:00:10. > :00:11.Good evening, and welcome to Today at Conference, from
:00:12. > :00:30.The NHS was at the heart of his pitch, and he promised to
:00:31. > :00:37.To be paid for by a levy on tobacco firms, a tax on expensive homes
:00:38. > :00:43.We'll hear from the Shadow Health Secretary, Andy Burnham.
:00:44. > :00:50.Some say he saved the Union in last week's referendum.
:00:51. > :00:58.We ask delegates here if it's time for a comeback?
:00:59. > :01:05.Labour is ahead in the polls, but Ed Miliband's personal ratings
:01:06. > :01:08.are poor, the party is still not trusted on the economy.
:01:09. > :01:11.Today, in his last major Conference speech, ahead of a general election
:01:12. > :01:15.next year, it was his chance to look and sound every bit the leader.
:01:16. > :01:25.He began by talking about a new ethic for governing the country.
:01:26. > :01:30.I'm not talking about a different policy or a different programme. I'm
:01:31. > :01:36.talking about something much bigger. I'm talking about a different idea,
:01:37. > :01:41.a different ethnic for the way our country succeeds. For all the sound
:01:42. > :01:45.and fury in England, Scotland, Wales across the United Kingdom what
:01:46. > :01:49.people are saying to us is - this country doesn't care about me. Our
:01:50. > :01:52.politics doesn't listen, our economy doesn't work. They're not wrong,
:01:53. > :01:58.they're right. This Labour Party is going to put it right.
:01:59. > :02:05.APPLAUSE Because you're on your own doesn't work for you. It doesn't
:02:06. > :02:08.work for your family. It doesn't work for Britain.
:02:09. > :02:19.APPLAUSE Can we build a different future for
:02:20. > :02:24.our country? Of course we can. But with a different idea for how we
:02:25. > :02:30.succeed. An idea that, in the end, won the referendum. An idea I love
:02:31. > :02:36.because it says so much about who we are, and who we have it in ourselves
:02:37. > :02:43.to become an idea rooted in this party's character and in our
:02:44. > :02:48.country's history. An idea that built our greatest institutions, and
:02:49. > :02:56.got us through our darkest moments. An idea that is just one simple
:02:57. > :03:01.word, "together". Together, together we can restore faith in the future.
:03:02. > :03:08.Together we can build a better future for the working people of
:03:09. > :03:20.Britain. Together we can rebuild Britain, friends, together we can.
:03:21. > :03:22.The core of his remarks was a six-point plan
:03:23. > :03:48.He referred to people he had met on his travels, including one who was
:03:49. > :03:53.in the hall with him. Now, we need a plan for jobs. We need a plan for
:03:54. > :03:58.wages. We need a plan that is going to actually help the working
:03:59. > :04:04.families of our country. But at the heart of our plan, for our country
:04:05. > :04:08.and for your is a future for all of our young people. I met somebody
:04:09. > :04:14.called Elizabeth, the other day. Where is she? She's here. Elizabeth,
:04:15. > :04:19.stand up for one second. Elizabeth is an apprentice.
:04:20. > :04:28.APPLAUSE she is one of the lucky few,
:04:29. > :04:33.friends. She is one of the lucky few. Elizabeth's school because I
:04:34. > :04:36.met her yesterday, Elizabeth's school helped her to get an
:04:37. > :04:40.apprenticeship. So many other schools don't do that. Lots of the
:04:41. > :04:44.young people I meet who are on apprenticeships say - my school said
:04:45. > :04:48.apprenticeships were rubbish and they wouldn't help me. Now I'm
:04:49. > :04:51.doing, it it's really great for me. Frankly, there aren't enough of
:04:52. > :04:57.them. They aren't high quality enough. Our fourth national goal is
:04:58. > :05:01.that by 2025, as many young people will be leaving school or college to
:05:02. > :05:04.go on to apprenticeship as currently go to university.
:05:05. > :05:25.We will transform our NHS. It's time to care about our NHS. We need
:05:26. > :05:29.doctors, nurses, midwives, careworkers who are able to spend
:05:30. > :05:37.proper time with us, not rushed off their feet. So we will set aside
:05:38. > :05:44.resources so that can have in our NHS 3,000 more midwives, 5,000 more
:05:45. > :05:51.careworkers, 8,000 more GPs, and 20,000 more nurses. An NHS with time
:05:52. > :06:19.to care. APPLAUSE
:06:20. > :06:29.In order to pay for it, we won't borrow and extra penny or raise
:06:30. > :06:35.taxes on ordinary working families. We'll clampdown on tax avoidance,
:06:36. > :06:49.including tax loopholes by the hedge fund, to raise over ?1 billion. .
:06:50. > :07:00.APPLAUSE We will use the reeds of a mansion tax, on homes above ?2
:07:01. > :07:05.million. -- proceeds. And, we will raise extra resources from the
:07:06. > :07:09.tobacco companies who make soari in g profits on the back of ill-health.
:07:10. > :07:16.APPLAUSE The emphasis on the NHS has
:07:17. > :07:19.encouraged the view that he is appealing to the core group rather
:07:20. > :07:23.than reaching out to groups beyond. Such is Britain's electoral
:07:24. > :07:31.arithmetic, he can win. There was one new demographic that
:07:32. > :07:45.he did reach out to today - You know, people think Westminster
:07:46. > :07:49.politics is out of touch. Irrelevant and often disconnected from their
:07:50. > :07:51.lives. As somebody who stands at Prime Minister's Questions each
:07:52. > :07:58.Wednesday, I often know what they mean! Look, we might as well say it
:07:59. > :08:02.- it's what people think about politics. They think it's not about
:08:03. > :08:06.them. We have to change it. We don't just need to restore people's faith
:08:07. > :08:10.in the future, with this economic and social plan. We need to change
:08:11. > :08:15.the way politics works in this country. What does that mean? First
:08:16. > :08:21.of all, it's time to hear the voice of young people in our politics. We
:08:22. > :08:44.will give the vote to 16 and 17-year-olds in general elections.
:08:45. > :08:56.It's time to complete the unfinish business of the reform of the House
:08:57. > :09:03.of Lords. It's time to devolve power in England. -- finish. I'm
:09:04. > :09:07.incredibly proud of our proposals to reverse a century of centralisation.
:09:08. > :09:14.There can be no better place to be talking about this than here in
:09:15. > :09:19.Manchester, devolving power to local government, bringing power closer to
:09:20. > :09:30.people right across England. APPLAUSE We need bigger reform of
:09:31. > :09:33.our constitution, here is the thing, friends. Given everything we know
:09:34. > :09:38.about what people think of Westminster politics, it's got to be
:09:39. > :09:43.led by the people. It ca some Westminster stitchup. That is why we
:09:44. > :09:47.need a proper, constitutional convention, harnessing the civic
:09:48. > :09:51.energy and spirit of people right across our land, England, Scotland,
:09:52. > :09:55.Wales, every part of the United Kingdom.
:09:56. > :09:59.His promises on the NHS brought the Conference alive.
:10:00. > :10:02.He used the word "together" 51 times during his speech.
:10:03. > :10:08.The budget deficit wasn't mentioned at all.
:10:09. > :10:14.I say to every person in our country, who believes that tomorrow
:10:15. > :10:19.can be better than today, we need you. Together we bring up our
:10:20. > :10:23.families. Together we look out for our neighbours. Together we care for
:10:24. > :10:27.our communities. Together we build great businesses, the best in the
:10:28. > :10:32.world. Together we teach the young. Together we heal the sick. Together
:10:33. > :10:36.we care for the old. Together we invent cures for the most terrible
:10:37. > :10:40.of diseases, of course, friends, together we can rebuild our country.
:10:41. > :10:43.Together we can reward hard work. Together we can ensure the next
:10:44. > :10:50.generation does better than the last. Together we can make our NHS
:10:51. > :10:54.greater than its ever been before. Together we can make Britain
:10:55. > :10:59.prouder, stronger in the world. Together we can restore faith in the
:11:00. > :11:03.future. On our own, we can't, but together we can. In the next eight
:11:04. > :11:07.months the British people face one of the biggest choices in
:11:08. > :11:12.generations. A choice between carrying on as we are, on your own,
:11:13. > :11:19.for the privileged view, or a different, better future for our
:11:20. > :11:23.country. We're ready. Labour's plan for Britain's future. Let's make it
:11:24. > :11:26.happen - together. Thank you very much.
:11:27. > :11:34.APPLAUSE. This has been a curiously flat
:11:35. > :11:37.conference, but it was somewhat Jo Coburn spoke to some of
:11:38. > :11:48.the audience as they left the hall. Let us ask some of them what you
:11:49. > :11:53.thought. Your impressions of the speech? I thought it was a strong
:11:54. > :11:58.speech. It has gin us a lot to work with, sell on the doorstep this
:11:59. > :12:02.Saturday. I like particularly the announcement on more doctors,
:12:03. > :12:08.nurses. That got a massive cheer? And the fact that has been married
:12:09. > :12:11.up with action on tax loopholes, it makes it a strong offer to our
:12:12. > :12:15.supporters in the public. What about some of the other things, votes for
:12:16. > :12:20.16 to 17-year-olds? Was that something that appealed to you? I
:12:21. > :12:24.think the votes for 16 to 17-year-olds is a positive move. 16
:12:25. > :12:27.and 17-year-olds showed themselves to be engaged in the Scottish
:12:28. > :12:30.referendum wef know that young people everywhere vote more commonly
:12:31. > :12:35.when they have been voting from a younger age. It will engender
:12:36. > :12:41.participation with our young Positive answer there people. .
:12:42. > :12:50.What about you, what did you think? I thought it was fairly solid, we
:12:51. > :12:54.talked about opening up politics wider than the Westminster bubble,
:12:55. > :12:59.that built on the experience of the Scottish referendum. He said solid,
:13:00. > :13:06.that doesn't sound very inspirational, were you expecting
:13:07. > :13:10.more? I think he obviously has a lot to deliver today and he did that.
:13:11. > :13:18.Are you going to take it to the doorsteps? I probably will! What was
:13:19. > :13:24.the big thought from that speech? The NHS is so big and has been
:13:25. > :13:31.crushed by the Conservatives, he has a plan. The Labour Party is also the
:13:32. > :13:40.first party to come out and say that all T is a problem. The NHS, people
:13:41. > :13:43.might say that belongs to Labour, what about things like balancing the
:13:44. > :13:50.books, did we hear enough about that? I think we did and I think he
:13:51. > :13:54.is the right man to lead us. What has Cameron actually done in five
:13:55. > :13:59.years? He has come out and said, these are the things we have to do.
:14:00. > :14:04.He hasn't made promises you can't keep like Nick Clegg. No party can
:14:05. > :14:08.turn things around in five years, he has admitted that. The 10-year plan,
:14:09. > :14:16.that's longer than Stalin! has admitted that. The 10-year plan,
:14:17. > :14:25.about the slogan, who can remember that? Togetherness. Together, we can
:14:26. > :14:31.achieve more together. We can have democratic socialism for the first
:14:32. > :14:38.and final time in Britain, we can achieve 1945 again, where we created
:14:39. > :14:43.the NHS. This is only the start, come 2025, when we have a democratic
:14:44. > :14:51.socialist society, the next ten year plan, we can have a greater
:14:52. > :14:56.socialist society! The 10-year plan is brilliant. You can see his speech
:14:57. > :15:02.is inspiring, you can see he's going to number ten Downing St. This is
:15:03. > :15:06.the man for the people. This is the best for Britain! The lady has my
:15:07. > :15:21.microphone! Back to you. So, more money for the NHS, paid for
:15:22. > :15:24.by a so-called mansion tax, by a new levy on tobacco companies and yet
:15:25. > :15:32.another attempted crackdown on tax avoidance. I tried to dig deeper
:15:33. > :15:38.with Andy Burnham and began by asking him how much with the mansion
:15:39. > :15:42.tax raise? We are being cautious, saying it could raise ?1.2 billion.
:15:43. > :15:46.Lets remember the Liberal Democrats fought the last election on this
:15:47. > :15:52.proposal, saying it would create 1.7. So we have erred on the side of
:15:53. > :16:00.caution, we know that cynicism out there. We know the NHS can't have
:16:01. > :16:06.that right now, it needs to know whether is coming from. So how are
:16:07. > :16:11.you going to raise this 1.2 billion from the mansion tax? How will you
:16:12. > :16:16.identify the homes worth more than 2 million? Because we will use the
:16:17. > :16:24.figures that are there, the property values collected by the land
:16:25. > :16:32.Registry office. It's not my area of expertise! They reflect the
:16:33. > :16:37.prices... It is when the house was sold! There could be a house sold in
:16:38. > :16:44.the 94 million that is now worth 5 million. It is the valuation that is
:16:45. > :16:51.on the properties, that is what we will use. There is no current
:16:52. > :17:00.valuation on properties. How will you identify the homes that are over
:17:01. > :17:05.2 million? This is not my area. The policy is, I haven't worked out all
:17:06. > :17:11.the details, that's not what I have been doing. I am not actually the
:17:12. > :17:15.Treasurer, I am the Shadow Health Secretary and I'm putting together a
:17:16. > :17:18.plan for the NHS. You promising money on the back of something you
:17:19. > :17:26.don't know how the money is going to be raised. We are saying it could at
:17:27. > :17:29.least give us ?1.2 billion. Mansion tax on properties worth more than 2
:17:30. > :17:34.million, raising more on the most expensive properties. You are hoping
:17:35. > :17:41.for an extra billion on tax avoidance, that's going to be NHS?
:17:42. > :17:47.Last year Mr Miliband said that that money, from cracking down on tax
:17:48. > :17:52.avoidance, taking back the 150 million from the hedge fund, that
:17:53. > :17:59.would go on the bedroom tax and stop now it's going on the NHS. We have a
:18:00. > :18:05.plan to prevent people avoiding tax using hedge fund, closing the Euro
:18:06. > :18:13.bonds loophole, used by large companies to avoid paying their
:18:14. > :18:17.share of tax and also umbrella organisations to help people avoid
:18:18. > :18:21.their obligations. This is a carefully worked out plan. I know
:18:22. > :18:27.you are paid to try and pick holes in it... I will try again. Last year
:18:28. > :18:32.all of these things, he said would go on the bedroom tax, now it's
:18:33. > :18:38.going on the NHS. You are spending it twice. Not at all. You also
:18:39. > :18:46.haven't mentioned the money we will be taking from tobacco companies.
:18:47. > :18:50.That is 150 million. That's nothing. This package means that the ordinary
:18:51. > :18:54.people of this country do not have to pay more for the NHS, we are
:18:55. > :18:59.asking those who are making money off the back of ill-health, not
:19:00. > :19:11.their fair share, 2-page transform our NHS. But you will only get 150
:19:12. > :19:15.million from that. But according to NHS England and the figures you have
:19:16. > :19:21.quoted, there is a 30 billion shortfall so that 150 million from
:19:22. > :19:28.tobacco companies is neither here nor there. I am putting together a
:19:29. > :19:34.plan at the heart of this election campaign for a national health and
:19:35. > :19:40.care service, bringing social care into the NHS for the first time. Why
:19:41. > :19:43.is this so important? Because it means we can spend a few pounds
:19:44. > :19:49.supporting people properly in their own homes, not spending thousands of
:19:50. > :19:56.pounds with people in hospital and Sarah Lee. The change is the route
:19:57. > :20:01.towards sustainability for the NHS in the ageing society. The cost of
:20:02. > :20:04.living has been a constant theme for over a year and Conference turned to
:20:05. > :20:11.it again this morning. Train fares are always a prayer and the Shadow
:20:12. > :20:14.Transport Secretary promised to deliver the biggest chains to the
:20:15. > :20:23.roadways since they were privatised in the 1990s. Today I will set out
:20:24. > :20:27.how the Labour government will deliver the big change we need in
:20:28. > :20:32.transport, to deliver infrastructure, to tackle the cost
:20:33. > :20:38.of transport, and give London style transport powers to other areas. Big
:20:39. > :20:42.change to make our roads safer. The next they begun mud will make a
:20:43. > :20:52.swift decision on airport expansion in the national interest. -- the
:20:53. > :20:58.next Labour government. On rail infrastructure, we support HS2,
:20:59. > :21:01.which was bought our country. We must keep costs under control and
:21:02. > :21:06.there is no blank cheque for this or any other project but the benefits
:21:07. > :21:10.will be great. And Labour government will deliver the biggest reform of
:21:11. > :21:15.the railways since privatisation, to deliver a better deal for taxpayers
:21:16. > :21:19.and passengers. We will bring network rail and the passenger rail
:21:20. > :21:29.body together to coordinate track and trail operations and look after
:21:30. > :21:34.passengers. A Labour government will cap fares, legislate to allow a
:21:35. > :21:39.public sector operator to be able to take on lines and challenge the
:21:40. > :21:44.train operators on a level playing field, we will devolve closer to the
:21:45. > :21:50.communities they serve. Only a Labour government will deliver the
:21:51. > :21:54.infrastructure we need to support British jobs and growth, and make
:21:55. > :21:56.the big change to give cities the powers to
:21:57. > :22:01.the big change to give cities the create a railway that
:22:02. > :22:03.the big change to give cities the passengers before profit, and tackle
:22:04. > :22:08.the cost of passengers before profit, and tackle
:22:09. > :22:16.road congestion and give everyone the freedom to travel safely. Let's
:22:17. > :22:21.get out there and get on with it. Ed Miliband thanked the key Labour MPs
:22:22. > :22:24.who had played their part in the fight against Scottish independence,
:22:25. > :22:29.all bar code on the, which we pointed out. He must've been
:22:30. > :22:34.watching, because he began his roll of honour with Gordon Brown. The
:22:35. > :22:37.former PM played a pivotal part in the final days of the referendum
:22:38. > :22:43.campaign which has led many to say it was time for a comeback. We sent
:22:44. > :22:49.Adam out to find out what they think here. There is a lot of buzz around
:22:50. > :22:52.Gordon Brown who found a new lease of life on the independence
:22:53. > :22:56.referendum campaign trail but do people want a month front line of
:22:57. > :23:01.politics or should he stay on the back benches? It's ironic that David
:23:02. > :23:04.Cameron of four people had to ask Gordon Brown to rescue the
:23:05. > :23:08.Cameron of four people had to ask campaign -- of all people. A man of
:23:09. > :23:14.his abilities it should be given some consideration. I think you
:23:15. > :23:24.should be on the Treasury. Shadow Chancellor? Maybe something like...
:23:25. > :23:29.Junior. Do you think he would accept a junior spokesperson role? I don't
:23:30. > :23:35.see it. You would have him straightaway? Absolutely. He was
:23:36. > :23:45.treated unfairly, he saved all my savings. I would say that front line
:23:46. > :23:51.Scotland backbencher in England. I think he could make a huge
:23:52. > :23:57.difference in Scotland. Loads of people have said Gordon Brown should
:23:58. > :24:00.replace her! People listen to him at the last election, he would have
:24:01. > :24:05.been in power, his plans were excellent for the economy. But he
:24:06. > :24:14.did lose the last election spectacularly. Yes, because people
:24:15. > :24:22.believe the press. If you ever see him, I hope he comes back. Hello, is
:24:23. > :24:29.Gordon Brown's book flying off the shelves? Not especially. I did have
:24:30. > :24:41.a bunch of lads coming yesterday to touch Tony Blair's face. It is true!
:24:42. > :24:47.He just seemed to have a different sort of spun to him, if that is a
:24:48. > :24:57.word I can use. Is Ed Miliband less spun he? Definitely. It was a fair
:24:58. > :25:01.fight. I just thought he wouldn't win the election for us and they
:25:02. > :25:09.wanted a change in leadership, that is a fair, democratic point of view.
:25:10. > :25:23.I will call that no. No, we share a lift! Who comes around the corner,
:25:24. > :25:27.I'm going to cry. Given Iain Jensen Smith and the hardship he is putting
:25:28. > :25:33.people through, I think Gordon Brown could be a good antidote to Iain
:25:34. > :25:39.Duncan Smith. Have you just fired Rachel Reeves? Do you want to see
:25:40. > :25:42.Gordon Brown back on the front line? Ask Rupert Murdoch and his friend
:25:43. > :25:51.Alex meant to play bloody games, don't ask me. -- Alex Salmond. He
:25:52. > :25:55.says he's too old to be a comeback kid but the message from Labour
:25:56. > :26:03.Party Conference is clear, Gordon, they want you back! I spoke to
:26:04. > :26:08.Caroline Flint and asked if she would like to see Gordon Brown back.
:26:09. > :26:12.Tell you what, it was great having him back a few weeks ago, the minute
:26:13. > :26:17.be on the front bench in Parliament he is still there when you need
:26:18. > :26:21.him, nobody can take away from him what great character and foresee
:26:22. > :26:28.has. What's the answer to my question? I think it's about the
:26:29. > :26:33.role he wants to play, we have a team under Ed Miliband and we have
:26:34. > :26:40.to take it forward. What do you want him to do? He may be watching.
:26:41. > :26:43.Gordon, it's good to see you in the front line of politics, it's good to
:26:44. > :26:48.have you when we need you and it's good when you are part of our team.
:26:49. > :26:53.I have answered your question! I think he has his own future he is
:26:54. > :26:59.thinking about, and we have an excellent team to lead us into the
:27:00. > :27:04.next election. You want said he used you as window dressing. I said he
:27:05. > :27:08.wasn't giving women enough prominence and I stand by that. But
:27:09. > :27:17.I never take away the contribution he played, and when you need him, he
:27:18. > :27:24.steps up. Ed Miliband had no cut through in Scotland. When you have
:27:25. > :27:28.personalities from Scotland like Alistair and Gordon, what had cut
:27:29. > :27:36.through were some of the policies under Ed Miliband we are putting
:27:37. > :27:42.forward. Then why does his personal ratings and at lower than David
:27:43. > :27:51.Cameron? It is part of how people are going to vote but look...
:27:52. > :27:56.Personal ratings for people like Margaret Thatcher haven't always
:27:57. > :28:02.been high. When you ask people who they think is most in touch, they
:28:03. > :28:09.say Ed Miliband. That's it for today. On the day that Ed Miliband
:28:10. > :28:15.outlined plans for what parliamentary terms with the NHS at
:28:16. > :28:19.its core. Whether it's the right strategy to convince the country
:28:20. > :28:24.that Mr Miliband is the man to lead it and run the economy, we will find
:28:25. > :28:28.out in the months ahead. Tomorrow, Andy Burnham. It followed by Yvette
:28:29. > :28:48.Cooper. We are back at noon. We are also
:28:49. > :29:01.back with our last great programme after Newsnight.
:29:02. > :29:03.I'm a friend of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
:29:04. > :29:10.What exactly does it entail, this job?
:29:11. > :29:14.There aren't many mums who'd let their sons run off to join
:29:15. > :29:16.the circus. Welcome to Keele University.
:29:17. > :29:21.You can't just get things by asking. I can. Is Tony Benn in today?
:29:22. > :29:24.How do you fancy coming to work for me? Kit man.