Final Debate and Analysis

:00:17. > :00:22.In just a few minutes the final US presidential debate

:00:23. > :00:38.Hillary Clinton Donald Trump will take to the stage in a few moments

:00:39. > :00:43.up against each other. The last two debates they had have changed the

:00:44. > :00:47.nature of the race. They have been fiery confrontational events and we

:00:48. > :00:53.expect the same for tonight. It will be 90 minutes long, both of them on

:00:54. > :00:58.stage with a moderator. No questions from the audience and they will

:00:59. > :01:05.cover a range of issues from the economy to national security and the

:01:06. > :01:10.character of the presidency. I am joined by Antony. The last two

:01:11. > :01:16.events were huge debates on millions of Americans watch them. As this one

:01:17. > :01:20.important? It is but not as so. Viewership is down for the third

:01:21. > :01:24.debate and for the most part most people have made up their mind

:01:25. > :01:32.already. Post to be polls reflect who they view was like as to who

:01:33. > :01:36.they thought won the debate. It just confirms that what they believed

:01:37. > :01:41.when walked into the debate. What is happening now inside the hall? Last

:01:42. > :01:47.minute preparations. Everybody sitting down and ready to go. There

:01:48. > :01:53.will be somebody from the debate Commissioner explaining the rules of

:01:54. > :02:00.the debate. It is the routine here we are, thank you for coming, before

:02:01. > :02:04.we get to the big event. Usually the families shake hands. This time we

:02:05. > :02:15.have been told that the Clinton camp asked that that not be a feature.

:02:16. > :02:19.The candidates last time did not shake hands although Bill Clinton

:02:20. > :02:24.and maligning trumped it. The candidate is sort of just stared at

:02:25. > :02:30.each other. I think that shows how nasty this campaign is. The Clinton

:02:31. > :02:35.campaign we understand is that Donald Trump may pull some kind of

:02:36. > :02:40.stunt like last time? He tried even more of a stunt last time. He

:02:41. > :02:44.invited Bill Clinton accuses to the stage. They wanted them seated in

:02:45. > :02:50.the front row so that when Bill Clinton came through and shook

:02:51. > :02:54.hands, he would be shaking hands with women who accused him of

:02:55. > :03:01.assault. That is one of the reasons they did not want that handshaking

:03:02. > :03:05.to happen this time. Support Thorogood for both sides seem to

:03:06. > :03:11.float around one of the Trump Sarah gets said that what he needs to do

:03:12. > :03:15.is like he did in the second debate, he needs to go on attack rather than

:03:16. > :03:19.get prickly and defensive about things like his tax returns. I'm

:03:20. > :03:24.sure the issue of sexual harassment and the women accused of abuse will

:03:25. > :03:28.come up as well but they were worried that he is thin-skinned and

:03:29. > :03:32.gets drawn into defending himself. But definitely happened in the first

:03:33. > :03:36.debate. We spend a lot of time talking about his relationship with

:03:37. > :03:40.women and we got bogged down in that. He learned. He did learn in

:03:41. > :03:43.the second debate and he was able to deflect and put the pressure on

:03:44. > :03:47.Hillary Clinton more. If he continues to do that tonight we may

:03:48. > :03:56.see more results. The debate is starting. Secretary of State Hillary

:03:57. > :04:01.Clinton and Donald J Trump. This debate is sponsored by the

:04:02. > :04:06.Commission on Presidential Debates. The commission has designed the

:04:07. > :04:09.format. 615 minute sections with two-minute answers to the first

:04:10. > :04:19.question and then open discussion for the rest of the section. --6

:04:20. > :04:23.times 15 minute sections. I chose the questions and the topics. No

:04:24. > :04:30.questions have been shared with anybody. The audience has promised

:04:31. > :04:34.to remain silent. No cheering, no billing and no other interruptions

:04:35. > :04:38.so we can focus on what the candidates have to say. No noise

:04:39. > :04:50.except right now as we welcome Secretary Clinton and Mr Trump.

:04:51. > :05:10.Secretary Clinton, Mr Trump. Welcome. First topic is the Supreme

:05:11. > :05:14.Court. You both spoke at briefly about the Mac caught in the last

:05:15. > :05:17.debate that I would like to drill down because the next president will

:05:18. > :05:22.almost certainly have a least one appointment and possibly two or

:05:23. > :05:26.three appointments which means that you will in effect to determine the

:05:27. > :05:32.balance of the court for the next quarter century. Where do you want

:05:33. > :05:36.to see the court take the country and, secondly, what is your view on

:05:37. > :05:42.how the Constitution should be interpreted? Do the Mac founders of

:05:43. > :05:47.words mean what they say or is it a living document to be applied

:05:48. > :05:53.flexibly according to changing circumstances. Secretary Clinton,

:05:54. > :05:57.you go first. Thank you to you and to the University of Nevada for

:05:58. > :06:01.hosting us. We'll talk about the Supreme Court it raises the central

:06:02. > :06:07.issue in this election, namely, what kind of country are we going to be.

:06:08. > :06:11.What kind of opportunities will we provide for our citizens, what kind

:06:12. > :06:17.of rights will Americans have? I feel strongly that the Supreme Court

:06:18. > :06:20.needs to stand on the side of the American people, not on the side of

:06:21. > :06:28.the powerful corporations and wealthy. For me that means we need a

:06:29. > :06:33.Supreme Court that will stand up on behalf of women's rights, on behalf

:06:34. > :06:41.of the rights of the LGBTI community, that will stand up and

:06:42. > :06:44.say no to citizens United. A decision that has undermined the

:06:45. > :06:49.election system in our country because of the way it permits dark

:06:50. > :06:54.unaccountable money to come into our electoral system. I have major

:06:55. > :06:59.disagreements with my opponent about these issues and others that will be

:07:00. > :07:03.before the Supreme Court. But I feel that at this point in our country's

:07:04. > :07:10.history it is important that we not reverse that marriage equality, that

:07:11. > :07:21.we not reverse Roe versus Wade, that we stand up against Citizens United,

:07:22. > :07:25.that we stand up against abuses in the workplace. The Supreme Court

:07:26. > :07:30.needs to support all of us and that is how I see the Supreme Court. The

:07:31. > :07:33.people I would look to nominate would be in the great tradition of

:07:34. > :07:39.standing up to the powerful, standing up on behalf of our rights

:07:40. > :07:43.as Americans. I look forward to having that opportunity. I would

:07:44. > :07:47.hope that the Senate does its job and confirm the nominee that

:07:48. > :07:52.President Obama has sent to them. That is the way the Constitution

:07:53. > :07:56.fundamentally should operate. The president nominates and then the

:07:57. > :08:02.Senate advisers and consent or not that they forward with the process.

:08:03. > :08:05.Thank you. Mr Trump, same question. Where would you like to see the

:08:06. > :08:10.court take the country and Hardy believes the Constitution should be

:08:11. > :08:19.interpreted? First of all it is great to be here and it is good to

:08:20. > :08:25.see you. It is so imperative that we have the right justices. Something

:08:26. > :08:27.happened recently where Justice Ginsberg made some very

:08:28. > :08:34.inappropriate statements towards me and towards a tremendous number of

:08:35. > :08:38.people, the millions I represent and she was forced to apologise and

:08:39. > :08:42.apologised she did. These were statements that should never ever

:08:43. > :08:45.have been made. We need a Supreme Court that in my opinion is going to

:08:46. > :08:50.uphold the second amendment, all amendments and leaving the second

:08:51. > :08:56.amendment which is under siege. I believe that if my opponent should

:08:57. > :09:00.win this race which I do not think will happen, we will have a second

:09:01. > :09:04.amendment which will be a very, very small replica of what it is right

:09:05. > :09:12.now but I feel it is absolutely important that we uphold it because

:09:13. > :09:17.it is under such trauma. I feel that the justices that I am going to

:09:18. > :09:22.point, and I have named 20 of them, the justices that I am going to

:09:23. > :09:26.appoint will be pro- alliance. They will have a conservative bent and

:09:27. > :09:36.they will be protecting the second amendment. They are great scholars

:09:37. > :09:39.in all cases. They will interpret the Constitution the way the

:09:40. > :09:43.founders wanted it interpreted as my belief that is very, very important.

:09:44. > :09:47.I don't think we should have justices appointed that the side

:09:48. > :09:55.what they want to hear or stop it is all about the Constitution of... And

:09:56. > :10:01.so important, the Constitution the way out was meant to be. And those

:10:02. > :10:06.other that I will appoint. Thank you, Mr Trump. We now have ten

:10:07. > :10:12.minutes for an open discussion. I would like to focus on two issues

:10:13. > :10:18.that could end up changing the existing law of the land, with the

:10:19. > :10:23.judges you'll appoint. Secretary Clinton, use at last year, let me

:10:24. > :10:29.quote, the Supreme Court is wrong on the second amendment. In 2008 the

:10:30. > :10:34.court ruled that there is a constitutional right to bear arms

:10:35. > :10:39.but a right that is reasonably limited. Those were the words of the

:10:40. > :10:45.judge, Scalia who wrote the decision. What is wrong with that? I

:10:46. > :10:50.do support the second amendment. I lived for 18 years in Arkansas and

:10:51. > :10:54.represented upstate New York. I understand and respect the tradition

:10:55. > :10:59.of gun ownership goes back to the founding of our country. I also

:11:00. > :11:02.believe that there can be and must be reasonable regulation. Because I

:11:03. > :11:09.support the second amendment does not mean I want people who are

:11:10. > :11:13.allowed to have guns to be able to threaten and kill you. When I think

:11:14. > :11:19.about what we need to do, we have 33,000 people who die from guns. I

:11:20. > :11:24.think we need comprehensive background checks. We need to close

:11:25. > :11:28.the online loophole, close the gun show loophole. There are other

:11:29. > :11:33.matters that I think a sensible and that other kind of reforms that

:11:34. > :11:36.would make a difference that are not in any way conflicting with the

:11:37. > :11:43.second amendment. You mentioned that decision of the Supreme Court and

:11:44. > :11:46.your reference that I disagreed with the way the court applied the second

:11:47. > :11:51.amendment in that case because what the District of Columbia was trying

:11:52. > :11:58.to do was to protect toddlers from guns. They wanted people with guns

:11:59. > :12:01.to safely store them. The court didn't accept that reasonable

:12:02. > :12:07.regulation but they have accepted many others. I see no conflict in

:12:08. > :12:12.saving people 's lives and are defending the second amendment. Mr

:12:13. > :12:16.Trump, the bipartisan open debate coalition got millions of votes on

:12:17. > :12:21.questions to ask you and this was, in fact, one of the top questions

:12:22. > :12:25.that they got. How will you ensure the second amendment is protected?

:12:26. > :12:30.You just heard Secretary Clinton's answer. The ship as we do that while

:12:31. > :12:34.you may disagree on regulation that in fact she supports the second

:12:35. > :12:38.amendment right to bear arms? The DC versus Heller decision was very

:12:39. > :12:44.strongly and she was extremely angry about it. I watched it. She was very

:12:45. > :12:49.angry when it was upheld. Just as Scalia was so involved and it was a

:12:50. > :12:54.well crafted decision. Hillary was extremely upset an extremely angry

:12:55. > :12:57.and people who believe in the second amendment and believe in a krait

:12:58. > :13:03.strongly were very upset with what she had to say. Secretary Clinton,

:13:04. > :13:10.were you upset? I was upset because unfortunately dozens of toddlers

:13:11. > :13:16.injure themselves, even kill people with guns because, unfortunately,

:13:17. > :13:19.not everyone who has loaded guns in the homes takes appropriate

:13:20. > :13:23.precautions. But there is no doubt that I respect the second amendment

:13:24. > :13:26.that I also believe there is an individual right to bear arms. That

:13:27. > :13:33.is not in conflict with sensible commonsense regulation and, know, I

:13:34. > :13:38.understand that will's been strongly supported by the NRA, the gun lobby

:13:39. > :13:42.is on his side. They are running millions of dollars of ads against

:13:43. > :13:46.me and I regret that because what I would like to see is for people to

:13:47. > :13:50.come together and say of course we are going to protect and defend the

:13:51. > :13:56.second amendment. But we are going to do it in a way that tries to save

:13:57. > :14:02.some of these 33,000 lives that we lose every year. Mr Trump, in fact

:14:03. > :14:06.you opposed any limits on assault weapons, any limits on high-capacity

:14:07. > :14:13.magazines. You support a national right to carry law. Why? Before we

:14:14. > :14:18.go any further, in Chicago which has the toughest gun laws in the United

:14:19. > :14:23.States, you could probably say by far, they have more gun violence

:14:24. > :14:27.than any other city. They have the toughest laws and tremendous gun

:14:28. > :14:31.violence. I am a very strong supporter of the second amendment

:14:32. > :14:35.and I don't know a salary was saying it in a sarcastic manner, but I am

:14:36. > :14:40.proud to have the endorsement of the NRA. It is the earliest endorsement

:14:41. > :14:44.they have ever given to anybody who ran for president so I am quite

:14:45. > :14:48.honoured by that. We are going to appoint justices, this is the best

:14:49. > :14:52.way to help the second amendment, we are going to appoint justices that

:14:53. > :14:57.will feel very strongly about the second amendment and will not do

:14:58. > :15:03.damage to it. Let's pick up on another issue which divides you. The

:15:04. > :15:09.justices, whoever ends up being appointed, it could affect that and

:15:10. > :15:14.that is the issue of abortion. Mr Trump, you are pro life. I would

:15:15. > :15:17.like to ask you specifically, do you want the court including the

:15:18. > :15:22.justices that you will name to overturn Rosie Wade which includes,

:15:23. > :15:27.in fact states, a woman's right to abortion.

:15:28. > :15:35.I think that would go back to the individual states. I am asking you

:15:36. > :15:40.specifically. If they overturn it it will go back to the States. Do you

:15:41. > :15:45.want to see the court overturned it? You said you want to see the second

:15:46. > :15:50.Amendment protected. What about this? If we put on another two or

:15:51. > :15:55.three justices, that is what will happen. It will happen

:15:56. > :15:59.automatically, in my opinion. I am putting pro life justices on the

:16:00. > :16:05.cord. I will say this, it will go back to the States and they will

:16:06. > :16:08.make a determination. I strongly support Roe v Wade which guarantees

:16:09. > :16:13.a constitutional right for a woman to make the most intimate, most

:16:14. > :16:19.difficult, in many cases, decisions about her health-care, that anyone

:16:20. > :16:23.can imagine. In this case it is not just about Roe v Wade, it is about

:16:24. > :16:30.what is happening right now in America. So many states are putting

:16:31. > :16:34.very stringent regulations on women that block them from exercising that

:16:35. > :16:39.choice, to the extent that they are defunding Planned Parenthood, which

:16:40. > :16:43.of course provides all kinds of cancer screenings and other benefit

:16:44. > :16:51.is for women in our country. Donald has said he is in favour of

:16:52. > :16:56.defunding Planned Parenthood. I will defend Planned Parenthood. I will

:16:57. > :17:00.defend Roe v Wade. And I will defend women's rights to make there own

:17:01. > :17:06.health-care decisions. We have come too far to have that turn back now.

:17:07. > :17:11.Indeed, he said women should be punished, that there should be some

:17:12. > :17:16.form of punishment for women who obtain abortions. And I could just

:17:17. > :17:21.not be more opposed to that kind of thinking. I will give you a chance

:17:22. > :17:24.to respond. I don't want to explore, Secretary Clinton, how far you feel

:17:25. > :17:36.the rights of abortion goes. You said the figures -- foeutus has no

:17:37. > :17:42.rights and you supported a ban on late term abortions. Roe v Wade Lily

:17:43. > :17:51.sets out there can be regulations on abortion so long as the health of

:17:52. > :17:57.the mother is taken into account. -- clearly. When I was voted in as a

:17:58. > :18:01.senator I did not think that was the case. The kind of cases that fall at

:18:02. > :18:07.the end of pregnancy are often the most heartbreaking, painful,

:18:08. > :18:10.decisions for families to make. I have been with women who towards the

:18:11. > :18:15.end of the pregnancy get the worst news they can get, there are health

:18:16. > :18:19.is in jeopardy if they continue to carry two term, or that something

:18:20. > :18:22.terrible has happened and they have just discovered it about the

:18:23. > :18:30.pregnancy. At think the US government should be stepping in and

:18:31. > :18:35.making those most personal of decisions. --. You can regulate if

:18:36. > :18:41.you are doing so with the life and health of the mother taken into

:18:42. > :18:45.account. What is your thought on the matter? I think it is terrible. In

:18:46. > :18:50.the ninth month you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the

:18:51. > :18:56.womb of the mother just prior to its birth. Now, you can say that that is

:18:57. > :19:01.OK, and Hillary Clinton can say that is OK, but it is not OK with me.

:19:02. > :19:06.Because based on what she is saying and based on where she is going and

:19:07. > :19:11.where she has been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the

:19:12. > :19:15.room in the ninth month, on the final day, and that is not

:19:16. > :19:20.acceptable. That is not what happens in these cases. Using that kind of

:19:21. > :19:24.scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. You should meet with

:19:25. > :19:28.some of the women I have met with, women I have known over the course

:19:29. > :19:34.of my life. This is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and

:19:35. > :19:37.her family has to make. And I do not believe the government should be

:19:38. > :19:41.making it. You know, have had the great honour of travelling across

:19:42. > :19:44.the world on behalf of our great country. I have been to countries

:19:45. > :19:49.where governments either force women to have abortions, like they used to

:19:50. > :19:53.do in China, or force women to bear children, like they do in Romania.

:19:54. > :19:57.And I can tell you that government has no business in the decisions

:19:58. > :20:02.that women make with their families in accordance with their faith and

:20:03. > :20:07.medical advice, and I will stand up for that right. OK. Just briefly...

:20:08. > :20:14.No one has business doing what I just said, doing that, as late as

:20:15. > :20:20.one or two or three days prior to birth. No one has that right. The

:20:21. > :20:23.subject of immigration. Almost no issue separate the two of you more

:20:24. > :20:27.than the issue of immigration. Actually...

:20:28. > :20:31.LAUGHING. There are many. Donald Trump, you want to build a wall.

:20:32. > :20:38.Secretary Clinton, you have no civic plan of how he wants to secure the

:20:39. > :20:41.southern border. -- specific. Donald Trump, you want the locations.

:20:42. > :20:47.Hillary Clinton says within 100 days, you will have a package of

:20:48. > :20:51.pathway to citizenship. The question is, why are you right and your

:20:52. > :20:55.opponent is wrong? Donald Trump, you go first and have two minutes

:20:56. > :20:58.popular amnesty is a disaster and is unfair to the people waiting in line

:20:59. > :21:05.for many years We need strong borders. In the audience tonight we

:21:06. > :21:10.have four mothers... I mean, these are unbelievable people that I have

:21:11. > :21:12.gotten to know over a period of years whose children have been

:21:13. > :21:16.brutally killed by people who came into the country illegally. There

:21:17. > :21:20.are thousands of mothers and fathers and relatives all over the country.

:21:21. > :21:25.They are coming in illegally. Drugs are pouring in through the border.

:21:26. > :21:28.We have no country if we have no border. Hillary Clinton wants

:21:29. > :21:34.amnesty and open borders. As you know, the border patrol agents,

:21:35. > :21:40.60,500, plus ICE last week, they have endorsed me, the first time

:21:41. > :21:45.they have endorsed a candidate. Their job is to the. They know more

:21:46. > :21:55.than anyone. They want strong borders. -- their job is tougher.

:21:56. > :21:58.The biggest complaint, many problems caused by Barack Obama and Bill

:21:59. > :22:03.Clinton, the biggest problem is her when, and it pours across our

:22:04. > :22:12.borders and is poisoning the blood of our youth and plenty of other

:22:13. > :22:15.people. -- heroin. We need strong borders and we need to keep drugs

:22:16. > :22:21.out of the country. They bring the drugs and they get the cash. We

:22:22. > :22:28.cannot give amnesty. Now, I want to build a wall. Everyone wants the

:22:29. > :22:33.wall. If we stop the drugs, we fixed the border. One of my first acts

:22:34. > :22:37.will be to get all of the drug lords and bad ones and bad people out of

:22:38. > :22:42.this country that have to go out. We will get them out and we will secure

:22:43. > :22:46.the border and once it is secured, at a later date we will make a

:22:47. > :22:52.determination as to the rest. But we have some bad hombres here and we

:22:53. > :22:59.will get them out. The same question to you. Are you right's is Donald

:23:00. > :23:04.Trump wrong? I was thinking about a young girl I met here in Las Vegas,

:23:05. > :23:07.Carla, who was very worried that her parents might be deported because

:23:08. > :23:12.she was born in this country but they were not. They work hard and

:23:13. > :23:19.they do everything they can to give her a good life. I don't want to rip

:23:20. > :23:23.families apart and send children away from parents. I do want to see

:23:24. > :23:29.the deportation force that Donald Trump has talked about in action in

:23:30. > :23:34.our country. -- don't want to. We have 11 million undocumented people.

:23:35. > :23:40.15 million people including the other 4 million. He said in Phoenix

:23:41. > :23:44.a week ago that every undocumented person would be subject to

:23:45. > :23:49.deportation. That means you would have to have a massive law

:23:50. > :23:53.enforcement presence where a law enforcement officers would go school

:23:54. > :23:57.to school and home to home and business to business rounding up

:23:58. > :24:01.people who are undocumented. And we would then have to put them on

:24:02. > :24:08.trains, on buses, to get out of our country. I think that is an idea

:24:09. > :24:12.that is not in keeping with who we are as a nation. I think it is an

:24:13. > :24:18.idea that would rip our country apart. I have been for border

:24:19. > :24:24.security for years and voted for it in the United States Senate. Mike

:24:25. > :24:30.Robinson plan of cost includes comprehensive security. -- my

:24:31. > :24:34.comprehensive. But I want resources where they are most needed. Getting

:24:35. > :24:37.rid of any violent person who should be deported, they should be

:24:38. > :24:42.deported. When it comes to the wall Donald Trump talked about making, he

:24:43. > :24:47.went to Mexico and talked to the Mexican president, he did not even

:24:48. > :24:52.raise it, he choked. Then he got in a Twitter war because the president

:24:53. > :24:57.said he would not build it. We are a nation of laws and we can act

:24:58. > :24:59.accordingly. That is why I am introducing comprehensive

:25:00. > :25:05.immigration reform within the first 100 days with a path to citizenship.

:25:06. > :25:11.Thank you, I want to follow up... Let me follow up. I had a good

:25:12. > :25:15.meeting with the President of Mexico. A very nice man. We will be

:25:16. > :25:18.doing very much better with Mexico on trade deals. Believe me. The

:25:19. > :25:23.NAFTA deal signed by her husband is one of the worst ever signed by

:25:24. > :25:28.anybody. A disaster. Hillary Clinton wanted the wall. Hillary Clinton

:25:29. > :25:33.fought for the wall in 2006 or thereabouts. Now, she never gets

:25:34. > :25:40.anything done, so naturally it wasn't built. But Hillary Clinton

:25:41. > :25:45.wanted the wall. Let me... Sir... Let me... No, wait a bit. I would

:25:46. > :25:54.like to hear from... It is... I want to hear from the Gerry Plant it. I

:25:55. > :25:58.voted for border security. A wall. There was going to be new technology

:25:59. > :26:05.and how best to deploy that, of course. But it is clear, when you

:26:06. > :26:11.look at how Donald Trump started, he started by calling them rapists and

:26:12. > :26:14.criminals and drug dealers. And he has a very different view about what

:26:15. > :26:20.we should do to deal with immigrants. Now, what I am also

:26:21. > :26:24.arguing is that bringing undocumented immigrants out from the

:26:25. > :26:27.shadows, putting them into the formal economy, will be good,

:26:28. > :26:40.because then employers cannot exploit them and undercut Americans'

:26:41. > :26:45.wages. He did that when he used them to build trumped us. And he said if

:26:46. > :26:49.a complaint he would deport them. I want to get everyone out of the

:26:50. > :26:54.shadows. -- Trump Tower. I don't want employers like Donald Trump

:26:55. > :27:00.exploiting Mexican workers and undercutting American workers.

:27:01. > :27:04.Barack Obama has moved millions of people out of this country. No one

:27:05. > :27:11.talks about it. She doesn't want to say that. That is what happened a

:27:12. > :27:16.big league. As far as moving these people out, we either have a country

:27:17. > :27:21.or not. We are a country of laws. We either have a border or we don't.

:27:22. > :27:25.You can come back in and become a citizen, but it is unfair. There are

:27:26. > :27:31.millions of people on line doing it the right way. We need to speed

:27:32. > :27:34.things up bigly. It is inefficient. It is unfair that someone runs

:27:35. > :27:39.across the border and becomes a citizen. You have open borders under

:27:40. > :27:44.her plan. You will have a disaster on trade and... We will... I will

:27:45. > :27:49.say that President Obama has deported millions and millions of

:27:50. > :27:57.people, just the way it is. We will not have open borders. That is a

:27:58. > :28:04.great life. We will have secure borders, but we will also have

:28:05. > :28:13.reformed. -- lie. The reason... Ronald Reagan and George Bush

:28:14. > :28:19.supported our way. In a speech he gave to a Brazilian bank for which

:28:20. > :28:25.you were paid $235,000, we learn from Wikileaks that you said this,

:28:26. > :28:30.my dream is a hemisphere Common Market with open borders.

:28:31. > :28:36.LAUGHING. That is the question. Be quiet, everybody. Is that your

:28:37. > :28:40.dream? Open borders? If you read the rest of the sentence I was talking

:28:41. > :28:44.about energy. You know, we trade more energy with our neighbours than

:28:45. > :28:50.we trade with the rest of the world combined. And I do want us to have

:28:51. > :28:54.an electric grid, and energy system, that crosses borders. I think that

:28:55. > :29:00.would be a great benefit to us. But you are very clearly quoting from

:29:01. > :29:03.Wikileaks. And what is very important about Wikileaks is that

:29:04. > :29:13.the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They

:29:14. > :29:16.have hacked American, umm, websites, American accounts of private people,

:29:17. > :29:21.of institutions, then they have given that information to Wikileaks

:29:22. > :29:25.for the purpose of putting it on the Internet. This has come from the

:29:26. > :29:30.highest levels of the Russian government, clearly from Putin

:29:31. > :29:34.himself, in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have

:29:35. > :29:37.confirmed, to influence our election. So I actually think the

:29:38. > :29:45.most important question of this evening, Chris, is finally, will

:29:46. > :29:49.Donald Trump admit and condemn that the Russians are doing this, and

:29:50. > :29:54.make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in this election.

:29:55. > :29:59.That he rejects Russian espionage against Americans, which he actually

:30:00. > :30:03.encouraged in the past. Does the questions we need answered to be we

:30:04. > :30:11.have never had anything happen like this in our elections before.

:30:12. > :30:20.That was an incredible pivot from the fact that she wants open

:30:21. > :30:25.borders. Please, can we keep it quiet for the candidates in the

:30:26. > :30:30.American people? Is she wants open borders. People will pour into our

:30:31. > :30:35.country. They will come in from Syria. She wants 550% more people

:30:36. > :30:39.than Barack Obama. He has thousands and thousands of people that no idea

:30:40. > :30:49.where they come from we are going to stop radical Islamic terrorists. She

:30:50. > :30:53.will not say those words and neither will Obama. I don't know Vladimir

:30:54. > :30:57.Putin. He said nice things about me. If we along well, that would be

:30:58. > :31:02.good. If Russia and the United States got along well and went after

:31:03. > :31:07.Isis, that would be good. He has no respect for her. He has no respect

:31:08. > :31:11.for our president and I tell you what, we are in serious trouble

:31:12. > :31:16.because we have a country with tremendous numbers of nuclear

:31:17. > :31:20.warheads, 1800, by the way, where they expanded and we didn't. 1800

:31:21. > :31:27.nuclear warheads and she is playing chicken. Look... Come from

:31:28. > :31:33.everything I see have no respect for this person. -- Vladimir Putin. That

:31:34. > :31:37.is because he would rather have a puppet as the President for the

:31:38. > :31:46.United States. Not a puppet. You are a puppet. It is clear that the

:31:47. > :31:50.Russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the United States.

:31:51. > :31:54.You have encouraged cyber attacks against our people. You are willing

:31:55. > :32:02.to spout the Vladimir Putin line. You continue to get help from

:32:03. > :32:07.Vladimir Putin because he has a very clear favourite in this race. I

:32:08. > :32:10.think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We have

:32:11. > :32:18.never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election.

:32:19. > :32:22.We have 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all

:32:23. > :32:27.concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks come

:32:28. > :32:31.from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to

:32:32. > :32:38.influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing... She has no idea

:32:39. > :32:45.whether it is Russia, China or anybody else. She has no idea.

:32:46. > :32:55.Hillary, you have no idea. Do you doubt it? Our country has no idea.

:32:56. > :33:01.He would rather believe Vladimir Putin than the people sworn to

:33:02. > :33:04.protect us. Here she does not like Vladimir Putin because he has

:33:05. > :33:14.outsmarted her at every step of the way. Vladimir Purdon has outsmarted

:33:15. > :33:19.her every step of the way. He's me. I to as questions as well. The top

:33:20. > :33:23.security officials of this country do believe that Russia has been

:33:24. > :33:26.behind these attacks. Even if you don't know for certain whether or

:33:27. > :33:34.not they are due condemn interference by Russia or anybody

:33:35. > :33:39.else in the American election? Of course I do. Russia or anybody else.

:33:40. > :33:43.Vladimir Putin is not my best friend. But if the United States got

:33:44. > :33:49.along with Russia, that would not be so bad. Vladimir has outsmarted her

:33:50. > :33:55.and Obama every single step of the way. You name it. Missiles. Take a

:33:56. > :33:59.look at the start of the bayside. The Russians have said, according to

:34:00. > :34:04.many, many reports, I cannot believe they allowed us to do this. They

:34:05. > :34:10.create warheads and we cannot. The Russians cannot believe it. She has

:34:11. > :34:15.been outsmarted by Putin. Just look at the Middle East where they have

:34:16. > :34:19.taken over. She has been outsmarted and outplayed worse than anybody I

:34:20. > :34:24.have ever seen in any government whatsoever. We are quite a long way

:34:25. > :34:32.away from immigration but I will let you finish this topic. You have 45

:34:33. > :34:35.seconds. And she always will be. I find it ironic that he is raising

:34:36. > :34:38.nuclear weapons. This is a person who has been quite cavalier and

:34:39. > :34:45.casual about the use of nuclear weapons. Wrong. He has advocated for

:34:46. > :34:51.more countries to get them. He wants to know why we don't use them which

:34:52. > :34:56.I think is terrifying. Here is the deal. The bottomline is that when

:34:57. > :35:01.the President gives the order it must be followed. There is about

:35:02. > :35:04.four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for

:35:05. > :35:11.launching nuclear weapons to do so. That is why ten people who have had

:35:12. > :35:15.that awesome responsibility have come out in an unprecedented way

:35:16. > :35:19.saying they would not trust Donald Trump with the nuclear codes or to

:35:20. > :35:25.have his finger on the nuclear button. I have 200 generals and

:35:26. > :35:28.admirals, 21 endorsing me. 21 Congressional medal of honour

:35:29. > :35:35.recipients. As far as Japan and other countries, we are being ripped

:35:36. > :35:39.off by everybody. We are defending other countries. We are spending a

:35:40. > :35:45.fortune doing it. They have the bargain of the century. All I said

:35:46. > :35:50.is that we need to renegotiate these agreements because our country

:35:51. > :35:55.cannot afford to defend South Korea, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Germany and

:35:56. > :35:59.many other places. Look, she has been proven to be a liar on so many

:36:00. > :36:08.different ways. This is just another lie. I am just quoting you. There

:36:09. > :36:18.is'. You will not find a quote for me. You said to go ahead and enjoy

:36:19. > :36:25.nuclear competition. To defend yourselves. I did not say... And

:36:26. > :36:29.defend yourself. The United States has kept the peace through our

:36:30. > :36:34.alliances. He wants to tear up those alliances. I think they make the

:36:35. > :36:42.world and the United States saver. I will work with our Asia allies. We

:36:43. > :36:46.are going to move on to the next topic which is the economy. I hope

:36:47. > :36:52.we handle that as as we did aggression. You also have a very

:36:53. > :36:57.different ideas about how to grow the economy. Secretary Clinton, in

:36:58. > :37:03.your plan government plays a big role. You see more government

:37:04. > :37:08.spending, more entitlements, more tax credits, more tax penalties. Mr

:37:09. > :37:14.trumpet you want government out with lower taxes and less regulation. --

:37:15. > :37:17.Mr Trump. In this overview, please explain to me why you believe your

:37:18. > :37:22.plan will create more jobs and growth for this country and your

:37:23. > :37:28.opponent's plan will not. You go first, Secretary Clinton. When the

:37:29. > :37:33.middle-class thrives, America thrives. My plan is based on growing

:37:34. > :37:37.the economy, giving middle-class families many more opportunities. I

:37:38. > :37:41.want us to have the biggest jobs programme since World War Two. Jobs

:37:42. > :37:44.and infrastructure, advanced manufacturing, I think we can

:37:45. > :37:48.compete with high wage countries and I believe we should. New jobs in

:37:49. > :37:52.clean energy not only to fight climate change which is a serious

:37:53. > :37:56.problem but to create new opportunities and new businesses. I

:37:57. > :38:00.want us to do more to help smart business, that is where most of the

:38:01. > :38:04.new jobs will come from. I want us to raise the national minimum wage

:38:05. > :38:07.is because people who live in poverty, who worked full-time,

:38:08. > :38:12.should not still be in poverty. And I want to make sure women get equal

:38:13. > :38:15.pay for the work we do. I feel strongly that we need an education

:38:16. > :38:19.system that starts with preschool and goes through college. That is

:38:20. > :38:24.why I want more technical education in high schools and community

:38:25. > :38:27.colleges. Real apprenticeships to prepare people for jobs of the

:38:28. > :38:32.future. I want to make college debt free and for families and making

:38:33. > :38:36.less than $125,000, you will not get a tuition bill for a public college

:38:37. > :38:40.or university of the plant I worked on with Bernie Sanders is enacted.

:38:41. > :38:45.We will work hard to make sure that it is because we are going to go

:38:46. > :38:49.where the money is. Most of the gains in the last years since the

:38:50. > :38:53.great recession have gone to the top. We are going to have the

:38:54. > :38:58.wealthy pay their fair share. We are going to have corporations make a

:38:59. > :39:01.contribution greater than they are now to our country. That is a plan

:39:02. > :39:05.that has been analysed by independent experts who have said

:39:06. > :39:12.that it could produce 10 million new jobs. By contrast, Donald's plan has

:39:13. > :39:16.been analysed to conclude it may lose 3.5 million jobs. Why? His

:39:17. > :39:21.whole plan is to cut taxes to give the biggest tax breaks and other to

:39:22. > :39:27.the wealthy and to corporations. Adding $20 trillion to our debt and

:39:28. > :39:31.causing the kind of dislocation that we have seen before. It truly will

:39:32. > :39:36.be trickle down economics on steroids. The plan I have will

:39:37. > :39:42.produce greater opportunities. The plan he has will cost jobs and lead

:39:43. > :39:49.to another great recession. Thank you. Mr Trump, why will your plan

:39:50. > :39:53.and create more jobs? Her plan is going to raise taxes and even double

:39:54. > :39:57.your taxes. Her tax plan is a disaster. And she can say or she

:39:58. > :40:02.wants about college tuition and I'm a big proponent, we are going to do

:40:03. > :40:06.a lot of things for college tuition, but the rest of the public will be

:40:07. > :40:10.paying for it. We will have a massive, massive tax increase under

:40:11. > :40:15.Hillary Clinton's plan. I would like to start where we left. When I said

:40:16. > :40:19.Japan and Germany and not just singling them out, South Korea,

:40:20. > :40:25.these are very rich powerful countries. Saudi Arabia... Nothing

:40:26. > :40:28.but money. We protect Saudi Arabia. Why are they paying? Immediately

:40:29. > :40:34.when she heard this I questioned it. And I questioned Nato. Are they not

:40:35. > :40:38.paying? Since I did this year ago all of a sudden they are paying. I

:40:39. > :40:44.have been given a lot of credit for it. All of the stars Sao Tome are

:40:45. > :40:48.starting to pay up. I am a big fan of Nato but they have to pay up. She

:40:49. > :40:53.comes out saying that we love our allies and we think they are great.

:40:54. > :40:56.It is hard to get them to pay up when you have somebody saying how

:40:57. > :41:00.great they think there. We have to tell Japan nicely, we had to tell

:41:01. > :41:06.Germany all of these countries, South Korea, we have to say you need

:41:07. > :41:10.to help us out. During his regime, during the regime of President Obama

:41:11. > :41:16.we have doubled our national debt. We are up to $20 trillion. In my

:41:17. > :41:20.plan we will renegotiate trade deal. We will have more free-trade than we

:41:21. > :41:24.have right now. Our deal is a horrible. I jobs are being taken up

:41:25. > :41:30.by NAFTA, one of the worst deals ever. Jobs are being sucked out of

:41:31. > :41:35.our economy. You look at all the places that I just left. Yukoner

:41:36. > :41:40.Pennsylvania, Ohio, upstate New York, Florida, our jobs have gone to

:41:41. > :41:44.Mexico and other places. We will bring jobs back. I will renegotiate

:41:45. > :41:47.NAFTA and if I can make a great deal than we will terminate NAFTA and

:41:48. > :41:51.create new deals. We will have trade. We will terminate it and we

:41:52. > :41:55.will make a great trade deal. And if we can't, we will go our separate

:41:56. > :42:01.ways because it has been a disaster. We will cut taxes, we will cut

:42:02. > :42:08.business tax, they will start hiring people. The Wii will bring offshore

:42:09. > :42:11.money back into the country. We will start the engine rolling again

:42:12. > :42:22.because right now our country is dying at 1% GDP. Could I translate

:42:23. > :42:26.that? You cannot. He is going to advocate for the largest tax cuts

:42:27. > :42:29.you have ever seen. Three times more than the tax cuts under the Bush

:42:30. > :42:34.administration. I have said repeatedly throughout this campaign

:42:35. > :42:39.that I will not raise taxes on anyone making $250,000 or less. I

:42:40. > :42:43.also will not add a penny to the debt. I have costed out what I am

:42:44. > :42:48.going to do. He will come through his massive tax cuts, add $20

:42:49. > :42:52.trillion to the debt. He mentioned the debt. Winner how to get control

:42:53. > :42:57.of that. When my husband was President we want from a $300

:42:58. > :43:04.billion deficit to a $200 billion surplus and were on the path to

:43:05. > :43:08.eliminating the debt. When President Obama came in he inherited a

:43:09. > :43:13.terrible economic deficit. He has cut the deficit by two thirds. One

:43:14. > :43:17.of the wafer you go after debt and one of the ways you create jobs is

:43:18. > :43:21.by investing in people. I do have investments. Investment in new jobs.

:43:22. > :43:25.Investment in education, skill training and the opportunities for

:43:26. > :43:31.people to get ahead and stay ahead. That is the kind of approach...

:43:32. > :43:36.Secretary. We have tried cutting taxes on the wealthy and it has not

:43:37. > :43:40.worked in the way it has been thought to. I would like to pursue

:43:41. > :43:46.your plan because in many ways it is similar to the Obama stimulus plan

:43:47. > :43:55.in 2009. Which has led to the slowest GDP growth since 1949.

:43:56. > :43:59.Correct. Thank you, sir. You told me in July that the problem is that

:44:00. > :44:03.President Obama did not get to do enough in what he was trying to do

:44:04. > :44:07.with the stimulus. If your plan basically even more of the Obama

:44:08. > :44:14.stimulus? It is a combination. Let me say that when you inherit the

:44:15. > :44:20.level of economic catastrophe that President Obama inherited it was a

:44:21. > :44:24.real touch and go situation. I was in the Senate, before it became

:44:25. > :44:30.Secretary of State. I have never seen people as physically distraught

:44:31. > :44:34.as the Bush administration team was because of what was happening to the

:44:35. > :44:41.economy. I personally believe that the steps that President Obama talk

:44:42. > :44:44.save the economy. He doesn't get the credit he deserves for taking some

:44:45. > :44:49.very hard positions. It was a terrible recession. So now we dug

:44:50. > :44:55.ourselves out of it, we are standing but we are not yet running. So what

:44:56. > :45:00.I am proposing is that we invest from the middle out and the ground

:45:01. > :45:05.up. Not the top down. That is not going to work. That is why what I

:45:06. > :45:09.have put forward will not add a penny to the debt but it is the kind

:45:10. > :45:13.of approach that will enable more people to take those new jobs, jobs

:45:14. > :45:18.with higher wages, we are beginning to see increasing incomes and we

:45:19. > :45:22.have certainly had a long string of increasing jobs. We have got to do

:45:23. > :45:25.more to get the whole economy moving and that is what I believe will be

:45:26. > :45:37.able to do. Even Conservatives say you don't add

:45:38. > :45:43.up with your statistics. 25 million jobs. It is unrealistic. They say

:45:44. > :45:49.you talk about growing the energy industry. With oil prices as low as

:45:50. > :45:54.they are, that is unrealistic as well. Your response. I have left

:45:55. > :45:59.some high Representatives of India. They are growing at 8%. China is

:46:00. > :46:04.growing at 7%. That is a catastrophically low number for

:46:05. > :46:10.them. We are growing, the last report came out, at 1%. It is going

:46:11. > :46:17.down, I think. At the end of last week, they came out with an anaemic

:46:18. > :46:21.jobs report, a terrible jobs report. I said, is that the last one before

:46:22. > :46:25.the election, I should win easily, it was so bad. The report was so

:46:26. > :46:31.bad. Look, our country is staggering. We have lost jobs and

:46:32. > :46:36.businesses. We are not making things any more, relatively speaking. Our

:46:37. > :46:41.products are pouring in from China and Vietnam and all over the world.

:46:42. > :46:45.I have visited so many communities. This has been such an important

:46:46. > :46:50.education for me. Dai Havard at so many friends over the last year. --

:46:51. > :46:58.I have developed. They cried when they see what happened. Because of

:46:59. > :47:03.the bill her husband signed and she blessed 100%, it is horrible what is

:47:04. > :47:08.happening to these people in these communities. She can say her husband

:47:09. > :47:13.did well. But boy did they suffer when NAFTA kicked in. It kicked in

:47:14. > :47:17.after they left. Boy did they suffer. That was one of the worst

:47:18. > :47:24.things ever signed by our country. Now she wants the Trans-Pacific

:47:25. > :47:28.Partnership. She lied when she said she didn't call it the gold

:47:29. > :47:33.standard. They fact checked and they said I was right! I will give you a

:47:34. > :47:36.chance to briefly speak to that. Then I want to give it to the

:47:37. > :47:43.economy, Obamacare, specifically. Briefly. Let me say, number one,

:47:44. > :47:47.when I saw the final agreement for the Trans-Pacific Partnership, I

:47:48. > :47:56.said it was not for me. I was against it. Does it creates jobs? I

:47:57. > :48:00.will be against it when I am president. The only person on this

:48:01. > :48:05.stage who has shipped jobs to Mexico is Donald Trump. He has shipped to

:48:06. > :48:10.12 countries, including China. One of the problems we have with China

:48:11. > :48:19.is the illegal dumping of steel and aluminium in our markets. I fought

:48:20. > :48:24.against that as senator and Secretary of State. The Donald Trump

:48:25. > :48:29.hotel was made with Chinese steel. He goes around with crocodile tears

:48:30. > :48:33.about how terrible it is but he has given jobs to Chinese steel workers,

:48:34. > :48:37.not American ones. That is not going to work. We will pull the country

:48:38. > :48:42.together and have trade agreements that we enforce. That is why I will

:48:43. > :48:46.have a trade prosecutor for the first time in history. We are going

:48:47. > :48:50.to enforce those agreements and we will look for businesses to help us

:48:51. > :48:54.by buying American products. Donald Trump. I asked a simple question.

:48:55. > :49:00.She has been doing this for 30 years, why the hell did not you do

:49:01. > :49:06.it over the last... Well... Excuse me, might turn. You were very much

:49:07. > :49:10.involved in every aspect of this country, and you do have experience.

:49:11. > :49:14.That is the one thing you have over me. But it is bad experience.

:49:15. > :49:19.Everything has turned out badly. For the 30 years you have been in

:49:20. > :49:23.position to help, and if you say I used to do this and that... You make

:49:24. > :49:27.it impossible for me to do that. I wouldn't mind. The problem is you

:49:28. > :49:33.talk but don't get anything done, Hillary. You don't. Just like when

:49:34. > :49:37.you ran the State Department, $6 billion is missing. How do you lose

:49:38. > :49:42.that? You round the State Department. $6 billion was either

:49:43. > :49:47.stolen... We don't know. It is gone. $6 billion! If you become president,

:49:48. > :49:52.this country is going to be in some mass, believe me. Well, first of

:49:53. > :49:56.all, what he just said about the State Department, is not only in

:49:57. > :50:01.true, it has been debunked numerous times, it is really an important

:50:02. > :50:07.issues he raised, the 30 years of experience the polemic talk briefly

:50:08. > :50:13.about that. You know, back in the 1970s I worked for the defence fund.

:50:14. > :50:17.I was helping African children in schools and he was being sued by the

:50:18. > :50:21.Justice Department for the scammer nation in his department building.

:50:22. > :50:24.In the 1980s I was working to reform the schools in Arkansas. He was

:50:25. > :50:32.borrowing $40 million from his father to write is Mrs. In the 1990s

:50:33. > :50:38.I went to Beijing to help with human rights. He called a former Miss

:50:39. > :50:43.Universe and eating machine. And when I was in the situation room

:50:44. > :50:50.monitoring the rate they brought Osama Bin Laden to justice, he was

:50:51. > :50:55.hosting The Celebrity Apprentice. I am happy to compare our experience.

:50:56. > :50:58.I tried to help in every way I could, especially children and

:50:59. > :51:03.families getting ahead and staying ahead. I will let the American

:51:04. > :51:08.people compared us and make that decision. I build a great company,

:51:09. > :51:12.some of the best assets anywhere in the world worth many many billions

:51:13. > :51:18.of dollars. I started with a $1 million alone. I agree. A $1 million

:51:19. > :51:31.loan. -- loan. I built a phenomenal country. If I run the country the

:51:32. > :51:35.way I ran my company, even you would be proud of it. Take a look at Syria

:51:36. > :51:39.and migration and Libya and Iraq. Look at what you did. She gave us

:51:40. > :51:44.Islamic State. Obama and Hillary Clinton created the vacuum that

:51:45. > :51:49.caused Islamic State. We should never have been in Iraq. Once we

:51:50. > :51:53.were there we should have never got out the way they wanted to get out

:51:54. > :51:57.to be she gave us Islamic State as sure as you are sitting there. What

:51:58. > :52:02.happened is that now Islamic State is in 32 countries. And now she will

:52:03. > :52:06.get rid of them? She will get rid of nobody. All right... We will get to

:52:07. > :52:10.foreign hotspots in a few moments. But the next segment is fitness to

:52:11. > :52:15.be President of the United States. Donald Trump, at the last debate you

:52:16. > :52:21.said your talk about grabbing women was just that, talk, and that you

:52:22. > :52:25.had never done it. And since then, as we all know, nine women have come

:52:26. > :52:33.forward and said that you either great -- groped them or kissed them

:52:34. > :52:37.without your consent. Why would so many different women from so many

:52:38. > :52:42.different circumcise is over so many different years, why would they all

:52:43. > :52:48.in these past weeks make up these stories? -- circumstances. And

:52:49. > :52:51.because this is a question for both of you, Secretary Clinton, what

:52:52. > :52:57.Donald Trump says your husband did and you defend it was even worse.

:52:58. > :53:01.Donald Trump, you go first. Those theories have been debunked. I don't

:53:02. > :53:07.know those people. I have a feeling that it was her campaign that did

:53:08. > :53:13.it. Just like what came out today where I was wondering, what happened

:53:14. > :53:17.with my rally in Chicago and other rallies where we had such violence.

:53:18. > :53:22.She is the one that caused the violent. Her and Obama paid people

:53:23. > :53:28.hundreds of dollars to be violent and cause fights and do bad things.

:53:29. > :53:32.I would say... Those stories are totally false. I did not even

:53:33. > :53:36.apologise to my wife, who were sitting right here, because it

:53:37. > :53:39.didn't do anything. I don't know any of these women. I did not see these

:53:40. > :53:45.women. These women, the wannabe plain... I think they want either

:53:46. > :53:49.fame or her campaign did it. And I think it is her campaign. Because

:53:50. > :53:54.when I saw what they did, which is a criminal act, by the way, where they

:53:55. > :53:57.are telling people to go out and start fistfights and start violence,

:53:58. > :54:01.and I tell you what, in particular, in Chicago, people were hurt and

:54:02. > :54:07.could have been killed. That is now all on tape. It was started by her.

:54:08. > :54:11.I believe, Chris, that she got these top of the table to step forward. If

:54:12. > :54:18.it wasn't, they get their ten minutes of fame. -- these people.

:54:19. > :54:23.But it was all lies and fiction. Secretary Clinton. Well, at the last

:54:24. > :54:29.debate, we heard Donald Trump talking about what he did to women.

:54:30. > :54:34.And after that, a number of women have come forward saying that is

:54:35. > :54:39.exactly what he did to them. Now, what was his response? Well, he held

:54:40. > :54:44.a number of big rallies where he said that he could not possibly have

:54:45. > :54:50.done those things to those women because they were not attractive

:54:51. > :54:57.enough... I... I did not say that. I did not say that! In fact... It is

:54:58. > :55:02.her team in its. I did not say that! He went on to say, look at her, I

:55:03. > :55:09.don't think so. About another woman he said this, that wouldn't be my

:55:10. > :55:12.first choice. He attacked the woman reporter writing the story, calling

:55:13. > :55:17.her disgusting, as he has called a number of women during this

:55:18. > :55:22.campaign. Donald Trump thinks belittling women makes him bigger.

:55:23. > :55:27.He goes after their dignity, there self worth, and I don't think there

:55:28. > :55:32.is a woman anywhere who does not know what that feels like. So we now

:55:33. > :55:37.know what Donald Trump thinks and what he says and how he acts towards

:55:38. > :55:42.women. That is who Donald Trump is. I think it is really up to all of us

:55:43. > :55:49.to demonstrate who we are and who our country is and to stand up and

:55:50. > :55:54.be very clear about what we expect from our next president, how we want

:55:55. > :56:01.to bring our country together, where we don't want to have the kind of

:56:02. > :56:08.pitting of people won against the other, where instead we celebrate

:56:09. > :56:12.diversity and lift people up. -- one. And we can make our country

:56:13. > :56:17.even greater. America is great because America is good. And it

:56:18. > :56:21.really is up to all of us to make that true, now and in the future,

:56:22. > :56:25.and particularly for our children and our grandchildren. Donald

:56:26. > :56:32.Trump... Nobody has more respect for women than I do. No one. Nobody has

:56:33. > :56:36.more respect. Please, everybody. And, frankly, those stories have

:56:37. > :56:40.been largely deprived. And I really want to just talk about something

:56:41. > :56:48.slightly different. She mentions this, which is all fiction, all

:56:49. > :56:56.fictionalised. Probably or possibly started by her and her, very sleazy,

:56:57. > :56:59.campaign. What is an fictionalised is her e-mails where she destroyed

:57:00. > :57:05.the do you thousand e-mails criminally after getting a subpoena

:57:06. > :57:10.from the United States Congress. -- 33,000. What happened to the FBI? I

:57:11. > :57:17.don't know. We have a great general, four stars, he will serve five years

:57:18. > :57:26.in jail for lying to the FBI. One lie. She has lied hundreds of times

:57:27. > :57:32.the people, the Congress, and to the FBI. He is going to go to jail. This

:57:33. > :57:36.is a 4-star general! And she gets away with it? And she can run for

:57:37. > :57:39.the presidency of the United States? That is really what you should be

:57:40. > :57:44.talking about, not fiction, where somebody who wants fame, or where

:57:45. > :57:51.they come out of her crooked campaign. Secretary Clinton. Well,

:57:52. > :57:56.every time Donald is pushed on something, which is obviously

:57:57. > :58:01.uncomfortable, like what these women are saying, he immediately goes to,

:58:02. > :58:08.umm, denying responsibility. And it is just about women. He never

:58:09. > :58:12.apologises or says he is sorry for anything. So we know what he has

:58:13. > :58:17.said and what he has done to women, but he also, he went after a

:58:18. > :58:28.disabled reporter, mocking and mimicking them on television. Wrong.

:58:29. > :58:34.He went after Mr Khan, a man who died serving our country, because of

:58:35. > :58:39.his religion. He went after John McCain, because he says he prefers

:58:40. > :58:46.heroes that aren't captured. And he went after a Federal judge born in

:58:47. > :58:51.Indiana that he said could not be trusted to trail the case against

:58:52. > :58:56.Trump University because his parents are Mexican. It is not just one

:58:57. > :59:01.thing. This is pattern a of divisiveness, of a very dark and in

:59:02. > :59:04.many ways dangerous vision of our country, where he incites violence,

:59:05. > :59:08.where he applauds people who are pushing and pulling and punching at

:59:09. > :59:14.his rallies. That is not to a America is. And I hope that, as we

:59:15. > :59:21.move in the last weeks of his campaign, more and more people will

:59:22. > :59:25.understand what is at stake in this election. It really comes down to

:59:26. > :59:28.what kind of country we are going to have. So sad when she talks about

:59:29. > :59:34.violent at my rallies, yet she caused it. It is Ontake. The other

:59:35. > :59:38.things are false. But I would love to talk about getting rid of Islamic

:59:39. > :59:40.State and I would love to talk about other things. But those other

:59:41. > :59:55.charges, as she knows, are false. Where the to ten days. Questions

:59:56. > :00:02.from the American people. In 2009, it Secretary Clinton, you promise to

:00:03. > :00:08.avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest with the Clinton

:00:09. > :00:15.foundation. But e-mail assured the donors received access to you.

:00:16. > :00:22.Donors looking for relief or hate his were considered separately. Can

:00:23. > :00:27.you really say that you kept your pledge of to the Senate committee

:00:28. > :00:36.and why is what went on between you and the Clinton foundation, why is

:00:37. > :00:39.it not pay to play? Everything I did a Secretary of State was in

:00:40. > :00:43.furtherance of the interest of our country and our values. Our State

:00:44. > :00:47.Department has said that and I think that has been proven. But I am

:00:48. > :00:51.happy. I am throbbed to talk about the Clinton foundation because it is

:00:52. > :00:54.a world renowned charity and I am so proud of the work that it does. I

:00:55. > :00:59.could talk for the rest of the debate. I know I do not have the

:01:00. > :01:02.time to do that. But just briefly the Clinton foundation made it

:01:03. > :01:08.possible for 11 million people around the world with HIV/Aids to

:01:09. > :01:11.afford treatment. That is about half of all the people in the world

:01:12. > :01:17.receiving treatment. In partnership with the American health Association

:01:18. > :01:22.we have made environment in schools healthier for years. Respectfully,

:01:23. > :01:29.this is an open discussion. But the specific question was about pay to

:01:30. > :01:34.play. I think that has been very... That has been very well studied. And

:01:35. > :01:40.it is a criminal enterprise. Please let Mr Trump finish. It is a

:01:41. > :01:44.criminal enterprise. Saudi Arabia giving $25 million. Qatar, all of

:01:45. > :01:48.these countries. You talk about women and women's rights. These are

:01:49. > :01:53.people who push gay people off buildings. These are people who kill

:01:54. > :01:57.women and treat women horribly. And yet you take their money. I would

:01:58. > :02:01.like to ask you right now why don't you give back the money that you

:02:02. > :02:06.have taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people

:02:07. > :02:10.so horribly? Why do you return the money? I think that would be a great

:02:11. > :02:15.gesture. She takes a tremendous amount of money and you have a look

:02:16. > :02:19.at the people of Haiti. I was in Little Haiti the other day in

:02:20. > :02:22.Florida and I want to tell you that they hate the Clintons because what

:02:23. > :02:26.has happened in Haiti with the Clinton foundation is a disgrace.

:02:27. > :02:32.And you know it and they know it and everybody knows it. Secretary

:02:33. > :02:37.Clinton. We at the foundation spent 90% of all the money that is donated

:02:38. > :02:41.on behalf of programmes of people around the world and in our own

:02:42. > :02:45.country. I am very proud of that. We have the highest rating from the

:02:46. > :02:49.watchdogs that follow foundations. And I would be happy to compare what

:02:50. > :02:54.we do with the Trump foundation which took money from other people

:02:55. > :03:00.and purchased a 6-foot portrait of Donald. Who does that? When it comes

:03:01. > :03:03.to Haiti, Haiti is the poorest country in our hemisphere. The

:03:04. > :03:08.earthquake and the Hurricane aims it has devastated Haiti. Ill and I have

:03:09. > :03:12.been involved in trying to help Haiti for many years. The Clinton

:03:13. > :03:17.foundation raised $30 million to help Haiti after the catastrophic

:03:18. > :03:21.earthquake and all of the terrible problems that people they have. We

:03:22. > :03:25.have done things to help small businesses, agriculture is so much

:03:26. > :03:30.else. We will keep working to help Haiti because it is an important

:03:31. > :03:34.part of the American experience. They don't want help any more. I

:03:35. > :03:39.would like to mention one thing. The Trump foundation is a small

:03:40. > :03:43.foundation. People contribute, I contribute. 100% of our money goes

:03:44. > :03:48.to charities including military charity. I don't buy votes, I don't

:03:49. > :03:53.buy planes. The money goes on... Wasn't for the money used to settle

:03:54. > :03:58.your lawsuit? No. We put up the American flag and that is it. We

:03:59. > :04:03.fought for the ride on the Palm Beach to put up the American flag.

:04:04. > :04:07.The county imposed a penalty. You are paying that out of your

:04:08. > :04:12.foundation? The money went to fish a house where they build houses, that

:04:13. > :04:18.money went to fish a house where they build houses for veterans. Of

:04:19. > :04:22.course there is no way we can know whether any of that is true because

:04:23. > :04:26.he has not released his tax returns. He is the first candidate to run for

:04:27. > :04:31.president in the last 40 years was not released his tax returns. So

:04:32. > :04:35.anything he says about charity or anything else cannot be proved. You

:04:36. > :04:40.can see a tax returns, we have put them out there. What is troubling is

:04:41. > :04:44.that we learned in the last debate he has not paid a penny in federal

:04:45. > :04:50.income tax. We were talking about immigrants a few minutes ago, Chris.

:04:51. > :04:54.Yeah, half of all immigrants, undocumented immigrants in our

:04:55. > :04:57.country actually paid totalling contacts. We have undocumented

:04:58. > :05:03.immigrants in America who are paying more federal income tax than a

:05:04. > :05:06.billion now. Let me tell you very simply. We are entitled because of

:05:07. > :05:09.the laws that people like her past to take massive amounts of

:05:10. > :05:15.depreciation on other charges so we do it. And all of your donors, just

:05:16. > :05:19.about all of them, at another George Soros who took hundreds of millions

:05:20. > :05:23.of dollars. Let me just explain. All of her donors, most of her donors

:05:24. > :05:27.have done the same thing. And you now what she should have done? What

:05:28. > :05:32.you should have done, you should have changed the law when you were a

:05:33. > :05:36.senator. Your donors are your special interest are doing the same

:05:37. > :05:41.interest as I do except even more so. You should have changed the law

:05:42. > :05:44.but you will not change the law because you taken so much money. I

:05:45. > :05:55.sat in my apartment today on a very beautiful hotel down the street made

:05:56. > :06:03.with Chinese steel. . Made with Chinese still, it was. I watched out

:06:04. > :06:06.after ad made by your friends on Wall Street attacking me because

:06:07. > :06:10.they know you are going to protect them. If you don't like Watto you

:06:11. > :06:15.should have changed the law. Let me ask you one last question. You have

:06:16. > :06:20.been warning at rallies recently that this election is rigged and

:06:21. > :06:26.that Hillary Clinton is in the process of trying to steal it from

:06:27. > :06:32.you. You're running mate pledged on Sunday that he and you, his words,

:06:33. > :06:37.will absolutely accept the result of this election. Today your daughter

:06:38. > :06:43.said the same thing. I want to ask you hear on this stage tonight, do

:06:44. > :06:48.you make the same promise that you will absolutely accept the result of

:06:49. > :06:52.this election? I will look at it at the time. I am not looking at

:06:53. > :06:56.anything now, I will look at it at that time. What I have seen is so

:06:57. > :07:00.bad. First of all, the media is so dishonest and soap that corrupt and

:07:01. > :07:05.that Taiwan is so amazing that the New York Times wrote an article

:07:06. > :07:09.about it. They don't even care. They have poison the minds of the voters.

:07:10. > :07:13.Unfortunately for them I think the voters are seeing through it. We

:07:14. > :07:18.will find out on November eight but I think they see through it. Excuse

:07:19. > :07:23.me, Chris. If you look at your voter rolls you will see millions of

:07:24. > :07:28.people that are registered to vote, millions. This is not coming from

:07:29. > :07:31.me, this is coming from here report and other places. Millions of people

:07:32. > :07:36.registered to vote on who should not be registered to vote. So let me

:07:37. > :07:39.just give you one other thing. I speak about the corrupt media, I

:07:40. > :07:46.talk about millions of people. One other thing. She should not be

:07:47. > :07:50.allowed to run. She is guilty of a very, very serious crime. She should

:07:51. > :07:57.not be allowed to run. And just in that respect I say it is rigged. She

:07:58. > :08:01.should never, Chris, she should never have been allowed to run for

:08:02. > :08:06.the presidency based on what she did with e-mail 's and so many other

:08:07. > :08:09.things. There is a tradition in this country, one of the pride of this

:08:10. > :08:15.country, is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how the

:08:16. > :08:18.hardfought campaign is that at the end of the campaign the loser

:08:19. > :08:21.concedes to the winner, not saying that you necessarily will be the

:08:22. > :08:25.loser all the winner, but that deal loser concedes to the winner and

:08:26. > :08:29.that the country comes together in parts of the country. Are you saying

:08:30. > :08:34.you are not prepared now to do that? I will tell you at the time. I will

:08:35. > :08:40.keep you in suspense. May I respond? That is horrifying. Everytime Donald

:08:41. > :08:46.thinks things are not going his direction he claims, whatever it is

:08:47. > :08:49.is ringed against him. The FBI conducted a year-long investigation

:08:50. > :08:55.into my e-mail 's and concluded there was no case. He said the FBI

:08:56. > :08:59.was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus and the Wisconsin primary. He said

:09:00. > :09:04.the Republican primary was rigged against him. And then Trump

:09:05. > :09:09.university gets food. He claims the court system and the Federal judges

:09:10. > :09:15.are rigged against him. -- Trump university gets sued. At one point

:09:16. > :09:24.he did not get an Emmy and he started tweeting that the enemies

:09:25. > :09:30.were rigged. -- the enemy the Emmy awards were rigged. That is not the

:09:31. > :09:35.way our democracy works. We have been around for 240 years and that's

:09:36. > :09:42.free and fair elections. You have accepted election outcomes and that

:09:43. > :09:46.is what must be expected of anybody standing on a debate stage during a

:09:47. > :09:52.general election. President Obama said the other day when you are

:09:53. > :09:57.whining let us hold on, folks. It shows that you are not up to doing

:09:58. > :10:03.the job. Let's be clear about what he is saying. He is denigrating, he

:10:04. > :10:07.is talking down our democracy and I for one am appalled that somebody's

:10:08. > :10:13.who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind

:10:14. > :10:16.of position. What the FBI did and what the Department of Justice did

:10:17. > :10:20.including meeting with her husband, the attorney general in the back of

:10:21. > :10:25.an aeroplane on the tarmac in Arizona, I think it is disgraceful.

:10:26. > :10:31.I think it is a disgrace. We had a situation... Hold on, folks. This

:10:32. > :10:35.does not do any good for anybody. Let's move on to the subject of

:10:36. > :10:51.foreign hotspots. The Iraqi offensive to take back Motorschool

:10:52. > :10:55.has begun. -- Mosul. The question then is what happens the day after

:10:56. > :11:00.this succeeds. Whoever becomes president will need to confront

:11:01. > :11:04.this. Will you put US troops into that vacuum to make sure that Isis

:11:05. > :11:13.does not return or is replaced by something worse? Secretary Clinton,

:11:14. > :11:18.you are first full. I am encouraged that there is an effort led by the

:11:19. > :11:23.Iraqi army, supported by Kurdish forces and also given the help and

:11:24. > :11:27.advice from the number of special forces and other Americans on the

:11:28. > :11:32.ground but I will not support putting American soldiers into Iraq

:11:33. > :11:37.as an occupying force. I don't think that is in our interest and I don't

:11:38. > :11:41.think that would be smart to do. In fact I think that would be a big red

:11:42. > :11:47.flags waving for Isis to reconstitute itself. The goal here

:11:48. > :11:51.is to take back Mosul. It will be a hard fight and I have no illusions

:11:52. > :12:00.about that and then continue to press into Syria to begin to take

:12:01. > :12:04.back and move on the Isis headquarters of Raqqa. I hope that

:12:05. > :12:08.the hard work of American military advisers will pay off and we will

:12:09. > :12:13.see a successful military operations. But we know we have got

:12:14. > :12:20.a lot of work to do. Syria will remain a hotbed of terrorism as long

:12:21. > :12:23.as the civil war aided and abetted by the Iranians and the Russians

:12:24. > :12:28.continues. So I have said, look, we need to keep our eye on Isis. That

:12:29. > :12:33.is why I want an intelligence surge of that protects us here at home. We

:12:34. > :12:37.need to go after them from the air, online, on the ground. We need to

:12:38. > :12:41.make sure here in time we do not allow terrorists to buy weapons. If

:12:42. > :12:46.you are too dangerous to fly you are too dangerous to purchase a gun. And

:12:47. > :12:50.I will continue to push for a no-fly zone and safe havens within Syria

:12:51. > :12:54.not only to help protect the Syrians and present the constant flow of

:12:55. > :12:58.refugees but to frankly gain similar bridge on both the Syrian government

:12:59. > :13:03.and the Russian so that perhaps we can have the kind of serious

:13:04. > :13:08.negotiation necessary to bring the conflict to an end and go forward on

:13:09. > :13:14.the political Trail. Same question, Mr Trump. If we are able to push

:13:15. > :13:20.Isis out of Mosul would you be willing to pull US troops in there

:13:21. > :13:28.to prevent their return? It is so sad. We had Mosul. When she left,

:13:29. > :13:34.when she took everybody else out we lost Mosul. The problem with Mosul

:13:35. > :13:38.and what they wanted to do was they wanted to get the leaders of Isis

:13:39. > :13:42.who they sold were in Mosul. About three months ago I started reading

:13:43. > :13:47.that they wanted to get the leaders. And they were going to attack Mosul.

:13:48. > :13:52.Whatever happened to the element of surprise? We announce we are going

:13:53. > :13:56.after Mosul. I have been reading about that now for three months.

:13:57. > :14:01.They already left. They all left. The element of surprise, Douglas

:14:02. > :14:09.MacArthur, George Patton, spinning in their graves when they see the

:14:10. > :14:13.stupidity of our country. We are now fighting for Mosul, that we had. All

:14:14. > :14:18.she had to do was stay there. Now we are going in again. The big winner

:14:19. > :14:22.in Mosul after we eventually get it, the only reason they did it is

:14:23. > :14:25.because she is running for the office of president. They want to

:14:26. > :14:30.look tough. They want to look good. They violated the redline the sand

:14:31. > :14:34.and made so many mistakes. That is why we have the great migration. She

:14:35. > :14:39.wanted to look good for the election. But who is going to get

:14:40. > :14:42.Mosul? We will take it eventually. By the way, if you look at what

:14:43. > :14:46.happened, far more difficult than they thought. Final tougher, far

:14:47. > :14:52.more difficult. But the leaders we wanted to get are all gone because

:14:53. > :14:56.they are smart. They said what do we need this for? Don't Mosul is going

:14:57. > :15:01.to be a wonderful thing and Iran should ride is a letter of thank

:15:02. > :15:06.you. The stupidest deal of all time, a deal that is going to give you run

:15:07. > :15:11.absolutely nuclear weapons. Iran write as yet another letter saying

:15:12. > :15:16.thank you very much. Because in round, as I said many years ago, a

:15:17. > :15:20.round is taking over Iraq. Something they had wanted to do for ever but

:15:21. > :15:24.now we have made it easy for them. We are able to take most will and

:15:25. > :15:29.you know who will be the beneficiary area? Iran?. They are outsmarting...

:15:30. > :15:32.You are not there, you may be involved in that decision but you

:15:33. > :15:38.were there when you took everybody out of Mosul and out of Iraq. You

:15:39. > :15:41.should have been in a rap that you did vote for it. Once you were in

:15:42. > :15:45.Iraq you shouldn't have never left. The point is the big threat is going

:15:46. > :15:57.to be Iran. Once again Donald Trump is saying he

:15:58. > :16:06.did not support the invasion of Iraq. Wrong. He clearly supported

:16:07. > :16:11.it. Everyone, go Google Donald Trump and Iraq. You will see the dozens of

:16:12. > :16:17.sources which verify that he was for the invasion of Iraq. Wrong. Over

:16:18. > :16:26.you can actually hear the audio of that. -- you can. Why is that

:16:27. > :16:31.matter? He has not told the truth. He wants to look better in contrast

:16:32. > :16:39.with me because I did vote for it. What is important is to understand

:16:40. > :16:47.the interplay. Mosul is a Sunni city on the border with Syria. And, yes,

:16:48. > :16:58.we do need to go against Baghdad in are that -- al-Baghdadi likely went

:16:59. > :17:04.after Osama Bin Laden. But we need to get rid of their fighters in

:17:05. > :17:09.Mosul. It will be a tough fight. I think we can take back Mosul and

:17:10. > :17:14.then move on into Syria to take back Raqqa. This is what we have to do. I

:17:15. > :17:18.am just amazed that it seems to think the Iraqi government and our

:17:19. > :17:22.allies and everyone else launched the attack on Mosul to help me in

:17:23. > :17:27.this election. But that is how Donald Trump thinks. He is all is

:17:28. > :17:33.looking for something... We don't need anything. Iran is taking over

:17:34. > :17:40.Iraq. Secretary Clinton... Iran is taking over Iraq. They would have...

:17:41. > :17:45.Wait, wait. It is an open discussion. And he says... Secretary

:17:46. > :17:52.Clinton, let them finish... Everytime. Wikileaks. Wikileaks just

:17:53. > :18:03.said some horrible things about you. And boy was the right. Wiki leaks

:18:04. > :18:16.said some beauties. Bernie Sanders was right. All the leaders are gone.

:18:17. > :18:20.If you think that is... Bernie Sanders said he had bad judgement. I

:18:21. > :18:28.agree with you on. You should ask him who he is supporting the

:18:29. > :18:31.president. He said you are the most dangerous person to run for

:18:32. > :18:34.president in the modern history of America. I think he is right up by

:18:35. > :18:41.the LAUGHING. Let us turn to Aleppo.

:18:42. > :18:48.Donald Trump, in the last date you were both asked about Aleppo. Are

:18:49. > :18:53.want to follow up on that. You said several things in that debate that

:18:54. > :19:02.will not true. You said Aleppo has basically fallen. In fact, there

:19:03. > :19:06.are... It is a catastrophe. Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Have you

:19:07. > :19:12.seen what happened to Aleppo? Can I finish my question? Take a look at

:19:13. > :19:17.it. 11 million people are being slaughtered. That is right. Because

:19:18. > :19:24.of bad decisions. If I may just finished. And you also said that

:19:25. > :19:31.Islamic State are being fought against. You said that Aleppo is

:19:32. > :19:37.being bombed. They announced a humanitarian issue, admitting they

:19:38. > :19:41.have been bombed. Aleppo is a disaster. It is a humanitarian

:19:42. > :19:49.nightmare. But it has fallen from any standpoint. Do you need a signed

:19:50. > :19:53.document? Look at it. It is so sad what has happened. A lot of this is

:19:54. > :19:58.because of Hillary Clinton. Because what happened is by fighting Bashar

:19:59. > :20:05.al-Assad, who was tougher than she thought, now she will say, he loves

:20:06. > :20:09.Bashar al-Assad, but he is tougher and smarter than her and Obama. Ever

:20:10. > :20:14.140 was gone two years ago, three years ago. -- everyone thought he

:20:15. > :20:20.was. He aligned with Russia and Iran. We made them powerful. We gave

:20:21. > :20:28.them $150 billion back. $1.7 billion in cash. I mean cash. Bundles of

:20:29. > :20:35.cash as big as this stage. $1.7 billion. Now, they have lied, and he

:20:36. > :20:40.has aligned with Russia and Iran. Day don't want Islamic State. They

:20:41. > :20:45.have other things. We are backing rebels. We don't know who the rebels

:20:46. > :20:50.us. We are giving them lots of money and of everything. We don't know

:20:51. > :20:54.through the rebels are. And when and if, and it won't happen, because of

:20:55. > :21:08.Russia and Iran, but if SAFA did over the row Bashar al-Assad, we

:21:09. > :21:12.might get aid worse person. -- but if they ever did get rid of Bashar.

:21:13. > :21:18.This is what has caused the great migration, where she is taking in

:21:19. > :21:24.tens of thousands of Syrian refugees. In many cases they are

:21:25. > :21:27.aligned with Islamic State. And we have them in our country! This will

:21:28. > :21:32.be the great Trojan horse. Wait until you see what happens in the

:21:33. > :21:38.coming years. Thank you for doing such a great job, Hillary Clinton!

:21:39. > :21:45.Secretary Clinton, detoxed about in the last debate and again today you

:21:46. > :21:48.would impose a no-fly zone. -- you talked. President Obama has refused

:21:49. > :21:53.to do that because he feels it will draw us closer into the conflict.

:21:54. > :21:59.The chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff says that a no-fly zone will

:22:00. > :22:04.bring us into a wall, his words, with Syria and Russia. So the

:22:05. > :22:10.question I have is, if you impose a no-fly zone, how do you respond to

:22:11. > :22:13.concerns, and if you impose a no-fly zone and a Russian plane violates

:22:14. > :22:18.that, does President Clinton shoot that plane down? First of all, I

:22:19. > :22:23.think a no-fly zone good save lives and hasten the end of the conflict.

:22:24. > :22:28.I am aware of the ledger, the concerns you have expressed from

:22:29. > :22:33.both the president and the general. -- legitimate. This would not be

:22:34. > :22:39.done on the first day. It would take negotiation. We would have to make

:22:40. > :22:43.it clear to the Russians and Syrians that the purpose is to provide safe

:22:44. > :22:46.zones on the ground. Millions of people have left Syria. Those

:22:47. > :22:52.millions of people inside Syria who have been dislocated. So I think we

:22:53. > :22:55.could strike a deal and make it very clear to the Russians and the

:22:56. > :23:00.Syrians that this was something that we believe is in the best interests

:23:01. > :23:04.of those on the ground in Syria and it would help us in our fight

:23:05. > :23:07.against Islamic State. But I want to respond to what Donald Trump said

:23:08. > :23:11.about refugees. He has made these claims repeatedly. I will not let

:23:12. > :23:15.anyone into this country who is not vetted and who we do not have

:23:16. > :23:20.confidence in. But I will not slam the door on women at it. There was a

:23:21. > :23:24.picture of that little foyer rolled boy with the blood coming down his

:23:25. > :23:32.face as he sat in an ambulance, it was wanting. We will do careful and

:23:33. > :23:35.thorough vetting. That does not solve the challenges with Islamic

:23:36. > :23:39.State and the need to stop radicalisation and to work with

:23:40. > :23:44.Muslim communities who are on the front lines to identify and prevent

:23:45. > :23:57.attacks. In fact, the killer of the dozens of people at the nightclub in

:23:58. > :24:01.Orlando, the Pulse Nightclub, was born in Queens, where Donald Trump

:24:02. > :24:05.was born. Let us be clear how we will deal with the problem and what

:24:06. > :24:10.it is. Yes, some of the problem emanates from Syria and Iraq. But I

:24:11. > :24:14.will defeat Islamic State and we need to up our game and be much

:24:15. > :24:20.smarter. The final segment. It is so ridiculous... She will defeat ISIS,

:24:21. > :24:26.she says. We should never have let it happen in the first place. One

:24:27. > :24:30.second. They had a ceasefire three weeks ago. A ceasefire, the United

:24:31. > :24:36.States, Russia, Syria. And during the ceasefire, Russia took over vast

:24:37. > :24:40.swathes of land and said we don't want it any more. We are so

:24:41. > :24:48.outplayed on missiles and ceasefires. She wasn't there and I

:24:49. > :24:51.assume she had nothing to do with it, but our country is so outplayed

:24:52. > :24:55.by Vladimir Putin and Bashar al-Assad, and by the way, Iran. The

:24:56. > :25:01.body can believe how stupid our leadership is. -- nobody. We need to

:25:02. > :25:08.move on to the final segment, the national debt, not discussed until

:25:09. > :25:13.tonight. Our national debt as a Sherine the economy, GDP, is now

:25:14. > :25:20.77%, the highest since just after World War Two. -- as a share of the.

:25:21. > :25:26.But Secretary Clinton, under your plan, debt would rise to 86% of GDP

:25:27. > :25:36.over the next ten years, and Donald Trump, under yours, 105% over the

:25:37. > :25:45.next ten years. Why are you both ignoring it? They are wrong. I'll

:25:46. > :25:50.create tremendous job. I will bring GDP from 1%, and if she got in it

:25:51. > :25:56.would be less than zero, we are bringing it from 1% up to 4%. And I

:25:57. > :26:01.think we can go higher than 4%, five or 6%. And if we do... You don't

:26:02. > :26:05.have to bother asking the question, because we have a tremendous

:26:06. > :26:09.machine. We have created a tremendous economic machine once

:26:10. > :26:13.again. To do that, we are taking back jobs. We will not let our

:26:14. > :26:17.companies be raided by other countries where we lose all our

:26:18. > :26:22.jobs. We won't bring in products any more. It is very sad we don't make

:26:23. > :26:27.any. I will create the kind of country we were from the standpoint

:26:28. > :26:30.of industry. We used to be there but we have given it up. We have become

:26:31. > :26:36.very, very sloppy. We have had people that are political house

:26:37. > :26:41.making the biggest deals in the world. -- hacks. The straight deals

:26:42. > :26:47.are far bigger than these companies. But we don't use great leaders, many

:26:48. > :26:50.of whom backed Hillary, but we don't use those people. They are the

:26:51. > :26:54.greatest negotiators in the world. We have the greatest people in the

:26:55. > :26:58.world. We need to use them to negotiate trade deals. We is

:26:59. > :27:07.political hacks, people that get the physician because they made the

:27:08. > :27:12.donation. -- position We have to use great people. That being said, we

:27:13. > :27:17.will create an economic machine the likes of which we haven't seen in

:27:18. > :27:23.many decades. And people, Chris, will again go back to work, and they

:27:24. > :27:26.will make a lot of money and we will have companies that will grow and

:27:27. > :27:31.expand and start from new. Secretary Clinton. First, when I hear Donald

:27:32. > :27:37.talk like that and know that his slogan is make America great again,

:27:38. > :27:45.I wonder when he thought America was great, and before he says before you

:27:46. > :27:49.and President Obama were there, I think it is important to recognise

:27:50. > :27:56.he has been criticising our government for decades. You know,

:27:57. > :28:01.back in 1987, he took out a $100,000 advertisement in the New York Times

:28:02. > :28:05.during the time when resident Reagan was president and basically said in

:28:06. > :28:11.fact what he just said, that we were the laughing stock of the world. --

:28:12. > :28:16.President. He was criticising Ronald Reagan. This is how he thinks about

:28:17. > :28:20.himself. He puts himself into the middle and says, you know, I alone

:28:21. > :28:25.can fix it, as he said the conventions age. But if you look at

:28:26. > :28:29.the debt, which is the issue you asked about, I pay for everything I

:28:30. > :28:34.am proposing. -- convenstion stage. I don't add a penny to the national

:28:35. > :28:39.debt. I take that seriously. Because I think that is one of the issues we

:28:40. > :28:43.have got to come to grips with. So when I talk about how we are going

:28:44. > :28:47.to pay for education and how we are going to invest in infrastructure

:28:48. > :28:51.and how we are going to get the cost of prescription drugs down, many of

:28:52. > :28:55.the issues people talk to me about all the time, I have made it clear

:28:56. > :28:59.that we are going where the money is and we are going to ask the wealthy

:29:00. > :29:04.and corporations to pay their fair share. And there is no evidence

:29:05. > :29:11.whatsoever that that will slow down or diminish our growth. In fact, I

:29:12. > :29:14.think, just the opposite, what economists call middle out growth.

:29:15. > :29:19.We to get back to regrow in the middle-class. That is where growth

:29:20. > :29:23.will come from. I want to invest in you and your family. I think that is

:29:24. > :29:28.the smartest way to grow the economy and make the economy fairer and we

:29:29. > :29:32.have a big disagreement about this. Maybe it is because of our

:29:33. > :29:36.experiences. Is darted off with a millionaire father and I started off

:29:37. > :29:40.with... We have heard this before. I think it is a difference that

:29:41. > :29:47.affects how we see the world and what we want to do with the economy.

:29:48. > :29:53.And I respond? No. I disagreed with Ronald Reagan.

:29:54. > :30:04.I disagree with him on trade. But now we are going to do it right. The

:30:05. > :30:10.biggest driver of our debt is entitlement, which is 60% of all

:30:11. > :30:14.federal spending. The responsible Federal budget has looked at both of

:30:15. > :30:19.your plans and say neither of you has a serious plan that will resolve

:30:20. > :30:23.the fact that Medicare will run out of money in the 2020 's. Social

:30:24. > :30:29.Security will run out of money in the 2030. Recipients will take huge

:30:30. > :30:34.cut in their benefits. In effect, the final question I want to ask you

:30:35. > :30:40.in this regard, and let me start with you, Mr Trump, the president

:30:41. > :30:49.Trump make the deal to save social care that includes benefit cuts and

:30:50. > :30:54.a grand bargain on it? We are going to grow the economy. That will not

:30:55. > :30:58.help. One thing we have to do. Repeal and to replace the disaster

:30:59. > :31:02.known as Obamacare. It is just trying our country and our

:31:03. > :31:06.businesses, our small business and our big businesses, we have to

:31:07. > :31:11.repeal and replace Obamacare. You take a look at the kind of numbers

:31:12. > :31:18.that will cost us in the year 2017. It is a disaster. If we don't repeal

:31:19. > :31:24.and replace. It will probably die on its own, but Obamacare has to go.

:31:25. > :31:29.The premiums are going up 60, 70, 80%. Next year they will go up over

:31:30. > :31:33.100%. I'm really glad that the premiums have started and the people

:31:34. > :31:38.see what is happening. She wants to keep Obamacare and make it even

:31:39. > :31:42.worse. It can't get any worse. Bad healthcare at the most expensive

:31:43. > :31:48.price. We have to repeal and replace Obamacare. Secretary Clinton, same

:31:49. > :31:52.question. At this point, Social Security and Medicare will run out

:31:53. > :31:58.and the trust fund will run out of money. Will you as president

:31:59. > :32:03.consider a grand bargain, a deal, that includes both tax increases and

:32:04. > :32:07.benefit cuts to try to save both programmes? I am on record as saying

:32:08. > :32:10.we need to put more money into Social Security trust fund. That is

:32:11. > :32:16.part of my commitment to raise taxes on the wealthy. My Social Security

:32:17. > :32:22.payroll contribution will go up, as will Donald's, assuming he can't

:32:23. > :32:27.figure out how to get out of it, but what we want to do is replace...

:32:28. > :32:32.Such a nasty. We have to make sure we have sufficient resources, and

:32:33. > :32:37.that will come from either raising the cap or finding ways to get more

:32:38. > :32:42.money into it. I will not cut benefits. I want to enhance benefits

:32:43. > :32:45.for those income workers. And for women who have been disadvantaged by

:32:46. > :32:50.the current Social Security system. But what Donald is proposing with

:32:51. > :32:57.these massive tax cuts will result in a $20 trillion additional

:32:58. > :33:01.national debt. Have dire consequences for Security and

:33:02. > :33:05.Medicare. I will say something about the affordable care act, which he

:33:06. > :33:10.wants to repeal. The act extends the resiliency of the Medicare trust

:33:11. > :33:13.fund. If he repeal sick, and Medicare problem gets worse. Your

:33:14. > :33:18.husband disagrees with you. We need a long-term of Cape Canaveral. We

:33:19. > :33:23.need costs down, increased value, emphasise one is. I think we will be

:33:24. > :33:28.able to get entitlement spending under control with more resources

:33:29. > :33:34.and smarter decisions. This is the final time, bubbly to both of your

:33:35. > :33:46.ally, you will be on stage together in this campaign. -- probably both

:33:47. > :33:53.to your delight. I would like you each, and we will put a clock up, to

:33:54. > :33:57.tell the American people why they should elect to to be the next

:33:58. > :34:03.president will stop this is another new mini segment. Hillary Clinton,

:34:04. > :34:07.it is your turn to go first. I would like to say to everyone watching

:34:08. > :34:11.tonight that I am reaching out to all Americans, Democrats,

:34:12. > :34:15.Republicans and independents, because we need everybody to help

:34:16. > :34:18.make our country what it should be. To grow the economy, to make it

:34:19. > :34:24.fairer, to make it work for everyone. We need your talents, your

:34:25. > :34:28.skills, your commitment, more energy, your ambition. I have been

:34:29. > :34:31.privileged to see the presidency up close, and I know the awesome

:34:32. > :34:34.responsibility of protecting our country and the incredible

:34:35. > :34:39.opportunity of working to try to make life better for all of you. I

:34:40. > :34:44.have made because of children and families really my life's Web. That

:34:45. > :34:49.is what my mission will be in the presidency. -- work. I will stand up

:34:50. > :34:53.for families against powerful interests, corporations, I will do

:34:54. > :34:57.everything I can to make sure that you have good jobs with rising

:34:58. > :35:01.incomes. That your kids have good educations from preschool through to

:35:02. > :35:04.college. I hope you will give me a chance to serve as your president.

:35:05. > :35:10.Secretary Clinton, thank you. Mr Trump. She is raising the money from

:35:11. > :35:14.the people she wants to control. It doesn't work that way. When I

:35:15. > :35:18.started this campaign, I started it very strongly, make America a great

:35:19. > :35:22.again. We are going to make America great. We have a depleted military.

:35:23. > :35:26.It has to be helped and fixed with the greatest people on earth in a

:35:27. > :35:30.military. We don't take care of our veterans. We take care of illegal

:35:31. > :35:35.immigrants. We take of them better than that. That can't happen. Our

:35:36. > :35:40.policemen and policewomen I disrespected. We need more and order

:35:41. > :35:44.but we need justice as well. Our inner cities are a disaster. You get

:35:45. > :35:48.shot walking to the store. They have no education and jobs. I will do

:35:49. > :35:53.more for African Americans and Latinos the chicken ever do in ten

:35:54. > :35:58.lifetimes. All she has done is talk to the African Americans and the

:35:59. > :36:03.Latinos -- then she can ever do. They get the vote and say we will

:36:04. > :36:06.see you in four years. We will make America strong again and we will

:36:07. > :36:10.make America great again, and it has to start now. We cannot take four

:36:11. > :36:13.more years of Barack Obama, and that is what you get when you get her.

:36:14. > :36:17.Thank you both. APPLAUSE

:36:18. > :36:22.Secretary Clinton... Hold on, just a second. I want to thank you both for

:36:23. > :36:29.participating in all three of these debates. That brings to an end this

:36:30. > :36:32.you's debate. We want to take the University of Nevada, most beggars,

:36:33. > :36:39.and its students, for having us. Now the decision is up to you. The

:36:40. > :36:44.election is on November eight, just 20 days away. One thing everyone can

:36:45. > :36:49.agree on, we hope you will grow and Fred. It is one of the honours and

:36:50. > :36:50.obligations of living in this great country. -- and vote. Thank you and

:36:51. > :37:00.good night. Chris Wallace from Fox News wrapping

:37:01. > :37:06.up the third and final US presidential debate of 2016. Urging

:37:07. > :37:11.American voters, whatever side they follow, to go and vote, saying it is

:37:12. > :37:14.the privilege of people who live in the United States to have the right

:37:15. > :37:19.to vote, and they should exercise it. We had 90 minutes of Donald

:37:20. > :37:24.Trump and Hillary Clinton in often rushes attacks against each other.

:37:25. > :37:29.They talked about substantial issues during this debate -- brochures.

:37:30. > :37:33.Abortion rights, done right, tax proposals, Social Security

:37:34. > :37:37.proposals, foreign policy, the attack on Mosul. But the headline

:37:38. > :37:41.out of this debate was when Donald Trump said he would not guarantee to

:37:42. > :37:47.accept a result of this election. He said he would look at it when the

:37:48. > :37:53.time came. He said he would keep the American people in suspense for the

:37:54. > :37:57.moment. I am joint by Anthony Zurcher, who was watching the debate

:37:58. > :38:03.with me -- joined. What did you make of that? It was extraordinary.

:38:04. > :38:06.Hillary Clinton called it horrifying and downplaying American democracy,

:38:07. > :38:10.and the moderator Chris Wallace pushed them on as well. To have a

:38:11. > :38:14.major presidential candidates stand on the stage and say he was not

:38:15. > :38:19.necessarily going to abide by the result of the election. He did it as

:38:20. > :38:22.part of a larger answer where he was lashing out against the media, who

:38:23. > :38:26.he says are poisoning people's mines, and saying Hillary Clinton

:38:27. > :38:30.should not have even been allowed to run for president. They have been a

:38:31. > :38:35.lot of presidential debates since 1960, Kennedy versus Nixon, we have

:38:36. > :38:39.not seen anything even approaching that. It was a truly divisive

:38:40. > :38:43.remarks. What does it do to the last three weeks of what has already been

:38:44. > :38:47.a contentious election campaign, to have one of the candidates they

:38:48. > :38:50.effectively, I'm not sure I will support the next person? I think it

:38:51. > :38:56.destabilises the democracy and this election. He has legions of

:38:57. > :39:01.supporters, millions of supporters. He is still polling around 40%, and

:39:02. > :39:05.he is telling them if he loses, it could be because the system was

:39:06. > :39:09.rigged against him. It could lead to violence at polling places. He is

:39:10. > :39:13.saying his supporters need to watch other polling places, possibly in

:39:14. > :39:19.inner cities with minority voters. That sort of thing could cause

:39:20. > :39:23.unrest. He was setting up to make it difficult for Hillary Clinton to

:39:24. > :39:26.govern if he wins, because there will be a large segment of the

:39:27. > :39:30.American population that does not believe she is rightfully president.

:39:31. > :39:33.So we have Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton saying good night and hello

:39:34. > :39:38.to their supporters. They have family members and their own guests

:39:39. > :39:41.who are invited members of both parties, Republican and Democratic

:39:42. > :39:46.parties, you can see Donald Trump with Melania Trump in the hall

:39:47. > :39:50.before they leave the debate hall. There were substantive issues

:39:51. > :39:55.discussed in this campaign, hats more so than the two previous Bates.

:39:56. > :39:58.Donald Trump certainly had moments when he reached to conservative

:39:59. > :40:02.Americans on the issue of abortion rights and gun-control -- perhaps

:40:03. > :40:06.more so than the two previous debates. Making the case for why he

:40:07. > :40:10.should be elected. At the beginning of the debate, Chris Wallace did a

:40:11. > :40:13.smart thing, framed in a discussion of the Supreme Court. So both

:40:14. > :40:18.candidates talked about policies. They talked about abortion and gun

:40:19. > :40:23.rights. Both of them came up with compelling embodiments of their

:40:24. > :40:26.party's position. Even when we first started talking about immigration,

:40:27. > :40:30.Donald Trump was talking about his wall, the dangers posed by illegal

:40:31. > :40:33.immigrant. Hillary Clinton was talking about the families that

:40:34. > :40:37.might be pulled apart Donald Trump's proposed deportation forces. You

:40:38. > :40:43.could kind of squint and imagine this was just another presidential

:40:44. > :40:48.debate. But then when Clinton got asked about Wikileaks, she turned

:40:49. > :40:55.into Tom's -- Trump's ties to blood nicotine. He had been taking swipes

:40:56. > :41:01.at Hillary Clinton saying she was a Russian stooge and a liar -- ties to

:41:02. > :41:05.Vladimir Putin. Anthony Zurcher, if you have been with me throughout the

:41:06. > :41:06.debates. Thank you for joining me in Las Vegas.

:41:07. > :41:08.Joining me now from Washington are Doug Thornell,

:41:09. > :41:11.and John Feehery, Republican Strategist.

:41:12. > :41:19.You have been watching this the best way you should watch these debates,

:41:20. > :41:22.on a television screen, which is how millions of Americans will have been

:41:23. > :41:27.watching them. John, let me start with you. What did you make of

:41:28. > :41:34.Donald Trump's performance this evening? Talking about substance, I

:41:35. > :41:38.think Donald Trump did well. He laid out the conservative case for why he

:41:39. > :41:42.wanted to grow the economy and talk about the other issues that were

:41:43. > :41:47.brought up. Immigration I thought he did well. He did well on trade from

:41:48. > :41:51.his perspective, and did well attacking Hillary. I figure was a

:41:52. > :41:56.mistake when he said he would keep us in suspense -- I think it was.

:41:57. > :41:59.That goes against what his vice presidential candidate said and what

:42:00. > :42:03.his daughter said earlier today. Is a huge mistake. It They are the

:42:04. > :42:09.headlines. He could have won the debate hands down, and then the

:42:10. > :42:12.headline no matter what would be what he said on accepting the

:42:13. > :42:17.results. That was a big mistake on his part. Before I bring you into

:42:18. > :42:28.this, let's play that for viewers who might have missed it. We have

:42:29. > :42:34.backlit. -- that clip. I think we have that clip. We will try to bring

:42:35. > :42:39.that up right now. OK. We will get back in just a minute. Let me bring

:42:40. > :42:44.you into the discussion. Will that be the headline? I remember what he

:42:45. > :42:49.said, and it was stunning, absolutely stunning, that a major

:42:50. > :42:52.party candidate would not accept the results of an election. I disagree

:42:53. > :42:56.with John. I think you are Clinton gave her best performance of all

:42:57. > :43:00.three debates. -- Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump was all over the place

:43:01. > :43:04.and did not really have a coherent economic policy at all. Hers was

:43:05. > :43:10.very coherent. I think it looked angry. He looked like someone who

:43:11. > :43:15.had a grievance. He looked like someone who's defending his right

:43:16. > :43:19.flank, and worried about states that are traditionally red state, so he

:43:20. > :43:23.made an appeal to his base. He did not grow any votes here. He did not

:43:24. > :43:27.give folks in Pennsylvania and suburbs reason to vote for him, and

:43:28. > :43:32.that is what he needed to do. He lost. It was a handsdown defeat. No

:43:33. > :43:38.question in my mind your Clinton won this debate. Maybe not in knockout.

:43:39. > :43:43.Donald Trump will have to figure out a way he can pull his campaign back

:43:44. > :43:48.together for the last three weeks of this race. OK, if we are going to

:43:49. > :43:52.use sports analogies, we will have to translate them as we go along.

:43:53. > :43:56.Let's listen to that clip on the results of the election. Let's be

:43:57. > :44:00.clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating

:44:01. > :44:07.and talking down our democracy. I for one am appalled that somebody

:44:08. > :44:11.who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind

:44:12. > :44:15.of position. I think that the FBI did what the Department Justice did,

:44:16. > :44:19.including meeting with her husband, the Attorney General, in the back of

:44:20. > :44:24.an aeroplane on the tarmac in Arizona, I think it is disgraceful.

:44:25. > :44:32.I think it is a disgrace. We have never had a situation so... I have

:44:33. > :44:36.never had a situation so... He said he would keep people in suspense

:44:37. > :44:39.about whether he would accept the results of the election, and he

:44:40. > :44:44.would talk about it when we actually got there.

:44:45. > :44:52.There were moments when Donald Trump, especially in the first half,

:44:53. > :44:55.and we saw a pattern in the first debate as well, where he did make a

:44:56. > :45:00.compelling case to Conservative voters about why he was the stronger

:45:01. > :45:04.candidate. On those social issues that are very important to many

:45:05. > :45:09.Conservative voters. I don't disagree that he made a good case to

:45:10. > :45:12.Conservative voters, but he isn't running for the Republican

:45:13. > :45:18.nomination any more, he is running for the presidency and he has to

:45:19. > :45:24.reach out to Republicans and some Democrats. He ran out of gas again.

:45:25. > :45:28.He likes to talk about stamina and I think he ran out of gas early in the

:45:29. > :45:33.debate, earlier than the first one. Three weeks before the election it

:45:34. > :45:38.isn't necessarily about your base so much as expanding your electorate

:45:39. > :45:42.and he didn't do that, so I think he has got a lot of problems heading

:45:43. > :45:46.into the last three weeks of this campaign. Let's hear Donald Trump on

:45:47. > :45:56.the issue of abortion rights in America.

:45:57. > :46:04.It is about what's happening right now in America. So many states are

:46:05. > :46:09.putting very stringent regulations on women, that block them from

:46:10. > :46:14.exercising that choice, to the extent that they are defunding

:46:15. > :46:17.Planned Parenthood, which of course provides all sorts of cancer

:46:18. > :46:21.screening and other benefits for women in our country. Donald has

:46:22. > :46:27.said he is in favour of defunding Planned Parenthood and even wanted

:46:28. > :46:32.to shut the government down to the fund Planned Parenthood. I will

:46:33. > :46:38.defend it. I will defend women's rights to make their own health-care

:46:39. > :46:45.decisions. We have come too far to have that turned back now. If you go

:46:46. > :46:50.with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month you can take the baby

:46:51. > :46:54.and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother, just prior to the birth

:46:55. > :47:00.of the baby. Now, you can say that that's OK and Hillary can say that

:47:01. > :47:04.that's OK, but it is not OK with me, because based on what she's saying

:47:05. > :47:09.and based on where she is going and she has been, you can take the baby

:47:10. > :47:14.and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month, on the final day,

:47:15. > :47:19.and that's not acceptable. Well, that's not what happens in those

:47:20. > :47:22.cases and using that kind of scared rhetoric is just terribly

:47:23. > :47:25.unfortunate. You should meet with some of the women that I've met

:47:26. > :47:30.with, women I've known over the course of my life. This is one of

:47:31. > :47:35.the worst possible choices that any woman in her family -- and her

:47:36. > :47:37.family has to make and I do not believe the government should be

:47:38. > :47:44.making it. Let me ask you, when Donald Trump

:47:45. > :47:50.talks like that about ripping babies from the womb, obviously as Doug was

:47:51. > :47:56.suggesting that appeals to the core of his Conservative support, that he

:47:57. > :48:01.already has. People who are very pro life and are probably going to vote

:48:02. > :48:06.for Donald Trump in this election. But what does him talking like that

:48:07. > :48:13.do to undecided voters, especially female voters, in the country? Well,

:48:14. > :48:18.listen, the two parties have a difference on abortion. Republican

:48:19. > :48:25.Party is pro-life, the Democratic Party is pro-choice and he is

:48:26. > :48:29.talking about the types of abortions that aren't very popular in America.

:48:30. > :48:32.Polling shows that a lot of people who are Democrats are appalled by

:48:33. > :48:38.these types of abortions. I don't think this election really is at its

:48:39. > :48:41.core about abortion, it is about other issues, like the temperament

:48:42. > :48:45.of Donald Trump, the Clinton corruption on the Democratic side

:48:46. > :48:52.and that's what this election seems to be about. The abortion really is

:48:53. > :48:56.a political issue -- as a political issue, the parties have already

:48:57. > :49:00.sorted themselves out, so I don't know that either side will be swayed

:49:01. > :49:04.by the arguments of the other. On the issue of temperament and

:49:05. > :49:09.fitness, if you like, to be president, how do you think Donald

:49:10. > :49:21.Trump did this even in? Go-ahead, John. Go-ahead. I want to get John's

:49:22. > :49:26.response. I think what he showed was that he could talk about the issues.

:49:27. > :49:29.He did a relatively good job with temperament, it than the first

:49:30. > :49:38.debate. I think where he screwed up was talking about the election and

:49:39. > :49:41.would he accept the results and keeping people in suspense. American

:49:42. > :49:45.voters don't want to hear that. They want to hear about a peaceful

:49:46. > :49:49.transition to power and I assume that in the next couple of days he

:49:50. > :49:54.will go out and say that he will accept it. He said that in the past,

:49:55. > :49:59.I do know why he did that. I see we felt like he was put on the spot and

:50:00. > :50:03.he just choked and I think it was a big mistake on his part. I agree

:50:04. > :50:08.with John. Go-ahead. I agree with John. Look, I think that that is the

:50:09. > :50:11.real sign of a leader, someone who can accept defeat if it happens.

:50:12. > :50:16.We've seen that happen with John McCain in the past, Mitt Romney, we

:50:17. > :50:22.saw that happen with Al Gore. Folks who are statesmen who lost, they

:50:23. > :50:26.lost races that were very bitterly fought, but they accepted the

:50:27. > :50:30.defeat. For Donald Trump to come out here and want to talk about how this

:50:31. > :50:35.election is rigged against him, when both Paul Ryan, the Secretary of

:50:36. > :50:39.State in Ohio, and others have disputed that, and now see won't

:50:40. > :50:43.accept the results, I think it shows he is not only a sore loser but

:50:44. > :50:46.someone who doesn't understand how important the democracy of this

:50:47. > :50:52.country is and how the transition of power is so important to our

:50:53. > :50:58.standing in the world and to the citizens of this country. I thought

:50:59. > :51:04.it was a huge mistake on his part. There was of course also foreign

:51:05. > :51:10.policy that came into this. They discussed Mosul, Iraq, they spoke

:51:11. > :51:14.about whether Donald Trump hard or had not supported going into Iraq or

:51:15. > :51:19.whether Hillary Clinton had given rise to the vote for going into Iraq

:51:20. > :51:23.in the first place. But the bit of the foreign policy side that struck

:51:24. > :51:29.me was the back and forth between them on Russia and President Putin.

:51:30. > :51:32.Doug, what did you make of that? This is another stunning moment

:51:33. > :51:38.where the intelligence agency in this country has determined that

:51:39. > :51:43.Russia has hacked American institutions, the DMC and probably

:51:44. > :51:48.other institutions. This is something that today Marco Rubio

:51:49. > :51:53.said we shouldn't be using materials that were part of this hack. Donald

:51:54. > :51:57.Trump can't even admit it. I do if he isn't reading the news or he

:51:58. > :52:01.doesn't want to believe it or his so closely tied to Putin that he

:52:02. > :52:04.doesn't want to stand up against him, but I thought the line that

:52:05. > :52:11.secretary Clinton had about how he was Putin's public was strong. The

:52:12. > :52:16.Republican Party prides itself on ending communism and 80s, to have

:52:17. > :52:19.their nominee who won't even stand up to Putin, who won't stand up to

:52:20. > :52:24.Russia and condemned these acts, that are about undermining our

:52:25. > :52:30.democracy, is just unbelievable. It is unbelievable to me. But he did

:52:31. > :52:37.also very clearly say that if it were proven that Russia had been, or

:52:38. > :52:39.any government, being involved in undermining the American democratic

:52:40. > :52:45.process he would absolutely conned on it and he made that absolutely

:52:46. > :52:50.clear, didn't he? -- not condone it. I thought he did. Donald Trump

:52:51. > :52:55.basically said during this debate about foreign policy that anything

:52:56. > :52:59.that Hillary Clinton has touched or been in charge of has turned into a

:53:00. > :53:03.complete mess and a big a lot of voters actually agree with that. I

:53:04. > :53:08.think a lot of voters there, why did we need to bring troops backing to

:53:09. > :53:11.retake Mosul? That was a Clinton decision. What happened in Libya was

:53:12. > :53:20.a Clinton decision, a complete mess. One of the things Trump ran on what

:53:21. > :53:23.he came out very strongly and said what the Bush administration did in

:53:24. > :53:29.Iraq was wrong. Not the Republican would dare to say that. And so he

:53:30. > :53:32.has been on this, saying we make huge mistakes get into Iraq and huge

:53:33. > :53:37.mistakes getting out of Iraq and that has been his view. He won the

:53:38. > :53:40.Republican primary based on that view and I think a lot of voters

:53:41. > :53:46.think foreign policy is a mess, it has been a mess for a while and

:53:47. > :53:50.Hillary Clinton won't fix that. I would just say most polls show that

:53:51. > :53:54.the voters prefer secretary Clinton on foreign policy and national

:53:55. > :53:59.security, than Donald Trump. In Libya I would just remind you that a

:54:00. > :54:05.lot of Republicans were in favour of taking out the Duffy, including

:54:06. > :54:10.Trump. -- Gaddafi. He was also in support of the Iraq war. He has no

:54:11. > :54:14.plan to take on ISIS, none whatsoever, and I think that if you

:54:15. > :54:19.want the sort of foreign policy that we saw in the 2000s their Donald

:54:20. > :54:23.Trump is probably your man. It is unclear what is foreign policy is. I

:54:24. > :54:32.disagree with that. If you think about it, what's happened with Bush

:54:33. > :54:38.and Clinton, there is some continuity. I'd necessarily agree --

:54:39. > :54:42.I don't necessarily agree with him, that we need a different approach,

:54:43. > :54:46.but a lot of people find it refreshing, that we need a different

:54:47. > :54:51.approach instead of doing the same thing over and over again. We need

:54:52. > :54:56.to do something else in the Middle East. I want to jump in because we

:54:57. > :54:59.just have a minute left and I want to ask both of you briefly, starting

:55:00. > :55:03.with you, John, whether you think this debate changed the nature of

:55:04. > :55:07.the race for the presidency? I don't know, I don't think it helped Donald

:55:08. > :55:11.Trump when he said he wouldn't accept the election. I think that's

:55:12. > :55:15.a mistake and we have to clean it up. On substance I think it could

:55:16. > :55:19.have won if he didn't talk about that. Doug? I don't think it changed

:55:20. > :55:22.anything. I think if anything it will give Hillary Clinton a good

:55:23. > :55:26.list heading into the final 20 days of this race and Donald Trump is

:55:27. > :55:31.really going to have to figure out how he cleans up the mess that he

:55:32. > :55:35.made the night, which I think was pretty large both on the election as

:55:36. > :55:40.well as the Russia comments. Doug, you have to leave it there. Thanks

:55:41. > :55:45.so much to both of you, for joining me in Las Vegas, for the third and

:55:46. > :55:49.final presidential debate. A lot was talked about, at the headline from

:55:50. > :55:53.this debate, Donald Trump suggesting that he would not guarantee that he

:55:54. > :55:57.would accept the results of the election, that he was going to keep

:55:58. > :55:59.the American people in suspense. That's what people will talk about

:56:00. > :56:11.after this third and final debate. Nothing too severe on the horizon

:56:12. > :56:15.across the UK over the next few days but there will be regional

:56:16. > :56:18.variation in the weather.