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:00:25. > :00:27.Hello and welcome to Stormont Today on what was the penultimate day

:00:28. > :00:29.of debate in the Assembly chamber in this shorter than

:00:30. > :00:33.Last week, one MLA suggested the clock was counting

:00:34. > :00:35.down with a whimper, but today there was still plenty

:00:36. > :00:39.of important business to be discussed on the hill.

:00:40. > :00:42.Sinn Fein unveiled its new Stormont leader and in the chamber MLAs spent

:00:43. > :00:44.more than six hours discussing the Renewable Heat

:00:45. > :00:47.So, coming up on tonight's programme...

:00:48. > :00:55.She's just into the top job and weeks from an election,

:00:56. > :00:58.but Michelle O'Neill is already sure how she wants to move forward.

:00:59. > :01:00.Accusations after the RHI scandal rumble on during another marathon

:01:01. > :01:07.Agreements must be honoured. Partnership government must mean

:01:08. > :01:08.exactly that. Accusations after the RHI scandal

:01:09. > :01:19.rumble on during another marathon I am suspended from the party for

:01:20. > :01:24.telling the truth about people in the front bench and those behind

:01:25. > :01:25.them are guilty of far more serious inappropriate relationships and

:01:26. > :01:26.behaviour than I am. And joining me with his thoughts

:01:27. > :01:29.on another busy day in the Assembly is our Political Correspondent,

:01:30. > :01:37.Enda McClafferty. Everyone knew it would

:01:38. > :01:40.be announced today - but no-one could be absolutely sure

:01:41. > :01:43.who it would be. Sinn Fein named Martin McGuinness's

:01:44. > :01:50.successor as party leader north of the border and,

:01:51. > :01:53.as the bookies had been suggesting in recent days,

:01:54. > :01:55.it was indeed Michelle O'Neill Here's what she had to say to party

:01:56. > :01:59.activists and the media just after lunchtime,

:02:00. > :02:10.and just to warn you there is some For me to be selected to lead our

:02:11. > :02:15.party in the North is truly the biggest honour and privilege of my

:02:16. > :02:19.life. I feel an enormous responsibility on my shoulders and

:02:20. > :02:24.while I do not are never underestimate my task given the

:02:25. > :02:27.changing political work locally, nationally and internationally, I

:02:28. > :02:31.will not let you down. These are challenging times and we have set

:02:32. > :02:35.ourselves a big objectives, but Republicans have never been afraid

:02:36. > :02:41.of a challenge. I have never been afraid of challenge and I have never

:02:42. > :02:45.been afraid to act. As Sinn Fein Minister for agriculture and rural

:02:46. > :02:49.development I decentralised an entire government department, Lock,

:02:50. > :02:53.stock and barrel. When the system told me it could not be done. As

:02:54. > :02:57.Minister for health I ended the DUP's discrimination against gay men

:02:58. > :03:02.donating blood and I did it because it was the right thing to do. Over

:03:03. > :03:06.the course of the last number of weeks, one others have shouted from

:03:07. > :03:10.the sidelines, it was Sinn Fein who stood up and confronted corruption.

:03:11. > :03:16.It was Sinn Fein who called a halt to the arrogance and intolerance. In

:03:17. > :03:21.the aftermath of the election, there can and there will be no return to

:03:22. > :03:25.the status quo. What does that mean? It means Sinn Fein are only

:03:26. > :03:29.interested in participating in a power-sharing institutions if they

:03:30. > :03:32.deliver for all of our citizens and if they operate on the basis of

:03:33. > :03:40.equality and respect. Agreements must be honoured. Commitments must

:03:41. > :03:44.be delivered. Partnership government must mean exactly that. It means

:03:45. > :03:48.that regardless of where you come from, what language you speak, what

:03:49. > :03:49.your sexuality is, what gender you are, that you are treated with

:03:50. > :03:50.respect. Michelle O'Neil according

:03:51. > :03:53.to Martin McGuinness has been Unlike him she does not have an IRA

:03:54. > :04:10.past, but did we learn anything It was interesting but Martin

:04:11. > :04:15.McGuinness took some time to set out Republican pedigree before regard to

:04:16. > :04:18.the point when he talked about her role in leadership. He talked about

:04:19. > :04:22.her father, he was a Republican prisoner. He was a councillor in

:04:23. > :04:28.Dungannon. We know her uncle is involved in the movement which

:04:29. > :04:32.fundraisers for Sinn Fein. We also knows that a cousin of hers was an

:04:33. > :04:36.IRA man shot dead by the SS. She takes a lot of the boxes when it

:04:37. > :04:38.comes to grassroot Republicans and what they would like to see in terms

:04:39. > :04:40.of her past and family. There are big challenges piling up

:04:41. > :04:53.in Michelle O'Neill's in-tray. There will be a short honeymoon

:04:54. > :04:56.period because she has this election to fight and she knows she will be

:04:57. > :05:00.in charge of a much smaller party at Stormont because of the fact that

:05:01. > :05:05.you can analyse will not be returning after George II. She knows

:05:06. > :05:08.the group would be smaller, but she also knows that the party faces a

:05:09. > :05:13.big challenge from people before profit in west Belfast and in foil.

:05:14. > :05:16.She knows in foil the party will be facing a bit of a dogfight for the

:05:17. > :05:21.last seat because we know Eamon McCann pulled well last time and we

:05:22. > :05:25.know Martin McGuinness is not on the ballot paper and that could have a

:05:26. > :05:29.big bearing on the outcome of the election and it could come down to

:05:30. > :05:32.the last seat between Sinn Fein and people before profit. There are

:05:33. > :05:33.areas like that when the chalets will face a big fight.

:05:34. > :05:36.We know the DUP in the last election used the prospect

:05:37. > :05:38.of Martin McGuinness becoming First Minister to mobilise

:05:39. > :05:40.its voters, what happens with that this time around,

:05:41. > :05:48.now that there's a new leader in charge?

:05:49. > :05:54.The so-called bogeyman is gone for the DUP because last time they built

:05:55. > :05:57.their campaign around Martin McGuinness as being the big threat

:05:58. > :06:00.to them in terms of becoming First Minister. This time round I would

:06:01. > :06:04.imagine the tactic would be different because it is Michelle

:06:05. > :06:07.O'Neill they are taking on. You can hear the language already talking

:06:08. > :06:11.about taking on the Republican agenda. It is not about

:06:12. > :06:15.personalities, it is about the republican movement as a whole in

:06:16. > :06:17.terms of what they want at Stormont around the Irish lumberjack and

:06:18. > :06:21.other bills they are proposing to take forward to which unionists

:06:22. > :06:27.would have difficulty with. That will beat the strategy employed by

:06:28. > :06:31.the DUP. Here in Northern Ireland, three of the main parties are led by

:06:32. > :06:40.women. We have Michelle O'Neill, Arlene Foster and Naomi Long. Very

:06:41. > :06:44.clear in here. Mary Lou McDonald was here as well. You could see that

:06:45. > :06:50.this felt like a changing of the guard within Sinn Fein. Gerry Adams

:06:51. > :06:55.is likely to handover party Mary Lou McDonald at some stage. Martin

:06:56. > :06:58.McGuinness has done that with Michelle O'Neill. We could see the

:06:59. > :07:00.three big party figures on the island of Ireland in the not too

:07:01. > :07:12.distant future. It is significant. MLAs spent most of today debating

:07:13. > :07:14.the plan by the economy minister to cut ?490 million loss to the public

:07:15. > :07:15.purse of the renewable heating scheme.

:07:16. > :07:19.The debate started in the chamber a week ago, but was halted to give

:07:20. > :07:29.The design process by officials and consultants field. The business case

:07:30. > :07:33.scrutiny process did not identify the problems. All of the evidence

:07:34. > :07:36.given to the committee did not inform the recommendation. Remember,

:07:37. > :07:42.the committee recommended the design of this. This house, all of the

:07:43. > :07:51.parties across this house supported the original, flawed, scheme. The

:07:52. > :07:54.member might recall that party colleague, William McCrea, used to

:07:55. > :08:02.sing a little song called excuses, excuses. Does that not some up

:08:03. > :08:06.exactly her speech and that of Mr done this morning? Trying to spread

:08:07. > :08:14.the blame to everyone else and running away from the reality. It

:08:15. > :08:20.was Arlene Foster and Arlene Foster alone who was the minister and alone

:08:21. > :08:25.signed of this scheme without the cost controls. No matter who else

:08:26. > :08:31.you might try to smear, that is the irreducible reality. Thank you for

:08:32. > :08:35.your comment in relation to this. I had hoped you would have listened to

:08:36. > :08:42.what I have said and what I said was this, this is not, all of the

:08:43. > :08:46.evidence, I do think this has to go above and beyond party politics. We

:08:47. > :08:50.have got to step back and look objectively at the evidence before

:08:51. > :08:54.us. At the evidence in front of the DAC. The evidence we have all heard.

:08:55. > :08:59.This was not the feeling of a single individual. Indeed, I listened to

:09:00. > :09:02.the permanent Secretary, Doctor Andrew McCormick, he was at

:09:03. > :09:09.committee earlier today and effectively what he was saying was

:09:10. > :09:14.what we have here is the best available. Very different from good,

:09:15. > :09:20.very different from sound, solid, as good as it gets. Just, within the

:09:21. > :09:26.context, this is the best available. I think that is a fair assessment. I

:09:27. > :09:30.would also say Doctor McCormick has done more than anybody I have heard

:09:31. > :09:34.over the last number of weeks to try to maintain the integrity of these

:09:35. > :09:41.devolved institutions and I thank him for that. Today, the committee

:09:42. > :09:44.had the opportunity to shift their position from them did the

:09:45. > :09:50.regulations to prevent the regulations. They did not. The

:09:51. > :09:54.minister did not turn up. The member needs to be unaware that her party

:09:55. > :10:00.did vote against the proposal to close the scheme last February. That

:10:01. > :10:04.is a fact. You can say you like, you voted against that, as did the

:10:05. > :10:07.Ulster Unionist party, the closure of the scheme, despite repeated

:10:08. > :10:11.warnings about the cost that was going to be accrued and lost to the

:10:12. > :10:15.public purse. Your party voted against closing the scheme. The

:10:16. > :10:20.simple fact. I know you want at the time, so it is not your fault. Your

:10:21. > :10:24.party as a party and other members who are still here and you were here

:10:25. > :10:31.last year did vote to oppose the scheme. On that date, when the SDLP

:10:32. > :10:37.presented themselves here, they, like other members in this house,

:10:38. > :10:42.were very mindful that the quick execution and the early closure of

:10:43. > :10:50.that scheme was placing legitimate businesses and legitimate access to

:10:51. > :10:54.the scheme, that was putting them at risk, because there were people who

:10:55. > :10:59.had signed up to a very good, worthwhile scheme at that stage. I

:11:00. > :11:05.will finish my point. A very good, worthwhile scheme at that time.

:11:06. > :11:09.Those businesses were in the process of realising orders coming into

:11:10. > :11:15.their businesses. They were in the process of installing these boilers

:11:16. > :11:20.and, again, I repeat, with the measures in place that should have

:11:21. > :11:27.been there from the outset. So, your little red Herring has just died.

:11:28. > :11:30.For the avoidance of any doubt that people would say to me that he did

:11:31. > :11:36.not speak until very late, I have a letter to the First Minister. A

:11:37. > :11:45.letter to Arlene Foster dated 23rd of March 20 16. Three pages of a

:11:46. > :11:49.four, I give her my permission to put into the Assembly library and

:11:50. > :11:54.make public. The first paragraph of that, after the introduction, was in

:11:55. > :12:01.the renewable heat initiative. The first paragraph refers to the fact

:12:02. > :12:06.that the special advisers advised me to keep the scheme open. All of the

:12:07. > :12:12.difficulties in the 23rd of March 2016, given to Arlene Foster. It

:12:13. > :12:16.surprises me when you see the contents of this letter that I am

:12:17. > :12:21.suspended from the party for telling the truth while people on the front

:12:22. > :12:23.bench and those behind them are guilty of far more serious,

:12:24. > :12:31.inappropriate relationships and behaviour than I am. Far more

:12:32. > :12:37.serious. We have a prize in one hand of some reduction in the public

:12:38. > :12:44.spend, but we have the risk on the other hand of litigation, of

:12:45. > :12:52.judicial review and a further waste of public money on expensive legal

:12:53. > :12:55.challenges. With publication of the Auditor General report ought last

:12:56. > :12:58.October with the publication of the PricewaterhouseCoopers report, they

:12:59. > :13:03.could have brought forward the food plan the public deserves. Could he

:13:04. > :13:07.explain why he, as committee chairman, has been absent from the

:13:08. > :13:11.committee for the economy and by his two party colleagues have not

:13:12. > :13:15.bothered to turn up? If his only issue with Sinn Fein is our

:13:16. > :13:19.attendance at committee meetings when we recognised the full scale of

:13:20. > :13:23.the impact in terms of these institutions, in terms of public

:13:24. > :13:28.finance, in terms of public confidence that this scheme has

:13:29. > :13:31.brought to this Assembly then the member is living in cloud cuckoo

:13:32. > :13:35.land. This has been a disastrous scheme from start to finish. The

:13:36. > :13:39.Handling has been disastrous, they provoked -- B proposal is not the

:13:40. > :13:41.proposition outlined by the First Minister a couple of weeks ago. This

:13:42. > :13:51.is a sticking plaster The real scandal here is that while

:13:52. > :13:57.we have people unable to heat their homes and struggling to feed their

:13:58. > :14:02.family, we have Barnes being raided by the police, empty Barnes, Mr

:14:03. > :14:13.Speaker, with steam rising off them in the snow. I want that to stop. We

:14:14. > :14:17.will not block these proposals today, despite our serious

:14:18. > :14:22.reservations, and I hope that these proposals are a success, not for the

:14:23. > :14:27.Minister and not for his party, but for the sake of the public who

:14:28. > :14:34.ultimately are paying the price for this debacle, though they carry none

:14:35. > :14:38.of the responsibility for it. I, am I department, have cooperated fully

:14:39. > :14:42.with the Department of Finance and asked -- answered all questions and

:14:43. > :14:50.queries and provided all requested information and yet no approval has

:14:51. > :14:54.been forthcoming. The business case process is there to assess value for

:14:55. > :14:59.money and also regularity and I understand that there have been no

:15:00. > :15:03.issues raised in respect of either. I know the Finance minister is just

:15:04. > :15:09.coming into the house and I would be happy to give way to him if he was

:15:10. > :15:13.to offer approval for the scheme. The areas of concern remain state

:15:14. > :15:19.aid approval and the fact that we do not have state aid approval. I know

:15:20. > :15:23.that the commission has been contacted. I do have some concerns

:15:24. > :15:32.in that regard. The scheme can't kick off on April one without the

:15:33. > :15:37.stated approval. Also, as the Minister knows, major concerns

:15:38. > :15:40.around the inspection regime, and I'm sure the Minister will accept

:15:41. > :15:47.and it will be in his narrative later that without rigorous, robust,

:15:48. > :15:52.100% inspections, this interim solution will fall. I don't have a

:15:53. > :15:56.business plan for the inspections regime, I do think it is like a

:15:57. > :16:02.horse and carriage, both go together. The Minister knows that

:16:03. > :16:07.state aid approval cannot be sought, and will not be given unless there

:16:08. > :16:12.is both public finance approval and approval of this house. I am

:16:13. > :16:18.reluctant to say it is a chicken and egg type situation given the issue

:16:19. > :16:21.we are debating, but it is. The inspection regime minister is also

:16:22. > :16:26.well aware of our intentions in respect of taking forward a tender

:16:27. > :16:29.for 100% site inspection, and I will give him the commitment to continue

:16:30. > :16:38.to work with his officials, as long as they response to that in good

:16:39. > :16:40.faith and does keep this issue politics three, which is

:16:41. > :16:41.unfortunately not a conclusion at this stage.

:16:42. > :16:43.And that motion eventually passed on an oral vote.

:16:44. > :16:45.There was just one question time today, education.

:16:46. > :16:48.Questions were supposed to be asked of the Executive Office,

:16:49. > :16:51.but despite Michelle O'Neill getting the new top job in Sinn Fein,

:16:52. > :16:53.neither the First nor Deputy First Minister's positions

:16:54. > :17:02.So, Peter Weir was the lone Minister facing the Assembly.

:17:03. > :17:11.I am disappointed that the NUS UWT are engaged in ongoing industrial

:17:12. > :17:14.action. A recognised negotiating forum for teachers terms and

:17:15. > :17:19.conditions as the teachers negotiating Council that the

:17:20. > :17:21.department represents. It is made up of representatives from the Northern

:17:22. > :17:30.Ireland teaching Council, comprising the five teaching unions and the

:17:31. > :17:34.management size which comprises representatives from education

:17:35. > :17:37.authority, C CMS, sectoral interests and the Department. Management side

:17:38. > :17:45.meets regularly with the teaching Council as part of its work on TMC

:17:46. > :17:49.and it is committed to moving forward in a constructive fashion.

:17:50. > :17:54.Can you outline any actions you are taken to ensure teachers will be

:17:55. > :17:57.adequately played -- paid and work on the conditions and appropriate

:17:58. > :18:03.support to deliver education for our children and young people. Number of

:18:04. > :18:06.things in relation to that. In terms of workload there is a key issue

:18:07. > :18:11.that has been raised by a lot of teachers with May and whenever we

:18:12. > :18:17.have sought anything from schools and collated responses in terms of

:18:18. > :18:19.not simply where there could be additional responsibility or

:18:20. > :18:28.opportunity, but a greater level of flexibility for schools. Why it was

:18:29. > :18:32.sore, not simply that, but also in terms of suggestions of easing

:18:33. > :18:35.burdens. It is a tight financial situation and looking well began

:18:36. > :18:42.these burdens on schools and teachers is important as well. I am

:18:43. > :18:46.also a bit disappointed for those unions that have taken the view of

:18:47. > :18:50.non-spike action -- strike action that there is an impact in terms of

:18:51. > :18:54.non-cooperation around the Inspectorate that can impact on

:18:55. > :18:57.pupils learning. As regards the broader financial situation I think

:18:58. > :19:02.it is important that there is a focus of where we move from 2017

:19:03. > :19:06.because it isn't a big pot of money sitting somewhere that is ready to

:19:07. > :19:10.be paid to make up for what has happened to date. With the Minister

:19:11. > :19:21.agree that the potential for a resolution to teachers Bay has been

:19:22. > :19:23.compromised due to the shenanigans in this assembly? Is the Minister

:19:24. > :19:26.confident a resolution with some post-election when he abandoned his

:19:27. > :19:29.post? I am not sure that abandoning is quite the right word on that side

:19:30. > :19:35.of things, although clearly we have had in terms of issues around the

:19:36. > :19:38.broader perspective, the fact that the executive has been collapsed by

:19:39. > :19:43.one party and in particular it has been done ahead of any budget

:19:44. > :19:47.settlement is not helpful to the overall situation. I think the

:19:48. > :19:50.opportunity for a greater level of resolution and a greater level of

:19:51. > :19:54.result the Matiz that people look forward to 2017 and is not realistic

:19:55. > :19:59.that there is a pot of money out there to cover the situation between

:20:00. > :20:03.2015 and now, or to backdate that. It is the case that it is not just a

:20:04. > :20:07.question of finding a one-off pot. If you make changes to the pay and

:20:08. > :20:10.conditions it is actually having a long-term impact in terms of school

:20:11. > :20:14.budgets and it places a level of pressure on the baselines within

:20:15. > :20:18.that so that must be borne in mind. I think the opportunities for that

:20:19. > :20:25.will be potentially looking forward to 2017. The reality is wait it is

:20:26. > :20:30.myself or someone else impose the issues remain the same. I think

:20:31. > :20:34.simply a belief that if there is a change of personality is that it

:20:35. > :20:38.will suddenly make resolution very easy, I don't think, I think that in

:20:39. > :20:41.many ways misunderstands the nature of the problem.

:20:42. > :20:43.Peter Weir on the continuing stand-off on teachers' pay.

:20:44. > :20:45.The day's business opened with a Matter of the Day

:20:46. > :20:49.about the gun attack on a police officer in North Belfast last night.

:20:50. > :20:52.The officer was shot at least twice in the arm while in a car

:20:53. > :20:57.MLAs united in their condemnation of the shooting.

:20:58. > :21:04.It could easily have been talking about death here today, and a family

:21:05. > :21:12.suffering that death, instead of hopefully the recovery that we are

:21:13. > :21:15.going to see. It could also have been in the open court of the

:21:16. > :21:22.Garrard, other people killed or maimed in that. Let me condemn it

:21:23. > :21:26.absolutely and let me also say as a representative for the area and all

:21:27. > :21:30.the other representatives of that area will be in one voice that

:21:31. > :21:34.people that vote for us, and I mean that right across the board, are

:21:35. > :21:37.absolutely opposed to the people who are involved in this. There are many

:21:38. > :21:42.issues that divide us in this house but it is clear today that there is

:21:43. > :21:46.an issue that unites us, and that is our unreserved condemnation of what

:21:47. > :21:51.took place last night. The truth this violence has no place in our

:21:52. > :21:55.society. All it serves to do is to create heartache, pain and

:21:56. > :22:00.suffering, and as each and every one of us in this house knows, there are

:22:01. > :22:06.far too many families in our constituencies who endure that pain

:22:07. > :22:11.and suffering on a daily basis. This was not an attack on an individual

:22:12. > :22:15.police officer or an attack on the PSNI, this was an attack on our

:22:16. > :22:19.entire community. It says all that we need to know about the kind of

:22:20. > :22:23.people who were involved, that they would attempt to kill a person who

:22:24. > :22:27.was serving their community and do so with such reckless disregard for

:22:28. > :22:31.the community in which they serve. These people are nothing but

:22:32. > :22:35.despicable cowards. They have nothing to offer the people of

:22:36. > :22:40.Northern Ireland. Mr Speaker, I have no doubt that this attack was

:22:41. > :22:43.intended to kill. Thankfully the officer is in a stable condition but

:22:44. > :22:47.we could have been hearing the loss of life this morning. This is not

:22:48. > :22:52.just an attack on our police service, it is an attack on the

:22:53. > :22:57.community, an attack on our country. It was reckless, multiple automatic

:22:58. > :23:01.rounds fired into a public safe -- space and I am disgusted. This is

:23:02. > :23:04.the first shooting of a police officer that eight years in Northern

:23:05. > :23:10.Ireland, clearly an attempt by evil people to kill police and also the

:23:11. > :23:13.general public. Totally random and indiscriminate, as others have said,

:23:14. > :23:24.gunfire into a forecourt of a Garrard Jinnah built-up area -- a

:23:25. > :23:31.forecourt of a garaged. There were 12 members of the general public and

:23:32. > :23:34.the police there at the time. This is my last opportunity to speak to

:23:35. > :23:40.this assembly. Some of you may be glad to know that I am retiring from

:23:41. > :23:44.politics, but I hope that in the next assembly no politician has to

:23:45. > :23:49.stand up and condemn a murderous attack on a police officer. Anyone

:23:50. > :23:55.who is prepared to wear the uniform should get the support of this

:23:56. > :24:00.assembly. I pledge my support to the Police Service of Northern Ireland,

:24:01. > :24:01.incorporating the Royal Ulster Constabulary, and I hope that

:24:02. > :24:02.everyone else does. Ross Hussey, who said he'll not be

:24:03. > :24:05.standing for re-election. We return now to the Sinn Fein news

:24:06. > :24:09.conference and before handing over the reins of power Martin McGuinness

:24:10. > :24:12.gave a little more insight into why he was stepping down and thanked

:24:13. > :24:15.Ian Paisley for comments he made on last week's edition of The View,

:24:16. > :24:18.and again there were plenty of cameras flashing

:24:19. > :24:28.as Mr McGuinness spoke. I had made a decision well in

:24:29. > :24:37.advance of the particular circumstances that affect me at the

:24:38. > :24:40.moment, that come May eight of this year, that would've been the tenth

:24:41. > :24:45.anniversary of going into government with Ian Paisley, that that was the

:24:46. > :24:54.right time for me to stand aside, so that a decision that I would have

:24:55. > :24:59.stood by. Circumstances have intervened, the calling of the

:25:00. > :25:02.election, the scandals that have existed, and of course we find

:25:03. > :25:10.ourselves in a situation where it is physically impossible for me to

:25:11. > :25:16.continue until May the 8th and I regret that very much because I have

:25:17. > :25:24.very fond memories of working with Ian Paisley for that year that he

:25:25. > :25:27.was in the office. I have very fond memories of not just building a

:25:28. > :25:29.positive working relationship with him but we actually built a

:25:30. > :25:36.friendship that was a real friendship that lasted until the day

:25:37. > :25:40.he died, and they also want to pay tribute to Ian Paisley Junior and to

:25:41. > :25:44.Eileen Paisley, Ian 's wife Andy Carroll Paisley for their remarks

:25:45. > :25:52.during the course of last week. They are all good friends, and they are

:25:53. > :25:53.all people who like Ian were very dedicated and committed to the

:25:54. > :25:55.success of the peace process. Martin McGuinness speaking

:25:56. > :25:57.in Stormont's Long And let's have a final

:25:58. > :26:00.word from Enda. No surprise that Mr McGuinness

:26:01. > :26:02.should show his gratitude to the Paisley family for their warm

:26:03. > :26:12.words about him last week, Enda. Yes, this was his first opportunity

:26:13. > :26:15.to publicly acknowledge what was said by Ian Paisley, Kyle Paisley

:26:16. > :26:20.and Baroness Paisley. What Ian Paisley told you on the view last

:26:21. > :26:24.week. He was also listening to Kyle Paisley 's interview on BBC Radio

:26:25. > :26:27.four as well of the interview with Baroness Paisley on talkback and it

:26:28. > :26:31.is clear from what he had to say that his relationship with them runs

:26:32. > :26:34.very deep and as he talked about there whenever Dr Paisley was in

:26:35. > :26:38.hospital and they exchanged texts and so on, so it is pretty clear

:26:39. > :26:39.that what was said by the Paisley struck a chord with Martin

:26:40. > :26:40.McGuinness. We heard today that the Ulster

:26:41. > :26:49.Unionist Ross Hussey Well, Ross Hussey would say himself

:26:50. > :26:53.that he is in poor health and he needs to get to need replacements

:26:54. > :26:56.and he said in a statement today that that is why he has decided to

:26:57. > :27:00.step down because he knows it will be a long recovery period for that

:27:01. > :27:03.and he will essentially be out of politics during that time so it has

:27:04. > :27:07.taken the decision now that he would be better out outside of politics to

:27:08. > :27:12.allow time to recover but of course he was a subject of a sting

:27:13. > :27:16.operation by a Sunday newspaper some months ago when he sent nude photos

:27:17. > :27:20.of himself to an undercover reporter Andy talked about it today described

:27:21. > :27:24.as an indiscretion but he said that was not why he was stepping down

:27:25. > :27:28.from politics, it was purely on the grounds of the South. -- of his

:27:29. > :27:29.health. And also missing from the chamber

:27:30. > :27:32.will be the SDLP's Gerry Mullan. He's being replaced on the ballot

:27:33. > :27:34.paper in East Londonderry by his predecessor, John Dallat,

:27:35. > :27:40.but all is not well Yes, that's for sure. It's not the

:27:41. > :27:44.first time we have said that, coming up to an election there seems to be

:27:45. > :27:49.infighting within the SDLP. It comes down to a clash of personalities

:27:50. > :27:52.between these men and it goes back to the employment of John Downer 's

:27:53. > :27:56.daughter in Gerry Mullins office and he employed her when he took over

:27:57. > :28:00.from John Dallek in the last election and she was let go from the

:28:01. > :28:04.office and that did not go well with that family and they stopped

:28:05. > :28:08.speaking from that particular point forward. Now the opportunity is come

:28:09. > :28:11.round again for him to put his hat in the ring again and there was an

:28:12. > :28:15.interview panel over the weekend that decided who would run and John

:28:16. > :28:19.Downer came out on top there and Jerry Mullin is unhappy and says he

:28:20. > :28:25.is disappointed and taking legal advice. We know he has been in storm

:28:26. > :28:28.on talking to the party leader and let him know about what is

:28:29. > :28:31.happening. This is not good for the party because if they are to retain

:28:32. > :28:34.their seat in East Londonderry they need all their foot soldiers on the

:28:35. > :28:37.ground in the last thing they can afford right now is to be not

:28:38. > :28:41.pulling in the same direction for the various workers who do work on

:28:42. > :28:42.the ground. Interesting times, that is for sure.

:28:43. > :28:45.The Assembly is sitting tomorrow and we'll have a Stormont Today

:28:46. > :28:58.So for now, from everyone in the team, good night.

:28:59. > :29:01.The View holds politicians to account and we ask

:29:02. > :29:04.the questions that our audiences want answers to.

:29:05. > :29:08.We reflect what's happening in the political world but I think we also

:29:09. > :29:12.set the agenda in the interviews that we conduct on the programme.

:29:13. > :29:16.I always assume that an interviewee is telling the truth