Live Second Debate

:00:19. > :00:25.In just a few minutes the second US presidential debate will get under

:00:26. > :00:30.Over the past few days the campaign has been dominated by a tape

:00:31. > :00:33.which emerged showing Donald Trump speaking in lewd terms about women,

:00:34. > :00:35.sparking many in his party to retract their endorsements

:00:36. > :00:40.and even to call for him to step aside.

:00:41. > :00:44.In response Trump vows he will never step down and tonight held an event

:00:45. > :00:52.with women who have accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault.

:00:53. > :01:06.You can see the shot, the scene in St Louis, at the University where

:01:07. > :01:10.this debate will be held in just a a few minutes' time. It is a town hall

:01:11. > :01:11.format with questions from the audience.

:01:12. > :01:14.For more we can cross now to the BBC's Anthony Zurcher

:01:15. > :01:24.I can't imagine you've ever prepared to go into a presidential debate

:01:25. > :01:28.quite like the last few hours. No, this is incredibly remarkable.

:01:29. > :01:33.Donald Trump has been telegraphing since Friday night that he is going

:01:34. > :01:37.to go after Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton hard, bringing up the

:01:38. > :01:40.spectre of Bill Clinton's past accusations of sexual impropriety

:01:41. > :01:45.and that is unheard-of in a presidential debate. We will see if

:01:46. > :01:49.he goes through with it or if it is an attempt to rattle Hillary

:01:50. > :01:53.Clinton. There is dramatic footage that came out just before the

:01:54. > :01:56.debate. People were wandering in the debate hall. Bill Clinton shaking

:01:57. > :02:01.hands with millennia Trump and Donald Trump's children. They seem

:02:02. > :02:05.very cordial but I think the fireworks will happen as soon as the

:02:06. > :02:09.debate starts. OK, so, what are we expecting to come up at the

:02:10. > :02:13.beginning of the debate in terms of questions for the candidates? We

:02:14. > :02:17.have heard from the start the very first issue that's going to be

:02:18. > :02:21.raised is the issue of Donald Trump's tapes and what he said,

:02:22. > :02:26.joking about unwanted sexual advances towards women in very crass

:02:27. > :02:30.language. Now, by a coin toss Hillary Clinton will be asked about

:02:31. > :02:34.it first. So she will have the first chance to respond. That is probably

:02:35. > :02:38.good for Donald Trump. He can wait and see what Hillary Clinton will

:02:39. > :02:42.do, if she is aggressive and goes after him or lies back and he can

:02:43. > :02:47.thank out his response on what she does. For all indications Donald

:02:48. > :02:51.Trump is going to try to drag Hillary Clinton down with him. That

:02:52. > :02:55.is exactly the opposite of what the Republican establishment seems to

:02:56. > :03:01.want. I think they would rather he be contrite, apologise and focus on

:03:02. > :03:05.his economic message. For them it is high risk and low reward and could

:03:06. > :03:09.damage the brand but there is little chance Donald Trump can get back

:03:10. > :03:12.into the game. He was heading down in the polls even before this news

:03:13. > :03:16.broke on Friday. We are seeing pictures of the families of Maloney

:03:17. > :03:24.Trump, Chelsea Clinton, Bill Clinton, or -- will I have to say is

:03:25. > :03:32.they are looking stressed and tense. This is political drama and for both

:03:33. > :03:37.families it is personal drama as well and Melania has said she is not

:03:38. > :03:43.happy about those words on the tape. For Chelsea Clinton it must be a

:03:44. > :03:46.tough night as well. It has to be incredibly awkward. (CROSSTALK). I

:03:47. > :03:49.am going to interrupt you because we are going to the moderators who are

:03:50. > :03:53.introducing the second presidential debate. The second presidential

:03:54. > :03:57.debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, sponsored by the

:03:58. > :04:01.commission on presidential debate. Tonight's debate is a town hall

:04:02. > :04:04.format which gives voters a chance to ask candidates questions. Martha

:04:05. > :04:08.and I will ask follow-up questions but the night belongs to the people

:04:09. > :04:12.in this room and two people across the country who have submitted

:04:13. > :04:17.questions online. The people you see on this stage were chosen by the

:04:18. > :04:20.Gallop organisation, they are from the St Louis area and they told

:04:21. > :04:24.Gallop they haven't committed to a candidate. Each of them came here

:04:25. > :04:28.with questions they want to ask and we saw those questions for the first

:04:29. > :04:33.time this morning. Anderson and I and our team from ABC and CNN are

:04:34. > :04:36.the only ones who have seen them. Both candidates will have two

:04:37. > :04:42.minutes to answer each audience and online question. We hope to get to

:04:43. > :04:45.as many questions as we can, so we have asked the audience here not to

:04:46. > :04:51.slow things down with any applause. That is except for now. Ladies and

:04:52. > :04:56.gentlemen, the Republican nominee for president, Donald Trump, and the

:04:57. > :05:05.Democratic nominee for president, Hillary Clinton. APPLAUSE. Hello,

:05:06. > :05:26.hello, hello. Hello. APPLAUSE. Thank you very much for being here.

:05:27. > :05:30.We will begin with a question from one of the members in our town hall.

:05:31. > :05:34.Each of you will have to minutes to respond to this question. Secretary

:05:35. > :05:39.Clinton, you have the coin toss, so you can answer first. The first

:05:40. > :05:46.comes from Patrice. Thank you and good evening. The last presidential

:05:47. > :05:53.debate could have been rated as MA, mature audiences, for TV guidelines.

:05:54. > :05:57.Do you think you are modelling appropriate and positive behaviour

:05:58. > :06:04.for today's youth? Thank you. Are you a teacher? Yes, I think that is

:06:05. > :06:08.a very good question. I have heard from lots of teachers and parents

:06:09. > :06:12.about some of their concerns about some of the things that are being

:06:13. > :06:18.said and done in this campaign. And I think it is very important for us

:06:19. > :06:25.to make clear to our children that our country really is great because

:06:26. > :06:32.we are good. And we are going to respect one another, lift each other

:06:33. > :06:37.up. We are going to be looking for ways to celebrate our adversity and

:06:38. > :06:43.we are going to try to reach out to every boy and girl as well as every

:06:44. > :06:47.adult to bring them in to working on behalf of our country. I have a very

:06:48. > :06:53.positive and optimistic view about what we can do together. That's why

:06:54. > :06:57.the slogan of my campaign is "Stronger together" because if we

:06:58. > :07:01.work together and overcome the divisiveness that sometimes sets

:07:02. > :07:05.Americans against one another and instead we make some big goals, and

:07:06. > :07:11.I have set forth some big goals, getting the economy to get working

:07:12. > :07:14.for everyone, not just at the top, making sure we have the best

:07:15. > :07:18.education system from preschool through college and making it

:07:19. > :07:22.affordable, and so much else. If we set those calls and we go together

:07:23. > :07:26.to try to achieve them, there is nothing in my opinion that America

:07:27. > :07:32.can't do. So that's why I hope that we will come together in this

:07:33. > :07:36.campaign. Obviously I'm hoping to earn your vote, I am hoping to be

:07:37. > :07:41.elected in November and I can promise you I will work with every

:07:42. > :07:44.American. I want to be the president for all Americans regardless of your

:07:45. > :07:49.political beliefs, where you come from, what you look like, your

:07:50. > :07:52.religion. I want us to heal our country and bring it together

:07:53. > :07:56.because that's our think the best way for us to get the future that

:07:57. > :08:01.our children and our grandchildren deserve. Mr Trump, two minutes.

:08:02. > :08:06.Well, I actually agree with that. I agree with everything she said. I

:08:07. > :08:11.began this campaign because I was so tired of seeing such foolish things

:08:12. > :08:16.happen to our country. This is a great country, this is a great land.

:08:17. > :08:20.I have gotten to know the people of the country over the last year and a

:08:21. > :08:25.half that I've been doing this as a politician. I cannot believe that I

:08:26. > :08:28.am saying that but I guess I have been a politician. And my whole

:08:29. > :08:34.concept was make America great again. When I watch the deal is

:08:35. > :08:37.being made, when I watch what is happening with some horrible things

:08:38. > :08:43.like Obamacare, where your health-insurance and healthcare is

:08:44. > :08:48.going up by numbers that are astronomical, 68%, 59%, 71%, when I

:08:49. > :08:52.look at the Iran deal and how bad it is for us, it is a one-sided

:08:53. > :08:58.transaction where we are getting back $150 billion -- giving back

:08:59. > :09:02.$150 billion to the number one terrorist state, we have made them a

:09:03. > :09:06.strong country from a very weak country just three years ago. When I

:09:07. > :09:09.look at all of the things that I see and all of the country that the

:09:10. > :09:13.country has, such tremendous potential, whether it is in business

:09:14. > :09:18.and trade, where we are doing so badly, last year we had almost $800

:09:19. > :09:23.billion trade deficit, in other words, trading with other countries,

:09:24. > :09:28.we had an $800 billion trade deficit. That is hard to believe,

:09:29. > :09:32.inconceivable. You say who is making these deals? We will make great

:09:33. > :09:39.trade deals, we'll have a strong border, we will back law and order.

:09:40. > :09:43.Just today a policeman was shot, two were killed, happening on a weekly

:09:44. > :09:47.basis. We have to bring back respect to law enforcement. At the same time

:09:48. > :09:52.we have to take our people on all sides. We need justice. I want to do

:09:53. > :09:57.things that haven't been done, including fixing and making our in a

:09:58. > :10:01.city is better for the African American citizens that are so great,

:10:02. > :10:05.and for the Latinos, Hispanics and I look forward to doing it, it is

:10:06. > :10:09.called make America great again. Thank you, Mr Trump. The question

:10:10. > :10:14.was about are you both modelling positive and appropriate behaviour

:10:15. > :10:17.for the youth of today. We have received questions online about the

:10:18. > :10:22.tape released on Friday. You called what you said locker room banter.

:10:23. > :10:26.You described kissing women without consent and grabbing their genitals.

:10:27. > :10:30.That is sexual assault. You brag that you have sexually assaulted

:10:31. > :10:34.women. Do you understand that? I did not say that at all and I don't

:10:35. > :10:38.think you understood what I said. This was locker room talk. I am not

:10:39. > :10:44.proud of it. I apologised to my family and the American people. I am

:10:45. > :10:47.not proud of it but it is locker room talk. When you have a world

:10:48. > :10:53.where you have either stopping off heads, and frankly drowning people

:10:54. > :10:57.in the steel cages, where you have wars and horrible sights all over,

:10:58. > :11:02.so many bad things happening, this is like mediaeval times, we have

:11:03. > :11:06.seen nothing like this, the carnage all over the world -- ISIS chopping

:11:07. > :11:09.heads. They look and they see. Can you imagine the people that are

:11:10. > :11:13.frankly doing so well against us with ISIS and they look at the

:11:14. > :11:18.country and see what's going on? Yes, I and our spy it, I hate it but

:11:19. > :11:24.it is locker room talk and it is one of those things -- I despise it. I

:11:25. > :11:28.will not be hell out of ISIS. We are going to defeat ISIS. ISIS happened

:11:29. > :11:32.years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgement and I will

:11:33. > :11:37.tell you, I will take air of ISIS. Mr Trump... We can get onto much

:11:38. > :11:41.more important and much bigger things. Just for the record, are you

:11:42. > :11:45.saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago, that you did not

:11:46. > :11:49.kiss women without consent or grope women without consent? I have great

:11:50. > :11:53.respect for women. Nobody has more respect for women than I do. You say

:11:54. > :11:59.you never did that? You hear these things. I was embarrassed by it. I

:12:00. > :12:03.have tremendous respect for women. Have you ever done those things?

:12:04. > :12:08.Women have done those things for me. No, I have not. I will tell you I am

:12:09. > :12:11.going to make our country set, we will have borders in our country

:12:12. > :12:14.which we don't have now, people are pouring into the country, coming

:12:15. > :12:18.from the Middle East and other places, we are going to make America

:12:19. > :12:22.safe again, we will make it rate again but we are going to make

:12:23. > :12:25.America safe again. And we are going to make America wealthy again.

:12:26. > :12:30.Because if you don't do that it just sounds harsh to say but we have to

:12:31. > :12:33.build up the wealth of the nation. Thank you, Mr Trump. Other nations

:12:34. > :12:37.are taking our jobs and wealth and that's what I want to talk about.

:12:38. > :12:41.Secretary Clinton, do you want to respond? Well, like everyone else

:12:42. > :12:47.I've spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours about what we

:12:48. > :12:54.heard and saw. You know, with pride Republican nominees for President I

:12:55. > :12:58.disagreed with them on politics, policies, principles, but I never

:12:59. > :13:05.questioned their fitness to serve. Donald Trump is different. I said

:13:06. > :13:11.starting back in June that he was not fit to be president and the

:13:12. > :13:15.manner in chief. -- and commander in chief. Many Republicans and Happy

:13:16. > :13:20.independents has said the same thing. What we all saw and heard on

:13:21. > :13:28.Friday was Donald talking about women, what he thinks about women,

:13:29. > :13:35.what he does to women and he has said that the video doesn't

:13:36. > :13:39.represent he is but I think it is clear to anyone who heard it that it

:13:40. > :13:42.represents exactly who he is -- Independents has said the same

:13:43. > :13:46.thing. Because we've seen this throughout the campaign. We have

:13:47. > :13:54.seen him insult women, we have seen him rate women on their appearance,

:13:55. > :13:59.ranking them from one to ten, we have seen him embarrass women on TV

:14:00. > :14:05.and on Twitter, we saw him after the first debate spent nearly a week

:14:06. > :14:11.denigrating a former Miss universe in the harshest, most personal terms

:14:12. > :14:16.-- Miss Universe., so, yes, this is who Donald Trump is. But it is not

:14:17. > :14:24.only women and it is not only this video that raises questions about

:14:25. > :14:29.his fitness to be our president. He has also targeted immigrants,

:14:30. > :14:36.African-Americans, Latinos, people with disabilities, POWs, Muslims and

:14:37. > :14:40.so many others. So, this is who Donald Trump is. And the question

:14:41. > :14:47.for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who

:14:48. > :14:54.we are. That's why to go back to your question, I want to send a

:14:55. > :14:57.message - we all should - to every boy and girl and indeed to the

:14:58. > :15:04.entire world that America already is great but we are great because we

:15:05. > :15:08.are good. And we will respect one another and we will work with one

:15:09. > :15:13.another and we will celebrate our diversity. These are very important

:15:14. > :15:17.values to me, because this is the America that I know and love and I

:15:18. > :15:22.can pledge to you tonight that this is the America that I will serve if

:15:23. > :15:28.I am so fortunate enough to become your president.

:15:29. > :15:40.Am I allowed to respond to that? It is just words, folks. Words I have

:15:41. > :15:47.been hearing the many years. I heard them running for the Senate in New

:15:48. > :15:53.York, when Hillary was going to bring back jobs and she failed. When

:15:54. > :16:00.she constantly talked about the inner cities of our country, which

:16:01. > :16:06.are a disaster. In every way possible. I am going to help the

:16:07. > :16:12.African Americans, Latinos, Hispanic. I am going to help the

:16:13. > :16:16.inner cities. She has done a terrible job for the African

:16:17. > :16:23.Americans, she wants their vote and she wants to come back for years

:16:24. > :16:29.later. We saw that first-hand... Mr Trump, I want to get to audience

:16:30. > :16:36.questions... She is allowed to do that but I not allowed to respond,

:16:37. > :16:46.sounds fair. The state is generating immense interest. It has become the

:16:47. > :16:52.most what story, with millions of people watching it on social

:16:53. > :16:59.network. We want to bring in questions via social media. Jeff

:17:00. > :17:07.asks, Mr Trump says the campaign has changed him, when did that happen?

:17:08. > :17:13.Let me add to that, when you walked off that bus at age 59, were you a

:17:14. > :17:22.different man or did that behaviour continued? That was lots of room

:17:23. > :17:29.talk -- locker room. I am a person who has great respect for people,

:17:30. > :17:37.for my family, and I not proud of it. If you look at Bill Clinton, far

:17:38. > :17:42.worse. Mine are words, his work actions. There has never been

:17:43. > :17:47.anybody in the history of politics in this nation that has been so

:17:48. > :17:51.abusive to women. So you can say it anyway you want to say it but Bill

:17:52. > :17:58.Clinton was abusive to women. Hillary Clinton attacked those same

:17:59. > :18:12.women. Full of them here tonight. One of the women, at 12 years old,

:18:13. > :18:20.was braked. At 12. -- raped. She has been seen laughing at the girl who

:18:21. > :18:28.was raped. She is here tonight, Kathleen Willey, do not tell me

:18:29. > :18:37.about words. I apologised for those words. He was impeached, he lost his

:18:38. > :18:44.licence to practise law, he had to pay $150,000 fine to one of the

:18:45. > :18:48.women, Paula Jones, who is also here tonight and I will tell you that

:18:49. > :18:52.when Hillary brings up the points like that and she talks about words

:18:53. > :18:56.ACT 11 years ago, I think it is disgraceful and I think she should

:18:57. > :19:02.be ashamed of herself, if you want to know the truth.

:19:03. > :19:12.APPLAUSE. Can we please hold the applause. Let me start by saying

:19:13. > :19:16.that so much of what he has just said is not right but he gets to

:19:17. > :19:21.decide what he wants to talk about, how he runs his campaign, instead of

:19:22. > :19:28.answering questions, instead of laying out plans like we have, where

:19:29. > :19:33.we think we can make a better life and country, that is his choice.

:19:34. > :19:40.When I hear something like that, I reminded of what my friend, Michelle

:19:41. > :19:47.Obama reminded us all, when they go low, you go high. CHEERING AND

:19:48. > :19:52.APPLAUSE. Look, if this was just about one video, maybe what he is

:19:53. > :19:58.saying tonight would be understandable but everyone can draw

:19:59. > :20:04.their conclusion about whether or not the man in the video and on the

:20:05. > :20:11.stage respects women and he never apologises for anything to anyone.

:20:12. > :20:19.He never apologised to Mr and Mrs Khan, the Goldstar family whose son

:20:20. > :20:24.died in the line of duty in Iraq and, Donald insulted and attacked

:20:25. > :20:30.them for weeks over their religion. He never apologised to the

:20:31. > :20:37.distinguished federal judge who was born in Indiana but Donald said he

:20:38. > :20:43.could not be trusted to be a judge because his parents were quote

:20:44. > :20:46.Mexican. He never apologised to the reporter that he mimicked and mocked

:20:47. > :20:53.on national television and our children were watching. And he never

:20:54. > :20:59.apologised for the racist lies that President Obama was not born in the

:21:00. > :21:04.United States of America. He owes the president an apology, he owes

:21:05. > :21:11.our country an apology and he needs to take responsibility for his

:21:12. > :21:16.actions and his words. Well, you are the President an apology because, as

:21:17. > :21:21.you know very well, Sydney Bloem and fell, another real winner you have,

:21:22. > :21:27.and he's the one that got this started along with your campaign

:21:28. > :21:32.manager. Two weeks ago she was saying exactly that. You are the one

:21:33. > :21:42.that sent the pictures around with President Obama in a certain dark,

:21:43. > :21:48.long before I was around. -- garb. Michelle Obama, I got to see the

:21:49. > :21:52.commercials they did on you and I got to see some of the most vicious

:21:53. > :21:57.commercials I have ever seen about Michelle Obama talking about you,

:21:58. > :22:02.Hillary. You talk about friend? Go back and take a look at those

:22:03. > :22:09.commercials, a race you lost their and square, unlike the Bernie

:22:10. > :22:13.Sanders race which you one but not fair and square. All you have to do

:22:14. > :22:21.is take a look at WikiLeaks and what they say about Bernie Sanders.

:22:22. > :22:26.Between super delegates and others, he never had a chance. I was so

:22:27. > :22:31.price to see him sign on with the devil. But when you talk about

:22:32. > :22:36.apology, I think the thing you should be apologising for other

:22:37. > :22:42.33,000 e-mails that you deleted and that you acid washed and the two

:22:43. > :22:48.boxes of e-mails and other things, last week, taken from an office and

:22:49. > :22:54.now missing. I tell you what, I did not think I would say this but I am

:22:55. > :22:59.going to say this and I hate to say it but if I win, I going to instruct

:23:00. > :23:03.my Attorney General to get a special prosecutor to look into your

:23:04. > :23:12.situation because there has never been so many lies, so much

:23:13. > :23:17.deception, and we are going to have a special prosecutor. When I speak,

:23:18. > :23:23.I go out to speak to people in this country and they are furious stop

:23:24. > :23:31.the people in the FBI are furious. You get a subpoena and after getting

:23:32. > :23:39.the subpoena, you deleted 33,000 e-mails and then you acid wash them

:23:40. > :23:43.or bleach them. A very expensive process. We are going to get

:23:44. > :23:49.prosecuted and look at it because, you know what, people's lives have

:23:50. > :23:58.been destroyed by being one of these of... Everything he just said is

:23:59. > :24:06.absolutely false but I not surprised. ... The audience needs to

:24:07. > :24:12.calm down here. It would be impossible to check fact Donald all

:24:13. > :24:16.the time because I would not have the time to talk about how we are

:24:17. > :24:26.going to make life better. Go to Hillary Clinton .com and fact check

:24:27. > :24:30.him in real time. Last time, in the last debate, we had millions of

:24:31. > :24:35.people doing it and I expect we will have millions more. It is just

:24:36. > :24:40.awfully good that someone with the temperamental of Donald Trump is not

:24:41. > :24:48.in charge of the law in our country. Because you would be in jail.

:24:49. > :24:52.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. We want to remind the audience to please not

:24:53. > :24:59.talk out loud and please do not applaud. You are just wasting time.

:25:00. > :25:07.You said your handling of your e-mails was a mistake. The FBI

:25:08. > :25:14.called your handling extremely careless. There were e-mails

:25:15. > :25:20.exchanged, eight of which were top secret and that it was possible

:25:21. > :25:29.actors did get access to them. You did not call that careless? That was

:25:30. > :25:32.a mistake, I said it before and I will repeat it. They take

:25:33. > :25:38.responsibility for using a personal e-mail account. Obviously, if I was

:25:39. > :25:43.to do it over again, I would not. I am not making any excuses stop it

:25:44. > :25:49.was a mistake and I very sorry about that. It is important to point out

:25:50. > :25:54.where there are some misleading accusations from critics and others.

:25:55. > :26:00.After a year-long investigation, there is no evidence that anyone

:26:01. > :26:07.hacked the server I was using and there is no evidence that anyone can

:26:08. > :26:15.point to, at all, anyone that says otherwise has no basis, that any

:26:16. > :26:19.pacified material handed up in the wrong hands. I take classified

:26:20. > :26:24.material very seriously, I was really to a lot of classified

:26:25. > :26:28.material and obviously, as Secretary of State, I had some of the most

:26:29. > :26:36.important secrets that we possess, such as going after Bin Laden, so I

:26:37. > :26:41.very committed to taking classified information seriously and, as I

:26:42. > :26:47.said, there is no evidence that classified information ended up in

:26:48. > :26:54.the wrong hands. And yet, she did not know the word, the letter C, she

:26:55. > :27:00.did not know what that letter meant. It is amazing, I watching Hillary

:27:01. > :27:06.going over fact and she is lying again because she said... You know,

:27:07. > :27:10.what she did with the e-mails was fine, you think it was fine to

:27:11. > :27:18.delete 33,000 e-mails. She said it had to do with her daughters

:27:19. > :27:22.weddings and a yoga class. 33,000 in lost deleted and now she is saying

:27:23. > :27:28.there was nothing wrong. That was after getting a subpoena. That was

:27:29. > :27:33.after. She got it from the United States Congress and I'll be honest,

:27:34. > :27:39.I disappointed in Congressmen, including Republicans, to allow this

:27:40. > :27:44.to happen. Our justice department where her husband talks to the

:27:45. > :27:49.Attorney General days before a ruling is made in her case but for

:27:50. > :27:54.you to say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting 39,000

:27:55. > :27:59.e-mails, again, you should be ashamed of yourself and this is

:28:00. > :28:05.after getting a subpoena from the United States Congress and... We

:28:06. > :28:11.have to move on. We want to give the audience a chance. ... Let alone

:28:12. > :28:19.after getting the subpoena... Look, it is just not true and so,

:28:20. > :28:28.please... Allow her to respond. 33,000? We turned over 35,000.

:28:29. > :28:35.Police, allow the two respond, she did not talked when you talked.

:28:36. > :28:39.Because you had nothing to say. I would like to get to the questions

:28:40. > :28:47.that people brought here tonight to talk about... And get off this

:28:48. > :28:53.question. OK, I know you are into big divergent tonight anything apart

:28:54. > :29:00.from talking about the way your campaign is exploding... (CROSSTALK)

:29:01. > :29:07.I want to talk about... We have a question about healthcare. As a

:29:08. > :29:15.lawyer, while you not bringing up the e-mails... We did. Now you have

:29:16. > :29:23.not. Nice, one against three. Thank you. Obamacare, it is not

:29:24. > :29:29.affordable. Premiums have gone up, deductibles have gone up,

:29:30. > :29:34.prescriptions have gone up and the coverage has gone down. What would

:29:35. > :29:39.you do to bring the cost down and make coverage better?

:29:40. > :29:44.That goes to Secretary Clinton because you started out with the

:29:45. > :29:50.last one to the audience. He wants to start this one. Go ahead. No, I

:29:51. > :29:55.am a gentleman. Go ahead. LAUGHTER. I think Donald was about to say he

:29:56. > :29:59.will solve it by repealing it and getting rid of the Affordable Care

:30:00. > :30:05.Act. I am going to fix it. I agree with you. Premiums have gotten too

:30:06. > :30:10.high, deductibles, prescription drug costs and I have laid out actions I

:30:11. > :30:14.can take to get them down. Here is what I don't want people to forget

:30:15. > :30:17.when we are talking about reining in the cost, which has to be the

:30:18. > :30:23.highest priority of the next president. When the Affordable Care

:30:24. > :30:26.Act passed it wasn't just that 20 million people got insurers who

:30:27. > :30:30.didn't have it before but that in and of itself was a good thing. I

:30:31. > :30:34.meet these people all the time and they tell me what a difference they

:30:35. > :30:38.said having that insurance meant to them and their families. But

:30:39. > :30:44.everybody else, the 170 million of us who get health insurance through

:30:45. > :30:48.our employers got big benefits. Number one on a insurance companies

:30:49. > :30:54.can't deny you coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Number two,

:30:55. > :30:57.no lifetime limits -- number one, no insurance companies. That is a big

:30:58. > :31:01.deal if you have serious health problems. Number three, women can't

:31:02. > :31:04.be charged more than men for health insurance, which is the way it was

:31:05. > :31:08.before the Affordable Care Act. Number four, if you are under 26 and

:31:09. > :31:12.your parents have a policy my you can be on that policy until the age

:31:13. > :31:20.of 26, something that didn't happen before. So I want very much to save

:31:21. > :31:24.what works and is good about the Affordable Care Act but we've got to

:31:25. > :31:28.get costs down, we've got to provide sunny additional help to small

:31:29. > :31:31.businesses so that they can afford to provide health insurance -- some

:31:32. > :31:37.additional. If we repeal it, as Donald has proposed, and start over

:31:38. > :31:41.again, all of those benefits I just mentioned are lost to everybody, not

:31:42. > :31:45.just people who get their health insurance on the exchange. And then

:31:46. > :31:49.we would have to start all over again. Right now we are at 90%

:31:50. > :31:53.health insurance coverage. That is the highest we have ever been in our

:31:54. > :31:58.country. Secretary Clinton your time is up. I want to get to 100% but get

:31:59. > :32:02.down the cost and keep up the quality. Mr Trump, two minutes. It

:32:03. > :32:08.is such a great question and maybe the question I get almost more than

:32:09. > :32:12.anything else, outside of defence. Obamacare is a disaster. You know

:32:13. > :32:17.it, we all know it. It is going up at numbers that nobody has ever seen

:32:18. > :32:22.worldwide. Nobody has ever seen numbers like is for healthcare. It

:32:23. > :32:28.is only getting worse. It employs by itself. Their method is to ask

:32:29. > :32:32.Congress for more money. More money! We have right now almost $20

:32:33. > :32:40.trillion in debt. Obamacare will never work. It is very bad, very bad

:32:41. > :32:43.health insurance. It is far too expensive and not only for the

:32:44. > :32:48.person who has it but unbelievably expensive for the country. One of

:32:49. > :32:55.the biggest line items very shortly. We have to repeal it and replace it

:32:56. > :33:00.with something absolutely much less expensive and something that works.

:33:01. > :33:04.Your plan can actually be tailored. We have to get rid of the lines

:33:05. > :33:08.around the state, artificial lines, where we stop insurance companies

:33:09. > :33:12.from coming in and competing. Because they wanted, President Obama

:33:13. > :33:15.and whoever was working on it, they want to leave those lines because it

:33:16. > :33:19.gives the insurance companies essentially monopolies. We want

:33:20. > :33:24.competition. You will have the finest health-care plan there is.

:33:25. > :33:31.She wants to go to a single pay a plan which would be a disaster.

:33:32. > :33:38.Someone similar to Canada. When they want a bigger come to the US in many

:33:39. > :33:42.cases. Their system is so slow its catastrophic in certain ways. She

:33:43. > :33:46.wants to go to single payer which means the government basically rules

:33:47. > :33:52.everything. Hillary Clinton has been after this for years. Obamacare was

:33:53. > :33:56.the first step. Obamacare is a total disaster. And not only are your

:33:57. > :34:01.rates going up by numbers no one has ever believed, but you are -- your

:34:02. > :34:05.deductibles are going up so that unless you are hit by a truck you

:34:06. > :34:09.are never going to be able to use it. It is a disastrous plan and it

:34:10. > :34:12.has to be repealed and replaced. Secretary Clinton, let me follow up

:34:13. > :34:20.with you. Your husband called Obamacare the craziest thing in the

:34:21. > :34:24.world saying business owners costs were doubling. Was he mistaken or

:34:25. > :34:28.telling the truth? He clarified what he meant and it is very clear. We

:34:29. > :34:32.are in a situation in our country where if we were to start all over

:34:33. > :34:35.again we might come up with a different system. But we have an

:34:36. > :34:39.employer -based system. That is where the vast majority of people

:34:40. > :34:43.get their healthcare. And the Affordable Care Act was meant to try

:34:44. > :34:49.to fill the gap between people who were too poor and couldn't put

:34:50. > :34:52.together any resources to afford healthcare, namely people on

:34:53. > :34:57.Medicaid, obviously Medicare which was a single payer system which

:34:58. > :35:01.takes care of our elderly and does a great job doing it, by the way. And

:35:02. > :35:05.then all the people who were employed by people who were working

:35:06. > :35:09.but didn't have the money to afford insurance and didn't have any body,

:35:10. > :35:14.an employer or anybody else, to help them. That was the slot that the

:35:15. > :35:20.Obamacare approach was to take. And like I say, 20 million people now

:35:21. > :35:24.have health insurance. So if we just rip it up and throw it away what

:35:25. > :35:28.Donald isn't telling you is we turn it back to the insurance companies

:35:29. > :35:31.the way it used to be. That means insurance companies get to do

:35:32. > :35:36.whatever they want, including saying, sorry, you have diabetes,

:35:37. > :35:40.you have asthma, your child has asthma, you might not be able to

:35:41. > :35:44.have insurance because it can't afford. So, let's fix what's broken

:35:45. > :35:48.about it but let's not throw it away and give it all back to the

:35:49. > :35:52.insurance companies. Let me follow up with you, Mr Trump. Just one

:35:53. > :35:57.thing, first of all, everything is broken about it. Bernie Sanders said

:35:58. > :36:03.Hillary Clinton has very bad judgement. This is a perfect example

:36:04. > :36:07.of it. Trying to save Obamacare... You have said you want to end

:36:08. > :36:10.Obamacare and you said you want to make coverage accessible for people

:36:11. > :36:14.with pre-existing conditions. How can you force insurance companies to

:36:15. > :36:19.do that if you don't mandate... You are going to have plans. What does

:36:20. > :36:23.that mean? You will have plans that are so good. We are going to have so

:36:24. > :36:28.much competition in the insurance industry once we break out the lines

:36:29. > :36:33.and allow competition to come. President Obama... We have a

:36:34. > :36:38.mandate...? President Obama, by keeping those lines, the boundary

:36:39. > :36:42.lines around each state, and it was almost gone until just towards the

:36:43. > :36:48.end of the passage of Obamacare... Which, by the way, was a fraud, and

:36:49. > :36:52.you know that. Because Jonathan Gruber, the architect of Obamacare,

:36:53. > :36:55.he said it was a great light, it was a big lie. President Obama said you

:36:56. > :36:59.keep your plan. The whole thing was a fraud and it doesn't work. When we

:37:00. > :37:03.get rid of those lines you have competition and we will be able to

:37:04. > :37:06.keep pre-existing. We will also be able to help people that can't get

:37:07. > :37:12.and don't have money... Because we will have something that keeps

:37:13. > :37:15.people protected and we believe this strongly. We are going to block

:37:16. > :37:20.grant into the states, we are going to block grant into Medicaid into

:37:21. > :37:23.the safe so that we will be able to take their people without the

:37:24. > :37:28.necessary funds to take air of themselves. Thank you, Mr Trump. Now

:37:29. > :37:35.we have a question for both candidates. There are 3.3 million

:37:36. > :37:38.Muslims in the United States and I am one of them. You have mentioned

:37:39. > :37:42.working with Muslim nations. With Islamophobia on the rise, how will

:37:43. > :37:46.you help people like me to deal with the consequences of being labelled

:37:47. > :37:51.as a threat to the country after the election is over? Mr Trump, your

:37:52. > :37:55.first. Well, you're right about Islamophobia and that's a shame --

:37:56. > :37:59.you're first. But one thing we have to do is we have to make sure

:38:00. > :38:04.that... Because there is a problem. Whether we like it or not, we can be

:38:05. > :38:08.very politically correct but whether we like it or not there is a

:38:09. > :38:12.problem. And we have to be sure that Muslims come in and report when they

:38:13. > :38:17.see something going in, when they see hatred going on they have to

:38:18. > :38:21.report it. As an example, in San Bernardino. Many people saw the

:38:22. > :38:25.bombs all over the apartment of the two people who killed 14 and wounded

:38:26. > :38:29.many people, horribly wounded - they won't be the same. Muslims have to

:38:30. > :38:36.report the problems when they see them. And, you know, there is always

:38:37. > :38:40.a reason for everything. If they don't do that it is a very difficult

:38:41. > :38:45.situation for our country because you look at Orlando, and you look at

:38:46. > :38:48.San Bernardino and you look at the World Trade Center, go outside and

:38:49. > :38:52.look at Paris, look at that horrible... These are radical

:38:53. > :38:56.Islamic terrorists and she won't even mention the word and nor will

:38:57. > :39:02.President Obama. He won't use the term radical Islamic terrorism. Now,

:39:03. > :39:06.to solve a problem you have to be able to state what the problem is or

:39:07. > :39:10.at least save the name. She won't say the name and President Obama

:39:11. > :39:15.won't say the name. The name is fair. It is radical Islamic terror.

:39:16. > :39:20.And before you solve it, you have to say the name -- the name is there.

:39:21. > :39:24.Secretary Clinton. Well, thank you for asking your question, and I have

:39:25. > :39:30.heard this question from a lot of Muslim Americans across the country.

:39:31. > :39:40.Unfortunately, there has been a lot of very divisive, dark things said

:39:41. > :39:44.about Muslims and even someone like Captain Con, the man who sacrificed

:39:45. > :39:50.himself defending our country in the United States army has been subject

:39:51. > :39:54.to a attack from Donald -- Khan. First, we have had Muslims in

:39:55. > :39:59.America's installed Washington. We've had many successful Muslims.

:40:00. > :40:05.We've just lost a particular well-known one with Muhammad Ali. My

:40:06. > :40:11.vision of America is an America where everyone has a place if you

:40:12. > :40:16.are willing to work hard, you do your part, you contribute to the

:40:17. > :40:20.community, that is what America is, that is what we want America to be

:40:21. > :40:24.for our children at our grandchildren. It is also very

:40:25. > :40:30.shortsighted and even dangerous to be engaging with the kind of

:40:31. > :40:34.demagogic rhetoric Donald Trump has with Muslims. We need American

:40:35. > :40:37.Muslims to be part of our eyes and ears on our frontlines. I have

:40:38. > :40:42.worked with a lot of different Muslim groups around America. I have

:40:43. > :40:45.met with a lot of them and I have heard how important it is for them

:40:46. > :40:50.to feel that they are wanted and included and part of our country,

:40:51. > :40:54.part of our Homeland Security, and that is what I want to see. It is

:40:55. > :41:00.also important i.e. Intent to defeat ISIS. To do so in a coalition with

:41:01. > :41:04.majority Muslim nations. Right now and a lot of those nations are

:41:05. > :41:09.hearing what Donald says and wondering, why should we co-operate

:41:10. > :41:14.with the Americans? This is a gift to ISIS and the terrorists. Violent

:41:15. > :41:20.jihadist terrorists. We are not at war with Islam. It is a mistake and

:41:21. > :41:25.it plays into the hands of the terrorists to act as though we are.

:41:26. > :41:30.So I want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as

:41:31. > :41:34.welcome as anyone else. Thank you, Secretary Clinton. Mr Trump, in

:41:35. > :41:39.December you said this, Donald Trump is calling for a total and complete

:41:40. > :41:42.shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until the country's

:41:43. > :41:47.representatives can figure loud what the hell is going on. We have no

:41:48. > :41:51.choice we have no choice. -- figure out what the hell is going on.

:41:52. > :41:55.You're running mate said this week that the Muslim ban is no longer

:41:56. > :42:00.your position. Is that correct? If it is, will is it a mistake to have

:42:01. > :42:07.a religious test? Captain Khan is an American hero and if I was president

:42:08. > :42:10.at the time he would be alive today because unlike her, who voted for

:42:11. > :42:16.the war without knowing what she was doing, I would not have had our

:42:17. > :42:22.people in Iraq. Iraq was a disaster. So he would have been alive today.

:42:23. > :42:29.The Muslim ban is something that in some form has morphed extreme

:42:30. > :42:36.vetting from certain areas of the world. Why did it morph into that?

:42:37. > :42:44.Answer the question. Do you still believe... Would you still explain

:42:45. > :42:49.whether or not the Muslim ban still stands? It is called extreme

:42:50. > :42:53.vetting. We are going to areas like Syria, where they are coming in by

:42:54. > :43:00.the tens of thousands because of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton

:43:01. > :43:06.wants to allow a 550% increase over Obama. People are coming into our

:43:07. > :43:12.country like we have no idea who they are, where they are from, what

:43:13. > :43:17.their feelings about our country is, and she wants 550% more. This will

:43:18. > :43:21.be the Trojan Horse of all time. We have enough robins in this country

:43:22. > :43:28.and I believe in having other people pay for this who are not carrying

:43:29. > :43:32.their weight because they don't have enough money and take care of people

:43:33. > :43:36.but I don't want to have, with all the problems this country has an all

:43:37. > :43:39.the problems that you see going on hundreds of thousands of people

:43:40. > :43:43.coming in from Syria when we know nothing about them, we know nothing

:43:44. > :43:46.about their values and we know nothing about their love for our

:43:47. > :43:54.country. And Secretary Clinton, let me ask you about that, because you

:43:55. > :44:01.have asked for an increase from 10,000 to 65,000 refugees. We know

:44:02. > :44:05.you want tougher vetting. That is not a perfect system, so why risk

:44:06. > :44:09.having them come into the country? I will not let anyone come into the

:44:10. > :44:13.country that I think will pose a risk to us but there are a lot of

:44:14. > :44:17.refugees. Women and children. Think of that picture we saw of the

:44:18. > :44:21.four-year-old boy with the blood on his forehead because he had been

:44:22. > :44:31.bombed by the Russian and Syrian air forces. There are children suffering

:44:32. > :44:35.in this catastrophic war largely I believe because of Russian

:44:36. > :44:41.aggression and we need to do our part, we by no means are carrying

:44:42. > :44:46.anywhere near the low that Europe and others are. But we will have

:44:47. > :44:51.vetting that is as tough as it needs to be from our professionals, our

:44:52. > :45:00.intelligence experts and others. But it is important for us as a policy

:45:01. > :45:06.not to say, as Donald has said, we are going to ban people based on a

:45:07. > :45:12.religion. Do that?! We are a country founded on religious freedom and

:45:13. > :45:16.liberty -- How do you do that?! How do you do what he has advocated

:45:17. > :45:20.without causing great distress within our own country - are we

:45:21. > :45:26.going to have a religious test when people fly into our country? And how

:45:27. > :45:41.do we expect to be able to implement those? Indeed, you can look at the

:45:42. > :45:45.propaganda on a lot of the terrorist sites and what Donald Trump says

:45:46. > :45:52.about Muslims is used to recruit fighters. Because they want to

:45:53. > :45:57.create a war between us. And the final thing I will say, this is the

:45:58. > :46:02.10th the time that he has denied being for the in Iraq, we have it on

:46:03. > :46:06.tape, the entire press corps has looked at it. It has been debunked

:46:07. > :46:10.but it never stops him from saying whatever he wants to say. Has not

:46:11. > :46:16.been debunked, has not been debunked. GOTO Hillary Clinton .com

:46:17. > :46:21.and you can see it. I was against the war on Iraq, it has not been

:46:22. > :46:26.debunked. There has been lots of fact checking on that. She just went

:46:27. > :46:32.about 25 seconds over her time. Can I just respond to this please? Very

:46:33. > :46:36.quickly, please. Hillary Clinton, in terms of people coming into our

:46:37. > :46:40.country, we have many criminal illegal aliens, when we want to send

:46:41. > :46:44.them back to their country, their countries as we don't want them, in

:46:45. > :46:47.some cases they are murderers, drug lords, drug problems, and we don't

:46:48. > :46:51.want them. And Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State set we

:46:52. > :46:55.can't force them back into the country. Let me tell you, I'm going

:46:56. > :46:59.to force them back into the country. They are murderers and some very bad

:47:00. > :47:02.people and I will tell you very strongly, when Bernie Sanders said

:47:03. > :47:05.she had bad judgement, she has very bad judgement. We are letting people

:47:06. > :47:09.into this country that are going to cause problems and crime like you

:47:10. > :47:13.have never seen. We are also leading drugs poor through our southern

:47:14. > :47:21.border at a record clip, at a record clip. And it shouldn't be allowed to

:47:22. > :47:25.happen. I was just endorsed, by the border patrol agents, 16,500

:47:26. > :47:29.recently endorsed me and they endorsed me because I understand the

:47:30. > :47:33.border. She doesn't. She wants amnesty for everybody. Come right

:47:34. > :47:37.in, come right over. It is a horrible thing she is doing. She's

:47:38. > :47:41.got bad judgement, and honestly so bad that she should never be

:47:42. > :47:46.president of the United States. That I can tell you. Thank you Mr Trump,

:47:47. > :47:50.I want to move on. This next question comes from the public

:47:51. > :47:53.through the bipartisan open debate Coalition's online forum where

:47:54. > :47:58.Americans submitted questions which generated millions of votes. This

:47:59. > :48:01.question involves WikiLeaks's release of purported excerpts of

:48:02. > :48:09.Secretary Clinton's paid speeches which she has refused to release,

:48:10. > :48:18.and one light in which she reportedly said... Two from Virginia

:48:19. > :48:24.asked is it OK for politicians to be 2-faced, is it acceptable for a

:48:25. > :48:30.politician to have a private stance on issues? Secretary Clinton, your

:48:31. > :48:35.two minutes. Well, as I recall, that was something I set about Abraham

:48:36. > :48:41.Lincoln after having seen the wonderful Stephen Spielberg movie

:48:42. > :48:45.called Lincoln. It was a masterclass, watching President

:48:46. > :48:51.Lincoln get the Congress to approve the 13th Amendment. It was

:48:52. > :48:57.principled, and it was strategic. And I was making the point that it

:48:58. > :49:02.is hard sometimes to get the Congress to do what you want to do.

:49:03. > :49:07.And you have to keep working at it. And yes, President Lincoln was

:49:08. > :49:10.trying to convince some people. He used some arguments, convincing

:49:11. > :49:14.other people he used other arguments. That was a great... I

:49:15. > :49:19.thought a great display of presidential leadership. But let's

:49:20. > :49:24.talk about what is really going on here, Martha. Because our

:49:25. > :49:29.intelligence community just came out and said in the last few days that

:49:30. > :49:37.the Kremlin, meaning but in and the Russian government, are directing

:49:38. > :49:42.the attacks, the hacking, on American accounts, to influence our

:49:43. > :49:47.election. And WikiLeaks is part of that, as are other sites where the

:49:48. > :49:50.Russians Hack information. We don't even know if it's accurate

:49:51. > :49:56.information, and then they put it out. We have never, in the history

:49:57. > :50:03.of our country, thin in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power,

:50:04. > :50:08.is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election. And believe

:50:09. > :50:11.me, they are not doing it to get me elected. They are doing it to try

:50:12. > :50:16.and influence the election for Donald Trump. Now, maybe because he

:50:17. > :50:20.has praised Putin, maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what

:50:21. > :50:24.Putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow, I

:50:25. > :50:28.don't know the reasons. What we deserve answers and we should demand

:50:29. > :50:32.that Donald release all of his tax returns so that people can see what

:50:33. > :50:36.are the entanglements and the financial relationships... And we

:50:37. > :50:42.are going to get to that letter. Secretary Clinton, you are out of

:50:43. > :50:46.time. I am going to respond, because it is so ridiculous. Look, now she

:50:47. > :50:50.is blaming... She got caught in a total lie. Her papers went out to

:50:51. > :50:56.all her friends in the banks, Golden Sacks and everything else, and she

:50:57. > :51:01.says things, and WikiLeaks just came out, and she lied. -- Goldman Sachs.

:51:02. > :51:09.And she is blaming the Lie on the late, great, Abraham Lincoln. Honest

:51:10. > :51:12.Abe never lied. That is a big difference between Abraham Lincoln

:51:13. > :51:15.and you. That is a big difference, we are talking about some

:51:16. > :51:19.difference. But as far as other elements of what she was saying, I

:51:20. > :51:23.don't know Putin. I think it would be great if we go along with Russia,

:51:24. > :51:27.because we could fight ISIS together, as an example. But I don't

:51:28. > :51:31.love Putin. But I notice any time anything wrong happened they like to

:51:32. > :51:34.say the Russians... She doesn't know if it is the Russians doing the

:51:35. > :51:38.hacking. Maybe there is no hacking, but they always blame Russia. And

:51:39. > :51:42.the reason they blame Russia is they think they are trying to tarnish me

:51:43. > :51:45.with Russia. I know nothing about Russia. I know about Russia, but I

:51:46. > :51:48.know nothing about the inner workings of Russia. I don't deal

:51:49. > :51:52.there, they have no businesses that have loans from Russia, have a very

:51:53. > :51:55.great balance sheet, so great that when I did the old Post Office on

:51:56. > :51:59.Pennsylvania Avenue to the United led government because of my balance

:52:00. > :52:02.sheet, which they actually know very well, chose me to do the old Post

:52:03. > :52:07.Office between the White House and Congress. Chose me to do the old

:52:08. > :52:12.Post Office. One of the primary things, in fact perhaps primary

:52:13. > :52:16.thing, was balance sheet. But I have no loans with Russia. You could go

:52:17. > :52:20.to the United States government and they would probably tell you that

:52:21. > :52:23.because they know my sheet very well in order to get that development.

:52:24. > :52:27.Now, the taxes are a very simple thing. As soon as I have... First of

:52:28. > :52:30.all, I pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. Many of her

:52:31. > :52:36.friends took bigger deductions. Warren Buffett took a massive

:52:37. > :52:40.deduction. Saul Rose took a massive deduction. Many of the people that

:52:41. > :52:43.are giving her all this money that she can do many more commercial than

:52:44. > :52:48.me, gave her... Took massive deductions. I pay hundreds of

:52:49. > :52:52.millions of dollars in taxes, but as soon as my routine audit is

:52:53. > :52:57.finished, I will release my returns. I will be very proud to. Turning to

:52:58. > :53:05.the topic of taxes, we have a question from Spencer Moss. Spencer?

:53:06. > :53:09.Good evening. My question is, what specific tax provisions will you

:53:10. > :53:15.change to make sure the wealthiest Americans pay their fair share in

:53:16. > :53:18.taxes? Well, one thing I would do is get rid of carried interest. One of

:53:19. > :53:23.the greatest provisions, for people like me, to be honest with you, I

:53:24. > :53:27.give up a lot when I run because I knock out the tax code. And she

:53:28. > :53:30.could have done this years ago. She was United States senator. She

:53:31. > :53:35.complains that Donald Trump took advantage of the tax code. Well, why

:53:36. > :53:39.didn't she change? Why didn't you change it when you were a senator?

:53:40. > :53:42.The reason you didn't is that all your friends take the same advantage

:53:43. > :53:45.that I do. And I do. We have provisions in the tax code that

:53:46. > :53:49.frankly you would change, but you wouldn't change it because all these

:53:50. > :53:53.people give you the money so that you can take negative ads on Donald

:53:54. > :53:56.Trump. And I say that about a lot of things. I have heard Hilary

:53:57. > :54:00.complaining about so many different things over the years, but she has

:54:01. > :54:04.been here. For 30 years she has been doing this much your Mac stuff. She

:54:05. > :54:08.never changed and she never will change. We are getting rid of

:54:09. > :54:11.carried interest provisions, I am lowering taxes, actually, because I

:54:12. > :54:13.think it is so important for corporations, because we have

:54:14. > :54:17.corporations leaving, massive corporations and little ones. The

:54:18. > :54:20.ones can't form. We are getting rid of regulations which goes

:54:21. > :54:24.hand-in-hand with the lowering of taxes but we are bringing taxes down

:54:25. > :54:28.from 35% to 15%. We are cutting taxes for the middle class, and I

:54:29. > :54:32.will tell you, we are cutting them big league for the middle class. And

:54:33. > :54:37.I will tell you, Hillary Clinton is raising your taxes, if you look at

:54:38. > :54:41.me, she is raising taxes high. And what that is going to do is a

:54:42. > :54:45.disaster for the country. But she is raising the taxes and I am lowering

:54:46. > :54:49.your taxes. That in itself is a big difference. We are going to be

:54:50. > :54:55.thriving again. We have no growth in this country. There is no growth. If

:54:56. > :55:00.China has a GDP of 7%, it is like a national catastrophe. We are down on

:55:01. > :55:05.1%. And that is like... No growth. And we are going lower, in my

:55:06. > :55:08.opinion. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that our taxes are so

:55:09. > :55:13.high. Just about the highest in the world. And I am bringing them down

:55:14. > :55:17.to one of the lower in the world. And I think it is so important, one

:55:18. > :55:20.of the most important things we can do. But she is raising of a body's

:55:21. > :55:24.taxes massively. Secretary Clinton, you have to make minutes. The

:55:25. > :55:28.question was what specific taxes would you change to make sure all

:55:29. > :55:32.Americans pay their fair share? Well, everything you have heard from

:55:33. > :55:36.Donald is not true. I'm sorry I have to keep saying this, but he lives in

:55:37. > :55:40.an alternative reality. And it is sort of amusing to hear somebody who

:55:41. > :55:44.hasn't paid federal than maybe 20 years talking about what he is going

:55:45. > :55:49.to do, but I will tell you what he is going to do. His plan will give

:55:50. > :55:53.the wealthy and corporations the biggest tax cuts they have ever had.

:55:54. > :55:58.More than the Bush tax cuts by at least a factor of two. Donald always

:55:59. > :56:03.takes care of Donald and people like Donald. And this would be a massive

:56:04. > :56:08.gift. And indeed, the way that he talks about his tax cuts would end

:56:09. > :56:13.up raising taxes on middle-class families, millions of middle-class

:56:14. > :56:18.families. Now, here is what I want to do. I have said nobody who makes

:56:19. > :56:22.less than $250,000 a year, and that is the vast majority of Americans,

:56:23. > :56:26.as you know, we'll have their taxes raised. Because I think we have got

:56:27. > :56:29.to know your Mac go whether money is on the money is with people who have

:56:30. > :56:34.taken advantage of every single break in the code. And yes, when I

:56:35. > :56:38.was a senator, I did vote to close corporate loopholes. I voted to

:56:39. > :56:42.close, I think, one of the loopholes he took advantage of when he claimed

:56:43. > :56:48.a $1 billion loss which enabled him to avoid paying taxes. I want to

:56:49. > :56:52.avoid attacks on people who are making -- I want to have a tax on

:56:53. > :56:57.people who are making 1 billion dollars. Warren Buffett has said

:56:58. > :57:00.that someone like him should not be paying a lower tax rate than his

:57:01. > :57:04.secretary. I want to have a surcharge on incomes above $5

:57:05. > :57:09.million. We want to make up for tough times because I want to invest

:57:10. > :57:12.in you, I want to invest and hard-working families and I think it

:57:13. > :57:15.has been unfortunate that it has happened that since the great

:57:16. > :57:19.recession, the gains have all gone to the top. And we need to reverse

:57:20. > :57:24.that. People like Donald, who paid zero in taxes, 04 hour our flats,

:57:25. > :57:29.zero for our military, zero for health and education, that is wrong.

:57:30. > :57:33.And we are going to make sure that no corporation and no individual can

:57:34. > :57:44.get away without paying his fair share. -- zero for our vets. I want

:57:45. > :57:52.to talk about what she is referring to, last month the taxes were the

:57:53. > :57:56.biggest issue in the election, your tax three pages from your taxes were

:57:57. > :58:00.released by the New York Times, which showed that you made a loss of

:58:01. > :58:04.$1 billion and could have avoided paying taxes for years. You have not

:58:05. > :58:09.answer the simple question, did you use that $900 million loss to avoid

:58:10. > :58:14.paying federal taxes. Of course I do, and so do most of her donors. I

:58:15. > :58:18.know many of her donors. Her donors took massive tax write-offs. A lot

:58:19. > :58:22.of my right off was depreciation, and other things that Hillary as a

:58:23. > :58:26.senator allowed. And she will always allow it, because the people who

:58:27. > :58:29.give all this money, they want it. That is why. I understand the tax

:58:30. > :58:33.code better than anybody who's ever run for president. Hillary

:58:34. > :58:36.Clinton... And it's extremely complex. Hillary Clinton has friends

:58:37. > :58:40.who want all of these provisions, including they want to carried

:58:41. > :58:43.interest provision, which is very important to Wall Street people but

:58:44. > :58:47.they really want the carried interest revision, which I think

:58:48. > :58:51.Hillary is leaving. Very interesting why she is leaving carried interest.

:58:52. > :58:56.But I will tell you that number one I pay tremendous numbers of taxes. I

:58:57. > :59:04.absolutely use it, and so did Warren Buffett, and so did George Soros,

:59:05. > :59:07.and so did many other people that Hillary is getting money from. I

:59:08. > :59:11.won't mention their names, because they are rich but not famous. Can

:59:12. > :59:16.you say how many years you have avoided paying federal income taxes?

:59:17. > :59:21.No, but I pay tax and they pay federal tax as well. I have a right

:59:22. > :59:26.off, a low depreciation, is a wonderful charge. And she had a

:59:27. > :59:29.problem, for 30 years she has been doing that. I say it all the time,

:59:30. > :59:34.she talks about healthcare. Why don't you do is only about a? She

:59:35. > :59:37.talks about taxes, why didn't she do something about it? She doesn't do

:59:38. > :59:41.anything about anything other than talk. With her it is all talk and no

:59:42. > :59:46.action. And again, Bernie Sanders, is really bad judgement. She has

:59:47. > :59:52.made bad judgement not only on taxes, she's made bad judgement on

:59:53. > :59:57.Libya, on Syria, on Iraq. I mean, and Obama, whether you like it or

:59:58. > :00:01.not, the way they got out of Iraq, the vacuum they have left, that is

:00:02. > :00:05.why ISIS formed in the first place. They started from that little area,

:00:06. > :00:06.and now they are in 32 different nations, Hillary. Congratulations,

:00:07. > :00:18.great job. Would you like to respond? Here we

:00:19. > :00:22.go again. I have been in favour of getting rid of carried interest for

:00:23. > :00:27.years, starting from when I was a senator... Why didn't you do it? I

:00:28. > :00:34.was a senator with a Republican president... You were...

:00:35. > :00:38.APPLAUSE. If you were an effective senator you could have done at.

:00:39. > :00:44.Allow her to respond. She did not interrupted. And our Constitution,

:00:45. > :00:51.presidents have something called the power of veto. He has said

:00:52. > :00:58.repeatedly 30 years these and 30 years that. Let me talk about my 30

:00:59. > :01:01.years of service. 8 million kids every year have health insurance

:01:02. > :01:05.because when I was first lady I worked with Democrats and

:01:06. > :01:08.Republicans to create the insurance programme for children. Hundreds of

:01:09. > :01:13.thousands of children now have the ability to be adopted because I

:01:14. > :01:18.worked to change the adoption and foster care system. After 9/11 I

:01:19. > :01:22.went to work with the Republican, governor, and president, to rebuild

:01:23. > :01:30.New York and get healthcare for first responders because they had

:01:31. > :01:35.gotten sick sick. National Guard people have healthcare because of

:01:36. > :01:41.the work I did. And children have safe medicine because I was able to

:01:42. > :01:45.pass a law that required the dosing to be more carefully done. When I

:01:46. > :01:48.was Secretary of State I went around the world advocating for our

:01:49. > :01:54.country, but also advocating for women's rights to make sure that

:01:55. > :02:00.women had a decent chance to have a better life. And I negotiated a

:02:01. > :02:07.treaty with Russia to lower nuclear weapons. 400 pieces of legislation

:02:08. > :02:11.have my name on it. As a sponsor or co-sponsor when I was a senator for

:02:12. > :02:16.each years. I worked very hard and was proud to be re-elected in New

:02:17. > :02:20.York by an even bigger margin than I was elected the first time. --8

:02:21. > :02:23.years. And as president I will take that work, that bipartisan work,

:02:24. > :02:28.finding common ground, because you have to be able to it along with

:02:29. > :02:35.people to get things done in Washington. Hillary Clinton. And I

:02:36. > :02:39.have gotten results. Syria. Both of you have mentioned that... She said

:02:40. > :02:45.a lot of things and I think should be allowed... No. Donald Trump. Were

:02:46. > :02:54.going to move on. The heartbreaking video of a five-year old in Syria in

:02:55. > :02:58.an ambulance after being pulled from the rubble after an airstrike in

:02:59. > :03:02.Aleppo focused the attention of the world on the war in Syria. With 136

:03:03. > :03:09.million views on Facebook alone. But there much worse images coming out

:03:10. > :03:15.of Aleppo every day now were in the past few weeks alone 400 people have

:03:16. > :03:18.died, at least 100 of them children. Just days ago, the State Department

:03:19. > :03:23.called for a war crimes investigation of the Syrian Regime

:03:24. > :03:26.of Bashar al-Assad and its allied Russia for the bombardment of

:03:27. > :03:32.Aleppo. So this next question comes from social media through Facebook.

:03:33. > :03:35.Diane from Pennsylvania asks if you are president what would you do

:03:36. > :03:40.about Syria and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo? Isn't it a lot

:03:41. > :03:47.like the hollow cast, when the US waited too long to help? --

:03:48. > :03:55.Holocaust. The situation in Syria is catastrophic. Every day that goes by

:03:56. > :03:59.we see the results of the regime by Bashar al-Assad and the partnership

:04:00. > :04:05.with Iranians on the ground, the Russians in the air, bombarding

:04:06. > :04:10.places, in particular, Aleppo, where there are hundreds of thousands of

:04:11. > :04:18.people, probably about 250,000, still left. And there is a

:04:19. > :04:22.determined effort from the Russians to destroy Aleppo in order to

:04:23. > :04:27.eliminate the last of the Syrian rebels who were really holding out

:04:28. > :04:31.against the Bashar al-Assad regime. Russia hasn't paid any attention to

:04:32. > :04:36.Islamic State. They are interested in keeping Bashar al-Assad in power.

:04:37. > :04:43.When I was Secretary of State I advocated and I advocate today a

:04:44. > :04:47.no-fly zone and safe zones. We need leverage with the Russians because

:04:48. > :04:52.they are not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic,

:04:53. > :04:56.umm, resolution, unless there is some leverage over them. And we have

:04:57. > :05:03.to work more closely with our partners and allies on the ground.

:05:04. > :05:08.But I watched to emphasise that what is at stake here is the ambitions

:05:09. > :05:14.and the aggressiveness of Russia. Russia has decided that it is all in

:05:15. > :05:18.in Syria and they have also decided who they want to see become

:05:19. > :05:23.President of the United States as well. It is not me. I have stood up

:05:24. > :05:27.to Russia, I have taken on Vladimir Putin and others, and I would do

:05:28. > :05:32.that as president. I think wherever we can co-operate with Russia, that

:05:33. > :05:36.is fine, and I did as Secretary of State, that is how we got a treaty

:05:37. > :05:40.reducing nuclear weapons, and how we got sections on Iran that put a lid

:05:41. > :05:46.on the Iranian nuclear programme without firing a singular shot. We

:05:47. > :05:50.had more leverage than we do now. But they do support the effort to

:05:51. > :06:00.investigate war crimes committed by the Russians and trying to hold them

:06:01. > :06:05.accountable. The so-called line in the sand... I wasn't. I hate the

:06:06. > :06:12.interop... Excuse me. You were in contact with them. Sadly, Obama

:06:13. > :06:17.probably still listened. He will not listen to you any more. Obama draws

:06:18. > :06:23.the line in the sand. It was last out all over the world, what

:06:24. > :06:28.happened. -- laughed at. With that being said, she talks tough against

:06:29. > :06:33.Russia, but the nuclear programme of the US has fell way behind. Russia

:06:34. > :06:38.has gone well ahead. That is not good. Should not have allowed that

:06:39. > :06:43.to happen. Russia is new in terms of nuclear. We are old and tired and

:06:44. > :06:49.exhausted with nuclear weapons. She the tough, really tough, against

:06:50. > :06:54.Vladimir Putin and against Bashar al-Assad. She talks in favour of the

:06:55. > :06:59.rebels. She doesn't even know who they are. You know, time we rebels,

:07:00. > :07:04.whether it is in Iraq, or anywhere else, we are arming people. -- every

:07:05. > :07:08.time. And what happens is they are worse than who are there before.

:07:09. > :07:17.Look at what happened in Libya with her and Gaddafi. It was a disaster.

:07:18. > :07:21.The fact is, almost everything she has done in foreign policy has been

:07:22. > :07:25.a mistake and it has been a disaster. But if you look at Russia,

:07:26. > :07:29.just take a look at Russia, and look at what they did this week, where I

:07:30. > :07:32.agree she wasn't there, but possibly she was consulted, we signed a peace

:07:33. > :07:37.treaty. Everyone was excited. But what Russia did with Bashar

:07:38. > :07:43.al-Assad, and by the way, Iran, which we made powerful with the

:07:44. > :07:47.dumbest deal ever, the Iran deal, with $150 billion, with 1.7 million

:07:48. > :07:53.in cash, enough to fill up this room... But look at this deal. Iran

:07:54. > :07:57.and Russia now are against us. So she wants to fight. She wants to

:07:58. > :08:01.fight for rebels. There is only one problem, you don't even know who the

:08:02. > :08:08.rebels are. Donald Trump. Your ten minutes are up. I don't like Bashar

:08:09. > :08:11.al-Assad at all but he is killing Islamic State. Russia is killing

:08:12. > :08:16.Islamic State. And Iran is killing Islamic State. And those three have

:08:17. > :08:20.now lined up because of our week for policy. -- week foreign policy. Let

:08:21. > :08:27.me repeat the question. LAUGHING. If you work president,

:08:28. > :08:30.what would you do about Syria and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo? I

:08:31. > :08:33.want to remind you what you're running mate said, he said

:08:34. > :08:39.provocations by Russia need to be met by American strength. If Russia

:08:40. > :08:43.continues to be involved in airstrikes along with the Syrian

:08:44. > :08:47.airstrike forces of Bashar al-Assad, the US should be prepared to use

:08:48. > :08:51.military force to strike the military targets of the Bashar

:08:52. > :08:57.al-Assad regime. He and I haven't spoken and we disagree. You disagree

:08:58. > :09:01.with your running mate? We need to knock out Islamic State. Syria is

:09:02. > :09:06.knocking out Islamic State. But Syria is no longer Syria, Syria is

:09:07. > :09:11.Russia. And it is Iran that she made strong, and Kerry and Obama made it

:09:12. > :09:15.into a rich and powerful nation very, very quickly. Very, very

:09:16. > :09:20.quickly. And I believe we have to get Islamic State. We have to worry

:09:21. > :09:25.about Islamic State before we can get too much more involved. She had

:09:26. > :09:29.a chance to do something in Syria, they had a chance, and that was the

:09:30. > :09:33.line. What will happen if Aleppo falls? I think it is a disaster.

:09:34. > :09:37.What you think will happen if it falls? I think basically it has

:09:38. > :09:43.fallen. It has basically fallen. The biggest problem with the stupidity

:09:44. > :09:48.of our foreign policy, we have mostly... I think most of the

:09:49. > :09:52.Islamic State leaders are in Mosul. We have them coming out of Iraq. We

:09:53. > :09:57.would eat acting Mosul in three or four weeks. All these bad leaders

:09:58. > :10:03.from Islamic State are leaving from Mosul. -- attacking. Why can't they

:10:04. > :10:06.do the attack and make it a sneak attack and after the attack is made,

:10:07. > :10:10.inform the American public that we have knocked out the leaders and

:10:11. > :10:15.have had tremendous success. They will leave. Why do we have to say we

:10:16. > :10:20.are going to be attacking Mosul within 3-4 weeks. How stupid is our

:10:21. > :10:24.country? There are sometimes reason the military does that.

:10:25. > :10:33.Psychological warfare. I can't think of any... It might be to help get

:10:34. > :10:37.civilians out. Look, I have 200 generals and 21 Congressional medal

:10:38. > :10:41.of honour recipients who trust me. We talk about it all the time. They

:10:42. > :10:48.understand. Why can't they do something secretively? Where they go

:10:49. > :10:55.in and knock out the leadership? Why would these people stay there? Tell

:10:56. > :11:00.me what your strategy is. Mosul, it is the, between Raqqa and Mosul,

:11:01. > :11:04.this is where they think the Islamic State leaders are. Why would they

:11:05. > :11:08.stay there? They are gone, because everyone is talking about how Iraq,

:11:09. > :11:15.which is us, without leadership, goes into fight Mosul. Now, with

:11:16. > :11:20.these 200 generals and recipients, they can't believe it. General

:11:21. > :11:24.Douglas MacArthur, George Patton, they are spinning in their graves,

:11:25. > :11:28.at the stupidity of what we are doing in the released. Secretary

:11:29. > :11:36.Clinton, you advocated arming rebels. -- doing in the Middle East.

:11:37. > :11:39.It looks like that may be too late for Aleppo. You talk about

:11:40. > :11:45.ceasefires, but they have failed. Would you introduce the threat of US

:11:46. > :11:49.military force beyond a no-fly zone against the Bashar al-Assad regime

:11:50. > :11:53.to back up diplomacy? I would not use American ground forces in Syria.

:11:54. > :11:59.I think that would be a very serious mistake. I don't think American

:12:00. > :12:04.troops should be holding territory, which is what they would have to do

:12:05. > :12:09.as an occupying force. I don't think that is a smart strategy. I do think

:12:10. > :12:15.the use of special forces, which we are using, the use of enablers and

:12:16. > :12:20.trainers in Iraq, which has had some positive effects, are very much in

:12:21. > :12:24.our interest, and I do support what is happening. But... What would you

:12:25. > :12:31.do differently to what Barack Obama is doing? I hope that by the...

:12:32. > :12:35.Well... I hope by the time I am president that we will have pushed

:12:36. > :12:40.Islamic State out of Iraq. I do think there is a good chance that we

:12:41. > :12:44.can take Mosul. And, you know, Donald Trump says he knows more

:12:45. > :12:49.about Islamic State than the general. No, he does not. There are

:12:50. > :12:56.a lot of very important planning things going on, and some of it is

:12:57. > :12:59.to signal to the Sunnis in the area as well as Kurdish Peshmerga

:13:00. > :13:03.fighters that we all need to do this and be in this and that takes a lot

:13:04. > :13:19.of planning and preparation. Would go after Abu Bakr Baghdadi, because

:13:20. > :13:24.that made it different and it would help. I would also armed the Kurds.

:13:25. > :13:28.They have been our best partners in Syria, as well as Iraq. And I know

:13:29. > :13:32.there is a lot of concern about that, especially in some circles,

:13:33. > :13:36.but I think they need the equipment they need so that Kurdish and Arab

:13:37. > :13:39.fighters on the ground are the principal way that we take Raqqa

:13:40. > :13:46.after pushing Islamic State out of Iraq. Thank you very much. She went

:13:47. > :13:51.over a minute and you did not stop her. When I go one seconds... You

:13:52. > :14:08.had many answers. A question from James Carter. Mr Carter. My question

:14:09. > :14:14.is, do you believe you can be a devoted president to all of the

:14:15. > :14:20.people in the United States? That question begins for Donald Trump.

:14:21. > :14:27.Absolutely. I mean she calls our people deplorable. A large group

:14:28. > :14:31.irredeemable. I will be a president for all of our people. And I will be

:14:32. > :14:35.a president that will turn our inner cities around and will give strength

:14:36. > :14:40.to people, and will give economics to people, and will give jobs back.

:14:41. > :14:47.Because NAFTA, by her husband, is possibly the greatest problematic

:14:48. > :14:51.trade deal in history. It stripped us of many factoring jobs. We lost

:14:52. > :14:58.our jobs and our money and our plans, it is a disaster. Now she

:14:59. > :15:03.wants to sign the TTP. She called at the gold standard. By the way, at

:15:04. > :15:05.the last debate, she lied. She said she did not say that. She actually

:15:06. > :15:15.said that. She lied. OK? I would be a president for all of

:15:16. > :15:20.the people, African-Americans, the inner cities, devastating, what's

:15:21. > :15:24.happening to our inner cities. She's been talking about it for years. As

:15:25. > :15:29.usual, she talks about it, nothing happens. She doesn't get it done.

:15:30. > :15:33.Same with Filipino Americans. The Hispanic Americans, the same

:15:34. > :15:38.exacting -- the Latino Americans. They talk, they don't get it done.

:15:39. > :15:44.You go into the inner cities and it is 45% poverty, African Americans,

:15:45. > :15:49.45% poverty in the inner cities. The education is a disaster. Jobs are

:15:50. > :15:54.essentially non-existent. I mean, it's... You know, and I've been

:15:55. > :15:59.saying in big speeches where I have 20,000 and 30,000 people, what do

:16:00. > :16:02.you have to lose? It can't get any worse. And she's been talking about

:16:03. > :16:07.the inner cities were 25 years. Nothing is going to ever happen. Let

:16:08. > :16:11.me tell you, if she is president of the United States, nothing is going

:16:12. > :16:14.to ever happen. It will just be talking, all of her friends, the

:16:15. > :16:19.taxes we are talking about, and I were just get it by a osmosis, she

:16:20. > :16:23.is not doing me any favours. But by doing it she is doing others

:16:24. > :16:28.favours. But I will tell you she is all talk, it doesn't get done. All

:16:29. > :16:32.you have to do is take a look at upstate New York. Your two minutes

:16:33. > :16:37.is up. It turned out to be a disaster. You have two units,

:16:38. > :16:43.Hillary Clinton. Well, 65% of people voted for me to re-elect me when I

:16:44. > :16:46.read from a second term and I was very proud and humbled by that. Mr

:16:47. > :16:50.Carter, I have tried my entire life to do what they can to support

:16:51. > :16:55.children and families. You know, right out of law school I went to

:16:56. > :16:59.work for the children's defence fund and Donald talks a lot about... You

:17:00. > :17:03.know, the 30 years I have been in public service. I am proud of that.

:17:04. > :17:07.I started off as a young lawyer, working against the Skrunda nation,

:17:08. > :17:12.against African-American children, in schools and in the criminal

:17:13. > :17:16.justice system -- against discrimination. I worked to make

:17:17. > :17:19.sure that kids with disabilities can get a public education, something I

:17:20. > :17:25.care very much about. I have worked with Latinos. One of my first jobs

:17:26. > :17:30.in politics was down in South Texas, registering Latina citizens to be

:17:31. > :17:35.able to vote. So I have a deep devotion, to use your absolutely

:17:36. > :17:39.correct word, to making sure that every American feels like he or she

:17:40. > :17:46.has a place in our country. And I think, when you look at the letters

:17:47. > :17:49.that I get, a lot of people are worried that maybe they wouldn't

:17:50. > :17:55.have a place in Donald Trump's America. They write me and... One

:17:56. > :17:59.woman wrote me about her son, Felix. She adopted him from Ethiopia when

:18:00. > :18:03.he was a toddler. He is ten years old now, this is the only country he

:18:04. > :18:08.has ever known, and he listens to Donald on TV and he said to his

:18:09. > :18:12.mother one day, will he send me back to Ethiopia if he gets elected? You

:18:13. > :18:17.know, children listen to what is being said, to go back to the very

:18:18. > :18:21.first question. And there is a lot of fear that in fact teachers and

:18:22. > :18:25.parents are calling it the Trump Effect. Bullying is up, a lot of

:18:26. > :18:30.people are feeling uneasy, a lot of kids are expressing their concerns.

:18:31. > :18:35.So first and foremost, I will do everything I can to reach out to

:18:36. > :18:38.everybody, Democrats, Republicans, independence, people across our

:18:39. > :18:42.country. If you don't vote for me, I still want to be president. I want

:18:43. > :18:48.to be the best president I can be for every American. I want to follow

:18:49. > :18:54.up on a comment you made last month. He said that half of Donald Trump's

:18:55. > :18:59.supporters are, quote, deplorables. You later said he regretted saying

:19:00. > :19:03.half. You didn't express regret for using the term deplorables. How can

:19:04. > :19:08.you unite the country if you have written off tens of millions of

:19:09. > :19:12.Americans. Well, within hours I said I was sorry with the way I talked

:19:13. > :19:16.about that because my argument is not with his supporters. It is with

:19:17. > :19:20.him, and with a hateful and divisive campaign that he has run. And the

:19:21. > :19:27.inciting of violence at his rallies, and the very brutal kinds of

:19:28. > :19:31.comments about not just women, but all Americans. All kinds of

:19:32. > :19:40.Americans. And what he has said about African-Americans and Latinos,

:19:41. > :19:43.about Muslims, about POWs, about immigrants, about people with

:19:44. > :19:48.disabilities, he has never apologised for. And so I do think

:19:49. > :19:52.that a lot of the tone and tenor that he has set, I am proud of the

:19:53. > :19:57.campaign that Bernie Sanders and I ran. We ran a campaign based on

:19:58. > :20:00.issues, not insults, and he is supporting the 100%. Because we

:20:01. > :20:04.talked about what we wanted to do. We might have had some differences,

:20:05. > :20:08.and we had a lot of debates, but we believed that we could make the

:20:09. > :20:14.country better. And I was proud of that. We have a divided nation. We

:20:15. > :20:18.have a very divided nation. You look at Charlotte, you look at all the

:20:19. > :20:22.more, you look at the violence that is taking place in the inner cities,

:20:23. > :20:28.Chicago, you take a look at Washington, DC. We have an increase

:20:29. > :20:32.in murder within our cities. The biggest in 45 years. We have a

:20:33. > :20:37.divided nation, because people like her... And believe me, she has

:20:38. > :20:42.tremendous hate in her heart. And when she said deplorables, she meant

:20:43. > :20:46.it. And when she said irredeemable, they are irredeemable, you didn't

:20:47. > :20:50.mention that, but when she said they are irredeemable, to me that might

:20:51. > :20:56.have been even worse. She has got tremendous hatred. And this country

:20:57. > :21:00.cannot take another four years of Barack Obama, and that is what you

:21:01. > :21:05.are getting with her. Mr Trump, let me follow up with you. In 2008 U

:21:06. > :21:08.wrote in one of your books that the most important characteristic of a

:21:09. > :21:13.good leader is discipline. You said if a leader doesn't have it he or

:21:14. > :21:17.she won't be one very long. In the days after the debate, you sent out

:21:18. > :21:23.a series of tweets between 3am and 5am, including one which said it

:21:24. > :21:28.check out the sex tape. It wasn't check out a sex tape, it was taking

:21:29. > :21:32.a look at this woman who she set up to be this wonderful... And when she

:21:33. > :21:37.said 3am in the morning, take a look at Benghazi. Who is going to answer

:21:38. > :21:41.the call at three a.m.? Guess what. She didn't answer. Because when

:21:42. > :21:47.Ambassador Stevens... 600 times, she said she was awake at 3am, and she

:21:48. > :21:52.also sent out a tweet at 3am, but I won't even mention that. She said

:21:53. > :21:56.famously, we are going to answer a call at 3am, guess what happened,

:21:57. > :22:02.Ambassador Stevens sent 600 request for help, and the only one she

:22:03. > :22:08.talked to was Sidney Blumenthal, who is her friend, and not a good guy,

:22:09. > :22:12.by the way. So she should be talking about that. Now, tweeting happens to

:22:13. > :22:16.be a modern-day form of communication. I mean, you can like

:22:17. > :22:20.it or not like it. I have, between Facebook and Twitter, almost 25

:22:21. > :22:25.million people. It is a very effective way of communication, so

:22:26. > :22:33.you can put it down but it is a very effective form of communication. I

:22:34. > :22:40.am not un-proud of it, to be honest. Secretary Clinton, does Mr Trump had

:22:41. > :22:44.a discipline to be leader? No. I am shocked by that. It is not the

:22:45. > :22:47.opinion only of me, it is the opinion of many others,

:22:48. > :22:53.African-Americans, former members of Congress, but it is in part because

:22:54. > :22:57.those of us who have had the great privilege of seeing this job up

:22:58. > :23:03.close and know how difficult it is, and it is not just because I watched

:23:04. > :23:08.my husband take a $300 billion deficit and turn it into a $200

:23:09. > :23:11.billion surplus, and 23 million new jobs were created, and incomes went

:23:12. > :23:17.up for everybody. Everybody. African-American incomes went up

:23:18. > :23:24.33%. And it is not just because I worked with George W Bush after

:23:25. > :23:28.9/11, and I was very proud that when I told him what the city needed and

:23:29. > :23:32.what we needed to recover he said you have got it and he never

:23:33. > :23:35.wavered. He stuck with me. And I have worked and I admire President

:23:36. > :23:38.Obama. He inherited the worst financial crisis in the great

:23:39. > :23:43.depression. That was a terrible time for our country. We have to move

:23:44. > :23:47.along. 9 million lost their jobs, 5 million homes were lost, and $15

:23:48. > :23:51.trillion in family wealth was wiped out. We are back on the right track.

:23:52. > :23:56.He would send us back into recession with his tax plans. Secretary

:23:57. > :24:01.Benton, we are moving to an audience question. We are almost out of time.

:24:02. > :24:06.We have the slowest growth since 1929. Our country has the slowest

:24:07. > :24:09.growth, and jobs are a disaster. Mr Trump, we will get a question from

:24:10. > :24:18.the audience. Thank you very much, both of you. Beth Miller has a

:24:19. > :24:23.question for both candidates. Good evening. Perhaps the most important

:24:24. > :24:26.aspect of this election is the Supreme Court justice. What would

:24:27. > :24:32.you prioritise the most important aspect of selecting a Supreme Court

:24:33. > :24:37.justice? We began with your two minutes, Secretary Clinton. You are

:24:38. > :24:41.right, this is one of the most important issues in this election. I

:24:42. > :24:44.want to appoint Supreme Court justices who understand the way the

:24:45. > :24:50.world really works, who have real-life experience, who have not

:24:51. > :24:57.just been at a big law firm and maybe clerk for a judge, and got on

:24:58. > :25:00.the bench, but actually tried some cases and understand what people are

:25:01. > :25:05.up against. I think the current court has gone on the wrong

:25:06. > :25:10.direction so I would want to see the Supreme Court reversed citizens

:25:11. > :25:14.United, and get dark, unaccountable money out of our politics. Donald

:25:15. > :25:17.doesn't agree with that. I would like the Supreme Court to understand

:25:18. > :25:21.that voting rights are still a big problem in many parts of our

:25:22. > :25:24.country, that we don't always do everything we can to make it

:25:25. > :25:29.possible for people of colour and older people and young people to be

:25:30. > :25:35.able to exercise their franchise. I want a Supreme Court that will stick

:25:36. > :25:39.with Roe versus Wade and a woman's right to choose and I want a Supreme

:25:40. > :25:43.Court that will stick with marriage equality. Donald has put forth the

:25:44. > :25:48.names of some people he would consider, and among the ones he has

:25:49. > :25:52.suggested are people who would reverse Roe versus Wade and reverse

:25:53. > :25:55.marriage equality. I think that would be a terrible mistake and

:25:56. > :25:59.would take us backwards. I want the Supreme Court that doesn't always

:26:00. > :26:02.side with corporate interest. I want a Supreme Court that understands

:26:03. > :26:06.because you are wealthy you can give more money to something, doesn't

:26:07. > :26:10.mean you have any more rights, or should have any more rights, than

:26:11. > :26:14.anyone else. So I have very clear views about what I want to see, to

:26:15. > :26:18.try to change the balance on the Supreme Court. And I regret deeply

:26:19. > :26:22.that the Senate has not done its job. And they have not permitted a

:26:23. > :26:26.vote on the person that President Obama, a highly qualified person,

:26:27. > :26:31.they have not given him a vote to be able to have the full complement of

:26:32. > :26:36.nine Supreme Court justices. I think that was a dereliction of duty. I

:26:37. > :26:41.hope that they will see their way to doing it, but if I am so fortunate

:26:42. > :26:45.as to be president, I will immediately move to make sure that

:26:46. > :26:49.we feel that, we have nine justices, and they can work on behalf of our

:26:50. > :26:58.people. Thank you, you are out of time. Mr Trump. Or a Scalia, great

:26:59. > :27:04.judge, died recently -- Justice Scalia. I am looking to appoint

:27:05. > :27:09.judges very much in the mould of Justice Scalia. I am looking for

:27:10. > :27:14.judges... I have actively picked 20 of them. So that people would see,

:27:15. > :27:18.highly respected, highly thought of, and actually very beautifully

:27:19. > :27:24.reviewed by just about everybody. But people that will respect the

:27:25. > :27:30.Constitution of the United States. And I think that this is so

:27:31. > :27:33.important. Also the second amendment, which is totally under

:27:34. > :27:37.siege by people like Hillary Clinton. They will respect the

:27:38. > :27:40.second Amendment and what it stands for, what it represents. So

:27:41. > :27:43.important to me, and Hillary mentioned something about

:27:44. > :27:49.contributions, just so you understand. So I will have in my

:27:50. > :27:54.race more than $100 million put in, of my money, meaning I'm not taking

:27:55. > :27:57.all of this big money from all of these different corporations, like

:27:58. > :28:01.she is doing. What I ask is this. I'm putting in more than doubled up

:28:02. > :28:04.by the time it is finished I will have more than $100 million

:28:05. > :28:07.invested, pretty much self funding and raising money for the Republican

:28:08. > :28:12.Party and we are doing to mandatory on the small donations, $61 average

:28:13. > :28:16.or so. I ask Hillary, why doesn't she make $250 million by being in

:28:17. > :28:21.office? She used the power of her office to make a lot of money. Why

:28:22. > :28:25.isn't she funding... Not for $100 million, but why did you put $10

:28:26. > :28:30.million or $25 million or $30 million into your own campaign? It

:28:31. > :28:34.is $30 million less for special interest that will tell you exactly

:28:35. > :28:38.what to do and it would really I think be a nice sign to the American

:28:39. > :28:42.public. Why aren't you putting some money in? You have made a lot of it

:28:43. > :28:46.because of the fact that you have been in office. You made a lot of it

:28:47. > :28:49.while you were Secretary of State, actually. So why are you putting

:28:50. > :28:54.money into your own campaign, just curious. Thank you very much, we are

:28:55. > :28:58.going to get onto one more question. The question was about the Supreme

:28:59. > :29:02.Court and I want to quickly say I respect the second Amendment but I

:29:03. > :29:05.believe there should be copper heads a background check and we should

:29:06. > :29:11.close the gun show flip loophole, and close the online loophole. We

:29:12. > :29:19.have one more question about energy policy. What steps will your energy

:29:20. > :29:23.policy take to meet our energy needs, while at the same time

:29:24. > :29:28.remaining environmentally friendly and minimising job loss for fossil

:29:29. > :29:33.power plant workers. I think it is such a great question, because

:29:34. > :29:38.energy is under siege by the Obama administration, under absolute

:29:39. > :29:41.siege. The EPA, environmental protection agency, is killing these

:29:42. > :29:46.energy companies, and foreign companies are now coming and buying

:29:47. > :29:50.our top of the dying so many of our different plants, and then rejigging

:29:51. > :29:53.the plant so that they can take care of their foil. We are killing,

:29:54. > :29:59.absolutely killing, our energy business in this country. Now, I am

:30:00. > :30:04.all for alternative forms of energy, including wind, including solar,

:30:05. > :30:08.etc, but we need much more than wind and solar. You look at our miners.

:30:09. > :30:13.Hillary Clinton wants to put all the miners out of business. There is a

:30:14. > :30:18.thing called clean coal. Coal will last for 1000 years in this country.

:30:19. > :30:21.Now we have natural gas in so many other things, because of technology.

:30:22. > :30:25.We have unbelievable... We have found over the last seven years, we

:30:26. > :30:30.have found tremendous wealth right under our feet. So good, especially

:30:31. > :30:35.when you had $20 trillion in debt. I will bring our energy companies

:30:36. > :30:39.back. They will be able to compete, they will make money, they will pay

:30:40. > :30:43.off our national debt, they will pay off a tremendous Budget deficits,

:30:44. > :30:49.which are tremendous. But we are putting our energy companies out of

:30:50. > :30:53.business. We have to bring back our workers. You take a look at what is

:30:54. > :30:58.happening to steal and the cost of steel. And China dumping vast

:30:59. > :31:01.amounts of steel all over the United States, which essentially is killing

:31:02. > :31:07.our steelworkers and oust deal companies. -- our steel companies.

:31:08. > :31:10.We have to guard our energy companies. We have to make it

:31:11. > :31:14.possible. The EPA is so restrictive that they are putting our energy

:31:15. > :31:18.companies out of business. And all you have to do is go to a great

:31:19. > :31:22.place like West Virginia or places like Ohio, which is phenomenal, or

:31:23. > :31:27.places like Pennsylvania, and you see what they are doing to the

:31:28. > :31:35.people, miners and others, in the energy business. It's a disgrace.

:31:36. > :31:43.Two minutes. That was interesting. First of all, China is illegally

:31:44. > :31:47.dumping steel in the US and Donald Trump is buying it to build here is

:31:48. > :31:52.buildings, putting Americans still plans and workers out of business.

:31:53. > :31:58.That is something I fought against as a senator. -- steel plants. Iowa

:31:59. > :32:04.have a trade prosecutor to make sure we don't get taken advantage of by

:32:05. > :32:08.China and steel and anything else. -- I would. You are in the business

:32:09. > :32:13.and are aware of it, you know that for the first time ever we are

:32:14. > :32:18.energy independence, not dependent on the Middle East. But the Middle

:32:19. > :32:22.East controls a lot of the prices. The price of oil has been way down

:32:23. > :32:29.to my having a damaging effect on many of the oil companies, right? We

:32:30. > :32:35.are also producing natural gas, serving as a bridge to more

:32:36. > :32:38.renewable fuels. I think that is a important transition. We need to be

:32:39. > :32:44.energy independent. It gives us power and freedom than to be worried

:32:45. > :32:47.about what goes on in the Middle East. We have enough worries over

:32:48. > :32:52.there without having to worry about that. So I have a comprehensive

:32:53. > :32:56.energy policy. But it does include fighting climate change because I

:32:57. > :33:01.think that is a serious problem. And I support moving to a more clean,

:33:02. > :33:05.renewable energy, as quickly as we can, because I think we can be the

:33:06. > :33:12.twin if first century clean energy superpower and create new jobs and

:33:13. > :33:17.businesses. -- 21st century. But they also don't want to leave people

:33:18. > :33:21.behind. That is why I was the only candidate from the beginning of this

:33:22. > :33:26.campaign to have a plan to help us revitalise coal country, because

:33:27. > :33:31.those miners and their fathers and their grandfathers, many lost their

:33:32. > :33:35.lives and were injured, but they turn the lights on and powered our

:33:36. > :33:41.factories. I don't want to walk away from them. We have to do something

:33:42. > :33:46.for them. The price of oil is down worldwide. So I have proposed

:33:47. > :33:54.something to do for that and you can go to my website to see it. We have

:33:55. > :34:02.sneaked in one more question from Karl Becker. Good evening. My

:34:03. > :34:06.question to both of you is, regardless of the current situation,

:34:07. > :34:11.would either of you name one positive thing that you respect in

:34:12. > :34:18.one another? APPLAUSE.

:34:19. > :34:26.LAUGHING Donald Trump, would you like to go first? Well, I certainly

:34:27. > :34:32.will. Because I think that a very fair and important question has just

:34:33. > :34:39.been asked. I respect his children. They are incredibly able and devoted

:34:40. > :34:43.and I think that says a lot about Donald Trump. I don't agreed with

:34:44. > :34:50.nearly anything else he says or does but I do respect that. And I think

:34:51. > :34:55.that is something that, as a mother and grandmother, is very important

:34:56. > :35:04.to me. So, I believe that this election has become, in part, so

:35:05. > :35:11.conflict oriented, so it intends, because there is a lot at stake.

:35:12. > :35:16.This is not an ordinary time and this is not an ordinary election. We

:35:17. > :35:26.are going to be choosing a president who we'll set policy for, not just

:35:27. > :35:30.four or eight years, because of what we have to do around the world to

:35:31. > :35:36.energy and so much else and in The Supreme Court, there is a lot at

:35:37. > :35:39.stake. It is one of the most important elections we have had.

:35:40. > :35:44.That is why I have put forward policies and plans, to get it off

:35:45. > :35:49.the personal and put it on to what we can do when I am president. I

:35:50. > :35:56.hope people will check that so they can see that, yes, I did spent 30

:35:57. > :36:00.plus years working to help children and families. I want to take all

:36:01. > :36:04.that experience to the White House and do that every single day. Donald

:36:05. > :36:09.Trump. Well, I consider the statement about my children to be a

:36:10. > :36:15.very nice compliment. I don't know if it was meant to be one. But I am

:36:16. > :36:18.very proud of my children. They have done a wonderful job and have been

:36:19. > :36:23.wonderful, wonderful children. I consider that a compliment. I will

:36:24. > :36:29.say this about Hillary Clinton, she does not quit, she does not give up.

:36:30. > :36:33.I respect that. I tell you like it is. She is a fighter. I disagree

:36:34. > :36:39.with much of what she is fighting for. I do disagree with her

:36:40. > :36:43.judgement in many cases. But, she does fight hard, and she does not

:36:44. > :36:49.quit, and she doesn't give up. But I consider that to be a very good

:36:50. > :36:54.trade. Thank you, to both of you. -- trait. I want to thank both the

:36:55. > :36:59.candidates and the university. This concludes the second Presidential

:37:00. > :37:08.Debate. Thank you to everyone who watched as well. Tune in on October

:37:09. > :37:16.19th for the final debate is taking place in Nevada. That concludes the

:37:17. > :37:21.second US Presidential Debate. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in

:37:22. > :37:28.a town hall format for 90 minutes. At times it was extremely testy and

:37:29. > :37:37.tense, with many interruptions and exchanges all-round. They addressed

:37:38. > :37:42.the videotape in which Donald Trump said lewd comments about women,

:37:43. > :37:49.taxes, Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server, character issues,

:37:50. > :37:56.Islamic State must area, umm, and the took questions from the hole in

:37:57. > :38:04.St Louis as well. Anthony Zurcher is also in St Louis. What was your

:38:05. > :38:09.takeaway? Well, we were promised a nuclear war in the debate, and it

:38:10. > :38:14.happened. We saw an exchange between the two candidates over Bill

:38:15. > :38:19.Clinton's past and Donald Trump's past, but we were all left standing.

:38:20. > :38:25.We had another 65 minutes of the debate. After that it was a muddled

:38:26. > :38:30.mess. Donald Trump had the upper hand over subjects like Wikileaks

:38:31. > :38:34.and the e-mails. And also about her e-mail server. But then Hillary

:38:35. > :38:37.Clinton got the upper hand whenever it became a policy discussion

:38:38. > :38:45.because Donald Trump often seems out of his depth when talking about

:38:46. > :38:50.Obamacare or the policies about Syria. They talked about the lasting

:38:51. > :38:55.legacy of either of the candidates, it was an afterthought. But that is

:38:56. > :38:58.something that will be important. One of these people takes office in

:38:59. > :39:03.January and that will definitely affect the Senate. Donald Trump went

:39:04. > :39:06.on this debate with many people in his own party raising questions

:39:07. > :39:10.about his fitness to be president, some even saying they were not going

:39:11. > :39:14.to endorse him. I guess what he needed to do during the course of

:39:15. > :39:21.this 90 minutes was stop the bleeding. I mean, he needed to make

:39:22. > :39:24.sure that the floor did not drop out of his campaign and he did not wake

:39:25. > :39:28.up tomorrow with another collection of Republicans saying they cannot

:39:29. > :39:36.support in. Did he manage to do that? He had two bars. One was very

:39:37. > :39:43.low. Showing up on the debate stage not flailing. He presented coherent

:39:44. > :39:49.arguments. I think he did that. He was in the zone for much of the

:39:50. > :39:52.debate. There was a higher bar, the scoring points against Hillary

:39:53. > :39:56.Clinton and doing enough to change the dynamic of the election where he

:39:57. > :40:00.might actually catch up with her, because she is leading in the polls

:40:01. > :40:04.right now. I do think she did that. There was not enough of a different

:40:05. > :40:09.doing the two of them to change it. -- difference tween. You never know

:40:10. > :40:14.what will happen tomorrow. They could be a spin. There was a very

:40:15. > :40:18.clear winner after the first debate. Are you suggesting there was not a

:40:19. > :40:23.clear winner tonight? I don't think so. There was an explosion early on,

:40:24. > :40:29.but after that I think the two candidates mostly brought a draw.

:40:30. > :40:33.Donald Trump did better in the middle of the debate. Hillary

:40:34. > :40:38.Clinton got points towards the end. But on the whole, yes, I did it was

:40:39. > :40:42.a draw. It wasn't much of a town hall debate either. We had two

:40:43. > :40:47.moderators and two candidates and it seemed like a roomful of onlookers.

:40:48. > :40:52.There were not many questions from the audience, which is the best part

:40:53. > :40:56.of this format. It seemed like a lot was fought between the two

:40:57. > :41:03.candidates and the moderators. And it got pretty testy between Donald

:41:04. > :41:08.Trump and the ABC moderator. There was less audience but so patient

:41:09. > :41:18.than in previous debates. I will let you go. -- participation. More

:41:19. > :41:24.guests, a Republican strategist and Democratic bolster. Let me start

:41:25. > :41:27.with you. I think that it seemed Donald Trump went in with high

:41:28. > :41:31.stakes given how many Republicans have said over the past few days

:41:32. > :41:35.they are not sure they will carry on supporting it. Do you think that he

:41:36. > :41:43.stopped that trend in his own party? In the essence of an objective

:41:44. > :41:46.strategy in the debate, I was trying to listen if it was intentional or

:41:47. > :41:53.unintentional, if you get beyond the journalist and political class, the

:41:54. > :41:57.real question is, for a third Obama term, are you willing to take the

:41:58. > :42:02.risk with him? The question in the last body eight hours are still

:42:03. > :42:08.Republicans trying to answer, are you willing to take that risk? -- 48

:42:09. > :42:14.hours. That is the sense of change. He planted seeds in the minds of

:42:15. > :42:19.voters about her sense of being a politician. She has had her time and

:42:20. > :42:28.hasn't done anything. He kept going back to those restraints. All those

:42:29. > :42:33.words. And those key exchanges. We are seeing the candidates shaking

:42:34. > :42:35.hands with people who were part of the town hall meeting. Hillary

:42:36. > :42:41.Clinton and Bill Clinton just before. Do you... What was your

:42:42. > :42:51.takeaway from this debate in terms of undecided or after this year and

:42:52. > :42:56.a half, I find it remarkable there are people who have not made up

:42:57. > :42:59.their minds. There are people who have not made up their minds, the

:43:00. > :43:03.you think they would have been swayed one way or the other? It is

:43:04. > :43:09.very hard to watch these debates and say, yeah, I think Donald Trump has

:43:10. > :43:12.what it takes to be president. Even in his best answers, people were

:43:13. > :43:18.saying, OK, that wasn't one of his worst, but he is still incoherent.

:43:19. > :43:21.He has a big challenge simply interacting with the crowd and

:43:22. > :43:25.answering the question and staying on topic and starting sentences and

:43:26. > :43:30.ending a sentence in the same place on the same topic. He gets agitated,

:43:31. > :43:34.he ebbs and flows with energy. He could not make it through 90 minutes

:43:35. > :43:39.of staying on topic. He clearly does not have the temperament. The

:43:40. > :43:45.candidates are leaving the debate hall at the moment. Going back to

:43:46. > :43:48.their families. They will go to their surrogates in their campaign

:43:49. > :43:52.staff will go into what is called the Spin Room in these debates where

:43:53. > :43:57.they try to spin the debate to the press. I think there are 6- 700 of

:43:58. > :44:07.the press from around the world. They will be there. Bill Clinton and

:44:08. > :44:11.learn you trump will be there. -- Melania Trump. Let us start with the

:44:12. > :44:16.beginning of the debate, the most tense bit. That is because it came

:44:17. > :44:20.after the videotape allegations against Donald Trump. He apologised

:44:21. > :44:26.or the sexual comments on that tape that was released earlier this week.

:44:27. > :44:30.Take a listen. This was locker room talk. I am not proud of it. I

:44:31. > :44:36.apologise to my family and the American people. I am not proud of

:44:37. > :44:42.it. But this is locker room talk. We have a world where you have Islamic

:44:43. > :44:48.State chopping off heads and frankly drowning people in steel cages and

:44:49. > :44:52.you have wars and horrible, horrible sights all over in so many bad

:44:53. > :44:56.things happening. It is like mediaeval times. We have never seen

:44:57. > :45:00.this. Carnage all over the world. And they look and they say, can you

:45:01. > :45:05.imagine people doing so well against us with Islamic State? And a look at

:45:06. > :45:10.our country and see what is going on. Yes, I am embarrassed about it.

:45:11. > :45:19.I hate it. It is locker room talk. It is one of those things. I will

:45:20. > :45:23.knock the hell outta ISIS. They happened years ago in the vacuum

:45:24. > :45:28.left. That was because of bad judgement. I will tell you, I will

:45:29. > :45:33.take care of them. Donald Trump... I will get onto more important things.

:45:34. > :45:38.Just for the record, are you saying that what he said on the bus 11

:45:39. > :45:43.years ago, that you did not actually grope or kiss women without consent?

:45:44. > :45:47.I have great respect for them and no one has more respect for women than

:45:48. > :45:51.I do. Is the trump... You hear these things I said, I was embarrassed by

:45:52. > :45:56.it. But I have tremendous respect for women. Have you ever done those

:45:57. > :46:01.things? And I will tell you... No, I haven't.

:46:02. > :46:08.I have to tell you, it is extraordinary that we are in a

:46:09. > :46:12.presidential debate format, and the moderators asking one of the

:46:13. > :46:16.candidates whether he groped women. Were you persuaded? No, candidates

:46:17. > :46:19.usually lose debates when they failed to diminish negative

:46:20. > :46:24.perception and he certainly still has that. I think debates are

:46:25. > :46:27.certainly situational, and I believe Hillary Clinton's answer, when you

:46:28. > :46:32.have to deliver a precise moment where the circumstances arise, she

:46:33. > :46:38.really I thought it a much better job. As a Republican strategist, how

:46:39. > :46:44.concerning is that the EU, that videotape? It is extremely

:46:45. > :46:48.concerning, and if you look at the factors of the presidency, of

:46:49. > :46:53.suitability, not necessarily likeability or electability, but

:46:54. > :47:01.suitability, it hits to the heart of the temperament and being an -- in

:47:02. > :47:04.an emotional sense whether you can be present or not, that really hits

:47:05. > :47:09.were her strengths are. I think she used him more as a foil, and she

:47:10. > :47:14.didn't debate enough. If you look at from the previous debate, she knew

:47:15. > :47:18.going into it that she could do that successfully. I thought she did.

:47:19. > :47:22.That was the bit I suppose where Donald Trump was the most tense. It

:47:23. > :47:26.seemed to me at the beginning of this debate he knew that this was

:47:27. > :47:29.going to come up. His family went in, I thought, looking extremely

:47:30. > :47:33.stressed at the beginning of the debate as well. We saw Bill Clinton

:47:34. > :47:37.and Chelsea Clinton. We have to remember, this is a political drama,

:47:38. > :47:40.but it is also a personal family drama for both of these families,

:47:41. > :47:43.and that cannot have been comfortable for either family, for

:47:44. > :47:48.his kids, for his wife, and for Chelsea Clinton and Bill Clinton

:47:49. > :47:52.sitting there at having to listen to that. It could have been the moment,

:47:53. > :47:55.I think, in the debate where the potentially put himself out of

:47:56. > :48:01.running for the presidency. I didn't think he did. I thought, it was

:48:02. > :48:05.tense, he managed to make this pivot, whether you agree with it or

:48:06. > :48:09.not, from Saint it was just locker room talk to Islamic State is the

:48:10. > :48:14.real issue here, and I suspect certainly a lot of his supporters

:48:15. > :48:18.will say fair enough, this is over. Well, his supporters, he has a core

:48:19. > :48:22.base of support that is going to support him no matter what. There

:48:23. > :48:25.was a poll that came out today that showed that only 9% of Trump

:48:26. > :48:31.supporters say I feel less favourable towards him as a result.

:48:32. > :48:34.The challenge for folks who are soft Trump supporters, Republicans who

:48:35. > :48:38.are in that undecided group, they say I have been Republican my whole

:48:39. > :48:41.life, I don't think he is very fit to be president. Republican elected

:48:42. > :48:45.officials, people running for the Senate and the house, it is now

:48:46. > :48:49.really and play very much as a result of what has been happening

:48:50. > :48:52.with Trump. I think all of that is going to be altered Trump's

:48:53. > :48:56.performance and I don't think that was a good answer at all. It wasn't

:48:57. > :49:00.just that he pivoted, he sounded incoherent. He said it is just what

:49:01. > :49:04.of those things, things were said, sometimes you hear things like that.

:49:05. > :49:10.It was just a comment out of the sky. He took no ownership, he showed

:49:11. > :49:14.no contrition. Of course he didn't, we should know that by now. He is

:49:15. > :49:17.trying to really gaslight the whole country by saying that this thing

:49:18. > :49:22.that you think is important and travelling, it didn't really happen

:49:23. > :49:25.-- troubling. It will be interesting to see the polls after this debate

:49:26. > :49:29.on that particular issue. Hillary Clinton had issues of her own that

:49:30. > :49:33.she had to deal with, and she admitted she was at fault for using

:49:34. > :49:36.a private e-mail account when she was Secretary of State, but said

:49:37. > :49:43.that nothing had ended up in the wrong hands. That was a mistake, and

:49:44. > :49:47.I take responsibility for using a personal e-mail account. Obviously

:49:48. > :49:51.if I were to do it over again I would not. I am not making any

:49:52. > :49:56.excuses, it was a mistake. And I am very sorry about that. But I think

:49:57. > :50:04.it is also important to point out where there are some misleading

:50:05. > :50:08.accusations from critics and others. After a year-long investigation,

:50:09. > :50:14.there is no evidence that anyone hacked the server I was using, and

:50:15. > :50:21.there is no evidence that anyone can point to, at all, anyone who says

:50:22. > :50:26.otherwise has no basis, that any classified material ended up in the

:50:27. > :50:30.wrong hands. I take classified material very seriously. And always

:50:31. > :50:33.have. When I was in the Senate armed services committee I was privy to a

:50:34. > :50:39.lot of classified material. Obviously as Secretary of State I

:50:40. > :50:47.had some of the most important secrets that we possess, such as

:50:48. > :50:53.going after the Martin. -- Bin Laden. I am very committed to taking

:50:54. > :50:57.classified information seriously and there is no evidence that any

:50:58. > :51:00.classified information ended up in the wrong hands. In the first debate

:51:01. > :51:05.Hillary Clinton got off very lightly on the e-mail issue. There was a

:51:06. > :51:09.minute or two on it, moved on, and I think it didn't really damage her.

:51:10. > :51:13.The longer Hillary Clinton ever has to spend talking about her e-mail

:51:14. > :51:16.server, the worse it is for her, because people don't like this. The

:51:17. > :51:20.night she had to spend a lot more time talking about her e-mail

:51:21. > :51:25.server. All those instant poll things, where focus groups are

:51:26. > :51:29.watching, show that when she has to talk about her e-mails, her approval

:51:30. > :51:34.ratings go down. This was a problem for her tonight, wasn't it? I think

:51:35. > :51:40.this was the answer that she has been giving for a while, and this

:51:41. > :51:44.might be a new version. It seems it is better when it is shorter. Any

:51:45. > :51:49.vulnerability you want to spend as little time on it as possible. But

:51:50. > :51:53.at least she has an answer. There is no finding of any wrongdoing, and

:51:54. > :51:57.let me clear the record, and also we made a mistake. There will not be a

:51:58. > :52:00.new version. This is the answer. For sure she would rather talk about

:52:01. > :52:05.policy than talk about the e-mails. That is certainly a vulnerability

:52:06. > :52:08.for her. That said, it is not even in the same league as a

:52:09. > :52:12.vulnerability as the stuff we are talking about with Trump. It is not

:52:13. > :52:16.in the same league. Donald Trump made a point of saying that he was

:52:17. > :52:19.going to make sure they spoke about e-mails much more during this

:52:20. > :52:23.debate. He got more time on it, perhaps not as much as he would

:52:24. > :52:26.like. How damaging to you think that section of the debate was the

:52:27. > :52:29.Hillary Clinton, looking at those instant polling groups? These are

:52:30. > :52:34.external events which can affect the campaign. If it wasn't for the

:52:35. > :52:37.earlier tape, you would have seen much more of the WikiLeaks Wall

:52:38. > :52:44.Street issue being more driven in the press. That hardly came up. At

:52:45. > :52:48.the same time he gets his chance to go after her own bad judgement. He

:52:49. > :52:52.said he would put her in jail. From the standpoint of where he was

:52:53. > :52:56.planting those seeds against bad judgement, she has been there so

:52:57. > :52:59.long, she had her chance, all of this fits in with this anti-

:53:00. > :53:04.politician, nonpolitician, that a lot of the voters if they want a

:53:05. > :53:08.change election, that was one of the answers that he had. From the

:53:09. > :53:12.standpoint of learning the sense of what a candidate can do and can't

:53:13. > :53:16.do, that is a separate question. And at one point Donald Trump on the

:53:17. > :53:21.issue of serious that I haven't spoken to my running mate, I

:53:22. > :53:24.disagree with them. Yes. Is that Donald Trump being the kind of

:53:25. > :53:38.nonpolitician and people say at least he is being honest, or is a

:53:39. > :53:45.problem Summer -- is that a problem? He can pretend he didn't know

:53:46. > :53:49.anything which was said during a vice president debate. One of the

:53:50. > :53:54.moments when the debate got the most testy is when Donald Trump attacked

:53:55. > :54:00.the moderators for not ringing up the e-mails. I would like to know,

:54:01. > :54:07.Anderson, why are you not bring up the e-mails? It hasn't been

:54:08. > :54:11.finished, at all. It is nice, one on three. This reminds me occasionally

:54:12. > :54:15.of my children, when they feel cross that they are being ganged up

:54:16. > :54:19.against by the parents. But I suspect, actually, it also kind of

:54:20. > :54:23.works for Donald Trump to remind his supporters, certainly, and perhaps

:54:24. > :54:27.even people who have a dim view of the media generally, that he is

:54:28. > :54:30.unfairly treated. And he did it several times during the course of

:54:31. > :54:34.the debate. This kind of thing may work in a primary where you have

:54:35. > :54:37.Republican primary voters who hate the media and want to get into a

:54:38. > :54:41.fight with the media but that doesn't really expand your base,

:54:42. > :54:46.beyond your core base. It doesn't really win over swing voters. We

:54:47. > :54:49.have a phrase, working the refs, where you hassle the referees enough

:54:50. > :54:53.that they will maybe give you a little bit of extra time, and that

:54:54. > :54:57.is what he was doing, it doesn't really show a sign of strength, at

:54:58. > :55:02.all. Briefly, before we go, we just have a minute left, I want to ask

:55:03. > :55:07.you, do you think Donald Trump won over any undecided voters tonight?

:55:08. > :55:12.Well, 19 October is the next debate, so the question of whether he made

:55:13. > :55:15.any ground, or will the floor fallout from underneath them, from

:55:16. > :55:21.undecided voters who are still there, I still think there is that

:55:22. > :55:26.flat trend line. You picked up on the moderators, I know a lot of

:55:27. > :55:30.undecided voters saying they didn't care for all the moderators picking

:55:31. > :55:34.on him, so that may have an effect like what you are talking about.

:55:35. > :55:37.Thank you very much for joining me. That was the second presidential

:55:38. > :55:41.debate. The next one as we just heard as a 19 October. We'll bring

:55:42. > :55:47.you full coverage of that one as well and of the US election campaign

:55:48. > :55:51.coverage between now and that final debate on the election on the eighth

:55:52. > :56:06.of November. There's definitely gonna be

:56:07. > :56:12.an autumnal feel to the weather as we head over the

:56:13. > :56:14.course of this week. Settled and dry conditions

:56:15. > :56:18.in the country due to high