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0:00:06 > 0:00:10- Do you want to farm but find it - impossible to start or move on?

0:00:10 > 0:00:14- One Ceredigion family - is looking for a business partner.

0:00:15 > 0:00:16- Are you the one?

0:00:25 > 0:00:30- Also tonight, if we're omitted from - European markets after Brexit...

0:00:30 > 0:00:33- ..where will our produce be sold?

0:00:33 > 0:00:38- Welsh producers recently visited - the world's largest food fair...

0:00:38 > 0:00:40- ..to promote their produce.

0:00:41 > 0:00:45- There are buyers at this show - in Dubai from everywhere...

0:00:45 > 0:00:48- ..people from India and China.

0:00:48 > 0:00:51- I hope we can sell to them - in the future.

0:00:58 > 0:01:02- When is the best time to retire - or take a step back?

0:01:02 > 0:01:07- That's a question often posed, - especially in agriculture.

0:01:07 > 0:01:11- Alun's found one way - to deal with the situation.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17- It's an age-old problem - in agriculture.

0:01:17 > 0:01:21- The average age of a farmer is 57.

0:01:21 > 0:01:25- The older generation is reluctant - to pass on the business...

0:01:25 > 0:01:28- ..to youngsters - in a timely fashion...

0:01:28 > 0:01:30- ..but opportunities are available.

0:01:30 > 0:01:35- Sometimes it's as simple as a - meeting of like-minded individuals.

0:01:35 > 0:01:37- Here, in Pantswllt...

0:01:38 > 0:01:41- ..Hywel Davies and his family - keep 400 Holstein Friesian cows...

0:01:42 > 0:01:43- ..on three holdings.

0:01:43 > 0:01:47- They're offering an exciting - opportunity to an individual...

0:01:48 > 0:01:51- ..who wants to develop a career - in the dairy sector.

0:01:52 > 0:01:54- Who is the person - you're searching for?

0:01:55 > 0:02:00- Who would be the ideal person - to apply for this role?

0:02:00 > 0:02:04- More than anything, someone - who wants to move on in agriculture.

0:02:05 > 0:02:09- Someone who wants more - than just working for someone...

0:02:09 > 0:02:12- ..someone who wants to develop - their own value...

0:02:12 > 0:02:15- ..and can use this business - to do so.

0:02:15 > 0:02:19- Is it something - that will last a long time...

0:02:19 > 0:02:24- ..or do you foresee that person - building capital in the business...

0:02:24 > 0:02:26- ..and, if they're ambitious...

0:02:26 > 0:02:30- ..they'll eventually move on - to buy land of their own?

0:02:30 > 0:02:32- Precisely.

0:02:33 > 0:02:37- I'm not expecting someone to come - here and stay for the long term.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39- No more than ten years, I'd say.

0:02:39 > 0:02:43- As you say, - you're looking for someone...

0:02:43 > 0:02:47- ..who wants to build some capital...

0:02:47 > 0:02:52- ..and wants to move on to own a farm - or seek another opportunity.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55- This opportunity - is a step on the ladder.

0:02:56 > 0:03:01- We're searching for people - we have - the land and the resources...

0:03:02 > 0:03:06- ..but to move things forward, - we need people to do it.

0:03:06 > 0:03:12- We're trying to give someone - an ambition or target to reach.

0:03:12 > 0:03:17- That might help us find - a rather different person.

0:03:19 > 0:03:22- Arwel and Mary Davies - used to farm 55 acres...

0:03:22 > 0:03:24- ..in Blaencerdin Fach, Ffostrasol...

0:03:25 > 0:03:28- ..before moving to Pantswllt, - Arwel's home.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30- It's a 120-acre farm.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34- After successfully - growing the business...

0:03:34 > 0:03:38- ..they're now ready to step back - from the daily routine on the farm.

0:03:40 > 0:03:45- There were things we wanted to do - but we didn't have the time.

0:03:45 > 0:03:49- It was always a case of I'll do it - next year or I'll do it tomorrow.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52- We either cut back and do less...

0:03:52 > 0:03:58- ..or we get someone in - with energy...

0:03:58 > 0:04:01- ..to help push - the business forward...

0:04:02 > 0:04:05- ..and maybe take it - in a totally new direction.

0:04:06 > 0:04:11- That's up to that person, - if we find a suitable person.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14- The business has grown so much...

0:04:14 > 0:04:17- ..it's impossible - for one person to manage it.

0:04:17 > 0:04:22- Both us will take a step back, - Hywel will lose two workers.

0:04:22 > 0:04:26- How much did you discuss the - situation? It was a big decision.

0:04:26 > 0:04:29- Were you all agreed - on the way forward?

0:04:30 > 0:04:32- We were agreed - about the way forward.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35- It's not a decision we made hastily.

0:04:35 > 0:04:39- We discussed it at length, - over two years.

0:04:41 > 0:04:43- It's come to this point...

0:04:44 > 0:04:49- ..where we definitely want to work - less hours in the business.

0:04:49 > 0:04:56- You also took the decision - to pull Hywel into the business.

0:04:56 > 0:04:58- That was a major step forward.

0:04:59 > 0:05:03- It's something - that a lot of farmers forget to do.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07- They leave the inheritance - to the son or daughter...

0:05:07 > 0:05:11- ..but don't pass on - the responsibility early enough.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13- I'm not sure how long ago it was...

0:05:14 > 0:05:19- ..but we agreed on a value - for the business...

0:05:19 > 0:05:23- ..and we split it up - into three parts.

0:05:23 > 0:05:27- Hywel bought the business.

0:05:27 > 0:05:34- From there on, with his profit, - he's bought another farm since then.

0:05:36 > 0:05:41- The same could happen - with a non-family member.

0:05:41 > 0:05:45- The relationship is the same - whether you're related nor not.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47- The business comes first.

0:05:47 > 0:05:53- That's what sustains us all. Without - the business, no-one will benefit.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57- Farming Connect - have a scheme called Venture...

0:05:57 > 0:06:02- ..with the aim of pairing farmers - with farm workers...

0:06:03 > 0:06:06- ..who want to develop a career - in the agriculture industry.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09- The Pantswllt family - contacted us directly.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12- We manage the Venture scheme.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17- In truth, - it's a match-making service.

0:06:17 > 0:06:24- The aim is to bring newcomers - and established farmers together...

0:06:24 > 0:06:27- ..when farmers - want to take a step back...

0:06:27 > 0:06:30- ..from the daily routine - of running a business.

0:06:31 > 0:06:33- We help them establish - a joint venture...

0:06:33 > 0:06:36- ..with the aim of seeing them - farm together.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40- Six people - have shown an interest so far.

0:06:40 > 0:06:45- I'd encourage anyone who has - an interest to get in touch.

0:06:45 > 0:06:51- The opportunity at Pantswllt might - not be suitable for everyone...

0:06:51 > 0:06:54- ..but if anyone is interested - in the scheme...

0:06:54 > 0:06:59- ..whether they're looking for, - or offering, an opportunity...

0:06:59 > 0:07:01- ..get in touch with us.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05- The Venture scheme shows - that joint ventures...

0:07:06 > 0:07:09- ..is something - any farming business can consider.

0:07:10 > 0:07:12- It offers something to everyone.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14- It offers something to everyone.- - It's a courageous decision.

0:07:14 > 0:07:19- We constantly hear of a lack - of opportunities for young farmers.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21- This provides an opportunity...

0:07:21 > 0:07:26- ..but a new partner could have ideas - that would take the farm...

0:07:26 > 0:07:30- ..in a different direction - to the one you're taking now.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33- That's definitely as possibility...

0:07:34 > 0:07:38- ..but we're quite open - to the type of thing we want.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41- We're not tied - to one way in particular.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45- We're not saying - we can't work with someone.

0:07:46 > 0:07:48- I have an interest - in all kinds of systems...

0:07:49 > 0:07:52- ..and profitable systems - more than anything.

0:07:57 > 0:08:00- As we face a future - outside the single market...

0:08:01 > 0:08:05- ..we must ask if there is a future - in rearing lambs like these.

0:08:05 > 0:08:09- With Brexit on the horizon, - it's more important than ever...

0:08:09 > 0:08:12- ..for the government - and Welsh companies...

0:08:12 > 0:08:16- ..to negotiate with companies - and traders across the world.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21- Gulf Food in Dubai - is the world's largest food fair.

0:08:22 > 0:08:27- Almost 100,000 traders are here - to meet 5,000 exhibitors.

0:08:27 > 0:08:32- The Welsh Government are here - to promote Welsh produce.

0:08:34 > 0:08:40- I'm here at Gulf Food to support - our 25 fantastic Welsh companies.

0:08:40 > 0:08:44- Some of them have been here before. - For some, it's the first time.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48- All of them are saying - it's worthwhile coming here...

0:08:48 > 0:08:51- ..to make contacts - and get new contracts.

0:08:51 > 0:08:55- They're saying they're making good - contacts and winning new contracts.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59- Expo 2020 is going to be in Dubai.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02- I had meetings yesterday - and visited the site.

0:09:02 > 0:09:07- They're looking for food and drink - companies to put bids in first...

0:09:07 > 0:09:10- ..and hopefully secure work - later on.

0:09:10 > 0:09:14- It's really important we're - in Dubai, here on St David's Day.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17- We're showcasing Wales at its best.

0:09:17 > 0:09:23- 35% of Welsh lamb is exported - to European Union countries.

0:09:23 > 0:09:27- Since 2006, - lamb has been sold in this country.

0:09:27 > 0:09:32- Are there more opportunities here - to promote Welsh lamb...

0:09:32 > 0:09:37- ..especially with the clock ticking - to find new markets after Brexit?

0:09:37 > 0:09:42- Markets such as the Dubai market - are very important to Welsh lamb.

0:09:43 > 0:09:45- It's a growing - and developing market.

0:09:46 > 0:09:50- There are many other markets - and buyers here in Dubai...

0:09:50 > 0:09:52- ..from across the world.

0:09:52 > 0:09:56- There are people here - from India and China...

0:09:56 > 0:10:00- ..and markets such as - Qatar and Bahrain.

0:10:00 > 0:10:04- We can sell to them and we need - to nurture relationships with them.

0:10:04 > 0:10:08- I hope we can sell to them - in the near future.

0:10:08 > 0:10:14- It's also important for us if - Saudi Arabia opens up as a market.

0:10:14 > 0:10:19- We'll have a right to sell to Saudi - Arabia within six months to a year.

0:10:20 > 0:10:23- 80 million people live there - and they eat lamb.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26- It's also a market - with plenty of buyers.

0:10:27 > 0:10:32- The market in Britain - is dependant on leg and chop cuts.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34- They're popular in Britain.

0:10:35 > 0:10:39- To secure a competitive price - for lamb in Britain...

0:10:40 > 0:10:44- ..we need to find a market - for the less popular cuts...

0:10:44 > 0:10:47- ..the shoulder and similar cuts.

0:10:48 > 0:10:52- The value of the markets - that accept the different cuts...

0:10:52 > 0:10:56- ..means that our lamb - is more competitive at home...

0:10:56 > 0:11:01- ..and it also means we can - 'balance the carcass'...

0:11:01 > 0:11:04- ..that's the term we tend to use.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07- These markets, along with Europe...

0:11:07 > 0:11:10- ..allow us to do so effectively.

0:11:10 > 0:11:15- The food industry is valued globally - at five trillion pounds...

0:11:16 > 0:11:18- ..and it continues to grow.

0:11:18 > 0:11:22- There is a special exhibition - in Dubai of meat and dairy products.

0:11:23 > 0:11:25- Rhian Williams from Plas Farm...

0:11:25 > 0:11:30- ..has travelled all the way - from Anglesey with her yogurt.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- This is our third visit - to Gulf Food.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38- You meet a lot of distributors - and wholesalers here.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40- It's important for us to be here.

0:11:40 > 0:11:44- It's also important to have help - from the Welsh Government.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50- Three or four of our most important - customers are in Europe.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54- We're slightly concerned about that.

0:11:54 > 0:11:59- We attend events like this to - access markets in Dubai and China.

0:12:00 > 0:12:04- We're looking further afield - to increase our business.

0:12:04 > 0:12:06- It's a great experience.

0:12:07 > 0:12:12- This morning, we were joined by - Cabinet Secretary Lesley Griffiths.

0:12:12 > 0:12:17- Having someone from the Welsh - Government here to support us...

0:12:17 > 0:12:19- ..it's brilliant.

0:12:19 > 0:12:21- They like seeing that in Dubai.

0:12:21 > 0:12:24- It's important for them to see...

0:12:24 > 0:12:30- ..how important it is for you, - as a company and a country...

0:12:30 > 0:12:32- ..to be present here in Dubai.

0:12:36 > 0:12:41- The British Embassy in Dubai - organised a special reception...

0:12:41 > 0:12:45- ..to celebrate St David's Day - with Welsh produce on show.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49- Celebrity chef Gary Rhodes - was hard at work.

0:12:49 > 0:12:54- Here, Lesley Griffiths announced - funding of 2.4m for Wales...

0:12:54 > 0:12:58- ..to promote Welsh food and drink - across the world....

0:12:58 > 0:13:00- ..over the next two years.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03- ..an outward, focused - and welcoming nation...

0:13:04 > 0:13:07- We're out there showing that Welsh - is a welcoming nation...

0:13:07 > 0:13:11- ..and we want to do business - with new markets.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14- Many people - from the food and drink sector...

0:13:14 > 0:13:17- ..have contracts in the Middle East.

0:13:17 > 0:13:21- Having spent the day at Gulf Food, - it's clear to see...

0:13:21 > 0:13:24- ..how well received - Welsh food and drink companies are.

0:13:24 > 0:13:28- Many of the guests - work in the food sector.

0:13:28 > 0:13:31- For one, it was a chance - to reacquaint himself...

0:13:31 > 0:13:32- ..with Welsh culture.

0:13:33 > 0:13:37- I spent eight years in Wales, - in Swansea predominantly...

0:13:37 > 0:13:40- ..of course, - visiting the rest of Wales.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43- It was really to study - and I did my first degree...

0:13:44 > 0:13:46- ..and my doctorate - at the University of Swansea.

0:13:47 > 0:13:52- It is fantastic to see Wales - coming and representing itself...

0:13:52 > 0:13:55- ..in Dubai and the UAE, - I think it's well overdue.

0:13:56 > 0:13:57- Welcome to Dubai!

0:14:00 > 0:14:02- That's all for Part 1.

0:14:03 > 0:14:08- In Part 2, Daloni meets farmer - and scientist Dr Prysor Williams.

0:14:08 > 0:14:10- We'll see you soon.

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0:14:20 > 0:14:25- The emphasis on managing the - environment in a farming context...

0:14:25 > 0:14:28- ..has increased greatly - in recent years.

0:14:28 > 0:14:33- Daloni met one man who combines - both aspects successfully every day.

0:14:38 > 0:14:44- Pen y Fron, Gwytherin, Llanrwst - is home to Dr Prysor Williams...

0:14:44 > 0:14:46- ..and his wife, Elin.

0:14:46 > 0:14:51- Prysor Williams is Senior Lecturer - in Environmental Management...

0:14:51 > 0:14:53- ..in Bangor University.

0:14:56 > 0:14:59- How do you combine - farming and lecturing?

0:14:59 > 0:15:05- I'm always juggling both things, - and one or two other things.

0:15:05 > 0:15:09- Long days is one of the ways I cope.

0:15:09 > 0:15:13- I try and do some work on my laptop - before going out in the morning.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17- I get a lot of help - which is so important...

0:15:17 > 0:15:20- ..from family and neighbours.

0:15:20 > 0:15:23- I do some work - before heading to Bangor...

0:15:23 > 0:15:27- ..do a day's work in Bangor and - do some more work when I get home.

0:15:28 > 0:15:32- I grab any spare time I have - to work.

0:15:32 > 0:15:36- It usually comes together - but not every time.

0:15:38 > 0:15:40- Elin works - for the Welsh Books Council.

0:15:40 > 0:15:44- She shares the responsibilities - on the farm with Prysor.

0:15:45 > 0:15:49- Elin and Prysor, - you've been here for eight months.

0:15:49 > 0:15:51- How are things going?

0:15:51 > 0:15:53- We're still in one piece.

0:15:54 > 0:15:56- So far so good as they say.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00- I'm a local lad but you're not.

0:16:03 > 0:16:06- I used to live 30 miles away - at my home in Llandegla.

0:16:06 > 0:16:10- It was more of a change for you - than it was for me...

0:16:10 > 0:16:14- ..but it was quite an undertaking - to buy this farm.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16- It happened quickly.

0:16:16 > 0:16:18- Too quickly!

0:16:18 > 0:16:22- I just thought, - well, let's give it a go...

0:16:22 > 0:16:25- ..and we'll worry about it again.

0:16:25 > 0:16:29- If things go wrong... - So far, things have gone well.

0:16:29 > 0:16:33- You don't look like the type - that worries about anything, Prysor.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36- I worry for him.

0:16:36 > 0:16:39- Elin's the worrier, - I'm more laid-back.

0:16:42 > 0:16:45- They both come - from farming backgrounds.

0:16:45 > 0:16:49- The academic life - is also important to Prysor.

0:16:49 > 0:16:52- As a senior lecturer - in the university...

0:16:52 > 0:16:55- ..what do you do, - what's your speciality?

0:16:56 > 0:16:58- I do a lot on the teaching side.

0:16:58 > 0:17:02- That's an important part - of any lecturing role.

0:17:02 > 0:17:05- I lead three different courses - in the university.

0:17:05 > 0:17:10- The research side is an important - part of the work we do...

0:17:10 > 0:17:12- ..in Bangor University.

0:17:12 > 0:17:15- About half our time - is dedicated to research.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18- That's important - in terms of the learning...

0:17:18 > 0:17:21- ..combining research - with learning...

0:17:21 > 0:17:26- ..to let students hear about the - recent developments in their fields.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30- My research involves - a variety of different subjects...

0:17:31 > 0:17:34- ..mostly bridging between - agriculture and the environment.

0:17:34 > 0:17:38- Many of the technologies - we've already looked at.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40- Digestion is an obvious one.

0:17:40 > 0:17:44- It is relevant to the treatment of - and management of livestock waste...

0:17:45 > 0:17:48- ..and even animal waste - more broadly.

0:17:48 > 0:17:52- Have you seen both worlds, - environment and agriculture...

0:17:52 > 0:17:55- ..getting closer in recent times?

0:17:55 > 0:18:00- I think they'll be closer in - the future, for different reasons.

0:18:01 > 0:18:05- We're leaving Europe, whether - you support or oppose that idea.

0:18:05 > 0:18:07- That's likely to happen.

0:18:07 > 0:18:12- We know that the payments, - and their structure, will change.

0:18:12 > 0:18:17- I believe the payments will be - directed towards the environment...

0:18:17 > 0:18:21- ..if not entirely - towards the environment.

0:18:21 > 0:18:26- I don't think farmers will receive - a payment just for owning land.

0:18:27 > 0:18:28- As a result of that...

0:18:28 > 0:18:33- ..agriculture and the environment - will become closer...

0:18:33 > 0:18:37- ..but it is inevitable - for it to happen.

0:18:37 > 0:18:41- Over the years, - a lot of farms have benefitted...

0:18:41 > 0:18:44- ..from agri-environmental schemes.

0:18:44 > 0:18:49- A lot of farmers will say it's - an important part of their income.

0:18:51 > 0:18:54- I'm sure there's more room - for manoeuvre.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01- It's never-ending, Prysor.

0:19:01 > 0:19:04- It's never-ending, Prysor.- - Well, it won't take care of itself.

0:19:04 > 0:19:06- We've had a good winter...

0:19:06 > 0:19:10- ..and we're trying to get - as much out of the land as we can.

0:19:10 > 0:19:15- We're hoping the grass will start - to grow from the middle of March.

0:19:15 > 0:19:21- You're balancing well between - the agriculture on the farm...

0:19:21 > 0:19:23- ..and the academic world.

0:19:23 > 0:19:27- I don't know, there are times - when it's not so balanced...

0:19:27 > 0:19:30- ..and one takes precedent - over the other.

0:19:30 > 0:19:35- I feel fortunate - to be doing two different jobs...

0:19:35 > 0:19:37- ..which are closely connected.

0:19:37 > 0:19:42- Congratulations too on winning the - Eilir Hedd Morgan Memorial Prize.

0:19:42 > 0:19:43- What was it awarded for?

0:19:44 > 0:19:47- Someone nominated me - - I still don't know who...

0:19:47 > 0:19:51- ..for my work teaching the sciences - through the medium of Welsh.

0:19:51 > 0:19:56- I was good friends with Eilir, - we sang in the same singing group...

0:19:56 > 0:19:59- ..and in the short time - he had in his job...

0:19:59 > 0:20:04- ..Eilir made a huge contribution - to the world of science in Welsh.

0:20:04 > 0:20:08- He was a great researcher - and a fervent Welshman.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11- His family introduced - a memorial prize in his name.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15- I'm sure they'll be happy - that you won this year.

0:20:15 > 0:20:16- We'll see.

0:20:22 > 0:20:25- Pen y Fron isn't a large farm - these days.

0:20:25 > 0:20:29- Most of the land - was sold off many years ago.

0:20:29 > 0:20:34- There are numerous sheds here. - They used to milk cows here.

0:20:34 > 0:20:40- We've been rearing cows - - we have a herd of dairy heifers.

0:20:41 > 0:20:45- Up until a few years ago, - the demand had dropped...

0:20:45 > 0:20:48- ..with so many dairy farmers around.

0:20:48 > 0:20:51- Since then, - we've been buying store cattle.

0:20:52 > 0:20:56- This year, - we've started buying ewes.

0:20:56 > 0:21:00- We'll be keeping them empty - until September or October...

0:21:00 > 0:21:04- ..with the intention - of selling them on then.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07- Over the winter, - we take other people's cattle in.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11- We have a lot of sheds - for the amount of land we have.

0:21:12 > 0:21:14- We can keep a lot of stock - over the winter...

0:21:14 > 0:21:17- ..more than we can keep - over the summer.

0:21:17 > 0:21:22- The cattle are in one shed but - there's one shed in Pen y Fron...

0:21:23 > 0:21:26- ..which is used - for different events.

0:21:27 > 0:21:29- This is a huge shed, Prysor.

0:21:29 > 0:21:34- Yes, a huge shed. It took days, - if not weeks, for me to paint it.

0:21:34 > 0:21:37- It looks better now.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40- What do you do with it? - Is it full of cattle or sheep?

0:21:40 > 0:21:42- Not during the winter.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46- We use it to keep hay - and farm machinery.

0:21:46 > 0:21:51- From spring time onwards - all the way through until winter...

0:21:51 > 0:21:54- ..we organise events.

0:21:54 > 0:21:59- We'll be organising much more but - we've already hosted quite a few.

0:21:59 > 0:22:01- They've all been well received.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04- You had your wedding reception here.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08- Yes, our wedding reception was here.

0:22:08 > 0:22:14- We were looking for venues and we - decided to host the reception here.

0:22:14 > 0:22:16- We had a wonderful day.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19- The sun shone in the middle - of some inclement weather.

0:22:20 > 0:22:24- Prysor is a busy man - but his passion for work is obvious.

0:22:25 > 0:22:28- I wear two hats in some ways.

0:22:28 > 0:22:33- I can look at the agricultural - side with my work in Bangor...

0:22:33 > 0:22:35- ..and the other way around.

0:22:35 > 0:22:39- It keeps my feet on the ground - in terms of research.

0:22:39 > 0:22:45- Communicating the message to farmers - is one of the best parts of the job.

0:22:45 > 0:22:49- I can transfer the message - from the research world to farms...

0:22:49 > 0:22:51- ..but what's just as important - to me...

0:22:52 > 0:22:56- ..is taking the agricultural - perspective back to the researchers.

0:22:56 > 0:23:00- There's been little debate between - the two sides over the years.

0:23:00 > 0:23:04- Now that I'm wearing both hats, - I'm in a very fortunate position.

0:23:15 > 0:23:19- That's all for this week. - We're back next week.

0:23:19 > 0:23:22- We'll be taking - a closer look at Brexit...

0:23:22 > 0:23:25- ..and its impact on upland farmers.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28- Until then, thanks for your company. - Cheerio.

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