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:00:24. > :00:29.Nigel Dodds unexpectedly joined his fellow DUP MP, Sammy Wilson,

:00:30. > :00:33.in announcing he doesn't want to lead the party late this afternoon.

:00:34. > :00:36.Tonight, the man who wants to remain in the role of deputy leader tells

:00:37. > :00:39.us why he continues to believe the party can't be led from Westminster,

:00:40. > :00:42.and why he thinks the current Finance Minister, Arlene Foster,

:00:43. > :00:46.is the person to take the DUP forward.

:00:47. > :00:50.It seemed a done deal, the DUP leadership was heading

:00:51. > :00:58.for a job share, but now it's looking like a one woman show.

:00:59. > :01:06.It would be wrong to try to lead the party from Westminster because I

:01:07. > :01:10.wouldn't be able to give the parties are full-time focus it requires.

:01:11. > :01:12.In the chamber there was some feistiness as the

:01:13. > :01:15.Deputy First Minister responded to the final double-jobbing MLA.

:01:16. > :01:23.Over the course of the next summer, we have a big decision to make over

:01:24. > :01:28.his future, whether or not he will remain in this house or go to

:01:29. > :01:32.another place. I hope he continues to remain in this house and

:01:33. > :01:33.continues to enjoy sharing power with Sinn Fein.

:01:34. > :01:35.And here with his thoughts on today's big surprise development

:01:36. > :01:45.So, the man tipped to be crowned the third leader of the

:01:46. > :01:46.Democratic Unionist Party has surprised just about everyone by

:01:47. > :01:52.Nigel Dodds caught everyone out this afternoon when he told the media

:01:53. > :01:56.that he no longer wished to be considered for the party leadership.

:01:57. > :01:59.And he went even further by giving his full endorsement to

:02:00. > :02:02.Arlene Foster, who could now become DUP leader and First Minister.

:02:03. > :02:12.Mr Dodds, has been speaking to our political correspondent Chris Page.

:02:13. > :02:21.As many of you know, I have previously been on record as saying

:02:22. > :02:26.both publicly and to senior colleagues that I didn't believe

:02:27. > :02:31.that a modern Northern Ireland party in the context of devolution now

:02:32. > :02:37.firmly established could be led properly and fully from Westminster.

:02:38. > :02:41.I have stated that publicly, I've talked to senior colleagues about

:02:42. > :02:45.that. Given the level of expressions of support over the last

:02:46. > :02:49.couple of weeks, I have further reflected on the matter, I have

:02:50. > :02:54.taken counsel, I have prayed about it, I've spoken to colleagues. I am

:02:55. > :03:00.firmly of the view and I have concluded it would be wrong to try

:03:01. > :03:06.to lead the party from Westminster because I wouldn't be able to give

:03:07. > :03:11.the road the full-time focus and time it requires and still carry out

:03:12. > :03:14.my responsibilities at Westminster as Parliamentary leader, especially

:03:15. > :03:20.in the context where there are so many opportunities for unionism, for

:03:21. > :03:25.Northern Ireland in a House of Commons where we have a government

:03:26. > :03:29.majority which is so small. And I intend to carry out that role at

:03:30. > :03:32.Westminster serving my constituents, serving the party in Northern

:03:33. > :03:37.Ireland to the very best of my ability. I'm also very conscious

:03:38. > :03:44.that Diane, my wife, is fully committed as MEP for Northern

:03:45. > :03:47.Ireland. And it would be wrong for me to put personal standing above

:03:48. > :03:52.what I believe is in the best interest of the party and the people

:03:53. > :04:00.we serve. So, I believe the best way forward is to back Arlene Foster as

:04:01. > :04:04.leader of our party, going forward, in the Assembly. She has served as

:04:05. > :04:09.acting First Minister and demonstrated leadership credentials

:04:10. > :04:14.of the highest order here in the Assembly, where I believe a leader

:04:15. > :04:18.of the party needs to be. And I intend to work alongside her as

:04:19. > :04:22.deputy leader, as Parliamentary leader, as part of a strong team of

:04:23. > :04:27.committed DUP representatives at every level, and that is in the best

:04:28. > :04:34.interest of unionism and Northern Ireland. If any politician needing

:04:35. > :04:41.their party, you have been involved in so many years, how difficult was

:04:42. > :04:48.this for you? All things being equal and natural, I would have considered

:04:49. > :04:56.it a great honour. I consider the positions I need at the moment a

:04:57. > :05:00.privilege. I have held the position for a long time and my personal

:05:01. > :05:04.integrity demands that I continued to weigh these things, and what is

:05:05. > :05:09.not in my best interest but in the best interest of the party and the

:05:10. > :05:14.country. And I honestly believe that in the modern political setup of

:05:15. > :05:19.Northern Ireland, of a devolved government the leader of the party

:05:20. > :05:24.needs to be in Belfast. And if I was still in the Assembly, I would have

:05:25. > :05:32.no hesitation whatsoever. At I am not, and circumstances acted I am in

:05:33. > :05:35.Westminster. I continue to do that working Westminster in partnership

:05:36. > :05:40.with the new leader. And I will take the party forward in that way, and I

:05:41. > :05:45.believe that is in keeping with my integrity, and in keeping with the

:05:46. > :05:48.best interests of the party. In a Democratic party, people are

:05:49. > :05:52.perfectly entitled and open to putting their candidates forward,

:05:53. > :05:58.and we will wait to see what happens. I believe firmly that

:05:59. > :06:03.Arlene Foster is clearly the person who should take the party forward,

:06:04. > :06:08.someone who is already active as First Minister in the Assembly on

:06:09. > :06:16.two occasions. I believe her working with me and the rest of the team in

:06:17. > :06:17.the Assembly will provide the very, very positive future for Northern

:06:18. > :06:19.Ireland, for unionism. Nigel Dodds talking to journalists,

:06:20. > :06:21.among them our own Chris Page, Rick Wilford and I were discussing

:06:22. > :06:26.Peter Robinson's successor on last Tuesday's Stormont Today

:06:27. > :06:29.and we did make the point that while everyone was assuming

:06:30. > :06:31.Nigel Dodds would be crowned the new leader, he hadn't actually

:06:32. > :06:34.confirmed he wanted the job. How much of a shock

:06:35. > :06:44.is this announcement? I think it is a huge shock because I

:06:45. > :06:49.was at the party conference two weeks ago. It was almost like a

:06:50. > :06:56.public an ointment in front of the party faithful praising Nigel and

:06:57. > :07:03.Arlene Foster, pointing at Nigel as the next leader. I talked to the DUP

:07:04. > :07:09.press office and they all said this was going to be the next leader and

:07:10. > :07:12.First Minister. There were no doubts, no equivocation, no

:07:13. > :07:17.ambiguity, this was the package. It is pretty clear from what he had to

:07:18. > :07:21.say, he is backing Arlene Foster to take over, and for him to remain as

:07:22. > :07:25.deputy leader. It's interesting because it almost makes it sound as

:07:26. > :07:29.though there is some deal done already. He says I will continue as

:07:30. > :07:35.deputy leader. I don't know whether or not there will be an election or

:07:36. > :07:39.if there is a gift on behalf of the leader but he understands that

:07:40. > :07:43.whatever happens he will remain deputy leader of the party, he will

:07:44. > :07:50.continue doing that happily to serve Arlene Foster. Do you think that she

:07:51. > :07:57.would want to be First Minister's and leader of the DUP? My ritual

:07:58. > :08:00.thought about this, going back to 2013, my understanding was the party

:08:01. > :08:09.itself had made a decision that would make things easier if the

:08:10. > :08:13.roles were split so none of us were surprised that this package deal so

:08:14. > :08:16.it seems odd that Arlene Foster seems to be taking both positions.

:08:17. > :08:24.It may be something to do with the fact the election the six months

:08:25. > :08:29.away, the Assembly will be broken up middle of March. So that will give

:08:30. > :08:33.her time to lead the election campaign. So that might be more

:08:34. > :08:39.useful to allow her to do both roles in a very key election. It does look

:08:40. > :08:43.like the job was sitting there on a plate for Nigel Dodds. Can you think

:08:44. > :08:47.of another situation where a politician had the leadership of a

:08:48. > :08:54.party sitting there, if you're she wanted it, and walked away? I can't.

:08:55. > :08:57.Back in 2008 when Peter Robinson took over from Ian Paisley, some of

:08:58. > :09:05.us thought that might be a moment for a contest in the party. This was

:09:06. > :09:09.handed to Nigel. For some reason, and we may never know, for some

:09:10. > :09:15.reason he has decided he doesn't want it. I think oddly enough that

:09:16. > :09:18.will spook a lot of people. Until yesterday, that was their dream

:09:19. > :09:22.ticket, that was the couple who were going to keep the DUP on the road

:09:23. > :09:26.and give them an election victory. Here's the thing I don't understand.

:09:27. > :09:30.He said in that interview he would have no hesitation whatsoever in

:09:31. > :09:34.putting his name forward if he was an MLA but he believes the party

:09:35. > :09:38.needs to be led from Westminster. If you wanted to lead the party, he

:09:39. > :09:44.could be an MLA by mid-January, they would find a way of doing it. There

:09:45. > :09:47.is a pretty safe seat coming up in East Belfast. It could be done. It

:09:48. > :09:56.could be done in his own constituency. OK, it would force a

:09:57. > :10:02.by-election. If he had wanted it, it could have been done. They would

:10:03. > :10:09.have made it happen. I don't believe the party said no. We don't know

:10:10. > :10:12.what has happened. Very quickly, Sammy Wilson said he was ruling

:10:13. > :10:19.himself out and backing Nigel Dodds. Nigel Dodds has ruled himself out,

:10:20. > :10:22.does Sammy come back into the frame? It's interesting Sammy doesn't

:10:23. > :10:29.appear to have a conversation with Nigel, or if you did Nigel didn't

:10:30. > :10:32.tell. So, conspiracy theorists Sammy was out of the picture before he

:10:33. > :10:37.moved himself aside. Fascinating stuff. Plenty to talk about. Thank

:10:38. > :10:40.you very much and we will speak to you later.

:10:41. > :10:42.So the big talking point of the day was very much outside

:10:43. > :10:45.the Assembly chamber, but that didn't stop some robust conversation

:10:46. > :10:48.The Deputy First Minister faced questions and, when asked by

:10:49. > :10:51.Gregory Campbell to clarify his own role in the Troubles, he was

:10:52. > :11:04.During the talks process, good process was made on the things on

:11:05. > :11:10.the past. And a number of key issues to which we were working. This was

:11:11. > :11:14.unfortunate but it is recognised that this is not an issue on which

:11:15. > :11:19.there can be a half-hearted agreement for the sake of

:11:20. > :11:23.expediency. The fresh start agreement commits the British and

:11:24. > :11:26.Irish governments to reflect on options for resolving the legacy

:11:27. > :11:31.issues, building therefore on the sound basis that already exists

:11:32. > :11:47.through our discussions. Thank you. The Deputy First Minister

:11:48. > :11:53.refers to good progress. That is true. Does he not agree that are to

:11:54. > :11:57.progress would be made for example if you tried to shore up whatever

:11:58. > :12:05.credibility he has in terms of his past, for example of -- in a number

:12:06. > :12:09.of occasions I've alluded to his possession of a submachinegun as

:12:10. > :12:13.contained in the saddle report. His involvement, if he had any in the

:12:14. > :12:20.two policeman shot three days before Bloody Sunday. And the murder of a

:12:21. > :12:26.prison officer. They all happened when the Deputy First Minister was

:12:27. > :12:29.the two IC of the provisional IRA, yet he denied knowledge or

:12:30. > :12:35.involvement in any of them. Where does his credibility stand? Well, I

:12:36. > :12:41.never imagined for one minute that the fresh start would extend to the

:12:42. > :12:50.member who has just spoken. Not for one minute. And the member is often

:12:51. > :12:56.in this chamber prepared to quote all sorts of falsehoods and innuendo

:12:57. > :13:01.about my past. The reality is in relation to these saddle report,

:13:02. > :13:06.which I am glad he mentioned, the most significant ruling made by Lord

:13:07. > :13:12.Southall was that he believed the IRA's evidence. I went forward as a

:13:13. > :13:16.member of the IRA. My evidence was believed by Lord Southall and the

:13:17. > :13:21.evidence of the paratroopers and the British Army was rejected. So it

:13:22. > :13:25.isn't a great issue for the member to raise in this house, particularly

:13:26. > :13:31.as someone who comes from the city of airy. So I think from my

:13:32. > :13:36.perspective, I look at all of this on the basis that over the course of

:13:37. > :13:40.the next month, the member will have a big decision to make over his

:13:41. > :13:44.future, whether or not he will remain in this house or go to

:13:45. > :13:49.another place. I hope he continues to remain in this house and

:13:50. > :13:54.continues to enjoy sharing power with Sinn Fein. Does he agree that

:13:55. > :13:58.the blanket of national security that the British government wrapped

:13:59. > :14:04.itself in the talks was a further example of their resistance to the

:14:05. > :14:11.truth? And truth telling on their terms only? Would he also agree the

:14:12. > :14:15.evidence of many years is that republican and loyalist

:14:16. > :14:21.organisations do exactly the same. Resist the truth and will only tell

:14:22. > :14:26.the truth on their terms. The big test, I would suggest to the member

:14:27. > :14:34.of West Belfast, is to establish the structures and mechanisms that we

:14:35. > :14:39.agreed. At least a considerable amount of agreement on. That will be

:14:40. > :14:43.the test as to whether or not people are willing to come forward and

:14:44. > :14:48.contribute. My willingness on behalf of being asked by the Bloody Sunday

:14:49. > :14:52.families to come forward as a member of the IRA to talk about the

:14:53. > :14:57.situation in relation to Bloody Sunday, I think that is a very clear

:14:58. > :14:59.indicator of where I am, informed in relation to it. I've done it, I've

:15:00. > :15:01.been there, I have worn the T-shirt. Martin McGuinness underlining

:15:02. > :15:03.what he says is his commitment Long before anyone knew she might

:15:04. > :15:08.well get a free run at the DUP leadership, Arlene Foster was

:15:09. > :15:10.a busy woman in the chamber. The Finance Minister, for a short

:15:11. > :15:13.time longer, at least, was seeking support to extend Westminster's

:15:14. > :15:16.Enterprise Bill to Northern Ireland. However, the Assembly voted not to

:15:17. > :15:18.adopt the legislation, which would have put an end to six

:15:19. > :15:30.figure public sector exit payments. The matter before us today poses a

:15:31. > :15:34.relatively straightforward choice. How much do we wish to spend on

:15:35. > :15:39.existing public servants, and how much do we want to spend on

:15:40. > :15:42.providing public services? While exit payments must be reasonable and

:15:43. > :15:47.fair to public servants, we have to be mindful these costs are met by

:15:48. > :15:50.employers, and impact on what can be spent on the delivery of services.

:15:51. > :15:55.It should be noted at the outset the restriction being proposed will not

:15:56. > :16:00.affect any pension which an individual has already accrued, and

:16:01. > :16:04.paid for by member contributions. What is proposed as a cap on any

:16:05. > :16:09.additional funding paid for by the employer as part of an exit

:16:10. > :16:13.package. In relation to concerns raised over specific circumstances

:16:14. > :16:18.when the cap would impact on lower or moderately paid a big sector

:16:19. > :16:22.workers, the department made no promises. When pressed on this

:16:23. > :16:27.issue, the officials commented there was scope for the Department or

:16:28. > :16:31.employing authority to grant flexibilities and waivers in certain

:16:32. > :16:35.circumstances. The officials did not give members and assurance is such a

:16:36. > :16:39.waiver would be applied in the case of a specific example which was

:16:40. > :16:46.cited by members of a 55-year-old female public sector worker with 35

:16:47. > :16:56.years service earning ?27,000 who could be impacted by cap of ?95,000.

:16:57. > :17:02.It should not be used to bring forward such controversial changes,

:17:03. > :17:10.and that it does deny the Falls scrutiny of this Assembly to a

:17:11. > :17:13.matter which is of huge public importance and impacts on the lives

:17:14. > :17:20.of many people here in Northern Ireland. A major concern for many is

:17:21. > :17:24.that full details of guidelines on the flexibility to relax the exit

:17:25. > :17:32.payment cap will not be issued by the department until after the LMC

:17:33. > :17:35.has been agreed. It must be done in such a way the consequences have all

:17:36. > :17:42.been considered in advance. The current situation is that this has

:17:43. > :17:46.not happened, and there was haste, and the commission isn't satisfied

:17:47. > :17:48.sufficient time has been afforded to scrutinise Asian fully.

:17:49. > :17:50.Leslie Cree, and the Finance Minister was also

:17:51. > :17:52.on her feet discussing financial help for businesses affected

:17:53. > :17:54.by recent flooding during today's Question Time.

:17:55. > :17:57.Arlene Foster also said she hopes to have a budget for the next financial

:17:58. > :18:01.She was giving her response to the Chancellor's recent

:18:02. > :18:13.After the compounds of Spending Review announcement on 25th of

:18:14. > :18:21.November, we have a clear picture in in terms of the block grant. I've

:18:22. > :18:25.indicated 5% reduction in real terms and a growth especially towards the

:18:26. > :18:30.latter end in terms of capital spending. Therefore, we are now

:18:31. > :18:34.going to engage with all the individual departments. I envisage

:18:35. > :18:37.there will be rounds of budget by laterals between myself and

:18:38. > :18:43.ministerial colleagues before Christmas, and we will bring forward

:18:44. > :18:48.a budget to the Executive. I realise we're not going to have time to have

:18:49. > :18:54.usual draft budget consultation period. I have tasked officials to

:18:55. > :18:58.speak with individual stakeholders and, indeed, groups of stakeholders

:18:59. > :19:04.to discuss the way forward with them once budget, the draft budget comes

:19:05. > :19:11.before ministerial bilaterals have finished. It is hoped we have a

:19:12. > :19:20.budget in place for the end of January of next year. Although the

:19:21. > :19:25.Spending Review was perhaps better, particularly in relation to capital,

:19:26. > :19:28.than some people anticipated, there will be difficulties for

:19:29. > :19:33.departments, particularly if we ring-fenced spending in relation to

:19:34. > :19:38.health, because health, of course, is that big part of the budget here

:19:39. > :19:44.in Northern Ireland. And, therefore, colleagues will have to look at

:19:45. > :19:47.efficiency savings again for the year 1617. And we are only setting a

:19:48. > :19:51.one-year budget at this stage because we feel it would be wrong to

:19:52. > :19:57.tie the hands of the new mandate after May of next year. They will

:19:58. > :20:03.want to set their own priorities after that. I asked the Prime

:20:04. > :20:07.Minister, given the tax credits, what discussions will have taken

:20:08. > :20:12.place at executive level to reach consensus at what is done with this

:20:13. > :20:17.money set aside for the needs of the most vulnerable in the society.

:20:18. > :20:22.Absolutely. And we all welcome the fact that the Chancellor moved away

:20:23. > :20:27.from his plans in relation to tax credits. It was always very

:20:28. > :20:32.difficult to understand how you could say you wanted to encourage

:20:33. > :20:36.people into work, and then to actually undermine that argument by

:20:37. > :20:41.taking away tax credits, which were there to help them get into work. So

:20:42. > :20:45.it was to me a very sensible decision. We set aside a pot of

:20:46. > :20:50.money to deal with the consequences of the cut in tax credits under the

:20:51. > :20:54.fresh start agreement. We will now have to at an executive level have

:20:55. > :20:59.those discussions, spread over four years, so we have some time to

:21:00. > :21:02.decide. The profile of that money is 60 million each year so we can

:21:03. > :21:07.decide whatever we want to do in relation to the money, and how best

:21:08. > :21:10.we can help vulnerable people over that period of time, and I look

:21:11. > :21:16.forward to those discussions in the coming weeks and months. Can I

:21:17. > :21:22.sympathise with many of my constituents who have suffered

:21:23. > :21:29.previously under the storm Desmond. I asked the minister if any business

:21:30. > :21:37.in particular may apply for rebate? In terms of the rebate? It is

:21:38. > :21:45.difficult to say whether they will qualify for rates rebate. I was

:21:46. > :21:52.thinking when I heard... This is the fourth storm, it is the first male

:21:53. > :21:53.storm, seems to have made more damage than the three females

:21:54. > :21:55.altogether. Arlene Foster, tongue in her cheek,

:21:56. > :21:57.I assume. If you're a student living

:21:58. > :22:00.in a house with others or a landlord renting out a property,

:22:01. > :22:02.the Houses in Multiple Occupation Its aim is to enable better

:22:03. > :22:06.regulation of houses with a large number

:22:07. > :22:16.of residents by doing three things. Firstly, streamlining the definition

:22:17. > :22:20.of what an HMO is. Secondly, introducing licensing to promote

:22:21. > :22:25.effective housing management. Landlords will be required to have a

:22:26. > :22:35.licence before the HMO comes into existence. To apply for a licence,

:22:36. > :22:40.the landlords fit this to let HMO established, and a safety check of

:22:41. > :22:44.the home computed. Thirdly, the bill will clarify existing law and may

:22:45. > :22:50.currently Galatia and enforcement more effective. The proposed system

:22:51. > :22:55.will mean that a person is acting illegally of they are not licensed

:22:56. > :22:58.operate a property as a house of multiple occupation. This is a

:22:59. > :23:06.fundamental change to the existing system. While the committee welcomes

:23:07. > :23:10.the principles of the bill, we've sought to ensure it will deliver a

:23:11. > :23:15.new, more robust system of regulation for houses of multiple

:23:16. > :23:23.occupation. HMOs are important in the housing mix in the North and the

:23:24. > :23:31.housing crisis, they are important for people who cannot rent. Often it

:23:32. > :23:34.is important to provide further regulation to better protect

:23:35. > :23:39.communities and indeed the talents within houses of multiple

:23:40. > :23:42.occupation, it is also important not to use the sledgehammer approach

:23:43. > :23:46.because we are living in a society where more and more people because

:23:47. > :23:48.of high rents are having to share accommodation. There has to be a

:23:49. > :24:02.common-sense approach. In terms of taking this forward, how

:24:03. > :24:07.we going to identify the under registration that presently exists,

:24:08. > :24:12.even in terms of landlord registration, there are landlords

:24:13. > :24:16.out there whether or not they are in terms of homes of multiple

:24:17. > :24:24.occupation, they should also be registered in terms of being

:24:25. > :24:28.landlords and can avoid duplication if you register for multiple

:24:29. > :24:32.occupation would you automatically register as a landlord could we try

:24:33. > :24:38.and minimise the level of bureaucracy that exists an insurer

:24:39. > :24:42.that we capture all relevant information as an efficient

:24:43. > :24:47.mechanism as possible. I am also concerned that we get the balance

:24:48. > :24:52.right between the ability to carry out enforcement with regards to

:24:53. > :24:56.landlords who require that to be done and we also need to mark the

:24:57. > :25:01.fact that there are many landlords who go above and beyond that which

:25:02. > :25:03.they need to do in order to provide accommodation for those living in

:25:04. > :25:04.this type of accommodation. And that bill passed

:25:05. > :25:07.its second stage on an oral vote. The North-South Ministerial Council

:25:08. > :25:09.is back in full swing and today's report

:25:10. > :25:11.from the cross-border body focused on the snappily titled Aquaculture

:25:12. > :25:13.and Marine Sectoral Format. As the questions to the

:25:14. > :25:29.Agriculture Minister show, The Ulster aquaculture is playing an

:25:30. > :25:35.increasingly important role in our agri- foods industry and it is very

:25:36. > :25:40.weather dependent. In terms of... Can you give us an update into

:25:41. > :25:47.research that has been done on it becoming more weather resistant and

:25:48. > :25:50.there was what to cold and moderately warm in some cases. This

:25:51. > :25:57.industry is very dependent on this or that last year were stock was

:25:58. > :26:01.lost due to weather conditions. I am delighted that we are progressing

:26:02. > :26:05.this conversation on an all Ireland basis and we will have our

:26:06. > :26:14.conference happening in 2016 which will give an opportunity for

:26:15. > :26:18.agencies to come together and bring international experts in relation to

:26:19. > :26:22.this and work together to have a sustainable fishery. That conference

:26:23. > :26:27.will be hugely significant in terms of supporting the industry and

:26:28. > :26:32.identifying other areas of research and other supports we need to have

:26:33. > :26:38.in place to help that industry to be diverse and sustainable. Back to

:26:39. > :26:42.point number 7, Mr McCarthy focused on something else, you are met and

:26:43. > :26:47.acknowledge that salmon poaching involves a large number of

:26:48. > :26:52.individuals and remains a challenge, can I ask what steps she is taking

:26:53. > :27:01.to eradicate poaching salmon in Northern Ireland? It is exactly as I

:27:02. > :27:03.just said, we have a multi-agency approach and we are working with the

:27:04. > :27:07.number of agencies including the PSNI to see how we can eradicate

:27:08. > :27:16.this. It is a crime. It involves the responsibility of policing. I think

:27:17. > :27:22.that we have to keep continuing in that vein with that collective

:27:23. > :27:25.effort. That is the only way we are going to be able to drive out what

:27:26. > :27:26.activity. And Alex Kane is here

:27:27. > :27:30.for a final word. The Upper Bann DUP MLA Stephen

:27:31. > :27:43.Moutray has announced he's standing Not a huge price for a. Carla

:27:44. > :27:49.Lockhart but with 50% in the selection process. Three candidates,

:27:50. > :27:53.he had to lose one of them. Stephen has paid that easy for them. He has

:27:54. > :27:59.got them out of what could have been a difficult problem.

:28:00. > :28:02.And we heard today that while Gallaher's was going up

:28:03. > :28:03.in smoke, another couple of Northern Ireland politicians

:28:04. > :28:18.I am not surprised. That goes with the territory. Elected get invited

:28:19. > :28:23.to events like that. I would not have made such a fuss, so maybe

:28:24. > :28:26.they're talking about it. I would have confess, this goes with the

:28:27. > :28:31.territory, it was a great match, we enjoyed it and we did have serious

:28:32. > :28:35.discussions before and after and we will continue to have those

:28:36. > :28:41.discussions. Do not pretend that you're sitting at a match, ?1600 a

:28:42. > :28:44.ticket and having a conversation about workplace problems in the

:28:45. > :28:46.factory 400 miles away. That is silly.

:28:47. > :28:51.Join me again at the same time tomorrow, that's 23:15