30/09/2013

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:00:08. > :00:29.welcome to another week of Today at Conference. George Osborne had a

:00:29. > :00:32.tough message for the long-term unemployed. He announced fuel duty

:00:32. > :00:36.is to be frozen until May 2015. And he's the right man with the right

:00:36. > :00:38.plan, according to football boss Karren Brady who's to be the

:00:38. > :00:41.Conservatives' small business ambassador. And it would seem that

:00:41. > :00:54.David Cameron doesn't like our balls. Who's got more balls, you or

:00:54. > :00:57.MrsThatcher? The Chancellor, George Osborne, took to the stage in

:00:57. > :01:00.Manchester to speak to Conservative party members. He insisted the

:01:00. > :01:03.Government's economic plan was working but was far from complete.

:01:03. > :01:07.And that by running a budget surplus in the good times, he would fix the

:01:07. > :01:11.roof while the sun was shining. But before we heard from Mr Osborne,

:01:11. > :01:14.there was a little bit of celebrity sparkle, he was introduced by the

:01:14. > :01:18.West Ham vice-chairman and star of The Apprentice, Karren Brady.

:01:18. > :01:34.It is my great privilege that I introduce you to the only man that I

:01:34. > :01:39.would happily be an apprentice for. He is the man behind that business

:01:39. > :01:43.plan, the man who stuck to the plan. The man whose plan is dealing with

:01:43. > :01:51.the utter mess he inherited and putting us on path to a brighter

:01:51. > :01:54.future. He's the right man with the right plan. Ladies and gentlemen,

:01:54. > :01:55.the Chancellor of the Exchequer, right plan. Ladies and gentlemen,

:01:55. > :02:10.George Osborne. Well, thank you. Car Ren, thank you.

:02:10. > :02:22.That was a brilliant introduction. You're hired! At every party

:02:22. > :02:27.conference since the election, as we have gathered, the question for us,

:02:27. > :02:34.the question for me, the question for our country has been, is your

:02:34. > :02:38.economic plan working? They're not asking that question now. The

:02:38. > :02:45.deficit down by a third. Exports doubled to China. Taxpayers' money

:02:45. > :02:50.back from the banks, not going in. 1.4 million new jobs created by

:02:50. > :02:59.businesses. 1,000 new jobs announced in this city today. Our plan is

:02:59. > :03:05.working. Never again should anyone doing my job be so foolish, so

:03:05. > :03:08.deluded, as to believe that they've abolished the age-old cycle of boom

:03:08. > :03:11.deluded, as to believe that they've and bust. I can tell you today that

:03:11. > :03:16.when we've dealt with Labour's deficit we will have a surplus in

:03:16. > :03:27.good times as insurance against difficult times ahead. And provided

:03:27. > :03:32.the recovery is sustained, our goal is to achieve that surplus in the

:03:32. > :03:37.next parliament. That will bear down on our debts, prepare us for the

:03:37. > :03:41.next rainy day, that's going to require discipline and spending

:03:41. > :03:46.control. If we want to protect those things we care about, like generous

:03:46. > :03:50.pensions and decent healthcare and buy the best equipment for the brave

:03:50. > :03:54.men and women who fight in our armed forces, all of us are going to have

:03:54. > :04:00.to confront the costs of modern Government, and cap working age

:04:00. > :04:04.welfare bills. And that wasn't all. Mr Osborne went on to talk about how

:04:04. > :04:07.hard his parents worked to set up their own business. He also

:04:07. > :04:12.announced that he hoped to freeze fuel duty until 2015 to help people

:04:12. > :04:17.with the cost of living. We have cut fuel duty. Abolished Labour's fuel

:04:17. > :04:21.escalator. I can tell you today that provided we can find the savings to

:04:21. > :04:24.pay for it, I want to freeze fuel duty for the rest of this

:04:25. > :04:28.parliament. Conservatives don't just talk about being on the side of

:04:28. > :04:38.hard-working people, we show it day in, day out in the policies we

:04:38. > :04:43.deliver. People aspire to keep more of their income tax-free. Many

:04:43. > :04:50.aspire to run their own businesses and work for themselves. My parents

:04:50. > :04:55.planned carefully, took a risk, set up a small manufacturing company

:04:55. > :04:59.more than 40 years ago. The company grew. Employed more people. And the

:04:59. > :05:04.life of the family business, the orders won, the first exports, the

:05:04. > :05:09.recessions and recoveries, these were the backdrop of my childhood. I

:05:09. > :05:19.am hugely proud of my parents, of what my parents achieved, and I am

:05:19. > :05:23.proud they're in this hall today. We Conservatives are nothing if we're

:05:23. > :05:33.not the party of small business and that's the way it's going to stay.

:05:33. > :05:38.And we're the party of home ownership, too. I am the first

:05:38. > :05:43.person to say we must be vigilant about avoiding the mistakes of the

:05:44. > :05:48.past. That's why I gave powers to the Bank of England to stop

:05:48. > :05:53.dangerous housing bubbles emerging. But too many people are still being

:05:53. > :05:59.denied the dream of owning their own home. So instead of starting the

:05:59. > :06:06.next phase of Help To Buy next year, we are starting it next week. The

:06:06. > :06:09.Chancellor went on to tell party members that the long-term

:06:09. > :06:12.unemployed will have to undertake work placements in return for their

:06:12. > :06:17.benefits, under tougher rules. The Help to Work scheme. What about the

:06:17. > :06:22.long-term unemployed? Let us pledge here we will not abandon them as

:06:22. > :06:27.previous governments did. Today I can tell you about a new approach

:06:27. > :06:31.we're calling Help To Work. For the first time, all long-term unemployed

:06:31. > :06:34.people who are capable of work will be required to do something in

:06:34. > :06:39.return for their benefits and to help them find work. They will do

:06:39. > :06:43.useful work putting something back into their community. Making meals

:06:44. > :06:48.for the elderly, clearing up litter, working for a local charity. Others

:06:48. > :06:56.will be made to attend the Jobcentre every working day. For those with

:06:56. > :06:59.underlying problems like drug addiction and illiteracy there will

:06:59. > :07:03.be an intensive regime of support. No one will be ignored or left

:07:03. > :07:07.without help. No one will get something for nothing. Help to work

:07:08. > :07:11.and in return work for the dole, because a fair welfare system is

:07:11. > :07:28.fair to those who need it, and fair to those who pay for it, too.

:07:28. > :07:34.Earlier this year, the greatest of our peace-time Prime Ministers died.

:07:34. > :07:38.I was there in the cathedral at that emotional farewell. As I looked at

:07:38. > :07:43.the coffin in front of me, draped in the Union Flag, I thought to myself,

:07:43. > :07:47.for what will Margaret Thatcher best be remembered? Her strength? Her

:07:47. > :07:52.conviction? The simple fact she was the first woman Prime Minister? Yes,

:07:52. > :07:57.she'll be remembered for all of those things. But for me what she

:07:57. > :08:01.really had was optimism. She refused to accept that Britain was in

:08:01. > :08:06.terminal decline. She believed Britain had a great future, that the

:08:06. > :08:16.British people could lead better and more prosperous lives and do -- so

:08:16. > :08:22.do we. I tell you something, we are at our best when we are optimists.

:08:22. > :08:27.We are at our best when we have faith that our country's better days

:08:27. > :08:34.lie not behind us, but ahead. We've fought hard battles these last three

:08:34. > :08:39.years. Held our nerve when all around urged us to give in. I want

:08:39. > :08:44.people to look back at these years and say yes, these were the years of

:08:44. > :08:48.difficult cuts and sacrifice. But this was also the time when I bought

:08:48. > :08:52.my first home, set up my business, when our country invested in the

:08:52. > :08:56.things that matter for our future. These were the years when we laid

:08:56. > :09:00.the sound economic foundations on which better living standards are

:09:00. > :09:06.built, the sound foundations without which better living standards cannot

:09:06. > :09:10.be built. This is the time for a serious plan for a grown-up country.

:09:10. > :09:15.We are turning Britain around. We say to the people of this nation, we

:09:15. > :09:18.rescued the economy together. We are going to recover together. And

:09:18. > :09:22.together we are going to share in the rewards. For the sun has started

:09:22. > :09:24.to rise above the hill. The future looks brighter than it did just a

:09:24. > :09:37.to rise above the hill. The future few dark years ago. Thank you very

:09:37. > :09:39.much. As we heard, the Chancellor pledged

:09:39. > :09:44.that a future Conservative Government would run a budget

:09:44. > :09:46.surplus to protect the economy. Straight after the Chancellor's

:09:46. > :09:53.speech, Andrew Neil spoke to the Conservative Chairman, Grant Shapps,

:09:53. > :09:56.on The Daily Politics. Andrew challenged him that as they were

:09:56. > :10:00.predicting deficits for years to come, it will be a long time before

:10:00. > :10:04.they can run a surplus. It takes as long as it does to turn an economy

:10:04. > :10:07.around that we now know was the deepest recession this country had

:10:07. > :10:10.experienced certainly since the war, twice as deep as that in America, of

:10:10. > :10:14.course, those figures now available show that's how bad it was under the

:10:14. > :10:18.previous Government. It takes time to turn a ship like that around. We

:10:18. > :10:21.are making progress, of course. We cut a third off the deficit. He's

:10:21. > :10:25.made clear we are going to finish the job and then make sure that when

:10:25. > :10:28.times are good we are running a surplus so this country can afford

:10:28. > :10:34.it when there is another rainy day. Not before 2020 then? Well, I don't

:10:34. > :10:39.know how long it's going to take. We have a clear projectory. I very much

:10:39. > :10:44.hope we will have made more progress by the time we go to the election in

:10:44. > :10:48.2015. So, it takes as long as it takes. The fact is what was

:10:48. > :10:52.significant about today was George was saying never again, we are never

:10:52. > :10:56.going to have that same mistake that Labour made of failing to fix the

:10:56. > :11:01.roof when the sun was shining. On UKIP, if a Conservative backbencher,

:11:01. > :11:06.Eurosceptic, decides to do a deal with UKIP at the next election, so

:11:06. > :11:10.that UKIP doesn't run against him or he runs as a joint Tory-UKIP

:11:10. > :11:14.candidate, as party chairman what will you do? First of all, our

:11:14. > :11:19.policy of course is to have a referendum on a reformed Europe in

:11:19. > :11:21.the next parliament by 2017. All of our candidates will be standing on

:11:21. > :11:26.the basis that the Conservatives will give you a referendum. What

:11:26. > :11:31.will you do? Secondly, I am explaining, we will run candidates

:11:31. > :11:36.in all 650 constituencies as we always do. Thirdly, they will only

:11:36. > :11:39.ever be on the ballot paper as Conservative candidates. If a

:11:39. > :11:44.sitting Tory MP or aspiring Tory MP does a deal to be a joint candidate

:11:44. > :11:48.with UKIP you will take them off the Tory approved list? They will not be

:11:48. > :11:52.able to run as Tories? Just to be clear, this is different to the way

:11:52. > :11:55.it used to work in the past. Every single person who stands for this

:11:55. > :11:59.election in this country for a party has to be signed off by that party

:11:59. > :12:04.to legally be the candidate. They will only be people on the ballot

:12:04. > :12:06.papers described as Conservative candidates. There is no other

:12:06. > :12:10.papers described as Conservative description. You will disown your

:12:10. > :12:15.candidate who is try to run with UKIP? They can stand as

:12:15. > :12:20.Conservatives, signed off as Conservatives. I still don't know

:12:20. > :12:23.what you will do. Will a joint candidate still be the Tory

:12:23. > :12:25.candidate? I don't understand what you mean by joint candidate. He can

:12:25. > :12:29.only be the Conservative candidate. you mean by joint candidate. He can

:12:29. > :12:33.The only description that can apply to him now whether UKIP stand or not

:12:34. > :12:38.is their business. I can't see if I'm want to have a referendum over

:12:38. > :12:42.Europe, for example, any point in UKIP standing anywhere. We are the

:12:42. > :12:44.people who are going to offer the referendum and clearly David Cameron

:12:44. > :12:46.as the only other choice to Ed Miliband walking up Downing Street

:12:47. > :13:06.is the only Prime Minister to deliver on that pledge.

:13:06. > :13:09.The fringe event of the day was for Nigel Farage. It was standing room

:13:09. > :13:16.only and there were plenty of Tory MPs there. He said only UKIP was

:13:16. > :13:21.promising a real referendum on Britain's membership of the European

:13:21. > :13:26.Union. And the idea that somehow there is going to be a deal that

:13:26. > :13:32.goes on between David Cameron and myself and UKIP, well, frankly, the

:13:32. > :13:38.fact that I have been excised from the brochure of fringe meetings here

:13:38. > :13:42.in Manchester tells you how likely that is. They regard us as being

:13:42. > :13:48.members of the lower orders. They must be truly appalled that in the

:13:48. > :13:52.upper reaches of UKIP we have working class people. This must be

:13:52. > :14:05.the most shocking thing for Cameron to see. It really must. We are

:14:06. > :14:09.treated with contempt. It was terribly funny on a programme

:14:09. > :14:14.yesterday, he couldn't bring himself to mention my name or the word UKIP.

:14:14. > :14:20.It's all too difficult. There isn't going to be a deal between us and

:14:20. > :14:28.the Conservative Party at the next general election. That is

:14:28. > :14:33.impossible. And our voters wouldn't want it. It would not be in the

:14:33. > :14:37.national interests, frankly, to put MrCameron back in office when he

:14:37. > :14:49.believes in continued membership of the European Union. But, I am not a

:14:49. > :14:54.wholly unreasonable person. And I do recognise that there are some people

:14:54. > :14:57.on the back benches in the Conservative Party and indeed there

:14:57. > :15:04.are some in the Labour Party, too, who feel as UKIP feel on most of

:15:04. > :15:13.these key issues. I think Peter Bone who's sitting here and Others have

:15:13. > :15:15.made the running with the idea that why can't we have perhaps in some

:15:15. > :15:22.made the running with the idea that areas a co-operation that takes

:15:22. > :15:26.place at local level between UKIP associations and Tory or perhaps

:15:26. > :15:33.even Labour local associations? My attitude is, you know, we run our

:15:33. > :15:36.party on a very autonomous basis and if conversations take place at local

:15:36. > :15:39.level with sitting Members of Parliament who want the support of

:15:39. > :15:44.the local UKIP branch, and intend to run on a joint ticket, I am

:15:44. > :15:50.open-minded to that because it seems to me getting those MPs back into

:15:50. > :15:52.Westminster probably would be in the national interest and something

:15:52. > :16:09.where UKIP would be prepared to work with you.

:16:09. > :16:14.Earlier today I caught up with Lynton Crosby. We are talking about

:16:14. > :16:18.UKIP today. How worried should be the party be by it? The party's

:16:18. > :16:20.UKIP today. How worried should be focussed on the future and the

:16:21. > :16:24.policies it's taking the British people and that's what it should

:16:24. > :16:40.focus on. That's enough? Of course. No change? No. Boris Johnson, isn't

:16:40. > :16:43.due to speak from the floor tomorrow morning, the Mayor of London and

:16:43. > :16:46.conference darling is already working his magic on the fringe.

:16:46. > :16:48.What is the definition of a milisecond? It's the time it takes

:16:48. > :16:58.Ed Miliband to follow instructions of Len McCluskey. What is the

:16:58. > :17:02.definition of a millimetre? It is the maximum distance that Ed will

:17:02. > :17:08.allow himself to deviate from the policies of Unite or another union.

:17:08. > :17:19.What is the definition of a milipede? I don't know, some sort of

:17:19. > :17:27.left-wing insect, obviously. So, my message to the charming MrsFarage

:17:27. > :17:32.and all those who believe in that way of thinking, and all her

:17:32. > :17:35.friends, is look, don't vote for UKIP. Don't even think about it

:17:35. > :17:42.because we will see this country if you do so as sleepwalk into a repeat

:17:42. > :17:51.of the Labour Government. UKIP if you want to. If I can channel

:17:51. > :18:01.MrsThatcher. UKIP if you want to. David Cameron's not for kipping.

:18:01. > :18:07.Unless obviously he is at his sister-in-law's wedding. We are in a

:18:07. > :18:11.- you will dpre, we are in a far, far better position now as

:18:11. > :18:15.Conservatives having done I think a fantastic job. Our Government has

:18:15. > :18:21.done a fantastic job since the election of 2010. We are in a far

:18:21. > :18:25.bter position than we could have dreamed. We can win this argument

:18:25. > :18:30.about living standards and show as George Osborne rightly said today

:18:30. > :18:35.that we are the party with the serious policies to continue

:18:35. > :18:40.creating conditions for a sustained and durable private sector recovery.

:18:40. > :18:44.And we can show over the course of the next couple of years until the

:18:44. > :18:51.election, less than two years now, that that is the best way to spread

:18:51. > :18:56.opportunity, to generate jobs, to tackle poverty and inequality which

:18:56. > :19:03.should be and are prime Conservative concerns, and to take Britain

:19:03. > :19:10.forward. We won the argument. We won exactly this argument in London in

:19:10. > :19:15.2012. Between short-term fools gold, and investment in our City. We are

:19:15. > :19:18.seeing exactly the same pitch now from Miliband and Labour to the

:19:18. > :19:23.country at large and I have no doubt that we can win across the country

:19:23. > :19:34.in Britain in 2015. Thank you very much indeed for listening.

:19:34. > :19:37.This afternoon, it was the turn of the Home Secretary, Theresa May, and

:19:37. > :19:41.her team. Mrs May reiterated the Conservatives' pledge to scrap the

:19:41. > :19:44.Human Rights Act and pull out of the European Convention on Human Rights

:19:44. > :19:56.if it restricts the UK's ability to act in the national interest.

:19:56. > :19:59.We must not for one second underestimate the threat we face

:19:59. > :20:05.from terrorism and the challenges we must meet in confronting extremism.

:20:05. > :20:08.But let the message go out from this hall today that whatever the race,

:20:08. > :20:13.religion, and beliefs of a terrorist, whatever the race,

:20:13. > :20:19.religion and beliefs of their victims, this is Britain and we are

:20:19. > :20:27.all British. We stand united against terrorism and we will never succumb

:20:27. > :20:36.all British. We stand united against to violence.

:20:36. > :20:41.It's because of the terrorist threat that this Government has taken a

:20:41. > :20:48.tough new approach. A new strategy to confront all forms of extremism,

:20:48. > :20:52.not just violent extremism. More foreign hate preachers excluded than

:20:52. > :21:01.ever before. And foreign terror suspects, including Abu Hamza, and

:21:01. > :21:12.Abu Qatada, removed from Britain for good.

:21:12. > :21:17.But it's ridiculous that the British Government should have to go to such

:21:17. > :21:22.lengths to get rid of dangerous foreigners. That's why the next

:21:22. > :21:39.Conservative manifesto will promise to scrap the Human Rights Act. It's

:21:39. > :21:42.why Chris Grayling is leading a review of our relationship with the

:21:42. > :21:46.European Court. It's why the Conservative position is clear, if

:21:46. > :21:52.leaving the European convention is what it takes to fix our human

:21:52. > :22:02.rights laws, that is what we should do. Those are issues for the general

:22:02. > :22:05.election when Labour and the Lib Dems will have to explain why they

:22:06. > :22:09.value the rights of terrorists and criminals more than the rights of

:22:10. > :22:15.the rest of us. In the meantime, we need to do all we can now to limit

:22:15. > :22:19.the damage. The Government will soon publish the Immigration Bill, which

:22:19. > :22:24.will make it easier to get rid of people with no right to be here.

:22:24. > :22:29.First, we're going to cut the number of appeal rights. At the moment, the

:22:29. > :22:37.system is like a never-ending game of snakes and ladders with almost

:22:37. > :22:41.70,000 appeals heard every year. The winners are foreign criminals and

:22:41. > :22:46.immigration lawyers. While the losers are the victims of these

:22:46. > :22:51.crimes and the public. So we're going to cut the number of appeal

:22:51. > :22:56.rights from 17 to four. And in doing so, cut the total number of appeals

:22:56. > :23:03.by more than half. Last year, human rights were cited in almost 10,000

:23:03. > :23:07.immigration appeal cases. The second thing we will do is extend the

:23:07. > :23:14.number of non-suspencive appeals. That means that where there is a

:23:14. > :23:18.rips - no risk of serious and irreversible harm we should deport

:23:18. > :23:31.foreign criminals first, and hear their appeals later.

:23:31. > :23:36.And third, the Immigration Bill will sort out the abuse of Article 8, the

:23:36. > :23:39.right to a family life, once and for all. This is used by thousands of

:23:39. > :23:43.people to stay in Britain every year. The trouble is, while the

:23:43. > :23:49.European Convention makes clear that a right to a family life is not

:23:49. > :23:54.absolute, judges often treat it as an unqualified right. That's why I

:23:54. > :23:59.published new immigration rules stating that foreign criminals and

:23:59. > :24:04.illegal immigrants should ordinarily be deported, despite their claim to

:24:04. > :24:07.a family life. Those rules were debated in the House of Commons.

:24:07. > :24:13.a family life. Those rules were They were approved unanimously. But

:24:13. > :24:16.some judges chose to ignore parliament and go on putting the law

:24:16. > :24:21.on the side of foreign crim naps instead of the public. So I am

:24:21. > :24:26.sending a very clear message to those judges. Parliament wants the

:24:26. > :24:31.law on the people's side. The public wants the law on the people's side.

:24:31. > :24:45.And Conservatives in Government will put the law on the people's side

:24:45. > :24:47.once and for all. At every conference, there are stalls for

:24:48. > :24:51.party members to peruse and buy things from when they're not in the

:24:51. > :24:54.conference hall. Here in Manchester, there's a Harvey Nichols stall, for

:24:54. > :25:08.example. But one of the most popular stalls is the one selling Margaret

:25:08. > :25:12.Thatcher memorabilia. The best-selling item so far is an Iron

:25:12. > :25:15.Lady bib and new in today is this cloth bag which looks like a

:25:15. > :25:19.handbag. But can David Cameron match up to Lady Thatcher? Adam Fleming

:25:19. > :25:20.has been finding out with his moodbox.

:25:20. > :25:23.You can't move for tributes to the Iron Lady. There is even a gift shop

:25:23. > :25:27.dedicated to her. Who will members vote as the better leader? Margaret

:25:27. > :25:33.Thatcher or David Cameron? What has she got that Cameron hasn't? Guts.

:25:33. > :25:40.Guts and determination and standing up. Could David Cameron do anything

:25:40. > :25:44.to swing your vote? No. Thank you very much. Messed it up on the gay

:25:44. > :25:50.votes for me, that was the final thing for me. I am a massive Cameron

:25:50. > :25:55.fan. Will he have more of a historical legacy than the Iron Lady

:25:55. > :26:01.Probably not. It won't be a radical time. Will the Tories see the like

:26:01. > :26:06.of her again? Maybe. I don't know if in my lifetime. I hope so. Is there

:26:06. > :26:13.a potential Iron Lady in the ranks you can see? I don't think so.

:26:13. > :26:18.Cameron is more democratic than Thatcher was. I can't say no to

:26:18. > :26:22.MrsThatcher. But I have to say a big yes to David Cameron. Most people my

:26:22. > :26:29.age don't know much about Thatcher. I happen to be a fan, I ever seen

:26:29. > :26:34.everything she has done on TV Literally everything? Every clip I

:26:34. > :26:38.have seen on YouTube. How do you think MrsThatcher would react if I

:26:38. > :26:43.thrust these in her face? You naughty boy! Would you rather work

:26:43. > :26:48.for David Cameron or Margaret Thatcher? That's David Cameron's

:26:48. > :26:51.Chief of Staff. The hall was packed, people standing around the edges and

:26:51. > :26:55.there was an excitement and buzz about politics. And today that's all

:26:55. > :27:03.gone. What's Cameron's miners' strike?

:27:03. > :27:08.UKIP. Someone has paid someone to put the balls in the Cameron one.

:27:08. > :27:12.Then by the end of the day, quite soon probably, the Thatcher one will

:27:12. > :27:18.be overflowing. And they'll have to transfer some to the Cameron one.

:27:18. > :27:24.Hang on, I see a bit of Thatcher fashion tribute going on here. I

:27:24. > :27:36.look like a granny, is that what you mean! No, no, just one more.

:27:36. > :27:45.Thatcher or Cameron? Um... Both. Sorry. It's an either/or. As an

:27:45. > :27:52.historian you can't got some people. I am going to go for Thatcher, she

:27:52. > :27:55.had balls. Who has more balls, Thatcher or Cameron? If David

:27:55. > :28:01.Cameron was here voting he would vote for the person that I am going

:28:01. > :28:08.to vote for. Who is? Lady Thatcher, of course. Prime Minister, who's got

:28:08. > :28:10.more balls you or MrsThatcher? The Prime Minister must have seen it as

:28:10. > :28:14.more balls you or MrsThatcher? The he swept through here. The result of

:28:14. > :28:24.the moodbox that Thatcher is more popular than he is.

:28:24. > :28:27.That's it for today in Manchester as the Conservative Party take on board

:28:27. > :28:29.George Osborne's speech. Tomorrow, one of the Conservatives' most

:28:29. > :28:32.recognisable figures addresses the party's conference - the Mayor of

:28:32. > :28:36.London, Boris Johnson. Also speaking in the course of the day are the

:28:36. > :28:38.Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, and the Education Secretary, Michael

:28:38. > :28:41.Gove. The Daily Politics Conference

:28:41. > :28:44.Special will be on BBC2 at midday tomorrow and I'll be back tomorrow

:28:44. > :28:46.night after Newsnight with another Today at Conference. Until then,

:28:46. > :28:55.goodnight.