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:00:34. > :00:47.Welcome to Unsprung. I don't really know what that's all about, but

:00:48. > :00:54.we've got a very special show for you tonight. We've got four

:00:55. > :01:02.presenters. One... Come on! Two, can you come quicker than that? Three,

:01:03. > :01:09.and four. We've got a live audience. CHEERING

:01:10. > :01:13.I have a cold. Shame. We've got some fantastic mammals, and we've got

:01:14. > :01:18.some absolutely brilliant guests, and they are all stuffed into a

:01:19. > :01:21.small barn here in the middle of Leighton Moss reserve. It is going

:01:22. > :01:28.to be a good night. You could say this is a recipe for the best kind

:01:29. > :01:32.of night. We've had a bit of an artistic leaning this week on

:01:33. > :01:38.Unsprung. We've all been very creative, some more than others, and

:01:39. > :01:42.that isn't a comment about your log versus pumpkin tragedy. I saw it

:01:43. > :01:47.under the caravan last night. Very sad. Later on we are going to meet

:01:48. > :01:52.some art ises who have managed to turn paper and plastic building

:01:53. > :01:56.bricks into the most fantastic wildlife sculptures. But first, I'm

:01:57. > :02:01.quite good at this, I'm going to do a little bit of paper sculpture and

:02:02. > :02:08.create a couple of birds for you. There are look. -- there you are

:02:09. > :02:13.look, a seagull, a herring gull actually. And another one. I've been

:02:14. > :02:23.practising. Do you want a drum roll? If you could, yes. What's that? It's

:02:24. > :02:30.a duck. It hasn't hatched yet. Terrible. That was terrible. I do

:02:31. > :02:33.apologise. We've also got Level-headed Joe.

:02:34. > :02:39.CHEERING as usual, she is patrolling the

:02:40. > :02:45.information highway and feeding us your questions and comments. Are

:02:46. > :02:50.there any good ones? Steve Price said when I lived across from

:02:51. > :02:59.Morecambe Bay, the foxes use to hunt on the mudflats for fish trapped

:03:00. > :03:05.when the sea retreated. Any other nuggets? Lots of love for the show.

:03:06. > :03:10.We like that. We like the love. Jo will also be taking the answers for

:03:11. > :03:18.tonight's quiz, which reminds me, I had better set it. I'm calling this

:03:19. > :03:24.who's flight line is it anyway? Where are my bird pictures gone? It

:03:25. > :03:30.is all going very well! Here they come. We are going to give you birds

:03:31. > :03:36.first. Chris, we know you like a waxwing. Michaela has already

:03:37. > :03:42.admitted her love affair for the loveliest -- the ugliest bird in the

:03:43. > :03:53.air. And that's the goose for Martin. These are, the idea is to

:03:54. > :03:57.match the birds with their migratory route. This is the easiest quiz

:03:58. > :04:02.we've had all week. The reason being is you should know the answers.

:04:03. > :04:11.Chris and Martin and Michaela have been going on about this all week.

:04:12. > :04:17.And on and on. There's route A, from green land to us. We've got route B,

:04:18. > :04:24.over from the north of Europe. Lots of clues. And one leaving. It

:04:25. > :04:28.doesn't get much easier. Even I can get this. We are hoping that

:04:29. > :04:32.Level-headed Jo will be rushed off her feet tonight.

:04:33. > :04:35.We are going to start with a little bit of audience interaction in the

:04:36. > :04:43.sense of I think Jo is in the audience, Jo, we've been sent a

:04:44. > :04:50.series of rather nice image as. Where is Jo? We can't find her.

:04:51. > :04:57.Maybe she's migrated. But Jo sent in some fantastic things. She notice

:04:58. > :05:03.that on her kitchen table she had left her mince. She doesn't have

:05:04. > :05:12.mice but something was pinching her mince. What has been doing this? --

:05:13. > :05:15.her mints. Like all dedicated naturalists and curious minds she

:05:16. > :05:23.staked out the mint and this is what she saw. Wasps were nibbling her

:05:24. > :05:30.mints. Really? This was early autumn? Five or six weeks ago.

:05:31. > :05:42.That's perfect. They look like they might be male Wasps. They have a

:05:43. > :05:49.longer-looking... The whole purpose of a wasp nest, it is an annual

:05:50. > :05:55.affair, is to produce the general electionual generation. That's the

:05:56. > :06:02.Queen and the male towards the end of the season. The Queen pretty much

:06:03. > :06:07.gives up. The control of the workers disperses and they pretty much go

:06:08. > :06:12.and hit the town and hit the sweet stuff. These males are fuelling up

:06:13. > :06:18.on the mints. This is quite interesting, because there is no

:06:19. > :06:26.such thing as a wasp. They've all got names. They've all got names.

:06:27. > :06:32.You can identify them. One of the best ways is by their facial

:06:33. > :06:38.features. I've got to get this in the right order, if you take those

:06:39. > :06:52.two, you can have one there. Anyone else want any other wasp ? Let's

:06:53. > :07:05.have a close-up. We are looking at several features on the wasp head.

:07:06. > :07:10.This one in my hand, there's the malar patch, the cheek, and up there

:07:11. > :07:15.a patch above the eye. All these give an identity but this marking is

:07:16. > :07:22.the critical one in the middle. It varies between all our species. We

:07:23. > :07:35.are looking at this wasp. Which one of them that we are holding up looks

:07:36. > :07:43.like that one there? Oh, it's this one. It is working. You had diatoms

:07:44. > :07:50.earlier on and now you are identifying a wasp. We are turning

:07:51. > :07:56.her. And these are their names written on the back of their heads!

:07:57. > :08:06.This is the common wasp, the one that you typically see. Who had the

:08:07. > :08:11.blackest-faced one? That's the red wasp. Another way of identifying the

:08:12. > :08:20.wasp is to look at the markers on the abdomen. The red wasp does have

:08:21. > :08:25.a, often has a reddish-brown band as well. Continuing with the theme of

:08:26. > :08:29.all the information you've shared with us, we've got some fantastic

:08:30. > :08:33.things sent in here. Not just stories and questions but Barry has

:08:34. > :08:38.sent in his entire collection. If you want an illustration of one

:08:39. > :08:44.man's trash is another man's treasure, this is it. He's picked

:08:45. > :08:51.all his items up off the bank of the Thames, not far from St Paul's. This

:08:52. > :08:56.one is my favourite. Barry seems to think this is a carved stone. I

:08:57. > :08:59.don't know if I'm destroying the value of Barry's collection but I

:09:00. > :09:05.think it is better than a carved stone. If you look closely you can

:09:06. > :09:09.see patterns. Can you see that on the camera? Another one there and

:09:10. > :09:15.another one there. A symmetry going on here. That there is this lump of

:09:16. > :09:19.flint. It is a fossilised sea urchin. I can't tell you much more

:09:20. > :09:25.about that but it is a really nice item. I've got a whole house full of

:09:26. > :09:31.this sort of stuff. This one is also interesting. This one here is almost

:09:32. > :09:36.certainly a pig tooth of some kind, or a tusk. It could be a

:09:37. > :09:40.domesticated pig. We don't know how old it is. But if it is over 300

:09:41. > :09:48.years old it could potentially be the tusk of a wild boar. It isn't

:09:49. > :09:55.but it is a possibility. When I hear the name wild boar it evokes images

:09:56. > :10:04.of a time past. The last wild boar destroyed or shot in the UK was just

:10:05. > :10:11.up the road at Wild Boar Sca in the Pennines. They are back. They've

:10:12. > :10:16.been reintroduced. I like the fact that we've got wild boar back but

:10:17. > :10:23.when they've been missing for so long there are often a few problems.

:10:24. > :10:29.Meet this wild boar whose curiosity was nearly the death of her and her

:10:30. > :10:34.family. She was descended from the wild boar reintroduced to the Forest

:10:35. > :10:40.of Dean in 2004. For the most part these shy and elusive creatures

:10:41. > :10:47.avoid contact with us, preferring to live and breed in the remotest areas

:10:48. > :10:55.of the forest. However, where people feed the wildfowl some boar spot the

:10:56. > :10:59.opportunity for fast food. This almost prove to be a death sentence

:11:00. > :11:03.for her. Although there were no reported incidents of people being

:11:04. > :11:11.injured by boar these are wild animals, with the biggest meals

:11:12. > :11:16.often weighing over 140 kgs. For the Forestry Commission culling and

:11:17. > :11:21.over-friendly boar is their only option. Alex runs a llama trekking

:11:22. > :11:26.company in the forest of Dean. Earlier in the summer he received

:11:27. > :11:31.news of a particularly tame boar which was due to be put down this

:11:32. > :11:35.day. He went to investigate. To my horror I saw a lady with a very

:11:36. > :11:42.young child feeding dog biscuits to a wild boar. I tried to persistent

:11:43. > :11:47.out to her that what she was doing was a death certificate for the

:11:48. > :11:53.boar. We decided to set up a plan to catch this boar and take it to our

:11:54. > :12:01.sanctuary. Little be Alastair realise he had not just save life of

:12:02. > :12:07.one boar but three, as three months later she gave birth to two stripy

:12:08. > :12:13.hoglets. This was her first litter, so having only two is not unusual.

:12:14. > :12:17.These stripy babies are often called humbugs due to their resemblance to

:12:18. > :12:25.the sweets. They lose these distinctive markings at to four

:12:26. > :12:28.months old. Sadly these piglets will never be released back into the

:12:29. > :12:31.forest, as they would be unable to fend for themselves. Like their

:12:32. > :12:38.mother, they associate people with food. My sanctuary is not a

:12:39. > :12:43.solution. You've got to treat all wild animals with respect. They are

:12:44. > :12:53.rather pretty. Just appreciate that and enjoy them. Ah. I want to point

:12:54. > :12:59.out that Alastair was not pig rust until that film. That scene where he

:13:00. > :13:02.puts it in the van looks suspicious. He has full consent from the

:13:03. > :13:08.Forestry Commission to rehome the wild boar there. The serious side of

:13:09. > :13:12.that movie is that it is that we've lived without these animals for so

:13:13. > :13:19.long I feel we've lost common sense. It is like feeding the foxing, but

:13:20. > :13:24.the boar's been gone so long. But they play an important role in

:13:25. > :13:29.ecology, as they turn over the soil and promote regeneration of all

:13:30. > :13:36.sorts of things. We need to adapt to them and be tolerant. I totally

:13:37. > :13:43.agree. We've got an e-mail from Denzil Lloyd. I would like your

:13:44. > :13:49.input on this. He's said, there is a resident group of roe deer on our

:13:50. > :13:57.land and on one of their resting places we've found a pile of clean

:13:58. > :14:02.damson stones. It is a bed where the deer lie. I initially thought no,

:14:03. > :14:08.int won't be that, but I've never experienced it. I know these animals

:14:09. > :14:16.will eat fruit. Chris, you are a connoisseur of... Damsons and plums.

:14:17. > :14:21.Denzil thinks this animal, possibly, has been chewing the fruit and

:14:22. > :14:26.spitting the seeds out. No. It would have to go right through. It is not

:14:27. > :14:31.mixed with other faeces. I'm wondering whether it is another

:14:32. > :14:37.animal which happened to have passed those. It is a bit of a mystery,

:14:38. > :14:40.Denzil. We don't really know the answer but it is an interesting

:14:41. > :14:47.observation. The only thing with this is to keep your eye open and

:14:48. > :14:52.over time you might piece together enough "nuggets" - dare I say it?

:14:53. > :15:00.There's chuckling going on over there. Over here, I did promise you

:15:01. > :15:04.fantastic mammal as, and we have Terry and your daughter, Sally.

:15:05. > :15:11.Welcome. You've brought with you some equally fantastic mammals. Who

:15:12. > :15:19.is this? This is Poppy. We've got a hound and we've got a fox. This is

:15:20. > :15:25.Archie. Arty the fox. You are lovely. We've had a lot of foxes on

:15:26. > :15:32.Autumnwatch and Chris has been following the fortunes of the urban

:15:33. > :15:36.and suburban foxes in Brighton. I want you to put the fox politics out

:15:37. > :15:41.of your mind and enjoy the fact we've got a fox in the studio.

:15:42. > :15:50.What's his story? About three years ago, he came to us as a very small

:15:51. > :15:54.cub. He was covered in ticks and in the process of taking off the ticks

:15:55. > :15:58.over a while, as there were all sorts of eggs on him and he wasn't

:15:59. > :16:03.in a very good way, he became imprinted, so he couldn't go back

:16:04. > :16:08.into the wild again. Normally when we rescue foxes we put them back

:16:09. > :16:11.into the wild. Not locally. We have great relationships with local

:16:12. > :16:15.farmers. We don't put them back on the farmland, we put them usually

:16:16. > :16:21.into the wild of Scotland, where they are no bother. But he couldn't

:16:22. > :16:26.go back. He has a life now of educating children really. We take

:16:27. > :16:29.him to schools. And having the opportunity of getting that close to

:16:30. > :16:34.a fox is unbelievable. It is pretty cool for us as well. The question I

:16:35. > :16:38.really want to ask, what's the relationship between the dog and the

:16:39. > :16:44.fox? This is quite an unusual sight isn't it? Originally we had a Jack

:16:45. > :16:49.Russell. The Jack Russell kind of mothered the fox when the fox was a

:16:50. > :16:54.baby. But unfortunately the Jack Russell died. Oh, no! . After that

:16:55. > :16:59.happened we had to get a surrogate dog. We got Poppy as a puppy and it

:17:00. > :17:03.became the opposite relationship really. They love each other and

:17:04. > :17:08.they play with each other a lot. It is enrichment. We've tried other

:17:09. > :17:14.foxes in with Arty but he thinks he's human, so he likes taking the

:17:15. > :17:19.dog for a walk. Brilliant. Really nice to see you and it is Poppy's

:17:20. > :17:23.birthday today. Happy birthday, Poppy. You told me a cool fact

:17:24. > :17:28.earlier on. Can you share it with the audience? Yes. Different foxes

:17:29. > :17:33.have different attributes in different parts of the country. Arty

:17:34. > :17:41.here was brought to us from the North East, the wetlands centre in

:17:42. > :17:46.Washington. A Geordie fox. Generally they've got longer legs than the

:17:47. > :17:51.ones in the North-West, where we come from, in Cumbria. Fantastic.

:17:52. > :17:54.Thank you for bringing your fantastic mammals. Lovely to see

:17:55. > :18:00.them. We've got some rather... Look at

:18:01. > :18:07.this tea cosy. This is a regular feature. This is Lynn Hardman. Thank

:18:08. > :18:13.you for. This you create these things regularly. I do, yes. This

:18:14. > :18:18.one is a fox. It is all in theme. Wonderfully creative. But I did

:18:19. > :18:28.promise you a bit of a creative theme. We have got, I want to invite

:18:29. > :18:38.to the crate, to the cheques Diane and Tom pulse son. Please --

:18:39. > :18:43.Poulson. Please come and join us. APPLAUSE I've heard a lot about what

:18:44. > :18:51.you are about to show us. And I think you are going to put my egg to

:18:52. > :18:59.shame aren't you? I've brought in one of these. Martin, you've broken

:19:00. > :19:05.it already. This is made entirely of paper, is that right? Yes. How on

:19:06. > :19:12.earth do you do that? Well, I draw, I always look for photos in motion

:19:13. > :19:17.of these birds. I draw a model on a commuter. -- on a computer. After

:19:18. > :19:22.that I'd the legs and everything, and the wings. After that I start to

:19:23. > :19:26.create the skeleton in paper and start to paste each feather. This is

:19:27. > :19:35.the skeleton here that you've got and this is a starling obviously.

:19:36. > :19:44.That is incredible. Fantastic. What and how but start doing this? Well,

:19:45. > :19:49.as I'm from Colombia I love all kinds of birds. What made me feel

:19:50. > :19:59.concerned about them was most of them were domestic. And then I look

:20:00. > :20:03.it at the ones in the wild and studied their movement and their

:20:04. > :20:08.action and their motion. That really caught my attention. I wanted to

:20:09. > :20:15.represent them, to show them in real life. So all your birds are in

:20:16. > :20:20.action. They are all flying. Wow! Oh my goodness me! Look at that. You

:20:21. > :20:29.didn't choose an easy bird there, a bird of paradise. A blue jay as

:20:30. > :20:34.well. Fantastic. And this is all made with paper? Yes. Fantastic. As

:20:35. > :20:41.if one fantastic bird artist isn't enough, we've got two. Tom, you

:20:42. > :20:46.create models of birds out of plastic bricks? Yes, I do. You can

:20:47. > :20:52.see them dotted around the studio. These are fantastic. Which are your

:20:53. > :20:58.favourite ones? My favourite is the robin. He was the inspiration behind

:20:59. > :21:03.the whole project. It was a moment when I was gardening and a robin

:21:04. > :21:08.landed on my fork handle and that gave me the inspiration to start

:21:09. > :21:14.building birds. That's quite a jump from seeing a robin to building one

:21:15. > :21:22.out of Lego. I've always been interested in the plastic bricks.

:21:23. > :21:27.Have you got any plastic bricks? No. I have. My son does them and I had

:21:28. > :21:33.to build the millennium Falconry. It took me four-and-a-half hours.

:21:34. > :21:38.You've probably done a real falcon. It is in the pipeline. This is my

:21:39. > :21:43.favourite, and it is not a bird. It is a badger. Absolutely fantastic.

:21:44. > :21:48.It is so accurate with wits biological detail. You can tell it's

:21:49. > :21:57.a maerlings because it has a wired tail. And if you look very closely

:21:58. > :22:04.it has a subcordal gland as well. I love that. I could do that all day.

:22:05. > :22:09.Brilliant. Thank you very much guys for coming in and sharing those gems

:22:10. > :22:18.with us. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

:22:19. > :22:22.We are now going for some man-made sculptures to some natural ones

:22:23. > :22:29.with. It is where we all get our inspiration from. We've been sent

:22:30. > :22:34.these by Jeff Franklin. He found these on his washing line. That's

:22:35. > :22:41.the most beautiful thing. To someone who is into bugs that is just

:22:42. > :22:47.tessellation. Those are eggs. We can do that. We've got a close-up there.

:22:48. > :22:51.You can see the patterns there. The question is, we don't actually know

:22:52. > :22:57.what eggs they are. We've passed them around the Autumnwatch team.

:22:58. > :23:05.Have you got any idea? I think they are a moth egg, but which moth? Each

:23:06. > :23:11.of those egg different. Someone out there who's been looking at moth

:23:12. > :23:17.eggs for the last 50 years every Sunday with a microscope, made of

:23:18. > :23:21.brass, bought from a boot sale in 1932, polished to perfection, would

:23:22. > :23:26.be able to tell. But they probably haven't got a TV set. We've asked

:23:27. > :23:30.around the Autumnwatch office and no-one's come up with the answer.

:23:31. > :23:35.We've circulated this among various moth experts. The closest is someone

:23:36. > :23:40.thought they might be the eggs of a large yellow underwing, but we don't

:23:41. > :23:46.really know. They only said that because it's the commonest moth,

:23:47. > :23:50.laying eggs on washing lines. This brings forward another little thing

:23:51. > :23:55.nowadays, with all the technology and Autumnwatch, it is quite easy to

:23:56. > :23:59.just ask people to answer your questions for you. Back in the day

:24:00. > :24:04.when Chris and I were little boys, we used to see something like that

:24:05. > :24:08.and we would rear them. We could cut your mother's washing line in

:24:09. > :24:12.sections and rear those and see what cater pillars hatched out and see

:24:13. > :24:15.the whole life cycle unfold and see the adult moth. That's how you

:24:16. > :24:19.answered questions. That's the difference between the acquisition

:24:20. > :24:27.of knowledge and getting information. Very profound. I just

:24:28. > :24:32.eat the cake. We have got another interesting bunch of photos. These

:24:33. > :24:36.have been September in by Ed -- these have been sent in by Edward.

:24:37. > :24:43.They involve a pheasant. This pheasant. Do you notice something

:24:44. > :24:56.going on there? No? The next image is the next pheasant. This animal

:24:57. > :25:00.seems to be changing sex. I know all about bilateral butterflies split

:25:01. > :25:05.down the middle. I don't know anything about sex change. Martin,

:25:06. > :25:08.you do though don't you? I do. Somebody thrust some notes into my

:25:09. > :25:13.hand before the programme. I didn't have time to read them, but the

:25:14. > :25:16.personal story, because my dad used to have pheasants and we had a

:25:17. > :25:20.golden pheasant. It was a hen, and it laid eggses. Gradually over a

:25:21. > :25:26.period of weeks it began to change and it turned into a resplendent

:25:27. > :25:32.golden pheasant cock, which became very aggressive and attacked us all.

:25:33. > :25:40.I understand that one in 500 birds has... You did read those notes!

:25:41. > :25:45.That was from my memory. One in 500 birds is capable of change sex. They

:25:46. > :25:50.think it may be damage to the ovaries that does it. But then of

:25:51. > :26:00.course some fish do it. Lots of molluscs. And limpets. And rass. And

:26:01. > :26:12.their babies are viable. With this, as a female it is sterile and the

:26:13. > :26:16.other males see this as a female. And she hasn't got any wattles. We

:26:17. > :26:24.are running out of time, which is rather sad. We are going to have to

:26:25. > :26:32.go to the quiz. Let's have a look at the birds. Let's look at the map.

:26:33. > :26:42.We've got this bird. Which bird is A, moves from Greenland to us on an

:26:43. > :26:46.annual basis? Shall we ask the audience? A lot of people got them

:26:47. > :26:53.all right. They've been paying attention this week. Graham and

:26:54. > :26:59.Debra and Hannah and Keith and Jo, finally I got the quiz right. It was

:27:00. > :27:07.a difficult week though. Even I couldn't do any of them. B is?

:27:08. > :27:14.Anyone in the audience knows which of these birds is B? Remember

:27:15. > :27:20.Chris's prediction is we won't get many this year. We'll find out in

:27:21. > :27:29.Winter Watch if he is right. And who is leaving this country? It is

:27:30. > :27:38.Michaela's osprey. Brilliant. That is our little quiz. The answer for

:27:39. > :27:46.you, give got the geese, the waxwing, and the osprey is C.

:27:47. > :27:51.Fantastic. Jo, do we have any last comments from the audience, anything

:27:52. > :28:00.of any interest? Lots of people love the cake and are saying, please get

:28:01. > :28:06.on and eat it. And Jack says what do glow worms do in winter? Good

:28:07. > :28:12.question. I believe they crawl under rocks. They do. They move out of the

:28:13. > :28:17.grassland and in underneath bushes, so when they wake up in the spring

:28:18. > :28:24.they can access snails to get them going. This is pretty much it, guys.

:28:25. > :28:28.This is Autumnwatch, and it is over. I have had a great time. I would

:28:29. > :28:32.like to thank all of the contributors, all the audience, all

:28:33. > :28:36.the RSPB at Leighton Moss, because we've made a complete pain of

:28:37. > :28:39.ourselves here. And the runners in particular, Ben and Tim, who have

:28:40. > :28:46.been shuttling us back and forth across the marsh. There's too many

:28:47. > :28:49.people, the Red Button team. Very important. It is too many people to

:28:50. > :28:56.thank but thank you very much guys for inviting me into the family.

:28:57. > :29:00.It's been a lovely team. We'll see you all in Winter Watch. Bye-bye.