:00:26. > :00:30.Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Coming up on the programme... We're
:00:31. > :00:40.not going away - the message from victims as a widow recounts the
:00:41. > :00:47.moment she lost her husband. He went around the corner and there was a
:00:48. > :00:49.flash of gunfire. 17 bullets were put into him.
:00:50. > :00:56.There's unanimous support across the chamber for the Carrier Bags Bill.
:00:57. > :00:59.Passing this legislation will enable us to build on the success and to
:01:00. > :01:07.make our streets cleaner. And our Political Reporter Stephen
:01:08. > :01:10.Walker joins me in the studio. Victims took centre stage at
:01:11. > :01:13.Stormont today when they joined MLAs and members of the public in the
:01:14. > :01:17.Senate Chamber to mark the European Day for Victims of Terrorism. They
:01:18. > :01:20.heard the story of RUC reservist John Proctor who was killed in 1981
:01:21. > :01:23.leaving hospital after visiting his wife and newborn son. In December
:01:24. > :01:26.2012 Seamus Kearney was found guilty of Mr Proctor's murder. Today June
:01:27. > :01:28.McMullin, the widow of John Proctor, gave a moving account of life
:01:29. > :01:43.without her husband. gave a moving account of life
:01:44. > :01:50.childhood sweethearts. We met when I was 14 years old. We married in 1977
:01:51. > :01:58.and our first child was born in 1979. After that, he decided to join
:01:59. > :02:03.the police. The first time the form came, I threw it in the fire. But he
:02:04. > :02:08.brought another one home so he joined the police. He came to the
:02:09. > :02:14.hospital to tell us the news that Allen had been shot dead. The day of
:02:15. > :02:19.his funeral there was a bomb scare so John did not get to the hospital
:02:20. > :02:25.that night to see me. He came later on that evening and the ward was
:02:26. > :02:36.quiet. There was not much being said. Close to nine o'clock, he said
:02:37. > :02:42.it was time he was going home. We said good night and we said our
:02:43. > :02:52.goodbyes. He went around the corner. Within a flash, I heard the gunfire.
:02:53. > :02:58.17 bullets were put into his back. My life and my love was gone.
:02:59. > :03:04.Night-time was the worst because when everyone went home, I was on my
:03:05. > :03:11.own. I went upstairs and I shut the door and I was alone. There was no
:03:12. > :03:15.one to help me. At that time no arrests had been made and time
:03:16. > :03:22.passed. In the Historical Enquiries Team was set up and a group
:03:23. > :03:28.contacted them on my behalf. On the 28th of November, we were back in
:03:29. > :03:39.court. We stood in court and the judge spoke on how he came to his
:03:40. > :03:42.decision. He took 50 minutes. He told the man responsible you are
:03:43. > :03:44.guilty of the murder of John Proctor and we could not leave it. Amer
:03:45. > :04:01.prayers had answered. and we could not leave it. Amer
:04:02. > :04:06.based on law and order. In partial and fair justice has been traded for
:04:07. > :04:12.something else. We feel let down and cannot trust the system. It is time
:04:13. > :04:18.our government stop waiting. Victims will not be brushed under the mat.
:04:19. > :04:31.We are not going away. It is time our government stood up for us. We
:04:32. > :04:34.are not going away. Thank you. June McMullin, the widow of RUC
:04:35. > :04:37.Reservist John Proctor, telling her story in the Senate Chamber today.
:04:38. > :04:41.Our Political Reporter Stephen Walker is with me now. That was a
:04:42. > :04:44.very powerful testimony from June McMullin and a reminder of why
:04:45. > :04:49.victims want their issues to be at the heart of the current debate.
:04:50. > :04:56.That is correct. It was incredibly moving. It was a reminder of all the
:04:57. > :05:01.families that have been left behind. This was an annual event today, the
:05:02. > :05:08.European Day for Victims of Terrorism. Today was a reminder of
:05:09. > :05:15.the pain that is still there and how much work still must be done in the
:05:16. > :05:18.area of victims. Politically, it is a reminder that there is no
:05:19. > :05:22.consensus on what must happen to victims in the years ahead.
:05:23. > :05:27.Victims and the past have been part of what the Ulster Unionist Party
:05:28. > :05:31.has been saying today. They have released a document detailing their
:05:32. > :05:39.thoughts on issues like the past, parades and the flags issue. On
:05:40. > :05:44.flags, they talk about the Union Flag been blown on government
:05:45. > :05:49.buildings, on parades they back a voluntary rather than a compulsory
:05:50. > :05:54.code of conduct. They strongly undersize the house proposals when
:05:55. > :05:55.it comes to things like a new investigations unit which they think
:05:56. > :06:09.is unaccountable. This is what Mike investigations unit which they think
:06:10. > :06:13.work. These assisted attenders produce unreliable evidence. They
:06:14. > :06:19.break the arrangements that they have with the criminal prosecution.
:06:20. > :06:22.Quite simply, it is a waste of resources and a waste of money and
:06:23. > :06:27.does not produce the results we want. These people should go to
:06:28. > :06:32.court and if guilty they should be convicted. If they have assisted in
:06:33. > :06:34.prosecuting -- prosecuting others it would be proper for the judge to
:06:35. > :06:40.take this into account. Has there been much reaction to what
:06:41. > :06:45.the UUP has had to say? There has been some reaction, summer but could
:06:46. > :06:51.it double stop Gerry Kelly said the proposals were in his words fantasy
:06:52. > :06:56.politics, driven by electoral concerns rather than any desire to
:06:57. > :07:00.deal with outstanding issues. There were criticisms from the DUP who
:07:01. > :07:08.said that the Ulster Unionist Party is all awry with issues over it as a
:07:09. > :07:16.trading days. -- over designating days. They said their policy is
:07:17. > :07:19.mixed up. Anyone would think that there is an election coming up!
:07:20. > :07:24.Meantime, where are we with the outstanding issues of flags, parades
:07:25. > :07:28.and the past? We are in limbo at the moment. The talks have not gone
:07:29. > :07:33.anywhere and Mike Nesbitt says his party will not take part in any more
:07:34. > :07:39.meetings. With an election on the horizon there seems to be little
:07:40. > :07:43.sign of consensus on these issues. Stephen Walker, thank you for now.
:07:44. > :07:45.The Carrier Bags Bill passed its final stage in the Assembly today.
:07:46. > :07:49.The Environment Minister explained that the bill extends the carrier
:07:50. > :07:53.bags levy to include re-usable bags with a retail cost of up to 20
:07:54. > :07:57.pence. The department has always anticipated that the levy on single
:07:58. > :08:02.use banks would generate and increase in the sales of low-cost
:08:03. > :08:07.reusable bags. Such an increase would be welcome news if these bags
:08:08. > :08:14.were being actively reused to full potential. But early estimates
:08:15. > :08:16.suggest that the rate of increase is much higher than we anticipated. I
:08:17. > :08:25.do not want much higher than we anticipated. I
:08:26. > :08:32.want to see bags being reused as much as possible. It is with this in
:08:33. > :08:36.mind that from the 19th of January 20 15th this will extend the levy to
:08:37. > :08:41.reusable carrier bag is with a retail price of less than 20p. This
:08:42. > :08:48.is intended to prevent them from being discarded prematurely and
:08:49. > :08:51.becoming the new throwaway bag. The Department needs to make best use of
:08:52. > :08:58.the additional time available before the extension of the levy to ensure
:08:59. > :09:05.that this communication campaign is timely and appropriate. This
:09:06. > :09:10.campaign must build on existing support from consumers and should be
:09:11. > :09:17.underpinned via an understanding that bags for life must be used and
:09:18. > :09:22.reused as long as possible. This is an example of good default
:09:23. > :09:26.government and has enjoyed broad support. It has changed behaviour.
:09:27. > :09:33.To my mind, that must be regarded as an outcome of good policy. Ten years
:09:34. > :09:37.ago, not many of us would forecast that we would have a range of
:09:38. > :09:42.coloured wins at home as well as recycling materials. I look forward
:09:43. > :09:55.to the development of this overall proposal. I do not think it. Your.
:09:56. > :10:02.You will see us back here in another year or two, trying to change some
:10:03. > :10:11.of the legislation again. This is not a final proposal. I see it much
:10:12. > :10:14.more coming this way. Tom Elliott said and do not know if it is out
:10:15. > :10:24.the hope or fear that he suspects this is not the end of that. I hope
:10:25. > :10:27.we are. I am currently exploring other options around items such as
:10:28. > :10:36.bottles and election posters! The other options around items such as
:10:37. > :10:44.of the number of wax we see tangled in our hedges. -- the number of
:10:45. > :10:48.bags. This will enable us to build on our success to make our streets
:10:49. > :10:55.cleaner. And that bill was passed on a
:10:56. > :10:58.cross-community vote. The Ulster Bank and public sector
:10:59. > :11:01.jobs were concerning MLAs in the chamber today as they questioned the
:11:02. > :11:05.Finance Minister. First up though, the problem of empty shops in our
:11:06. > :11:09.town and cities. The issue of empty properties is one that I am well
:11:10. > :11:16.aware of. There is not a town in Northern Ireland that I would not
:11:17. > :11:25.visit in my capacity and it is an issue that is raised frequently
:11:26. > :11:32.outrageous. The revaluation... Part of the problem with empty shops is
:11:33. > :11:37.that there is a myriad of reasons, people using online shopping, the
:11:38. > :11:46.growth of large retailers, all of these have had an impact. -- raised
:11:47. > :11:51.frequently with us. There is little that any change in the rating system
:11:52. > :11:54.can do. What I can ensure is that until the end of 20 15th empty
:11:55. > :12:03.property relief which was introduced by my predecessor which gives a 50%
:12:04. > :12:09.relief, that will continue into the first year of operation. I am
:12:10. > :12:15.pleased to report that nearly 230 businesses have opened since 2012.
:12:16. > :12:25.Hundreds of people have been employed.
:12:26. > :12:28.Book-sellers reform is synonymous with the idea cutting public service
:12:29. > :12:33.jobs which we are all concerned about. Can I ask the minister, what
:12:34. > :12:39.guarantee will you give to public service workers in particular public
:12:40. > :12:45.service reform in the North does not equal job cuts?
:12:46. > :12:49.I am keen to learn from everywhere, and I'm
:12:50. > :12:56.I am keen to learn from everywhere, counterparts in the Irish Republic,
:12:57. > :12:58.I am keen to learn from everywhere, further afield. The reason I don't
:12:59. > :13:04.want to think of ourselves in isolation is because the problems in
:13:05. > :13:06.those states, but an extensive list, near grappling with the same
:13:07. > :13:16.problems we are witches decreasing public expenditure, and public
:13:17. > :13:24.expectations. While ideas may not be directly applicable, there is a
:13:25. > :13:27.source of learning and all of them. There is great concern about the
:13:28. > :13:34.lack of clarity of scale of the Ulster Bank operation which is
:13:35. > :13:37.causing concern among staff. I met with the Deputy First Minister
:13:38. > :13:45.a few weeks ago and the Chief Executive of the Ulster Bank group
:13:46. > :13:49.and the head of the Ulster Bank in Northern Ireland, and as you would
:13:50. > :13:52.expect we have sought us your answers as to what the bank would
:13:53. > :13:56.look like moving forward in Northern Ireland. I think we need emphasise
:13:57. > :14:00.how important Ulster Bank is to the economy in Northern Ireland, it is
:14:01. > :14:04.by far our biggest bank and has huge market share in terms of business
:14:05. > :14:05.customers in Northern Ireland, but it is very clear from those
:14:06. > :14:10.conversations and the review published a few weeks ago that
:14:11. > :14:14.moving forward, Ulster Bank in Northern Ireland and in Ireland as a
:14:15. > :14:20.whole will be a much smaller bank. I am someone is sure do the Ulster
:14:21. > :14:24.Bank brand is here to stay. Simon Hamilton sounding a positive
:14:25. > :14:27.note on the Ulster Bank. The day began with a point of order from Jim
:14:28. > :14:31.Allister who was exercised over the appearance of a woman at an event in
:14:32. > :14:34.Parliament Buildings. The visitor, who was taking part in the
:14:35. > :14:37.Alternative Ms Ulster event, spoke bare-chested, save for a large
:14:38. > :14:46.feather necklace. Can I ask, what are the arrangements
:14:47. > :14:50.in terms of the vetting and oversight of events which take place
:14:51. > :14:59.within the precincts of this building? I refer to the incident of
:15:00. > :14:59.indecent exhibitionism which took place on
:15:00. > :15:13.indecent exhibitionism which took of this building. And therefore, I
:15:14. > :15:20.want to know, when events are organised, who has responsibility
:15:21. > :15:25.for vetting and overseeing that an acceptable standard is pertained at
:15:26. > :15:29.all events held within this House? Is it your responsibility, the
:15:30. > :15:33.Assembly commission's responsibility, or is it the
:15:34. > :15:38.responsibility of the sponsoring Members of the particular event?
:15:39. > :15:42.I thank the Member for us by the order. It is not a matter for this
:15:43. > :15:47.House, it is certainly not the response ability of the Speaker on
:15:48. > :15:52.whatever event is happening in Parliament buildings, but let me say
:15:53. > :15:55.to the House and Members, it is the responsibility of Members respond to
:15:56. > :15:59.events in this House, and they certainly need to be held to
:16:00. > :16:07.account. With this bigger be able to inform
:16:08. > :16:14.us, are there papers in this House, allowed in this House, with page
:16:15. > :16:18.three whether nude pictures of women and object occasion of women? And I
:16:19. > :16:24.wonder if the previous person who made the point of order, is he
:16:25. > :16:27.concerned about those pages? I'm tried to make sure this does not
:16:28. > :16:31.turn into a full-blooded debate about events here in Parliament
:16:32. > :16:34.buildings. I would say to the Member on that further point of order, it
:16:35. > :16:39.is not the responsibility of this House or for the Speaker what
:16:40. > :16:42.newspapers Members are reading in this House.
:16:43. > :16:45.The Speaker, William Hay, resisting the temptation to get drawn into a
:16:46. > :16:47.debate on Members' newspaper reading habits.
:16:48. > :16:50.The Employment and Learning Minister was asked about teacher training and
:16:51. > :16:53.the recognition of Northern Ireland qualifications by universities in
:16:54. > :16:55.the Republic during Question Time today. But it was industrial
:16:56. > :17:01.relations at further education colleges that came under the
:17:02. > :17:06.spotlight first. Can I ask the Minister for his
:17:07. > :17:15.reaction to the published that implied that work in 64 magician
:17:16. > :17:15.colleges is not fit for purpose? I no much welcome
:17:16. > :17:28.colleges is not fit for purpose? the FC sector. It is important to
:17:29. > :17:32.stress that colleges and I took forward the commissioning of this
:17:33. > :17:37.report and has reported to them. This is not something that has been
:17:38. > :17:41.imposed upon the sector, it is something the sector was proactive
:17:42. > :17:44.in taking forward, and the Member will recall that such a process was
:17:45. > :17:51.one of the recommendations arising from the McConnell report into the
:17:52. > :17:54.industrial relations situation. In terms of the way forward for teacher
:17:55. > :18:00.education, we are looking to have a rounded solution that meets the
:18:01. > :18:05.needs of Northern Ireland society as a whole, and it is my firm belief a
:18:06. > :18:10.situation of teacher training were any individual can be trained to
:18:11. > :18:15.work in any type of school and indeed any particular sector within
:18:16. > :18:17.our education system. I believe there is a number of different
:18:18. > :18:23.formats in which that can be achieved. Whenever the Member makes
:18:24. > :18:29.reference to the ethos, I would stress that the college itself
:18:30. > :18:36.should not be seen as an exclusive training college by the sector. And
:18:37. > :18:40.enrolment figures may show a majority of Protestants, it is more
:18:41. > :18:45.diverse than people might at first think.
:18:46. > :18:48.Or discussions have you had with your kind about in the South and
:18:49. > :18:53.what discussions have taken place about perceived inequality with the
:18:54. > :18:59.CEO system that prevents students from the North accessing degree
:19:00. > :19:04.courses in the South? This is an ongoing issue, and indeed
:19:05. > :19:08.it is an issue of deep concern to both myself and John Dowd, the
:19:09. > :19:13.Minister for education. The Member will be aware that the Trinity
:19:14. > :19:20.College and Dublin city University have recently relaxed their entry
:19:21. > :19:24.requirements to more readily facilitates applications from
:19:25. > :19:28.Northern Ireland. I'm also aware that University College, Galway, is
:19:29. > :19:38.also considering making similar moves.
:19:39. > :19:44.also considering making similar be on a uniform basis to facilitate
:19:45. > :19:49.the ease of access. Looking about from a more strategic level, it is a
:19:50. > :19:52.matter of deep concern that we have much more students coming from the
:19:53. > :19:57.south of the island to the North than we have flowing in the north to
:19:58. > :20:00.south direction. There are a number of barriers in that regard.
:20:01. > :20:02.Stephen Farry on the challenge for students from Northern Ireland
:20:03. > :20:05.securing university places in the Republic. The sale of so-called
:20:06. > :20:09.legal highs came under the scrutiny of the chamber earlier. A DUP motion
:20:10. > :20:12.said they were being sold under false pretences by using disclaimers
:20:13. > :20:19.such as "not fit for human consumption." The Health Minister,
:20:20. > :20:26.Edwin Poots. Cannabis, heroin and marijuana are
:20:27. > :20:32.old news, instead, these so-called legal highs are slick impersonations
:20:33. > :20:35.of illegal drugs but are more lethal and more deadly than any of the
:20:36. > :20:42.outlawed products whose effects they are designated to mimic.
:20:43. > :20:47.These legal highs often make use of disclaimers such as, not fit for
:20:48. > :20:52.human consumption, motor not clearly identifiable in terms of the
:20:53. > :20:56.content. Bizarre see how they are unsuitable and how they may
:20:57. > :21:01.negatively affect someone's health. -- they do not say how they are
:21:02. > :21:10.answered. Mike.
:21:11. > :21:15.The youngest dealer at that time that the victim in my constituency
:21:16. > :21:19.had bought from was ten years old. The emphasis was placed on the
:21:20. > :21:23.supplier by the legislation which was enacted to ensure that the
:21:24. > :21:28.person who sets up what are called head shops has to prove the
:21:29. > :21:34.substances and the products they are selling do not have unintended
:21:35. > :21:39.consequences, indeed are downright dangerous.
:21:40. > :21:43.And leave have been some good first step in addressing the issue. So far
:21:44. > :21:56.temperate bands step in addressing the issue. So far
:21:57. > :22:02.issue. However, I personally believe we have to do more. That is why I
:22:03. > :22:05.recently raised this issue with the Home Secretary, seeking a more
:22:06. > :22:08.robust and consistent approach. The Health Minister, Edwin Poots.
:22:09. > :22:11.There was unanimous support for a motion calling for more women to get
:22:12. > :22:13.involved in politics. The debate, which came two days after
:22:14. > :22:18.International Women's Day, was proposed by Sinn Fein's Megan
:22:19. > :22:21.Fearon. City to present overpopulation are
:22:22. > :22:28.female, however women hold only 18 present of elected positions on this
:22:29. > :22:33.island. Of 108 MLAs only 19% are female. This Assembly chamber is in
:22:34. > :22:38.the way represent it as of the society we live in. Is it any wonder
:22:39. > :22:43.women get turned off by politics? I could spend this whole debate
:22:44. > :22:45.detailing the ins and outs of every sexist comment and joke that has
:22:46. > :22:50.been made to me, never mind the other woman. It is just as well
:22:51. > :22:54.people don't get to hear what happens in other parts this
:22:55. > :22:56.building. I congratulate the southern
:22:57. > :23:00.government for its brave move in bringing forward quarters in terms
:23:01. > :23:05.of the level and number of female candidates which parties have to and
:23:06. > :23:08.will have to adhere to, because it is unfortunate that almost 100 years
:23:09. > :23:13.on from woman winning the right to vote there are still too few women
:23:14. > :23:18.were presented in public and political life. It would seem that
:23:19. > :23:28.we may well have to introduce mandatory quarters in order to have
:23:29. > :23:32.any realistic expectation of improving the number of female
:23:33. > :23:36.representatives coming through. I am the result of a so-called
:23:37. > :23:43.women's development programme that backfired on me. Back in 2008 I was
:23:44. > :23:47.elected as a party officer with response ability for women's
:23:48. > :23:50.development and so I had a free hand to create my own women's develop and
:23:51. > :23:53.programme for the Ulster Unionist Party we had meetings and training
:23:54. > :24:01.sessions and I worked to encourage Party we had meetings and training
:24:02. > :24:08.processes for selection to Party we had meetings and training
:24:09. > :24:15.needed to go forward. Onto selection and on to election. I didn't expect
:24:16. > :24:20.to be in this role myself. I wouldn't be the first to mention
:24:21. > :24:32.that this is often a match all and petty and adversarial environment.
:24:33. > :24:36.-- macho environment. This often turns women of politics. BC this a
:24:37. > :24:42.hothouse for trivial party politics and bickering. The general
:24:43. > :24:47.dissatisfaction with politics is a factor. It is not just women who are
:24:48. > :24:52.not getting involved, it is also people with moderate views, young
:24:53. > :25:03.people, ethnic minorities, Members of the LGBT community.
:25:04. > :25:09.I now -- I know that my own story of how got involved, it was not where I
:25:10. > :25:13.wanted to be, I was happy with my life before politics. It may not be
:25:14. > :25:15.the best job, but it is not that bad.
:25:16. > :25:18.Paula Bradley with her slightly sceptical view of the political
:25:19. > :25:21.world. And if young women aren't inspired to enter the world of
:25:22. > :25:24.politics, maybe they could be Northern Ireland's next gold
:25:25. > :25:26.medallist. Kelly Gallagher from Bangor, with her guide Charlotte
:25:27. > :25:30.Evans, won Britain's first ever Paralympics gold at a Winter Games
:25:31. > :25:36.this morning. And our MLAs were quick to offer their
:25:37. > :25:40.congratulations. There is a strong message here for
:25:41. > :25:45.us all. This is a great day. Especially for those people living
:25:46. > :25:49.with a disability. I think the message quite simply is, whatever
:25:50. > :25:55.the adversity, keep working through and you will achieve your goals.
:25:56. > :26:00.Sometimes critics of this House will accuse us of going downhill. At
:26:01. > :26:04.least today we can celebrate the achievement of somebody going
:26:05. > :26:09.downhill. In the week of international women's day, Northern
:26:10. > :26:11.Ireland has a very positive role model, people who are disabled have
:26:12. > :26:19.Ireland has a very positive role of us in Northern Ireland have a
:26:20. > :26:22.act as inspiration. I hope I united voice
:26:23. > :26:28.act as inspiration. I hope I united of, well done, Kelly, you have done
:26:29. > :26:30.us all proud. Kelly Gallagher wrappers and two of
:26:31. > :26:38.the groups least represented in sport, namely disabled and women. --
:26:39. > :26:43.Kelly Gallagher represents two of the groups least represented. It is
:26:44. > :26:50.wonderful that she won the first gold medal for Great Britain, and
:26:51. > :26:54.she represents very much all of us. Congratulations and congratulations
:26:55. > :26:56.all my party to Kelly Gallagher and Charlotte Evans.
:26:57. > :27:00.Sinn Fein's Cathal O hOisin. Stephen Walker is with me again. Just before
:27:01. > :27:03.we go - a lot of our politicians are heading stateside this week for the
:27:04. > :27:07.St Patrick's Day celebrations. Yes, the annual trip once again his
:27:08. > :27:16.year and lots of politicians jumping on planes and trains. The UUP leader
:27:17. > :27:20.will be there, Gerry Adams is going, Stephen Farry from the Alliance
:27:21. > :27:24.party is going, the first and deadly first Ministers will be going. They
:27:25. > :27:28.are all converging on Washington for the end of the week. How significant
:27:29. > :27:30.will it be if Barack Obama doesn't meet Peter Robinson and Martin
:27:31. > :27:36.McGuinness during their trip to Washington? At the moment he is not
:27:37. > :27:40.slated to meet them. It has been flagged up that he
:27:41. > :27:42.possibly may not meet them, and Peter Robinson has been quite
:27:43. > :27:47.relaxed about that and basically said, look, the president of the
:27:48. > :27:51.United States is a very busy man, there is a lot going on. He has
:27:52. > :27:55.Ukraine on his agenda. So it is possible they may not meet. First
:27:56. > :28:01.Minister will be at an event hosted by Joe Biden, the vice president,
:28:02. > :28:05.and it is hoped that Barack Obama may pop in at that event. But if it
:28:06. > :28:11.does not happen, the politicians out there understand the reasons why.
:28:12. > :28:14.It has always been a bit up in the air in the past before the visit
:28:15. > :28:21.happened, hasn't it? Yes, and timetables change, however
:28:22. > :28:29.it has been traditional to expect Barack Obama to meet the first and
:28:30. > :28:33.deadly first Ministers. There will be a routine eating
:28:34. > :28:36.deadly first Ministers. between this T-shirt and this I
:28:37. > :28:37.deadly first Ministers. Minister and Downing Street. It's
:28:38. > :28:46.possible that Ukraine will be discussed, and it seems fairly
:28:47. > :28:48.likely that the Taoiseach will talk about the massacre and again call
:28:49. > :28:54.for an enquiry into those shootings.
:28:55. > :28:58.That's it for tonight. Join me again tomorrow night at the same time -
:28:59. > :29:31.11.20pm here on BBC Two. Until then, from everyone in the team, bye bye.
:29:32. > :29:33.We stood there, packed like sardines...
:29:34. > :29:35.The fellow next to you, he was your best friend.
:29:36. > :29:37.Perhaps didn't know him the day before.
:29:38. > :29:42.Others just stood staring at the cloudless sky.
:29:43. > :29:44.We were told that we were to be prepared to receive orders
:29:45. > :29:54.They were the longest and the shortest hours in life.
:29:55. > :29:58.And then zero hour, and all hell let loose.