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:00:25. > :00:30.The SDLP backs Sinn Fein in its attempts to to stop Gerry Kelly

:00:31. > :00:33.The Finance Minister addresses comments from

:00:34. > :00:35.an HBO executive that Belfast isn't the most cosmopolitan of cities.

:00:36. > :00:38.And joining me in the studio with his thoughts is

:00:39. > :00:47.Did I break the law technically? Yes I did. That's why I accepted the

:00:48. > :00:54.informed warrant. The Finance Minister addresses

:00:55. > :00:56.comments from an HBO executive that Belfast isn't

:00:57. > :01:05.the most cosmopolitan of cities. Given the World Cup at the minute,

:01:06. > :01:09.when it comes to filming locations, we are not Hollywood, we are

:01:10. > :01:15.Northern Ireland. Well speak for yourself.

:01:16. > :01:17.And joining me in the studio with his thoughts is

:01:18. > :01:26.Sinn Fein's Gerry Kelly was facing a five-day suspension from Stormont,

:01:27. > :01:31.A Stormont committee voted for the penalty after he was reprimanded by

:01:32. > :01:36.Mr Kelly had jumped on a police Land Rover

:01:37. > :01:41.Unionists said the informed warning from police

:01:42. > :01:45.wasn't enough, demanding he be charged with obstructing justice.

:01:46. > :01:48.But Mr Kelly's party and the SDLP have decided

:01:49. > :01:53.the suspension isn't appropriate and are using a petition of concern

:01:54. > :01:57.to vote down the decision by the Assembly's Standard's Committee.

:01:58. > :02:08.Here's the Speaker to explain there'll be a vote tomorrow.

:02:09. > :02:23.It was presented in relation to this motion. Order! Order! Order,

:02:24. > :02:29.members. The vote therefore will be in a cross-party basis and we will

:02:30. > :02:36.respond tomorrow. It will be the first member of, the first business.

:02:37. > :02:42.The motion relates only to the committee report and recommendations

:02:43. > :02:44.following complaints about an incident that took place in north

:02:45. > :02:56.Belfast on 21st June, 2013. So to explain just what all this

:02:57. > :02:58.means I'm joined by Alex, first of all,

:02:59. > :03:02.remind us how Gerry Kelly got into this situation, as he technically

:03:03. > :03:05.did break the law last year. Well, let's see what members made

:03:06. > :03:19.of it all today when He said he had to get on the vehicle

:03:20. > :03:23.and they said to stop that. I think they were concerned about the

:03:24. > :03:28.gathering around of the vehicle. I think Gerry Kelly got his informed

:03:29. > :03:32.caution, the driver got one, the young men banging on the window got

:03:33. > :03:36.one. I have no idea why the Assembly is even discussing this. I think

:03:37. > :03:40.unionists were concerned that this warning didn't even amount to a

:03:41. > :03:45.caution, so how surprised are you that the petition of concern has

:03:46. > :03:52.been tabled? I think you have to be concerned any party deciding what

:03:53. > :03:56.does and doesn't constitute justice. The process was carried through but

:03:57. > :04:00.the petition of concern kills off the debate. It is one of those

:04:01. > :04:06.things I don't understand. When you know a debate is not going anywhere,

:04:07. > :04:09.when it can't even be carried, the only consequence of continuing with

:04:10. > :04:13.it is that the two sides will do what they always do, the finger

:04:14. > :04:18.pointing and the name calling and we'll end up worse off tomorrow

:04:19. > :04:23.morning than we were today. So the 30-strong petition force as cross

:04:24. > :04:29.community vote, which means the majority of people have to agree to

:04:30. > :04:34.punish Mr Kelly? The petition of concern has only one purpose - to

:04:35. > :04:41.kill a debate or protect someone. Alex, thank you.

:04:42. > :04:44.Well, let's see what members made of it all today when

:04:45. > :04:48.It's very clear that unionists believe Gerry Kelly should be

:04:49. > :04:49.punished for his actions, while nationalists are leaning

:04:50. > :05:01.It follows that in committing the offence of impeding a constable in

:05:02. > :05:06.the execution of his duty Mr Kelly failed to uphold the law as required

:05:07. > :05:10.by the members' code of conduct. It states that members should promote

:05:11. > :05:13.and support the other principles by leadership and example in order to

:05:14. > :05:16.establish and maintain the trust and confidence of the people of Northern

:05:17. > :05:20.Ireland, and to ensure the integrity of the Assembly and its members in

:05:21. > :05:23.conducting business. The committee acknowledges that Mr Kelly did seek

:05:24. > :05:29.to demonstrate positive leadership on the evening in question. His

:05:30. > :05:37.intention had been to defuse a tense situation and he used his influence

:05:38. > :05:42.to direct the crowd and facilitate the passage of the police. However,

:05:43. > :05:47.he failed to show leadership when he obstructed the police vehicle. No

:05:48. > :05:53.matter what was happening that night I don't think there is any excuse

:05:54. > :06:00.for being on the bonnet of the PSNI Land Rover. You wouldn't catch me on

:06:01. > :06:03.the bonnet of a Land Rover. LAUGHTER Mr Speaker, while we are

:06:04. > :06:08.discussing the issue of the conduct of MLAs, I feel it necessary to put

:06:09. > :06:17.on record my grave disappointment at the level of DUP hypocrisy today.

:06:18. > :06:25.Hear, hear. When Ruth Paterson, a councillor... Order! We are straying

:06:26. > :06:30.away from the report. Let us deal with what's in the report and

:06:31. > :06:40.nothing more and nothing less. Mr Speaker, it is about inconsistency

:06:41. > :06:47.in relation to today's debate. When Ruth Paterson, a councillor from the

:06:48. > :06:53.DUP was charged... Order! Once again, the member will know this

:06:54. > :06:58.will be a very difficult debate. Help me to manage this debate. I say

:06:59. > :07:03.to all members of the House, really the member is straying into a

:07:04. > :07:08.different issue and a different incident. We really must come back

:07:09. > :07:13.to the report. I'm trying to help the member. I rise to oppose the

:07:14. > :07:18.motion. When you look and listen to the demeanor and attitude of the

:07:19. > :07:24.members opposite, had this is a farce, a charade, a pantomime. If

:07:25. > :07:39.you look at the laughs on and their faces and the guff airstrikes ws and

:07:40. > :07:44.the inter-- and the guffaws. I would suggest he is a bit confused, since

:07:45. > :07:49.he is more used to the back of a Land Rover than the front. It is

:07:50. > :07:54.uncome bent on every single one of us to ensure that tensions are

:07:55. > :08:00.calmed and that the heat is taken out of this summer. Just for the

:08:01. > :08:07.record, because I know there've been a number of heckles, I am the member

:08:08. > :08:11.from the SDLP is on the committee of standards and privileges. I did

:08:12. > :08:16.leave the meeting. It wasn't because I was spineless. If I was spineless,

:08:17. > :08:20.I wouldn't be talking right now. It showed that the police were trying

:08:21. > :08:25.to deal with this in a proportionate way, unlike the DUP and the unionist

:08:26. > :08:29.members of the Standards and Privileges Committee. So did I break

:08:30. > :08:38.the law technically? Yes, I did. That's why I send the informed

:08:39. > :08:42.warrant. But let me say this to all members here, especially members,

:08:43. > :08:48.some of which are sitting across the way, who have to deal with these

:08:49. > :08:52.difficult situations. You need the flexibility to make decisions on the

:08:53. > :08:56.spot which you think will help the situation. That's exactly what I was

:08:57. > :09:02.doing. No, I won't give way. That's what I was doing on the day. I

:09:03. > :09:05.listened to your heckling earlier. I wish you would shut up. Order!

:09:06. > :09:11.Order! The SDLP's Alban Maginness provided

:09:12. > :09:13.Sinn Fein with the signature it needed to complete

:09:14. > :09:24.its petition and stop Mr Kelly's Why are you riding to Gerry Kelly's

:09:25. > :09:28.rescue? We are not riding to his rescue, we are simply ensuring that

:09:29. > :09:33.there is fairness and due process in relation to the incident of 21st

:09:34. > :09:38.June of last year. It is very important to get things into the

:09:39. > :09:44.context where Gerry Kelly helped to defuse a very difficult situation

:09:45. > :09:50.involving the aftermath of the tour of the north and I think that the

:09:51. > :09:54.committee in its majority determination did not treat him

:09:55. > :09:58.fairly. But he did himself admit that he technically broke the law.

:09:59. > :10:03.He sits on the Policing Board. Surely he should be held to a higher

:10:04. > :10:08.standard? Well, the first point is he send an informed warning. That

:10:09. > :10:11.the prescribed by law. In other words he admitted that he

:10:12. > :10:15.technically broke the law, and accepted responsibility for that.

:10:16. > :10:20.That remains on his record for the next year. That's how the law deals

:10:21. > :10:26.with it and that's how the PPS proposed to deal with it and did

:10:27. > :10:29.deal wit. The second point is he was trying to defuse a very difficult

:10:30. > :10:33.situation. He should have been given credit for that. That was not

:10:34. > :10:39.credited to him by the committee. The committee sought to have him

:10:40. > :10:44.excluded for five days. That, we believed, was excessive. Anna Lo,

:10:45. > :10:48.incidentally, proposed in the committee he should be given the

:10:49. > :10:51.opportunity to possible to the Assembly in relation to this

:10:52. > :10:55.incident and that was voted down. Why don't you suggest that he

:10:56. > :10:59.apologise before you signed the petition of concern? Well, we

:11:00. > :11:04.discussed a number of issues, but the important thing was to meet the

:11:05. > :11:08.substance of the the report, which was presented to the Assembly. We

:11:09. > :11:12.thought that was important and to highlight the issue of

:11:13. > :11:18.proportionality in terms of the actual sanction that was imposed on

:11:19. > :11:20.Gerry Kelly. But members are required to uphold the law.

:11:21. > :11:25.Shouldn't there be consequences when they don't? Absolutely. What would

:11:26. > :11:29.you suggest is the appropriate address? I think in the

:11:30. > :11:34.circumstances, and I was there, by the way. I was a witness to what

:11:35. > :11:39.happened. I saw what Gerry Kelly. I myself and others tried to calm the

:11:40. > :11:44.situation as well. The point I would make is that any penalty imposed on

:11:45. > :11:52.him would have to be proportionate. A it wasn't and it was excessive.

:11:53. > :11:55.Would you be applying the same approach if Nelson McCausland... If

:11:56. > :12:01.there was a situation in which he was trying to defuse a situation in

:12:02. > :12:04.similar circumstances, where he received an informed warning and

:12:05. > :12:09.broke the law technically, I would be saying yes in those circumstances

:12:10. > :12:13.he should be given the benefit of the doubt and in fairness he should

:12:14. > :12:16.receive a lesser penalty than that proposed by the committee. OK. Thank

:12:17. > :12:22.you very much. It was good news that was supposed

:12:23. > :12:25.to be delivered today by Ministers, but the BBC was ahead of

:12:26. > :12:28.the game when it reported last week that the Open Golf Championships

:12:29. > :12:31.are returning to Northern Ireland. It didn't stop the Enterprise

:12:32. > :12:33.Minister heading to the North Coast Arlene Foster did have to give

:12:34. > :12:46.Question Time a miss though and sent in Simon Hamilton as a substitute.

:12:47. > :12:50.The Minister gave notice to the business committee last week that it

:12:51. > :12:52.might not be possible for her to return from official business

:12:53. > :12:58.outside Belfast in time for questions and the very good news, in

:12:59. > :13:02.terms of the Open would allow members to understand why that

:13:03. > :13:04.situation has arisen. The Minister of finance and personnel will

:13:05. > :13:09.therefore respond to questions on her behalf today. Since the

:13:10. > :13:14.abolition of air passenger duty, we've seen no additional

:13:15. > :13:18.destinations and, indeed, we've heard recently of the suspension of

:13:19. > :13:23.the only direct flight from the North to the United States. And I

:13:24. > :13:28.wonder if I could ask the Minister if the removal of air passenger duty

:13:29. > :13:34.has not been as successful as was first anticipated. I think it was

:13:35. > :13:44.successful, primarily in achieving its number one target, in terms of

:13:45. > :13:47.the long haul air passenger duty, and the Assembly subsequently

:13:48. > :13:51.reduced air passenger duty the long haul flights down to zero. It was

:13:52. > :13:56.successful and its primary purpose, to save the New York to Belfast

:13:57. > :14:00.route. I share the Minister's disappointment that that service is

:14:01. > :14:06.now going to move from a 12 month, year-round service, to a ten month

:14:07. > :14:14.service, which will affect me to mid-March of next year. --

:14:15. > :14:18.mid-January two mid-March. If there is a silver lining to the

:14:19. > :14:24.disappointing news, what I hope it does is make the route more

:14:25. > :14:28.profitable and, therefore, sustainable. I welcome the fact that

:14:29. > :14:31.united airlines have confirmed that the route is secure, albeit that it

:14:32. > :14:37.is going to be reduced to ten months. There is an interesting

:14:38. > :14:42.point of discussion following from this, into the ongoing work that my

:14:43. > :14:45.department and the Minister of enterprise and investment's

:14:46. > :14:49.department is doing in respect of our conductivity study, which is

:14:50. > :14:54.going to look at many things, including the impact that air

:14:55. > :14:57.passenger duty has on attracting roots and keeping roots in place. It

:14:58. > :15:04.is interesting to note that whilst we have ?0 in terms of air passenger

:15:05. > :15:14.duty for long haul flights, it hasn't been enough to keep it in

:15:15. > :15:18.place for 12 months. What is the Minister's view of the recent

:15:19. > :15:24.comment by an HBO executive who said it wasn't the most cosmopolitan city

:15:25. > :15:29.to spend half a year in Belfast. I'm tempted to, given the World Cup is

:15:30. > :15:33.on that there is an old saying in this part of the world, that we are

:15:34. > :15:37.not Brazil but Northern Ireland, but when it comes to filming locations,

:15:38. > :15:41.we're not Hollywood, we're Northern Ireland. I understand that the

:15:42. > :15:46.comments were made about being away for six months. I'm sure that

:15:47. > :15:49.anybody, no matter who you are, being away from your home and your

:15:50. > :15:56.family for six months is a difficult thing to do. I have to say, though,

:15:57. > :16:01.that the relationship between HBO and the Northern Ireland Executive

:16:02. > :16:04.has been incredibly productive. Seasons five and seasons six have

:16:05. > :16:10.already been secured for Northern Ireland, so it seems we are doing

:16:11. > :16:14.something right in respect of HBO. The golfer featured during questions

:16:15. > :16:17.to the regional development list as well but first, it was traffic

:16:18. > :16:20.calming measures and the issue of speed limits that took his

:16:21. > :16:23.attention. But the Minister confirmed that his

:16:24. > :16:32.department has no plans to implement the mad policy of traffic calming in

:16:33. > :16:37.town centres by opposing blanket 20 mph speed restrictions as have been

:16:38. > :16:42.suggested by some members of the Green Party and other fringe

:16:43. > :16:46.parties? The issue of the implementation of 20 mph schemes is

:16:47. > :16:53.being carefully looked out. We are bringing forward pilot schemes to

:16:54. > :16:59.better inform our view on that and I think that's a sensible approach,

:17:00. > :17:04.rather than a widespread change, implementing, perhaps, changes that

:17:05. > :17:08.we blame our communities are not quite prepared for. Can the Minister

:17:09. > :17:12.state what level of income the new super councils would hope to earn

:17:13. > :17:19.from having responsibility for such car parks and will they be in charge

:17:20. > :17:23.of arrangements, and local car parking charges? Over 303 and

:17:24. > :17:30.charged car parks will, as is envisaged, transferred to the

:17:31. > :17:34.councils, with an estimated value of some ?46 million. That is what

:17:35. > :17:40.they're worth, not what they earn. Let's be clear on that. Work is

:17:41. > :17:47.ongoing to determine a final list of car parks that will transfer, but I

:17:48. > :17:50.think in the region of ?8 million per year is generated. Will the

:17:51. > :17:56.Minister give a commitment to this House today that he will consider,

:17:57. > :18:05.given that he has time, putting investment to an even greater amount

:18:06. > :18:09.to the A26 and the railway line going to Portrush, and, of course,

:18:10. > :18:14.investment in the stations from Belfast to Portrush and from Larne

:18:15. > :18:19.to Portrush, to make sure the infrastructure is in place? I'm

:18:20. > :18:25.grateful to the Member for his question and it is tremendous news

:18:26. > :18:36.and I'm sure the whole house rejoices in the fact that it is now

:18:37. > :18:41.indicated that the Open will be held in Royal Portrush in 2019. We had

:18:42. > :18:47.the huge success of the Irish Open in 2012 and we are due to have a

:18:48. > :18:56.return visit of the Irish Open in Portrush even before 2019 and,

:18:57. > :19:01.indeed, to Royal County Down and the surrounding area in 2015. So I think

:19:02. > :19:06.it is very important indeed that overall infrastructure and transport

:19:07. > :19:13.infrastructure is improved. I'm very happy and proud to say, as an Ulster

:19:14. > :19:22.Unionist minister, that we will bring forward the scheme that will

:19:23. > :19:28.see the upgrading of the A26 with monies and with the good intent that

:19:29. > :19:34.my colleague indicated from his party. I look forward with

:19:35. > :19:39.confidence to getting more money to perhaps improve that network of

:19:40. > :19:47.roads further. And, of course, the member will no that the

:19:48. > :19:50.Coleraine-Londonderry line was saved and effectively rescued by this

:19:51. > :19:57.minister and by this political party, so we're very conscious of

:19:58. > :20:00.the role that we have. Getting to and around the north

:20:01. > :20:04.coast remained the focus for Benny in the chamber today as a motion was

:20:05. > :20:10.brought calling on the roads minister to invest in the area.

:20:11. > :20:19.Dual carriageway the whole way to Coleraine on a phased basis, the

:20:20. > :20:28.A37 roadster Coleraine, and the bypass would alleviate congestion

:20:29. > :20:33.and road problems. It is vital but I point out that the A37 is the rout

:20:34. > :20:43.used by emergency ambulances transferring patients to hospital.

:20:44. > :20:48.Therefore, improvement in journey times can be viewed as very

:20:49. > :20:54.beneficial to patient outcomes. I was looking last night at a brochure

:20:55. > :20:58.from the causeway coastal Alliance about it being one of the world's

:20:59. > :21:03.greatest road journeys and when you look at the roads from Derry through

:21:04. > :21:12.Coleraine, Barry Castle, all the way through to Larne, in the summer, in

:21:13. > :21:19.the peak period, for the world's greatest road journey, we only have

:21:20. > :21:24.two buses a day from Coleraine to Larne and vice versa. We need a

:21:25. > :21:29.proper bus service along that route, not only for local people but

:21:30. > :21:36.also for tourists, as well, and I think it's a case of "build it and

:21:37. > :21:41.they will come". I'm disappointed that nobody mentioned the ferry

:21:42. > :21:46.service between McGilligan and Greencastle and perhaps that is

:21:47. > :21:52.something that needs to be examined. With a long-term view to developing

:21:53. > :21:55.tourism, going both ways, because international tourism knows nothing

:21:56. > :21:58.about borders and partition. When I think of the contribution made to

:21:59. > :22:04.the north-west by the department of regional development, we often

:22:05. > :22:08.forget that North Coast community transport provides an essential

:22:09. > :22:12.service. It fills a gap for the many people who inhabit rural areas but,

:22:13. > :22:18.unfortunately, cannot readily access public transport services because of

:22:19. > :22:22.reduced mobility. The train service between Derry and Belfast is crucial

:22:23. > :22:27.and it is a wonderful service for those towns that are part of the

:22:28. > :22:33.route. However, the nature of the rail service is that they only serve

:22:34. > :22:37.towns where they stop. We should be looking to bolster this with an

:22:38. > :22:41.integrated transport system, which means that there is a simple way for

:22:42. > :22:46.people to travel to stations to catch the train, whether by private

:22:47. > :22:56.car or, more preferably, public transport. To go by public bus from

:22:57. > :23:00.Belfast to the Giant's Causeway, our prime tourist attraction, can take

:23:01. > :23:06.as long as 3.5 hours. That just should not be. And surely,

:23:07. > :23:11.particularly in the summer season, it is possible to have a better

:23:12. > :23:13.facility than that. I'm also mindful that the north coast is more than

:23:14. > :23:20.just a place to visit. Communities live there, businesses operate

:23:21. > :23:27.amongst that breathtaking scenery, and it's vital that we create

:23:28. > :23:33.high-quality local and regional transport connections to provide

:23:34. > :23:39.access to major towns. This ensures that goods and markets and workers

:23:40. > :23:43.and jobs can link seamlessly. I wish to see local businesses expand their

:23:44. > :23:46.markets across Great Britain and the Republic of Island and throughout

:23:47. > :23:49.the EU and beyond. Race relations and the treatment of

:23:50. > :23:53.ethnic minorities in Northern Ireland has been a huge issue in

:23:54. > :24:00.recent weeks and today, the Assembly took the opportunity to recognise

:24:01. > :24:05.Refugees Week and talk about the importance of people from other

:24:06. > :24:10.communities coming here. Mike Nesbitt brought the motion before

:24:11. > :24:17.the House. The theme for community relations week this year is building

:24:18. > :24:22.a united community, while Refugee Week focuses on different pasts,

:24:23. > :24:29.shared future. It is fitting that community relations week and Refugee

:24:30. > :24:34.Week coincide in 2014, providing us with a timely reminder that when we

:24:35. > :24:40.speak of uniting communities we must look beyond our two communities in

:24:41. > :24:46.our society. And if it is the case, Mr Deputy Speaker, that the Deputy

:24:47. > :24:51.First Minister has signed off on the racial equality strategy, let the

:24:52. > :24:56.measure of FM and DFM B, when it comes to the publication of that

:24:57. > :25:00.racy quality strategy, that it deals with all the issues that it needs to

:25:01. > :25:06.deal with one it comes to the issue of immigration. -- race equality.

:25:07. > :25:09.What needs to happen in areas where frequent racist incidents occurred

:25:10. > :25:17.to promote root jewel understanding and challenge sectarian attitudes.

:25:18. > :25:20.-- mutual understanding. We must encourage reporting, supporting

:25:21. > :25:25.victims in a way which demonstrates care and sensitivity, and ensure

:25:26. > :25:33.that perpetrators of hate crimes are brought to justice and face the full

:25:34. > :25:37.weight of the law. Both weeks are time for us to celebrate the ethnic

:25:38. > :25:40.and cultural diversity of our community and it is important to

:25:41. > :25:46.note that Long gone are the days when there could have been perceived

:25:47. > :25:54.to be two or three communities here. Ireland is changing and in a really

:25:55. > :25:57.amazing way. Growth in recent years friends challenges and

:25:58. > :26:01.opportunities. We either show a strong, united voice on this issue

:26:02. > :26:03.or create a vacuum in which people draw their own conclusions which can

:26:04. > :26:09.often end up with the most damaging consequences. In recent weeks, we've

:26:10. > :26:13.seen greater need to understand each other's backgrounds, not only

:26:14. > :26:16.Catholic and Protestant but those from other ethnic minorities living

:26:17. > :26:21.in Northern Ireland. The shared future has to be for all the people

:26:22. > :26:26.of Northern Ireland. Alex Kane has rejoined me. You aren't a football

:26:27. > :26:30.fan but what about the Gulf? By the time the Open gets here in 2019, do

:26:31. > :26:37.you think we will lead still talking about flags? -- we will still be

:26:38. > :26:43.talking about flags? I think we will be. That debate is going to roll on

:26:44. > :26:45.and on way past 2019. My colleague Mark Devonport was reporting last

:26:46. > :26:50.week that the talks will start next week and I was reading earlier that

:26:51. > :26:53.the talks are now going to start next week so it doesn't appear that

:26:54. > :26:58.anyone is in any hurry to get down to brass tacks. We've had talks

:26:59. > :27:02.about whether we were going to have talks and whether we would have

:27:03. > :27:05.talks after that. They're not agreeing on anything. They said it

:27:06. > :27:12.last week in the hope that it would buy them a bit of time. The very day

:27:13. > :27:18.after Robinson announced these, they were arguing over it. They need to

:27:19. > :27:23.agree upfront, sit down the template and the blueprint. If they don't

:27:24. > :27:28.agree, there is no point even announcing talks. It is hard not to

:27:29. > :27:31.go past what Peter Robinson said some time ago - that if it takes

:27:32. > :27:35.three weeks, three months or three years, it will take as long as it

:27:36. > :27:40.takes stop a lot of people think it is going to be three years.

:27:41. > :27:45.The optimists think it will be three years. You can't go on like that. It

:27:46. > :27:48.is absolute nonsense. When he became First Minister and said he could

:27:49. > :27:51.work with Martin McGuinness, it wasn't on the basis that it might be

:27:52. > :27:55.ten years before they do anything. He sold it on the basis they could

:27:56. > :28:00.resolve the big issues. They have done diddly squat. The two of them

:28:01. > :28:03.may as well go and play Gulf for the next three years because it has been

:28:04. > :28:08.a complete and utter dereliction of duty. The Queen is coming to Belfast

:28:09. > :28:12.next week. She's going to be Martin McGuinness, which is getting to be a

:28:13. > :28:16.bit of a habit. I think she's doing it deliberately, just to annoy the

:28:17. > :28:21.hell out of him. He can't get out of it now. He has to shake her hand, no

:28:22. > :28:27.matter how often or where she turns up. More power to her elbow. Let her

:28:28. > :28:31.enjoy it. I suppose it's a way of normalising these meetings, that

:28:32. > :28:34.people get bored of the whole thing. Nobody ever gets bored of politics

:28:35. > :28:39.in Northern Ireland. That's the tragedy and the joy and it keeps me

:28:40. > :28:41.employed. We'll let you get back to the World Cup that we know you love

:28:42. > :28:44.so much. Thank you. I will be back again at

:28:45. > :28:47.the same time tomorrow night. Until then, goodbye.