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:00:26. > :00:33.Welcome from the, Brian Taylor, to Holyrood. Issues under discussion,

:00:33. > :00:37.education, spending and the economy. Let us cross to the chamber. We are

:00:37. > :00:44.already underway, the First Minister giving MSPs news of his

:00:44. > :00:49.engagement. Since 2009, an increase the uptake

:00:49. > :00:58.and over 85,000 premises in Scotland are benefiting from that

:00:58. > :01:03.scheme. A comment on the small business bonus scheme. I am looking

:01:03. > :01:07.at a picture of the First Minister signing up to an election pledge

:01:07. > :01:13.for NUS Scotland, to protect college places, will he keep that

:01:13. > :01:21.promise? The Scottish Government intends to keep all its promises in

:01:21. > :01:24.its manifesto. The manifesto says, we have agreement with universities

:01:24. > :01:29.and colleges to maintain student numbers and will maintain this

:01:29. > :01:35.throughout the next Parliament. The manifesto states this and we will

:01:35. > :01:39.go forward with this. I welcome him saying he will stick to this pledge,

:01:39. > :01:43.although all I am a little sceptical. Is the sea kind of

:01:43. > :01:48.promise he would keep to his manifesto pledge to reduce

:01:48. > :01:55.classroom sizes to 18 or the pledge to maintain teacher numbers? Those

:01:55. > :01:59.were pledges signed up to and, yesterday, the Education Secretary

:01:59. > :02:04.told the education committee that something has to give. This letter

:02:04. > :02:11.from the principle of Angus College says that Alex Salmond has cut his

:02:11. > :02:17.teaching budget by 40% and that 2000 places will be cut. This is

:02:17. > :02:25.what has been given. Will he just be honest? College places are going

:02:25. > :02:29.to be cut. I would have thought Iain Gray might have realised that

:02:29. > :02:36.the funding council has not issued the plans for each college. I am

:02:36. > :02:43.afraid that his suggestions are threadbare. He can debate it at

:02:43. > :02:46.that time. What is remarkable about the spending plan, and these are

:02:46. > :02:51.extraordinarily difficult Financial Times, Iain Gray would acknowledge

:02:51. > :02:55.that, given a large part of that difficulty was the responsibility

:02:55. > :03:00.of the Labour Government. I do not think there is much. Makin debating

:03:00. > :03:10.what was said in the last term of the parliament. -- I do not think

:03:10. > :03:16.

:03:16. > :03:26.Over the Spending Review period from 2012-2013, 2014-2015, looking

:03:26. > :03:32.at universities, colleges, training and skills, it is rising from 1.9 2

:03:32. > :03:38.billion to 1.99 bn. An increase of 3.2%. Against the context of cuts

:03:38. > :03:43.that were promised by Alistair Darling to be tougher and deeper

:03:43. > :03:47.than those of Margaret Thatcher, which have then been increased by

:03:47. > :03:53.blue liberal conservative coalition. That is a remarkable investment in

:03:53. > :03:58.the future of young people in Scotland. Frankly, I think for

:03:58. > :04:02.those involved in the running of Angus College they will feel the

:04:02. > :04:10.First Minister is in a parallel universe. This allowed lines cuts

:04:10. > :04:14.of 40%. 2000 student opportunities will go. Yesterday the Education

:04:14. > :04:19.Secretary says these were just hypothetical. But there are real

:04:19. > :04:24.cuts in college places already. I spent Saturday at the hardest big

:04:24. > :04:29.rally in Edinburgh. Disabled people fear for their future. Their

:04:29. > :04:36.figures show that almost 1,000 college places for disabled

:04:36. > :04:42.learners have already gone. That is getting on for 50% across Scotland.

:04:42. > :04:48.Do the Scots have no place and Alex Salmond's brave new world? Why are

:04:49. > :04:52.you not protecting these places? What about their future? Can I

:04:52. > :04:58.remind Iain Gray of the manifesto commitment to maintain student

:04:58. > :05:02.numbers and that is what we will do? I have set out, given we do not

:05:02. > :05:06.have figures for individual colleges, I have set out the

:05:06. > :05:12.overall pictures for post 16 education. As to your specific

:05:12. > :05:19.question, the phrase, opportunities for all, is exactly what it means.

:05:19. > :05:22.Every single 16-19-year-old from Scotland who is not in a job,

:05:22. > :05:26.apprenticeship or full-time education will be offered an

:05:26. > :05:32.educational or training opportunity. That is what opportunities for all

:05:32. > :05:37.means. Instead of attacking bat, he should welcome that commitment in

:05:37. > :05:41.the face of cutbacks which are the responsibility, jointly, all

:05:41. > :05:49.successful -- of successive Westminster, Liberal and

:05:49. > :05:58.Conservative governments. -- and Labour governments. That is a

:05:58. > :06:03.promise from the Labour manifesto. I welcome it. But the Scottish

:06:03. > :06:08.consortium for learning disability tell him that opportunities are

:06:08. > :06:12.being removed right now for Scots with learning disabilities. Are

:06:12. > :06:17.those people not included in that promise? Alex Salmond spent the

:06:17. > :06:24.weekend rallying fatal troops and Inverness, rewarding them with

:06:24. > :06:34.wristbands. -- rallying the troops. I knew some people would hold them

:06:34. > :06:35.

:06:35. > :06:39.up. Perhaps he missed the news that applications for universities have

:06:39. > :06:47.plummeted and that the education system is consistently failing our

:06:47. > :06:52.poorest children and young people with disabilities. He must know

:06:52. > :06:58.that one in four of young men cannot find work. He has led to

:06:58. > :07:02.youth unemployment double in this country. When is he going to stop

:07:02. > :07:12.banging on about a mythical independence generation and start

:07:12. > :07:13.

:07:13. > :07:17.doing something for Scotland's lost generation? And I remark that there

:07:17. > :07:27.are substantially more SNP troops and vaults than there are Labour

:07:27. > :07:29.

:07:29. > :07:35.Party troops and bolts. -- votes. Youth employment in Scotland, youth

:07:35. > :07:41.employment is almost 5% higher than it is across the UK. But youth

:07:41. > :07:47.unemployment is far too high, it is a serious issue. That is why we

:07:47. > :07:52.have introduced 25,000 modern apprenticeships. 60% more than were

:07:52. > :07:58.offered by Iain Gray's party when last in Government. That is why we

:07:58. > :08:02.have done as I have said in terms of keeping faith with the post 16

:08:02. > :08:06.education sector. With a remarkable cuts to the Scottish budget, it is

:08:06. > :08:12.extraordinarily -- it is extraordinary that that commitment

:08:12. > :08:16.to education and student numbers is kept. That is why we have

:08:16. > :08:21.opportunities for all. Iain Gray referred to what happened in the

:08:21. > :08:26.last Parliament, then topped about the manifestos of the Labour Party

:08:26. > :08:31.and the SNP. Can I suggest to him what actually happened in May? I

:08:31. > :08:35.know he has difficulty coming to terms with it. People compare the

:08:35. > :08:43.SNP record in Government with the record of the Labour Party in

:08:44. > :08:48.Westminster and Scotland, compared the manifestos, and people came to

:08:48. > :08:58.an overwhelming conclusion. Can I suggest to Iain Gray, just learnt

:08:58. > :08:59.

:08:59. > :09:07.to live with that? Question number two. When will the First Minister

:09:07. > :09:11.of next week the Prime Minister? have no plans in the near future.

:09:11. > :09:15.realised this is my last opportunity of an exchange with the

:09:15. > :09:21.First Minister at Question Time. Just let me reassure him, I will

:09:21. > :09:26.not saying goodbye. I have a feeling that will not encapsulate

:09:26. > :09:31.his sentiments about my going. But can I say I have enjoyed our

:09:31. > :09:36.exchanges? I was proud to deliver a new drugs strategy focused on

:09:36. > :09:41.recovery, but it means nothing if not rolled out on the ground. I was

:09:41. > :09:46.on the forefront of Scotland having an extra 1,000 police officers, but

:09:46. > :09:50.that is diminished if courts cannot prosecute cases. A Scottish

:09:50. > :09:56.Conservative votes helped businesses with the business rates.

:09:56. > :09:59.But by businesses will be hit with higher rates. How has the First

:09:59. > :10:06.Minister undermined such good policies in such a short space of

:10:06. > :10:12.time? Annabel Goldie understates the importance and long lasting

:10:12. > :10:18.nature of these policies. We have made substantial progress and I

:10:18. > :10:22.welcome her support for it in terms of drug rehabilitation. The 1,000

:10:22. > :10:26.police are in operation in streets and communities around Scotland at

:10:26. > :10:32.the moment. Others and this chamber said the commitment would never be

:10:32. > :10:40.delivered. -- others in this chamber. We were proved right.

:10:40. > :10:45.Extra police other substantial reason we have a 35 year low, a low

:10:45. > :10:50.in recorded crime in Scotland. We now know that the Scottish business

:10:50. > :10:56.bonus scheme is delivering for 85,000 properties in Scotland. That

:10:56. > :10:59.seems to me a substantial achievement. I am very happy to

:10:59. > :11:04.Credit Annabel Goldie with her support for these valuable

:11:04. > :11:09.initiatives. And I hope she will realise that whatever may happen I

:11:09. > :11:16.will just have to pursue these things alone, but I assure you, I

:11:16. > :11:22.assure Annabel Goldie I shall protect her legacy. There is an

:11:22. > :11:26.election fought a new Conservative leader in Scotland. One enjoyable

:11:26. > :11:30.feature of this job is raining in the First Minister's beaks you

:11:30. > :11:37.Princes. His priorities of independence and the Middle East

:11:37. > :11:41.are not the priorities of people, students, victims. -- rain in his

:11:41. > :11:47.exuberance. Mal the First Minister is but the Lord Advocate for a

:11:47. > :11:50.crisis meeting for prosecutors to insure criminal cases are not

:11:50. > :11:54.barred by time? Will you report of this Parliament on the burgeoning

:11:54. > :12:00.and inescapable problem of caring for elderly in hospital? And what

:12:00. > :12:06.you explain how a 25% increase over five years in the cost of methadone

:12:06. > :12:12.is compatible with a drug strategy focusing on recovery? I will take

:12:12. > :12:17.careful note and take forward all of these important issues as

:12:17. > :12:22.instructed by Annabel Goldie. Can I say, in terms of our last question,

:12:22. > :12:28.everything I said before the recess, when I got it was the last question,

:12:28. > :12:33.it applies and stands. If I could offer this complement, which came

:12:33. > :12:37.from one of the contenders in the Tory leadership election on

:12:37. > :12:41.television the other night, the reality is that whoever wins this

:12:41. > :12:46.leadership election will at least in the short term will be less well

:12:46. > :12:50.known and less popular with the public as Annabel Goldie. I do not

:12:50. > :12:55.think any of the four a buzz can turn things around in a short space

:12:55. > :13:00.of time. It was from Murdo Fraser on television. I think he was

:13:00. > :13:04.trying to say what I believe and I am sure this chamber believes that

:13:04. > :13:08.Annabel Goldie, of whatever the electoral results, was an excellent

:13:08. > :13:12.leader for the Scottish Conservative Party and I believe

:13:12. > :13:15.she maximise the possible vote for the Conservatives, because she was

:13:15. > :13:20.well thought of, well liked, respected by the Scottish

:13:20. > :13:26.population, both for how she put forward ideas and, above all, for

:13:26. > :13:36.the manner in which she put them forward, because I, too, enjoyed

:13:36. > :13:44.our exchanges. Thank you, Annabel. APPLAUSE. You have a final

:13:44. > :13:51.Supplemental question. I am indebted to the presiding officer

:13:51. > :14:00.and an back the Prime Minister... LAUGHTER. The First Minister. --

:14:00. > :14:06.and I thank the Prime Minister. LAUGHTER.

:14:06. > :14:10.It is good to give him a taste of what will never be. I remember the

:14:10. > :14:16.First Minister dolefully of surfing of a previous Prime Minister that

:14:16. > :14:23.he never writes or calls. And the leave this seat and I may not be

:14:23. > :14:33.invited for drinks, but he has not heard the last of me. I shall write

:14:33. > :14:33.

:14:33. > :14:41.and I shall call. And I shall answer the telephone, reply to the

:14:41. > :14:51.letters and invitations will be in the post. A constituency question

:14:51. > :14:51.

:14:51. > :14:55.There was a brutal murder in my constituency last weekend and there

:14:55. > :15:03.has been shock and horror in the community. Could he give the

:15:03. > :15:08.parliament an update on the investigation. The constituency

:15:08. > :15:15.member describes the murder as brittle, as indeed it was. It was a

:15:15. > :15:19.shocking incident. The police are obviously responsible for the

:15:20. > :15:24.inquiry but they have said publicly that they anticipate a positive

:15:24. > :15:33.conclusion of their inquiries and I think it remains for the parliament

:15:33. > :15:38.to offer condolences for the friends and family. The first

:15:38. > :15:44.minister will be aware of recent press reports concerning radiation

:15:44. > :15:49.levels at a particular beach and that radiation is 100 times greater

:15:49. > :15:58.than another one. This is of concern to residents. Will he agree

:15:58. > :15:59.with me it is imperative to stay all agencies including SEPA and the

:15:59. > :16:02.MoD working together effectively to tackle this issue once and for all,

:16:02. > :16:11.and there is no room for any further delay in getting to the

:16:11. > :16:15.scale of the problem and solving it. As everyone knows, SEPA are

:16:15. > :16:20.actively involved in this question at the present moment and are

:16:20. > :16:24.pursuing the matter with great alacrity. I do hope they will get

:16:24. > :16:31.full co-operation from the responsible Westminster department.

:16:31. > :16:35.It is in all of our interests that the MoD approach this matter openly

:16:35. > :16:44.and you can be certain that SEPA will pursue its responsibilities

:16:44. > :16:48.with great diligence. To ask the First Minister what the Scottish

:16:48. > :16:53.Government position is on the decision by the Westminster

:16:53. > :16:58.Government to not proceed with the proposed carbon capture storage

:16:58. > :17:01.project at Longannet power station? Carbon capture and storage, the

:17:01. > :17:05.project at Longannet was a huge opportunity not just for Scotland

:17:05. > :17:10.but for the rest of these islands and for Europe. It is now

:17:10. > :17:15.unfortunately a lost opportunity. I recognise the strong case made by

:17:15. > :17:18.the MSP on behalf of his constituents in this Parliament and

:17:18. > :17:21.elsewhere and I know the chamber will be united in condemnation of

:17:21. > :17:25.the Treasury decision that ends the prospects of this world leading

:17:25. > :17:28.project and threatens the future of clean coal in Scotland. This is

:17:28. > :17:32.more than about a single project. It tells us loud and clear that

:17:32. > :17:39.this Parliament should be responsible for Scotland's energy

:17:39. > :17:44.future and energy resources. APPLAUSE I thank the first minister

:17:44. > :17:49.for his response. This is truly a missed opportunity for Fife and the

:17:49. > :17:53.form of Scotland. The Treasury and the Westminster department dithered

:17:53. > :17:58.and disagreed over the necessary funding despite the fact that the

:17:58. > :18:02.whole project could have been covered in this costing by one

:18:02. > :18:06.tenths of the yearly estimated North Sea oil and gas revenues.

:18:06. > :18:11.you get to the question, please? Will the First Minister continue to

:18:11. > :18:16.make the case to the Westminster Government that it is simply not

:18:16. > :18:22.acceptable to mouth the words of support about carbon capture, but

:18:22. > :18:32.what is needed is real action. This is needed so that Scotland can

:18:32. > :18:33.

:18:33. > :18:40.capitalise on this massive economic opportunity. A Scottish experts

:18:40. > :18:43.said, it has gone through three prime ministers, or half -- all of

:18:43. > :18:47.Hume claimed to be enthusiastic about carbon capture and storage,

:18:47. > :18:50.none of whom have been able to deliver it. It has been subject to

:18:50. > :18:57.quite unfair Treasury rules and the Government has consistently refused

:18:57. > :19:03.to take on board much of the risk. I think is. At a time when the

:19:03. > :19:06.North Sea oil and gas revenues are up over �13 billion for this year

:19:06. > :19:12.alone, it would not have been unreasonable to expect expenditure

:19:12. > :19:22.of one-tenth of that to secure the long-term future of clean coal in

:19:22. > :19:26.

:19:26. > :19:29.Scotland. It is perhaps unhelpful to suggest that... Does the first

:19:29. > :19:32.minister agreed that there is every confidence that the project in

:19:32. > :19:37.Peterhead is the one that others will have to beat, and can he

:19:37. > :19:43.confirm that when a project Beacons in 50% over budget, it is his view

:19:43. > :19:48.that ministers should proceed regardless? I really do think that

:19:48. > :19:53.the members should have a look at the expert's full interview on

:19:53. > :19:57.Newsnight, where he exposed the reality behind the Treasury

:19:57. > :20:02.calculations, the application of risk and project factors work quite

:20:02. > :20:07.-- in a quite unreasonable fashion. I sat behind the Liberal members in

:20:07. > :20:11.the House of Commons when they condemned in the most strong

:20:11. > :20:17.fashion the Labour Government turning its back on the Peterhead

:20:17. > :20:21.project in 2007. Is it too much to expect that liberal people will see

:20:21. > :20:25.the Longannet betrayal as a last opportunity for coal and he can be

:20:25. > :20:30.sure that we will be pressing to the utmost to try and secure and

:20:30. > :20:34.salvage a carbon Catcher project for Scotland. But he must, surely

:20:34. > :20:39.must, recognise the huge disappointment, the use of lost

:20:39. > :20:43.opportunity and the unfairness, of Cobham capture in Scotland have not

:20:43. > :20:53.being funded while Scotland's Resources fund his Government in

:20:53. > :20:54.

:20:54. > :20:59.Westminster. The first minister has a close

:20:59. > :21:03.relationship with the parent company. Has he or anyone him his

:21:03. > :21:07.Government taken the opportunity to speak to the trade unions represent

:21:07. > :21:16.you of Scottish Power for two as if they have we any long-term concerns

:21:16. > :21:19.about lung damage and energy policy more widely? Congress are on the

:21:19. > :21:24.Energy Advisory Board for Scotland, which I chair, and we have

:21:24. > :21:29.discussed this project Minis wrens. I would be pleased to meet the

:21:29. > :21:35.trade unions at Longannet to discuss the future of clean coal in

:21:35. > :21:39.Scotland that this subject was centred on this Coburn Catcher

:21:39. > :21:43.project and I take it from the comments made by Labour members at

:21:43. > :21:47.Westminster, which struck me as not as thorough going as I would have

:21:47. > :21:52.expected given the significance of this announcement, I do not think I

:21:52. > :21:55.am right. I am right in saying it was not actually mentioned in the

:21:55. > :21:59.statement by Chris Huhne from the Labour front bench. This is an

:21:59. > :22:04.extraordinarily important decision and one which casts a cloud over

:22:04. > :22:08.the future of clean coal in Scotland. So I would be delighted

:22:08. > :22:15.to meet the trade unions but I expect that at Longannet Bay will

:22:15. > :22:18.recognise the element of betrayal in this UK Government decision.

:22:18. > :22:23.ask the first minister what steps the Scottish Government is taking

:22:23. > :22:28.to support Scotland's to be defence industry. A range of steps to

:22:29. > :22:33.support the company's. In 2009 we invested �3 million in making to

:22:33. > :22:39.Aberdeen University the UK's first ever centre of excellence for

:22:39. > :22:44.computer games. There were major investments in Glasgow and in

:22:44. > :22:51.Dundee. That commitment has borne a strong result. For example, in

:22:51. > :22:55.February I was delighted to announce a plan to establish one

:22:55. > :23:03.company's headquarters in Dundee, creating 150 jobs, relocating from

:23:03. > :23:06.California. Earlier this week, the videos industry body Tiger and a

:23:06. > :23:10.trade group recognise the positive difference that independence could

:23:10. > :23:13.make to the industry and criticise the UK Government for failing to

:23:13. > :23:16.invest in the Scottish games sector. Will be theirs Minister join with

:23:16. > :23:20.me in urging the UK Government to offer specifically targeted tax

:23:20. > :23:23.relief to support these vital industry? And can ask him if he

:23:23. > :23:27.will continue the support the Scottish Government is giving to

:23:27. > :23:31.the industry by considering the case for it content fund and meet

:23:31. > :23:38.with myself and games industry representatives to explore this

:23:38. > :23:43.proposal? These are very important proposals indeed. I recognise what

:23:43. > :23:47.Tiger have been saying in terms of the computer games industry. Their

:23:47. > :23:51.case for tax relief was based on the argument that revenues would

:23:51. > :23:56.increase if the tax relief would be granted and cited international

:23:56. > :24:01.examples because of the attraction of key investments into Dundee and

:24:01. > :24:08.Scotland. Example of why you need control over a tax-based if you are

:24:08. > :24:12.going to offer such incentives in a successful way. His last point, Joe

:24:12. > :24:17.Fitzpatrick is aware that across the Scottish Government to examine

:24:17. > :24:27.the establishment of creative content. I have asked officials to

:24:27. > :24:30.

:24:30. > :24:33.meet with Tiger to discuss how this might go ahead. Given that not only

:24:33. > :24:37.has the UK Government failed to introduce gains tax relief despite

:24:37. > :24:40.reassurances by the last Government that they would and that the

:24:40. > :24:43.present Government had shown a desire to do so, given that Ireland

:24:43. > :24:49.are considering -- seems to be considering taxpayers in this area,

:24:49. > :24:56.with the First Minister agreed that it is vital that the Government

:24:56. > :25:01.acts now to ensure that the games industry continues in Scotland? Do

:25:01. > :25:06.we need the powers ourselves? it is vital and yes, we need the

:25:06. > :25:09.powers. The proposals put forward by Tiger, based on international

:25:09. > :25:14.examples, illustrated how at this particular sector could operate in

:25:14. > :25:17.an environment where relief from tax breaks would result in an

:25:17. > :25:21.increase in the Revenue because of increased investment. To his

:25:21. > :25:26.chamber, it is often need -- obvious that previous governments

:25:26. > :25:31.have refused to do this. Would it not be better if we controlled the

:25:31. > :25:35.tax incentives so that we could respond in the way these vital

:25:35. > :25:43.industry wants from Dundee and for Scotland as a whole question of

:25:43. > :25:50.Are a wonder if the first minister has considered a targeted tax

:25:50. > :25:54.relief with the power that he actually has in the business rates?

:25:54. > :26:00.Can I just point out we have considered a very well-targeted

:26:00. > :26:03.business rate policy which has resulted in 85,000 businesses

:26:03. > :26:07.across Scotland are enjoying the Small Business Bonus Scheme. And I

:26:07. > :26:11.have to say, with some of the things I have been hearing in this

:26:11. > :26:16.Tory leadership contest, I am not certain if future Conservative

:26:17. > :26:22.leader will be as dedicated and support that SNP a mission live as

:26:22. > :26:26.Annabel Goldie has been. To ask the First Minister what steps the

:26:26. > :26:30.Scottish Government... Sorry, whether the Scottish Government

:26:30. > :26:34.will investigate claims that patients are being offered

:26:34. > :26:40.unrealistic surgery appointment in England in order to circumvent

:26:40. > :26:43.waiting times targets. Government is committed to lower

:26:43. > :26:46.waiting times and to complete transparency around the reporting

:26:46. > :26:53.of waiting times. It was his Government who abolished hidden

:26:53. > :26:55.waiting lists. Initial findings from the NHS Lothian is that they

:26:55. > :27:00.did not make their patients a reasonable offer and offered only

:27:01. > :27:06.one appointment date to patients. This does not comply with the new

:27:06. > :27:09.waiting times guidance. The chief executive has initiated a full

:27:09. > :27:13.investigation which will report in early November. A copy of the

:27:13. > :27:17.report will be submitted to Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon. All

:27:17. > :27:22.patients concerned are now being treated locally and are no longer

:27:22. > :27:26.having to be offered treatment in England. I thank the first minister

:27:26. > :27:30.for that helpful reply in resolving the situation but the new waiting

:27:30. > :27:36.times initiative, which is actually an initiative from Rover, then

:27:36. > :27:40.implemented fully by the SNP, a scheme to which both party are

:27:40. > :27:44.joined up. It has resulted in 100,000 patients being removed from

:27:44. > :27:47.the waiting lists every year. Many of these are for valid reasons but

:27:47. > :27:52.my question is this, given the large numbers that are being

:27:52. > :27:56.removed and the evidence that this case shows of new gaming, which led

:27:56. > :28:01.to the problem with hidden waiting lists, will he asked the Cabinet

:28:01. > :28:04.Secretary for Health to now undertake a review of the waiting

:28:04. > :28:11.times to make sure there is no gaming taking place in other areas

:28:11. > :28:15.in Scotland? PRESENTER: We will have to leave it there. We heard

:28:15. > :28:19.the Prime Minister's substantive answer to that point. But there had

:28:19. > :28:25.been a sick and be thick -- a situation in Lothian and that there

:28:25. > :28:30.was reform there. A very intriguing set of discussions. Very warm with

:28:30. > :28:35.Annabel Goldie, praising her on her last session of questions. But very

:28:35. > :28:39.bitter and shop indeed with regard to Iain Gray. He said, live with

:28:39. > :28:44.the result, with regard to the outcome of the Scottish elections.