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0:00:06 > 0:00:08- Hello and welcome to Ffermio.

0:00:08 > 0:00:10- Our attention - is focused on the news...

0:00:10 > 0:00:14- ..that avian flu was discovered - here in Wales a few weeks ago.

0:00:15 > 0:00:19- During the programme, we'll find out - the latest about the disease.

0:00:19 > 0:00:23- We'll also get expert advice - on how to protect your poultry.

0:00:33 > 0:00:39- Also on the programme, Alun meets - some champion pigs in Llithfaen.

0:00:40 > 0:00:42- It was a big privilege - for us to win.

0:00:43 > 0:00:44- The judges' comments...

0:00:44 > 0:00:47- ..were that the enterprise - was holistic...

0:00:48 > 0:00:52- ..and that the breeding - and pedigree side of things...

0:00:52 > 0:00:55- ..were being combined - with the marketing.

0:00:56 > 0:00:59- We also visit - the Oxford Farming Conference.

0:00:59 > 0:01:04- There were a variety of speakers - and Brexit was the main subject.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11- First, before Christmas...

0:01:11 > 0:01:16- ..it was confirmed that the H5N8 - avian flu strain had reached Wales.

0:01:16 > 0:01:21- What's the latest and how - can we keep our poultry healthy?

0:01:22 > 0:01:26- The first case was found - in a wild duck in Llanelli.

0:01:26 > 0:01:28- Since then, - the virus has been found...

0:01:29 > 0:01:32- ..in a flock of hens and ducks - on a smallholding in Pontyberem...

0:01:33 > 0:01:34- ..and in a wild duck in Conwy.

0:01:35 > 0:01:40- What is the advice of Wales' - Chief Vet, Christianne Glossop?

0:01:41 > 0:01:43- If we're right in assuming...

0:01:43 > 0:01:46- ..that the key risk factor - is wild bird transmission...

0:01:47 > 0:01:51- ..then what everyone with poultry - and any captive birds can do...

0:01:51 > 0:01:54- ..is all they can - to protect their birds...

0:01:54 > 0:01:56- ..from contact - with those wild birds.

0:01:57 > 0:02:02- We know we have infected wild birds - in various parts of Great Britain.

0:02:02 > 0:02:05- So, we can't assume - that any wild bird is safe.

0:02:06 > 0:02:10- We introduced a requirement - across Britain before Christmas...

0:02:10 > 0:02:13- ..that all captive birds - should be brought indoors.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16- We know that's sometimes - not possible.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18- It's difficult - to house certain species.

0:02:19 > 0:02:23- The idea is to break the contact - between wild and domestic birds.

0:02:23 > 0:02:27- At least putting a fine mesh cover - over a pen...

0:02:27 > 0:02:33- ..and making sure that birds are - always fed and watered indoors...

0:02:34 > 0:02:37- ..will reduce the risk of contact - between wild and domestic birds.

0:02:38 > 0:02:39- That's a key thing people can do.

0:02:40 > 0:02:42- Another is to think hard - about biosecurity.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46- There is a real risk - that if someone...

0:02:46 > 0:02:48- ..is out walking or shooting...

0:02:48 > 0:02:51- ..and have direct contact - with a wild bird...

0:02:51 > 0:02:56- ..and then come home without washing - their boots, their hands...

0:02:56 > 0:02:59- ..or worse still, - bring the dead bird home...

0:02:59 > 0:03:01- ..and put it - anywhere near their poultry...

0:03:02 > 0:03:05- ..then there's a risk - their birds could become infected.

0:03:05 > 0:03:07- It's about biosecurity and housing.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11- Since the start of December...

0:03:11 > 0:03:14- ..Wales has been - an avian flu prevention zone.

0:03:14 > 0:03:17- The government - asks keepers of poultry...

0:03:18 > 0:03:21- ..and other captive birds - to keep their birds inside.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25- What does that mean - for poultry farmers...

0:03:25 > 0:03:30- ..like Gareth Jones, the manager - here at Rhug Estate near Corwen?

0:03:31 > 0:03:33- The government guidelines say...

0:03:33 > 0:03:37- ..that everyone who keeps birds - must keep them inside.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39- They're used to being outside.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43- The way we farm is for them - to be outside all day, every day.

0:03:43 > 0:03:46- Now, obviously, - we must keep them indoors.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50- How many hens do you have here?

0:03:50 > 0:03:55- At any one point, we have - between 7,500 and 8,000 hens.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59- Have the confirmed - avian flu cases in the UK...

0:03:59 > 0:04:03- ..affected the business - here at Rhug at all?

0:04:03 > 0:04:07- No, not the Rhug business - as it is presently.

0:04:07 > 0:04:09- We can still export meat.

0:04:10 > 0:04:13- It depends exactly - on where the outbreaks occur.

0:04:13 > 0:04:16- We hope - that there won't be any more.

0:04:16 > 0:04:18- What are your hopes now?

0:04:18 > 0:04:23- They have to stay inside - until 28 February.

0:04:23 > 0:04:25- We know that.

0:04:25 > 0:04:27- That's the target.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29- We hope it will - have cleared up by then...

0:04:30 > 0:04:33- ..and that everything - will be back to normal after that.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36- Leading vet Gareth Edwards...

0:04:37 > 0:04:40- ..is keeping a close eye - on the situation.

0:04:40 > 0:04:44- This strain - doesn't have any unique symptoms.

0:04:44 > 0:04:49- In the cases we have seen, - the birds got ill very quickly.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52- Some die - without showing many symptoms.

0:04:52 > 0:04:56- Others have breathing problems.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59- They can also lose their balance.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- It can affect - their central nervous system.

0:05:02 > 0:05:06- It's a strain - that hits hens and turkeys rapidly.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10- With ducks and geese, - there are sometimes no symptoms...

0:05:11 > 0:05:14- ..but they can carry the virus.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16- The Food Standards Agency says...

0:05:17 > 0:05:19- ..that the meat or eggs - don't pose a risk.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21- We need to be alert just in case.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25- Should people be very worried?

0:05:26 > 0:05:29- Not at the moment. - The risk is quite low.

0:05:29 > 0:05:32- But we must be wary, - follow the guidelines...

0:05:32 > 0:05:35- ..and assess things as we move on.

0:05:37 > 0:05:41- If you're worried about your birds - or discover dead birds...

0:05:42 > 0:05:44- ..contact DEFRA's helpline.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51- It might be a new year...

0:05:52 > 0:05:56- ..but the burning issue at Oxford's - Farming Conference was the same.

0:05:57 > 0:05:58- Brexit.

0:05:58 > 0:06:00- Meinir has more.

0:06:00 > 0:06:06- For 80 years, this conference has - been held in the university town.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10- The theme this year - was Thrive or Survive.

0:06:11 > 0:06:15- It's an apt subject - given the upcoming process...

0:06:16 > 0:06:18- ..of the UK leaving the EU.

0:06:18 > 0:06:21- I've been coming here for 15 years.

0:06:21 > 0:06:26- I think there's more uncertainty - at this year's conference.

0:06:26 > 0:06:30- Yesterday, there was definitely - an atmosphere in the room.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33- Things are changing so much - on the political side.

0:06:33 > 0:06:35- We're coming out of Europe...

0:06:35 > 0:06:40- ..and there's a mood - I haven't noticed before.

0:06:40 > 0:06:44- I have mixed feelings - about this conference.

0:06:44 > 0:06:48- It's a great opportunity to see - what's going on in the industry.

0:06:48 > 0:06:52- At the start of the year, - we're trying to discover...

0:06:52 > 0:06:57- ..which themes will be - at the forefront of politics...

0:06:57 > 0:07:00- ..and what is likely to happen.

0:07:02 > 0:07:06- Every year, the conference starts - with a political session.

0:07:06 > 0:07:10- DEFRA Secretary Andrea Leadsom - was the first to speak.

0:07:10 > 0:07:14- She felt that the EU had held - farmers back over the years...

0:07:14 > 0:07:16- ..but there were few details...

0:07:17 > 0:07:20- ..about UK agricultural policy - outside the EU.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27- Discussions are centred - around Brexit at the moment.

0:07:27 > 0:07:32- As Andrea Leadsom said, - the White Paper is there.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36- The direction the country will take - hasn't been decided...

0:07:36 > 0:07:41- ..so it's an opportunity for farmers - to contribute to the debate.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45- We know that CAP isn't perfect, - the EU isn't perfect.

0:07:45 > 0:07:49- This is a chance - to create something better.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53- That's a question - about specific policy detail...

0:07:53 > 0:07:55- ..that we don't have - at this stage...

0:07:55 > 0:07:59- ..but certainly, during this year, - that is the absolute focus.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02- I admired - Andrea Leadsom's confidence...

0:08:02 > 0:08:05- ..but I felt - that it was misplaced confidence.

0:08:05 > 0:08:10- I was very disappointed - when she was asked a question...

0:08:11 > 0:08:15- ..about the future - of upland sheep farmers.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17- She had no response at all.

0:08:17 > 0:08:20- Does she have - her finger on the pulse...

0:08:20 > 0:08:24- ..of the kind of agriculture - we have in Wales?

0:08:24 > 0:08:28- The strong message that the union - is trying to send out...

0:08:28 > 0:08:32- ..is that the UK should have entry - to the single market...

0:08:33 > 0:08:35- ..tariff-free if possible.

0:08:35 > 0:08:39- The European market is especially - important to us in Wales...

0:08:39 > 0:08:42- ..because so much Welsh lamb - goes there.

0:08:42 > 0:08:45- We also need people - coming to work...

0:08:45 > 0:08:47- ..not just on farms...

0:08:47 > 0:08:52- ..but in the factories - that keep farmers going.

0:08:52 > 0:08:57- Following Andrea Leadsom's speech, - Lesley Griffiths joined a panel...

0:08:58 > 0:09:01- ..that included ministers - and other agriculture spokespersons.

0:09:02 > 0:09:06- I very much see that we will - have a Welsh agricultural policy.

0:09:06 > 0:09:10- However, I absolutely recognize - that there will need to be...

0:09:10 > 0:09:14- ..frameworks in place - following leaving the EU.

0:09:14 > 0:09:15- I was very pleased...

0:09:16 > 0:09:18- ..with the way - that Lesley Griffiths...

0:09:19 > 0:09:24- ..acknowledged the need - for a Welsh policy, if you like...

0:09:24 > 0:09:27- ..within the framework of UK policy.

0:09:27 > 0:09:30- I was pleased to hear her - speaking so positively...

0:09:30 > 0:09:33- ..about establishing Welsh policy.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35- But I would have liked her...

0:09:35 > 0:09:39- ..to show more support - for the Scottish minister.

0:09:39 > 0:09:44- He emphasized the need - to keep the same budget...

0:09:44 > 0:09:49- ..and the first pillar's importance - to the agricultural industry.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53- It wasn't just politicians - that took to the stage.

0:09:53 > 0:09:57- There were speakers - from different fields and countries.

0:09:58 > 0:10:04- I really enjoyed Falcon Coffee's - presentation this morning.

0:10:04 > 0:10:10- It was interesting to hear how his - business developed over the years...

0:10:10 > 0:10:15- ..the challenges he had faced, - his experience of the industry...

0:10:16 > 0:10:20- ..his understanding of his customers - and how he interacts with them.

0:10:20 > 0:10:22- It was great to see.

0:10:23 > 0:10:27- One speaker who stirred things up - was journalist George Monbiot...

0:10:28 > 0:10:34- ..who has been critical of both - the CAP and upland sheep farming.

0:10:34 > 0:10:38- Number two, that farmers being paid - nine pence in the pound...

0:10:39 > 0:10:43- ..for what the produce sells for - in the supermarket is an outrage.

0:10:44 > 0:10:48- The other panellists - were Minette Batters from the NFU...

0:10:48 > 0:10:50- ..vegetable farmer Guy Poskitt...

0:10:51 > 0:10:55- ..and Helen Ghosh, the Director - General of the National Trust.

0:10:57 > 0:10:59- It's a challenge for me as a farmer.

0:10:59 > 0:11:01- I want to produce food.

0:11:01 > 0:11:05- I know I have to look - at the landscape around me.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08- But at the end of the day, - I must make a profit.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11- What George Monbiot - has been talking about...

0:11:12 > 0:11:15- ..doesn't make sense, - especially in the short term.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19- He was saying - that farmers should sell water...

0:11:19 > 0:11:24- ..but where will we get the money - to make the farm flourish?

0:11:24 > 0:11:28- With regards - to what Helen Ghosh had to say...

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- ..she said that her vision...

0:11:33 > 0:11:36- ..was to achieve - a prosperous industry.

0:11:37 > 0:11:39- I obviously agreed with that...

0:11:40 > 0:11:44- ..but when she talked about - her seven important elements...

0:11:44 > 0:11:47- ..one of the most important - was public goods.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51- She didn't say a word about food...

0:11:51 > 0:11:54- ..during those seven key principles.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57- I'd like to remind people...

0:11:57 > 0:12:03- ..that producing food - is a part of the public goods.

0:12:03 > 0:12:07- Keeping people and their culture - in the uplands is a part of it.

0:12:08 > 0:12:12- Keeping the language and industry - is also a part of it.

0:12:12 > 0:12:17- I cannot overemphasize, - in the context of the industry...

0:12:17 > 0:12:23- ..agriculture keeps other industries - within the agricultural communities.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26- To me, that is the essence - of public goods.

0:12:27 > 0:12:31- Among the policy discussions, - there were inspiring stories...

0:12:32 > 0:12:34- ..from crop farmer Alison Capper...

0:12:35 > 0:12:39- ..and Jack Hamilton, from a family - of potato and vegetable farmers...

0:12:40 > 0:12:43- ..about the importance - of building a brand...

0:12:43 > 0:12:47- ..and developing a business - with an emphasis on exporting.

0:12:48 > 0:12:50- We heard in the last session...

0:12:51 > 0:12:56- ..about people exporting - and selling their produce...

0:12:56 > 0:12:58- ..to the rest of the world.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02- Maybe, as producers, - we don't think big enough.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06- We think of our own country - and selling in the local market.

0:13:07 > 0:13:09- Thank goodness - for the last session.

0:13:09 > 0:13:12- We heard from farmers - who are succeeding.

0:13:12 > 0:13:16- I have a lot of confidence - in the farmers around me.

0:13:17 > 0:13:20- Agriculture will be different, - but it has always changed.

0:13:21 > 0:13:23- Our challenge - is to find the best things...

0:13:24 > 0:13:27- ..and to fight our corner - in the world that's out there.

0:13:27 > 0:13:31- I'm sure that in ten years, - the industry will be different.

0:13:31 > 0:13:35- Some will have succeeded, - some won't have, but that's life.

0:13:36 > 0:13:38- But we must accept - the fight that's ahead of us.

0:13:43 > 0:13:44- That's it for now.

0:13:45 > 0:13:49- After the break, Alun meets - the Oinc Oink pig champions.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51- I'll see you in a minute.

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0:14:01 > 0:14:03- Welcome back to Ffermio.

0:14:03 > 0:14:06- Pork is the most popular meat - in the world.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09- More and more people in Wales - are keeping pigs.

0:14:10 > 0:14:13- Alun has been visiting - a husband and wife...

0:14:13 > 0:14:16- ..who have made - a successful business...

0:14:16 > 0:14:18- ..by producing and processing pork.

0:14:22 > 0:14:25- Huw and Ela Roberts - and their children...

0:14:25 > 0:14:31- ..have farmed Ffridd in Llithfaen - near Pwllheli since 2007.

0:14:31 > 0:14:37- Although they keep 40 Welsh Black - cattle and 200 Welsh Mule sheep...

0:14:37 > 0:14:41- ..the pigs get the majority - of their attention these days.

0:14:42 > 0:14:44- We went to the Winter Fair in 2006.

0:14:45 > 0:14:50- That was the first time I heard Huw - say that he wanted to keep a pig.

0:14:50 > 0:14:51- Right.

0:14:51 > 0:14:56- And from there, I asked which breed - he would consider.

0:14:56 > 0:15:01- He said either a Welsh Pig, - or a Black Pig.

0:15:01 > 0:15:07- And I said, as we live in Wales, - we should go for the Welsh breed.

0:15:08 > 0:15:12- You've created - a very well-known brand - Oinc Oink.

0:15:12 > 0:15:16- How did you get the name - and how did the brand develop?

0:15:16 > 0:15:22- My brother in law suggested it - as a joke.

0:15:22 > 0:15:27- We couldn't think - of a better name...

0:15:28 > 0:15:31- ..so that's how it came to be.

0:15:31 > 0:15:32- Tell me a little bit...

0:15:33 > 0:15:38- ..about your recent award - for the pig enterprise?

0:15:39 > 0:15:43- We saw the application form - in one of the pig magazines...

0:15:43 > 0:15:48- ..and thought - it would be worth trying for it.

0:15:48 > 0:15:53- We competed in the Pedigree Breeder - of the Year category.

0:15:54 > 0:16:00- It was a huge success to win in - London amongst all the people there.

0:16:01 > 0:16:03- We were the only Welsh people there.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07- It was a huge honour for us to win.

0:16:09 > 0:16:12- The judges' comments...

0:16:12 > 0:16:16- ..were that the enterprise - was holistic...

0:16:17 > 0:16:20- ..and that the breeding - and pedigree side of things...

0:16:21 > 0:16:24- ..were being combined - with the marketing.

0:16:25 > 0:16:30- And there's history behind us here. - This sow is very special.

0:16:30 > 0:16:32- Yes, she is very special.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35- This is Gwynys Model 307.

0:16:35 > 0:16:38- She's the oldest sow we have here.

0:16:39 > 0:16:43- She has been Champion of Champions - four times.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47- She's the only pig...

0:16:47 > 0:16:53- ..to have won the title four times - in the five years she has competed.

0:16:53 > 0:16:57- She also had the reserve prize - the other year.

0:16:57 > 0:16:59- We're very proud of her.

0:16:59 > 0:17:04- I think she shows the qualities - of the Welsh Pig at its best.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10- The kids have had success - with the pigs.

0:17:11 > 0:17:16- Yes, they've both won pig rearing - competitions, the young handlers...

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- ..in the shows - we've been to this summer.

0:17:20 > 0:17:21- Is this a sow?

0:17:21 > 0:17:22- Is this a sow?- - Yes.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25- Tell me about her history. - That's a different breed.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27- She's a Saddleback.

0:17:27 > 0:17:33- She was covered with a boar - about three months ago.

0:17:33 > 0:17:35- Was she?

0:17:35 > 0:17:38- And the boar's name was Walter.

0:17:39 > 0:17:39- Walter?!

0:17:39 > 0:17:42- Walter?!- - Yes.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44- What is the name of your pig?

0:17:44 > 0:17:45- What is the name of your pig?- - Jean.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48- Jean? Did you choose that name?

0:17:49 > 0:17:51- Yes? Why do you like pigs then?

0:17:52 > 0:17:55- Because I like having sausages.

0:17:55 > 0:18:00- Sausages! Well, that's what - they are, in the end, isn't it?!

0:18:00 > 0:18:01- Yes, yes.

0:18:01 > 0:18:04- And do you like living on a farm?

0:18:06 > 0:18:10- Is it nice living on a farm? - Why is it nice living on a farm?

0:18:10 > 0:18:13- Because of the animals.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16- Because of the animals? - Yes, I'm sure.

0:18:21 > 0:18:25- When the pigs have been fattened, - they're taken to Corwen abattoir...

0:18:25 > 0:18:29- ..and are returned to the farm to be - processed.

0:18:31 > 0:18:34- Here we are in the meat house.

0:18:34 > 0:18:37- It's very tidy.

0:18:37 > 0:18:41- You have everything you need - to process the animal.

0:18:41 > 0:18:46- Yes, we fetch the whole carcass - from Corwen...

0:18:46 > 0:18:52- ..and a butcher comes here - to help us to cut the pig up.

0:18:53 > 0:18:58- Then the meat is packaged and - prepared for the markets...

0:18:58 > 0:19:00- ..and all the sausages - are made here.

0:19:01 > 0:19:05- You've also had to be a butcher, - to all extents and purposes.

0:19:05 > 0:19:11- I've been on a course to learn - some skills to butcher a pig...

0:19:11 > 0:19:13- ..and also to make the sausages.

0:19:13 > 0:19:17- And you've had a lot of success - as a cook in the Winter Fair.

0:19:17 > 0:19:23- It was a great show for us - this year in the Winter Fair.

0:19:23 > 0:19:27- We entered - quite a lot of the produce there.

0:19:27 > 0:19:32- We had a first and a second - in the sausages class.

0:19:32 > 0:19:34- We had a first - in the pork burgers...

0:19:34 > 0:19:39- ..and were very successful - with the sausage rolls.

0:19:39 > 0:19:40- They got 99 out of 100.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43- Are you planning - to grow the business...

0:19:44 > 0:19:48- ..or are you happy being able - to control things as you are?

0:19:48 > 0:19:51- We're hopeless at planning!

0:19:51 > 0:19:55- There was no plan - from the first day a pig came here.

0:19:55 > 0:20:00- We're trying to do it - so that it supports the family.

0:20:00 > 0:20:06- When we need it, - we have staff who help part-time...

0:20:06 > 0:20:09- ..especially - with the hog roast business.

0:20:10 > 0:20:15- We have relatives and friends - who come in at such times.

0:20:15 > 0:20:20- Is that one of the things - that brings you the most profit?

0:20:20 > 0:20:22- Yes, the pig roasting does.

0:20:23 > 0:20:29- That side has grown, and I hope - that for the sake of the business...

0:20:29 > 0:20:32- ..that we'll see - a financial improvement.

0:20:32 > 0:20:36- Where are your customers? - Are they nearby or far away?

0:20:36 > 0:20:38- Everyone's quite local.

0:20:38 > 0:20:42- We started by supplying SPAR - in Pwllheli.

0:20:43 > 0:20:48- From there, it has grown - to supplying local butchers.

0:20:48 > 0:20:52- We go to the market in Porthmadog - on the last Saturday of each month.

0:20:53 > 0:20:56- That has turned out - to be a very good market for us.

0:20:56 > 0:21:00- We have many regular customers - who come back from month to month.

0:21:00 > 0:21:06- We're very lucky that our customers - keep coming back each month.

0:21:06 > 0:21:11- Although the pig business is going - from strength to strength...

0:21:11 > 0:21:16- ..Huw and Ela are very fond of - Welsh Mules and their Welsh Blacks.

0:21:16 > 0:21:20- The sheep and the cattle - were here before the pigs.

0:21:21 > 0:21:27- The Welsh Black cattle - suit us perfectly.

0:21:27 > 0:21:33- There are many bogs on the farm - and they graze those parts...

0:21:33 > 0:21:37- ..and the sheep graze - the best fields on the farm.

0:21:38 > 0:21:41- I'm speaking with you, Huw, - as if you own the cattle.

0:21:42 > 0:21:45- Do you get on well together - as you look after things?

0:21:45 > 0:21:48- I'd better say that we do, - in front of the camera!

0:21:49 > 0:21:53- Huw concentrates more - on the sheep and cattle.

0:21:53 > 0:21:57- As we've started processing - the pork meat on the farm...

0:21:58 > 0:22:01- ..a large part of my time - goes on selling the meat.

0:22:02 > 0:22:06- But when he needs a hand, - I try my best to help.

0:22:07 > 0:22:11- During the lambing season, - I love being out amongst them.

0:22:11 > 0:22:17- And the next generation have a huge - interest in your way of farming.

0:22:18 > 0:22:19- Yes, they love it.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22- They're out with us - every chance they get.

0:22:22 > 0:22:26- In the wind, rain, the sun - - all weather!

0:22:26 > 0:22:29- They love being amongst the stock.

0:22:29 > 0:22:32- From the hens, to the bulls, - they're very happy.

0:22:40 > 0:22:43- That's it for this week. - Thank you for your company.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46- I'll see you - at the same time next week.

0:22:47 > 0:22:48- Goodbye.

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