:00:27. > :00:29.Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Coming up in the next 30 minutes -
:00:30. > :00:38.the gloves are off as MLAs discuss allegations of sectarianism in
:00:38. > :00:48.boxing. I do not think children in any sport should be subject to that
:00:48. > :01:00.
:01:00. > :01:04.sort of abuse. It is ugly, horrible and wrong. And with a ringside seat
:01:05. > :01:07.our Political Reporter Stephen Walker joins me with his insight.
:01:08. > :01:09.A motion calling for the formation of a new Northern Ireland Amateur
:01:10. > :01:14.Boxing Association separate from the existing all-Ireland governing
:01:14. > :01:16.body was passed in the Stormont chamber this afternoon. The debate
:01:16. > :01:26.was conducted against the backdrop of an ongoing stand-off between the
:01:26. > :01:28.
:01:28. > :01:33.Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure and Sandy Row Boxing Club.
:01:33. > :01:37.They are poor at accessing funding and lack of facilities exacerbates
:01:37. > :01:42.this was that one of the problems could be foreseen is given the
:01:42. > :01:45.dominance of one community, it will entrench the situation. There needs
:01:45. > :01:50.to be promotion and encouragement of the sport in Protestant areas,
:01:50. > :01:53.in working-class areas. There's a perception of the money will go
:01:54. > :01:58.into the north and west of Belfast. She needs to demonstrate she acts
:01:58. > :02:05.for all of Northern Ireland, there are issues around sectarianism in
:02:05. > :02:08.the sport whether we admitted or not. The minister needs to
:02:09. > :02:13.demonstrate the processes are there to ensure sectarianism has been
:02:13. > :02:18.taken out of the sport and everyone participating is free from
:02:18. > :02:24.intimidation and harassment. Could I come to what I think is the long-
:02:24. > :02:30.term important issue. That of how boxing should be organised. In
:02:30. > :02:38.boxing, as in other sports in Northern Ireland, if you are big
:02:38. > :02:41.participant who wishes to box for the UK because you regard that as
:02:41. > :02:50.the country of your birth, and the country of your allegiance, you
:02:50. > :02:55.cannot do it. Because the recognition is given only to the
:02:55. > :03:03.Irish Amateur Boxing Association. We have clubs in premises not fit
:03:03. > :03:09.for use the stock we visited clubs who have newspaper stuffed in the
:03:09. > :03:13.Sealink to keep the snow out while they were training for boxing. I
:03:13. > :03:18.plead with those in charge to move with a haste to ensure it is
:03:18. > :03:21.delivered fairly across all sections of the committee but also
:03:21. > :03:28.simplify the process and make it accessible to every club, even
:03:28. > :03:33.those with limited capability. Boxing is a poor infrastructure.
:03:33. > :03:38.The money is to be welcomed. We have to look at the issue of the
:03:38. > :03:48.boxing club because members are aware I represent the area and have
:03:48. > :03:52.close knowledge of it and the challenges they face. Challenges in
:03:52. > :03:59.terms of repeated instances of discrimination, sectarianism
:03:59. > :04:07.against the club and members. We have fish issue of an All Ireland
:04:07. > :04:12.Boxing Organisation which appears to be a cold house for Protestants
:04:12. > :04:16.boxing. It is the responsibility and if they're not prepared to
:04:16. > :04:23.address a, there are other remedies as far as the fraternity is
:04:23. > :04:28.concerned, for example the club has been is affiliated on the grounds
:04:28. > :04:37.that they don't have proper access and Northern Ireland clearance but
:04:37. > :04:42.they do and can prove they do. have endured 10 years of
:04:42. > :04:48.sectarianism. I am puzzled why the issue has not been raised with
:04:48. > :04:53.previous culture ministers and now it is raised when we have a Sinn
:04:53. > :05:02.Fein culture minister. A member of this house calls for a separate
:05:02. > :05:09.Boxing Association but I feel this to be a mistake. As we know, soccer
:05:09. > :05:16.is notorious for sectarianism... Which has dogged it over the
:05:16. > :05:21.decades. The supporters are recognised as the best in Europe
:05:21. > :05:26.and they're not sectarianism. Sectarianism and raised his head,
:05:26. > :05:32.we need to challenge it, confronted and challenge it and condemn it and
:05:32. > :05:37.resolve it. We need to move on. I am not ignoring the facts there was
:05:37. > :05:42.insolence and allegations still around what happened. In fact, I am
:05:42. > :05:46.on a record as condemning it and I'll do it again. I do not think
:05:46. > :05:52.children involved in any sport including boxing should be subject
:05:52. > :05:56.to that sort of abuse. It's ugly, horrible and it is wrong. I want it
:05:56. > :06:01.to beat the affiliates with the Amateur Boxing Association. I
:06:01. > :06:04.warned them to do that and what's more the boxing family want them to
:06:04. > :06:08.do that because it's good for the support -- good for the sport. If
:06:08. > :06:16.it wants to create its own affiliation it is up to them. It is
:06:16. > :06:21.up to them. The criteria mentioned, it does not exclude. Sunday row has
:06:21. > :06:24.been affiliated to the Irish Amateur Boxing Association so they
:06:24. > :06:27.are entitled to an expression of interest. The Sports Minister,
:06:27. > :06:30.Caral ni Chuilin. That amended motion calling for the formation of
:06:30. > :06:33.a new Northern Ireland Amateur Boxing Association was passed with
:06:33. > :06:38.48 votes in favour and 42 against. Our Political Reporter, Stephen
:06:38. > :06:47.Walker, is with me. Let's talk about that boxing debate first,
:06:47. > :06:52.Stephen. Anelays took up traditional positions. -- MLA plu
:06:52. > :06:57.Mac at. Yes, we've heard many of the arguments before the start
:06:57. > :07:01.they've been well documented in the press and newspapers. And
:07:01. > :07:06.particularly surrounding this particular club and sectarianism.
:07:06. > :07:10.The major development tonight is the motion supporting the
:07:10. > :07:14.establishment of a Northern Ireland Boxing Association which is a major
:07:14. > :07:17.development was the sports minister said if the club wanted to
:07:17. > :07:21.affiliate to their association she would not have a problem with that
:07:21. > :07:25.but it's clip from listening to the debate there are real concerns over
:07:25. > :07:31.the issue of funding and that was something people came back to time
:07:31. > :07:35.and time again and on the issue of funding, it was made clear she
:07:35. > :07:42.feels boxing does have a history of underfunding and it's an issue she
:07:42. > :07:48.says she is keen to address. other issue in the chamber, the
:07:48. > :07:54.allocation of funding was subject to interesting discussion. It was.
:07:54. > :08:00.This relates to an announcement made last Wednesday night talking
:08:00. > :08:08.about economic measures and the leader was concerned about the way
:08:08. > :08:12.the measures were announced. Why is it that once more last week this
:08:12. > :08:18.executive make an announcement that was billed as a key economic
:08:18. > :08:25.announcement, not to this House but to the media. Is there nothing
:08:25. > :08:32.further you can do to curb to the office contents this executive has
:08:33. > :08:39.for this house? I thank him for his point of order. This is an issue I
:08:39. > :08:47.can assure him I raised continually with the executive. I also have put
:08:47. > :08:53.a letter to bit ministers on the issue as well. -- to the ministers.
:08:53. > :09:01.I say to the whole House this is an issue for the ministers and for the
:09:01. > :09:06.executive, I always encourage ministers to come to his house with
:09:06. > :09:10.statements of importance but it is up for the ministers to decide what
:09:10. > :09:16.statements are important and what are not. I do have some sympathy
:09:16. > :09:25.with the member on the point of order that his raised but these
:09:25. > :09:30.issues lie with the executive. Those are the views of the speaker
:09:30. > :09:34.responding to a question from Jim Allister. What's interesting about
:09:34. > :09:38.funding is some people will be pleased if their pet projects get
:09:38. > :09:43.money, others will be disappointed if money is taken away from their
:09:43. > :09:49.projects. The danger is if some of the money is not spent, it will be
:09:49. > :09:54.returned to the Treasury, one example is the building project on
:09:54. > :10:00.the A five. There was concern it could cost executive millions of
:10:00. > :10:03.lost funds by the end of the year the project does not go ahead. This
:10:03. > :10:06.is high economic stakes. Stephen, for the moment thank you.
:10:06. > :10:08.Well, the Finance Minister picked up on that point made by Mr
:10:08. > :10:15.Allister, telling the House he's not afraid of scrutiny. Here's
:10:15. > :10:20.Sammy Wilson outlining the detail of the budget realignment measures.
:10:20. > :10:25.I am happy to make statements to the House and have then queried by
:10:25. > :10:29.members. I do not think there's any intention of running away from the
:10:29. > :10:34.scrutiny of members of this house when it comes to announcements
:10:34. > :10:38.which need to be made and I look forward to the scrutiny of the
:10:38. > :10:43.members who are in the House today to take the transforming your care
:10:43. > :10:48.reform programme. This will not only transform the way it had
:10:48. > :10:53.services are delivered to the benefits of citizens but will also
:10:53. > :10:59.benefits of citizens but will also realise savings. The recurrent
:10:59. > :11:06.savings from 2014/15 onwards and this is per year are estimated at
:11:06. > :11:11.nearly �26 million. It represents a good return on this investment.
:11:11. > :11:14.There's some �6.4 million of resource funding left on -- and
:11:14. > :11:21.allocated because the remaining bids did not meet the requirements
:11:21. > :11:26.of the scheme. This funding was then made available for
:11:26. > :11:34.reallocation and it transpired there are significant delays in the
:11:34. > :11:42.delivery of the road schemes. The delay has been most acute in
:11:42. > :11:46.relation to the A five. The delay has resulted in an easement of
:11:46. > :11:51.reach of development of a �31 million and in this financial year
:11:51. > :11:55.and the executive agreed this would be managed by allowing the
:11:55. > :12:04.department to reallocate internally to other areas on the condition
:12:04. > :12:09.that this funding would be returned to the road schemes in 2013/14 and
:12:09. > :12:15.2014/15. The funding will be used to accelerate wrote structural
:12:16. > :12:21.maintenance and Northern Ireland projects. The delay has been caused
:12:21. > :12:26.by legal action being taken and the issue remains unresolved and for
:12:26. > :12:32.each month that passes, they will be an easement of �10 million which
:12:32. > :12:35.means they could be up to an additional �50 million a returning
:12:36. > :12:45.to the centre in this Bernacchi efforts of my officials carried out
:12:46. > :12:46.
:12:46. > :12:51.an analysis of under Spencer -- and the... There was scope for
:12:51. > :12:56.departments to surrender funding in the period 2013/15. It's important
:12:56. > :13:02.for members to recognise in overall terms the spending performance in
:13:02. > :13:06.2011/12 was good. The reduced requirements so rented by it
:13:06. > :13:16.departments were greater than expected and successfully utilised
:13:16. > :13:17.
:13:17. > :13:21.Meaney the underspend fell with in Do you believe that all departments
:13:21. > :13:27.have declared their requirements at this stage and how confident are
:13:27. > :13:31.you that a larger level reduced requirements were not present
:13:31. > :13:36.themselves in generate? If there is likely to be an underspend, don't
:13:36. > :13:40.leave it to the last moment because we do not have the flexibility that
:13:40. > :13:44.we used to have in previous years, albeit we have negotiated some
:13:44. > :13:49.flexibility. We do not have the open-ended flexibility that we had
:13:49. > :13:54.in previous years to carry money forward. When we make announcements
:13:54. > :13:58.which carry genuine effort by the Executive, to try and improve the
:13:58. > :14:03.situation, I just find it intolerable that the first thing
:14:03. > :14:08.that some of the commentators in Northern Ireland do is pick over it,
:14:08. > :14:12.to see what bad news they can get out of it, rather than present it
:14:12. > :14:15.as positive work for this Assembly. There are times we get things wrong
:14:15. > :14:22.and deserve to be beaten for it but when we get things right we deserve
:14:22. > :14:26.a credit. On that note, when people do get things right, they deserve a
:14:26. > :14:31.bit of credit and I wonder if the minister would agree with me that
:14:31. > :14:37.John O'Dowd and indeed previous education ministers fought very
:14:37. > :14:43.hard, very, very hard for funding for building of schools and also
:14:43. > :14:46.schools are States. I know old habits die hard but I wonder if the
:14:46. > :14:51.minister of woke up this morning thinking how am are going to get at
:14:51. > :14:54.Sinn Fein today? That is what it feels like on this side of the
:14:54. > :14:59.house. I am coming to my question. Would the Minister agree with me
:14:59. > :15:04.that the money secured by John O'Dowd for maintenance is money
:15:04. > :15:07.very important for the schools estate? I have got to say, I am
:15:07. > :15:11.surprised that the member's response because if she thinks I
:15:11. > :15:16.wake up in the morning and think how can I get at Sinn Fein today,
:15:16. > :15:21.she must think that I lead a very sad life! If one looks at the
:15:21. > :15:25.statement, I have a funny way of getting that Sinn Fein. There are
:15:25. > :15:29.�130 million worth of getting at Sinn Fein and the Education
:15:29. > :15:33.Minister in the statement because there is �90 million directly for
:15:33. > :15:41.schools budget, there is �10 million for capital investment next
:15:41. > :15:45.year, for schools maintenance, there is money for schools
:15:45. > :15:51.maintenance in this particular year and it all amounts to, I cannot
:15:51. > :15:56.quickly add it up but it amounts to well over �120 million. I do not
:15:56. > :16:01.think that the member can honestly say that I look at ways of getting
:16:02. > :16:09.at Sinn Fein. Can I say this to the House, I do have my difficulties
:16:09. > :16:13.with some Sinn Fein members. And ministers as well. But judgments
:16:13. > :16:17.will not be made and let me emphasise, Mr Speaker, judgments
:16:17. > :16:22.will not be made on the basis of whether I get on with the minister
:16:22. > :16:26.or do not get on with the minister. Judgments will be made on the basis
:16:26. > :16:31.of do we have money, is there a problem, has the Minister presented
:16:31. > :16:37.that problem and made a case to justify needing extra money? If he
:16:37. > :16:40.or she does, I do not care what party they come from.
:16:40. > :16:43.The Finance Minister, Sammy Wilson. Following the murder of David Black,
:16:43. > :16:47.the Justice Minister David Ford, told his fellow MLAs there has been
:16:47. > :16:50.a review into the security of prison officers. But first, here is
:16:50. > :16:52.Mr Ford answering questions on the reopening of a hostel for ex-
:16:52. > :17:01.prisoners, including sex offenders, in a residential area of north
:17:01. > :17:05.Belfast. Is the Minister aware of widespread
:17:05. > :17:11.concern in the community in relation to his decision to house X
:17:11. > :17:17.sex offenders at Thomson House. Given the fact that there are well
:17:17. > :17:21.over 2000 school children who use the Antrim Road at that area, going
:17:21. > :17:29.to and from school during the course of the day, would the
:17:29. > :17:33.Minister accept that he should reflect on this and review the
:17:33. > :17:38.decision with a view to at least creating a moratorium on the
:17:38. > :17:42.reintroduction of X sex offenders so that the Community could at
:17:42. > :17:49.least have an opportunity to see how the situation might develop in
:17:49. > :17:54.the future? Well, if that Mr McGuinness for that point but when
:17:54. > :17:59.he refers to my decision, it is not my decision. Thompson house has
:17:59. > :18:02.been accommodating offenders for 30 years, many of whom have been sex
:18:02. > :18:07.offenders during that time. During that time there has been no
:18:07. > :18:15.incident involving any child in the immediate area of Thomson House, by
:18:15. > :18:21.a resident of Thomson House. The practical reality is the best
:18:21. > :18:24.public protection that could be provided is by committing --
:18:24. > :18:27.accommodating offenders in appropriate accommodation with the
:18:27. > :18:32.level of supervision that exists in Thomson has, supporting the work
:18:32. > :18:34.done by probation and others with their clients and externally. At
:18:34. > :18:38.his best way of protecting the people of North Belfast and every
:18:38. > :18:42.other area, and not somehow suggesting that we can solve the
:18:42. > :18:46.problem by moving them to a different area. The reality is, the
:18:46. > :18:50.record of all hostels which accommodate offenders, is an
:18:50. > :18:54.exceptionally good one in terms of supervision and the public
:18:54. > :18:58.protection they provide. I want to pay tribute to the professionalism
:18:58. > :19:03.of the staff who continue to do a difficult job in a challenging
:19:03. > :19:06.environment despite the shock, anger and sadness at the senseless
:19:06. > :19:11.murder of a valued colleague. I have said several times we should
:19:11. > :19:15.not underestimate the vital role prison officers to play in society
:19:15. > :19:19.in terms of working with offenders to address behaviour, to
:19:19. > :19:23.rehabilitate, to reduce the risk of reoffending and to enhance public
:19:23. > :19:27.safety across Northern Ireland. This is a role which we are
:19:27. > :19:32.continuing to build on. Members will be aware that the criminal
:19:32. > :19:36.justice inspection conducted and announced inspection of the prison
:19:36. > :19:40.in March 2012. While the final report has not yet been published,
:19:40. > :19:44.initial feedback has been encouraging and it has recognised
:19:44. > :19:48.it as an improving establishment. Can the minister did tell whether
:19:48. > :19:54.there have been any reviews of security for a prison officers both
:19:54. > :20:01.within and outside the prison complexes in recent weeks?
:20:01. > :20:04.Certainly I can assure Mr Elliott that there have been significant
:20:04. > :20:10.review of security measures for individual prison officers, both on
:20:10. > :20:13.the issue of home security, the issue of weapons and the issue of
:20:13. > :20:18.security going into establishments and leaving them. I do not think
:20:18. > :20:21.the house would expect me to go into detail but there has been
:20:21. > :20:27.significantly work done. I have had meetings with the Chief Constable
:20:28. > :20:31.and others. I will be meeting the minister with responsibility for
:20:32. > :20:35.the home protection scheme later this week. I can assure the member
:20:35. > :20:39.that a possibility for further knife crime and the state will
:20:39. > :20:44.remain under consideration and I will consider any additional
:20:44. > :20:51.measures which would be effective in reducing knife crime. I thank
:20:51. > :20:55.the Minister for his response. The previous two knife amnesty is led
:20:55. > :20:59.to 14,000 knives being handed in. Does the Minister accept the while
:20:59. > :21:05.this low-cost initiative is a useful measure among others to help
:21:05. > :21:10.tackle the serious problem within our society? I appreciate the point
:21:10. > :21:16.he is trying to make in how things are operating and how they worked.
:21:16. > :21:22.The fact is, as he correctly highlights, there were nearly 1,500
:21:22. > :21:28.weapons handed in in the two Amnesty's of 2006. However, the
:21:28. > :21:32.total cost of that was �300,000. When he describes that as the low
:21:32. > :21:36.cost, I am not sure it is an effective use of money in it
:21:36. > :21:40.straitened times. I am open to any specific arrangements which would
:21:40. > :21:45.seem to make a real difference. The reality is, we did not see that
:21:45. > :21:51.particular amnesty, as opposed to a general trend in the use of knives
:21:51. > :21:53.and crimes paying dividends. The Justice Minister, David Ford.
:21:53. > :21:56.An upcoming visit to Northern Ireland by the minister responsible
:21:56. > :21:58.for welfare reform in Westminster, Lord Freud, was just one of the
:21:58. > :22:01.issues addressed by Stormont's Social Development Minister, Nelson
:22:01. > :22:04.McCausland today. First though, Mr McCausland was asked about the
:22:04. > :22:12.implementation of a pay-as-you-go system for people using oil to heat
:22:12. > :22:16.their homes. This exciting new technology has the potential to
:22:16. > :22:21.allow householders to pay for oil when they use it similar to how
:22:21. > :22:24.people pay for their electricity and gas. I take a personal interest
:22:24. > :22:28.in this. It is something I identify as a priority issue, along with
:22:28. > :22:34.other aspects of addressing fuel poverty. The technology was piloted
:22:34. > :22:41.for three months and was evaluated by Carillion Energy Services and
:22:41. > :22:44.the Housing Executive. Both of those housing schemes were positive.
:22:45. > :22:49.Those who took part in the pilot said they would recommend the
:22:49. > :22:53.technology to other has told us. I'm disappointed that it is taking
:22:53. > :22:59.so long to get this up and running but there are important issues to
:22:59. > :23:06.be resolved in ensuring we address issues with the cost of the product
:23:06. > :23:10.and the running cost associated with it. Thank -- I thank the
:23:10. > :23:15.Minister for his update. Can the Minister give a firm timescale
:23:15. > :23:21.given that we are now in the depth of winter as to when this scheme
:23:21. > :23:26.will be mainstream? I welcome the fact that the member gave credit
:23:26. > :23:30.for this, this issue of people giving credit for something which
:23:30. > :23:37.has been achieved seems to be breaking out as a habit in this
:23:37. > :23:42.house. I am disappointed it has taken so long. I cannot give a
:23:42. > :23:46.timescale at present. It would be wrong to do that because there are
:23:46. > :23:51.two issues of importance in there about the cost of the product and
:23:51. > :23:55.the running cost. We need to get this right because it is such an
:23:55. > :24:01.important issue for people, in terms of the cost of fuel and the
:24:01. > :24:06.fuel poverty that can arise as a result. I'm disappointed we have
:24:06. > :24:10.not quite got there yet but I continued to make it a priority. I
:24:10. > :24:14.do not believe this is the place to go through the finer details of our
:24:14. > :24:18.negotiations with Lord Freud. As the member will be aware, the
:24:18. > :24:21.Welfare Reform Bill is currently going through the committee stage
:24:22. > :24:25.of the Assembly and I have been listening to the views of the MLAs.
:24:25. > :24:28.Those who have responded to the call for evidence and other
:24:28. > :24:32.stakeholders who have been attending events held by my
:24:32. > :24:36.department, I remain committed to hearing ideas on how we can
:24:36. > :24:42.mitigate the negative aspects of welfare reform without reaching
:24:42. > :24:46.parity. In my statement on 22nd October, I said that Lord Freud has
:24:46. > :24:50.a genuine interest on the specific challenges which are facing us in
:24:50. > :24:53.Northern Ireland. He has accepted my invitation to visit us in
:24:53. > :24:57.November to discuss how we can address the impact of housing
:24:57. > :25:03.benefit changes. He is aware of some of the issues in Northern
:25:03. > :25:06.Ireland on how the housing sector can contribute to finding solutions.
:25:06. > :25:10.Given the possible influence that could be exerted during the visit
:25:10. > :25:15.the minister has referred to, is he concerned that because of a range
:25:15. > :25:19.of delays, the committee, which is considering it, is aiming to
:25:19. > :25:27.collude their work on the very first day of his visit? Is that a
:25:27. > :25:34.missed opportunity? No, I do not think it is a. It is a matter of
:25:34. > :25:39.real concern. I am content that the visit he is making is very much to
:25:39. > :25:45.engage with and to listen to views which will be expressed. However,
:25:45. > :25:49.it has to be borne in mind this is a devolved matter. The conversation
:25:49. > :25:54.that must take place primarily is between obviously the committee and
:25:54. > :25:58.stakeholders but priority -- primarily between myself and the
:25:58. > :26:02.minister. We should not get the hold of this thing of running off
:26:02. > :26:07.to Westminster or seeking to short- circuit things and some way or
:26:07. > :26:12.think there is an easy answer by talking directly to Lord Freud. The
:26:12. > :26:14.key thing is it is a devolved matter, it is a matter for the
:26:14. > :26:18.Northern Ireland Assembly within the constraints we are aware of and
:26:18. > :26:22.whatever comes Ford from the committee, I would certainly want
:26:22. > :26:26.to give serious consideration to. Nelson McCausland. Our political
:26:26. > :26:34.reporter, Stephen Walker, is with me again. Stephen, there was also a
:26:34. > :26:40.motion on help for the construction industry today. That is right. It
:26:40. > :26:46.was an SDLP inspired debate. It was after the pattern group in
:26:46. > :26:50.Ballymena went into administration. Joe Byrne called on the Executive
:26:50. > :26:56.to do more to help the construction industry. One issue which is
:26:56. > :27:04.causing big problems and massive job losses, bankruptcy, pain being
:27:04. > :27:08.experienced by workers and managers of the construction company. I have
:27:08. > :27:15.got to say to members, if they wish to have more money put into
:27:15. > :27:19.construction works, the first thing we have got a dig is where within
:27:19. > :27:24.the programme for government will that construction set? What parts
:27:24. > :27:30.of current spending do we sacrifice to do that? And thirdly, if we are
:27:30. > :27:35.going to do that, how can we ensure that it is going to have overall
:27:35. > :27:39.benefit for the Northern Ireland economy, one of course there are
:27:39. > :27:47.all of the other competing interests? Sammy Wilson there.
:27:47. > :27:52.Stephen, what should we be looking out for tomorrow? It is interesting,
:27:53. > :27:59.because we had a debate about boxing. The debate about sport
:27:59. > :28:04.continues. Stephen Agnew will be petitioning to make sport --
:28:04. > :28:08.athletics a priority. Later there is a debate about the legacy of the
:28:08. > :28:15.Paralympic Games so a lot of sport around tomorrow. And of course, our
:28:15. > :28:19.First and Deputy First Ministers are on foreign shores? That is
:28:19. > :28:25.right. They are on their way to China leading a delegation. They
:28:25. > :28:31.are taking 35 companies with them. They are going to Shanghai and Hong
:28:31. > :28:35.Kong. It is a huge market. What the first and Deputy First Minister are