21.looking at those things. He had come from the committee, and you are
:54:22. > :54:25.right, there is a way to tie it in. The point he made was important, it
:54:26. > :54:30.is about understanding. It is about getting rid of the prejudice, if you
:54:31. > :54:33.like, perhaps on both sides, and that way trying to undermine any of
:54:34. > :54:42.those who perhaps want to spread terror. Hang on a couple of seconds,
:54:43. > :54:47.we will be back with you shortly. He doesn't get a question every week
:54:48. > :54:51.come sometimes he is left out, Patrick Harvie was left out. On this
:54:52. > :54:55.occasion, he did not get a question. We thought it right that he
:54:56. > :55:00.contribute to this programme. Kirsten Campbell asked him about his
:55:01. > :55:03.reaction to events. What's great is there hasn't been a
:55:04. > :55:07.backlash and I hope that continues. It is important that we reach out
:55:08. > :55:12.beyond our communities to make sure that everybody feels safe and
:55:13. > :55:15.secure, because we should not demonise anybody. We should reach
:55:16. > :55:20.out, linking arms in arms, making sure that we do not demonise anybody
:55:21. > :55:23.in society. What about the general election campaign, when will things
:55:24. > :55:27.get back to normal in that regard? I can see after First Minister's
:55:28. > :55:32.Questions today, political campaigning will be slowly grinding
:55:33. > :55:36.back into action. It is important on the process of democracy must
:55:37. > :55:42.continue. People are getting back to their lives. Manchester United
:55:43. > :55:45.played football and won, so it is important for everybody else,
:55:46. > :55:51.including the democratic process, gets back, too. Otherwise the
:55:52. > :55:54.terrorists win. The terrorists win if normality
:55:55. > :55:59.isn't resumed, but normality is difficult after the dreadful events
:56:00. > :56:03.in Manchester. Let's talk with my colleagues again about that. Rebecca
:56:04. > :56:05.first, the beginning of local campaigning today, the beginning
:56:06. > :56:12.perhaps tomorrow of national campaigning. That's right. I don't
:56:13. > :56:16.think we should expect it to go back to business as usual immediately. It
:56:17. > :56:19.helps in a way that tomorrow is Friday going into the weekend. We
:56:20. > :56:25.will see something more like normal campaigning next week. But as you
:56:26. > :56:28.have just said, there is a strong sense I think that this is a very
:56:29. > :56:36.important election coming up in two weeks' time, to indefinitely stop
:56:37. > :56:41.campaigning would be a victory for the terrorists. The possibility of
:56:42. > :56:45.manifestos this week on the day of the tragedy itself instead of
:56:46. > :56:48.convening a meeting of the emergency committee, of the own Scottish
:56:49. > :56:52.Government. Nicola Sturgeon was meant to launch her party's and
:56:53. > :56:57.fester, but that is postponed until next week. The three we have left
:56:58. > :57:02.are the Greens, the Scottish Liberal Democrats and the SNP. My feeling
:57:03. > :57:05.is, it will certainly be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday next week.
:57:06. > :57:11.Probably the Greens on Monday, the SNP on Tuesday, and the Scottish Lib
:57:12. > :57:14.Dems on Wednesday. Through the manifesto launches, we will be back
:57:15. > :57:18.campaigning, full-blown political campaigning. Will it be with the
:57:19. > :57:22.appropriate tone that Patrick Harvie was calling for today? It will be to
:57:23. > :57:29.start with. What is interesting is how quickly or how long it takes for
:57:30. > :57:33.us to get back into, if you like, the more aggressive, pugilistic,
:57:34. > :57:38.shouting sort of politics that we come to expect. I think it. Of
:57:39. > :57:42.muted, but it is difficult to see politicians holding back forever.
:57:43. > :57:45.When they have ten days or so to go after the beginning of next week.
:57:46. > :57:53.Rebecca, what is your boat on that on the tone? -- your thoughts on
:57:54. > :57:58.that. The investigation will be ongoing, there will still be news
:57:59. > :58:03.coming out on an ongoing basis. Particular care will be given to any
:58:04. > :58:06.issue around terrorism and home affairs, but ultimately, there is a
:58:07. > :58:12.general election, a very important one in two weeks' time. And we can
:58:13. > :58:18.expect some business as usual to return. The tone, will it be more
:58:19. > :58:22.subdued briefly? It will be more subdued. We need to look at next
:58:23. > :58:27.week's First Minister's Questions. To set the tone? Yes, we will see a
:58:28. > :58:33.marked difference from this week, and also back to where we usually
:58:34. > :58:39.are with normal party politics as law. Thank you for joining me. A
:58:40. > :58:44.different set of questions to the first Minster, dominated, of course,
:58:45. > :58:49.by the events of Manchester, particularly the death of the young
:58:50. > :58:55.girl in a row, our sympathies for the family embarrassment everywhere.
:58:56. > :59:24.-- for the In Japan, art and life are
:59:25. > :59:28.intrinsically connected.