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:00:25. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Hello

:00:27. > :01:21.They haven't gone away, you know. That was the message from the Ulster

:01:22. > :01:25.Unionist Ross Hussey as he condemned the attempted murder of a former

:01:26. > :01:29.police officer on Friday morning. The man discovered a bomb under his

:01:30. > :01:35.car as he was about to take his daughter to school.

:01:36. > :01:38.Myself and many members of this house have just returned from a

:01:39. > :01:43.service of commemoration for those who made the ultimate sacrifice in

:01:44. > :01:49.service to their Queen and country. But for the vigilance of a former

:01:50. > :01:54.officer, we could be remembering him here today as well. But if we look

:01:55. > :01:59.at the history of the car bomb and those who planted under car booby

:02:00. > :02:03.traps, we can see a direct link. We can see a direct link to the

:02:04. > :02:09.provisional IRA. And those that planted this bomb, in my opinion,

:02:10. > :02:14.have a directly to that organisation. Someone once said,

:02:15. > :02:17.they have not gone away, you know. I think it is quite clear they have

:02:18. > :02:25.not gone away and they are still here. And those who skulk around in

:02:26. > :02:29.the darkness, those who have evil in their hearts, they want to drag us

:02:30. > :02:34.back to those days when it was common to turn on your news bulletin

:02:35. > :02:39.and listen to incidents about bullets and bombs and murder and

:02:40. > :02:47.mayhem. But society is not going back there. There is no rhyme or

:02:48. > :02:52.reason, there is no logic that can start over an attack and in this

:02:53. > :02:57.case we have a man who has retired, who is trying to get on with his

:02:58. > :03:04.life, and people would perhaps still try and put out some sort of reason

:03:05. > :03:10.for this attack. There is no reason. This type of vicious attack has no

:03:11. > :03:15.place in our society going forward. This act of violence has little or

:03:16. > :03:22.nothing to do with any sort of meaningful politics or, dare I say

:03:23. > :03:25.it, republicanism. This attack was a couple of streets away from my own

:03:26. > :03:32.home. I came across the incident haven't done the school run myself.

:03:33. > :03:36.To target someone in this way in a built-up area with no consideration

:03:37. > :03:39.for wealth could have been injured is beyond contempt.

:03:40. > :03:42.Judith Cochrane of the Alliance Party adding her voice to the

:03:43. > :03:47.condemnation of Friday's attempted bomb attack. And joining me now is

:03:48. > :03:53.the commentator Alex Kane. Some pretty strong words from Ross Hussey

:03:54. > :03:58.and other Unionists in the chamber. It is interesting what he is saying.

:03:59. > :04:06.Is he saying the provisional IRA are involved? In which case, it is the

:04:07. > :04:12.provisional is linked to Sinn Fein. If it is the former, it raises very

:04:13. > :04:19.serious questions about the Ulster Unionists party and whether they

:04:20. > :04:28.should be sharing power with Sinn Fein. But he left that incredibly

:04:29. > :04:34.vague. What are you saying? He did not make the distinction. If he is

:04:35. > :04:39.saying the Provisionals have not gone away, it does ask huge

:04:40. > :04:44.questions. Is it part of a wider operation? And if he does believe

:04:45. > :04:50.that, what does it say about Ulster Unionists staying in power with Sinn

:04:51. > :04:56.Fein? I think it is a strange irony now that on one hand you have Ross

:04:57. > :05:02.Hussey saying it is the Provisionals who have not gone away but others

:05:03. > :05:06.saying they have gone away. But yet again, when they should be

:05:07. > :05:11.concentrating on the fact a police officer, a former police officer,

:05:12. > :05:14.his life could have been in danger, that yet again it became another

:05:15. > :05:22.peculiar type of point-scoring exercise. The Environment Minister

:05:23. > :05:25.appeared to rule out any national parks in Northern Ireland, certainly

:05:26. > :05:31.in the near future. That was a big issue of his predecessor Alex

:05:32. > :05:38.Attwood. Is this him stabbing his personal mark on the portfolio? This

:05:39. > :05:44.is the second time in a week. It was the planning Bill last week. I think

:05:45. > :05:48.he is saying, I make decision and I am not going to fritter around in

:05:49. > :05:53.the background. I think it is a stamp of authority and it is

:05:54. > :06:01.welcome. What does it mean to you, not scrapping it, just shelving it?

:06:02. > :06:10.I think it is dead. He may not even be the Minister. We will speak to

:06:11. > :06:16.you a bit later in the programme. Thank you very much.

:06:17. > :06:19.The Environment Minister Mark H Durkan has shelved a bill that would

:06:20. > :06:22.bring national parks to Northern Ireland. The decision came to light

:06:23. > :06:26.during Question Time today when planning was also on the agenda.

:06:27. > :06:36.The longest outstanding planning response is for application S 2007

:06:37. > :06:43.13720 which is for a mixed-use development. This consultation was

:06:44. > :06:49.issued on January 21, 2009 following an initial consultation with public

:06:50. > :06:57.health. I suspect that there are many other examples of three or four

:06:58. > :07:05.years delay for a response to consultations and this is actually

:07:06. > :07:10.coming up the planning system. The first minister believes there should

:07:11. > :07:15.be a requirement by other consul tees to respond within a specified

:07:16. > :07:27.time, otherwise it is assumed they have no comment to make. Thank you,

:07:28. > :07:35.Mr Speaker. As the previous Minister for the environment was only too

:07:36. > :07:38.aware how this works and how, in sadly, too many cases it does not

:07:39. > :07:50.work properly and it does not work fast enough. It is something I am

:07:51. > :07:56.looking very hard and very seriously at as we move towards moving the

:07:57. > :08:02.planning powers towards councils. It is something I will be aiming to

:08:03. > :08:06.pursue. National parks take this is a globally recognised brand and as a

:08:07. > :08:11.result is a key draw in attracting tourists and boosting the local

:08:12. > :08:17.economy. Furthermore, national parks also have a role in protecting and

:08:18. > :08:22.enhancing natural heritage. However, I am also aware of opposition to

:08:23. > :08:27.national parks in Northern Ireland and the concerns of Landover is --

:08:28. > :08:32.landowners over what designation might mean to them. Given the level

:08:33. > :08:42.of this opposition, I don't believe now is the correct time to proceed

:08:43. > :08:46.with national parks. Can he take it from someone who represents the area

:08:47. > :08:52.that there is widespread opposition to the creation of a national park.

:08:53. > :08:58.As one individual has described it, it is necessary, expensive and

:08:59. > :09:03.dictatorial. Will his department now work with the farming union in a way

:09:04. > :09:09.that is beneficial rather than something that would have been to

:09:10. > :09:14.the detriment. In my opinion, the result the opposition to national

:09:15. > :09:22.parks has been so strong and so by Severus is largely due to fear and

:09:23. > :09:26.fear of the unknown. My department will happily engage with the farming

:09:27. > :09:30.community but I think it is important we do so on the basis of

:09:31. > :09:35.building partnership working on the ground, not just the farming

:09:36. > :09:37.community but also with those in support of national parks and to

:09:38. > :09:44.recognise the value they can have two an area. It is important that

:09:45. > :09:50.this partnership approach is taken and that maybe, just maybe, sometime

:09:51. > :09:54.in the future, people's opposition might reduce. That is why I am not

:09:55. > :09:58.scrapping the national parks built but I am shelving it. Mark H Durkan

:09:59. > :10:02.explaining his decision not to proceed with plans to develop

:10:03. > :10:05.national parks here. The Enterprise Minister also faced

:10:06. > :10:09.questions today and she was asked how her department can help save the

:10:10. > :10:12.Exploris Aquarium in Portaferry. But first, Arlene Foster answered a

:10:13. > :10:18.question about the impact of potential loyalist flag protests in

:10:19. > :10:22.Belfast over Christmas. I think we have got to recognise

:10:23. > :10:27.that protests of any nature in the city centre will have an impact on

:10:28. > :10:30.trade, particularly if it is in and around the peak shopping times and

:10:31. > :10:35.therefore I will renew my call which I made the last time I was on my

:10:36. > :10:39.feet in this house during question time that there needs to be dialogue

:10:40. > :10:44.between those planning any protests and the people who are most rapidly

:10:45. > :10:50.affected. Can I thank the Minister for that reply. I am well aware of

:10:51. > :10:56.the previous comments on that but in light of that, can I ask her whether

:10:57. > :10:59.she has managed to have any contact with the protest organisers, more

:11:00. > :11:04.particularly the retailers themselves to discuss the matter? I

:11:05. > :11:10.have been speaking to the retailers throughout the original protest

:11:11. > :11:17.time. He will realise it was my department who took the lead in the

:11:18. > :11:21.Belfast campaign which was hugely successful and very much appreciated

:11:22. > :11:27.by not only the traders but the restaurant owners and bar owners in

:11:28. > :11:30.Belfast. In relation to the difficulties in the local economy,

:11:31. > :11:35.can the Minister advisers the much promised peace dividend, is that of

:11:36. > :11:42.the table from the British government? No, I think the member

:11:43. > :11:48.is aware of the economic pact which we are seeing developed and just

:11:49. > :11:53.last week I attended a seminar in London with the Secretary of State,

:11:54. > :11:57.jointly hosted by both of us, and at that event we hosted 16 regions and

:11:58. > :12:01.countries from around the world where we see opportunities and that

:12:02. > :12:07.was carried out in Lancaster house in London so I don't accept that the

:12:08. > :12:12.much vaunted, to use his words, peace dividend has gone. I think our

:12:13. > :12:15.national government are very much alongside us in trying to sell

:12:16. > :12:21.Northern Ireland is a good place to do business. If I called back to you

:12:22. > :12:25.the words of the Prime Minister from October when he said that Northern

:12:26. > :12:29.Ireland was a spectacular place to do business, I think those are very

:12:30. > :12:36.strong words from the Prime Minister. I had a very good meeting

:12:37. > :12:39.with Jim Shannon Empey on October 23 when I confirmed that the Northern

:12:40. > :12:58.Ireland tourist board has provided over 1.8 million since 1991 -- Jim

:12:59. > :13:01.Shannon Empey. While there is currently no financial support

:13:02. > :13:06.available to help explore both the tourist board and invest Northern

:13:07. > :13:09.Ireland are available to work with the Council on marketing activity

:13:10. > :13:22.and business planning to increase the commission 30 of the project.

:13:23. > :13:31.Ness Requiring executive support? Well as I indicated to the previous

:13:32. > :13:34.question, I await any proposals in relation to the issue, I

:13:35. > :13:38.particularly await to see the commerciality of the proposals and

:13:39. > :13:44.the sustainability for the future. Any of us want to make sure that

:13:45. > :13:48.Exploris gets the stay of execution lifted but we want to see it lifted

:13:49. > :13:52.not to come back on another day, we want to make sure that any saving of

:13:53. > :13:58.Exploris will make sure that it lasts into the future. Therefore,

:13:59. > :14:02.there is a need for it for it to be commercial and not non-ing the

:14:03. > :14:07.status quo. The important thing here is that if we are able to help and

:14:08. > :14:11.assist Exploris we will do so in a way that will make it commercially

:14:12. > :14:15.viable and sustainable into the future, so it does not have to keep

:14:16. > :14:20.relying on public funds into the longer term.

:14:21. > :14:23.The culture arts and leisure men stir has welcome add report looking

:14:24. > :14:27.at gaps in child protection in safeguarding across the sector.

:14:28. > :14:31.Bringing the motion to the chamber the DUP's Michelle McIlveen who

:14:32. > :14:36.chaired the committee said members hope highlighting best practise will

:14:37. > :14:42.bridge provement Protection and safeguarding standards the KPS have

:14:43. > :14:46.helped establish have taken considerable effort to achieve.

:14:47. > :14:50.These standards represent best practise which can be used to

:14:51. > :14:54.identify gaps and remedy them in other sector, the committee was

:14:55. > :14:59.conscious in this investigation of the individuals and groups which are

:15:00. > :15:03.privately and outside the system. Particularly self-employed persons.

:15:04. > :15:07.They are not part of the regulation process, and the commit -- committee

:15:08. > :15:12.believes efforts must be made to reach out to them. In has been a

:15:13. > :15:15.valuable exercise and the committee was impressed by the work many

:15:16. > :15:19.organisations have been involved in, to ensure they are fulfilling

:15:20. > :15:22.responsibilities. A notable aspect has been an

:15:23. > :15:26.involving back down drop to that work which continued to inform the

:15:27. > :15:32.committee on the importance of developing policy in this area. It

:15:33. > :15:36.illustrated the serious and complex nature of safeguarding children and

:15:37. > :15:40.vulnerable people. That backdrop, Mr Speaker has been the revelations of

:15:41. > :15:44.instances of abuse by celebrity, which was visited on young

:15:45. > :15:51.vulnerable people over many decade, most notable of which was the Savile

:15:52. > :15:53.case. Sum examples had the effect of clarifying and emphasising the

:15:54. > :15:56.absolute requirement for establishing best practise in all

:15:57. > :16:02.case, where people are involved in work or leisure, that brings them

:16:03. > :16:06.into contact with children or any vulnerable person. The investigation

:16:07. > :16:15.identified some arm length bodies do have child protection policies and

:16:16. > :16:19.procedures. Others have policies in place, many groups and Private

:16:20. > :16:22.Tutors do not have policies in place.

:16:23. > :16:26.It has been identified that many group or private tutors have

:16:27. > :16:31.received no advice or guidance on how to effectively deal with child

:16:32. > :16:37.protection. 36 I want to raise a concern from a constituent of mine,

:16:38. > :16:41.who is a volunteer with a sports club.

:16:42. > :16:45.While he fully acknowledges the importance of knowledge for

:16:46. > :16:52.volunteer, and he himself has completed all the necessary training

:16:53. > :16:58.courses, he is concerned that some organisations, including some sports

:16:59. > :17:03.governing bodies, are refusing to recognise the generic keeping

:17:04. > :17:09.children safe course. As a BB officer and a member of the

:17:10. > :17:13.Carrickfergus drugs advisory group I had to go through two different sets

:17:14. > :17:18.is of assessment, just adds many others have to, and it does seem to

:17:19. > :17:22.be bureaucratic, having been cleared, that even perhaps within

:17:23. > :17:27.weeks you would have to submit another fresh application, when the

:17:28. > :17:31.same criteria is assessed, and assessment of someone's suitability

:17:32. > :17:34.is determined, particularly if you look at self-employed persons who

:17:35. > :17:38.maybe working in this arts sector, they may have to go through

:17:39. > :17:43.clearance with each individual group they may be working with. I do

:17:44. > :17:46.believe this is one of the most significant reports coming through,

:17:47. > :17:50.I believe that the proebbing theion of children and young people --

:17:51. > :17:54.protection of children and individuals who are vulnerable is

:17:55. > :18:01.something we can't do enough of, and rather than just using words, I am

:18:02. > :18:05.really excited about the potential that we collectively across the

:18:06. > :18:11.executive can close gap, implement where possible the committee report,

:18:12. > :18:14.perhaps even strengthen where possible recommendation but I will

:18:15. > :18:17.be bringing this back in early January with a detailed response.

:18:18. > :18:21.The Culture Minister accepting the recommendation of a report from her

:18:22. > :18:25.committee on child protection. Now there were 4,000 reasons for one

:18:26. > :18:29.piece of Assembly business today. The MLAs were quick out the starting

:18:30. > :18:33.gate to pay tribute to one of Northern Ireland's finest sportsmen

:18:34. > :18:39.coy and his latest remarkable achievement. -- Tony McCoy. He has

:18:40. > :18:44.been 20 years at the top, 18 years consecutively champion jockey. He

:18:45. > :18:50.has won and many of you will know this the Grand National. The Gold

:18:51. > :18:58.Cup. Scottish Grand National Irish Grand National, Galloway Plate. He

:18:59. > :19:05.is a phenomenon. He has brought great honour area, we have heard

:19:06. > :19:11.where other sports people have been honoured but I think Tony McCoy is a

:19:12. > :19:15.fairly modest quiet gentle man, unassuming. He represents all that

:19:16. > :19:24.is positive and solid about our people. I think across the piece,

:19:25. > :19:29.Tony McCoy represents how people can overcome adversity, how people can

:19:30. > :19:35.succeed, it does require hard work, it does require diligence, it does

:19:36. > :19:39.require iron will and I think that he represents all of that. His place

:19:40. > :19:44.in the Irish and international sporting history was assured long

:19:45. > :19:50.ago, and his achievement continue to be an inspiration for us all. The

:19:51. > :19:53.SDLP are backing the call by our councillor Thomas Burns for a stat

:19:54. > :19:58.stew of Tony McCoy to be erected, that would stand proudly, reflecting

:19:59. > :20:04.the horse racing history, this local hero has made. I like others before

:20:05. > :20:08.me wish to congratulate the achievement of AP McCoy, and

:20:09. > :20:14.particularly on his fantastic record for horse racing, he has, Mr

:20:15. > :20:17.Speaker, been a tremendous sportsman and ambassador for Northern Ireland

:20:18. > :20:28.and he joins with the host of other sporting icons that have come from.

:20:29. > :20:33.The alliance MLA Kieran McCarthy: He wasn't the only MLA to highlight

:20:34. > :20:37.sporting prowess. Danny Kinahan wants to see a sporting Hall of Fame

:20:38. > :20:42.set up and he is with me now. The idea of some kind of sporting

:20:43. > :20:46.haul of -- Hall of Fame or museum has been in the mix for a while. Do

:20:47. > :20:50.you think it is gaining traction? I don't, that is why I raised it

:20:51. > :20:54.today. I want the see one, we need to have the will, we need to get the

:20:55. > :20:59.department's concerned to set a team up who look at how can you do it,

:21:00. > :21:02.how can we make something that pays for itself, and best of all sells

:21:03. > :21:04.what is the best of Northern Ireland.

:21:05. > :21:09.You say that you don't think it is gaining traction at this stage, but

:21:10. > :21:13.there are some pretty high profile backers of the plan. You wonder why

:21:14. > :21:17.it hasn't happened? Everything is sitting here, we had the Olympics

:21:18. > :21:22.last year and we were meant to on the back of that. You have Mary

:21:23. > :21:27.preerts, Lord Glentoran, there are so many people who have been star f

:21:28. > :21:31.you have the modern technology, surely we can make something that is

:21:32. > :21:35.great fun and works. Mary Peters is a big supporter. Phenomenally big

:21:36. > :21:42.supporter, there are a lot more behind her, if any of us look at our

:21:43. > :21:45.dreams of who our is parting heroes are, there are so many there,

:21:46. > :21:48.whether it is the film, the kit or the equipment, there is just so many

:21:49. > :21:51.question -- much we can do and the rest of the world would flock here

:21:52. > :21:56.to see it. That is the interesting thing. There is a very large list of

:21:57. > :21:59.names, that would have international appeal and then there is a larger

:22:00. > :22:03.list of names that would have appeal to people in this part of the world.

:22:04. > :22:08.Do you think it would be enough in itself to bring people from outside

:22:09. > :22:11.Northern Ireland to see a haul of First Minister like that I do. If

:22:12. > :22:16.you think of Rory McIlroy and our golfers and the Americans coming

:22:17. > :22:21.here to see the Titanic, you have to sit down and work out how you market

:22:22. > :22:25.it, and our our tourists from within Northern Ireland will help it pay.

:22:26. > :22:31.You mention Titanic, do you see two things being some kind of parallel

:22:32. > :22:36.attraction or would you look at other possible sites like Maze Long

:22:37. > :22:40.Kesh, is that the kind of thing you would like to see dropped The

:22:41. > :22:46.Titanic centre is the obvious one. Let us have a building that works

:22:47. > :22:51.it, transport is easy and let us get it near the airports and make it

:22:52. > :22:55.work. You raised the question today with the Enterprise Minister, she

:22:56. > :23:02.didn't support your idea but she didn't rule it out either I spoke to

:23:03. > :23:07.her after and she said it Hazard to work commercially. The Titanic

:23:08. > :23:11.centre was condemned a bit but it has worked well. Let us get a team

:23:12. > :23:15.to look at it, to make it work, rather than got not sure it is work.

:23:16. > :23:18.Government would have to take lead. This would cost money, you are

:23:19. > :23:23.talking of tens of millions of ? think so. But you think you have to

:23:24. > :23:26.speculate to accumulate, is that the thing? You have to take the risk to

:23:27. > :23:31.get there. If you put the right people in charge they will find way

:23:32. > :23:36.of making money. What happens next? It is been on the table for a long

:23:37. > :23:42.time and hasn't gained traction, how do you convert that into movement?

:23:43. > :23:46.Go back to Arlene and see if we can have a team, let us get Mary Peters

:23:47. > :23:52.and the other team working with it, and fine a way of doing it. OK. Keep

:23:53. > :23:55.us in touch with development. Thank you very much for coming in. The

:23:56. > :23:59.British Medical Association has said there is a need for the Health

:24:00. > :24:02.Service to prioritise patient from Northern Ireland. Dr Tom Black was

:24:03. > :24:06.giving evidence to the health committee on the implementation of

:24:07. > :24:10.the EU cross border health directive to. He said general practise is

:24:11. > :24:15.under considerable pressure. We recognise we have a duty of care

:24:16. > :24:20.to deal with immediately necessary and emergency situations for

:24:21. > :24:25.patients who aren't our usual patients.

:24:26. > :24:30.We see this as continuing. However, as GPs for the population

:24:31. > :24:35.in Northern Ireland, we feel that we need to prioritise the needs of our

:24:36. > :24:40.present population, the 1.91 million patients under our care, and

:24:41. > :24:42.prioritise their care and immediately necessary emergency care

:24:43. > :24:50.within that. . We need to accommodate too, the EU

:24:51. > :24:54.directive. But we would see ourselves as restricting any

:24:55. > :24:58.services to essential service and using cost as a hurdle to limit

:24:59. > :25:05.demand in that respect. When we looked at the directive, it

:25:06. > :25:11.wasn't very clear in relation to things like... Services where, we

:25:12. > :25:15.talked about directive talked about visitors being able to access things

:25:16. > :25:21.like essential medical service, it wasn't clear what that meant. We

:25:22. > :25:26.felt given the unique situation that we have here, in the north in

:25:27. > :25:31.relation to our land border, there was a need to look at the directive,

:25:32. > :25:36.certainly, and I don't think anybody suggests it is not worthwhile do

:25:37. > :25:40.that, but I think there are very genuine practical workings out of

:25:41. > :25:45.this, I would be interested in your views, the definition of essential

:25:46. > :25:49.medical service, how it is defined and practically how it is

:25:50. > :25:56.administered? Essential medical services, and it a long definition,

:25:57. > :26:00.but it is those who are sick or perceive themselves to be unwell.

:26:01. > :26:05.Additional services which is what we hope to exclude is things like

:26:06. > :26:11.smear, maternity service, things that are more routine, that to

:26:12. > :26:16.achieve quality of care, you would need continuity of care. So there is

:26:17. > :26:22.no point in me doing your smear, I should know what the last one was

:26:23. > :26:26.and I should make sure I do your next one. So additional services

:26:27. > :26:32.would be those extra service, childhood vaccination, you shouldn't

:26:33. > :26:39.bring your child to me to to be vaccinated if I am not your previous

:26:40. > :26:44.doctor. I need to make sure you get your full continuity of care. I have

:26:45. > :26:50.got 7,000 patients in my practise with four doctors and we are snowed

:26:51. > :26:57.under, the last thing I need is to look after other people's patients.

:26:58. > :27:00.So that is, I would say the proposals from the department as

:27:01. > :27:06.continuing that situation. -- see. If they are sick on the day in Derry

:27:07. > :27:11.I will see them. If they want a treen appointment see your doctor.

:27:12. > :27:18.Now, Alex Kane has rejoined me. There is some sad news which is

:27:19. > :27:21.breaking, the form former slpt MP for South Down Eddie McGrady has

:27:22. > :27:27.died. You had encountered him a lot down the year, what your memories of

:27:28. > :27:31.him I encountered him when Iised to work with Enoch Powell, so I bumped

:27:32. > :27:35.into him a few times during election periods. I have to say, people say

:27:36. > :27:41.you are just saying this now, after he died but he was one of the

:27:42. > :27:47.NICest, a gentle man, a truly gentle man, didn't bear grudge, we would

:27:48. > :27:54.chat about things were going, at ease all the time. And a very reex

:27:55. > :27:59.leaked likeable guy. The key was he fought that seat over and over and

:28:00. > :28:07.over again. Never expecting to it but finally did. He won it, as you

:28:08. > :28:13.say, fourth attempt in 1987. Interesting his party leader said,

:28:14. > :28:18.not a sectarian bone in his body, he was popular way beyond the slpt Yes,

:28:19. > :28:22.place like Newcastle when he would walk along the front. People would

:28:23. > :28:26.come up to him. I never heard anyone say any nasty about him. OK. We

:28:27. > :28:37.leave it there. Thank you have much. That is it for tonight. Join me for

:28:38. > :28:39.another Stormont Today at the same time. Thank you for watching. GB.