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:00:26. > :00:33.Hello. Welcome to Stormont Today. Coming up: MLAs go on the attack

:00:34. > :00:38.over the lack of a Sexual Orientation Strategy. . I find the

:00:39. > :00:46.DUP's attitude in this particular position to be Seine phobic,

:00:47. > :00:50.homophobic and claustrophobic. The Road Racing Bill passes its final

:00:51. > :00:54.stage. On this occasion I am very happy to be a member of this

:00:55. > :00:59.Assembly because we've done something positive, constructive. We

:01:00. > :01:02.operated the committee system in the way it should be. I am joined by

:01:03. > :01:05.Gerry Millar to look at the final sitting of the Assembly before

:01:06. > :01:15.Christmas. Yet again the Assembly was divided

:01:16. > :01:20.on an issue involving the gay community. The office of the First

:01:21. > :01:24.and Deputy First Ministers was accused of dragging its heels on

:01:25. > :01:31.producing a Sexual Orientation Strategy. Some MLAs singled out the

:01:32. > :01:36.Dup. It is about the absence of

:01:37. > :01:40.discrimination. About ensuring people are treated the same

:01:41. > :01:46.regardless of difference. From home phobic bullying in schools to tragic

:01:47. > :01:52.incidents of hate crime and suicide, far too many lesbian, gay, bisexual

:01:53. > :01:59.and transgender people are subjected to discrimination because of their

:02:00. > :02:06.sexual orientation or gender identity. This is as outdated as it

:02:07. > :02:12.is wrong. Junior minister Newton in 2010 suggested to the House that a

:02:13. > :02:19.strategy was imminent. Then on 18th June last, his successor made clear

:02:20. > :02:22.it was an intention to publish a revised Sexual Orientation Strategy

:02:23. > :02:27.by the end of last year. There seems to be a commitment to test opinion

:02:28. > :02:35.on issues about the right to live a free life, free of intimidation and

:02:36. > :02:39.fear. I do not believe, given the section 75 of the Northern Ireland

:02:40. > :02:43.Act that we need to test those opinions. Let's get on and support

:02:44. > :02:48.the strategy. No-one is above the law. To that end, there is in the

:02:49. > :02:53.document a commitment to publishing a Sexual Orientation Strategy aimed

:02:54. > :02:57.at ensuring that people of the community are not subjected to such

:02:58. > :03:00.crimes. This House should be acquainted with the stage we're at

:03:01. > :03:06.in this process. I would refer everyone back to a question answered

:03:07. > :03:11.by Jonathan Bale in Question Time on the 13th October this year. I quote

:03:12. > :03:15.- a consultation document that will inform public consultation on the

:03:16. > :03:20.strategy is under consideration in the department. That strategy will

:03:21. > :03:26.be published once the consultation process has been completed. I

:03:27. > :03:31.noticed that Miss Lo asked the question - is it two parties not

:03:32. > :03:35.agreeing. I think it is. It is obviously Sinn Fein stand on issues

:03:36. > :03:40.of equality. It needs to be pointed out that it could ring hollow to

:03:41. > :03:46.some that it is being brought forward by the Alliance Party.

:03:47. > :03:50.Some have failed to show up to vote. However, Sinn Fein has been highly

:03:51. > :03:56.supportive of the community. It is obvious where the blockage is on

:03:57. > :04:00.this issue. This is about delivering for those people in our society who

:04:01. > :04:04.have been left behind, because far too often this House tells them they

:04:05. > :04:08.are not a full member of our community, that they don't have a

:04:09. > :04:12.right to play their full part in our society. It is about time that we

:04:13. > :04:19.started sending them a different message. I find the DUP's attitude

:04:20. > :04:28.in this particular position to be Seine phobic, homophobic and claws

:04:29. > :04:32.-- zenophobic, homophobic and claustrophobic.

:04:33. > :04:36.I want you to rule on that, Deputy Speaker or the speaker to rule on

:04:37. > :04:40.it. It is out of order, in my book. I have never been home phobic to

:04:41. > :04:45.anyone. The member has his remarks on the record. Can I remind members

:04:46. > :04:52.that members are allowed to be critical. I just do not get it. Why?

:04:53. > :04:59.One particular section of the community, somehow is to be elevated

:05:00. > :05:04.to this special status - this privileged position, where they are

:05:05. > :05:12.to be given for themselves some specific strategy that doesn't apply

:05:13. > :05:18.to anyone else. That is inequality. It is worth noting since devolution

:05:19. > :05:25.in 2007, not a single penny has come from them to support groups working

:05:26. > :05:28.with LGBT community and trying to help them to exercise their rights

:05:29. > :05:32.and to fight and to tackle discrimination. Not a single penny.

:05:33. > :05:39.I think that is an indictment of this Assembly and of OMFD. The

:05:40. > :05:45.motion was carried by 48-30. I am joined nour by the journalist --

:05:46. > :05:50.joined now by the journalist Gerry Millar. It seems the DUP,

:05:51. > :05:57.apparently, out of step with the other parties? The public are losing

:05:58. > :06:01.confidence. So much log jam. Mike Nesbitt pointed out one of the

:06:02. > :06:07.issues, one of the subjects held in the log jam is a way to solve the

:06:08. > :06:11.log-jam. It has gone on too long. As we know, some of the things

:06:12. > :06:19.mentioned today, the problems people are suffering, problems of hok

:06:20. > :06:24.phobic bullying or hate -- homophobic bullying or hate crimes.

:06:25. > :06:27.It may have taken place thousands of miles away, but the celebration of

:06:28. > :06:31.the life of Nelson Mandela today caused a bit of division in the

:06:32. > :06:36.House. Personally, I am surprised that maybe the First Minister or

:06:37. > :06:42.maybe a senior unionist is not going to the funeral. We know that peace

:06:43. > :06:45.talks were hosted in 1997. He was central to the peace process here.

:06:46. > :06:50.It is like an early Christmas present to Sinn Fein that they will

:06:51. > :06:54.take all the press attention with Martin McGuinness going.

:06:55. > :06:59.Let's hear from a member of the executive who was asked a question.

:07:00. > :07:02.He made it clear, he wanted answers to key questions about who was

:07:03. > :07:05.representing the executive and Northern Ireland in South Africa

:07:06. > :07:08.this week. Let's hear what he had to say. Many people, I think, across

:07:09. > :07:15.Northern Ireland will understandably feel it is not appropriate for the

:07:16. > :07:20.Deputy First Minister to attend alone, pro-purporting to represent

:07:21. > :07:25.-- purporting to represent Northern Ireland. I find myself sympathetic

:07:26. > :07:30.to that position, given we learn that Gerry Adams will attend, does

:07:31. > :07:36.not improve that situation. I am not aware whether the First Minister

:07:37. > :07:40.declined an invitation and whether he agreed to the Deputy First

:07:41. > :07:43.Minister representing or the people of Northern Ireland. Danny Kennedy,

:07:44. > :07:48.not a bit happy with how things worked out as far as the

:07:49. > :07:53.arrangements are concerned. What is your best guess as to how that

:07:54. > :07:57.situation came about? E-Prince Charles will be there. -- Prince

:07:58. > :08:01.Charles will be there. Sinn Fein officials will be there. I

:08:02. > :08:05.think it is a sort of event, if you can call it an' vent, a sad event,

:08:06. > :08:14.that your political leaders should be there. I am surprised. On the

:08:15. > :08:19.other hand, there is an argument you do the Pope and I do the Queen. They

:08:20. > :08:24.do divide certain duties among themselves, to whatever fits best.

:08:25. > :08:28.Interesting to see if we do get any more information about what exactly,

:08:29. > :08:32.how it worked out, the way it did. One last issue on the road racing

:08:33. > :08:37.bill, which we will see more about in just a moment. Showing MLAs can

:08:38. > :08:43.get things done when they put their minds to it. 24 days - an accelerate

:08:44. > :08:48.accelerated Bill, if you excuse the pun. The other thing I am amazed

:08:49. > :08:54.probably so few people sit and watch a real debate, but when you do, how

:08:55. > :08:57.pleasant, effective and how respectful everybody is.

:08:58. > :09:02.Particularly with members of the opposing political parties. It was

:09:03. > :09:05.very effective and how we want to see our politicians work. Thank you

:09:06. > :09:10.very much. The Assembly often comes in for criticism for the pace it

:09:11. > :09:14.works at. Today, our MLAs proved they can really get motoring when

:09:15. > :09:18.they want to. Just three weeks after it was introduced, the Road Racing

:09:19. > :09:24.Bill was passed. It will become law in March, in time for next year's

:09:25. > :09:28.Northwest 200. After an accelerated passage through the House. That yuz

:09:29. > :09:33.not to say there was -- that is not to say there was not some

:09:34. > :09:37.disagreement along the way. It has been integral to bring the bill to

:09:38. > :09:41.this stage. The key facet with us to bring it through the accelerated

:09:42. > :09:47.passage process in order that it would progress through the Assembly

:09:48. > :09:52.and receive Royal Assent before 31st March, 2014. This could not have

:09:53. > :09:58.happened without the support of the committee, who the minister must

:09:59. > :10:03.seek approval of, understanding order 42 and the support of this

:10:04. > :10:08.House when the motion on accelerated passage is debated. Consequence of

:10:09. > :10:15.approving the motion was that the committee stage was removed from the

:10:16. > :10:20.legislative process. This is, as I have said, integral to the passing

:10:21. > :10:27.of this Bill because it saved a significant time period. Meryvn

:10:28. > :10:33.White and his 800 colleagues who work on this deserved the outcome

:10:34. > :10:37.that they have got and most certainly if the process had been

:10:38. > :10:41.derailed, then they would not have deserved that. I am very, very

:10:42. > :10:45.happy. On this occasion, I am very happy to be a member of this

:10:46. > :10:51.Assembly because we've done something, absolutely positive,

:10:52. > :10:54.constructive. We operate the committee system and the way it

:10:55. > :11:00.should be. We've got the support of the minister who exercised extreme

:11:01. > :11:05.wisdom and how he handled it. I am very happy, Mr Speaker. The

:11:06. > :11:11.regional development committee not xablly known as the most overworked

:11:12. > :11:16.committee in the build building did drop the ball on this piece of

:11:17. > :11:23.legislation and it is quite obvious that it dropped the ball the very

:11:24. > :11:28.fact that the only real scrutiny this that Bill came under ended up

:11:29. > :11:33.come from these benches and especially from Mr McAllister. That

:11:34. > :11:39.was the only scrutiny that came. This Bill, Mr Speaker, would have

:11:40. > :11:44.gone through this House unamended. This Bill, in its final form, is not

:11:45. > :11:51.all I would have wished it to be. I would have wished its pro-decktion

:11:52. > :11:56.of -- protection of Sunday to be stronger. Undoubtedly it emerges

:11:57. > :12:05.through the processes of this House as a better Bill than what it

:12:06. > :12:10.entered as, by virtue of amendments made. And I am grateful to have had

:12:11. > :12:18.the opportunity to make some contribution to that and equally

:12:19. > :12:24.grateful that, for the evolution of support, which eventually made some

:12:25. > :12:28.of those changes possible. I welcome the fact and have no issue with the

:12:29. > :12:34.fact that the amendments that have been incorporated now into this bill

:12:35. > :12:40.I think will give comfort, particularly to both the member

:12:41. > :12:46.members of congregations and churches who exist on the course of

:12:47. > :12:50.the north-west 200 and indeed churchgoers in that general area.

:12:51. > :12:57.The Regional Development Minister, Danny Kennedy, welcoming the new

:12:58. > :13:02.road ras racing legislation. Ulster Bank has asked for a postponement to

:13:03. > :13:07.appear before computer problems. There was a briefing requested for

:13:08. > :13:13.tomorrow. The committee member Daithi McKay joins me now. Just to

:13:14. > :13:18.recap, that was another embarrassing episode for the Ulster Bank last

:13:19. > :13:21.week. It was. It has damaged their reputation once again. It is not

:13:22. > :13:24.something they want to see in the committee, not something the public

:13:25. > :13:29.want to see. The idea of inviting the bank to the committee was so the

:13:30. > :13:33.bank had an opportunity to provide some assurances to customers and to

:13:34. > :13:36.give us a rough idea of where they are going in terms of their IT

:13:37. > :13:40.system. There has been some indication that they are going to

:13:41. > :13:46.decouple some of the IT system from RBS. I believe that's the way to go

:13:47. > :13:49.and something that wants to be looked. Do you accept that when

:13:50. > :13:53.executives do appear in the New Year they will be better placed to answer

:13:54. > :13:58.some of the questions than they would have been if they appeared at

:13:59. > :14:02.such short notice? When it comes to that coming before committees this

:14:03. > :14:05.kind of excuse comes up again and again, when the Ulster Bank or any

:14:06. > :14:10.other witness is under pressure sometimes it is better to play it

:14:11. > :14:14.safe in terms of trying to postpone for a few weeks. I am disappointed

:14:15. > :14:19.they are not coming before the committee tomorrow. There is a

:14:20. > :14:22.history of some avoiding coming before committees. The Ulster Bank

:14:23. > :14:25.will have an opportunity to come before the committee to answer

:14:26. > :14:30.questions in relation to that. We also have time to prepare some other

:14:31. > :14:35.questions and to some very concerned in there and there is the Ulster

:14:36. > :14:39.Bank, the GRG, controversy that emerged a couple of weeks ago as

:14:40. > :14:44.well. Theish shoo u was debated in the -- the issue was debated last

:14:45. > :14:49.week. It was suggested the Ulster Bank could be separated from RBS. Is

:14:50. > :14:53.that something that should be looked at? Is that something your committee

:14:54. > :14:57.has a view on? Well, the committee would not have a view on that as

:14:58. > :15:02.yet. It is something we are concerned about and there is a

:15:03. > :15:07.variety of views with regards to the banks. I met with some business

:15:08. > :15:11.representatives today. They believe that banks, access to finance are

:15:12. > :15:16.some of the biggest issues facing the local economy here at the

:15:17. > :15:19.moment. It is in everyone's interest the Ulster Bank should get back to

:15:20. > :15:23.where it should be. Ultimately that is what we all want to see in the

:15:24. > :15:28.months and years ahead. Can I ask you about one final issue. You

:15:29. > :15:32.tabled a debate on the state of Ballymena bus and train station. Are

:15:33. > :15:37.facilities really that bad that they need to be discussed on the floor of

:15:38. > :15:42.the Assembly? Ballymena is the station that translink forgot. I use

:15:43. > :15:48.it on regular occasions. It has not been updated -- upgraded since 1981.

:15:49. > :15:54.Ballymena passengers there are entitled to a good service. First

:15:55. > :15:59.class, 21st century service. Ballymena, unfortunately has been

:16:00. > :16:02.left behind. It is up to the RD menster and translink to answer the

:16:03. > :16:06.question as to why it is the question. If it did not get a

:16:07. > :16:11.satisfactory answer from the minister there today. It is

:16:12. > :16:18.somethingly be pursuing in the near future. Daithi McKay, thank you. It

:16:19. > :16:24.has been a long time coming, but the Social Development Minster told the

:16:25. > :16:27.Assembly he hopes to bring the welfare Welform Reform Bill forward

:16:28. > :16:32.in the New Year. Before he discussed welfare reform,

:16:33. > :16:35.he faced a tough time over the Housing Executive. Mr Speaker, I

:16:36. > :16:40.acknowledge the minister's answer. It was a question about whether he

:16:41. > :16:46.had apologised or planned to apologise to the four contractors

:16:47. > :16:50.who he said had overcharged by an estimated ?18 million.

:16:51. > :16:57.If the minister is not going to apologise, could he give us an

:16:58. > :17:01.assessment of the damage both in finances and reputational to those

:17:02. > :17:07.four companies from quoting a figure, on 10th June, which he

:17:08. > :17:19.realises was wrong? I am not sure whether the member was

:17:20. > :17:25.actually listening to what I said. It may be necessary to repeat for

:17:26. > :17:28.his information the fact that the figure quoted initially was provided

:17:29. > :17:35.by the chair of the housing executive. The second figure was the

:17:36. > :17:43.figure quoted and produced in the report by Campbell Tacal. There is a

:17:44. > :17:46.piece of work still on going, whereby the contractors and the

:17:47. > :17:51.Housing Executive together need to come to a final figure as to the

:17:52. > :17:57.level of repayments that will be required. The question was and

:17:58. > :18:03.again, I find this difficult to deal with because the members don't seem

:18:04. > :18:13.to listen. There was nothing to apologise for and therefore there

:18:14. > :18:20.would not be an apology. We know from the report that it came with a

:18:21. > :18:26.very severe caveat because that report confirms that it was given as

:18:27. > :18:29.a broad-brush estimate in need of refinement as more evidence is

:18:30. > :18:37.generated. Why did the minister give no mention

:18:38. > :18:41.to that in his rush in this House to headline the ?18 million figure? I

:18:42. > :18:44.made it clear at the time this was p only an estimate. The fact is, and I

:18:45. > :18:52.have said this already this afternoon - it doesn't matter

:18:53. > :18:56.whether it is ?5 ?10 - when there are millions overpaid by the Housing

:18:57. > :19:00.Executive to housing contractors, any responsible person will firstly

:19:01. > :19:04.recognise it is a serious issue and any sensible person will recognise

:19:05. > :19:07.the minister in the relevant department has a responsibility to

:19:08. > :19:12.make it known to members of this aaccept be. There would have been

:19:13. > :19:18.cries from all quarters if there had not been a report like this T I did

:19:19. > :19:23.the right thing to make --. Like this. I did the right thing to make

:19:24. > :19:27.the information available. Does the minister believe the Welform Reform

:19:28. > :19:31.Bill would have made any progress before the end of the year?

:19:32. > :19:38.Considering the deadline of the New Year, when they said that the

:19:39. > :19:49.devolved situation here will have to face bills of ?5 million per month?

:19:50. > :19:53.At the last meeting of the xufive, oh -- executive, a meeting has been

:19:54. > :20:00.scheduled for 16th December. It really is a one-item agenda. I don't

:20:01. > :20:06.know what else there'll be on the agenda other than one item. That is,

:20:07. > :20:11.how do we move this forward. I hope we can make progress after that

:20:12. > :20:15.meeting next Monday. Given the Christmas recess, the earliest any

:20:16. > :20:19.Bill can be brought back to the executive for decision would be 16th

:20:20. > :20:25.January. If we meet that deadline, then I could expect the Bill to

:20:26. > :20:29.receive Royal Assent by March/early April.

:20:30. > :20:36.The Regional Development Minister, Danny Kennedy, was also on his feet

:20:37. > :20:43.today - bus passes for pensioners, rural transport and European money

:20:44. > :20:50.were on his agenda. Despite an extension being granted to do so

:20:51. > :20:54.presents the executive with a stark reality. That is simply, use it or

:20:55. > :20:59.lose it. The latter option must nt be allowed to happen -- must not be

:21:00. > :21:04.allowed to happen. That n that respect, my department

:21:05. > :21:08.has a proven track record in drawing down and spending out European

:21:09. > :21:17.funds. My department has recently been approach approached - they are

:21:18. > :21:22.trying to put it to in projects. The work of the enterprise would be, I

:21:23. > :21:27.suppose, the most significant, project that is potentially

:21:28. > :21:34.available to us. I am, however, aware of others and I believe there

:21:35. > :21:40.is a scheme being brought forward by the sthorts in the republic --

:21:41. > :21:43.authority in the Republic of Ireland.

:21:44. > :21:49.They will always have special significance to us here. Late

:21:50. > :21:53.lamented comedian James Young said, we won the battle, but they got the

:21:54. > :22:00.river. At least they are looking after us. Would the minister agree

:22:01. > :22:07.that in many rural areas a translink bus is as usual as an ice train if

:22:08. > :22:12.it is not linked with community transport. Is he satisfied with the

:22:13. > :22:17.level of co-operation to make the integration more complete? Better

:22:18. > :22:23.collaboration. Better integration of services because, you know, the

:22:24. > :22:28.rural community can, in many ways, be isolated. It is important that we

:22:29. > :22:36.make strenuous efforts to improve that and to en ensure that our

:22:37. > :22:41.public transport systems are not just urban-based or particular

:22:42. > :22:45.particularly Belfast-based. If the minister was listening to Radio

:22:46. > :22:51.Ulster this morning, he would have heard of the sincere worries from

:22:52. > :22:54.senior citizens to the threat of their senior smartcard. Will the

:22:55. > :23:00.minister support the hands-off campaign? Will he give a cat gor

:23:01. > :23:06.ribbing guarantee that the smartcard will remain, come high or hell

:23:07. > :23:13.water? Let me say, under my watch, let me be clear - under my watch - I

:23:14. > :23:17.don't intend to fundamentally overhaul the concessionary scheme

:23:18. > :23:22.that we have. Danny Kennedy lending his support to current arrangements.

:23:23. > :23:27.The Education Minister said both he and the Health Minister recognise

:23:28. > :23:31.the need for co-copration around special education. He was --

:23:32. > :23:38.co-operation around special education. The motion was tabled by

:23:39. > :23:42.the DUP. To tackle underachievement the earlier you tackle it in a

:23:43. > :23:49.child's development, the better it was for the child in the long-term.

:23:50. > :23:53.And the thing that really was very startling was you almost need to

:23:54. > :24:01.tackle it at birth. We know that a child from a socially disadvantaged

:24:02. > :24:08.background is more likely likely to not achieve. When I started in the

:24:09. > :24:15.committee, almost the first matter that I remember being discussed. Was

:24:16. > :24:20.early years. And that is now 20 months ago and we are still nowhere.

:24:21. > :24:24.We need the joined-up solution. We need a lead department. We need it

:24:25. > :24:30.for those with special education needs. I have a list of ten

:24:31. > :24:34.questions that were submitted to me by a parent. If I can raise a few of

:24:35. > :24:42.them. The parent that asked, why was my request for extra help on

:24:43. > :24:50.assessment denied for five years? Why was my child subjected to years

:24:51. > :24:55.of bullying, being called "stupid" and "thick" and other little girlsle

:24:56. > :25:00.would not let her -- girls would not let her join in with the play? Why

:25:01. > :25:06.was the special needs teacher allowed to teach the main capable

:25:07. > :25:11.children and hand my daughter paper and crayons and told her to sit

:25:12. > :25:19.quietly at the back of the classroom and colour in? In 2010, as a

:25:20. > :25:22.researcher for the MLA I Saturday in a party for children and young

:25:23. > :25:28.people and was presented with the strategy by an official. When I

:25:29. > :25:33.asked the question, what collaboration has been there been

:25:34. > :25:39.with the Department of Health? I was told this is a Department of

:25:40. > :25:45.Education strategy. Now, this was an early years strategy - 0-6. It meant

:25:46. > :25:50.it started at age three. It was a strategy that was going to miss out

:25:51. > :25:56.three years of the development of our children's lives. The questions

:25:57. > :26:02.posed by Mr Newton on behalf of a current - I can not validate the

:26:03. > :26:07.authenticity of the questions. You don't need to change the legislation

:26:08. > :26:11.to protect that child's rights T school in question is failing that

:26:12. > :26:16.child. Under skurnlt legislation. Snoo if he comes to speak to me

:26:17. > :26:24.privately and identifies the school to me, which he claims as allowing

:26:25. > :26:30.the child to be bullied in the playground and a teacher feels it is

:26:31. > :26:38.appropriate to exclude that child at seven, I can assure the member I

:26:39. > :26:42.will deal with that personally. That is unacceptable. That legislation

:26:43. > :26:45.has to be implemented on the ground. I believe that the Department of

:26:46. > :26:49.Health and the Department of Education are working very well

:26:50. > :26:53.together in relation to supporting our young people with special

:26:54. > :26:57.educational needs. Of course we can improve the services on the ground.

:26:58. > :27:02.When there are failings they need to be corrected. If it is the will of

:27:03. > :27:05.the House, as we are processing the same legislation to place a

:27:06. > :27:10.co-operation clause in the legislation and it is there for the

:27:11. > :27:15.benefits of young people, then I can assure they will not face any

:27:16. > :27:19.resistance from myself. Gerry Millar is with me once again. The last day

:27:20. > :27:24.of the Assembly today before the Christmas break. Some interesting

:27:25. > :27:28.performances? I think more than interesting performances. Very valid

:27:29. > :27:32.issues. Their were discussing how best to identify children with

:27:33. > :27:39.problems between the ages of 0-6. It is what we want a politician to do,

:27:40. > :27:43.to perfect legislation or solve it actually internally. One issue about

:27:44. > :27:47.that is it is unclear, I think the minister pointed it out, it is

:27:48. > :27:51.unclear whether it can be resolved by legislation or through better

:27:52. > :27:56.practise, or making better practise into common practise, which is what

:27:57. > :28:01.someone suggested today. It is great to see politicians spending hours

:28:02. > :28:06.debating these issues. Dr Haass is back in Belfast. He started to talk

:28:07. > :28:13.to the parties again. Do you expect he'll reach a resolution before the

:28:14. > :28:18.Christmas break? He discusses the most contention one and he seems to

:28:19. > :28:21.be making progress on it. We suspect our politicians will have to work

:28:22. > :28:25.over Christmas, which nobody is complaining about. I think a few

:28:26. > :28:31.journalists may have to as well. I think everyone needs a break.

:28:32. > :28:35.Deadlines here - nobody can stick to deadlines. I would not be surprised

:28:36. > :28:42.if Dr Haass were to stay over Christmas. Our politicians will take

:28:43. > :28:47.advantage of that. Thank you. That's it for tonight. We will be back for

:28:48. > :28:56.the first day of the new term on 13th January. Make a point for

:28:57. > :29:00.joining me for the View. Enjoy the of Christmas break. Goodbye.