:00:11. > :00:15.Good evening, and welcome back to Manchester for Today at Conference.
:00:15. > :00:18.It is the night after the afternoon before, and Ed Miliband's speech,
:00:19. > :00:22.especially that phrase, "One Nation", is still the talk of
:00:22. > :00:27.conference. Yesterday he used the phrase 46 times during his speech,
:00:27. > :00:32.and today the newly confident Labour Party leader was back on
:00:32. > :00:38.centre stage fielding questions from party members. The Shadow Home
:00:38. > :00:43.Secretary, Yvette Cooper, evoked the spirit of Robert Peel to
:00:43. > :00:49.describe yes, One Nation policing. Elsewhere, he repeatedly emphasised
:00:49. > :00:52.his comprehensive education to the people of Manchester - do the
:00:52. > :00:56.people of Manchester think Ed Miliband is posh or not? There is a
:00:56. > :01:02.new competition in the Shadow Cabinet. They're all trying to
:01:02. > :01:10.adopt their favourite 19th century Conservative politician to show how
:01:10. > :01:19.One Nation they all now are. Yesterday Ed Miliband chose
:01:19. > :01:23.disreally. Today Yvette Cooper was on her feet. In Manchester this
:01:23. > :01:28.morning people are gathering, family, friends and colleagues for
:01:28. > :01:34.the funeral of the PC Nicola Hughes. Tomorrow the city will do the same
:01:34. > :01:37.for the PC Fiona Bone. They answered a 999 call just as police
:01:37. > :01:44.officers do every single day of the week never knowing what they will
:01:44. > :01:50.find, and that is their job - a job their families said they loved.
:01:50. > :01:54.They were shot down in a brutal act, and they showed bravery that they
:01:55. > :01:59.and emergency services show every day and take for granted, but we
:01:59. > :02:06.never must, and the police have gathered from across the country
:02:06. > :02:10.and so have we. So we join them and the people of Manchester, the Prime
:02:10. > :02:15.Minister, the Home Secretary and the whole country in paying tribute
:02:15. > :02:25.to those brave officers, to all of our emergency services, and we bid
:02:25. > :02:28.
:02:28. > :02:34.those officers farewell. We're all very proud to be back in
:02:34. > :02:40.the city of Manchester. Down the road from here in Piccadilly
:02:40. > :02:46.Gardens stands a statue. Sir Robert Peel, son of Barry, founder of the
:02:46. > :02:52.British Police 180 years ago - Peel established powerful principles. Ed,
:02:52. > :02:56.you could call them "One Nation" principles. They were a few decades
:02:56. > :03:01.earlier than Disraeli's free trade haul speech. He said then, "The
:03:01. > :03:07.police are the public, and the public are the police." Able to
:03:07. > :03:13.uphold our laws not because of coercion but because of consent.
:03:13. > :03:16.British police are not guards. They're guardians. Unlike so many
:03:16. > :03:25.foreign forces they're unarmed, and like British police officers
:03:25. > :03:30.themselves, we're proud of that tradition. -- and like. And
:03:30. > :03:34.conference, as we heard yesterday, it's that One Nation tradition that
:03:34. > :03:38.is part of Labour's vision today in that brilliant and inspiring speech
:03:38. > :03:43.by our party leader and our next Prime Minister, Ed Miliband.
:03:43. > :03:47.APPLAUSE I talked to a party member last
:03:47. > :03:52.night who told me that she was arrested and fined as a teenager
:03:52. > :03:56.because she swore at the police. We expect teenagers to show respect
:03:56. > :04:02.for police. We expect drivers in traffic to show respect for police.
:04:02. > :04:08.We expect each other to show respect for those we ask to uphold
:04:08. > :04:11.the law on our behalf. It's just not what David Cameron expects from
:04:11. > :04:16.his Cabinet, because this is about David Cameron, not just Andrew
:04:16. > :04:20.Mitchell. He chose to back him, not sack him - just like the tax breaks
:04:20. > :04:24.for millionaires. Once again, it's one rule for the Cabinet, another
:04:24. > :04:29.for the plebs, so out of touch, they aren't fit to govern, so come
:04:29. > :04:30.on, conference. Let's bring on the plebiscite. Plebs of the world,
:04:30. > :04:40.unite. We have nothing to lose but this Government.
:04:40. > :04:42.
:04:42. > :04:46.In six weeks' time, conference, the country has a chance to vote on
:04:46. > :04:50.policing. We didn't support the introduction of police and crime
:04:50. > :04:53.commissioners. We wanted more checks and balances, and we're
:04:53. > :05:00.clear more reforms will be needed, but policing is too important to
:05:00. > :05:03.turn our backs on these elections now. You have seen our talented
:05:03. > :05:08.candidates experienced in policing, criminal justice, in counterterror
:05:08. > :05:11.work and in community work, and here in Manchester, we all know the
:05:11. > :05:16.much-respected Tony Lloyd - you heard today from the brilliant Jane
:05:16. > :05:18.Kennedy and Jane Basham and, of course, the unstoppable campaign
:05:18. > :05:25.phenomenon that is our own John Prescott.
:05:25. > :05:30.APPLAUSE Police officers need to know.
:05:30. > :05:34.Serious problems will be rooted out so they don't cast a shadow over
:05:34. > :05:39.everyone else. We need proper checks and balances in a democracy,
:05:39. > :05:45.but yet the system takes too long, and the powers often aren't strong
:05:45. > :05:53.enough. It took too long to get a new investigation into hacking
:05:53. > :05:58.under way. It took too long to find out the truth about what happened
:05:58. > :06:02.to Ian Tomlinson during the G20 protest. And conference, it took
:06:02. > :06:05.far, far too long for the truth to come out about the tragedy and the
:06:05. > :06:10.awful senior police cover-up at Hillsboro. Liverpool needs justice,
:06:10. > :06:15.but we also need to make sure no- one ever has to fight for the truth
:06:15. > :06:25.for 23 years after losing a loved one or a child.
:06:25. > :06:29.Conference, the Independent Police Complaints Commission wasn't able
:06:30. > :06:34.to sort out any of those cases. The authoritative new chair, I know,
:06:34. > :06:38.has warned about its lack of powers, so we need reform. After discussion
:06:38. > :06:43.with Lord Stevens, I believe we need a new stronger police
:06:43. > :06:48.standards authority replacing the IPCC to raise standards, pursue
:06:48. > :06:50.powerful investigations and ensure there are proper safeguards in
:06:50. > :06:55.place. For Tories and Liberal Democrats are failing to act,
:06:55. > :06:58.failing to set out plans to cut crime, help victims or back up
:06:58. > :07:02.police, failing because in the end, they don't believe in the power of
:07:02. > :07:09.public service or the strength of society, and they just don't value
:07:09. > :07:13.the public servants we need to keep us safe. Whatever happened to the
:07:13. > :07:22.party of Peel? People used to think the Tories were the party of law
:07:22. > :07:26.and order - not anymore. Weak on crime, weak on the causes of crime
:07:26. > :07:30.- that is David Cameron's Conservative Party, cutting the
:07:30. > :07:33.police, undermining communities, swearing at officers, turning their
:07:33. > :07:38.backs on victims. Conference, it is the Labour Party that is now the
:07:38. > :07:42.party for policing, the party for law and order - Labour, the One
:07:42. > :07:50.Nation party, and unlike the Tories, we will not let our communities
:07:50. > :07:54.down. Thank you. APPLAUSE
:07:54. > :07:56.Yvette Cooper there. Earlier, Andrew Neil spoke to one of the
:07:56. > :08:01.Labour Party's better known candidates to be one of these new
:08:01. > :08:07.police and crime commissioners, a certain Lord Prescott. As I
:08:07. > :08:11.understand it, you, for the Labour nomination of the police commission
:08:11. > :08:15.in Humberside you beat division commander Keith Hunter. In what way
:08:15. > :08:19.do you know more about policing and crime than him? He knows an awful
:08:19. > :08:22.lot about police work because he's had 30 years and a very experienced
:08:22. > :08:26.man, and we thought - we had a little bit of division in the party
:08:26. > :08:29.who should be the candidate. I won the vote, but his experience is
:08:29. > :08:32.invaluable and is immediately lined up with me, and it's the
:08:32. > :08:37.combination - it's the police experience and the community work -
:08:37. > :08:41.two sides of the same coin. Therefore, we are offering an
:08:41. > :08:46.opportunity that reflects both those experiences that produces a
:08:46. > :08:52.partnership and police work which has led in the last 13 years to the
:08:52. > :08:55.biggest decline in criminal offences. Do you when you look at
:08:55. > :08:58.the Humberside police budget when you look at did current economic
:08:58. > :09:01.climate and Government spending, do you think if you become Police
:09:01. > :09:04.Commissioner, you're going to have to preside over cuts in the
:09:04. > :09:09.Humberside budget? Well, we have made it very clear that the
:09:09. > :09:13.Government require us to produce a five-year plan within five weeks if
:09:13. > :09:16.I am elected. I have looked a that plan that has been prepared on the
:09:16. > :09:21.Government's orders, and I'm bound to say, for example, they're going
:09:21. > :09:25.to reduce the police by 400. The independent constable -
:09:25. > :09:30.Inspectorate has said that is actually reducing these resources
:09:30. > :09:34.twice as fast as anywhere else, so I say to my police authority that
:09:34. > :09:38.people want police. They don't want to see 400 cut, and I'm not
:09:38. > :09:42.prepared to accept them in the new plan that I'm now proposing. So we
:09:42. > :09:46.could be up for a clash between Police Commissioner Prescott and
:09:46. > :09:50.the Government in London? Well, that's what the Government have -
:09:50. > :09:52.well, that won't be unusual, will it? But leaving that aside, that
:09:52. > :09:56.isn't the point. The Government have come along and said, look,
:09:56. > :10:00.there will be a Commissioner. He will negotiate with the chief of
:10:00. > :10:03.the police, and they will organise the plan between them. Labour were
:10:03. > :10:07.against the creation of police commissioners, but the coalition
:10:07. > :10:11.has introduced them, and you're standing as a candidate. Do you
:10:11. > :10:16.think that Labour - if Labour wins the election this 2015, should they
:10:16. > :10:22.make you redundant? Well, I voted against this as well. I don't like
:10:22. > :10:25.the idea, quite frankly, of a lot of power in one person's hands. Now,
:10:25. > :10:28.I'd like to say I might do it different from some other
:10:28. > :10:32.councillor. I have candidates against me who will actually say
:10:32. > :10:35.they want to get rid of speed cameras and all those things. There
:10:35. > :10:39.is a difference. Sure, but should Labour get rid of them? Should the
:10:39. > :10:43.next Labour Government get rid of them? We've asked the ex-Chief
:10:43. > :10:48.Constable to review and look at how police affects it. What we're going
:10:48. > :10:53.to do now at the moment is fight the election and try to prevent the
:10:53. > :10:56.damage that is inevitably coming from this Government reversing
:10:56. > :11:00.Labour's successful policy. If we're going to change it, wait
:11:00. > :11:03.until the election. At the moment, let me get on the with the fight.
:11:03. > :11:07.understand that. I am asking should Labour in the next election promise
:11:07. > :11:11.to get rid of police commissioners? We will certainly look at it. See
:11:11. > :11:15.how it operates. Now, before that two-and-a-half year, we'll have
:11:15. > :11:19.seen how it's working, make the decision then. All right. Now, tell
:11:19. > :11:24.me - you have been reading up on your Benjamin Disraeli? You must be
:11:24. > :11:28.over the moon your party leader supports a 19th century Tory.
:11:28. > :11:32.Well, you know I'm not an intellectual. I proved that over
:11:32. > :11:37.the years, haven't? I who the hell is Disraeli? Look, the Labour Party
:11:37. > :11:40.changes. Ed did a brilliant speech there. Look, I've always judged it
:11:40. > :11:44.from the arguments we have had New Labour, old Labour, all sorts of
:11:44. > :11:48.Labour. I'm just Labour, traditional values in a modern
:11:48. > :11:53.setting, and what Ed was talking about today was identifying himself
:11:53. > :11:57.as a leader - a process of change. Look, I was an MP when he was born.
:11:57. > :12:00.Things are changing, and the I am the old man in this. But I still
:12:00. > :12:04.think when he talks about the Health Service and he talks about
:12:04. > :12:11.getting our people back to work, making changes, having a go at the
:12:11. > :12:16.banks - sounds traditional values to me. Robert Blake wrote the great
:12:16. > :12:22.biography of Benjamin Disraeli. You don't fancy a read of that? Or
:12:22. > :12:25.Cybill, one of Disraeli's novels - wouldn't that be good best-time
:12:25. > :12:28.reading? I am not a bed-time socialist. I am a guy who lives by
:12:28. > :12:31.my experience. I think it's different to what people experience
:12:31. > :12:35.today, and I live by that. That's what I call the roots of my belief.
:12:35. > :12:38.It will be different for Ed. He has to stay in the modern times. The
:12:38. > :12:43.traditional values of my life - the modern times change. And that's
:12:43. > :12:46.what Ed has reflected today, so I won't be back to books. I'll live
:12:46. > :12:56.on my experience and judgment. you live in your experience, are
:12:56. > :12:56.
:12:56. > :13:00.you now a One Nation Labour man? One a one Labour man. One country,
:13:00. > :13:04.one Labour, one leader - I remember that. Yeah. I'm not going to
:13:04. > :13:08.comment on that. I'm one Labour - that's all I am. I am only teasing
:13:08. > :13:13.you. You know I like to make you smile because you don't do it so
:13:13. > :13:17.often, and I always succeed. I know the second question behind that one.
:13:17. > :13:20.I have forgotten it. John Prescott, thanks for joining us from
:13:20. > :13:24.Manchester. John Prescott there speaking to Andrew Neil. Earlier
:13:24. > :13:27.this afternoon Ed Miliband was back in the conference hall, again,
:13:27. > :13:30.speaking without notes, this time in shirtsleeves taking questions
:13:30. > :13:35.from, I have to say, a largely supportive audience of party
:13:35. > :13:41.members. His aides now insist that after yesterday's speech, he has
:13:41. > :13:44.political momentum, or, as they claimed, "the big mo." Yesterday's
:13:44. > :13:48.speech was important not just because I think it's another year
:13:48. > :13:52.of a conference speech but I think it sets a very clear direction of
:13:52. > :13:57.travel for us as a party, and you'll see on the backdrop behind
:13:57. > :14:01.you the phrase One Nation. I think you heard it 47 times yesterday.
:14:01. > :14:05.One Nation is incredibly important to us as a country and us as a
:14:05. > :14:09.party. Old Labour, as I said yesterday, is not going to answer
:14:09. > :14:12.the challenges that we face because it can't stand up for the whole
:14:12. > :14:15.country, but nor is New Labour because it's too silent about the
:14:15. > :14:18.responsibilities of those at the top and too timid when it comes to
:14:18. > :14:23.the vested interests of our country. Let me just say one other thing
:14:23. > :14:28.before we start - I had that list yesterday of the incompetence of
:14:28. > :14:31.this Government. Little did I know LAUGHTER
:14:31. > :14:41.- that the list would be incomplete within less than 24 hours.
:14:41. > :14:44.
:14:44. > :14:49.APPLAUSE I mean, what can you say about the
:14:49. > :14:55.West Coast Main Line fiasco? What can you say about a Government that
:14:55. > :15:00.is so incompetent that they can't even get the awarding of a
:15:00. > :15:05.franchise right? I'm Eileen Weir, and I happen to be a great-
:15:05. > :15:11.grandmother. I'd like to know... You definitely don't look old
:15:11. > :15:14.enough. That's very generous of you. Flattery will get me everywhere I
:15:14. > :15:18.hope. I gave you a kiss at the south-east conference. You probably
:15:18. > :15:23.have forgotten me. I remember. I remember! I promise. I'm going to
:15:23. > :15:30.take the chap in the hard hat - waving the hard hat.
:15:30. > :15:34.Thank you very much. I am Lacklin more fris UCAP. In recent years we
:15:34. > :15:37.have seen a fall in turnout with the general election. In order to
:15:38. > :15:41.reconnect with the electorate I am of the opinion we need more
:15:41. > :15:49.builders, more mechanics, more plumbers, more shop workers into
:15:49. > :15:54.Parliament, so my question to you, Ed, is how are we practically going
:15:54. > :15:57.to do that within the Labour Party? Great question. It's something you
:15:57. > :16:00.know from our discussions that I have made a big feature of my
:16:00. > :16:07.leadership. We're right to say we need more women in Parliament, and
:16:07. > :16:15.we need 50% of our MPs being women, in my view. That is the only way we
:16:15. > :16:19.can be a truly representative country. We need a more diverse
:16:19. > :16:24.party in terms of ethnic minorities, but also it has to be diverse in
:16:24. > :16:29.terms of class back bround. That is absolutely essential. And there
:16:30. > :16:34.will be some people who will say just saying person X is going to
:16:34. > :16:39.get selection Y - I think I would get into trouble with constituency
:16:39. > :16:42.Y if I said that so I am not going to start saying we're going to
:16:42. > :16:46.decide who the candidates are but we have responsibility to make sure
:16:46. > :16:50.it's not just people from middle class backgrounds who get into the
:16:50. > :16:54.kind of selection contest. there. I listened yesterday to your
:16:54. > :16:57.speech about sticking together and fighting cuts against the Tories,
:16:57. > :17:01.One Nation, you said. My question is when the nation stands together
:17:01. > :17:10.on the 20th of October in the streets of London, Glasgow and
:17:10. > :17:20.Belfast, will you be there to help assure us - (Indiscernible) Against
:17:20. > :17:23.
:17:23. > :17:26.this Government? Yes, I will be there. Jean Butcher from Unite. I
:17:26. > :17:33.am a very proud public service worker. Why is it that when we look
:17:33. > :17:39.to Labour to support us, we hear you and Ed Balls supporting this
:17:39. > :17:42.Tory pay freeze? I totally get the frustration that public sector
:17:42. > :17:47.workers feel about what is happening on pay. If we were in
:17:47. > :17:52.Government now and we were faced with the choice of - there will be
:17:52. > :17:55.some people who say - I mean, you know - I won't name names, but some
:17:55. > :17:58.people will think we could make no cuts at all if we were in
:17:58. > :18:01.Government no, cuts in public spending. I am not one of those who
:18:01. > :18:04.believes that. There are some people who say I should go along
:18:04. > :18:10.with what the Government say. I am not in that camp. If we were making
:18:10. > :18:15.some cuts, the point Ed Balls and I were making was a simple one that
:18:15. > :18:20.if it's a choice in the cuts between public spending, jobs and
:18:20. > :18:24.pay, jobs should come first, but that doesn't mean it's the same as
:18:24. > :18:28.under the Tories. They're imposing a 1% pay norm essentially across
:18:28. > :18:33.the board making no account whether you're low paid, middle paid or
:18:33. > :18:36.higher paid. Of course, fairness in the way we handle public sector pay
:18:36. > :18:39.will be absolutely central to what a Labour Government did.
:18:39. > :18:44.Miliband speaking earlier today. One thing that Mr Miliband has been
:18:44. > :18:47.very keen to do this week is to emphasise that he went to a
:18:47. > :18:53.comprehensive school. Do you get that, in other words, not like
:18:53. > :18:57.David Cameron, who went to Eton. But is Mr Miliband posh, or is he
:18:57. > :18:59.not? Adam took his balls into the city centre here in Manchester to
:18:59. > :19:04.find out. Well, we have left the conference
:19:04. > :19:09.centre and come to Manchester's Arndale Shopping Centre to find out
:19:09. > :19:12.what real people think about Ed Miliband - specifically, do they
:19:12. > :19:17.think he's posh or not? Do you know who Ed Miliband is?
:19:17. > :19:21.Yeah, that guy with the red nose. You could say that. Do you think
:19:21. > :19:25.he's posh or not? No. I heard on the news about what school he went
:19:25. > :19:30.to, so... It was a comprehensive school. So no. There you go. You
:19:30. > :19:38.put it in the not slot. Compared to me, he's definitely posh, so yeah.
:19:38. > :19:43.It's about Ed Miliband as the Labour leader. He's not posh.
:19:43. > :19:46.How much do you know about him? much. How do you know he's not posh
:19:46. > :19:54.then? Because he's an MP. MPs aren't posh.
:19:54. > :19:58.Who is posh, then, if MPs aren't? The Queen. Posh Spice. He's less
:19:58. > :20:04.posh than his brother. But didn't they have the same upbringing?
:20:04. > :20:09.did, but... There you go. He's less pretentious. Who would like to do
:20:09. > :20:17.our BBC survey? You just grab a ball, put it in the slot.
:20:17. > :20:21.Not posh compared to the others. Like who? David Cameron. Nick Clegg.
:20:21. > :20:24.He's not an Eton person like David Cameron. I know he didn't go to a
:20:24. > :20:29.private school and that, but you don't need to go to a private
:20:29. > :20:34.school to be posh. How posh is Ed Miliband? He's quite posh, but not
:20:34. > :20:39.posh enough we can't all relate to him. Is Ed Miliband posh or not?
:20:39. > :20:47.would say he's more posh than not - half and half. If I was his dad, I
:20:47. > :20:53.would be disappointed with him. What makes you say that? I don't
:20:53. > :20:57.know who he is. Leader of the Labour Party. If I say the name Ed
:20:57. > :21:02.Miliband, what do you think of? that the guy with the white hair
:21:03. > :21:07.who was at the Olympics? No, that's Boris Johnson. What would you say,
:21:07. > :21:11.man with the umbrella? No speak English. Someone just said, "I
:21:11. > :21:14.think Ed Miliband's really posh, and I don't like him," then waited
:21:14. > :21:24.a sec and went, "You're not him, are you?"
:21:24. > :21:29.
:21:29. > :21:35.Why did you go posh? I think he's not telling us the truth about the
:21:35. > :21:38.way he is. The way he comes across - the way he walks and talks I
:21:38. > :21:43.think suggests posh, but because he's Labour he doesn't want to say
:21:43. > :21:46.that. What's he got going for him? He's good looking. He has a good
:21:46. > :21:53.personality. I think he's funny. Miliband, the leader of the Labour
:21:53. > :21:57.Party? Yeah, yeah. I think he's a loser. So after almost two hours,
:21:57. > :22:01.we've discovered that the public in Manchester are almost exactly
:22:01. > :22:07.evenly split, and most people don't seem to think it matters whether he
:22:07. > :22:11.is posh or not, so that was worth Adam Fleming reporting there. Also
:22:11. > :22:16.on the stage today was the Shadow Health Secretary Andy Burnham. As
:22:16. > :22:19.ever, talking about the NHS is a subject that is guaranteed to get a
:22:19. > :22:26.Labour conference going. Conference, a year ago I asked for your help -
:22:26. > :22:31.to join the fight to defend the NHS, the ultimate symbol of Ed's One
:22:31. > :22:36.Nation Britain. You couldn't have done more. You helped me mount a
:22:36. > :22:40.drop-the-bill campaign that shook this coalition to its core. Dave's
:22:40. > :22:49.NHS breakup bill was dead in the water until Nick gave it the kiss
:22:49. > :22:51.of life. As Robert said, NHS privatisation courtesy of the Lib
:22:51. > :23:01.Dems - don't ever let them forget that.
:23:01. > :23:05.
:23:05. > :23:08.APPLAUSE We didn't win, but all was not lost.
:23:08. > :23:13.We reminded people of the strength there still is in this Labour
:23:13. > :23:18.movement of ours when we fight as one - unions and party together for
:23:18. > :23:22.the things we hold in common. And I know you want us to hit them even
:23:22. > :23:25.harder, and we will, but conference, I have to tell you this:
:23:25. > :23:35.It's hard to be a shadow when you're up against the invisible man.
:23:35. > :23:44.
:23:44. > :23:51.Hunt, Jeremy - LAUGHTER
:23:51. > :23:56.The search is on for the missing Health Secretary. A month in the
:23:56. > :24:03.job, but not a word - not a single word from him about the thousands
:24:03. > :24:08.of nursing jobs being lost - not one word about the crude rationing
:24:08. > :24:13.older people left without essential treatment - not a word about moves
:24:13. > :24:23.in the south-west of England to break national pay.
:24:23. > :24:23.
:24:23. > :24:26.APPLAUSE Jeremy Hunt might be happy hiding
:24:26. > :24:30.behind trees while the NHS front line takes a battering, but
:24:30. > :24:34.conference, for as long as I do this job, I will support frontline
:24:35. > :24:40.staff in the NHS, and I will defend national pay in the NHS to the hilt.
:24:40. > :24:45.APPLAUSE To all patients and staff worried
:24:45. > :24:52.about the future, hear me today - the next Labour Government will
:24:52. > :25:02.repeal Cameron's act. We WILL stop the sell-off, put patients before
:25:02. > :25:03.
:25:03. > :25:08.profits, restore the "N" in inn. -- NHS. Conference, I want you to do
:25:08. > :25:13.something now - put it on every leaflet you write, every leaflet
:25:13. > :25:17.you put out, mention it on every doorstep - make the next election a
:25:17. > :25:20.referendum on Cameron's NHS betrayal, and we can save it
:25:20. > :25:24.without another structural reorganisation. I've never had any
:25:24. > :25:30.objection to doctors being more involved in commissioning. It's the
:25:30. > :25:34.creation of a full-blown market I can't accept, so I don't need new
:25:34. > :25:40.organisations. I will simply ask those I inherit to work differently.
:25:40. > :25:45.Now I need your help, conference. My team needs your help to build a
:25:45. > :25:49.Labour vision for the 21st century, for health and care in the century
:25:49. > :25:56.of the ageing society, reflecting on our time in Government. We left
:25:56. > :26:00.an NHS with the lowest ever waiting lists, highest ever patient
:26:00. > :26:03.satisfaction. Conference, always take pride in that record, but
:26:03. > :26:07.where we got it wrong - APPLAUSE
:26:07. > :26:11.But where we got it wrong, let's say so, so while we rebuilt the
:26:11. > :26:16.crumbling, damp hospitals we inherited and provided world-class
:26:16. > :26:23.facilities for patients and staff, some PFI deals were poor value for
:26:23. > :26:27.money. APPLAUSE
:26:27. > :26:31.At times, care of older people simply wasn't good enough, and
:26:31. > :26:36.while we brought waiting lists down to record lows, with the help of
:26:36. > :26:46.the private sector, at times, we let the market in too far.
:26:46. > :26:46.
:26:46. > :26:52.APPLAUSE It's not about new money. We can
:26:52. > :26:56.get better results for people if we think of one budget, one system -
:26:56. > :27:06.caring for the whole person with councils and the NHS working
:27:06. > :27:09.
:27:09. > :27:14.All options must be considered, including the full integration of
:27:14. > :27:24.health and social care. APPLAUSE
:27:24. > :27:30.Conference, the NHS is at a fork in the road - two directions -
:27:30. > :27:36.integration or fragmentation? We have chosen our path, not Cameron's
:27:36. > :27:41.fast track to fragmentation, but whole-person care, a One Nation
:27:41. > :27:46.system built on NHS values putting people before profit, a Labour
:27:46. > :27:54.vision to give people the hope they need to unite a new coalition for
:27:54. > :28:01.the NHS. The NHS desperately needs a Labour win in 2015 - you, me, we
:28:01. > :28:09.are its best hope, its only real hope. It won't last another term of
:28:09. > :28:16.David Cameron - NHS - three letters, not here soon. The man who promised
:28:16. > :28:19.to protect it is privatising it. The man who cut the NHS, not the
:28:19. > :28:29.deficit - Cameron, NHS conman, now more than ever -
:28:29. > :28:31.
:28:31. > :28:35.APPLAUSE Conference, now more than ever it
:28:35. > :28:39.needs folk with the faith to fight for it. You're its best hope, its
:28:39. > :28:49.only hope. You've kept the faith. Now fight for it, and we will win.
:28:49. > :28:52.Thank you, conference. Well, that's it for today. It's
:28:53. > :28:56.been, I think, probably a pretty solid day for the party. They have
:28:56. > :28:59.had some well-received speeches on the floor, and there's still a
:28:59. > :29:04.sense here in the bar that they're having a pretty reasonable week.
:29:04. > :29:07.Tomorrow on the final day of the longest of the party conferences,
:29:07. > :29:10.we'll hear from the Shadow Education Secretary, Stephen Twigg,
:29:10. > :29:13.and in the traditional closing slot, the Deputy Leader of the party,
:29:13. > :29:17.Harriet Harman. The Daily Politics conference