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:00:28. > :00:32.Hello and welcome to Stormont Today, where we will look at the impact of

:00:32. > :00:36.cuts, and whether a back lash from public sector workers is on the way.

:00:36. > :00:41.Stay with us if you have a story to tell on your efforts to build peace

:00:41. > :00:48.here. And, fedup with delay at Stormont, here's a promise from a

:00:48. > :00:52.politician. When you go into power, you do not lie you become captive

:00:52. > :00:56.of delay. I can assure the member that if there is any reason to be

:00:56. > :01:01.concerned about delay, that should be brought to my attention. It will

:01:01. > :01:07.not be the measure against which I will proceed. And, a shark arrived

:01:07. > :01:12.at Stormont today, well, what's one more in a sea of politicians, the

:01:12. > :01:18.critics might say. Protesters came to Stormont to demand new laws to

:01:18. > :01:28.protect our marine life. The bask shark needs protection. Along with

:01:28. > :01:33.the sponges, fish, seals, seabirds, all the Flora and florn ya needs

:01:33. > :01:40.protected. Story waters in the chamber ber as members clash over

:01:40. > :01:45.the new deputy principal speaker. When the budget shrinks, it's not

:01:45. > :01:49.long before the workers feel the pinch. �4 billion is being cut from

:01:49. > :01:53.the Stormont finances this term. The Prime Minister himself told us

:01:53. > :01:58.last week that we need to start growing the private sector, and

:01:58. > :02:04.there is increasing pressure to cut back on jobs, services an pensions.

:02:04. > :02:07.The trade union NIPSA, is fighting back. To discuss these issues I'm

:02:07. > :02:10.joined by NIPSA general secretary, Brian Campfield. You are welcome to

:02:10. > :02:16.the programme. You are about to ballot your members for strike

:02:16. > :02:19.action, is it going to be a Winter of Discontent? Well, we're, the

:02:19. > :02:24.trade union members and the public service workers generally are in

:02:24. > :02:30.the same position as the community at large facing the onslaught of

:02:30. > :02:33.these austerity measures forced upon Northern Ireland by the Lib

:02:33. > :02:40.Dem,/Conservative coalition. We are witnessing an attack on pension, on

:02:40. > :02:44.pay and on jobs, jobs thousands of jobs, in fact, have been lost

:02:44. > :02:50.across the health services and civil service. We - what we want to

:02:50. > :02:53.do is stand up and make it clear, not only to our Assembly, to the

:02:53. > :02:57.Northern Ireland Executive and the Westminster government we are not

:02:57. > :03:02.prepared to accept it and will take a stand. We will ballot or our

:03:02. > :03:07.members in September with a view to taking industrial action in October.

:03:07. > :03:10.We're not doing this alone, we are working along with our sister trade

:03:10. > :03:13.union yos yons, not only in Northern Ireland, but across the UK

:03:13. > :03:18.generally. We will come back to that later, thank you. We have had

:03:18. > :03:21.a run of new ministers stepping up to the dispatch box for questions.

:03:21. > :03:25.Earlier it was the turn of Alex Attwood, who is now in charge of

:03:25. > :03:32.the Department of the Environment. How green is he? Where does he

:03:32. > :03:38.stand on recycling and the fiery issue of incineration. That said, I

:03:38. > :03:44.do want to see, over the course of my time during this office,

:03:44. > :03:48.opportunities for waste management and for recycling exploited more

:03:48. > :03:56.and more. It is a fact that Wyles Belfast, for example, has a

:03:56. > :04:00.recycling rate of 30% of domestic, comparable cities in Cardiff have

:04:00. > :04:04.recycling of 40%. If we go down the road of reorganisational government

:04:04. > :04:10.how we push the new councils in the run down about reorganisation about

:04:10. > :04:16.how they can, in terms of recycle and reuse, up their game, maximise

:04:16. > :04:21.the opportunities so that could mitigate against incineration.

:04:21. > :04:24.Incineration is not merely merely burning. You can have waste energy

:04:24. > :04:30.opportunities that makes the incinerator option more attractive.

:04:30. > :04:35.And, staying with a burning issue. The TUV leader wants to know about

:04:36. > :04:42.the proposal to build a chicken waste incinerator. Would ideology

:04:42. > :04:47.play a part? Could I thank the member and could I also welcome the

:04:47. > :04:52.member to the Assembly. Could I confirm I do have ideological

:04:52. > :04:56.positions, I'm not afraid of having ideological positions, maybe in the

:04:56. > :04:59.course of the next few months we could have conversations one way or

:04:59. > :05:09.the another about my ideological positions they may prevail over

:05:09. > :05:10.

:05:10. > :05:16.yours. My experience, as an SDLP politician has always been to

:05:16. > :05:20.travel more in hope than expectation, and I can assure the

:05:20. > :05:25.House that when it comes to talking to the minister that would be the

:05:25. > :05:30.basis on which I would have the conversation. I don't fall into

:05:31. > :05:36.traps around delay. I try to demonstrate when I was DSD Minister

:05:36. > :05:39.that there was a difference, which, in my view, ministers didn't fully

:05:39. > :05:44.appreciate between going into government and go into power. When

:05:44. > :05:50.you go into power you do not allow yourself to become captive of delay.

:05:50. > :05:53.I can assure the member, if there is any reason to be concerned about

:05:53. > :05:58.delay, that should be brought to my attention. It will not be the

:05:58. > :06:03.measure against which I will proceed. Then road safety, in

:06:03. > :06:10.particular drink drieg driving. Wyles we still continue to scope

:06:10. > :06:15.those out within the Department, some of the examples would be

:06:15. > :06:21.further measures to deter drink- driving. Have we come to a point in

:06:21. > :06:25.time where, not only should we reduce the limits of alcohol in a

:06:25. > :06:30.person's blood, leading to prosecution, but are we come to the

:06:30. > :06:36.point in time where, for certain designated drivers, let's say our

:06:36. > :06:41.drivers, that there would be a requirement for effectively a nil

:06:41. > :06:44.reading of alcohol in the blood, in terms of potential prosecution? Nil

:06:44. > :06:48.meaning, not necessarily being no reading, because there may be

:06:48. > :06:53.reasons, such as taking of medicine that is could give rise to partial

:06:53. > :06:58.traces of alcohol in a person's blood. It does seem to me that

:06:58. > :07:02.reducing the alcohol level in someone's blood, leading to

:07:02. > :07:08.prosecution, is one example of an area we should explore. Finance

:07:08. > :07:13.questions. The economy minister standing in for her colleague Sammy

:07:14. > :07:23.Wilson attending the funeral of Mr Lenihan in Dublin. She had this

:07:23. > :07:27.update on a scheme to help small businesses. Large retailers are

:07:27. > :07:32.generally better placed to cope with the economic downturn than

:07:32. > :07:36.small businesses. These measures need to be introduced as soon as

:07:36. > :07:40.possible and with Executive support the Finance Minister will seek

:07:40. > :07:43.assembly approval to have them in place by next April. They would

:07:43. > :07:49.apply for three years through to the end of the budget period.

:07:49. > :07:54.Consultation will begin on the way forward, and the Finance Minister

:07:54. > :07:58.hopes final decisions can be reached in the autumn. She got a

:07:58. > :08:02.chance to remind members while she believed a reduction in corporation

:08:02. > :08:08.corporation tax would be a good thing nor Northern Ireland and news

:08:08. > :08:11.of an extension to the consultation period? I believe the lowering of

:08:11. > :08:15.co-operation tax would be of huge benefit to us in Northern Ireland

:08:15. > :08:20.in a number of ways. It would bring in more foreign direct investment.

:08:20. > :08:26.It would bring many more jobs into the economy and my economic

:08:26. > :08:32.advisory group have indicated up to as many 4dm 500 new jobs every year.

:08:32. > :08:37.It would increase our productivity levels so that the productivity gap

:08:37. > :08:42.would close between yourselves and the rest of the United Kingdom,

:08:42. > :08:46.something which we have set as a target as far back as 2007, at the

:08:46. > :08:49.start of devolution. I think that convergance between living

:08:49. > :08:53.standards for people here in flirl, regardless of where they live,

:08:53. > :08:56.regardless of what they do for a living, would be something that

:08:56. > :09:02.everybody would feel right across Northern Ireland. So, that

:09:02. > :09:08.convergance of living standards, I think, for me, is the key part of

:09:08. > :09:11.gaining Corporation tax and the lowering of corporation tax in

:09:11. > :09:15.Northern Ireland the consultation still continues, as I understand it,

:09:15. > :09:19.from my own Department, that consultation date may have been

:09:19. > :09:24.extended to July 1st. It will give businesses and everybody else the

:09:24. > :09:27.opportunity to engage in that consultation with treasury. After

:09:28. > :09:31.that consultation is closed there is much work to do in relation to

:09:31. > :09:36.the detail of how that, hopefully, will happen here in Northern

:09:36. > :09:42.Ireland. She may have been standing in for him, was she singing from

:09:42. > :09:47.the same hymn sheet as the Finance Minister. I think I detect a slight

:09:47. > :09:54.difference in emphasis regarding the enthusiasm for corporation tax

:09:54. > :10:00.between the deputy minister and the Finance k minister. Be that as it

:10:00. > :10:04.THE SPEAKER: Could I have a question, please. In her view, what

:10:04. > :10:10.measures can be introduced to ensure that Northern Ireland is not

:10:10. > :10:15.subject to a rash of practice known as, "brass plating" where by

:10:15. > :10:21.companies seek to gain advantage from the lower corporation tax

:10:21. > :10:25.without the accompanying economic activity? I did lava little, I have

:10:25. > :10:34.to say, Mr Deputy Speaker, when I read the Belfast Telegraph today

:10:34. > :10:38.saying that the Firs Minister was a nice cop, the Finance Minister was

:10:38. > :10:41.an assy cop Iowa nicer cop. The Finance Minister is charged with

:10:41. > :10:47.the public finances of Northern Ireland. Therefore, he will, of

:10:47. > :10:50.course, be concerned about the cost of corporation tax. As Economy

:10:50. > :10:55.Minister my job is to build the economy for Northern Ireland and to

:10:55. > :10:59.try and close the productivity gap between yourselves and the United

:10:59. > :11:03.Kingdom. That is my primary aim. Having looked at the independent

:11:03. > :11:10.evidence that corporation tax would bring about benefits fofr -- for us

:11:10. > :11:15.here in Northern Ireland that we would not otherwise achieve.

:11:15. > :11:20.everyone is convinced. Some critics say it's too big a risk because we

:11:20. > :11:26.will lose �300 million a year in treasury funding with no guarantee

:11:26. > :11:31.of job creation and investment. NIPSA general secretary is one of

:11:31. > :11:38.those critics. Aren't you swimming against the tide. Experts say it

:11:38. > :11:42.will great 4,000 to 5,000 jobs for years to come? A lot of these

:11:42. > :11:44.experts are economist who work for the banking system. They are

:11:44. > :11:48.articulating the pro-business position on this, which is there

:11:48. > :11:51.should be a reduction in corporation tax. More recently the

:11:51. > :11:56.debate has become a bit more balanced because, up until now, it

:11:56. > :12:02.has been one sided. It has been more propaganda than debate. More

:12:02. > :12:06.recently, as you know, Lady Sylvia Herman came out against the

:12:06. > :12:12.reduction in corporation tax. It is a strange situation where you have

:12:12. > :12:17.a Lord And Lady of the realm taking a progressive position than those

:12:17. > :12:23.of the SDLP or any other political parties. Stormont received an SOS

:12:23. > :12:28.message today, save our seas. Around 100 school children brought

:12:28. > :12:32.a giant wicker shark to the steps along with a 4,000 strong petition.

:12:32. > :12:36.The protest was organised by the Northern Ireland Marine Task Force.

:12:36. > :12:41.It wants new laws to protect marine life, arguing Northern Ireland is

:12:41. > :12:45.lagging behind other UK regions. So is the Minister responsible, Alex

:12:45. > :12:50.Attwood, will to legislate. I caught up with him and the shark

:12:50. > :12:53.earlier. The boys and girls are right, we need a Marine Bill and we

:12:53. > :12:57.need it now. Even yesterday afternoon I sat down with all the

:12:57. > :13:02.progressive organisations in the North to scope out what a Marine

:13:02. > :13:05.Bill should look out in order to ensure when I table legislation, as

:13:05. > :13:10.I plan to in the near future, it covers all that we need to do in

:13:10. > :13:13.order to ensure that what the boys and girls want, that our seas and

:13:13. > :13:21.shores and marine and coastal land is all protected and developed

:13:21. > :13:24.And many reen and coastal land, is developed and protected. This idea

:13:25. > :13:29.has been floated about your department for some time and

:13:29. > :13:34.nothing's been done. It may have been floating about for a while but

:13:34. > :13:38.I'm going to launch it soon. Will it be as big and bold a marine bill

:13:39. > :13:42.as I can make it. While I have a draft version of the Bill already,

:13:42. > :13:48.yesterday I sat down with a lot of the progressive environmentalists

:13:48. > :13:52.in the North to see how we can build upon the draft to make it

:13:52. > :13:56.what the boys and girls want - a bill to serve their needs and

:13:56. > :14:00.future generations going forward. That's measure of this Bill. If I

:14:01. > :14:06.fail that measure I think people will say so. How big and bold is

:14:06. > :14:12.it? What does it mean? Well, what it means will we have marine

:14:12. > :14:18.conservation zones so that when we develop our shoreline and our

:14:18. > :14:22.marine and seabed we are doing it in a way that is responsible, so

:14:22. > :14:26.that in future generations we have and retain the asset of the

:14:26. > :14:30.beautiful seas around the coastline in the north of Ireland. Are we

:14:30. > :14:34.going to have mechanisms to make sure that there is all the power of

:14:34. > :14:38.government to stop those abusing the power of our seas? Do we

:14:38. > :14:43.develop in a way that's environmentally friendly but at the

:14:43. > :14:48.same time uses our marine for all the good environmental purposes

:14:48. > :14:52.going forward? Those are the standards I shall be judged by.

:14:52. > :14:57.That's what the generation behind me want. They want the biggest and

:14:57. > :15:01.boldest bill possibly to ensure the beautiful asset of the marine is

:15:01. > :15:06.protected but utilised going forward. Does it mean cleaner

:15:06. > :15:12.beachs? Cleaner beachs a strategy already in place. That's why only a

:15:12. > :15:16.couple of weeks ago I was awarding a blue flag and other standards for

:15:16. > :15:21.the cleanliness and fitness of our beaches around Northern Ireland.

:15:21. > :15:25.That's part of the coastal strategy. The marine bill will go further

:15:25. > :15:34.than that again. While they may be conduct jobs in the Civil Service,

:15:34. > :15:38.there is still room for a new, upgraded post in Stormont. The DUP

:15:38. > :15:45.and Sinn Fein has agreed that one of the speakers will be elevated to

:15:45. > :15:50.a new Principal Speaker's job. But other parties are crying foul here

:15:50. > :15:54.is a taste of rather hot and heavy debate on the issue. We are all

:15:54. > :16:01.aware of the background though these motions. That an 16th May

:16:01. > :16:05.2011 this Assembly passed a motion for the creation of the roll of

:16:05. > :16:09.Principal Deputy Speaker and conducted the committee to start

:16:09. > :16:12.the necessary order. This may sound a simple instruction, but the

:16:12. > :16:16.committee felt that in order to arrive at a product that could

:16:17. > :16:22.stand over consideration needed to be given to a broad series of

:16:22. > :16:27.related issues. Things like what the title of Principal Deputy

:16:27. > :16:31.Speaker might mean in practice and how practical issues needed to be

:16:31. > :16:36.achieved. The outworkings of these considerations are the three

:16:36. > :16:41.motions you see on the paper. not believe that a proposed case

:16:42. > :16:47.has been made for this appointment on the grounds of need. I believe

:16:47. > :16:53.we need to have it spelt out, where exactly we are falling short in the

:16:53. > :16:57.last mandate, which may disappointment necessary. How did

:16:57. > :17:06.this supposed shortfall show up? What was the shortcomings which

:17:06. > :17:09.drove and led to this proposal? Thank you Mr Speaker and for the

:17:09. > :17:15.opportunity to speak Toon issue today, although I imagine members

:17:15. > :17:18.of the public following this debate may wonder why the Assembly is not

:17:18. > :17:24.discussing more important matters. On reflection of the proposals

:17:24. > :17:30.today, I see no compelling identification of the problem, or

:17:30. > :17:34.indeed a solution to the problem. That we were seeking to re divine

:17:34. > :17:39.equality in this amendment. It has gone from being that we all come

:17:39. > :17:43.here and we share the burden of port in an equal way. It's gone

:17:43. > :17:50.from that to being that Sinn Fein and the DUP are more equal than

:17:50. > :17:54.others. And so we have a hierarchy of equality. Therefore, a new

:17:54. > :17:58.inequality in this House. I don't see how notice the interests of

:17:58. > :18:01.this House or any party, particularly a party which

:18:01. > :18:06.campaigned so vehemently on the basic principle of equality, to

:18:06. > :18:10.introduce such a code to this House. That's the impact of these changes,

:18:10. > :18:14.Mr Speaker. They were a serious impacts. They send a negative

:18:14. > :18:19.signal to the outside world. There really is very little to discuss.

:18:19. > :18:22.The Assembly has already decided to create the position of the

:18:22. > :18:27.Principal Deputy Speaker. What we are talking about today is the

:18:27. > :18:31.process and how that appointment will operate. But the role has been

:18:31. > :18:38.created. That decision has been taken. I realisation that some

:18:38. > :18:41.members don't like that decision, but however the democratic

:18:41. > :18:47.institution that decided to take that decision. Those who respect

:18:47. > :18:52.democracy will respect the will of this House. I thank the member for

:18:52. > :18:58.giving way and I appreciate we've already debated this motion. But as

:18:58. > :19:01.I said during the first - we've yet to be told why this change is

:19:01. > :19:06.necessary. Out of respect for democracy, out of respect for this

:19:06. > :19:10.House, and out of respect to this voting public, could the member

:19:10. > :19:16.please take the opportunity to explain why this is necessary?

:19:16. > :19:23.We've yet to hear this argument.. The will of this House has deemed

:19:23. > :19:29.that it is necessary. A minority in this House don't want the position,

:19:29. > :19:35.but a majority of this House do. have no need established. We have

:19:35. > :19:40.no function for the post we are going to establish. We've no

:19:40. > :19:46.argument made, little wonder there is such embarrassment in this House

:19:46. > :19:50.today during this debate on these main benches and on these main

:19:50. > :19:55.benches... THE SPEAKER: Order! the two main benches. No-one

:19:56. > :20:01.occupying any of those bench has the capacity, there is nothing

:20:01. > :20:07.there to give, the capacity to tell us why we need a Principal Deputy

:20:07. > :20:11.Speaker. Your party, the TUV and the Ulster Unionists, joined forces

:20:11. > :20:14.to oppose though motion but you are not opposed to the principle of a

:20:14. > :20:18.Principal Deputy Speaker, because you wanted the parties to rotate

:20:18. > :20:21.this position? No, we made it plain we were opposed to the idea of

:20:21. > :20:25.having a Principal Deputy Speaker, but when you are in a situation

:20:25. > :20:28.where you are trying to fight your corner, you have to produce

:20:28. > :20:33.amendments. We produced a very reasoned and reasonable amendment,

:20:33. > :20:38.which was let's rotate this position around the three Deputy

:20:38. > :20:41.Speakers that presently exist. Yand did we do that? Because it is

:20:41. > :20:44.consistent with the Good Friday Agreement, consistent with an

:20:44. > :20:49.Assembly that's committed to partnership and to power sharing.

:20:49. > :20:52.This was of course the creation of a hierarchy within the team of

:20:52. > :20:57.Deputy Speakers. There's a hierarchy within the executive.

:20:57. > :21:01.There's a first and Deputy First Minister. Why not have a speaker

:21:01. > :21:05.with a Principal Deputy Speaker? There are two dominant parties here

:21:05. > :21:10.and why shouldn't they share the post? You were right it was a

:21:10. > :21:16.pretty shabby deal between the two parties, the DUP... I didn't say

:21:16. > :21:22.that, so don't put words in my mouth. I'm sure any reasonable

:21:22. > :21:25.person out there would agree it's a shabby deal. If you take the First

:21:26. > :21:31.and Deputy First Minister, that's co-equal position, and Sinn Fein

:21:31. > :21:35.keep arguing that it is a co-equal position. So why do they insist on

:21:35. > :21:39.creating a hierarchy within the team of Deputy Speakers? It is a

:21:39. > :21:43.title, so what's the big deal? Aren't you just jealous that Sinn

:21:43. > :21:48.Fein are going to get it? there's a more serious point to

:21:48. > :21:53.this - the side deals which the DUP and Sinn Fein are entering into Tam

:21:53. > :21:58.person with the integrity of the Assembly, the integrity of the Good

:21:58. > :22:05.Friday Agreement. What they are trying to do is create an exclusive

:22:05. > :22:09.club within the Assembly, where the SDLP and the Ulster Unionists and

:22:09. > :22:13.everybody else is excluded. So if your party was offered the post you

:22:13. > :22:19.would turn it down? What we are saying is let's have a civilised

:22:19. > :22:24.way of sharing power and positions within this Assembly. And by and

:22:24. > :22:28.large they are shared out in a proper and equitable manner. But on

:22:28. > :22:31.this occasion the DUP and Sinn Fein have decided to create a hierarchy,

:22:31. > :22:36.and that's what we are against. you see this post becoming more

:22:36. > :22:40.powerful in the months ahead? course, and not just the months

:22:40. > :22:47.ahead. We've got three years until the changeover between the present

:22:47. > :22:51.speakers, Willie Hay, and the Sinn Fein Principal Deputy Speaker.

:22:51. > :22:57.During that time they'll retro fit new functions and powers on to this

:22:57. > :23:01.position so as to create an even more powerful position than already

:23:01. > :23:04.is envisaged. And they will do that by way of amendment of the law at

:23:04. > :23:09.Westminster, because they can't do that now at the moment, because

:23:09. > :23:12.their powers are restricted. We'll have to see who is right on this,

:23:12. > :23:16.thank you. Martin McGuinness likes to say we

:23:16. > :23:20.have to most successful peace process in the world, and with

:23:20. > :23:25.Peter Robinson he Lancashired an on-line directory to allow people

:23:25. > :23:31.involved in peace building their tell their stories. I spoke to

:23:31. > :23:36.Frances Morton about the initiative. It is an exciting and ambitious

:23:36. > :23:41.project. The first strand is to collect 100 heritage interviews. We

:23:41. > :23:45.plan to build an archive of those, with key people involved in peace

:23:45. > :23:49.and reconciliation. We are going back as far as living memory will

:23:49. > :23:53.allow. That's people who experienced the peace process and

:23:53. > :23:56.contributed to it, as far back as the '60s to the present day.

:23:56. > :24:01.Secondly, a community aspect will involve engagement with local

:24:01. > :24:04.communities to develop their oral history skills. We are planning to

:24:04. > :24:08.undertake an oral history training programme. That will equip people

:24:08. > :24:13.in the local communities to go out and collect other people's stories

:24:13. > :24:16.who experienced the peace process and lived through it. Who are you

:24:16. > :24:20.looking for then? We are looking for people all over Northern

:24:20. > :24:25.Ireland, the border area, the Republic of Ireland, and Britain as

:24:25. > :24:29.well, just to come forward and tell us their storys and experiences.

:24:29. > :24:33.it their experiences of the Troubles or their experiences of

:24:33. > :24:37.trying to build peace? It's the experience of trying to build peace

:24:38. > :24:42.and how the process has filtered down at a local level to them. They

:24:42. > :24:46.might have different stories, different encounters. Really just

:24:46. > :24:50.what they feel is important. Everyone's story is important in

:24:50. > :24:55.addition to those of the politicians and those working at a

:24:55. > :25:00.higher level. So you want to go back, say, so the peace people, to

:25:00. > :25:06.the civil rights activists? Yes, we want to encourage people from a

:25:06. > :25:09.whole range of backgrounds, different sectors, community and

:25:09. > :25:13.voluntary groups, education - anyone who really feels they have a

:25:13. > :25:17.story to tell and share with us. We want to do that initially through

:25:17. > :25:22.the website that we'll be launching today. We will have information on

:25:22. > :25:26.their and addresses for people to get in touch with us. It might be

:25:26. > :25:31.people from the further education sector or higher education. What

:25:31. > :25:35.will happen top this archive? Is it going to go global or is it for

:25:35. > :25:39.local academics? The archive of the heritage interviews will be

:25:39. > :25:43.accessible of a period of time for the public to use generally. We

:25:43. > :25:48.envisage that it will be a valuable resource for future citizens to

:25:48. > :25:52.look back and remember, especially people who perhaps didn't live

:25:52. > :25:57.through the conflict, who've never, who've only experienced peace now.

:25:57. > :26:03.They can learn what it was like before. We have an on-line

:26:03. > :26:11.directory of interviews. It is an extensive repository of social

:26:11. > :26:16.worker views that have taken place -- reproz triof interviews that

:26:17. > :26:20.have taken place. They will be available for people to access on-

:26:20. > :26:30.line. How should people get in touch with you? They can log on to

:26:30. > :26:38.

:26:38. > :26:44.our website: We want to hear from anyone who has

:26:44. > :26:50.information they think is suitable for us to look at.

:26:50. > :26:55.It wasn't a day for the indoors, so instead of a chat this cafe recess

:26:55. > :27:02.Mark Devenport and I headed for the tr as. Our political editor has

:27:02. > :27:09.been meeting the Col om ban ambassador. I didn't get Ferrero

:27:09. > :27:13.Rocher but I did meet the ambassador. Colombia has had major

:27:13. > :27:19.problems with guerrilla groups. A while ago they had a peace process

:27:19. > :27:22.with the FARC group, but that fell apart. They are working possibly to

:27:23. > :27:27.reinvigorate that. That's one of the things the Colombian ambassador

:27:27. > :27:29.told me he was here to find out about. It is true that the

:27:29. > :27:34.Colombian case is quite different from the situation that you have

:27:34. > :27:38.livered in this country, but there are some very good lessons and some

:27:38. > :27:44.experiences that can be applied to my country, hopefully in the future

:27:44. > :27:48.we'll be as successful as you have been in dealing with a peace

:27:48. > :27:52.process. At Stormont you met all the parties, including Irish

:27:52. > :27:56.republicans. On the news here most people when you say Colombia they

:27:56. > :28:01.might think of the three Irish republicans accused of trying to

:28:01. > :28:05.help FARC guerrillas. It's a turn around if you are now looking for

:28:05. > :28:09.lessons on peace from those politicians here? That's right. The

:28:09. > :28:15.idea to export from Northern Ireland to Colombia good ideas

:28:15. > :28:20.on,000 build and keep a peace process going on, and not to have

:28:20. > :28:24.the sad and negative stories of the past. It seems you are going to be

:28:24. > :28:29.very gck the Colombian embassy in London from now on. What about Jim

:28:29. > :28:35.Allister. He's having trouble getting answers to his questions.

:28:35. > :28:42.He was complaining earlier about the delay as he saw it in getting

:28:42. > :28:46.written answers. He got one today which he didn't like. He was asking

:28:46. > :28:55.about the legal advice sought by First Minister Peter Robinson in

:28:55. > :29:00.connection with the Spotlight programme, and the affair of his

:29:00. > :29:04.wife Iris and the businessman. The explanation as I understand it is

:29:04. > :29:07.that advice which was given by a barrister was commissioned by the

:29:07. > :29:11.Finance Minister, so he will probably have to rephrase his

:29:11. > :29:15.question, which was about how much the advice cost and whether it will

:29:15. > :29:20.ever be published. That's all from Stormont for now. Thanks to Brian

:29:20. > :29:26.camp field for joining us. We're back on Monday here on BBC Two at