:00:28. > :00:33.Hello and welcome. As boardroom salaries go through the roof, at
:00:33. > :00:39.least we know who pays them. But who is funding our political
:00:39. > :00:42.parties? Isn't it time politicians opened up their accounts? Members
:00:42. > :00:46.of the public are seriously concerned about the potential
:00:46. > :00:51.corrective influence of large donations. And what could we have
:00:51. > :00:55.possibly done to upset the enterprise minister? I find it
:00:55. > :01:01.rather strange when I watched the Stormont Live programme last night
:01:01. > :01:04.that we need to see more enterprise in Northern Ireland. And to bring a
:01:04. > :01:12.touch of college to Stormont, and joined by Nick Livingstone of the
:01:12. > :01:18.We saw some of the picture's last night of the new artwork grazing
:01:18. > :01:22.the Great Hall here at Stormont. The director of strategic
:01:22. > :01:28.development at the Arts Council is here. Why has this project come
:01:28. > :01:33.about? The Gizzi great opportunity for us to sell -- tell the story of
:01:33. > :01:39.artists from Northern Ireland, both emerging and established, and there
:01:39. > :01:45.was a lively level of interest among the MLAs. I gather they have
:01:45. > :01:49.been treating each other about their personal favourites. It will
:01:49. > :01:54.boost the reputations of the artists themselves, to show what we
:01:54. > :01:58.are doing as a development agency for the arts in Northern Ireland,
:01:58. > :02:02.and to engage with our political leaders at a critical time when we
:02:02. > :02:06.have just published a programme for government and show how the Arts
:02:06. > :02:12.Council is helping and can help to deliver some of the objectives and
:02:12. > :02:17.commitments made within that. possible to imagine that it is very
:02:17. > :02:23.difficult climate for emerging artists, because it is seen as
:02:23. > :02:29.something as a luxury, spending money on art work. There has never
:02:29. > :02:33.been uneasy time artists. But that doesn't daunt them in terms of the
:02:34. > :02:39.challenges that they want to do in investing in their careers. We
:02:39. > :02:43.believe that by buying art, not collecting for its own sake, but
:02:43. > :02:49.helping the get their careers on to a firm footing, we're getting them
:02:49. > :02:52.off to win a positive start. If you look back at some of the artists
:02:52. > :02:57.whose work is shown in this exhibition, you will see something
:02:57. > :03:03.of the great things they have achieved since. That helps us to
:03:03. > :03:09.stand out as a region, as well, as an area that is rich in terms of
:03:09. > :03:12.culture. What about the arts generally? How will you survive the
:03:12. > :03:16.cuts that are coming down the tracks? We have been accustomed to
:03:16. > :03:21.using the arts as a catalyst to try and bring about change in many
:03:21. > :03:25.areas. These are highlighted within the themes for the programme for
:03:25. > :03:28.government, and if you just take one of those areas, the emphasis on
:03:28. > :03:33.jobs and wealth creation and investment in the economy, there
:03:33. > :03:38.are lots of ways in which artists and creative people are helping to
:03:38. > :03:41.build and create new connections and helping to generate wealth
:03:41. > :03:45.within the creative industries themselves which are now in fact
:03:45. > :03:49.one of the promising areas of growth potential. Stay with us,
:03:49. > :03:55.plenty more to talk about. Should we be commemorating the
:03:55. > :04:00.Titanic disaster next year? And why has Stormont today been getting the
:04:00. > :04:02.enterprise minister a bit bothered? All was revealed during questions
:04:02. > :04:08.this afternoon, where there was also a lot of curiosity about the
:04:08. > :04:13.religious make-up of staff at St Mary's teacher-training college.
:04:13. > :04:19.Minister, quite recently you provided to me a policy statement
:04:19. > :04:24.as adapted them 22nd October 1998 by St Mary's University College.
:04:24. > :04:31.Can you explain why, on 22nd September, 2011, some 13 years
:04:31. > :04:36.later, there is only 7% Protestant workforce, and how do you plan to
:04:36. > :04:42.deal with this inequality? And do you accept that equality not only
:04:42. > :04:49.needs to be done, it needs to be seen to be done? I thank Lord
:04:49. > :04:57.Morrow for that supplementary, and they do recognise it is an equal
:04:57. > :05:01.opportunities employer, but at the same time, where only 8% of the
:05:01. > :05:08.workforce are from a Protestant background. The college does have a
:05:08. > :05:14.religious affirmative action plan which is reviewed regularly, and
:05:14. > :05:17.the college is also promoting equal employment opportunities. I do
:05:17. > :05:21.believe that St Mary's is conscious of the need to improve the
:05:21. > :05:26.situation. It is certainly something I would have concern
:05:26. > :05:30.about in terms of the balance of the workforce. It is important to
:05:30. > :05:35.have recognised there is a halt range of historical factors that
:05:35. > :05:40.have led to the situation in which we are today. But that does not
:05:40. > :05:47.mean that he doesn't have to be changed, and that change needs to
:05:47. > :05:56.come soon. But I do want to impress upon the house and Lord Morrow that
:05:56. > :06:00.some Mary's is conscious of the issue and the need to address it,.
:06:00. > :06:08.Mistake I would like to know what evidence you base the reference on,
:06:08. > :06:14.because there is no evidence to suggest that they have even
:06:14. > :06:20.commenced... I would remind you that we are on the report now.
:06:21. > :06:29.relation to the report, will that report also include an explanation
:06:30. > :06:35.as to why St Mary's won't allow students to do the Catholic
:06:35. > :06:45.certificate? It forces our students to go and have it paid for in
:06:45. > :06:45.
:06:45. > :06:49.Glasgow. Surely that is not the indication of the University?
:06:49. > :06:58.thank Mr story for his supplementary question. All I can
:06:58. > :07:03.say is that I have had a number of dealings with St Mary's. A range of
:07:03. > :07:07.issues both have a financial nature and also relating to equality of
:07:07. > :07:12.opportunity were raised by myself and by my officials. I have to say
:07:12. > :07:17.that I did find that St Mary's were engaging in a constructive and
:07:17. > :07:22.creative way, and were very alert to a number of the issues and
:07:22. > :07:27.concerns that have been raised by an number of members, and indeed in
:07:27. > :07:36.the wider community. Certainly the issue of the Catholic certificates,
:07:36. > :07:43.the differential access that exists between the students in terms is
:07:43. > :07:51.one that I am minded about, and it is certainly an issue of which St
:07:51. > :07:54.Mary's a engaged with me at the moment. Question number four.
:07:54. > :07:57.will be a momentous year for Northern Ireland were Burke series
:07:57. > :08:05.of significant dates, commemorations and anniversaries.
:08:05. > :08:10.The key anniversary will be the anniversary of the maiden voyage of
:08:10. > :08:13.the Titanic. The Titanic the bitter experience is a significant mark of
:08:13. > :08:18.the centenary. This would be an opportunity to clearly identified
:08:18. > :08:24.Belfast and Northern Ireland as the home of Titanic. A recently
:08:24. > :08:33.launched NI 2012, and exciting year-long programme of national
:08:33. > :08:36.events, includes Synek to prevent - - significant commemoration of the
:08:36. > :08:46.Titanic. The programme will provide a real platform to change
:08:46. > :08:49.
:08:49. > :08:53.perceptions of Northern Ireland on Given that 2012 will mark the loss
:08:53. > :08:59.of life associated with the sinking of the Titanic, I asked the
:08:59. > :09:04.minister why the major celebration was not the launch of the ship,
:09:04. > :09:08.which took place last year? This is about celebrating what was going on
:09:08. > :09:13.in Belfast in 2012 but commemorating the lives that were
:09:13. > :09:17.lost on the Titanic as well. I am sorry he has not seen the plans. If
:09:17. > :09:20.he had been at the all-party working group on tourism on Monday
:09:20. > :09:25.morning he would have seen plans for not only celebrating, but
:09:25. > :09:29.commemorating. It is about that balance. We want to celebrate what
:09:29. > :09:32.happened in the past and we want to look to the future for Northern
:09:32. > :09:39.Ireland and recognise the great work that happened at that time. Do
:09:39. > :09:45.not forget, she was all right when she left Belfast! Many people will
:09:45. > :09:50.be amazed that the Minister doesn't know how many of the jobs which
:09:50. > :09:55.Invest NI said they promoted over the last five years, they in fact
:09:56. > :09:59.saw created, and how many still exist? Surely that knowledge is
:09:59. > :10:04.essential to measure promise of future job creation to see how the
:10:04. > :10:11.people who are making no promises actually performed in the past. As
:10:11. > :10:14.it may be welcome that they are now beginning to put in motion of
:10:14. > :10:18.things to answer those questions, how have we live through a system
:10:18. > :10:22.where we do not know how many jobs were created? We know how many jobs
:10:22. > :10:27.were lost. Is it not time the minister knew how many were
:10:27. > :10:32.created? He just cannot acknowledge the we are dealing with this issue.
:10:32. > :10:37.Instead, he reverts back to what I read of his Radio Ulster piece of
:10:37. > :10:42.work, where he said that we were only interested in foreign direct
:10:42. > :10:46.investment. We are not. I have already detailed the number of jobs
:10:46. > :10:50.coming from our own companies, coming from business starts, from
:10:50. > :10:56.at their jobs band, but yet again a member cannot acknowledge that is
:10:56. > :10:59.the case and seeks to mislead this Assembly in relation to the 25,000
:10:59. > :11:03.jobs. This is being dealt with and it would be nice if the member
:11:03. > :11:09.could acknowledge that. One reference to BBC Radio Ulster
:11:09. > :11:14.we were not forgotten 80! I know speaking to small businesses
:11:14. > :11:18.across Northern Ireland, they are having severe access issues for
:11:18. > :11:21.funding. That is why I find it strange when watching Stormont Live
:11:21. > :11:25.last night when I heard it represented of a bank saying we
:11:25. > :11:30.needed more enterprise. That is absolutely right, we do need to see
:11:30. > :11:35.more, but wouldn't it be lovely if the Bank stepped up to the mark and
:11:35. > :11:39.held those small and medium-sized businesses to actually invest in
:11:39. > :11:43.their companies and grow? Flat to see the minister was tuning
:11:43. > :11:47.in. A government-appointed watchdog has called for more transparency
:11:47. > :11:52.over donations to Northern Ireland's political parties and a
:11:52. > :12:02.cap on donations. The identity of donors remained secret while
:12:02. > :12:04.
:12:04. > :12:08.parties in Britain must report donations of more than 7,500.
:12:08. > :12:12.The evidence is that members of the public are concerned about the
:12:12. > :12:17.potential corrupting influence of large donations on political
:12:17. > :12:21.decisions. The political parties recognise that and all three of the
:12:21. > :12:26.main ones in Westminster have committed themselves in their
:12:26. > :12:31.manifestos to read politics of big money. Our proposals are addressed
:12:31. > :12:34.to that issue, how to take big money out of politics. You have
:12:34. > :12:40.called for greater transparency, but what of the argument that for
:12:40. > :12:44.security reasons, Northern Ireland is not ready for that? I recognise
:12:44. > :12:50.the issue over security. We have not called for immediate greater to
:12:50. > :13:00.transparency, not least because recently there was a consultation
:13:00. > :13:04.of combat. -- a consultation on that. The government should now set
:13:04. > :13:09.a timetable for it moving back to normality. Do you think Northern
:13:09. > :13:13.Ireland should be exempt? I think there are many people in Northern
:13:13. > :13:17.Ireland who would like to think that normality had returned.
:13:17. > :13:21.have also highlighted the issue of Irish citizens giving donations to
:13:21. > :13:25.parties in Northern Ireland and in Britain. Why have you highlighted
:13:25. > :13:28.that issue? There are two things in in Northern Ireland which are
:13:28. > :13:32.different from the arrangements in the rest of the UK. One thing is
:13:32. > :13:41.the absence of transparency and the other is the fact that in the rest
:13:41. > :13:51.of the UK, the only people who can't do are those on the UK
:13:51. > :13:55.
:13:55. > :14:00.electoral register -- register. -- can donate. It is a special
:14:00. > :14:05.condition that we drew attention to for Northern Ireland. We suggest
:14:05. > :14:09.the Electoral Commission should now publish summary details of how much
:14:09. > :14:14.money actually flows from Irish citizens she Northern Irish
:14:14. > :14:18.political parties. If you changes go ahead will the electorate in
:14:19. > :14:23.Northern Ireland notice the difference? That is a good question.
:14:23. > :14:27.That depends upon the use of the money that would be provided. I
:14:27. > :14:34.hope they will notice a difference not just from that but also from
:14:34. > :14:40.the removal of the hint and suspicion that big money is
:14:40. > :14:46.influencing decisions in an improper way. Are you convinced
:14:46. > :14:55.your timescale will be met? We are not suggesting the big changes, the
:14:55. > :15:01.Caporn it donations and reductions in spending, should come into being
:15:01. > :15:04.until 2015. The Green Party is the only one here to publish its
:15:04. > :15:09.donations. Stephen Agnew joins us. You could say it might be easier
:15:09. > :15:14.for you because you are a smaller party? That is true. Equally, we
:15:14. > :15:19.made this decision. Green is clean. We want the voters to know who is
:15:19. > :15:25.funding our party so if there are perceived interests they can
:15:25. > :15:30.investigate them and check it out. We publish them on mind so people
:15:30. > :15:36.know her fans as and show that we are acting in their interests. --
:15:36. > :15:39.online. We also do not take corporate creations. If businesses
:15:39. > :15:43.donate to a political party they expect something at the other end
:15:43. > :15:47.and we do not believe that is in the best interests of democracy.
:15:47. > :15:55.Can you imagine big changes once they new rules come in? Our people
:15:55. > :15:59.were not entitled to privacy about political allegiances? The argument
:15:59. > :16:03.always used his about security. We have taken down watchtowers and
:16:03. > :16:08.taken shoulders -- soldiers off the street and we have said that peace
:16:08. > :16:12.is here. The one things that remains unchanged is that political
:16:12. > :16:15.donations are hidden. It means every decision is in question. Are
:16:15. > :16:22.they are acting in the best interests of the people of Northern
:16:22. > :16:27.Ireland, or of the people who fund the political parties? In my
:16:27. > :16:32.constituency, and a political party takes a side, people ask if they
:16:32. > :16:36.are funded by the developers? We do not know and I cannot answer them.
:16:36. > :16:41.This speculation will continue until we have full transparency.
:16:41. > :16:45.What about the idea of political parties getting public funding. I
:16:45. > :16:50.cannot imagine there would be public support for it? It is a case
:16:50. > :16:54.of what price do we want to put on democracy. The trade-off is, if we
:16:54. > :16:59.stop large corporate donations that the public purse makes up the money.
:16:59. > :17:03.To ensure the democratic process is operating in the interests of the
:17:03. > :17:08.people at rather than vested interests, I think a small subsidy
:17:08. > :17:12.might be worthwhile. Let's look at that. First, we need transparency
:17:12. > :17:17.in Northern Ireland to seek party - - money going into political
:17:17. > :17:21.parties. Political parties can run cheaper election campaigns. We do
:17:21. > :17:25.it on a limited budget. Other parties do not have to spend the
:17:25. > :17:30.money that they do on massive billboard campaigns and whatever
:17:30. > :17:36.else it to promote their party. It should be one person, one vote, not
:17:36. > :17:40.�1, one vote. Money could be seen to court in -- to be corrupting the
:17:40. > :17:44.political process. Last month they Health Minister
:17:44. > :17:48.announced plans to make it harder for women to opt for a Caesarean
:17:48. > :17:52.delivery. We have the highest rate in the UK. Guidelines for England
:17:52. > :17:57.have been relaxed. Man in charge of the organisation which regulates
:17:57. > :18:00.medicine is at Stormont tonight and he explained why.
:18:00. > :18:08.We are saying there might be occasional circumstances when women
:18:08. > :18:13.who are frightened to deliver vaginally, even after they have had
:18:13. > :18:19.psychological help, those so -- sort of circumstances, it is not
:18:19. > :18:24.unreasonable to deny a Caesarean section. We do not expect this to
:18:24. > :18:28.be in any way a common occurrence. It is not the Caesarean section on
:18:28. > :18:38.demand. They have Minister appears to be taking a firmer approach in
:18:38. > :18:42.
:18:42. > :18:47.I think we have to remember do but Caesarean section is now very safe,
:18:47. > :18:53.and a lot safer than some of the medical intervention, for Sirte
:18:53. > :18:57.type deliveries. I wouldn't criticise, and they think these
:18:57. > :19:02.things are very difficult. You have to have arrangements to suit your
:19:02. > :19:06.circumstances. There is not a hard and fast rule. One of the other
:19:06. > :19:12.pressing issues is the price of drugs. Is there of thing your
:19:12. > :19:17.organisation can do to reduce the price? Why we can't, no. The
:19:17. > :19:21.companies set the price they want to set, that is the current
:19:21. > :19:26.arrangement. The coalition government want to create a new way
:19:26. > :19:33.of looking at drug pricing and trying to match it better to the
:19:33. > :19:37.value that the drug brings, and they are wanting to, in a sense,
:19:37. > :19:43.work out the way in which the value of the drug is established and the
:19:43. > :19:48.price is adjusted accordingly. They have provided no details about how
:19:48. > :19:56.this is going to work, but of course the problem is that drug
:19:57. > :20:01.pricing is a reserve matter, it is a UK wider matter. So I think we
:20:01. > :20:06.are a long way off finding a solution to this. There has been
:20:06. > :20:11.this new scheme to help people try to buy art more affordable, paid
:20:11. > :20:14.off over a certain length of time. Is there any controversy and the
:20:14. > :20:19.fact that and there is a small number of galleries involved? Well
:20:19. > :20:22.the other galleries not feel their noses put out of joint?
:20:22. > :20:28.invitation is there to all galleries, both within the private
:20:28. > :20:31.sector and public, to be part of the scheme. But as a private scheme
:20:31. > :20:35.at this stage, and we are hoping to be able to stimulate the market a
:20:35. > :20:39.little bit, because one of the common complaint that we here is
:20:39. > :20:42.that things have been sluggish for the very reasons you outlined, and
:20:42. > :20:47.if we are going to make art affordable has put it in the reach
:20:47. > :20:51.of ordinary people, this is a way of doing it. This is a way to
:20:51. > :20:54.provide that level of intervention and support. How difficult is it
:20:54. > :21:02.for artists to survive in this climate? It is difficult, there is
:21:02. > :21:06.no question about it. This highlights that artists have had to
:21:06. > :21:10.become quite clever and developing the many strands to their career.
:21:10. > :21:14.They are often trying to pin down more than one job. But they have
:21:14. > :21:18.shown that they are very resourceful and capable, and the
:21:18. > :21:20.work they are doing is paying dividends in terms of opening
:21:20. > :21:24.opportunities for be but the participate in the art and get
:21:24. > :21:29.involved, and that is having benefits in education, in schools
:21:29. > :21:32.and in many other areas. process of bringing about major
:21:33. > :21:36.changes our welfare system to go step forward today as a motion
:21:36. > :21:39.which will change what is currently known as incapacity benefit passed
:21:39. > :21:44.through the house. The changes are being imposed by Westminster as
:21:44. > :21:48.part of the Welfare Reform Bill, while MLAs can voice concern about
:21:48. > :21:53.the impact of the new rules, there is where little Stormont can do to
:21:53. > :21:57.influence the legislation. Out of engagement with the labour
:21:57. > :22:01.market represents the best opportunity for the future. For
:22:02. > :22:06.those claimants have some capacity to work, taking practical steps it
:22:06. > :22:11.in the shape of care for -- carefully considered work-related
:22:11. > :22:15.activity, is the best route towards that goal. Allowing flexibility for
:22:15. > :22:20.advisers in supporting claims, was to the same time establishing a
:22:20. > :22:24.fair but effective framework around responsibility and sanctions, will
:22:24. > :22:28.be the first stepping transforming implement and service allowance
:22:28. > :22:38.into a forward looking active benefit, balancing support,
:22:38. > :22:42.obligation, flexibility and conditionality. Sinn Fein's Nicky
:22:42. > :22:49.Braidley joins us. There isn't much that any of the MLAs can do, is
:22:49. > :22:55.they? The legislation goes through at Westminster and then transfers
:22:55. > :22:58.to the assembly. In terms of the legislation, the party is a bigger
:22:58. > :23:03.issue. It is maybe something it needs to be addressed in the wider
:23:03. > :23:07.sense. In terms of what we can do, the administration of welfare
:23:07. > :23:10.reform is something we can do something about, because if you
:23:10. > :23:16.consider that the legislation itself is the biggest change since
:23:16. > :23:21.1940, certainly since the inception of the welfare state, and obviously
:23:21. > :23:24.it is going to impact on our society. It will mean huge changes.
:23:24. > :23:28.Many people are very worried about what is going to meet for their
:23:28. > :23:32.future, but at the same time there are many people who feel that the
:23:32. > :23:36.system does need to be looked at again, and this is a good thing.
:23:36. > :23:43.don't think anybody has any argument with the fact that his is
:23:43. > :23:48.better for people to seek work and then to be on benefits. And
:23:48. > :23:54.certainly that aspiration is there. The difficulty, of course, it is if
:23:54. > :23:57.we have at the moment something like 61,000 people unemployed, to
:23:57. > :24:02.introduce this kind of draconian legislation a one of the worst
:24:02. > :24:06.recessions we have experienced in many generations is going to create
:24:06. > :24:09.the huge difficulties, and people are right to be concerned, because
:24:09. > :24:15.it is going to mean huge difference is right across the board for
:24:15. > :24:20.younger people, for children, for all the people as well. We need to
:24:20. > :24:24.look at the administration of that reform and see what we can do to
:24:24. > :24:27.alleviate the impact it has on the people who live here in the north.
:24:27. > :24:31.Is there some sort of argument to have training schemes for people to
:24:31. > :24:36.try to increase even temporary training placements so that people
:24:36. > :24:43.are going off benefits and on to something? The difficulty is that
:24:43. > :24:48.as the moment, there are 76,000 people being moved from Inga Bath
:24:48. > :24:55.Dudi jobseeker's. The difficulty with doing that is it will take --
:24:55. > :25:02.from incapacity to jobseeker's. The difficulty with that is it will
:25:02. > :25:07.take several years to do. The difficulty is those people who are
:25:07. > :25:11.coming off incapacity, many have mental health problems or
:25:11. > :25:15.particular types of conditions such as autism, Parkinson's, where we
:25:15. > :25:19.have argued very strongly that staff were going to make these
:25:19. > :25:24.assessments need to be particularly well trained, because if you had
:25:24. > :25:29.someone for instance with bipolar, they may present a one-day is being
:25:29. > :25:36.find, at the next day they may not be. Those things have to be taken
:25:37. > :25:40.into account. We can certainly do something about that. We will have
:25:40. > :25:44.to leave it there, but we will come back to this topic over the next
:25:44. > :25:48.weeks and months. In just over a week, unions are good to go on
:25:48. > :25:52.strike of a pensions. Workers Fraser hiking contributions from
:25:52. > :25:59.next year. But exactly who should pay has been the subject of debate
:25:59. > :26:03.between the SLP and Sinn Fein. I think the local people --
:26:03. > :26:07.politicians are gearing up in terms of their differing responses to the
:26:07. > :26:14.one-day strike which is due next week on Wednesday. The Stormont
:26:14. > :26:18.executive said it is having to pass on the cost, and has been given no
:26:18. > :26:21.choice but the Treasury. But the Environment Minister said he
:26:21. > :26:25.thought they should be some wriggle room, because he felt that there
:26:25. > :26:29.was a local government element of the pension scheme, which covers
:26:29. > :26:32.about 44,000 workers, and this didn't have to be covered by this.
:26:32. > :26:35.He said other ministers have and taking his arguments on board
:26:35. > :26:37.previously, but he is writing to them again in the hope that they
:26:37. > :26:44.would change their mind this Thursday when there is another
:26:44. > :26:50.executive meeting. I think there is good argument, and their good
:26:50. > :26:57.government prevails. Whatever was decided in September, now is an
:26:57. > :27:03.opportunity, a week from the pension strike, to do things
:27:03. > :27:09.differently, do things better, and protect 44,000 people who are in a
:27:09. > :27:19.pension scheme, many of whom are low-paid, part-time or women. This
:27:19. > :27:19.
:27:19. > :27:25.is a chance to get things right. And reaction from to Sinn Fein MLAs.
:27:25. > :27:34.Yes, an article earlier said that Alex at which a publisher's
:27:34. > :27:38.proposal and be more specific about it. Any teachers who earn less than
:27:38. > :27:42.�32,000 a year, it is suggested, should be exempt from this public
:27:42. > :27:51.sector pension hike. But this proposal is effectively that other
:27:51. > :27:55.teachers would pay for that. It has been suggested that better-paid
:27:55. > :27:59.teachers could help out their less well-paid colleagues.
:27:59. > :28:04.potentially it could be very divisive? It is possible that
:28:04. > :28:14.teachers might not be impressed with that. It may well be seen as a
:28:14. > :28:20.divide-and-rule tactic. Sinn Fein, and also the SDLP, are very keen to
:28:20. > :28:23.be on the side of the strikers. But when it comes to health, the DUP a
:28:23. > :28:31.much more keen to come out and so that the strike action should not
:28:31. > :28:34.be taken. Nick, a final thought from you. What is the Arts
:28:35. > :28:38.Council's top priority in the coming months? There are many
:28:38. > :28:42.challenges, but thinking in terms of what is happening now, this is a
:28:43. > :28:46.defining year in terms of trying to put Northern Ireland on the map. A
:28:46. > :28:50.high priority has to be in terms of developing what we can do for the
:28:50. > :28:54.creative economy, and also to help put Northern Ireland in this
:28:54. > :28:58.critical year in terms of promoting it as a destination for visitors.
:28:58. > :29:02.Thank you very much for joining us. That is it from Stormont for now. I