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:00:23. > :00:28.Parliament at Holyrood, where MSP's have been talking referendum. What

:00:29. > :00:31.else is new, and yet you ask. They were discussing the content of the

:00:31. > :00:34.referendum, they were taking evidence from the campaign teams on

:00:34. > :00:40.the rules and regulations that will have on that referendum. There will

:00:40. > :00:44.be more about content on the next programme, which is the questions

:00:44. > :00:54.for the First Minister. In the chair today, presiding, will be John

:00:54. > :00:57.

:00:57. > :01:01.Scott. Let's cross to the chamber. General questions are still underway

:01:01. > :01:06.and coming to an end before they moved to First Minister's Questions.

:01:07. > :01:10.John Scott in the chair. He had been due to ask a question today.

:01:10. > :01:18.Normally, members who can't ask a question have to provide an excuse,

:01:18. > :01:23.an explanation, well, John Scott's expiration is foolproof. He can't be

:01:23. > :01:30.asking questions and in the chair at the same time. A question be in and

:01:30. > :01:35.sold on screening for pregnant women at the moment. He is outlining the

:01:35. > :01:41.Government's position on that issue. Could be another question yet or we

:01:41. > :01:50.could move straight to First Minister's Questions. We now move to

:01:50. > :01:54.question one. First Minister, what engagements do you have planned for

:01:54. > :02:00.the rest of the day? To take forward the Government's programme for

:02:00. > :02:04.Scotland. Does the First Minister think that George Osborne has cut

:02:04. > :02:10.corporation tax enough honesty of urging the chance to go further?

:02:10. > :02:13.George Osborne is following in the footsteps of Gordon Brown, who as

:02:13. > :02:20.Chancellor cut corporation tax. The Scottish Government have modelled

:02:20. > :02:29.the results of corporation tax rates in Scotland 3% below that of the UK.

:02:29. > :02:35.The results show that 27,000 jobs and an increase of GDP of 1% has

:02:35. > :02:41.happened. I think we should set a competitive rate and then collect

:02:41. > :02:43.the corporation tax. The policy of successive UK governments is to set

:02:43. > :02:51.the corporation tax rate and then not collected. It seems a very

:02:51. > :02:59.strange thing to do. I think that answer sounded like one of Mike

:02:59. > :03:04.Russell's bus trips from Campbeltown. Of course, Gordon Brown

:03:04. > :03:09.did indeed say he would cut corporation tax when it could be

:03:09. > :03:14.shown that we could afford it. The differences, Alex Salmond says if we

:03:14. > :03:20.were independent now, he would cut corporation tax three points lower

:03:20. > :03:24.than George Osborne, whether it makes sense or not. However much

:03:24. > :03:28.George Osborne cuts taxes for his mates in banking, Alex Salmond would

:03:28. > :03:33.cut its father. However deep George Osborne could be seen in the court

:03:33. > :03:39.-- pockets of corporate greed, Alex Salmond would be that bit deeper. He

:03:39. > :03:49.is saying to Google, Amazon, to Starbucks, anyone who wants to evade

:03:49. > :03:50.

:03:50. > :03:53.tax, come to Scotland, there will be less tax to evade. If you would cut

:03:53. > :03:57.corporation tax three points lower than what other -- than whatever

:03:57. > :04:07.George Osborne sets, doesn't it follow that he would have to cut

:04:07. > :04:11.schools and hospitals deeper than George Osborne? Can I introduce a

:04:11. > :04:15.connection to Johann Lamont. Gordon Brown didn't say he would cut

:04:15. > :04:19.corporation tax, he did it. He boasted about doing it and said it

:04:19. > :04:25.was one of the great achievements of his term as Chancellor of the. I

:04:25. > :04:28.mention this because this doesn't put Johann Lamont in a strong

:04:28. > :04:33.position to complain about the policy of corporation tax when

:04:33. > :04:39.Gordon Brown as Chancellor did that in office. Secondly, she should have

:04:39. > :04:41.regard to my first answer. I thought and I commit whereby you had a 3%

:04:41. > :04:47.differential rate of corporation tax for Scotland and the rest of the UK

:04:47. > :04:53.was good for Scotland cos we had analysed it and said it would take

:04:53. > :04:56.27,000 jobs, an increase of GDP, over the medium-term. It seemed to

:04:56. > :05:02.me that the task was to set a competitive rate of corporation tax

:05:02. > :05:05.and collected. I know this will be a surprise to Johann Lamont, but the

:05:05. > :05:09.noncollection of corporation tax across a range of companies didn't

:05:09. > :05:15.start under George Osborne. It started when the Labour Party were

:05:15. > :05:18.in Government. I think our policy of setting a competitive rate of

:05:18. > :05:21.corporation tax and then collecting it is substantially superior to the

:05:21. > :05:31.Labour and Tory policy of setting a rate of corporation tax and

:05:31. > :05:32.

:05:32. > :05:36.forgetting to collected from companies. I think we have come to

:05:36. > :05:40.any strange path when the First Minister imagines he is in a strong

:05:40. > :05:45.position on this question, given his response to what I asked him. If he

:05:45. > :05:50.were on a strong position, perhaps we can question who agrees with the

:05:50. > :05:55.First Minister 's corporation tax policy. We know he agrees with it,

:05:55. > :06:03.and we assumed by the silence that his backbenchers also agree with it.

:06:03. > :06:09.Of course. The only place that appears never to be any debate, of

:06:09. > :06:15.course, is in the SNP backbenchers. However, we know that not Scottish

:06:16. > :06:20.business and not the unions are in support. Not CB I Scotland BS TUC.

:06:20. > :06:28.Not the nation's accountants. This week, not the Scottish Council for

:06:28. > :06:34.that element and industry. Not even the chair of the Yes campaign. You

:06:34. > :06:41.will be gone to know he has one supporter. Tax exile, Gemma called.

:06:41. > :06:47.-- Jim McColl. Does he agree with his one supporter that an

:06:47. > :06:51.independent Scotland capital gains tax should be abolished? To connect

:06:51. > :06:55.Johann Lamont on the report, I would refer to page 22, which points out

:06:55. > :07:02.that it will rate of corporation tax could have a positive effect on

:07:02. > :07:06.attracting investment to Scotland. If it did have a positive effect in

:07:06. > :07:12.attracting investment for Scotland, is as the Scottish Government

:07:12. > :07:17.analysed, it would take 27,000 jobs in Scotland, if over the medium term

:07:17. > :07:22.it would increase Scottish GDP, then presumably the Labour Party wouldn't

:07:23. > :07:27.oppose it on that basis. They wouldn't seriously oppose creating

:07:27. > :07:32.27,000 extra jobs in Scotland. They wouldn't seriously oppose increasing

:07:32. > :07:40.Scottish GDP. If these things are correct, this is a substantially

:07:40. > :07:46.good policy. Especially since the Labour Chancellor implemented in

:07:46. > :07:54.corporation tax in office. As for the attack on Scotland's leading job

:07:54. > :08:04.creator, the Labour Party and the No campaign are registered to attacking

:08:04. > :08:05.

:08:05. > :08:10.seedier staggers in job creation and -- attacking job creators, it shows

:08:10. > :08:16.what has happened to their campaign or the last few weeks. Probably most

:08:16. > :08:21.important word there was if. The First Minister calls and defends his

:08:21. > :08:31.own figures that some of us might not think applies much to scrutiny.

:08:31. > :08:33.

:08:33. > :08:36.The fact of the matter is that the ten Mac one -- that the SCDI... We

:08:36. > :08:44.know that the First Minister things of himself as a talented economist.

:08:44. > :08:49.Not just that, he likes quoting really economists. How many times as

:08:49. > :08:55.he told this chamber about his own adviser and all the Nobel prizes he

:08:55. > :09:01.has one? What is his advisers say about this policy question mark just

:09:01. > :09:05.a month ago, he said, and I quote, some of you have been told that

:09:05. > :09:15.morning tax rates for corporations will lead to more investment. That

:09:15. > :09:16.

:09:16. > :09:26.fact is not true. It is just a gift to the corporations, increasing

:09:26. > :09:27.

:09:27. > :09:30.inequality in our society. So, I agree with the Nobel Prize winning

:09:30. > :09:36.adviser and the businesses, the unions, the professionals, they all

:09:36. > :09:42.say the First Minister is wrong. Can the First Minister tell us who is

:09:42. > :09:50.right? I can't believe the SNP backbenchers are calling the name

:09:50. > :09:57.Gordon Brown, when I am telling them that his own economic adviser...

:09:57. > :10:02.Order. A little bit of calm, please. His own adviser said it was wrong.

:10:02. > :10:09.Can the First Minister tell us who is right? Isn't the First Minister,

:10:09. > :10:19.the ex-RBS economist and renowned adviser to Fred Goodwin, or is it

:10:19. > :10:20.

:10:20. > :10:23.his noble laureate, his economic adviser, who says he is wrong?

:10:23. > :10:28.would point out that Johann Lamont can't divorce herself from Gordon

:10:28. > :10:34.Brown, because he is now the leader of the Labour No campaign in

:10:34. > :10:44.Scotland. That is separate of course from the Tory and Labour No campaign

:10:44. > :10:44.

:10:44. > :10:49.led by Alistair Darling. I'm delighted to know... My economic

:10:49. > :10:51.adviser has pointed out that the vast disparity in income levels in

:10:52. > :10:57.the UK under the Labour party are not an efficient way to run an

:10:57. > :11:00.economy. It is part of the official -- the Fiscal Commission has

:11:00. > :11:06.recommended Stelling postindependence. I'm delighted

:11:06. > :11:12.Johann Lamont is going to accept the wisdom of my advisor and the other

:11:12. > :11:16.Nobel laureates on my committee. The purpose of a competitive rate is to

:11:16. > :11:20.set a competitive rates to benefit the Scottish economy and collect

:11:20. > :11:23.corporations -- corporation tax. That is a better position than the

:11:23. > :11:28.position under the Labour Party and no George Osborne, we're corporation

:11:29. > :11:32.tax is not collected. Having a competitive rate is -- that is

:11:33. > :11:35.collected is better than having a rate that is not collected. If

:11:35. > :11:45.Gordon Brown implemented this policy, I don't think Johann Lamont

:11:45. > :11:46.

:11:46. > :11:50.could divorce herself from it. It is good for the economy. If we base our

:11:50. > :11:53.policies on what's best for jobs, investment and growth for the

:11:53. > :12:03.Scottish people, that's where this Government is in office and that is

:12:03. > :12:04.

:12:04. > :12:07.why Johann Lamont's party is sitting over there. To ask the First

:12:07. > :12:14.Minister when he will next meet the Secretary of State for Scotland?

:12:14. > :12:19.plans in the near future. Last year, people were shocked by the baby

:12:19. > :12:24.Ashes scandal. We now know that the issues raised in Edinburgh have

:12:25. > :12:27.spread to Glasgow and Aberdeen. Calls from the increasing number of

:12:27. > :12:37.affected parents for a public enquiry and growing louder. Will the

:12:37. > :12:38.

:12:38. > :12:40.First Minister ordered a full Robert enquiry? -- public enquiry?

:12:40. > :12:44.position is that the enquiry is proceeding and there is coordination

:12:44. > :12:49.across the councils in Scotland. That is an affective way to

:12:50. > :12:53.proceed. The Cabinet Secretary is always prepared to listen to

:12:53. > :12:57.positive suggestions in the matter, but I think the enquiry in Edinburgh

:12:57. > :13:00.is proceeding. There is confidence in the way that it is being

:13:00. > :13:05.conducted. Other councils in Scotland have now responded, and I

:13:05. > :13:08.think they have responded sick -- sympathetically and with

:13:08. > :13:14.understanding of the parents of Scotland. Therefore, I think the

:13:14. > :13:16.issue has been handled in a sensitive manner. If Ruth Davidson

:13:16. > :13:21.wants to bring proposals forward as to why a national public enquiry

:13:21. > :13:26.would actually benefit the parents, the bereaved parents, we will look

:13:26. > :13:30.at that. There is a big argument for effectively proceeding in the know

:13:30. > :13:40.-- in the wheat is being done off in terms of speed and in terms of

:13:40. > :13:40.

:13:40. > :13:43.giving people the answers they want. I do appreciate the steps that have

:13:43. > :13:48.been made on this issue, but those steps are being increasingly

:13:48. > :13:54.overtaken by events. Yes, the Edinburgh enquiry is proceeding, and

:13:54. > :13:56.in particular, there is also the Commission which has no direct

:13:56. > :14:03.representation from the parents themselves, despite them being

:14:03. > :14:07.promised as much. On Friday, it was said that parents would be able to

:14:07. > :14:11.make a written submission until the 19th of July. This week it has

:14:11. > :14:14.emerged that the independent audit of what went on in Aberdeen won't be

:14:14. > :14:20.so -- presented until the 24th of September. That means affected

:14:20. > :14:23.parents in the country will have no voice in this process. I agree that

:14:23. > :14:28.new protections have to be put in place, but parents are asking for an

:14:29. > :14:34.-- actions and what happened to be a child. This commission is not

:14:34. > :14:37.designed for that. To get what everyone in this chamber once, which

:14:37. > :14:47.is justice for the affected families across Scotland, we need a public

:14:47. > :14:48.

:14:48. > :14:54.quietly. Well he reconsider? purpose of the Bonhomie review is to

:14:54. > :14:59.get into place proper procedures. That is the priority. Get in police

:14:59. > :15:04.procedures that should have been in place and haven't been and to

:15:04. > :15:09.correct the decision. I don't think Ruth Davidson is correct in terms of

:15:09. > :15:12.the parental representation on the Bonhomie review. I can give her that

:15:12. > :15:16.information. I think she should be aware of that. But that is not the

:15:16. > :15:21.same thing as the investigation, the one taking place in Edinburgh and

:15:21. > :15:28.may take place else, which is to look at the past and find out what

:15:28. > :15:33.happened. There is a room for what Lord Bonhomie is doing to make sure

:15:33. > :15:38.that procedures are correctly applied. Not to wait for the inquiry

:15:38. > :15:42.to do that. It is clear as to what the correct procedures should be. So

:15:42. > :15:47.get that done. We will look at the arguments in terms of nature of

:15:47. > :15:57.inquiry, but there is an advantage in proceeding as quickly as we are,

:15:57. > :15:58.

:15:58. > :16:03.and meeting I think the concerns of parents and the wider community.

:16:03. > :16:08.constituency si suppliry. -- supplementary. Police staff without

:16:09. > :16:14.qualifications have been taking fingerprints in Dundee and Arbroath.

:16:14. > :16:17.Has the First Minister had reports of this happening anywhere else and

:16:17. > :16:20.can the First Minister reassure people that the review will be

:16:20. > :16:26.conducted as thoroughly as possible as there is a danger hear the

:16:26. > :16:31.evidence could be dismissed in serious cases, because of the breach

:16:31. > :16:35.of protocol? Yes, I can provide that reassurance. The review will be

:16:35. > :16:45.conducted swiftly and any lessons learned will be applied. I hope she

:16:45. > :16:48.

:16:48. > :16:54.will accept that reassurance. and Balfour contractors are bidding

:16:54. > :16:57.to build the new sick kids hospital. They have been up to their necks.

:16:57. > :17:03.Will the First Minister use his influence with these companies to

:17:03. > :17:09.get them to own up to what they have done and agree to pay compensation

:17:09. > :17:14.for ruined lives and careers and does he agree if they don't they

:17:14. > :17:20.should not be awarded contracts from the public sector. I don't know if

:17:21. > :17:25.he is familiar with the points I made at the STUC conference. I was

:17:25. > :17:33.addressing what we believe the government can do in terms of public

:17:33. > :17:38.sector contracts to make sure blacklisted is eliminated. What

:17:38. > :17:43.issues will be discussed at the cabinet. Issues of importance to the

:17:43. > :17:51.people of Scotland. The SNP MSP say they're prepared to back the closure

:17:51. > :17:57.of the local court in return for a new just sis centre for their' --

:17:57. > :18:01.justice Sen ten for their new legal centre. With only 12 days before

:18:01. > :18:07.this Parliament decides their future, can the First Minister tell

:18:07. > :18:15.these back benchers today when and where these new justice centres will

:18:15. > :18:18.be built? The SNP MSPs are making representations on behalf of their

:18:18. > :18:24.constituents. Perhaps if the Liberal Democrats had employed that policy,

:18:24. > :18:30.they would have more constituency members than they do. I expected

:18:30. > :18:35.some sort of exmra nation about -- explanation but nothing was

:18:35. > :18:41.forthcoming. It is ridiculous he does not have worked out plans for

:18:41. > :18:45.this. He can't even give us one single date and one location for

:18:45. > :18:50.these justice centres that his own backbenchers say are going to come.

:18:50. > :18:55.He already has a justice centre in Coupar, but he is planning to close

:18:55. > :19:02.it, to shut it. He already has one. But that is what he does. Last week

:19:02. > :19:05.we heard that more courts could close before any justice centres are

:19:05. > :19:11.built. The Law Society spoke out this week as well. So the clock is

:19:11. > :19:16.ticking, 12 days for SNP members on the Justice Committee to make that

:19:16. > :19:20.decision to back their government, or back their community. 500 years

:19:20. > :19:26.of local service against this Government's cavalier and chaotic

:19:26. > :19:36.approach. Wouldn't it be safer for SNP members to stand up for their

:19:36. > :19:37.

:19:37. > :19:43.communities and reject his court closure? Or look for best way to

:19:43. > :19:46.ensure justice. I know he lives in a world where public expenditure

:19:46. > :19:51.restrictions imposed by his colleagues in Westminster don't

:19:51. > :19:55.exist and he likes to believe that public services in Scotland should

:19:55. > :20:00.be immune from Westminster cuts, but nobody in Scotland doesn't

:20:00. > :20:07.understand the position. That is why the Liberal Democrats used to have a

:20:07. > :20:14.football team in this Parliament and now they have got a subs bench.

:20:14. > :20:18.Question four. To ask the First Minister what he economic value the

:20:19. > :20:28.Scottish Government places on services from Highlands and Islands

:20:28. > :20:30.arts to hub airports -- airports to hub airports. The Highlands and

:20:30. > :20:38.Islandses airports, worldwide connection is essential. The effect

:20:38. > :20:45.of the UK Government's air passenger duty has been demonstrated by

:20:45. > :20:51.Flybe's announcements of sales to slots at Gatwick. They said the

:20:51. > :20:55.ludicrous policy of charging duty on both legs of a flight, it is

:20:55. > :21:03.inevitable that high frequency services will beeesed out. --

:21:03. > :21:08.squeezed out. That is a warning statement and underlines the

:21:08. > :21:15.necessity for duty to be devolved to this Parliament. Does the First

:21:15. > :21:20.Minister review in 2008 -- rule in 2008 the services to Inverness to

:21:20. > :21:25.Heathrow were ended and is it not now important that the protecting

:21:25. > :21:32.the lichgs from Inverness to Gatwick is ever more essential. Of course,

:21:32. > :21:37.these are not my words. These are the words of the local MP, Danny

:21:37. > :21:42.Alexander in 2008. Is it not hypocrisy that the local MP had one

:21:42. > :21:49.opinion in 2008 and has done nothing in government to support air

:21:49. > :21:54.services from Inverness? Well, we should remember in context Danny

:21:54. > :22:02.Alexander is a Liberal Democrat, so adopting two positions at the same

:22:02. > :22:09.time may be part of party policy. But it is for the Secretary of the

:22:09. > :22:12.Treasury and the local member for Inverness to be responsible for the

:22:12. > :22:17.taxation which is driving and threatening services in Inverness

:22:17. > :22:23.and then come playing about it -- complaining about it. Perhaps if we

:22:23. > :22:31.agree on the position of devolving air passenger duty to this

:22:31. > :22:35.Parliament, to have a policy that benefits the Scottish economy and

:22:35. > :22:42.Danny Alexander would be relieved of his difficulty to be the Treasury's

:22:42. > :22:47.man in Inverness, while pretending to be inNess man in the Treasury. --

:22:47. > :22:51.Inverness. Will the First Minister hold talks with the UK government

:22:51. > :22:58.and Flybe and easyJet who have the flights from Inverness, will he look

:22:58. > :23:01.to having a PSO op routes to Gatwick and speak to the airlines about

:23:01. > :23:06.connectivity from the islands through to Gatwick, which used to be

:23:06. > :23:11.booked through one operator and will will require to be booked through

:23:11. > :23:14.two. These talks are ongoing with the Transport Minister and the

:23:14. > :23:21.airports. But the member should direct herself not just to what

:23:21. > :23:26.Flybe have said, but the extent of the studies across the Scottish

:23:26. > :23:30.airports and carriers who are looking at the differential impact

:23:30. > :23:35.the duty is having on Scottish flights. This is the key and source

:23:35. > :23:40.of the difficulty. Therefore I hope that the member will join with the

:23:40. > :23:45.government in calling for it to be devolved to this Parliament to

:23:45. > :23:54.produce a policy which benefits the Scottish economy, as opposed to

:23:54. > :24:02.threatening services. To ask what his response is to audit Scotland's

:24:02. > :24:07.report, managing early departures from the public sector, which says

:24:07. > :24:13.they are spending �280 million a year on early departures. The report

:24:13. > :24:19.notes that savings that have been made by the voluntary service

:24:19. > :24:24.arrangements by the Scottish Government. Under funding pressure

:24:24. > :24:28.it is inevitable that will be reductions, our policy of no

:24:28. > :24:32.compulsory redundancy is the right policy, it treats people with

:24:32. > :24:38.respect, and it gives security to those who remain within the public

:24:38. > :24:43.sector. It is a policy supported by the unions and pursued by this

:24:43. > :24:50.Government and a policy not available elsewhere in these

:24:50. > :24:57.islands. I am not sure if he agrees that audit Scotland is right toite

:24:57. > :25:02.this this. -- criticise this, but he he share concerns in the newly

:25:02. > :25:07.created police Scotland that a pool of money has been given to provide

:25:07. > :25:13.exit packages for senior police officers to reduce their numbers, as

:25:13. > :25:18.it is not heard for senior police officers and other services to take

:25:18. > :25:22.exit packages, only to return on the same or similar capacities. Will the

:25:22. > :25:27.First Minister give the Chale bear combhitment -- chamber a commitment

:25:27. > :25:37.that if and when senior police officers take golden goodbyes they

:25:37. > :25:43.will not then be able to say golden hello, hello to similar jobs.

:25:43. > :25:47.assurance that the services will manage more effective than many

:25:47. > :25:52.Labour authorities did. I don't think he should be allowed to put

:25:52. > :26:00.audit Scotland report in the context he did. On pain four of the report

:26:00. > :26:04.-- page four, early retirement and redundancy can be a useful way of

:26:04. > :26:08.avoiding the cost of compulsory redundancy. They provide significant

:26:08. > :26:12.savings for organisations. So I think the member should reflect on

:26:12. > :26:17.the balance of the report and what it had to say about that. And

:26:17. > :26:22.reflect on the range of cases, a range which I could quote, where the

:26:22. > :26:29.practices and policies of his colleagues have been brought into

:26:29. > :26:34.question. E Thank you. When I asked the cabinet Secretary of finance

:26:34. > :26:40.yesterday why the Scottish Government was spending ten times as

:26:40. > :26:45.much pushing people out of the door, he said the same excuse, that the

:26:45. > :26:51.Government has a policy of no compulsory redundancies and only use

:26:51. > :26:56.compromise agreements in a few cases. Labour's revealed since Alex

:26:56. > :27:01.Salmond came to power the Scottish government has spent �10 million on

:27:01. > :27:08.compulsory redundancies and �45 million on compromise agreements.

:27:08. > :27:13.he knows, we have introduced a compulsory redundancy policy across

:27:13. > :27:20.central Government. The policy, the Labour Party are saying they

:27:20. > :27:25.wouldn't have this? If they are, they had better tell the public

:27:25. > :27:31.sector unions. He should look at the public service in Scotland compared

:27:31. > :27:35.to the rest of the UK, the public service numbers are down less,

:27:35. > :27:41.because of the sensitivity with which he handled it. It right to

:27:41. > :27:48.have no compulsory redundancies as a policy. If he, as the Labour Party

:27:49. > :27:54.spokesman, looking after public sector employees says he will have

:27:54. > :28:04.compulsory redundancy. Then let him say so. Our policy is more in tune

:28:04. > :28:04.

:28:04. > :28:08.with kwha what the Scottish people demands. To ask the First Minister

:28:09. > :28:13.what the Scottish Government's response is to opinions in the

:28:13. > :28:18.briefing paper the funding of higher education. We welcome contributions

:28:18. > :28:25.to the debate and I'm sure she will have noticed the contribution from

:28:25. > :28:30.Universities Scotland. They published legal advice on

:28:30. > :28:34.universities post-independence and it could be per missible to charge

:28:34. > :28:38.students from the rest of the UK tuition. This Government has

:28:38. > :28:41.delivered free education in the face of the nay sayers who said it could

:28:41. > :28:48.not be done. We are confident we will continue to deliver free

:28:48. > :28:54.education in an independent Scotland. I am grateful, in light of

:28:54. > :28:59.the legal advice that has been published today, could the First

:28:59. > :29:04.Minister now confirm which groups of students would not pay fees in an

:29:04. > :29:08.independent Scotland and whether the Scottish Government has received...

:29:08. > :29:11.We are coming to the end of First Minister's questions. A confident

:29:11. > :29:15.ending from the First Minister on university education and confident