17/09/2016 - Live Third Session

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:02:31. > :02:41.Good afternoon. Good afternoon. With every bone in mind taking their

:02:42. > :02:51.sheet, please. -- would everyone mind. If you could take your seat I

:02:52. > :02:55.would be most grateful. Thank you for accommodating our change in the

:02:56. > :03:02.starting time for this session. We are allowed an extra 15 minutes for

:03:03. > :03:06.lunch. I am delighted to now started this very interesting penultimate

:03:07. > :03:12.session of the conference here in Bournemouth and I would like to

:03:13. > :03:13.introduce to the podium your appreciation for our leader, Diane

:03:14. > :03:30.James. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome again.

:03:31. > :03:37.From my perspective, to the conference again this afternoon. NBA

:03:38. > :03:43.few moments it will be my absolute pleasure to invite Douglas Carswell,

:03:44. > :03:55.Ukip's MP, to address you. I, like many of you... Yes, let's do that.

:03:56. > :03:59.APPLAUSE I went to Clacton to support him, he took a very

:04:00. > :04:06.courageous decision to leave the Tories and come to us and I am not

:04:07. > :04:09.interested in what has gone on beforehand.

:04:10. > :04:17.I want you to get the most rapturous welcome to Douglas Carswell MP,

:04:18. > :04:30.you'd get MP. Many thanks. -- Ukip MP.

:04:31. > :05:00.thank you for that warm introduction. The referendum victory

:05:01. > :05:03.on June the 20 thirds was not the Conservative Party victory, it was

:05:04. > :05:12.not Labour's pectin, it was our victory. APPLAUSE. -- it was not

:05:13. > :05:19.Labour's victory. It was your directory, it was Ukip victory. We

:05:20. > :05:24.dared not just forced them to hold the referendum, we helped win it.

:05:25. > :05:30.Looking around I see lots of familiar faces, people who I know

:05:31. > :05:37.are helped run street stalls, people who went out handing out leaflets,

:05:38. > :05:41.who did not just do that during the referendum campaign but people I

:05:42. > :05:46.know did that for years. Thank you for what you did. In the referendum

:05:47. > :05:53.and before. It would not have happened without you. I also want to

:05:54. > :06:00.say well done to Diane, our new leader. It was a wonderful listening

:06:01. > :06:06.to her speaking yesterday. It takes a certain something for someone to

:06:07. > :06:12.offer themselves to Leeds, not just a political party, but the third

:06:13. > :06:17.largest party in British politics today. -- offer themselves to lead.

:06:18. > :06:26.I salute all of the candidates who put themselves forward for the job.

:06:27. > :06:30.APPLAUSE the membership is now spoken and made a clear choice.

:06:31. > :06:41.We must now all rally behind the Diane. APPLAUSE Diane, I give you

:06:42. > :06:51.110% of my support. Well done.

:06:52. > :06:55.APPLAUSE it has been a great year for our party.

:06:56. > :06:59.A few years ago the experts in Westminster said we would never get

:07:00. > :07:05.the referendum. David Cameron and George Osborne were estimates it

:07:06. > :07:10.would not happen. -- they were adamant. It did. The experts said

:07:11. > :07:15.the leave the site could never win. At times it felt like the entire

:07:16. > :07:21.weight of the Government machine was against us, not just Downing Street,

:07:22. > :07:25.but the so-called experts and economists, the central bankers,

:07:26. > :07:32.corporate bankers, lobbyists, the CBI. George Osborne blew up the long

:07:33. > :07:38.list of experts ready to tell us to come to heal. -- George Osborne blew

:07:39. > :07:52.up. The fall in line, or as Barack Obama put it, HQ, to tell us what to

:07:53. > :07:55.do. -- a a queue. It seems to me we're starting even earlier this

:07:56. > :08:00.year. They said interest rates would go up and instead they went down.

:08:01. > :08:06.They said there would be a recession and instead we seen growth. They

:08:07. > :08:10.said the economy could not cope. I suspect more jobs will have been

:08:11. > :08:21.created in Britain since the referendum than the whole of the

:08:22. > :08:25.rest of the EU combines. We won despite having the system rigged

:08:26. > :08:29.against us and Ukip can keep on winning despite having the system

:08:30. > :08:36.stacked against us. Nowhere is the system rate more against us than it

:08:37. > :08:44.is in Westminster. -- rigged against us. Sitting on those green benches I

:08:45. > :08:49.often find myself surrounded by 50-something Scottish Nationalist

:08:50. > :08:55.MPs, 56, I think. We got three times more votes than they got at the last

:08:56. > :09:03.election. And yet there are 50 of them. APPLAUSE and only one Ukip MP.

:09:04. > :09:09.How can that be fair? The SNP and the Liberal Democrats gets you asked

:09:10. > :09:13.question Time, questions of Prime Minister's Question Time, I am lucky

:09:14. > :09:18.if I get called to speak at all. We got more votes than the Lib Dems,

:09:19. > :09:29.Plaid Cymru, the Ulster Unionist Party Green Party combined. APPLAUSE

:09:30. > :09:34.I know how unfair our political system in this country really is.

:09:35. > :09:41.I sit next to it everyday. We urgently needs electoral reform. We

:09:42. > :09:48.need to make those parliaments more accountable to constituents. And

:09:49. > :09:52.supper the neighbouring county for the Mac people voted overwhelmingly

:09:53. > :10:00.to leave the EU yet every single Suffolk MP supported remain. Across

:10:01. > :10:05.the country only a tiny handful of principal patriotic and in many

:10:06. > :10:13.cases wonderful Labour MPs supported leave. The rest, the overwhelming

:10:14. > :10:15.majority, voted Remain. Michael Gove famously once described the

:10:16. > :10:25.education establishment in this country as being the blob. I tell

:10:26. > :10:32.you, the real blob and Britain is sitting in the House of Commons.

:10:33. > :10:39.That is where the group thing is to be found. It is group think that has

:10:40. > :10:42.been running this country for too many years and running it into the

:10:43. > :10:52.ground. APPLAUSE or we are beating the group

:10:53. > :10:55.thinkers on Europe and on immigration.

:10:56. > :11:02.My job in Parliament is to offer an alternative voice where the blob has

:11:03. > :11:07.got it wrong. Britney to those in Westminster that all agree Belgians

:11:08. > :11:09.are pounds of overseas aid should be spent at the Government the

:11:10. > :11:19.Government to Government subsidy. -- millions of pounds of overseas aid.

:11:20. > :11:24.We can win an end to those who cannot see what is wrong with taking

:11:25. > :11:28.money from normal people while giving money to the banks.

:11:29. > :11:36.Quantitative easing is a fancy way of saying hand-outs for banks.

:11:37. > :11:42.We need to press the Government on the timing of article 50. There will

:11:43. > :11:47.be vested interests trying to stall the process and Ukip must push to

:11:48. > :11:51.make sure they get on with it. I am going to be working and continuing

:11:52. > :11:55.to work with Mark reckless and others in the House of Commons. We

:11:56. > :12:00.have been producing policy papers setting out a range of alternative

:12:01. > :12:05.ideas on everything from energy policy, breaking open the cartels

:12:06. > :12:15.surrounding the family courts. Ukip needs to be the party for change. We

:12:16. > :12:18.should be the party that people vote for if they want to change. Upbeat,

:12:19. > :12:27.optimistic, change for a better and brighter future. APPLAUSE it is an

:12:28. > :12:32.enormous honour to call myself a member of this great party and I am

:12:33. > :12:35.looking forward to working with Diane and was team Ukip.

:12:36. > :13:10.Thank you. APPLAUSE

:13:11. > :13:16.thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, when we look

:13:17. > :13:23.at people in our party who have served it for a long time with

:13:24. > :13:27.dignity, tenacity and undoubted loyalty, there are a few people who

:13:28. > :13:34.can hold the level of our next Speaker. I have been asked and it is

:13:35. > :13:38.a difficult request, but I have been asked by Stuart Agnew, apparently

:13:39. > :13:43.standard request he makes a conference, do not clap him during

:13:44. > :13:48.his speech, please. He wants you to get your hands a rest and to save

:13:49. > :13:54.them for rapturous applause at the end of his speech. Ladies and

:13:55. > :13:59.gentlemen, we can get funky round of applause to welcome him on stage,

:14:00. > :14:07.Stuart Agnew. -- we can give him. APPLAUSE I hope the microphone is

:14:08. > :14:15.working. I will take you on a Brexit journey.

:14:16. > :14:21.That started 15 years ago when I was asked to go and join the debate in

:14:22. > :14:25.the NFU council and in those days I was in Norfolk delegate to the NFU

:14:26. > :14:29.council. The president said we ought to have a debate every now and then

:14:30. > :14:35.after the first debate was we think we should join the euro. He needed

:14:36. > :14:40.somebody to oppose that, you might think everyone would jump up but not

:14:41. > :14:43.in those days but I said I would do it, I had never done a debate before

:14:44. > :14:49.and he said I will tell you the rules. So we went and had a debate

:14:50. > :14:53.and I was thrashed by 56 votes to 11 but it was great from and it was a

:14:54. > :15:00.useful experience and I thought Apple gear. -- great fun. Back home

:15:01. > :15:05.a lot of Norfolk farmers were most unhappy their delegate their oppose

:15:06. > :15:11.the euro and when I was up to the election they found a candidate to

:15:12. > :15:16.stand against me. So I thought I like this job but I am not going to

:15:17. > :15:23.compromise what I believe, I am going to make it clear I oppose the

:15:24. > :15:26.euro. I had to get 20 nominations from 20 Norfolk farmers, I approach

:15:27. > :15:31.farmers and said well you support the again? But I do not like the

:15:32. > :15:35.euro and I do not want you to be under any misapprehensions. Some

:15:36. > :15:41.said we like you but we like the euro more than you so we can't. I

:15:42. > :15:48.got the 20 nominations and one had to think about the election. --

:15:49. > :15:52.election address. I have 50 words on farming enterprise, 50 words on the

:15:53. > :15:57.NFU and 50 word rant against the euro. Why not? That on the ballot

:15:58. > :16:02.paper and a lot of my friend said that if the suicide note. Why did

:16:03. > :16:07.you do that? I easily won the competition. That meant I was in a

:16:08. > :16:18.strong position from there after. I wasn't opposed and had a mandate

:16:19. > :16:24.at against the euro. Two years later I was a candidate in an election. It

:16:25. > :16:27.happened to coincide to coincide with a council meeting. Norfolk

:16:28. > :16:32.farmer said Stuart Agnew shouldn't go to a council meeting, there was a

:16:33. > :16:36.big row about it. In the end I went around telling everybody I'd been

:16:37. > :16:41.banned from the NFU council meeting because I stood for Ukip. That gave

:16:42. > :16:45.me a bit of kudos. We then move onto a surprise invitation I got to speak

:16:46. > :16:50.at the Oxford farming conference. That may mean nothing to you, but

:16:51. > :16:54.that is the premier event in farming. It takes place at Oxford

:16:55. > :17:00.University while the students are on vacation in January. We take over a

:17:01. > :17:05.couple of colleges and lecture rooms, the first morning is the big

:17:06. > :17:08.part of it. I'll let you know that everybody who thinks they are

:17:09. > :17:12.important in forming and all the allied industries go to the Oxford

:17:13. > :17:15.farming conference. If you think you're important in any way

:17:16. > :17:23.connected with Apple Kenji Goto. It is the place to be seen. Like smart

:17:24. > :17:28.people at Ascot. -- if you are anyway connected to agriculture it

:17:29. > :17:34.is the place to be seen. Ministers of agriculture spoke, and sometimes

:17:35. > :17:38.even royalty. In the afternoon there are more technical discussions about

:17:39. > :17:43.supplies and retailers. In the evening we go to the Oxford union

:17:44. > :17:48.debating chamber. I was asked what I propose the motion, this house

:17:49. > :17:53.believes that Arab culture would thrive outside the EU --

:17:54. > :17:57.agriculture. I was really nervous, really worried about doing this in

:17:58. > :18:01.front of an audience like that. But with the help of Tony Brown who have

:18:02. > :18:06.the right may speech I was allocated a second from the Young farmers

:18:07. > :18:10.club. We had some practice in the farmers club and we took this really

:18:11. > :18:15.seriously. I knew I'd be beaten, but by God I was going to put up a

:18:16. > :18:22.fight. We had a straw poll lead at the beginning. I got between ten and

:18:23. > :18:28.20% support. We gave that the full welly and we won the debate. We

:18:29. > :18:32.actually won the debate. That was seismic, not just for me personally,

:18:33. > :18:40.but from that moment on you couldn't say that all farmers think the EU is

:18:41. > :18:46.wonderful except etc. Some thought it was a one-off, a year later I

:18:47. > :18:50.went to Belfast for a similar debate in Stormont parliament. I won that

:18:51. > :18:55.as well. They couldn't say Oxford was a one off. That set up a tone, a

:18:56. > :19:00.movement in farming that we didn't have to be tied to the EU. We could

:19:01. > :19:09.actually survive and thrive without it. Now, that had built up this

:19:10. > :19:14.platform. I think that was important because I was asked back to Oxford

:19:15. > :19:19.again, at the beginning of 2015. This time to speak on the first

:19:20. > :19:22.morning, what an honour. 15 or 20 years ago with some have said you

:19:23. > :19:30.will be doing that, look at that pig farm over their! I got the chance to

:19:31. > :19:34.outline Ukip's policy for the General Election in a 20 minute

:19:35. > :19:38.speech, we lost the General Election and I forgot about it. Several

:19:39. > :19:43.months later I met a relative of mine who is an agricultural student.

:19:44. > :19:48.He said, all, I liked your Oxford speech. I told him he couldn't have

:19:49. > :19:51.afforded to get to go there. No, no, I didn't go there but our

:19:52. > :19:57.agricultural lecture gave us a link to your speech and told us we must

:19:58. > :20:02.watch it. So my head gets bigger! That was before the referendum

:20:03. > :20:06.campaign. But started properly in November last year. That was the

:20:07. > :20:11.first of 20 specialised our culture debates I was involved with against

:20:12. > :20:15.some big names, around the country, sometimes in media studios with a

:20:16. > :20:21.big audience. I realised about the NFU were asking my Ukip follies to

:20:22. > :20:27.speak at debates about Brexit. They might be up against Tory MPs or MEPs

:20:28. > :20:31.who know a lot about farming. I worried about this and I sent out

:20:32. > :20:35.three lots of briefing papers picking up on my own experience,

:20:36. > :20:40.because I was doing these debates hoping that would help them. I was

:20:41. > :20:43.worried. I know a lot of farming, but they don't. I must have got

:20:44. > :20:47.something right because Farage came up to me in Brussels and said I

:20:48. > :20:53.liked that briefing paper and a sword, Frank God for that. Two of

:20:54. > :20:59.these 26 debate stands out in my mind. The first one was in Norfolk

:21:00. > :21:04.when I was speaking about food security and the problem of

:21:05. > :21:10.importing more and more food and the worry of terrorist activity. There

:21:11. > :21:14.was a young man in the audience smirking condescendingly, it

:21:15. > :21:18.irritated me and I called him out. I said, young man, you wouldn't smirk

:21:19. > :21:22.if you have knew how much of the rings I had when I was your age will

:21:23. > :21:28.stop that wipe the smirk off his face but I made an enemy for ever.

:21:29. > :21:33.Five days later a bomb went off in Brussels yards from where I was

:21:34. > :21:38.sitting. Whenever I spoke about terrorism after that nobody smirked.

:21:39. > :21:43.Now, the second one that stands out in my mind is the one I did in

:21:44. > :21:48.Wales. I was up against no less than the Commissioner for agriculture, an

:21:49. > :21:53.Irishman, native English-speaking who had come from a farming

:21:54. > :21:58.background in Ireland. He was my opponent there. The place was

:21:59. > :22:03.packed. Full of media. It was standing room only. I said,

:22:04. > :22:06.Commissioner, I have a perfectly good personal relationship with you

:22:07. > :22:13.but I don't think you should be here telling us how to vote. It's similar

:22:14. > :22:17.to the Obama thing. He said I'd been invited. We had the debate and I

:22:18. > :22:22.think I did reasonably against someone of his stature, believe he

:22:23. > :22:25.has stature, please. At the end everybody rushed up. They wanted to

:22:26. > :22:30.be for direct with the Commissioner. I was elbowed out of the way, I

:22:31. > :22:34.politely moved aside. Then they said Stuart is going to be in this

:22:35. > :22:38.picture, he is part of this debate. He always goes out of his way to be

:22:39. > :22:44.nice and pleasant to me. Quite different from his predecessor who,

:22:45. > :22:47.was a gift to me, really. Mainly because he couldn't speak English

:22:48. > :22:52.properly and he only had to address the NFU conference for about ten

:22:53. > :22:57.minutes. He was doing my work for me. He very quickly lost the

:22:58. > :23:01.farmers. He got it back on me for saying I shouldn't be in Wales when

:23:02. > :23:06.I went to our cultural event in Cork in Ireland. He was there too. And as

:23:07. > :23:11.usual he came up to me, shot hands and said what are you doing here? I

:23:12. > :23:15.said I've been to Ireland twice, actually, since the vote. I tried to

:23:16. > :23:20.persuade the Irish to follow Britain out of the European Union. He leaned

:23:21. > :23:30.forward and fed into my ear, you mind your own business! With a grin

:23:31. > :23:34.on his face he thought I might be hurt or offended, I was just

:23:35. > :23:41.laughing. Now, where do we go from there? Sometimes, Lady luck shines.

:23:42. > :23:44.And she shone on me in one way during this campaign for the

:23:45. > :23:50.referendum. It became apparent that the EU might ban the herbicide that

:23:51. > :23:54.has been the backbone of farming operations ever since the mid-70s.

:23:55. > :24:01.Most farmers could not imagine life without it. Particularly in British

:24:02. > :24:04.conditions. It certainly undermined the arable farmers, large arable

:24:05. > :24:14.farmers who are normally absolutely pool EU. -- pro-EU. It worried them.

:24:15. > :24:18.I spoke in Strasberg for two minutes about this. Three minutes before I

:24:19. > :24:24.was due to give the speech one of the staff ran up to me and said

:24:25. > :24:28.you've got three minutes now. That was wonderful. I could relax a

:24:29. > :24:33.little bit and give a speech on this chemical. That went well. It went

:24:34. > :24:37.viral, apparently in agricultural circles because I then went to the

:24:38. > :24:42.cereals event in Hertfordshire in June. A big outdoor event. And as I

:24:43. > :24:46.walked about looking at tractors, one thing and another people were

:24:47. > :24:52.coming up to me and saying wouldn't you that bloke in that video? My

:24:53. > :24:57.head gets even bigger! Then we had a proper debate, opposing me was the

:24:58. > :25:01.NFU president and former Minister of agriculture, Lady luck shone on me

:25:02. > :25:13.again. I had the very last word. I was able to say a vote to remain is

:25:14. > :25:17.a vote to ban this. My opponent look miserable we go on from there just

:25:18. > :25:24.looking at some opportunities in agriculture. I'm going to go through

:25:25. > :25:27.these very quickly. I am part of a think tank headed up by Lord Brooke

:25:28. > :25:34.and other peers. We are preparing a paper that we haven't finished yet,

:25:35. > :25:41.but Steph are expecting it. We had a quick list of opportunities. We can

:25:42. > :25:47.retailer agricultural schemes. We can rethink of farm support schemes.

:25:48. > :25:51.I haven't met a Labour MP or Tory MP at who says we shouldn't support

:25:52. > :25:57.agriculture. It's just a matter of how we do it. We do not need knee

:25:58. > :26:01.jerk reactions to pesticides from the green lobby. We need proper

:26:02. > :26:07.field research to study the impact of what we are using on our crops in

:26:08. > :26:15.the wider environment. We should be using them. We can't repatriate

:26:16. > :26:19.organic farming. - the EU has taken an approach on this woods make life

:26:20. > :26:26.impossible for organic farmers. How flexible do you want to be? If we go

:26:27. > :26:30.down the EU would you won't get organic food. It will be too

:26:31. > :26:34.difficult. Then we looked into food labelling. We have the opportunity

:26:35. > :26:42.to label food and that will really make dairy farmers they are unhappy

:26:43. > :26:46.that they think Irish milk is being labelled as British, one way or the

:26:47. > :26:51.other. Public sector coolant. We have to put this will tend outside

:26:52. > :26:55.the EU. What an opportunity to say to hospitals and prisons, why not

:26:56. > :27:02.sourced locally? Who knows, patients may require a quicker with both

:27:03. > :27:08.local food? Aren't prisoners may get on the past to true righteousness

:27:09. > :27:13.quicker. This is a huge area, obviously. We'll have to have a look

:27:14. > :27:17.at them. Some obvious ones are identification of the compulsory and

:27:18. > :27:22.John it money that doesn't work. Asked by staff and stop. And going

:27:23. > :27:30.through these very fast, I am aware of that. How much time have I got?

:27:31. > :27:35.Two minutes. Foot and mouth, we go back to the report, we were not

:27:36. > :27:39.allowed to use this report in 2001 and had to burn all these carcasses

:27:40. > :27:45.which made the thing worse. This is my village. This is the main street.

:27:46. > :27:49.Look at that closely. Two weeks after the Brexit result, Brendan,

:27:50. > :27:53.who lives in that has commissioned an artist to put back there. Note

:27:54. > :27:58.that one of the stars has been removed and has fallen as a

:27:59. > :28:02.teardrop. The media learned that I lived in the parish and will roll

:28:03. > :28:06.over the area. Aren't you upset about this, don't you want to get

:28:07. > :28:13.down? Know, every time I drove past I'm reminded of my success. Some of

:28:14. > :28:17.you may remember a singer in the 1960s called Del Shannon, I'm not

:28:18. > :28:21.going to sing his song, there are two types of teardrops but he said

:28:22. > :28:40.there was one for sorrow, one for joy. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE.

:28:41. > :28:52.I apologise that I started the applause at some point during that.

:28:53. > :28:56.Earlier, when an new leader was introducing Douglas Carswell she

:28:57. > :29:02.talked about people with integrity and honour. Willing to sacrifice

:29:03. > :29:05.positions to do what was right. In our former chairman's speech

:29:06. > :29:13.yesterday Steve Crowther talked about our conference in Doncaster as

:29:14. > :29:18.one of his happiest moments, seeing certain MEPs who looked a lot like

:29:19. > :29:32.Stuart Agnew dancing in the aisles. When we unveiled Mark Reckless.

:29:33. > :29:36.APPLAUSE. I don't honestly believe there is any better representation

:29:37. > :29:39.of real integrity in politics than this man. He deserves huge

:29:40. > :29:44.appreciation from all of us. We are all delighted and assembly member,

:29:45. > :30:03.representing Ukip in Wales, Mark Reckless. APPLAUSE

:30:04. > :30:13.having moved from the Conservatives to Ukip and from Rochester to

:30:14. > :30:26.Cardiff, I'm often asked where the grass is greener. The answer is

:30:27. > :30:31.Wales. Because it rained so much. -- drains so much. I did take an

:30:32. > :30:35.interest in the climate as chairman of the climate change environment

:30:36. > :30:43.and rural affairs committee. For the Welsh assembly. I'm very grateful to

:30:44. > :31:02.Stuart Agnew for his briefings, on which I've relied on many occasions.

:31:03. > :31:11.I was even told by security that there could be protests disrupting

:31:12. > :31:21.our first committee meeting. That was before I decided to hold it at

:31:22. > :31:32.9am. The day after Wales had been any football semifinal. APPLAUSE it

:31:33. > :31:38.has been sunny Bournemouth for most of the conference and that is also

:31:39. > :31:43.the outlook our economy. The economic forecasters at the big

:31:44. > :31:48.banks and universities and Government departments, they forget

:31:49. > :31:56.one thing as they projected doom and gloom, that their negativity was

:31:57. > :32:03.that of just 48%. We have 52% knew things would look up, we would be

:32:04. > :32:15.better off out and was restoring control comes renewed confidence.

:32:16. > :32:21.APPLAUSE so while many broadcasters and their company bosses and the

:32:22. > :32:25.banks wrung their hands and predicted a recession, most people

:32:26. > :32:32.woke up with a smile on their face. None more so than in this room. It

:32:33. > :32:38.is those people who have been going out and spending, retail sales are

:32:39. > :32:42.up 6% on the year. They have been creating jobs with unemployment

:32:43. > :32:48.falling further. They have seen the pound more competitive with foreign

:32:49. > :32:55.income worth more so at last we are beginning to close I was huge

:32:56. > :33:00.overseas deficit. Brexit offers us a huge opportunities. It is no

:33:01. > :33:05.surprise the 52% to knew that already are faster to grasp them.

:33:06. > :33:11.The risks to our economy lie not in a Brexit, but in an incontinent

:33:12. > :33:18.central bank. And in weak productivity. Since I was appointed

:33:19. > :33:24.as our economy spokesman I have repeatedly said that it is time

:33:25. > :33:33.interest rates went up rather than down.

:33:34. > :33:37.APPLAUSE yet almost whatever the economic news the bank of England

:33:38. > :33:42.just cuts interest rates further and Prince more and more money.

:33:43. > :33:48.It is not just the bank of England that lost its way by central banks

:33:49. > :33:53.globally. For almost a generation now. As long ago as 1987 when the

:33:54. > :33:59.stock market fell central banks cut interest rates and added fuel to the

:34:00. > :34:06.booming economy. They get the same in 1998. And again in 2001 when the

:34:07. > :34:11.dot-com boom faulted. As central banks cut rates when stock markets

:34:12. > :34:17.fall but failed to increase them when stock markets rise, the

:34:18. > :34:22.consequences is ever higher house prices and more and more debts

:34:23. > :34:29.loading down our economy. The Bank of England's actions now I fear are

:34:30. > :34:34.making the situation even worse. As well as devastating the finances of

:34:35. > :34:39.pension funds and pensioners. Central banks were at least a

:34:40. > :34:42.responsible for the financial crash of 2007 - eight as the commercial

:34:43. > :34:52.banks they were meant to oversee by a loving growth and depth to out of

:34:53. > :34:55.hand. -- by allowing. We can understand why they began quantitive

:34:56. > :34:59.easing and cutting interest rates. If it was emergency measures to deal

:35:00. > :35:04.with the crisis, but what cannot make sense is continuing those

:35:05. > :35:08.policies for nearly a decade following the crisis. Worse still,

:35:09. > :35:15.the back of England stuck any remainder mindset is responding to

:35:16. > :35:19.Brexit as if it has precipitated another economic crisis yet the

:35:20. > :35:23.reality is the economy is growing and the bank of England is

:35:24. > :35:30.unleashing a further flood of money we simply do not need. As well as

:35:31. > :35:33.retail sales are growing at 6% the Bank of England's own preferred

:35:34. > :35:39.measure of the money supply is expanding by 14% a year. Against

:35:40. > :35:45.that background it is surely time for caution. Let's call a halt to

:35:46. > :35:58.quantitive easing and put interest rates up, not down.

:35:59. > :36:02.APPLAUSE to raise our productivity would be to reward real investment

:36:03. > :36:05.and Channel capital to more productive uses.

:36:06. > :36:09.That is what banking and our financial system is meant to do.

:36:10. > :36:15.Unfortunately, bailing out the banks, printing money and holding

:36:16. > :36:20.interest rates close to zero and has stopped finance working as it

:36:21. > :36:26.should. Instead of seeing businesses with bad business models give way to

:36:27. > :36:32.more productive firms, zombie banks keep over indebted firms on life

:36:33. > :36:39.support. Being just about able to service a loner party presents

:36:40. > :36:44.interest a year is not a good test for where a country should be

:36:45. > :36:50.investing savings. That is holding back growth in productivity and then

:36:51. > :36:54.holding back our standard of living. The same goes with the rules and

:36:55. > :37:00.regulations made by the EU for 40 years with so little regard for our

:37:01. > :37:05.particular needs and interests. Overall, productivity has also been

:37:06. > :37:10.held back by a big increase in a lower skilled work. Letting

:37:11. > :37:15.employers and port as much labour as the light from EU countries far

:37:16. > :37:17.poorer than ours allows the Government to hold down wages for

:37:18. > :37:27.many in this country. APPLAUSE

:37:28. > :37:34.Our party knows that and that is why I think many but far from all voted

:37:35. > :37:42.for us and Junior 23rd and we are now going to be a free and

:37:43. > :37:48.independent country. -- June at. The flip side of what happened in our

:37:49. > :37:54.labour market is by a loving employers to import cheap labour --

:37:55. > :37:59.allowing. The Government discouraged capital investment. People have

:38:00. > :38:04.voted for change. Outside the EU we can follow a different path to a

:38:05. > :38:08.higher wage, higher productivity economy. Now we really can look

:38:09. > :38:16.beyond Europe to the global horizon. With laws to suit our needs, trade

:38:17. > :38:21.deals beyond Europe, a competitive currency, sensible monetary policy

:38:22. > :38:25.and a belief in Britain, our best days lie ahead. We really are more

:38:26. > :38:29.than a star on somebody else's flight.

:38:30. > :38:49.APPLAUSE -- somebody else's slide. -- flag.

:38:50. > :39:03.Thank you, Mark. One of my proudest moments in the party over recent

:39:04. > :39:12.times was seeing our next Speaker sworn in as an AM in London. I was

:39:13. > :39:16.part of the process of looking at candidates ahead of the assembly

:39:17. > :39:20.elections in London last year and I was absolutely astonished by the

:39:21. > :39:25.quality and capabilities of the man who is going to speak now. He has

:39:26. > :39:31.been invited to deliver a speech on education on behalf of Paul Nuttall,

:39:32. > :39:37.who is our outgoing education spokesman. Or may not be outgoing,

:39:38. > :39:47.who knows. I believe we have got a short video to show before we begin.

:39:48. > :40:55.The non-dropping of the lights. ladies and gentlemen, David Kurten.

:40:56. > :41:03.Thank you very much for your kind introduction. No pressure to have a

:41:04. > :41:08.great speech. Many of you know me as one of two members of the London

:41:09. > :41:13.assembly for Ukip. It has been a fantastic year for Ukip in winning

:41:14. > :41:17.the referendum and also getting a representation in London for the

:41:18. > :41:22.first time for 12 years so I am very happy and proud of that. But as well

:41:23. > :41:28.as being on the London assembly some of you may know I was a teacher,

:41:29. > :41:32.chemistry teacher, for around 20 years before I got into politics and

:41:33. > :41:41.I was the teacher up until March this year. My privileged teaching

:41:42. > :41:45.career has taken me to both state schools and private schools in this

:41:46. > :41:49.country and abroad. One thing I will never forget in my teaching career

:41:50. > :41:55.was when I was teaching in one particular school in Eastern Europe.

:41:56. > :41:59.It was a private school which had some scholarships and the head boy

:42:00. > :42:06.of the school was a scholar from a poorer role in the north of that

:42:07. > :42:10.country. In his graduation speech he said this. I am so grateful for the

:42:11. > :42:16.opportunity that I have had to come to this school. It has opened my

:42:17. > :42:22.eyes the world I never knew existed. And from now on I do not just up the

:42:23. > :42:28.opportunity of coming here but I am going to university in America. But

:42:29. > :42:34.when I go home to my own town, I see my old friends and I talk to them

:42:35. > :42:40.for a while but after a while I feel like I don't have anything to say to

:42:41. > :42:44.them any more. I feel I have moved on to a higher level and I do not

:42:45. > :42:51.have anything in common with my old friends any more.

:42:52. > :42:58.So that was the speech with great joy and also great sadness in it.

:42:59. > :43:03.For that particular boy. He was plucked from his town and given the

:43:04. > :43:08.chance to shine and Excel. I think I'm probably you do as well, the

:43:09. > :43:13.situation is similar in this country. I am sure you know the

:43:14. > :43:18.statistic that 7% of average people get the opportunity to go to private

:43:19. > :43:22.schools and good for them. And this country is known all around the

:43:23. > :43:27.world for being a place of educational excellence. Many times

:43:28. > :43:30.because people think of schools and universities in this country and

:43:31. > :43:38.they think of private schools and they think of the and the culture

:43:39. > :43:43.they have. But what about those who are left behind's private school

:43:44. > :43:50.fees at the moment have reached a level where it is about ?30,000 a

:43:51. > :43:55.year. To go to full boarding school. They are out of reach for the

:43:56. > :43:57.ordinary working person and becoming out of reach even fought

:43:58. > :44:02.middle-class professionals and becoming very much the preserve of

:44:03. > :44:07.the international elite. What's the answer to this? How do we get all of

:44:08. > :44:12.our students, all of our young people from all over the country,

:44:13. > :44:16.whatever their background is, whatever the socioeconomic standing,

:44:17. > :44:20.to have the opportunity to go to institution of excellence? You know

:44:21. > :44:25.the answer. Because we have been saying it for decades, we need to

:44:26. > :44:27.have grammar schools in every town and city, every district and butter,

:44:28. > :44:37.all across this country. APPLAUSE

:44:38. > :44:44.So that everybody can have the chance to excel and shine.

:44:45. > :44:49.And Mrs May has taken on Ukip's policy, very sensible per to do

:44:50. > :44:53.that. As soon as she said that we have an army of so-called experts

:44:54. > :44:56.telling us it will be the most dreadful thing for this country to

:44:57. > :45:03.implement grammar schools. We heard this morning and in Lincolnshire

:45:04. > :45:07.Ukip is asking for extra grammar schools on behalf of parents and

:45:08. > :45:12.voters and some of the Conservative councillors are standing against it,

:45:13. > :45:16.let alone a Labour councillors and Labour politicians. When these

:45:17. > :45:21.experts and politicians talk against this policy what they say and what

:45:22. > :45:29.they do are very often to different things. So we know David Cameron can

:45:30. > :45:37.send his kids to private school, we high matron of equality, Harriet

:45:38. > :45:43.Harman, she went to private school and sends one of her children to a

:45:44. > :45:54.grammar school. Even the Shadow Foreign Secretary, Diane Abbott,

:45:55. > :45:58.BOOING it is funny saying those things in the same sentence.

:45:59. > :46:02.She can send her kids to private school. They might say they do not

:46:03. > :46:07.agree but by their actions you know they do because they want the best

:46:08. > :46:10.thing for decades and good for them. They are doing the best for the kids

:46:11. > :46:17.and I respect that what I do not respect is the hypocrisy.

:46:18. > :46:29.APPLAUSE but why should there be this hypocrisy about academic

:46:30. > :46:34.selection from those who best benefit from it? If someone is

:46:35. > :46:38.incredibly talented as an athlete or sportsman no one would object to

:46:39. > :46:42.looking out for athletic talent at the youngest of ages to have their

:46:43. > :46:47.talents developed and go on to be great sportsman will stop some of

:46:48. > :46:52.our Olympians who have done our country proud testimony to that.

:46:53. > :46:56.Would disagree with looking for musical talent, artistic talent,

:46:57. > :47:02.creative talent, those who want to be wonderful dances? Putting them in

:47:03. > :47:08.special schools for musicians, dancers, artists and so on. Many of

:47:09. > :47:13.the champagne socialist levees have benefited from that kind of

:47:14. > :47:19.education and selection. There would be happy for their ilk and friends

:47:20. > :47:23.to benefit as well. We need to make sure that we get these grammar

:47:24. > :47:28.schools implemented that we hold Theresa May to the fire and make

:47:29. > :47:34.sure that she does implement this policy. It is only Ukip that are

:47:35. > :47:38.wholeheartedly, 100% behind the best schools which are going to do the

:47:39. > :47:51.best for all of our young people, no matter where they come from. But

:47:52. > :47:57.schools are not the only part of our education system, of course. We have

:47:58. > :48:01.to consider tertiary education and universities as well. Never have

:48:02. > :48:07.there been so many people in this country going to university, thanks

:48:08. > :48:12.to Tony Blair's bizarre policy of targeting 50% of students to go to

:48:13. > :48:16.university, whether it is good for them or not. Of course, it is

:48:17. > :48:21.fantastic for some people, that never have they been so many people

:48:22. > :48:34.you leaving university with so much debt, Russell in equipped for the

:48:35. > :48:39.world of work and employment. We have a shortage of doctors and

:48:40. > :48:46.nurses in this country. It was a mad situation when we only have 7500

:48:47. > :48:51.places for medicine in British universities, but there are 82,000

:48:52. > :48:56.applicants. Many of those are not suitable. But many of them will be

:48:57. > :49:02.and are denied a place. Similarly for nursing. 20,000 places, but

:49:03. > :49:06.100,000 applicants. Tens of thousands of people who would like a

:49:07. > :49:12.career in nursing, but are not able to have one because they are not the

:49:13. > :49:20.places to train young people in this country to get the skills they need.

:49:21. > :49:24.And so we create a shortage by not planning properly. The result is

:49:25. > :49:28.that we draw the rules, bringing people with skills from other

:49:29. > :49:32.countries to work in this country when we failed to train our own

:49:33. > :49:46.young people. This is a madness which must stop! It doesn't just

:49:47. > :49:49.hurt our own young people, it hurts other countries who are losing their

:49:50. > :49:54.best and brightest people to come here. I don't blame anyone

:49:55. > :49:58.individually for taking the opportunities to come and live in

:49:59. > :50:04.Britain. It is a fantastic place to live. But we are denying people who

:50:05. > :50:07.should be staying in their own homelands to build up their own

:50:08. > :50:10.services, their own economies so that everyone can benefit from the

:50:11. > :50:23.investment is made in their young people. APPLAUSE. But some of the

:50:24. > :50:30.university courses that we have leave people less equipped and less

:50:31. > :50:37.intelligent at the age of 21 van when they went in at 18. It would be

:50:38. > :50:42.fantastic if we did have these extra places for medicine, for physics,

:50:43. > :50:47.for engineering and so on. But when we have courses such as diversity

:50:48. > :50:53.studies you wonder what people are coming out with, and if we are

:50:54. > :50:57.equipped for work. I know, one time before the referendum, I went to a

:50:58. > :51:01.college in north London to talk about our policies on the

:51:02. > :51:06.referendum. Why Brexit is a good thing. And it was time for questions

:51:07. > :51:10.afterwards. One young woman put up her hand, I thought, this is good.

:51:11. > :51:17.And she said I've been looking through your tweets. I thought, very

:51:18. > :51:26.sensible. She said I against political correctness. I said yes.

:51:27. > :51:35.And learned she said, how dare you! How do you not understand the harm

:51:36. > :51:43.of historical hetero normality. I said, well, I'm really not sure what

:51:44. > :51:48.you mean, but... I'll tell you, you know, I know what would be good for

:51:49. > :51:53.you, is that if you left your course and you go and learn how to be a

:51:54. > :51:57.mechanic. Because when you are 21 you have a skill and three years of

:51:58. > :52:11.wages and can stand on your own two feet. Good advice, I thought. But it

:52:12. > :52:24.didn't go down too well. She had to leave and go to her safe space.

:52:25. > :52:33.APPLAUSE sorry. Sorry. I didn't mean to upset her, but there you go. Our

:52:34. > :52:40.education system is overseen by a body called Ofsted. Ofsted, yes, we

:52:41. > :52:44.have a new chief of Ofsted, I think, whose straightaway came out with

:52:45. > :52:52.some of the politicians against grammar schools. The previous chief

:52:53. > :52:58.of Ofsted famous in the last couple of months was resigned after calling

:52:59. > :53:03.the idol of white and inbred white ghetto. What a dreadful thing for a

:53:04. > :53:08.chief inspector of our schools to say about one of our finest

:53:09. > :53:16.counties. If we have people like Ms overseen in our schools, something

:53:17. > :53:21.is wrong. -- like this overseeing our schools. We need a body that

:53:22. > :53:27.will stand up for traditional British values. Values like honesty,

:53:28. > :53:33.integrity, reason, respect for the rule of law, and everything that is

:53:34. > :53:38.good about this country. Not values which are called modern British

:53:39. > :53:42.values, diversity and tolerance. That is tolerant of every culture

:53:43. > :53:54.apart from our own culture will stop we need to make sure that stops. We

:53:55. > :54:02.need to make sure that we get rid of the crazy system of rating schools

:54:03. > :54:07.in terms of value added rather than real exam results. A system that

:54:08. > :54:11.will allow the best schools that get A 's and a stars to come at the

:54:12. > :54:21.bottom of the table because they don't have a value-added. Schools

:54:22. > :54:27.that come highly band the best because of this value-added system.

:54:28. > :54:31.We need a scrutinising body that will tackle the ravages of radical

:54:32. > :54:36.Islamism which is taking hold in some areas of our country and our

:54:37. > :54:48.school system. This will damage all young people in our country if it is

:54:49. > :54:54.not tackled properly. And we need a school system which will allow

:54:55. > :54:57.freedom of thought, what breed a generation of young people who

:54:58. > :55:02.cannot cope with the rigorous debate and need to go to this safe spaces

:55:03. > :55:08.like that young woman I was talking about before. We need to get rid of

:55:09. > :55:13.the strict observance to the crazy agenda of climate change which is

:55:14. > :55:21.going through our science education, our science classes. That is

:55:22. > :55:26.indoctrinating our kids. Indoctrinating our kids into loving

:55:27. > :55:31.these which are moving eco-crucifixes that we find being

:55:32. > :55:36.put up in our most beautiful places. In science people really don't

:55:37. > :55:41.understand the two principals of infrared absorption and body

:55:42. > :55:45.radiation. I'm not being racist, that is a scientific thing. It

:55:46. > :55:50.doesn't get taught, and if people did understand it they would

:55:51. > :55:53.understand that the climate change agenda is not true. It's

:55:54. > :56:05.indoctrinating people into accepting... APPLAUSE. Into

:56:06. > :56:10.accepting a pin-up and Lee of green taxes which will make us play three

:56:11. > :56:16.or four or five times as much for our energy if we simply used gas

:56:17. > :56:19.fired power stations like we always have done. That is going to hurt

:56:20. > :56:28.people coolest people in our country the most. Now, it's only Ukip will

:56:29. > :56:32.even approach these things. Other parties won't even come near to

:56:33. > :56:37.talking about many of the things I'm talking about because they're afraid

:56:38. > :56:41.of being seen to be politically incorrect. But what I'm concerned

:56:42. > :56:46.with is the truth. What I'm concerned with is that our young

:56:47. > :56:52.people have a pride in our country, and know what it is to be good

:56:53. > :56:57.British system is able to stand on their own two feet and know the

:56:58. > :57:00.truth rather than be indoctrinated into mediocrity and political

:57:01. > :57:14.correctness which has ravaged our country over the last four or five

:57:15. > :57:18.decades. It's got to stop. And Ukip, with our policies, with the most

:57:19. > :57:23.sensible policies in every area will allow us once again to build an

:57:24. > :57:28.education system which works for every young person, and an education

:57:29. > :57:31.system which will truly make Britain a great country you very much.

:57:32. > :57:57.APPLAUSE Thank you. APPLAUSE. I think you'll all agree,

:57:58. > :58:07.ladies and gentlemen, there is a man with a bright future in our party.

:58:08. > :58:13.Were going to close now 40, we've had a great session there. Just a

:58:14. > :58:18.few things I want to mention. I feel compelled, as chairman to make this

:58:19. > :58:22.point. As you'll all be aware, because you will have looked past

:58:23. > :58:28.it. We arranged a victory wall to be put up outside the Expo. And it's

:58:29. > :58:33.been a real treat, because every time I've walked past it I've seen

:58:34. > :58:38.people signing and making their mark. A recognition, post conference

:58:39. > :58:44.of the part each of us plays in bringing about British independence.

:58:45. > :58:50.But I'm frankly disgusted at the fact that somebody chose to do face

:58:51. > :58:58.that wall. Trying to scrub out names of people who they have clear

:58:59. > :59:01.personal issues with. That kind of behaviour discredits and dishonours

:59:02. > :59:09.not those people, but the whole party. And I want as oil to be very

:59:10. > :59:13.clear, as a party here, that we are going to look at the security

:59:14. > :59:18.cameras covering that room. We are going to short shrift for whoever

:59:19. > :59:35.was responsible for that. That, ladies and gentlemen, is not what we

:59:36. > :59:39.do. APPLAUSE. Now, we're going to close for a brief time for lunch,

:59:40. > :59:49.voting cards for members wishing to participate... TV! T. I'm enjoying

:59:50. > :59:55.the day so much I don't want it to end. Surely we can do lunch again?

:59:56. > :00:01.We are going to be breaking for tea. We will have motions and voting

:00:02. > :00:07.cards are available in the lobby. Go down and pick them up. I encourage

:00:08. > :00:12.everybody, I want a roomful of people here when conference closes.

:00:13. > :00:16.We'll be hearing from a representative of why I and our

:00:17. > :00:23.closing speech from our new leader, Diane James before listening to

:00:24. > :00:28.Ukip's first conference choir. Many of you have heard it rehearse

:00:29. > :00:35.already. None of you have heard it rehearsed with me involved! Enjoy

:00:36. > :00:39.the these 15 minutes. This 15 minute tea broke. If you put yourself

:00:40. > :00:44.forward as a composer, second or arguing against any of the emotions

:00:45. > :00:48.you are going to be called upon. You will be participating in this next

:00:49. > :01:26.session. Enjoy your tea. We'll see you in 20 minutes.

:01:27. > :01:44.APPLAUSE No pressure then. I just wanted to

:01:45. > :01:54.point this out. I contemplated ace-king for Elton

:01:55. > :02:04.John's song, I'm Still Standing to be played. And then I thought, I Get

:02:05. > :02:05.Knocked Down, I Get Up Again. I