:00:27. > :00:31.As the talks continued, the prospect of a new agreement
:00:32. > :00:34.between the parties has been hanging in the air again today.
:00:35. > :00:37.But as we've found in previous days, despite the expectations running
:00:38. > :00:39.high, there's precious little by way of detail in the public domain.
:00:40. > :00:43.Martin McGuinness tells MLAs that the IRA Army Council has no
:00:44. > :00:55.I don't ever recall on one occasion anybody questioning any decision
:00:56. > :01:01.that was made to the course of those eight years as having been subject
:01:02. > :01:03.to a group of people in a smoke-filled room.
:01:04. > :01:06.The Justice Minister comes in for some harsh criticism after
:01:07. > :01:23.Unsafe, unstable, dangerous. It could not be any more damning. What
:01:24. > :01:27.does it take for a minister in this house to take responsibility and
:01:28. > :01:30.resign for systematic and catastrophic failure?
:01:31. > :01:32.And with me in the studio to share her thoughts
:01:33. > :01:38.on today's developments is the Irish News journalist, Allison Morris.
:01:39. > :01:42.Is a political deal likely to be done this week at Stormont?
:01:43. > :01:44.That's the question we've been asking
:01:45. > :01:48.for a while now, and if we take on board the views of the Secretary
:01:49. > :01:50.of State and the Taoiseach, things certainly look like they're
:01:51. > :01:54.Both are now on the record as saying they're hopeful there'll
:01:55. > :01:58.Enda Kenny met David Cameron earlier today in Downing Street
:01:59. > :02:11.We discussed the question of Northern Ireland and the issues that
:02:12. > :02:16.are there. These discussions have been going on for quite some time.
:02:17. > :02:21.They have been discussing various points over the last of weeks and I
:02:22. > :02:27.would be hopeful that having had briefings from the Minister for
:02:28. > :02:30.foreign affairs that there might -- they might be concluded this week.
:02:31. > :02:35.The Taoiseach, Enda Kenny, seems hopeful that a deal can be reached
:02:36. > :02:41.before the weekend, but it's not signed, sealed and delivered yet.
:02:42. > :02:45.It isn't and we have heard these noises before in previous rounds of
:02:46. > :02:51.talks and they have ended in failure. There has not been a lot of
:02:52. > :03:02.detail coming out. There has been a lot of talk of people being hopeful
:03:03. > :03:05.and talks being constructive. The politicians have gone very quiet and
:03:06. > :03:15.we are all suspicious about what's going on behind closed doors. We are
:03:16. > :03:18.in the third week now. It will be interesting to see whether they can
:03:19. > :03:25.manage it to the end of the week. I think it will be the start of next
:03:26. > :03:27.week before we hear anything. The Secretary of State said last
:03:28. > :03:32.Thursday interview was in her view possible but she will wouldn't go as
:03:33. > :03:36.far as to save the -- probable. She has seen how these things can fall
:03:37. > :03:41.down at the last minute. We know what the hurdles are. There are
:03:42. > :03:47.several other issues in relation to moving things forward and progress
:03:48. > :03:53.and in the past we have been unable to reach an agreement. But because
:03:54. > :03:59.things came to such a head over the deaths of Jack Davidson, all parties
:04:00. > :04:06.know something has to be done. The STL P leaders said earlier today
:04:07. > :04:10.there are still gaps bit -- before the deal can be struck. Is this
:04:11. > :04:15.looking more like a deal that will necessarily involve all five
:04:16. > :04:19.parties? It is almost certain it will be a deal that will have to get
:04:20. > :04:30.the agreement of the two main parties. The other parties are going
:04:31. > :04:36.to have to like it or lump it. The past have risen between the DUP on
:04:37. > :04:41.Sinn Fein so those problems have to be solved. Do you think it makes a
:04:42. > :04:45.big difference in terms of the stickability of the deal if for
:04:46. > :04:52.example the Ulster Unionists at left outside. There talking about some
:04:53. > :04:58.sort of change to how the assembly is set up. They will be happy enough
:04:59. > :05:05.if they could have a change. That is one of the things being discussed.
:05:06. > :05:08.At this point in time I think the British and the governments are
:05:09. > :05:15.trying to get a deal between Sinn Fein and the DUP. So what we're
:05:16. > :05:19.looking at potentially is a deal between those two big parties rather
:05:20. > :05:24.than a storm in the steel between the five parties? Exactly and I
:05:25. > :05:31.think it will create some animosity with the smaller parties but it
:05:32. > :05:36.means we can retain the assembly and we are going into an election next
:05:37. > :05:40.year anyway so the public needs some sort of change in the assembly then.
:05:41. > :05:42.At the moment they are just trying to save the institutions.
:05:43. > :05:45.In the Assembly, business carried on as usual and
:05:46. > :05:48.the Office of the First and Deputy First Ministers faced questions.
:05:49. > :05:51.Martin McGuinness was on duty with a little help from the Junior
:05:52. > :05:53.Minister, Jennifer McCann, and they were asked about subjects as diverse
:05:54. > :05:56.as the IRA Army Council's influence, the controversial prospect of a
:05:57. > :05:59.victims' pension and cheering on the Northern Ireland football team.
:06:00. > :06:05.The first question came from David McNarry.
:06:06. > :06:14.I wonder would he have time to confirm that the IRA Army Council
:06:15. > :06:27.are also consulting routinely in decision taken by his office. I
:06:28. > :06:29.think in the course of my duties as Deputy First Minister over the
:06:30. > :06:36.course of the last eight years, working with both Reverend Ian
:06:37. > :06:42.Paisley and Peter Robinson in their capacities as First Minister 's and
:06:43. > :06:45.working with Sinn Fein ministers and the executives, I don't ever recall
:06:46. > :06:48.on one occasion anybody questioning any decision that was made during
:06:49. > :06:56.the course of those eight years as having been subject to a group of
:06:57. > :07:02.people in a smoke-filled room. I really don't think the question is
:07:03. > :07:08.appropriate but in the context of the discussions we are presently
:07:09. > :07:12.involved in all of us recognise that is the of work to be done
:07:13. > :07:17.collectively by the executive and by every member of this house in
:07:18. > :07:22.standing together against those who would try to take us back to the
:07:23. > :07:28.past. I think in the course of the last eight years the records of the
:07:29. > :07:32.five Sinn Fein ministers in the executive are beyond question. I
:07:33. > :07:37.think quite clearly as we move forward hopefully to an agreement in
:07:38. > :07:43.the course of the coming days that we can devise a strategy which has
:07:44. > :07:49.all of us singing from the same hymn sheet. I make it absolutely clear to
:07:50. > :07:54.anybody out there who believes violence represents the way forward
:07:55. > :08:00.for all of us, we say no. Whatever the arrangements for his colleagues,
:08:01. > :08:04.when it comes to the Deputy First Minister is it simply a matter of
:08:05. > :08:10.looking in the mirror when he is taking directions from the IRA Army
:08:11. > :08:16.Council? I don't think that's an appropriate question. It obviously
:08:17. > :08:19.comes from someone who has been hell-bent since coming into this
:08:20. > :08:25.house to try and undermine the processes within this house. Our
:08:26. > :08:33.department continues to continue proposals for injured victims in the
:08:34. > :08:36.injection with the victims service. Research is ongoing into various
:08:37. > :08:42.such as legislative requirements to allow the scheme to in a way which
:08:43. > :08:44.benefits all victims and survivors. The Stormont House Agreement has
:08:45. > :08:49.agreed further work will be undertaken to seek an acceptable way
:08:50. > :08:52.forward on the proposals. As a result of this our department is
:08:53. > :08:56.looking at attracting a document to seek opinion on various aspects of
:08:57. > :09:01.the pension proposals. The truffle Bies omitted to the Stormont house
:09:02. > :09:05.for consideration later this month. We want to ensure victims and
:09:06. > :09:12.survivors receive the best services possible. In view of the refusal of
:09:13. > :09:15.nationalist members to support a motion congratulating the Northern
:09:16. > :09:24.Ireland foot hole team in qualifying for the European Championship 2016,
:09:25. > :09:30.what is -- what are you doing to promote good relations within sport?
:09:31. > :09:35.I do believe that a single team would be more effective both in
:09:36. > :09:39.Europe and in qualifying for the World Cup but that said, I do
:09:40. > :09:46.applaud their achievements. I have never been reluctant as has the
:09:47. > :09:50.Minister for culture and leisure in congratulating teams from the North
:09:51. > :09:52.love and well. I think it is something for all of us to be proud
:09:53. > :09:53.of. The Deputy First Minister
:09:54. > :09:55.on the recent success of The 'most dangerous' prison
:09:56. > :09:59.in the UK. That was how Maghaberry Prison was
:10:00. > :10:01.described in last week's report by Her Majesty's Chief Inspector
:10:02. > :10:04.of Prisons in England and Wales. Today, the Justice Minister,
:10:05. > :10:06.David Ford, responded to He reiterated that he doesn't intend
:10:07. > :10:10.to resign and told MLAs that the Prison Service has taken 'swift
:10:11. > :10:23.and decisive action' to make Immediately upon receiving the
:10:24. > :10:30.feedback from the inspection prison servers management with support from
:10:31. > :10:33.me took steps to remove the governor and deputy governor from their posts
:10:34. > :10:38.and to replace them with a new senior team. While I do believe it's
:10:39. > :10:43.appropriate go further into what ongoing matters, I will say that
:10:44. > :10:50.neither the two person I removed was redeployed within the plate --
:10:51. > :10:53.prison service. I rise as someone in this assembly will fully supports
:10:54. > :11:00.the reform programme which the Minister has quite properly directed
:11:01. > :11:06.but I also rise with serious disappointment arising out of this
:11:07. > :11:11.report. It is a damning report as the chair has rightly said and I'm
:11:12. > :11:16.sure the Minister would agree. Central to this, in my view, is the
:11:17. > :11:22.failure in terms of industrial relations within the prison. He
:11:23. > :11:26.referred to an external recruitment programme. Does the Minister believe
:11:27. > :11:29.the salaries and terms and conditions of young prison of the
:11:30. > :11:39.adequate to retain and recruit prison officers to a standard that
:11:40. > :11:43.are needed? Mr Swann makes a reasonable point. There have been
:11:44. > :11:47.changes made in the terms and conditions of newly appointed
:11:48. > :11:53.officers recently and my understanding is at this stage the
:11:54. > :11:58.current scheme for appointing up to a hundred prison officers, we have
:11:59. > :12:02.already something in excess of 1000 applications so it would suggest
:12:03. > :12:08.that the terms and conditions which are being offered mixed them
:12:09. > :12:12.acceptable to those who would can see -- consider careers in the
:12:13. > :12:16.prison service. Would the Minister accept that the failure to implement
:12:17. > :12:23.the recommendations of the review team specific to Maghaberry Prison
:12:24. > :12:31.led to this report? And not sure it is reasonable to say the failure to
:12:32. > :12:36.implement the recommendations, the recommendations are wide ranging and
:12:37. > :12:41.far-reaching. What we saw in the expections report was a failure in
:12:42. > :12:46.Maghaberry Prison at the time. Some very significant failings which led
:12:47. > :12:51.to a critical report. But that is in no sense undermining the concept of
:12:52. > :12:55.the report and its wider five -- far-reaching recommendations. I'm
:12:56. > :12:59.delighted the Minister could stay for more than two questions today.
:13:00. > :13:08.In terms of this report and the state and today, you have been in
:13:09. > :13:11.position now for over six years, in charge of prisons, and you have
:13:12. > :13:16.appointed the leadership team. Do you not accept that the leadership
:13:17. > :13:19.team which has been a revolving door of Englishmen coming over to run the
:13:20. > :13:25.prisons has been totally detached from the prison itself and it is
:13:26. > :13:38.wholly disingenuous of you to skip -- a scapegoat to people who were in
:13:39. > :13:43.position the less than a year. I have been in position for five
:13:44. > :13:48.years, not over six. I don't appoint civil servants, there are procedures
:13:49. > :13:55.by where civil servants are appointed. Sue McAllister is
:13:56. > :14:02.certainly not an Englishman. The leadership team is not detached, the
:14:03. > :14:05.leadership I see being given by the senior team is absolutely attached
:14:06. > :14:06.to what is going on in the prison and that is no issue of
:14:07. > :14:15.scapegoating. Leaving aside the self-serving
:14:16. > :14:20.efforts by the Minister to give this report as soft a landing as
:14:21. > :14:26.possible. Under safe, unstable, dangerous. It could not be any more
:14:27. > :14:33.damning. What does it take for a minister in this house to take
:14:34. > :14:44.responsibility and resign for systematic and catastrophic failure?
:14:45. > :14:48.Well, I notice the customary positive and constructive attitude
:14:49. > :14:53.to these things! The simple question is, on what basis does a minister
:14:54. > :15:01.resigned when action is being taken to redress failings which are
:15:02. > :15:04.highlighted in the report by people running a particular service which
:15:05. > :15:06.is being taken at the appropriate level with full support from the
:15:07. > :15:07.Minister. The Employment Minister was also
:15:08. > :15:11.answering questions today. Stephen Farry updated Members
:15:12. > :15:13.on how he's resolving European Social Fund difficulties, but first,
:15:14. > :15:15.he responded to questions about the closure of Ulster University's
:15:16. > :15:19.School of Modern Languages. Ulster University's decision to
:15:20. > :15:21.close its School of Modern Languages is the
:15:22. > :15:24.outworking of cuts to my department As a result, Ulster University has
:15:25. > :15:30.sought to rationalise its course offerings across campuses which has
:15:31. > :15:33.resulted in the decision to close The university has advised that
:15:34. > :15:41.a number of factors were taken into consideration, including
:15:42. > :15:44.student demand, attrition rate, student satisfaction, employment
:15:45. > :15:47.statistics Consolidation of the teaching
:15:48. > :15:52.provision across all campuses will have budgetary savings
:15:53. > :15:55.without impacting on the quality of
:15:56. > :15:58.teaching which remains paramount. The level of interest and demand
:15:59. > :16:00.from students choosing modern languages subjects
:16:01. > :16:11.at all universities is low. Both in terms of the number
:16:12. > :16:15.of students who select modern languages as a first choice and
:16:16. > :16:18.in terms of those who meet While acknowledging concern amongst
:16:19. > :16:23.business and other stakeholders regarding access to online language
:16:24. > :16:26.causes, because of language skills of modern language learning
:16:27. > :16:33.in in Northern Ireland The Minister has made reference to
:16:34. > :16:37.further education colleges taking up the slack left by the
:16:38. > :16:39.Ulster University abandoning courses Perhaps he can gice
:16:40. > :16:43.more detail about what consultations and discussions have been had with
:16:44. > :16:48.the college of further education, what additional resources he is
:16:49. > :16:52.making available to them? I have had some discussions with
:16:53. > :16:55.the Minister of Education regarding In terms of further education
:16:56. > :17:06.itself, they are very clear in terms of their own admission
:17:07. > :17:14.about supporting the local economy. As the member will appreciate,
:17:15. > :17:18.we are finalising a new further education deal
:17:19. > :17:20.which will consolidate much My department is continuing to
:17:21. > :17:24.process claims from departments originally funded
:17:25. > :17:32.by the European Union. The majority
:17:33. > :17:36.of organisations have received full My department has brought
:17:37. > :17:39.on further staff to assist this process and ensure it is completed
:17:40. > :17:42.as soon as possible. I'm pleased to report that 66
:17:43. > :17:44.projects under the 2014-2020 Many have been up and running
:17:45. > :17:50.since April while some of the other EU-funded programmes
:17:51. > :17:54.both here and in other parts of the UK have yet to initiate
:17:55. > :18:00.their application processes. In order to ease cash flow issues
:18:01. > :18:03.for the new projects, my department is implementing an interim measure
:18:04. > :18:12.whereby 50% of the EFS and DEL contribution in unpaid
:18:13. > :18:15.claims is paid out and half later. Can I ask the Minister what
:18:16. > :18:18.meetings he intends to have with groups that are still impacted
:18:19. > :18:27.by the loss of NSF funding? At this stage, I am open to
:18:28. > :18:33.groups who want to get in touch with me and to ask for meetings
:18:34. > :18:36.and we will facilitate those. My officials will interact with
:18:37. > :18:39.groups on an ongoing basis as well. The last time the second stage
:18:40. > :18:44.of the Housing Bill came before the House it wasn't moved because
:18:45. > :18:47.there was no minister in post. Today, with business back to normal,
:18:48. > :18:50.the Social Development Minister, Mervyn Storey,
:18:51. > :18:54.set out the bill's main aims. In recognition of the limited time
:18:55. > :18:56.available to pass the legislation within
:18:57. > :18:59.the current mandate, I have decided not to proceed with the proposals
:19:00. > :19:04.relating to short tenancies, eligibility for homeless assistance
:19:05. > :19:07.and injunctions This is so that a more concise
:19:08. > :19:13.bill could be drafted and achieve The bill is a short
:19:14. > :19:22.but potentially very effective The provisions
:19:23. > :19:27.of the bill are necessary to support the strategies and initiatives
:19:28. > :19:30.for dealing with empty homes, anti-social behaviour and disrepair
:19:31. > :19:37.in the private housing sector. The committee did note that it only
:19:38. > :19:54.relates to social landlords and there is concern that absentee
:19:55. > :20:02.landlords are being missed. That tenants who move
:20:03. > :20:04.from social housing for anti-social behaviour could move to a private
:20:05. > :20:07.sector home and the landlord will not have been made aware of their
:20:08. > :20:09.anti-social behaviour history. The definition of anti-social
:20:10. > :20:11.behaviour, there is a note about widening it to people not
:20:12. > :20:14.maintaining the property and I would urge caution around that because
:20:15. > :20:17.there could be a number of reasons. a person with disability or mental
:20:18. > :20:20.ill-health. So I want to be very clear
:20:21. > :20:25.when that might be used. Are we going to protect the
:20:26. > :20:28.Housing Executive and social housing associations
:20:29. > :20:33.against potentially disruptive And if we do that and do not have
:20:34. > :20:39.some mechanism for including private sector landlords, we risk actually
:20:40. > :20:44.pushing those involved in that anti-social activity
:20:45. > :20:49.into the private rented sector. While the identification and
:20:50. > :20:54.hopefully reincorporation of empty homes into either the social or
:20:55. > :20:59.private sector is important, it is I hope the Minister will
:21:00. > :21:06.readily recognise that. It is a small step to deal with both
:21:07. > :21:10.properties that are a nuisance in the area but also provide useful
:21:11. > :21:18.means of providing housing. I welcome the opportunity to take
:21:19. > :21:21.part in this second stage debate, But the Minister was flip-flopping
:21:22. > :21:30.in and out of government. He told us that business could not
:21:31. > :21:34.be as usual because the IRA had murdered and once the independent
:21:35. > :21:38.panel confirmed that the IRA had murdered and they had guns and an
:21:39. > :21:42.army council, suddenly it was time to sweep murder under the carpet and
:21:43. > :21:47.it is time for business as usual. That brings us back here today,
:21:48. > :21:51.nothing to do with principle or conviction in politics,
:21:52. > :21:54.but everything to do with And that bill passed
:21:55. > :22:02.its second stage. And the Minister didn't move
:22:03. > :22:05.the second stage of another bill relating to housing - the Houses
:22:06. > :22:09.in Multiple Occupation Bill. The Assembly has debated
:22:10. > :22:12.a proposed independent investigation into one of the darkest events
:22:13. > :22:15.of the Troubles. 11 people died following a series
:22:16. > :22:17.of shootings by members of the Parachute Regiment
:22:18. > :22:21.in west Belfast in 1971. The families of those killed
:22:22. > :22:24.in Ballymurphy 44 years ago want an investigation, along similar
:22:25. > :22:28.lines to the Hillsborough Inquiry, jointly funded by both the British
:22:29. > :22:42.and Irish governments. 44 years ago, in the summer of 1971,
:22:43. > :22:47.the British army went on a three-day killing spree in the month of
:22:48. > :22:52.August. Throughout the area, the wreaks havoc on the streets. At the
:22:53. > :22:57.end of that three-day period, 11 people lay dead and lives were
:22:58. > :23:00.changed for ever. For over four decades, the families of those who
:23:01. > :23:04.were killed have been campaigning to find the truth of what happened,
:23:05. > :23:10.that was responsible, what decisions were taken that led to the murders
:23:11. > :23:15.of their loved ones. Those efforts have been thwarted with closed doors
:23:16. > :23:21.at every turn. Notwithstanding that, a robust body of evidence has been
:23:22. > :23:25.gathered by the families at which point to the fact that all those
:23:26. > :23:30.people were innocent victims, unlawfully killed, and those actions
:23:31. > :23:35.represent a breach of Article two of the European Convention of human
:23:36. > :23:37.rights. I have listened with interest and I have absolutely no
:23:38. > :23:44.doubt that the victims and the families that are left want to hear
:23:45. > :23:49.the truth of what actually occurred in that unique piece of our history.
:23:50. > :23:58.And I think that is something which I certainly have sympathy with and
:23:59. > :24:03.understand. Those were not the only events to take place when no one has
:24:04. > :24:07.ever been brought to account. Where we had major breaches of Article
:24:08. > :24:16.two, the right to life in this province. It is timely that we have
:24:17. > :24:21.this debate today, Mr Speaker because not only is the shadow of
:24:22. > :24:24.Ballymurphy over this chamber, it is over the negotiations that are
:24:25. > :24:30.ongoing not far away from here. And the shadow of all of the past is
:24:31. > :24:36.across all of those negotiations that are ongoing as we speak.
:24:37. > :24:46.Victims have had a huge range of experiences. From the 14 who died on
:24:47. > :24:50.bloody Sunday which has seen not one, but two Public enquiries and an
:24:51. > :24:55.expenditure of hundreds of millions of pounds, to the many relatives of
:24:56. > :25:02.over 1000 dead who still wait for something since the HET was wound
:25:03. > :25:10.up. There has been nothing for that huge number of people who, like the
:25:11. > :25:15.Ballymurphy families of truth, truth, justice, and knowledge and,
:25:16. > :25:21.information. I suppose the biggest difficulty with the activity of this
:25:22. > :25:41.motion is that the community that I know best, many within it will say,
:25:42. > :25:48.where is the inquiry into Consett -- La Mon, where is the inquiry into a
:25:49. > :25:52.litany of other ills. It will surprise people that I'm standing
:25:53. > :25:57.here making this plea. I am wearing a poppy and there is a reason for
:25:58. > :26:00.that. I want to be proud of our army and I want to commemorate and
:26:01. > :26:06.acknowledge the sacrifice that the Army has made over the years in
:26:07. > :26:11.theatres of war. This was not a theatre of war. And if the Army has
:26:12. > :26:18.misbehaved, in the circumstances, I think they need to be able to
:26:19. > :26:22.acknowledge it. It happened in the bloody Sunday which never needed to
:26:23. > :26:29.happen. If this have been happily investigated. So I want to continue
:26:30. > :26:32.to regard the Army with pride and I think that they need to cooperate is
:26:33. > :26:35.such an inquiry can be put together. A very personal contribution to the
:26:36. > :26:38.debate from the Alliance Party's Trevor Lunn - and that motion was
:26:39. > :26:51.defeated by 48 votes to 44. Allison, the Ballymurphy families'
:26:52. > :26:55.situation has been covered by your paper for many years. Today's motion
:26:56. > :27:02.was defeated, that is airing momentum behind an inquiry? Varies.
:27:03. > :27:11.There has been a number of new developments down to the families
:27:12. > :27:14.and victims' groups. It is nothing that the government have pushed. The
:27:15. > :27:22.families will continue until they get a closure. We will never see an
:27:23. > :27:26.inquiry like the one for bloody Sunday. But the Hillsborough type
:27:27. > :27:32.investigation, that is something that could help with healing. Not
:27:33. > :27:36.just the Ballymurphy, but other unsolved cases. The motion was
:27:37. > :27:44.brought by two Sinn Fein members and the Alliance Party's Trevor Lunn.
:27:45. > :27:48.How significant is that? His contribution was very significant.
:27:49. > :27:52.You could hear the waiver in his voice. He is right, if people are to
:27:53. > :28:01.support the British Army, they have to be held to account. The bloody
:28:02. > :28:06.Sunday and the other cases are clear indications when the army was wrong.
:28:07. > :28:10.This cannot just be swept under the carpet. Finally, we heard the
:28:11. > :28:16.Justice Minister David Ford getting a grilling following that was --
:28:17. > :28:21.report on Maghaberry Prison. It does not appear that he is considering
:28:22. > :28:29.his position. He is not, and Sue McAllister is not either. That is
:28:30. > :28:34.incredible. If this was in England, Scotland or Wales, this would not
:28:35. > :28:38.happen. Heads would roll. Maghaberry Prison the worst prison in Europe.
:28:39. > :28:42.Will we have a deal at the end of next week? I'm not optimistic for
:28:43. > :28:47.this week, but I think at the end of next week, we will have one. Whether
:28:48. > :28:49.it was Dick or whether it will just be sticking plaster I'm not sure.
:28:50. > :28:51.There is something cooking. I'll be back tomorrow
:28:52. > :28:57.at the same time here on BBC Two.