:00:41. > :00:51.How well and thank you. I don't know what it is about this low.
:00:51. > :00:52.
:00:52. > :01:00.They are pretending they like me. Thank you so much bordering on us.
:01:00. > :01:03.Here is what is coming up. Lope in syndrome sufferer born in the
:01:03. > :01:10.Clinton is fighting in court for the right to end his own life.
:01:10. > :01:19.Should he be allowed to do so? We go under cover to expose a crooked
:01:19. > :01:29.car dealer, cheating the public by selling vehicles that have been
:01:29. > :01:31.
:01:31. > :01:41.clocked. Allotted was an irreverent take on the Catholic church. --
:01:41. > :01:45.
:01:45. > :01:55.Father Ted. Ardal O'Hanlon joins us. And what on earth is going on, up
:01:55. > :02:01.on the hill, about tickets for the Jubilee party? All will be revealed
:02:01. > :02:07.later. Thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. We have a
:02:07. > :02:17.packed sure. And there are lots of ways for you to get involved at
:02:17. > :02:39.
:02:39. > :02:43.Miserable, demeaning, and dignified and intolerable. The words of Tony
:02:43. > :02:49.Nicholson, a sufferer of locked-in syndrome. He has gone to court to
:02:49. > :02:53.try to win the right to in his life. Having a stroke in 2005 left him
:02:53. > :03:02.paralysed below the neck and unable to speak. He communicates by
:03:02. > :03:08.blinking. Should he have the legal right to decide when de end his
:03:08. > :03:15.life? Tony and his wife during a live from their home in Wiltshire.
:03:15. > :03:20.-- joins me live. Thank you for talking to us this evening. Jean,
:03:20. > :03:28.you are pushing this on behalf of pony and the family. Can you just
:03:28. > :03:35.tell me why -- Tony. Can you tell me why you do not what your has
:03:35. > :03:41.been to continue with his life? Because it is his wish. None of us
:03:42. > :03:48.have pushed him into it. We are just doing what he wants. Tony can
:03:48. > :03:54.communicate, it is difficult, but he can - how does he do it? He uses
:03:54. > :04:01.a board, this Perspex board, he looks at letters and collars and he
:04:01. > :04:11.blinks and he gets billboards it. Can you ask Tony why live with you
:04:11. > :04:30.
:04:30. > :04:40.and his family is not what going on with? Letter I H A V E To Suffer.
:04:40. > :05:00.
:05:00. > :05:06.Every. Day. And. I. Have. Had. Enough. I have to suffer every day
:05:06. > :05:11.and I have had enough. I am certainly no one could judge. It
:05:12. > :05:16.will be interesting to see what you think at home tonight. You will see
:05:16. > :05:26.the details coming up on the screen about how to contact us. Tony, when
:05:26. > :05:59.
:05:59. > :06:09.you said "suffer", can you define I'm. Fed. Like. A. Baby. I. Go. To.
:06:09. > :06:09.
:06:09. > :07:03.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 53 seconds
:07:03. > :07:13.The. Toilet. In. A. Sling. And. Generally. Pushed. Around. To. Get.
:07:13. > :07:18.
:07:18. > :07:23.Showered. A... You get a general idea? I do, yes. I could have
:07:23. > :07:28.recorded the segment this evening. But, I wanted to convey the reality
:07:28. > :07:35.of communicating between you has been that yourself. Some people
:07:35. > :07:40.would say, look at the law than devotion, look at the interaction
:07:40. > :07:47.between you and your husband -- the love and devotion, and that you are
:07:47. > :07:54.doing so much for him. Is that not what life is about? It is not
:07:54. > :08:00.enough for him. Some people have said, is he not wanting to go,
:08:00. > :08:08.being selfish? I would be selfish, trying to keep him here, because
:08:08. > :08:14.his like here is intolerable. intolerable for you, too? For me,
:08:14. > :08:19.seen him like that, yes. I understand how he feels. We have
:08:19. > :08:27.been talking about this for a very long time and he has never wavered
:08:27. > :08:30.in his decision. It is what he wants. All I can do is support him.
:08:30. > :08:38.And you're fighting a case for Tony to have the right to decide how he
:08:38. > :08:48.will die. That is happening now. Yes, it is. The Act must be a lot
:08:48. > :08:48.
:08:49. > :08:52.of pressure. -- that must be. not too bad. We have been well
:08:52. > :08:57.prepared by the legal team about what would happen and we have a
:08:57. > :09:02.long way to go, but we are determined to see it through.
:09:02. > :09:12.has prepared a statement about the case. We can hear that statement
:09:12. > :09:44.
:09:44. > :09:47.AUTOMATED VOICE READS. I know that you have stayed up late to talk to
:09:47. > :09:52.us, Tony, and I want to wish you all the best in the direction that
:09:52. > :10:02.you going, with your life and with your family. Thank you for staying
:10:02. > :10:11.
:10:11. > :10:19.up late and talking to us, here in It is pretty, sorry, that has gone,
:10:20. > :10:25.it is easier to make a decision on what Tony should do. He was a
:10:26. > :10:32.birdie at the man, and he had a stroke, and that is why he is left.
:10:32. > :10:39.Imagine that wars you. What would you want for you? -- that was you.
:10:39. > :10:48.The numbers are coming up on screen for you to get in contact with us.
:10:48. > :10:55.We have a gentleman to it from the back he wants to speak. -- but from
:10:55. > :10:59.the back -- third from. He should definitely have the right. He is
:10:59. > :11:05.infinitely suffering. He is an intelligent man. He should have the
:11:05. > :11:12.right to choose. And yet, you think about the sanctity of life, how
:11:12. > :11:18.precious life is. That man is communicating. What if it was not a
:11:18. > :11:25.loving family? How would he be protected? He is just communicating
:11:25. > :11:29.and no more. He's not living a life. He is really suffering. He really
:11:29. > :11:36.wants to take his own life go stop he's intelligent enough to make his
:11:37. > :11:46.own decision. He should be able to do it. Kevin Fitzpatrick is with us,
:11:47. > :11:48.
:11:48. > :11:53.who is from an organisation a post to assist the suicide. -- opposed
:11:53. > :12:03.to assisted suicide. What do you say about that man, taking a we his
:12:03. > :12:09.
:12:09. > :12:13.I am not, I was not and I have no intention of trying to interfere
:12:13. > :12:18.with Tony Nicholson's decision about his life or his death. The
:12:18. > :12:23.issue for us, the big issue for us as a group of disabled people and
:12:23. > :12:29.others, who are contesting not Tony Nick Mullins and's individual
:12:29. > :12:35.choice, but what he's after... What he is after is a change to the law
:12:35. > :12:41.of murder in this country. That change will bring catastrophic
:12:41. > :12:49.differences. Protections could be built in. Unfortunately, that is
:12:49. > :12:53.not the case. How could protection not be built in, so there is an
:12:53. > :12:56.assessment of what the individual wants, what the next of kin would
:12:56. > :13:02.want. There would then be independent assessments from
:13:02. > :13:09.doctors, the medical professions, the psychometric have -- the
:13:09. > :13:16.psychiatric profession. Why is it not enough? It is because
:13:16. > :13:21.fundamentally, it would change the relationship between the doctor and
:13:22. > :13:31.the patient in a way where the doctor will be legally entitled to
:13:32. > :13:37.
:13:38. > :13:43.kill patients. Safety for Tony is dying, in his view. That is not the
:13:43. > :13:49.issue. The issue is this. What actually happens, when you change
:13:49. > :13:53.the law to enable you from Asia, has as -- euthanasia, as has
:13:53. > :13:56.happened in other parts of the world, is that you bring a huge
:13:56. > :14:02.raft of pages that are played out in the lives and deaths of people
:14:02. > :14:06.who are vulnerable. There is no evidence of that. It is not true.
:14:07. > :14:11.It is perfectly true. We can bad back and forward on the issue but
:14:11. > :14:17.it is perfectly true and there are statistics there to prove it. The
:14:17. > :14:20.death rate in any of the country's where voluntary euthanasia, and I
:14:20. > :14:24.stress voluntary, where I am totally against it when somebody
:14:24. > :14:34.else makes the decision, the decision has to rest with the
:14:34. > :14:39.
:14:39. > :14:44.People were dying anyway. They were just given the option of having a
:14:44. > :14:51.peaceful and paint free death and I think that is everybody's right. --
:14:51. > :14:55.pain free death. I wish it was true but what is happening in Holland,
:14:55. > :15:01.the death-rate in Holland, according to Dutch medical all
:15:01. > :15:08.authorities, is being reduced in terms of voluntary euthanasia.
:15:08. > :15:12.problem is they are not counting in the statistics, people who are
:15:12. > :15:16.being killed. These are non- voluntary euthanasia is. What is
:15:16. > :15:20.happening in Holland is that the practice of deep palliative
:15:20. > :15:27.sedation is killing nearly 10,000 people a year, and that has not
:15:28. > :15:31.been revealed. Share your own experience. I am talking about the
:15:31. > :15:39.overall death rate in the country doesn't increase. My own experience
:15:39. > :15:45.is that I have been a carer for the last 12 years. My wife has MS. Well,
:15:45. > :15:50.my partner, same difference. She is the person I love it. In giving up
:15:50. > :15:55.work, we discussed what the future held for us. Simple things like
:15:55. > :16:03.finance, because I was giving up work, she already had to give up
:16:03. > :16:07.work so we had no income apart from disability and carer's allowance.
:16:07. > :16:12.My partner is a very intelligent person. She said herself where if
:16:12. > :16:22.she did and one to tolerate her MS, she wanted the option of opting out.
:16:22. > :16:26.Did you try to talk out of it? course I did, I don't want her
:16:26. > :16:30.going anywhere else, I don't want her dying. But the assurance I have
:16:30. > :16:35.given her is that if the time comes when she does want to die, I will
:16:35. > :16:39.help her. You could go to jail for that. I accept that. She has got to
:16:39. > :16:42.the point where it is impossible for her to take her own life. The
:16:42. > :16:46.only reason she is alive now, because she would have gone to
:16:46. > :16:50.Dignitas in Switzerland five years ago, the only reason she is alive
:16:50. > :16:58.is that she has been given the assurance I will help her die.
:16:58. > :17:03.Where is Bernie Smith? Is that murder? Legally, we are talking
:17:03. > :17:08.about murder. The reality is, if we help someone to die, if we aid them
:17:08. > :17:14.in that, it is murder. We are talking about changing the law that
:17:14. > :17:22.will that our doctors murderous is dead of healers -- that will make
:17:22. > :17:28.or doctors. Murderers instead of healers. You are trying to tell
:17:28. > :17:35.me... A gentleman here that is a carer, a dedicated care, doesn't
:17:35. > :17:39.care? Isn't in the right place? Why is the state intervening, have any
:17:39. > :17:43.of us got a right to intervene in the relationship and real life
:17:43. > :17:49.situation that he has with his loved one? There is love and
:17:49. > :17:54.healing. To destroy someone's life, to open the floodgates, makes our
:17:55. > :18:01.elderly, handicapped, disabled... How do you know? You are not there,
:18:01. > :18:08.I am not there. People in Holland, instead of carrying donor cards,
:18:09. > :18:16.they are carrying cards to say, let me live, don't kill me. Front row,
:18:16. > :18:21.blonde hair, go ahead. Where do you draw the line, if you do allow
:18:21. > :18:29.somebody the right to die? As a solicitor, I find that it would be
:18:29. > :18:33.difficult to legislate. I am wondering where you draw the line.
:18:33. > :18:39.Why would it be difficult to legislate? Because it should be
:18:39. > :18:43.based on the facts of East -- each case. You can't draw up legislation
:18:43. > :18:48.for every single case. I am wondering if you did implement
:18:48. > :18:58.legislation, in five years' time, do you loosen the legislation and
:18:58. > :19:04.
:19:04. > :19:12.keep listening it? -- keep Tell us about Leah. At the age of
:19:12. > :19:17.21, on 24th September 2011, took a massive brain stem and stroke,
:19:18. > :19:21.which left her locked in. At that particular moment in time, when the
:19:22. > :19:26.doctors told us they didn't know if Leah was going to live, then they
:19:26. > :19:31.told us she would live by she would be locked in, in my mind that was
:19:31. > :19:38.actually worse. Because somebody who I laughed, somebody who was so
:19:38. > :19:43.vibrant, so full of life, was due to go back to university to do her
:19:43. > :19:50.final year. She had had a job at the end of that. She had everything
:19:50. > :19:55.going for her and all of a sudden, gone. She is also severely dyslexic.
:19:55. > :19:59.She used the board that we saw Tony using. Somebody who is dyslexic,
:19:59. > :20:02.trying to spell out to you with their eyes is extremely difficult.
:20:02. > :20:06.She remained totally locked in for eight weeks, she didn't move
:20:07. > :20:11.anything at all. That is what we were told she was going to be. I
:20:11. > :20:16.stated to the doctor in the room when I was told, that I would go to
:20:16. > :20:24.prison, I could not have watched my beautiful daughter live there like
:20:24. > :20:31.that. -- lie there like that. thought you would be able to take
:20:31. > :20:35.your daughter's life? When the doctor spoke to us, yes. Leah had
:20:35. > :20:40.said, her face is very strong and I was so angry with God as to how he
:20:40. > :20:44.could possibly do this to us. How he could do it to Leah, who had
:20:44. > :20:51.given her whole life to him, was doing so much when, and she is left
:20:51. > :20:56.lying there. What it changed your mind? -- was doing so much for him.
:20:56. > :21:01.It was the support around us. The programme on Monday night lasted
:21:01. > :21:05.half-an-hour, it took us two hours to watch it. For the first time,
:21:05. > :21:13.Leah was able to express how she felt. Ashy understand any of what
:21:13. > :21:19.we are saying? -- - she understand? Do you understand what you we are
:21:19. > :21:27.saying tight? You do. You have heard a man saying he has a similar
:21:27. > :21:32.situation to you and he wants to die. Do you think he should die?
:21:32. > :21:38.Leah says for eight weeks, she was totally locked in, and she says, it
:21:38. > :21:41.was sheer hell on earth. She has said this to you? Yes. She said she
:21:41. > :21:45.wouldn't have wanted to die at that sort of stage, she would have
:21:45. > :21:51.wanted to give it a bit of time, but her prayer would have been
:21:51. > :21:57.after a while, Leah says her prayer during that time was let me die.
:21:57. > :22:01.Does Leah think... After that length of time, Lear thinks that
:22:01. > :22:08.what he has been going through, he should be listened to. You think he
:22:08. > :22:16.should be allowed to die? But you very much want to live. Thank you
:22:16. > :22:22.so much. Thank you for coming tonight. A gentleman in the front
:22:22. > :22:26.row, hello. I certainly appreciate this gentleman's case, I watched it
:22:26. > :22:30.with interest over this last week or so and it brought back some
:22:30. > :22:34.instances in my own family. Two similar instances, one from
:22:34. > :22:38.Alzheimer's and one from my own mother, who had cancer. That lady
:22:38. > :22:41.there said the right word, support. We have got to support individuals
:22:42. > :22:51.like that, through the medical profession, through the family,
:22:52. > :22:52.
:22:52. > :23:00.That this discussion is about the right to have individual choice for
:23:00. > :23:08.It is whether as individual human beings, we have got the right to
:23:09. > :23:13.decide for ourselves. Do we? Yes or no. How would you call it?
:23:13. > :23:17.depends on the personality. Would you like the choice for you?
:23:17. > :23:22.would not have the choice unless the family or the doctors were
:23:22. > :23:26.around. Why is this individual trying to change the law? If he can
:23:26. > :23:36.take sustenance, although it is difficult for him, and I saw the
:23:36. > :23:41.Dutch situation... Why can he not take those drugs himself? I am an
:23:41. > :23:51.able-bodied person, I can take my own life. As somebody who becomes
:23:51. > :23:51.
:23:51. > :23:55.ill or -- more ill, your wife is happy to be as she is, but she
:23:55. > :23:59.cannot take her own life when she comes back. She has the only option
:23:59. > :24:05.not have the quality of her life that she wants. If she wants to do
:24:05. > :24:15.it, she has to do it before she becomes incapable. So many of you
:24:15. > :24:18.
:24:18. > :24:21.at home want to get in touch. Hello, Philip. What do you think? I think
:24:21. > :24:29.David in the world chair, he should have the right to die. When you
:24:29. > :24:36.live in that position -- in the wheelchair. The courts should let
:24:36. > :24:45.him commit suicide. I see in the notes, you were in a car accident.
:24:45. > :24:49.Left paralysed? From the chest down. Do you not want to live? 14 years
:24:49. > :24:55.ago I was thinking of committing suicide. I was able to do it but I
:24:55. > :25:04.had something to fight for. Doesn't everybody have something to fight
:25:04. > :25:11.for? A lot of people have not a lot to fight for. There is
:25:11. > :25:20.embarrassment and dignity. I am a vulnerable person. Thank you for
:25:20. > :25:25.calling me tonight. Go-ahead. the millions of Alzheimer's
:25:25. > :25:30.sufferers had known they were going out the disease, would you want to
:25:30. > :25:38.-- would they not want to die? Would you? I would, if I knew I was
:25:38. > :25:42.What we are looking at is not just saying a person's decision to end
:25:42. > :25:47.their own lives, but a change in the law with regard to murder. They
:25:47. > :25:51.are asking that a doctor intervene here, and that completely alters
:25:52. > :25:58.the whole relationship between a doctor and their patients. It is
:25:58. > :26:04.built on trust and confidence and caring and compassion. Right from
:26:04. > :26:09.the time of Hippocrates, all the ethical codes have been... They
:26:09. > :26:13.give no noxious substance to my patients. You're thinking in the
:26:13. > :26:17.interest of the doctor rather than the patient. It is because it is a
:26:17. > :26:21.very complicated situation. We are not talking about a simple
:26:21. > :26:25.situation which compassion can be legislated for in every case, in
:26:25. > :26:30.advance. The problem we have got is these are human relationships, they
:26:30. > :26:35.are very complicated and you can't take one individual case and make a
:26:35. > :26:42.law for everybody. We don't, we don't. That is the problems. There
:26:42. > :26:45.are many other situations in life individual case and makes a
:26:45. > :26:50.decision based on the details. Kevin Maguire. Doctors now switch
:26:50. > :26:53.off life-support machines. I have seen it done in my extended family.
:26:53. > :27:01.King George V was sent on his way in 1936 with an overdose of
:27:01. > :27:04.morphine. It happens now. Watching Tony, it was heartbreaking and I
:27:04. > :27:07.would make every MP and every peer in the Houses of Parliament watch
:27:08. > :27:11.that. I cannot believe they wouldn't change the law. If we had
:27:11. > :27:15.the money and the wherewithal, he could go to Switzerland, go to
:27:15. > :27:25.Dignitas, they wouldn't be prosecuted. But he is here, they
:27:25. > :27:26.
:27:26. > :27:30.don't have the money, and she would The select committee of the House
:27:30. > :27:33.of Lords look at this in 1994 and said that the law should not be
:27:33. > :27:38.changed because there could be no safeguards to prevent abuse. We are
:27:38. > :27:43.not only talking about one person. Because we cannot build in
:27:43. > :27:49.safeguards, Tory has his individual choice taken away. Your Parker
:27:49. > :27:59.might get to this stage. And I will end up in jail, because I will help
:27:59. > :28:06.
:28:06. > :28:13.There is a fundamental that is being ignored. The right to die
:28:13. > :28:18.exists already. They have is no such thing as the right to dive.
:28:18. > :28:24.The suicide law was enacted in 1971 and everyone has a right to commit
:28:24. > :28:29.suicide with and a lot. We are talking about the murder Act.
:28:29. > :28:34.let me control this. We're talking about assisted suicide. About
:28:34. > :28:41.someone who cannot do it for themselves so they need a doctor or
:28:41. > :28:46.other individual. Another individual to help them. You're
:28:46. > :28:49.talking about safeguards. We look at the situation in the Netherlands.
:28:49. > :28:54.I watch the programme the other night and they listened to the
:28:54. > :29:00.doctor talking about safeguards and about personal choice. But one-
:29:00. > :29:04.third of those cases of assisted death are none voluntary. He there
:29:04. > :29:13.are safeguards built into whether a doctor terms of Orly support
:29:13. > :29:18.machine. The problem here is, just one second, what we are dealing
:29:18. > :29:24.with is an emotional reaction to are very difficult situation. But,
:29:24. > :29:30.the truth is, people's lives are being taken already in Holland.
:29:30. > :29:35.is not an emotional reaction to Tony, who is suffering, who is in
:29:35. > :29:38.torture. Of course we can build in safeguards. I watched the debate on
:29:38. > :29:43.gay marriage last week and I were shouting at the television. If you
:29:43. > :29:49.don't agree with same-sex marriages, don't marry someone of the same sex.
:29:49. > :29:55.If you do not think it is right for you, don't. But, for those who do,
:29:55. > :30:01.they should be allowed to. Change the law. What happens to people
:30:01. > :30:05.like me, what happened to Jane Campbell, all the all people who
:30:05. > :30:08.get thrown out of hospitals at 90 years of age at 3 o'clock in the
:30:08. > :30:15.morning now, this is happening now, this is happening to people with
:30:16. > :30:21.learning difficulties... It is happening already. We are out of
:30:21. > :30:25.time, I am afraid. We will continue talking about this on Twitter. We
:30:25. > :30:31.will continue talking about it on the Stephen Nolan radio show on
:30:31. > :30:41.Radio Ulster average morning. I thank everyone for coming in for
:30:41. > :30:45.
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:32:06. > :32:14.
:32:14. > :32:24.this car. It is time for Frank's What do you think Frank would tell
:32:24. > :32:30.
:32:30. > :32:40.This was not the only dodgy car up for sale. This dealer have another
:32:40. > :32:40.
:32:40. > :32:45.three cars for sale online with We found one can advertised as
:32:45. > :32:51.having 75,000 miles on the clock, but online checks showed nearly
:32:51. > :32:59.twice that amount. Another was listed at 64,000 miles. When we
:32:59. > :33:05.checked it out, the reality is just under 80,000 miles. And we found
:33:05. > :33:13.one more, the advert sets and the 4,000 miles, the online records
:33:13. > :33:18.showed a over 50,000 miles more. Someone has clocked these cars.
:33:18. > :33:23.Changing the mileage on the cars is not illegal, but selling on the car
:33:23. > :33:28.that has been clocked, is. It is an offence to mislead the buyer.
:33:29. > :33:33.Trading standards say that clocking is on the rise. If you are looking
:33:33. > :33:39.for a bargain, do not get too attached and know when to walk away.
:33:39. > :33:44.Do not get mixed up with a car that has ahead and past. The law says
:33:44. > :33:47.that the seller should take all steps to be sure the car he is
:33:47. > :33:53.selling has the right number of miles on display. The cases that we
:33:53. > :33:59.have looked at have had cars with 50,000 miles knocked off the
:33:59. > :34:03.mileage. How significant is that? You're losing a quarter of the
:34:03. > :34:09.car's history with modern cars, which is a huge amount of mileage.
:34:09. > :34:14.You're talking about four or five years of the car's life. The
:34:14. > :34:21.setting the mileage is not rocket science. Anyone can do it. There is
:34:21. > :34:25.no legislation. It seems that it is you who is losing out. We would ask
:34:25. > :34:29.people to check the MOT certificates. And to check the
:34:29. > :34:39.service history of the car. People do not know what they are getting
:34:39. > :34:46.
:34:47. > :34:52.if the car has been clocked. Always ask for the log book. It
:34:52. > :34:58.will allow you to check mileage from MoT records. We know for sure
:34:58. > :35:08.that this guy has been clocked. And just listen to how convincing
:35:08. > :35:23.
:35:23. > :35:28.Hello, Frank. My name is Stephen. This afternoon I spent time they
:35:28. > :35:38.knew little does it. Here is what happened, Frankie boy! -- paying
:35:38. > :35:40.
:35:40. > :35:50.you a little does it. -- visit. This is the business, from where
:35:50. > :35:50.
:35:50. > :35:56.francs sells his cars. -- Frank. We are here, we want to speak to him.
:35:57. > :36:04.I am sure that there is an innocent explanation as to why that car has
:36:04. > :36:14.had 40,000 miles wait from it. I am sure that Frank will tell us. --
:36:14. > :36:16.
:36:16. > :36:23.wiped. But, Frank was nowhere to be seen. It was just me in the dog. --
:36:23. > :36:29.and the dog. I am ringing and ringing and Frank does not seem to
:36:29. > :36:33.be answering. He knows that it is me. He said that he would not sell
:36:33. > :36:40.any car, knowing that the speedometer had been clocked. And
:36:40. > :36:47.now, he will not speak to me. We know of three of his cars, three?
:36:47. > :36:57.That have been clocked. Sold by an alleged cars Ireland, limited.
:36:57. > :37:00.
:37:00. > :37:09.Interesting, interesting. -- the Liege -- there needs cars. --
:37:09. > :37:19.Village Cars. If you have got a story, please bring it to us. There
:37:19. > :37:19.
:37:19. > :37:26.is the e-mail on-screen. Here is what is still to come on the show.
:37:26. > :37:31.Who should be ahead in the queue to see the Queen before the Northern
:37:31. > :37:41.Ireland public? You can get in touch with us, pleased week, text
:37:41. > :38:01.
:38:01. > :38:08.or call us. And here is how to do Next up, it is a sitcom that has
:38:08. > :38:18.stood the test of time. It has a legion of fans. Father Ted is a
:38:18. > :38:19.
:38:19. > :38:24.look at a fictional Catholic parish on Craggy Island. It is 15 years
:38:24. > :38:28.since the last episode. And his appeal has never waned. One of the
:38:28. > :38:38.main stars joins us now it. Please give refuge will come to our door
:38:38. > :38:45.
:38:45. > :38:50.Hanlon. -- a huge will come to Ardal O'Hanlon -- welcome. What we
:38:50. > :38:58.tried to do with the guests, we try to have a bit of fun, and to have a
:38:58. > :39:03.laugh. We have doorstep a dodgy car dealer. It has been a very heavy
:39:03. > :39:09.show. Are you sure that I am an appropriate guest? Wars Liam Neeson
:39:09. > :39:14.not available? It reminds me of the first time I was on a chat show. I
:39:15. > :39:22.wasn't young stand-up comedian and I did the late, late show don't in
:39:22. > :39:27.Dublin. It was a big thrill for me and my family. The first part of
:39:27. > :39:34.the show was about people who had been murdered in horrific
:39:34. > :39:38.circumstances. All the guests were crying. The talk-show host had a
:39:38. > :39:46.big tear in his eye, and then he introduced me, and now, for a bit
:39:46. > :39:52.of a laugh, here is Ardal O'Hanlon. And I am, like, hello. And everyone
:39:53. > :39:57.is just looking at me, get off, you! It takes confidence to come
:39:57. > :40:04.out and do what you have done. Your leading the interview. Have you
:40:04. > :40:09.always been like that from very young? Always confident? Not in the
:40:09. > :40:18.slightest. I was incredibly shy. People who knew me growing up
:40:18. > :40:28.cannot believe that I do this. It baffles them. I was quiet,
:40:28. > :40:29.
:40:29. > :40:32.anonymous. No one knew I existed. You often find that with a comedian,
:40:32. > :40:42.that sometimes, the person that is so confident in front of the screen
:40:42. > :40:43.
:40:43. > :40:53.is quite shy of it. It is all compensation, I think. -- over
:40:53. > :40:55.
:40:55. > :41:02.compensation. I cannot explain it. I am too shy to go into that!
:41:02. > :41:07.Father Ted happened, did you realise how big it was going to be?
:41:07. > :41:13.I was working as a stand-up comic in London. I was delighted that it
:41:13. > :41:20.was doing well. I was asked to go to this audition. I knew the
:41:21. > :41:25.writers, slightly. I went along, not expecting anything. I just went
:41:25. > :41:31.along. I did not hear anything for six months. Eventually I got a
:41:31. > :41:36.telephone call to say that I had got the part. I really did not
:41:36. > :41:44.expect it to amount to anything. I am delighted at how it has turned
:41:44. > :41:48.out. If you take what you did in that show, an irreverent look at
:41:48. > :41:53.the Catholic church, and look at the serious top there has been
:41:53. > :42:03.about the Catholic church recently, what is your real life do on the
:42:03. > :42:07.
:42:07. > :42:13.Catholic church? -- view. It has given me so much! I think the
:42:13. > :42:17.cardinal should resign. I think that the Pope should resign. Got
:42:17. > :42:23.himself should seriously consider his position! He must have known
:42:23. > :42:26.what was going on. The worst part, from my point of do, is you cannot
:42:26. > :42:36.have any association with the Catholic church, you cannot even
:42:36. > :42:40.admit to having been the fictional I used to do stuff about it in my
:42:40. > :42:44.stand-up routine and I used to feel bad about it. I am not really God-
:42:44. > :42:48.fearing but I am a cultural Catholic and I am conscious of that
:42:49. > :42:54.background. What is a cultural Catholic. I am so glad I said that
:42:55. > :42:59.right! It is someone who recognises and appreciate certain elements of
:42:59. > :43:04.the Catholic heritage. It is inescapable. If you like Catholic,
:43:04. > :43:08.you are always a Catholic. lower-middle-class Catholic?
:43:08. > :43:12.someone who is lapsed and possibly doesn't have any faith, but
:43:12. > :43:15.appreciates the role that the Church plays in society in terms of
:43:15. > :43:20.christenings and marriage and funerals and stuff like that, they
:43:20. > :43:24.do a good job. I feel bad when you knock the Church but they have to
:43:24. > :43:28.be knocked, because as an institution, they have failed the
:43:28. > :43:33.people, particularly with the abuse scandals and more importantly, the
:43:33. > :43:36.cover ups. People are so upset and disappointed but it didn't stop
:43:36. > :43:46.80,000 people turning up at Croke Park for a mass last Sunday, but
:43:46. > :43:49.
:43:49. > :43:54.they you go. You were going to get I just wanted to know, if the
:43:54. > :43:58.opportunity ever came about to do Father Ted again, would you do it?
:43:58. > :44:04.I would like to live my life all over again but that is probably not
:44:04. > :44:07.going to happen. No, definitely not, is the answer. We did three series
:44:07. > :44:15.and the writers were thrilled with the quality of the three series.
:44:15. > :44:23.Milk it. Market! I am a puritan at heart. -- milk, milk it! This is
:44:23. > :44:29.what the BBC keeps saying to me. -- this is what the BBC keeps
:44:29. > :44:36.saying to me. You are doing a good job of it! A bizarre show! It has
:44:36. > :44:39.been fantastic and grade. But we were delighted to move on. --
:44:39. > :44:44.fantastic and great. A lot of people don't realise I have moved
:44:44. > :44:48.on. Because if you are so popular and you reach that level of success,
:44:49. > :44:57.people like John want more and they wanted to stay in what they are
:44:57. > :45:06.locked into. Is that frustrating? little bit. An unfortunate phrase
:45:06. > :45:12.used in the middle of that, but... Really? No, it is not frustrating,
:45:12. > :45:18.I have had an enjoyable career to date. With a lot of variety in it.
:45:18. > :45:24.And every day is a new challenge. know you are in to your football,
:45:24. > :45:30.who are you supporting? I was supporting Ireland. Until a few
:45:31. > :45:38.days ago. I am just back from Poland. I did my stint, my duty.
:45:38. > :45:46.You would move that allegiance on to England. What are you trying to
:45:46. > :45:49.do to me? I have got to go back to Dublin. No. I don't have a hang-up
:45:49. > :45:54.about England. I don't support them in football but I would if they
:45:54. > :45:59.just played better football and that is frankly the case. I have
:45:59. > :46:04.tried not to indoctrinate my children in a negative way. I do 5
:46:04. > :46:08.live on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The Northern Ireland
:46:08. > :46:12.punters tell me of when I come back to Radio Ulster. I find myself
:46:12. > :46:19.saying we, come on England, we have got to win this. On Monday morning
:46:19. > :46:24.I am saying, did you see how cocky they are, they play awful. Move it
:46:24. > :46:29.every time. What about an All- Ireland football team? That is a
:46:29. > :46:36.brilliant idea. The tee shot had that idea a few days ago. Any time
:46:36. > :46:42.we have a real bad time in football, this issue resurfaces again. On the
:46:42. > :46:45.surface, it sounds like a brilliant idea. I would prefer to merge with
:46:45. > :46:55.Spain or someone like that, no disrespect to Northern Ireland
:46:55. > :46:58.
:46:58. > :47:02.There are 350 in this audience but it is striking that your clapped
:47:02. > :47:07.him for saying that. I am sure they feel the same about merging with
:47:07. > :47:14.Southern Ireland. The thing about football, I am a football fan. This
:47:15. > :47:20.is our out let, the little bit of tribalism that we indulge in. It is
:47:20. > :47:24.very sensible on the surface in so far as you would have a marginal
:47:24. > :47:29.better football team. With Jonny Evans, we might have lost 3-0
:47:29. > :47:33.instead of 4-0. In terms of administration it makes more sense.
:47:33. > :47:38.But football is not rational. Football supporters are irrational.
:47:39. > :47:44.There is a guy here, I needed to be quick. Would you be interested in
:47:44. > :47:51.writing another song for the Eurovision?
:47:51. > :48:01.A joint song, it would be... thought, there is a decent bloke,
:48:01. > :48:01.
:48:01. > :48:07.and you are. Thank you for coming in. In the show called bizarre, we
:48:07. > :48:13.are going to turn into politics again. Have you got a ticket to the
:48:13. > :48:16.Queen's Jubilee Garden Party? I got one... I haven't got a ticket.
:48:16. > :48:21.It has caused a stink here. The allocation of tickets has upset
:48:21. > :48:26.callers to the Nolan radio show. All of the tickets seemed to have
:48:27. > :48:30.been gone only a few minutes after the phone line opened. Well, the
:48:30. > :48:34.TUV leader Jim Allister is calling for the NIO to complain about where
:48:34. > :48:43.the tickets have gone. He is here, give him a round of applause.
:48:43. > :48:47.What do you mean, where have the tickets gone? I have got it in
:48:47. > :48:51.black and white from the NIO, political parties and independents
:48:51. > :48:56.were offered -- offered four tickets per member, what is the
:48:56. > :49:01.problem? You believe that? It is what the NIO had said. We are told
:49:01. > :49:06.there are 20,000 tickets and 10,000 went online at nine am yesterday
:49:06. > :49:11.morning. And evaporated within six minutes. We are told another 10,000
:49:11. > :49:20.were distributed undisclosed sources. Which includes, apparently,
:49:20. > :49:27.four Per MLA. Which includes certain groups, be fair. I am sure
:49:27. > :49:32.there are a lot of deserving groups. People will be disappointed. This
:49:32. > :49:35.is going to be a very dress occasion for most people and there
:49:35. > :49:40.was high expectation, and I don't want to dampen those. But I think
:49:40. > :49:45.there is a necessity that it is done in an open and transparent way.
:49:45. > :49:49.When you pick up with in your community that there appears to be
:49:49. > :49:54.certain political outlets which have no shortage of tickets, that
:49:54. > :50:00.is hard to square with each MLA only getting four or five And
:50:00. > :50:04.presumably MPs also getting the same. The question is how many do
:50:04. > :50:10.ministers get, political parties and MPs get. How was it that the
:50:10. > :50:15.next day after the party was announced, before any MLA was told
:50:15. > :50:19.how many tickets they were getting, they appeared on Facebook from the
:50:19. > :50:29.DUP, an advert, if you want to go to the garden party, contact your
:50:29. > :50:31.
:50:31. > :50:34.DUP MP, or MLA. How did they know... So you know, we asked the other
:50:34. > :50:38.parties to come in, none of them would do so. Which is interesting
:50:38. > :50:42.in itself. Maybe because they knew their allocation, they get four
:50:42. > :50:47.tickets per member and it is up to them how they distribute their
:50:47. > :50:50.tickets. You are having a cheap pop. You don't know the facts yourself.
:50:50. > :50:56.I have said very little until the matter began to exercise people
:50:56. > :51:00.because of the unfairness. If you are saying each politician is only
:51:00. > :51:07.getting four tickets and there is a party with 35 people in Stormont,
:51:07. > :51:11.that is 140, 150 tickets. You do not go on Facebook to say, if you
:51:12. > :51:17.want to go to the garden party, contact your MLA. If he only has
:51:17. > :51:21.four, there's not much point contacted him. It is interesting
:51:21. > :51:28.that no other party has been prepared to lay their cards on the
:51:28. > :51:32.table and saved from all political sources, how many tickets did they
:51:32. > :51:37.get. -- and say. Ian, what have you done with your tickets? I have my
:51:37. > :51:42.tickets here, they arrived today. I ordered five yesterday morning. On
:51:43. > :51:48.the internet. I sat with two windows open, one had the Greenwich
:51:48. > :51:53.Mean Time ticking by, the other was Ticketmaster. I was getting those
:51:53. > :51:57.tickets. A lot of my family members went to London for the celebrations
:51:57. > :52:03.in London. If it wasn't for work commitments, would have paid a
:52:03. > :52:07.fortune. Are they the tickets that are on eBay now? No, was going to
:52:07. > :52:11.put two on this morning, whilst you're talking about it on your
:52:11. > :52:16.show. Then I had a gentleman and when I heard him speaking, I was
:52:16. > :52:19.like, he can have that ticket if he wants it. You were going to put it
:52:19. > :52:23.on eBay and you had people saying they really wanted it and you
:52:23. > :52:27.changed your mind, you have a conscience. I wouldn't put it down
:52:27. > :52:32.to conscience. As I said to the girl on the phone, I get married in
:52:32. > :52:38.September. If I can make �500 off two tickets I wasn't going to use...
:52:38. > :52:45.I think it is very disreputable for someone to buy tickets they are not
:52:45. > :52:52.going to need and don't want, and deny others who don't want -- who
:52:52. > :52:56.want the tickets. I think it is utterly disreputable. It is also
:52:56. > :53:01.shameful. Let him reply. It is shameful that eBay allowed it to
:53:02. > :53:07.happen. At the time I applied, I had people who wanted the tickets.
:53:07. > :53:11.They were all gone. There was an aim for every ticket. Unfortunately
:53:11. > :53:18.due to different reasons, they have said to me that they will not be
:53:18. > :53:22.able to go. If the tickets on eBay had been distributed on the basis
:53:22. > :53:26.not wear if you applied, you got five in the name of the applicant,
:53:26. > :53:36.but if the name of every person going had to be on the ticket, they
:53:36. > :53:37.
:53:37. > :53:45.If you heard the Nolan radio show to date, there was a particular
:53:45. > :53:49.gentleman who phoned us and he was distraught that he didn't get a
:53:49. > :53:55.ticket. I told him he would be a special guest on the programme
:53:55. > :54:01.tonight, he is a World War II veteran. He is 92 years of age. His
:54:01. > :54:11.name is John. John, you are our special guest tonight, thank you so
:54:11. > :54:16.
:54:16. > :54:22.Tell me why it is so important for you to go to the Jubilee party.
:54:22. > :54:30.Well, I think it is what we deserve after what we went through from
:54:30. > :54:35.1939-1946. And I think, I want to respect Her Majesty the Queen. She
:54:35. > :54:44.has been a wonderful woman over all those years. And I say God bless
:54:44. > :54:49.her. Would you like to stand up for me, come down here. Tell this
:54:49. > :54:56.gentleman, what is your name? Tel John what you are going to do.
:54:56. > :55:03.have a ticket for you to go to the Jubilee. Thank you, God bless.
:55:03. > :55:07.are going, you are going. Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen,
:55:07. > :55:13.please understand the power of the show. You were listening to the
:55:13. > :55:20.radio, you have made this gentleman's night, thank you John.
:55:20. > :55:24.I don't wanted to sing the song, I wanted to help me. We have got our
:55:24. > :55:28.best bits over the last nine weeks. I want to thank everybody in the
:55:28. > :55:38.audience to supporting me. Shall we look at them together? We will
:55:38. > :55:46.
:55:46. > :55:52.I am questioning why it is wrong to shoot another human being in 2012.
:55:52. > :55:58.Reading about myself in my notes! Don't be doing that! How do you
:55:58. > :56:04.manage to look younger? There is only one thing you can do with a
:56:04. > :56:10.boy like this. What I am saying is that every age finds it very
:56:11. > :56:14.difficult to understand the way another man thinks. He won't like
:56:15. > :56:19.this to me. He said, I know what you have done, you have told on me
:56:19. > :56:24.and I am going to get you. A very expensive reconstruction graphic
:56:24. > :56:29.this evening. I think what we are seeing is the sectarian
:56:30. > :56:39.manipulation of the allocation of public resources. Stop talking to
:56:40. > :56:51.
:56:51. > :56:57.me in if backers, call it. -- Ian It is OK to say republicans...
:56:57. > :57:02.you going to let me finish? I would never thought I would see the day
:57:02. > :57:06.were I would agree with him. people involved in the murder of
:57:06. > :57:15.your mother, could you contemplate them being labelled a victim?
:57:15. > :57:20.of course I could. He said, tell me what happened. And I told him.
:57:20. > :57:29.you OK? I am fine. It is good to talk about these things but
:57:29. > :57:35.sometimes it is a bit hard. Have a look at the state of me there.
:57:35. > :57:38.best �20 I have ever spent. At the time I was like, �20? You are
:57:38. > :57:48.manipulating and taking advantage of vulnerable people. Almost
:57:48. > :57:54.
:57:54. > :58:00.definitely not. What do you think How does it make you feel as a
:58:00. > :58:09.human being? I feel filthy. Give me loads of young northern accent and
:58:09. > :58:14.you will have but but but the whole I don't hate homosexuality, I know
:58:14. > :58:24.that is a sin. If you are a biblical fundamentalists, you will
:58:24. > :58:27.