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0:00:06 > 0:00:10- I'm sure we're all assessing - our businesses...
0:00:10 > 0:00:15- ..trying to find - sustainable income for the future.
0:00:15 > 0:00:20- In tonight's programme, we meet - two families who've done so...
0:00:20 > 0:00:22- ..in very different ways.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34- Also tonight, we visit one farm...
0:00:35 > 0:00:38- ..where some buildings - are used as a children's nursery.
0:00:39 > 0:00:43- I've wanted to open a nursery - since I was a young girl.
0:00:43 > 0:00:49- We looked at what we could change on - the farm to incorporate a nursery.
0:00:49 > 0:00:53- We'll also report from the annual - NFU conference in Birmingham.
0:00:57 > 0:01:00- The O'Neill report, - published last year...
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- ..covered the over-reliance - on antibiotic drugs...
0:01:04 > 0:01:07- ..in the NHS and in agriculture.
0:01:07 > 0:01:12- The government has taken steps - to lower the use in agriculture.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15- This week, - Alun spoke to one farmer...
0:01:15 > 0:01:19- ..who's implementing - the changes right now.
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- Plas Llandegfan, Anglesey, - is the home of Arwyn Jones.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33- He farms 900 acres - in partnership with his mother.
0:01:33 > 0:01:38- They keep over 1,000 cross Suffolk - ewes and 300 mule ewes.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41- They are currently - in the middle of lambing.
0:01:43 > 0:01:45- Most have them have come in...
0:01:45 > 0:01:48- ..since the end of November - and December.
0:01:48 > 0:01:52- We get them in early - to let the grass grow for them.
0:01:52 > 0:01:54- That saves us - buying feed for them.
0:01:54 > 0:01:57- You see yourself - as a pasture farmer.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- Oh, yes, yes. - There's no doubt about that.
0:02:01 > 0:02:04- Last year, we left the sheep out - a little bit longer...
0:02:04 > 0:02:06- ..only a fortnight longer...
0:02:07 > 0:02:10- ..and I wouldn't say - it was a bad season...
0:02:11 > 0:02:15- ..but we turned out a tonne and - a half of feed daily in the fields.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18- This year, - it's no more than two bags a day.
0:02:18 > 0:02:20- It's ultimately a huge saving.
0:02:21 > 0:02:26- It shows how the weather - influences any season.
0:02:27 > 0:02:30- Oh, yes. This year, - the weather's been fantastic.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33- There's only been a handful - of rainy days in the past month.
0:02:34 > 0:02:36- It's been a great help.
0:02:36 > 0:02:40- The sheep and lambs are out and - there's no need to worry about them.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47- This year, Arwyn is working closely - with Farming Connect...
0:02:47 > 0:02:50- ..to reduce - the use of antibiotics...
0:02:50 > 0:02:54- ..and encourage - more responsible use of medication.
0:02:54 > 0:02:59- Blood samples are taken to test - the level of immunoglobulin...
0:02:59 > 0:03:03- ..which gives an indication - of the quality of colostrum.
0:03:03 > 0:03:06- Sheep are weighed, - from birth to the abattoir...
0:03:07 > 0:03:09- ..to monitor the rate of growth.
0:03:09 > 0:03:13- Farming Connect have visited - the farm for the past year.
0:03:13 > 0:03:16- They went through everything - with us.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18- We assessed the business...
0:03:18 > 0:03:21- ..and realised we were spending - a lot on doses.
0:03:22 > 0:03:25- We looked at the antibiotics...
0:03:25 > 0:03:30- ..and I know I spend a lot more - per sheep than the average.
0:03:30 > 0:03:34- We checked to see - where the money was being spent.
0:03:34 > 0:03:36- Have you received the results?
0:03:37 > 0:03:39- Oh, yes.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42- We always test silage - - we took a ration off the silage.
0:03:43 > 0:03:44- We use 19% nuggets.
0:03:44 > 0:03:48- We test the silage to check - how much nuggets we use.
0:03:48 > 0:03:51- That's what we've done every year.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55- This year, we metabolically profiled - the sheep...
0:03:55 > 0:03:58- ..by testing their blood - for energy levels.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01- I thought everything was fine.
0:04:01 > 0:04:06- The first results showed - we were deficient by three joules.
0:04:06 > 0:04:10- We increased the feed 125 grams...
0:04:10 > 0:04:11- Per sheep?
0:04:11 > 0:04:13- Per sheep?- - Per sheep.
0:04:13 > 0:04:17- Having done so, - we tested again after lambing...
0:04:18 > 0:04:21- ..and tested the colostrum and - found that it had made a difference.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25- This project - is something I can do every year.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28- I can take a sample - from every batch.
0:04:29 > 0:04:32- You're already seeing - positive results.
0:04:32 > 0:04:33- Definitely.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37- We had one batch - right at the beginning...
0:04:37 > 0:04:40- ..and we didn't - give them antibiotics.
0:04:40 > 0:04:46- We tested those lambs and - the colostrum level was very high...
0:04:46 > 0:04:48- ..and the antibody levels were high.
0:04:49 > 0:04:51- That gives me confidence - in the system.
0:04:51 > 0:04:56- Working side by side with that - system, on the technical side...
0:04:56 > 0:05:00- ..hygiene is very important for you - and you adhere to it fully.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04- I'm thinking of taking - someone on part time.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07- We clean out every single pen...
0:05:07 > 0:05:09- ..and lime the empty pens.
0:05:09 > 0:05:13- Paying a wage to that person, - I know it's a cost...
0:05:13 > 0:05:18- ..but if we can make savings - on the lambs and the antibiotics...
0:05:18 > 0:05:20- ..it pays for itself.
0:05:20 > 0:05:25- This year, we started cleaning out - the sheep sheds every fortnight.
0:05:25 > 0:05:27- One batch lasts for a fortnight.
0:05:27 > 0:05:31- When one batch has been lambed, - we clean out before the next.
0:05:32 > 0:05:35- Today, vet Kate Hovers - continues to test the herd...
0:05:35 > 0:05:39- ..and Gethin Davies from - Farming Connect is also visiting...
0:05:40 > 0:05:42- ..with an update on the project.
0:05:42 > 0:05:46- We're all aware of the risks - of antibiotic resistance.
0:05:47 > 0:05:52- I'm not in general practice anymore. - I do some consultancy work.
0:05:52 > 0:05:57- I work in the lab in Aberystwyth, - the Wales Veterinary Science Centre.
0:05:57 > 0:06:01- From that side, we see - when animals have died of disease...
0:06:01 > 0:06:05- ..and we'll send samples away - to find out what bacteria.
0:06:05 > 0:06:08- We'll see resistance - to antibiotics there...
0:06:09 > 0:06:11- ..as well as in the human medicine.
0:06:11 > 0:06:14- We need to control - antibiotic use for animals.
0:06:14 > 0:06:18- Antibiotics are very useful - to treat disease when we need to...
0:06:18 > 0:06:24- ..but the right antibiotic at - the right amount at the right time.
0:06:24 > 0:06:27- So Gethin, - what inspired this project?
0:06:27 > 0:06:32- Did it come from the farmers - or was it something you suggested?
0:06:33 > 0:06:36- Arwyn was concerned they were - using too much antibiotics.
0:06:36 > 0:06:40- It's a timely subject, there's been - a lot of speculation about it.
0:06:40 > 0:06:44- There are reports - in the newspapers almost daily...
0:06:44 > 0:06:47- ..about antibiotic use - in agriculture.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50- At the moment, - I think the sheep sector...
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- ..is being reflected - rather favourably.
0:06:54 > 0:06:58- It's not been given the same - attention as other sectors...
0:06:58 > 0:07:02- ..but it's encouraging - to see Welsh farmers showing...
0:07:02 > 0:07:06- ..that they are at the forefront - and being proactive....
0:07:06 > 0:07:08- ..in dealing with the problem.
0:07:08 > 0:07:11- They are actively trying - to decrease the use.
0:07:12 > 0:07:16- It seems that the colostrum - is doing the work of the antibiotic.
0:07:17 > 0:07:20- At times, there's no need - to use the antibiotic.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- It's important to look after - the welfare of the lamb initially...
0:07:25 > 0:07:27- ..with enough - high quality colostrum.
0:07:28 > 0:07:33- Hopefully, that decreases - the need to use antibiotics.
0:07:33 > 0:07:35- Is this process expensive?
0:07:36 > 0:07:40- Would it deter some farmers - from using it?
0:07:40 > 0:07:42- I wouldn't say it was expensive.
0:07:42 > 0:07:47- We test the metabolic profile - of the sheep.
0:07:47 > 0:07:50- That costs 120 for 20 sheep.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53- We choose a cross-section - of sheep...
0:07:53 > 0:07:58- ..single lambs, single sheep, twins - and sheep carrying three lambs.
0:07:58 > 0:08:03- I'm sure anyone would agree, - with the number of sheep he has...
0:08:03 > 0:08:06- ..it makes perfect economic sense.
0:08:07 > 0:08:12- Ultimately, we're trying to improve - the efficiency of Arwyn's business.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14- We're reducing his vet bills...
0:08:14 > 0:08:18- ..and improving the efficiency - of his herd at the same time.
0:08:18 > 0:08:20- A win-win situation.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24- Farming Connect have organised - many events.
0:08:24 > 0:08:29- For more information, visit their - website or contact them by phone.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32- That's all for now.
0:08:32 > 0:08:37- In Part 2, Meinir meets a family - of farmers from Carmarthenshire...
0:08:38 > 0:08:42- ..who've adapted old farm buildings - in a rather unusual way.
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0:08:53 > 0:08:55- Welcome back.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58- Many farms have been forced - to diversify...
0:08:58 > 0:09:00- ..to increase the farm's income.
0:09:00 > 0:09:05- Meinir has visited one successful - venture in the Tywi valley.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07- Here's the story.
0:09:11 > 0:09:17- Gareth and Ann Davies keep sheep - and 120 Holstein dairy cows...
0:09:17 > 0:09:20- ..at the family farm - in Llanarthney, Carmarthenshire.
0:09:21 > 0:09:26- They've adapted an old barn - into a nursery for young children.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29- Daughter Gwenllian - has the responsibility...
0:09:29 > 0:09:31- ..of looking after the children.
0:09:32 > 0:09:36- I've wanted to open a nursery - since I was a young girl.
0:09:36 > 0:09:40- I'd looked at different locations - in the area.
0:09:41 > 0:09:44- We looked at what - we could adapt on the farm...
0:09:44 > 0:09:48- ..to allow us to have - a nursery close to home.
0:09:49 > 0:09:53- We wanted to make the farm - part of the nursery.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- Where do the children come from?
0:09:57 > 0:10:00- They come from across - the whole area.
0:10:00 > 0:10:04- Some come from Cross Hands - and the Gwendraeth valley.
0:10:04 > 0:10:09- Some come from Llandeilo, - we have one family from Ammanford.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- Most choose us - because of the farm...
0:10:12 > 0:10:15- ..and the option - of spending time outside.
0:10:15 > 0:10:20- If that means an extra 10 minutes - on the daily commute, they'll do it.
0:10:20 > 0:10:24- What outdoor activities - do you organise for the children?
0:10:24 > 0:10:27- We're outside at least twice a day.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30- In the morning, - we go for a walk down the lane.
0:10:31 > 0:10:35- We're here, out the back, - every afternoon.
0:10:35 > 0:10:40- We have bikes, - a mud kitchen, sand...
0:10:40 > 0:10:44- ..vegetables, fruit and trees.
0:10:44 > 0:10:48- It all depends on the seasons - and the weather conditions.
0:10:48 > 0:10:51- The activities change - from week to week.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56- We visit the farm buildings - during lambing and to see the cows.
0:10:56 > 0:10:59- Dad also brings the animals - up to the nursery...
0:10:59 > 0:11:02- ..and also leaves them - in the nearby fields...
0:11:03 > 0:11:06- ..so that the children can see them.
0:11:06 > 0:11:10- Most of the staff are local. - How many do you employ?
0:11:10 > 0:11:13- We have a team of 10 staff.
0:11:13 > 0:11:19- We all speak Welsh and that helps - the children learn Welsh.
0:11:20 > 0:11:23- Gwenllian's sisters have left home.
0:11:24 > 0:11:27- Cerys works as a dentist - and Sian is a psychologist.
0:11:27 > 0:11:33- This unique development has allowed - Gwenllian to stay close to home...
0:11:34 > 0:11:36- ..on the family farm.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39- How great was the decision - to do something like this?
0:11:40 > 0:11:42- It's a big decision - and a major investment.
0:11:43 > 0:11:46- From our point of view, - for the farm's business...
0:11:46 > 0:11:49- ..and also for Gareth's mother.
0:11:49 > 0:11:53- If she hadn't been happy - with all the cars arriving daily...
0:11:53 > 0:11:59- ..and all this new life on the farm, - we would have stopped it then.
0:12:00 > 0:12:04- She was more than happy - to allow us to adapt the building...
0:12:04 > 0:12:09- ..and give Gwenllian the opportunity - to establish a business...
0:12:10 > 0:12:16- ..and help her develop her business - within the community.
0:12:16 > 0:12:20- One of Gwenllian's strengths - is her experience in this field.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23- She's only 23 years old...
0:12:23 > 0:12:27- ..and we started the business - when she was 20 years old.
0:12:27 > 0:12:29- She did her A Levels - with this in mind.
0:12:29 > 0:12:33- She completed her business plan - as part of her business course.
0:12:34 > 0:12:39- She worked in nurseries in Cardiff, - St Clears and Trinity College.
0:12:39 > 0:12:44- She also worked as an au pair - in Italy for three months.
0:12:44 > 0:12:48- For you, it meant restructuring - the business, Gareth.
0:12:50 > 0:12:53- We didn't have any plans - for that building...
0:12:53 > 0:12:55- ..so that worked out for us.
0:12:56 > 0:13:00- She also wanted some of the field - as a children's playground.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03- You had to find another field - for lambing though!
0:13:03 > 0:13:07- Yes, but we wanted to help her - start the business.
0:13:08 > 0:13:09- It's worked out for us.
0:13:09 > 0:13:13- This field pays more raising - children than it does rearing sheep!
0:13:14 > 0:13:17- Oh, yes, it does. A lot more.
0:13:17 > 0:13:19- You have to try new things.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23- Yes, with farming as it is, - and the milk price as it is.
0:13:23 > 0:13:29- It's starting to rise right now - but it might start dropping again.
0:13:29 > 0:13:30- We just keep going.
0:13:31 > 0:13:36- How difficult is it for Gwenllian to - develop a business in rural Wales?
0:13:38 > 0:13:41- There are grants - - we received a grant.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44- For us, the grant wasn't - a job creation grant...
0:13:45 > 0:13:47- ..it was - a building redevelopment grant.
0:13:47 > 0:13:49- That was a lot of help for us.
0:13:50 > 0:13:54- It covered one-third of the cost - of renovating the building.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57- In terms of business creation...
0:13:57 > 0:14:01- ..you must do what you enjoy doing.
0:14:01 > 0:14:04- For Gwenllian, it was childcare.
0:14:04 > 0:14:05- You just have to go for it.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09- I've always told my daughters - there's no shame in failing.
0:14:09 > 0:14:11- The only shame is in not trying.
0:14:11 > 0:14:17- The nursery is popular with families - from the locality and beyond.
0:14:17 > 0:14:22- I looked at the location - and decided right away.
0:14:22 > 0:14:26- That fact that it's on farmland...
0:14:26 > 0:14:31- ..it was something - I wanted Mared to experience.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- I had to return to full-time work.
0:14:34 > 0:14:38- I was eager for her to have - experience of being on a farm.
0:14:38 > 0:14:44- The staff were eager for her - to have experiences on the farm.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47- I was happy for her to come here.
0:14:48 > 0:14:53- I didn't think twice - about sending her to this nursery.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56- You're full at the moment. - Are there any plans to expand?
0:14:57 > 0:14:59- Yes, we're full at the moment.
0:15:00 > 0:15:05- Parents are reserving places - for September and next January.
0:15:05 > 0:15:09- There are no immediate plans - to expand the business.
0:15:09 > 0:15:12- We're glad it's successful - and booked up.
0:15:12 > 0:15:15- We know all the children - and their families.
0:15:15 > 0:15:17- That's important to me.
0:15:18 > 0:15:23- I'm worried if we expand, - we might lose that strong bond...
0:15:23 > 0:15:25- ..with the parents.
0:15:26 > 0:15:29- As a young woman, what's been - the biggest challenge for you...
0:15:30 > 0:15:31- ..starting a new business?
0:15:32 > 0:15:36- To be honest, probably - the financial side of the business.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39- I'm very fortunate - to have Mam and Dad.
0:15:39 > 0:15:42- They helped me - establish the business...
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- ..and invested money - to renovate the building.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49- I think we were fortunate - to receive the grant.
0:15:49 > 0:15:54- The grant to help start a business - in a rural area was important to us.
0:15:54 > 0:15:59- Without it, I don't think we could - have started in the first place.
0:15:59 > 0:16:02- It's helped keep me in Llanarthney.
0:16:02 > 0:16:05- I'm glad Mam and Dad - allowed me to do this.
0:16:05 > 0:16:08- I think the children - should have the final word.
0:16:08 > 0:16:11- What do you think of Cwtsh y Clos?
0:16:11 > 0:16:13- Enjoy!
0:16:15 > 0:16:19- Last week, the NFU's annual - conference was held in Birmingham.
0:16:20 > 0:16:21- Here's what happened.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29- Over 1,000 members - visited the two-day conference.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32- It was a chance - to listen to industry leaders.
0:16:33 > 0:16:37- The theme was - Brexit: Ingredients For Success.
0:16:38 > 0:16:41- A strong representation - travelled from Wales.
0:16:45 > 0:16:47- We have many members here today.
0:16:47 > 0:16:51- We have what we call - the next generation group here...
0:16:51 > 0:16:53- ..a group of young farmers.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57- We enjoy showing them - what we do as an union.
0:16:57 > 0:17:02- It's important for us, as Welsh - farmers, to discuss Welsh topics.
0:17:03 > 0:17:04- We're devolved in Cardiff.
0:17:04 > 0:17:09- To be fair, the Assembly Minister, - Lesley Griffiths, was here with us.
0:17:09 > 0:17:14- The three most important people - in government for farmers...
0:17:14 > 0:17:16- ..were also present.
0:17:16 > 0:17:22- Brexit will be a challenge for us, - especially for the market.
0:17:22 > 0:17:26- The market is important for us - in Wales, for red meat especially.
0:17:27 > 0:17:31- We need some guarantees - in terms of where we should invest.
0:17:31 > 0:17:34- We're moving on, - there's no time to hang around.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- A lot of farmers want to invest.
0:17:37 > 0:17:43- It's important to have assurances - to help them decide their future.
0:17:46 > 0:17:50- There were sessions - on every aspect of agriculture.
0:17:50 > 0:17:54- Sian Davies spoke about the future - of the dairy industry.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57- She's the NFU's chief dairy advisor.
0:17:57 > 0:18:00- It's been an interesting year.
0:18:00 > 0:18:04- The last two years have been - challenging for dairy farmers...
0:18:04 > 0:18:06- ..in Wales and England.
0:18:06 > 0:18:09- The milk price - was the major talking point.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12- I asked the audience - if they would be content...
0:18:13 > 0:18:17- ..to accept a contract that would - give a fixed price for a year...
0:18:17 > 0:18:20- ..for a level of milk production - for that year.
0:18:20 > 0:18:24- We debated - what that price should be.
0:18:25 > 0:18:29- I think everyone wants as high - a price as they can possibly get...
0:18:29 > 0:18:33- ..but the industry - is part of a global industry...
0:18:33 > 0:18:36- ..and the price must be competitive.
0:18:36 > 0:18:39- Ultimately, - we need to improve the contract.
0:18:39 > 0:18:45- Farmers must understand what's fair - and not fair about the contract.
0:18:45 > 0:18:49- Today, we launched a new service, - the NFU Contract Checking Service.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- Some milk companies have a good - relationship with their farmers...
0:18:54 > 0:18:57- ..but there are problems - in some areas.
0:18:57 > 0:19:02- We must improve the dairy contract - for everyone.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06- We're calling on the government - to create a level...
0:19:06 > 0:19:09- ..where every farmer - has a fair contract.
0:19:09 > 0:19:12- If you want to improve the contract, - that's fine...
0:19:13 > 0:19:16- ..but there should be no reduction - in that contract.
0:19:16 > 0:19:20- With Brexit negotiations - on everyone's mind...
0:19:20 > 0:19:24- ..George Eustice, the government's - agriculture minister...
0:19:24 > 0:19:28- ..and Lesley Griffiths, the - Assembly's rural affairs minister...
0:19:28 > 0:19:32- ..discussed a future - outside the European Union.
0:19:32 > 0:19:35- We made it clear, as a government...
0:19:36 > 0:19:40- ..that we need free and unfettered - access to the single market.
0:19:40 > 0:19:45- Theresa May has said that the - chances of that are pretty remote.
0:19:45 > 0:19:49- It's of great concern to us. - It's a battle we will keep fighting.
0:19:49 > 0:19:53- It's a massive issue and really - important we have that market.
0:19:53 > 0:19:58- Andrea Leadsom was questioned - about transitional arrangements.
0:19:58 > 0:20:01- She said the deal would be so good - we wouldn't need those.
0:20:01 > 0:20:04- We will need those arrangements.
0:20:04 > 0:20:07- Trade agreements take many years - to put together.
0:20:08 > 0:20:11- It's vital that we protect farming - in that way.
0:20:11 > 0:20:14- Welsh agriculture - is a vital industry.
0:20:14 > 0:20:18- The message I've given - Andrea Leadsom and George Eustice...
0:20:18 > 0:20:22- ..is that we need to support - our agriculture sector.
0:20:22 > 0:20:25- One of the main issues is finance.
0:20:25 > 0:20:29- After 2020, there's a black hole. - We have a guarantee up to 2020.
0:20:29 > 0:20:34- After 2020, we don't know - what that funding will look like.
0:20:34 > 0:20:38- I cannot envisage a time - when agriculture won't need support.
0:20:39 > 0:20:42- It's vital - we get clarity around finance.
0:20:46 > 0:20:51- What did the members think about - the conference and the debates?
0:20:51 > 0:20:57- I think Lesley has concerns about - free entry into the single market.
0:20:57 > 0:21:01- I don't think, in her mind, - we'll have what we want there.
0:21:02 > 0:21:04- George Eustice, on the other hand...
0:21:04 > 0:21:08- ..believes we'll get it - and he's positive...
0:21:08 > 0:21:12- ..that at the end of the 18-month - or two-year period...
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- ..we'll have a good agreement.
0:21:15 > 0:21:16- I can't see that somehow.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21- There are more questions - than answers.
0:21:21 > 0:21:24- To some extent, - that's understandable.
0:21:24 > 0:21:26- For an industry like this...
0:21:26 > 0:21:30- ..which must plan - for the long term...
0:21:31 > 0:21:35- ..and in our sector, where we - lend money to the industry...
0:21:35 > 0:21:39- ..over long periods, - guarantees are very important.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42- We're waiting for more answers.
0:21:42 > 0:21:46- I came with a lot of questions, - I'm going away with a lot more.
0:21:46 > 0:21:48- There are so many unknowns.
0:21:48 > 0:21:52- We've had a few reassurances, - if you can take them at face value.
0:21:53 > 0:21:57- It would appear that our farming - ministers are ready to back us.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02- It is just really about them - starting to work together.
0:22:02 > 0:22:07- I hope they are not going to go into - committee-style decision making.
0:22:07 > 0:22:12- I hope they're going to set out with - an end goal and achieve something.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15- Otherwise, - we're going to be delayed.
0:22:15 > 0:22:20- It was nice to hear Lesley Griffiths - talking openly to everyone.
0:22:20 > 0:22:23- She says we deserve - the same voice as England.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27- Welsh farming - should be acknowledged...
0:22:27 > 0:22:31- ..not just the red tractor, - but the Welsh dragon brand too.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35- She said she wanted to see the money - going directly to Wales.
0:22:35 > 0:22:37- One thing that did disappoint me...
0:22:38 > 0:22:42- ..about the debate between George - Eustice and Lesley Griffiths...
0:22:42 > 0:22:47- ..I was adamant that I - didn't want to see agriculture...
0:22:47 > 0:22:49- ..used as a bargaining tool.
0:22:49 > 0:22:51- It wouldn't be fair.
0:22:52 > 0:22:56- I didn't hear enough of a guarantee - that it wouldn't happen.
0:22:56 > 0:22:57- We need that.
0:23:02 > 0:23:04- That's all for this week.
0:23:04 > 0:23:06- Thanks for joining us.
0:23:06 > 0:23:09- I'll see you again next week. - Goodbye.
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