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0:00:00 > 0:00:02- Welcome to Ninian Park...
0:00:02 > 0:00:06- ..the starting point of one - of the most intriguing stories...
0:00:06 > 0:00:08- ..in the history of Welsh sport.
0:00:08 > 0:00:13- I'm taking you back to Wales's - World Cup campaign in 1958.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16- I'm also going to meet this man.
0:00:19 > 0:00:21- Pele.
0:00:24 > 0:00:27- I'm happy for the opportunity - to embrace...
0:00:27 > 0:00:29- ..my sporting friends in Wales...
0:00:30 > 0:00:32- ..across Europe - and around the world.
0:00:32 > 0:00:35- And to talk a little about my life.
0:00:44 > 0:00:49- Wales's campaign to reach the World - Cup Finals for the first time...
0:00:49 > 0:00:54- ..began on 1st May, 1957, - at Ninian Park.
0:00:54 > 0:00:57- They played a strong - Czechoslovakian team.
0:00:58 > 0:00:59- Wales won 1-0.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02- From there, we hit the road.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05- We lost 2-1 to East Germany...
0:01:05 > 0:01:08- ..and 2-0 in Czechoslovakia.
0:01:08 > 0:01:12- We ended our campaign - with a 4-1 drubbing of East Germany.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14- We started well and ended well.
0:01:14 > 0:01:17- Somewhere in the middle, - we lost the plot.
0:01:18 > 0:01:21- We were second in the group - with four points.
0:01:21 > 0:01:25- Our World Cup dream was over - for four more years.
0:01:27 > 0:01:32- But then... trouble in - the Middle East. Nothing new there.
0:01:32 > 0:01:34- Israel upset a few people...
0:01:35 > 0:01:38- ..and no-one wanted to play them - in the qualifiers.
0:01:38 > 0:01:42- FIFA couldn't allow Israel to enter - the World Cup without playing.
0:01:42 > 0:01:48- FIFA's wise decision was to put the - names of the runners-up in a hat.
0:01:48 > 0:01:52- The team picked from the hat - would play Israel, home and away...
0:01:52 > 0:01:55- ..for the right to play - in the World Cup.
0:01:55 > 0:01:58- Here's your choice. - Guess who came out of the hat!
0:01:59 > 0:02:00- Yeah!
0:02:05 > 0:02:09- The first leg was played at - the Ramat Gan Stadium in Tel Aviv.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12- Wales dominated from the kick-off...
0:02:13 > 0:02:16- ..and went ahead - through an Ivor Allchurch goal.
0:02:16 > 0:02:20- Captain Dave Bowen sealed - the victory with a 20-yard strike.
0:02:20 > 0:02:25- With a 2-0 victory, Bowen and his - team inched closer to the World Cup.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33- Brazil has already secured a place - in the World Cup finals...
0:02:33 > 0:02:36- ..after beating Peru over two legs.
0:02:36 > 0:02:41- After losing in the final in 1950 - and the quarter-finals in 1954...
0:02:41 > 0:02:45- ..they hoped the sound of the samba - would sway their way in Sweden.
0:02:46 > 0:02:50- Wales had high hopes - of joining Brazil in Sweden...
0:02:50 > 0:02:53- ..when they played the second leg - against Israel.
0:02:53 > 0:02:57- The dream moved ever closer - when Ivor Allchurch put them ahead.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00- Soon after, Wales went 2-0 up.
0:03:00 > 0:03:05- Medwin crossed for Cliff Jones - to fire the ball past Hodorov.
0:03:05 > 0:03:08- 2-0 on the night, 4-0 on aggregate.
0:03:08 > 0:03:12- Wales were on their way - to the World Cup...
0:03:12 > 0:03:15- ..as representatives of Asia/Africa!
0:03:15 > 0:03:17- You couldn't make it up.
0:03:18 > 0:03:21- Wales's success was a feather - in Jimmy Murphy's cap.
0:03:22 > 0:03:27- He'd been appointed as Wales's first - full-time manager a year earlier.
0:03:27 > 0:03:31- Jimmy Murphy left Cardiff - on February 6th a happy man.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34- He travelled north - and returned to his main job...
0:03:34 > 0:03:39- ..at Old Trafford, as Manchester - United's assistant manager.
0:03:39 > 0:03:43- When he reached the stadium, - he received dreadful news.
0:03:45 > 0:03:50- The aeroplane carrying Manchester - United's squad - the Busby Babes...
0:03:51 > 0:03:55- ..had crashed in Munich - as it returned from Yugoslavia.
0:03:55 > 0:03:59- Twenty-three died, - including eight of the players.
0:03:59 > 0:04:04- Duncan Edwards, one of their star - players, was amongst the dead.
0:04:05 > 0:04:09- Had Murphy not been on duty - with Wales...
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- ..he would have flown - with the squad that day.
0:04:12 > 0:04:16- His seat was taken by Bert Whalley, - one of the coaches...
0:04:16 > 0:04:18- ..who sat next to Sir Matt Busby.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20- Whalley died in the crash.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27- Murphy was an impresario - and a staunch nationalist.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31- What he did with United and Wales...
0:04:31 > 0:04:35- ..was swear at the players...
0:04:35 > 0:04:37- ..and inspire them.
0:04:37 > 0:04:39- He was a fiery character.
0:04:40 > 0:04:41- He was a remarkable manager...
0:04:42 > 0:04:45- ..not the most tactical, - but still a great manager.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48- He was the epitome of a manager.
0:04:48 > 0:04:52- You could go so far but no further. - That's how it should be now.
0:04:53 > 0:04:54- He was very generous.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58- He'd give you a puff - on his cigarette at half-time...
0:04:58 > 0:05:00- ..and a little drop of brandy.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04- Yeah, nice bloke, nice bloke.
0:05:04 > 0:05:08- I remember playing - against England in 1957.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10- Jim had given his team talk...
0:05:10 > 0:05:13- ..and he said, "Would anybody - like to ask anything?"
0:05:14 > 0:05:15- Reg Davies said to Murphy...
0:05:16 > 0:05:21- .."What if Duncan Edwards picks the - ball up and comes through with it?
0:05:21 > 0:05:24- "Shall I close him down - or back off?" he said.
0:05:24 > 0:05:28- "Reg," he said, "Get out - of the bloody way - he'll kill you."
0:05:28 > 0:05:30- That sums Jim up.
0:05:30 > 0:05:32- That's how he approached it.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35- He was a no-nonsense character.
0:05:35 > 0:05:38- We all loved him and respected him.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40- A good footballing man.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46- In the meantime, down in Brazil, - a new star was emerging.
0:05:47 > 0:05:51- At 17 years of age, he had been - chosen for the World Cup squad.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54- His name - - Edson Arantes do Nascimento...
0:05:54 > 0:05:58- ..although everyone in Brazil - knew him as Pele.
0:06:00 > 0:06:03- Who were the stars - in the Welsh squad?
0:06:10 > 0:06:14- In 1958, he was seen as one of - the top three goalies in the world.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17- Harry Gregg, Lev Yashin - and Jack Kelsey.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19- For many, he was the best.
0:06:19 > 0:06:23- I once asked him, - "Jack, when you catch the ball...
0:06:23 > 0:06:26- .."why does it never leave - your hands?"
0:06:26 > 0:06:28- "I chew gum before the game.
0:06:28 > 0:06:31- "Before kick-off, - I rub the gum over my gloves."
0:06:32 > 0:06:34- "Yeah, yeah, I believe that!"
0:06:34 > 0:06:39- When he died in 1992, that story - was in the newspapers. It was true.
0:06:42 > 0:06:44- Ivor had everything.
0:06:44 > 0:06:47- He could dribble the ball, - he could pass...
0:06:47 > 0:06:50- ..and he could strike the ball - like a bullet.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54- Ivor would never score - inside the penalty box.
0:06:55 > 0:06:59- All his goals were scored - outside the box.
0:07:03 > 0:07:05- Cliff Jones - Spurs' winger.
0:07:05 > 0:07:08- They called him "the Flying Winger".
0:07:09 > 0:07:10- He was fast.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13- He could cross the ball - with both feet.
0:07:13 > 0:07:16- His ability and perseverance - were responsible...
0:07:16 > 0:07:19- ..for a large number - of Spurs' goals.
0:07:21 > 0:07:25- He never walked to you and told you - that you were in the team.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29- The only time you ever found out - was listening to the News.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32- He'd put it on the wireless - and that was it.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35- He was going through - and going through...
0:07:35 > 0:07:40- ..and when it came to No.4 or No.5, - my name and I was chuffed then.
0:07:40 > 0:07:43- That's the only way we knew - we would play for Wales.
0:07:45 > 0:07:49- Mel's brother, John, - was the brightest star of all.
0:07:49 > 0:07:54- The Gentle Giant as he was known - since moving to Juventus in 1957.
0:07:54 > 0:07:56- John was the god.
0:07:56 > 0:08:02- Imposing, talented, - graceful and influential.
0:08:03 > 0:08:08- If John was in your team, - you thought you could beat everyone.
0:08:08 > 0:08:11- One thing will stay with me forever.
0:08:11 > 0:08:13- It was in 1958.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16- I'd gone to Llanfairfechan - on my bike.
0:08:16 > 0:08:20- Deiniol, my friend, and I - were looking out to sea.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- We could see a man - playing football with his son.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26- Both of us stared in disbelief - - John Charles.
0:08:26 > 0:08:30- We went over to him and asked him - for his autograph. He was wonderful.
0:08:31 > 0:08:36- I can say I've played football - with John Charles in Llanfairfechan.
0:08:36 > 0:08:40- Years later, he was a guest - of honour at a dinner.
0:08:40 > 0:08:44- Mrs Charles came to the bar - to order an orange juice.
0:08:44 > 0:08:48- I told her how wonderful he'd been - to us when we were young boys.
0:08:48 > 0:08:50- She asked me to tell him that...
0:08:50 > 0:08:53- ..because his memory - was starting to fail.
0:08:53 > 0:08:57- I had a 15-minute conversation - with him about the holiday...
0:08:57 > 0:08:59- ..and he remembered it vividly.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05- The Welsh players - came up to London...
0:09:05 > 0:09:09- ..for a five-day training camp - before leaving for Sweden...
0:09:09 > 0:09:12- ..and stayed - at the Lancaster Court Hotel.
0:09:13 > 0:09:18- The FAW failed to organize - suitable training facilities.
0:09:18 > 0:09:21- Luckily, Hyde Park was nearby.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25- They had wardens on horses - going from A to B...
0:09:25 > 0:09:28- ..looking that everything was OK.
0:09:29 > 0:09:31- This was a squad of 20 players.
0:09:31 > 0:09:35- Spud went over, Jim Murphy, - great character.
0:09:36 > 0:09:40- "We're off to Sweden - to play for Wales in the World Cup."
0:09:40 > 0:09:44- The fella got on his horse - and we trained there for five days.
0:09:44 > 0:09:50- It was like Sunday morning football - training for the World Cup.
0:09:50 > 0:09:55- That's how it was. We were playing - as if we were playing as kids.
0:09:56 > 0:10:00- This is where the Welsh squad - were put through their paces.
0:10:00 > 0:10:04- "Jumpers for goalposts" would have - been a very suitable description.
0:10:05 > 0:10:07- With the London fiasco - out of the way...
0:10:08 > 0:10:10- ..the rest of the trip - would be a walk in the park.
0:10:11 > 0:10:13- Yeah, d'you think so?
0:10:15 > 0:10:20- BROMMA AIRPORT - STOCKHOLM
0:10:24 > 0:10:29- The Welsh squad arrived - at Bromma Airport without a hitch...
0:10:29 > 0:10:32- ..apart from Ken Jones - who'd caught a plane to Tel Aviv.
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- As some of the players told him, - "No, we've already played Israel!"
0:10:38 > 0:10:42- John Charles was absent when - the plane touched down in Bromma.
0:10:42 > 0:10:45- Italy had failed - to reach the World Cup...
0:10:45 > 0:10:50- ..so they decided to organize - a cup tournament between the clubs.
0:10:50 > 0:10:55- In his first year, Charles had - inspired Juventus to the title.
0:10:56 > 0:11:00- They fought - to keep hold of the giant Welshman.
0:11:02 > 0:11:05- An official welcoming party - awaited the team.
0:11:05 > 0:11:09- One of the selection team - received a bunch of flowers...
0:11:09 > 0:11:12- ..red, white and blue, - to represent the Union Jack.
0:11:12 > 0:11:16- The Swedish organizers didn't know - that we had our own flag.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19- They didn't even know - that we had our own anthem.
0:11:19 > 0:11:23- God Save The Queen was played before - every Welsh match. The shame of it!
0:11:31 > 0:11:36- The Grand Hotel, in Saltsjobaden, - was 20 minutes from Stockholm.
0:11:36 > 0:11:40- This is where the Welsh squad - spent most of their time in Sweden.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54- With the Baltic Sea - within yards of the front door...
0:11:54 > 0:11:58- ..grand boats and luxurious - holiday homes, it was paradise.
0:12:04 > 0:12:08- A few of the more mischievous - players liked a pint or two.
0:12:08 > 0:12:12- They went to find an off-licence, - bought some beer...
0:12:12 > 0:12:16- ..and hid in the woods - in case Jimmy Murphy caught them.
0:12:16 > 0:12:20- We'd be by the pool - doing something or other.
0:12:20 > 0:12:24- All of a sudden, there's about five - of them walking past the pool...
0:12:25 > 0:12:28- ..down the field, into the woods.
0:12:28 > 0:12:32- They were like the Seven Dwarves - - there was only five of them.
0:12:32 > 0:12:35- Where were they going?
0:12:35 > 0:12:40- They'd had a few beers and taken - them down there to have a picnic.
0:12:40 > 0:12:42- They were harmless enough.
0:12:43 > 0:12:48- One of the so-called Big Five - was Colin Baker from Cardiff City.
0:12:49 > 0:12:52- It was too dear to drink - in the hotel.
0:12:54 > 0:12:57- We'd bought some bottles of beer...
0:12:57 > 0:12:59- ..in a little shop in Saltsjobaden.
0:13:00 > 0:13:02- That's how we entertained ourselves.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08- After long discussions, Juventus - agreed to release John Charles...
0:13:08 > 0:13:13- ..but the Italian FA - were still to ratify the decision.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17- With only three days to go - until the first game...
0:13:18 > 0:13:20- ..John Charles was released to play.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23- He arrived at Bromma Airport - at 3.00am.
0:13:24 > 0:13:27- There was no-one from the FAW - to pick him up.
0:13:27 > 0:13:30- A Western Mail reporter - gave him a lift to the hotel.
0:13:31 > 0:13:35- We didn't know whether my brother - would play. He was in Juventus.
0:13:37 > 0:13:40- It was up to the last stage - he came over.
0:13:41 > 0:13:45- All the directors - and all the wives were singing...
0:13:45 > 0:13:47- .."For He's a Jolly Good Fellow."
0:13:48 > 0:13:53- He came and it was great - for him to come anyhow.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56- It was amazing when he did come. - We were all training.
0:13:57 > 0:14:01- Jimmy Murphy says, - "John's arrived,"...
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- ..as if God had just appeared.
0:14:03 > 0:14:05- Then off he goes to get John.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08- He brought John back.
0:14:08 > 0:14:10- The giant had reached Sweden.
0:14:10 > 0:14:12- Wales were ready for battle.
0:14:13 > 0:14:13- .
0:14:16 > 0:14:16- 888
0:14:16 > 0:14:18- 888- - 888
0:14:25 > 0:14:28- Wales's campaign started - against Hungary...
0:14:28 > 0:14:32- ..here at the Jernvallen Stadium - near Sandviken.
0:14:33 > 0:14:35- Hungary was one - of my favourite teams.
0:14:35 > 0:14:39- They had Puskas, Sipos, Kocsis - and Hidegkuti in their ranks.
0:14:39 > 0:14:43- I remember all their names - and knew a lot about them.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46- They'd beaten England 7-1 too!
0:14:46 > 0:14:50- This is the northern most - stadium to host a World Cup match.
0:14:51 > 0:14:55- Today, they play a game - called bandy here...
0:14:55 > 0:14:58- ..which is hockey on ice - - but it's not ice hockey.
0:14:59 > 0:15:01- I don't make up the rules!
0:15:03 > 0:15:07- Hungary were expected to beat Wales - but they had a weakened side.
0:15:07 > 0:15:12- Many players had fled the country - after a political revolution.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16- On the eve of the game, - there was a fierce argument...
0:15:16 > 0:15:19- ..between the manager - and one of his players.
0:15:19 > 0:15:24- Despite the general consensus, - a few were hopeful of a shock.
0:15:30 > 0:15:33- Welcome to the Jernvallen Stadium - in Sandviken...
0:15:33 > 0:15:37- ..for this exciting contest - between Hungary and Wales.
0:15:39 > 0:15:44- Wales's World Cup campaign had - started in the worst possible way.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46- Hidegkuti. Out to Bozsik.
0:15:47 > 0:15:48- Goal. Hungary lead 1-0.
0:15:48 > 0:15:52- According to Kelsey, - with the sun in his eyes...
0:15:52 > 0:15:54- ..he had no chance - of saving the shot.
0:15:55 > 0:15:58- For the next 20 minutes, - Wales were under the cosh.
0:15:58 > 0:16:02- John Charles was singled out - for some heavy tackling.
0:16:02 > 0:16:06- Charles in possession. - Matrai fouls him again.
0:16:08 > 0:16:10- 25 minutes into the game...
0:16:11 > 0:16:13- Cliff Jones with the cross.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- Charles rises. John Charles. - Grosics has no chance.
0:16:18 > 0:16:22- 1-1 and Wales deserved - to be on equal terms.
0:16:22 > 0:16:26- 1-1 was the final score, - which was cause for celebration.
0:16:26 > 0:16:31- Jimmy Murphy was jumping around - the changing rooms shouting...
0:16:31 > 0:16:33- .."We'll do it. We can go further."
0:16:33 > 0:16:38- After seeing Hungary play over here, - with Puskas and all those...
0:16:38 > 0:16:42- ..we expected Hungary to have a - similar side, real good footballers.
0:16:42 > 0:16:44- Completely different.
0:16:44 > 0:16:48- They were just animals in a way, - really.
0:16:48 > 0:16:50- They kicked John off the park.
0:16:51 > 0:16:54- To get a 1-1 draw against them - was excellent.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57- We thought that would possibly be - our hardest game.
0:16:58 > 0:17:02- It turned out to be a hard game - but it was physically hard.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04- There wasn't any football-wise.
0:17:04 > 0:17:08- They scored first as well - so we had to fight back and we did.
0:17:09 > 0:17:11- It was a good draw - and a good performance...
0:17:12 > 0:17:15- ..against a side who were - really very physical at that time.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18- I remember John Charles - being a very special player...
0:17:19 > 0:17:21- ..and he scored against me.
0:17:29 > 0:17:34- The English were more physical but - the Welsh were technically better.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- It was a good start for Wales...
0:17:37 > 0:17:40- ..but things were about to take - a turn for the worse.
0:17:47 > 0:17:49- The boys returned to Saltsjobaden.
0:17:49 > 0:17:53- On the 10th of June, they faced - Mexico at the Rasunda Stadion...
0:17:54 > 0:17:56- ..in the middle of Stockholm.
0:17:56 > 0:17:59- Wales was expected to win - at a canter.
0:17:59 > 0:18:03- All they thought they had to do - was turn up and the win was theirs.
0:18:04 > 0:18:05- Oh, no!
0:18:09 > 0:18:14- 15,000 supporters turned up, - including hundreds of Mexicans.
0:18:15 > 0:18:18- The South American team - weren't fancied...
0:18:18 > 0:18:21- ..but they had - enthusiastic supporters.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32- Ten minutes into the game, it was - evident that Wales weren't on form.
0:18:32 > 0:18:36- They looked tired and out of sorts. - Then, a stroke of luck.
0:18:37 > 0:18:39- Webster takes the corner kick.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41- Allchurch waits.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45- He shoots and scores - against the run of play.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48- Wales were in the lead, 1-0.
0:18:49 > 0:18:53- The game continued - but Wales continued to disappoint.
0:18:53 > 0:18:57- Colin Webster's ferocious tackling - incensed some of the crowd.
0:18:57 > 0:19:01- The Mexicans came down from - the stand to have a word with him.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06- All the Mexicans were sitting - on the side where Colin Webster was.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09- He's turned around - and done something.
0:19:10 > 0:19:14- Everything was quiet and tight - and then there was an uproar.
0:19:14 > 0:19:18- The Mexicans were waving - their scarves and their hats...
0:19:18 > 0:19:21- ..and having a go at Webster.
0:19:21 > 0:19:25- We stuck him inside - until half-time...
0:19:25 > 0:19:29- ..and I went outside-right - which was no problems.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31- By the time we got in - at half-time...
0:19:31 > 0:19:34- ..he was playing the other way.
0:19:34 > 0:19:38- If they'd have got hold of him, you - don't know what would've happened.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- Colin was a character.
0:19:40 > 0:19:42- Wales were ahead at half-time.
0:19:42 > 0:19:47- When they returned to the field, - they were still playing poorly.
0:19:47 > 0:19:50- Somehow, they managed - to keep the Mexicans at bay.
0:19:50 > 0:19:52- Then, two minutes before the end...
0:19:54 > 0:19:56- Sesma crosses. Belmonte waits.
0:19:57 > 0:20:00- It's in. Belmonte's scored.
0:20:00 > 0:20:04- The man from Belmonte - - he say goal!
0:20:05 > 0:20:09- 1-1 was the final score. - Jimmy Murphy was furious.
0:20:09 > 0:20:12- He vented his anger - on all his players...
0:20:12 > 0:20:15- ..including John Charles - who'd had a poor game.
0:20:15 > 0:20:20- To be honest, this was Wales's worst - performance since World War II.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24- We were expected to win that game.
0:20:24 > 0:20:29- But... I think a draw - was a fair result.
0:20:31 > 0:20:36- But they gave us a fright, - they did - Mexico.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40- Brazil were lighting up - the World Cup in Sweden.
0:20:41 > 0:20:43- They'd started the competition - on fire.
0:20:43 > 0:20:48- Austria were cast aside 3-0, thanks - to goals from Santos and Mazola.
0:20:48 > 0:20:52- They were also making their mark - off the field.
0:20:52 > 0:20:56- They had a personal chef, - a psychologist and even a dentist.
0:20:57 > 0:20:58- These boys were serious.
0:20:58 > 0:21:02- The hosts, Sweden, - were Wales's next opponents.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06- Jimmy Murphy decided to play - for a draw against a team...
0:21:06 > 0:21:10- ..which had already secured - its place in the quarter-final.
0:21:10 > 0:21:14- Wales returned to - the Rasunda Stadion on June 15th...
0:21:14 > 0:21:16- ..for Sweden versus Wales.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21- On the one side, you had - Jimmy Murphy's defensive tactics...
0:21:21 > 0:21:24- ..and on the other hand, - you had the tactics...
0:21:24 > 0:21:26- ..of Swedish manager - George Raynor...
0:21:26 > 0:21:29- ..who cared little - whether his team won or not.
0:21:29 > 0:21:33- Somewhere in between, 30,000 - supporters present that night...
0:21:33 > 0:21:37- ..saw one of the most boring matches - in the competition's history.
0:21:46 > 0:21:48- Sorry, I was watching grass grow.
0:21:48 > 0:21:53- That was far more interesting - than watching Sweden play Wales.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56- Jimmy Murphy's wish was granted - - a goalless draw.
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- They did miss some fair few chances.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- We were really thankful - to get a draw against them.
0:22:04 > 0:22:09- They were one of the favourites - since it was in Sweden, I suppose.
0:22:09 > 0:22:11- The match against Wales - wasn't a memorable one.
0:22:12 > 0:22:16- We were through to the last eight - so it didn't matter to us.
0:22:20 > 0:22:25- One thing that stays with me - is how good John Charles was.
0:22:26 > 0:22:28- After the goalless draw...
0:22:28 > 0:22:33- ..the news filtered through that - Hungary had thrashed Mexico 4-0.
0:22:33 > 0:22:37- This meant that Wales were joint - second in the group with Hungary.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40- There was no such thing - as goal difference in 1958.
0:22:40 > 0:22:44- There would have to be a play-off - to decide which one went through.
0:22:45 > 0:22:49- If the first game was dirty, - the next one was filthy.
0:22:50 > 0:22:55- The FAW didn't expect Wales - to qualify from the group...
0:22:55 > 0:22:59- ..so they returned to London - before flying back the next day...
0:23:00 > 0:23:02- ..for the play-off with Hungary.
0:23:02 > 0:23:04- Well done, lads!
0:23:05 > 0:23:07- According to Jimmy Murphy...
0:23:07 > 0:23:12- ..Wales would be hampered by the - Russian referee chosen for the game.
0:23:12 > 0:23:15- With such a close bond between - the Soviet Union and Hungary...
0:23:16 > 0:23:20- ..he was worried that Hungary would - receive preferential treatment.
0:23:20 > 0:23:21- He was right too.
0:23:22 > 0:23:24- The Rasunda Stadion - had a capacity of 54,000.
0:23:25 > 0:23:29- Unfortunately, only 3,000 turned up - to watch the game that night...
0:23:29 > 0:23:34- ..possibly because the game - against Sweden had been so boring.
0:23:34 > 0:23:39- Wales started well, - taking the game to the opposition.
0:23:39 > 0:23:43- John Charles was fouled twice - in the penalty box.
0:23:44 > 0:23:47- The one-eyed Russian ref - turned a blind eye!
0:23:47 > 0:23:49- After half an hour...
0:23:50 > 0:23:53- Budai crosses. It eludes Williams.
0:23:53 > 0:23:57- Tichy. Goal. Hungary lead 1-0.
0:24:00 > 0:24:04- Soon after the interval, John - Charles was fouled in the box again.
0:24:04 > 0:24:08- To be honest, he was fouled - in the box for the whole game...
0:24:09 > 0:24:12- ..but he always stood up, - smiled and continued the game.
0:24:12 > 0:24:17- The referee gave Wales nothing but - ten minutes into the second half...
0:24:17 > 0:24:19- Allchurch shoots.
0:24:20 > 0:24:24- What a goal. A great goal by Ivor - Allchurch. Wales have equalized.
0:24:27 > 0:24:31- According to some, it was - the best goal of the tournament.
0:24:31 > 0:24:36- Wales were back in the game and - Hungary were losing their heads.
0:24:37 > 0:24:40- Cliff Jones missed - a golden opportunity to score...
0:24:41 > 0:24:44- ..but everyone felt - that the second goal had to come.
0:24:45 > 0:24:48- Wales in possession. - Grosics rushes out.
0:24:49 > 0:24:50- Medwin. Goal.
0:24:51 > 0:24:52- Wales lead.
0:24:53 > 0:24:55- The goal was my fault.
0:24:55 > 0:24:59- I was trying to find Sarosi - but he'd turned his back on me.
0:25:00 > 0:25:02- He wasn't expecting the ball.
0:25:02 > 0:25:05- I shouted at him - but it was too late.
0:25:05 > 0:25:08- Wales's right wing - had stolen the ball.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11- It was one against one - and he scored.
0:25:12 > 0:25:16- There's always things in football - that will never go out of your mind.
0:25:16 > 0:25:21- Being in the World Cup and scoring - that goal, it's something special.
0:25:21 > 0:25:25- That's it - Wales are victorious - by two goals to one.
0:25:25 > 0:25:28- Wales are through - to the quarter-finals.
0:25:29 > 0:25:33- We won. It's the only game Wales - have ever won in the World Cup.
0:25:33 > 0:25:39- Terry Medwin had taken us through to - the quarter-finals to face Brazil.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41- Come on, lads.
0:25:42 > 0:25:42- .
0:25:46 > 0:25:46- 888
0:25:46 > 0:25:48- 888- - 888
0:25:53 > 0:25:57- Against all expectations, Wales - were through to the quarter-finals.
0:25:58 > 0:26:02- No wonder the team were over the - moon as they returned to the hotel.
0:26:04 > 0:26:06- The night Wales won...
0:26:07 > 0:26:11- ..a party was organized in the - Copacabana Club in the Grand Hotel.
0:26:12 > 0:26:15- We'd had one or two, kind of thing.
0:26:16 > 0:26:19- I think it was Kenny Leek...
0:26:19 > 0:26:21- ..who wanted to sing...
0:26:25 > 0:26:27- ..when the singer was on stage.
0:26:27 > 0:26:29- He went up...
0:26:29 > 0:26:34- ..and took the mike out of his hand - and wanted to sing Welsh songs.
0:26:34 > 0:26:38- The bouncers or the heavies, - they came on.
0:26:39 > 0:26:41- They tried to get him off the stage.
0:26:41 > 0:26:44- We got a little bit involved - in this.
0:26:44 > 0:26:48- At the end of the day, we were - big boys then, kind of thing.
0:26:48 > 0:26:50- We could look after ourselves.
0:26:50 > 0:26:53- Unfortunately, once again...
0:26:53 > 0:26:56- ..things fell apart - in the Copacabana...
0:26:56 > 0:27:01- ..when Colin Webster decided - to headbutt one of the barmen.
0:27:01 > 0:27:03- Webster was the Craig Bellamy - of the 1950s.
0:27:04 > 0:27:05- Enough said!
0:27:07 > 0:27:10- While the celebrations - got out of hand in Sweden...
0:27:11 > 0:27:14- ..and news of their success - reached home...
0:27:16 > 0:27:19- It created a lot of interest - at the time...
0:27:19 > 0:27:22- ..when Wales reached - the quarter-finals.
0:27:22 > 0:27:26- Even children started - playing football on the yard.
0:27:26 > 0:27:31- They adopted the names of - Kelsey, Bowen, Charles and Medwin.
0:27:31 > 0:27:33- Everyone discussed football.
0:27:34 > 0:27:39- I was so enthusiastic - throughout the World Cup.
0:27:39 > 0:27:41- As we progressed...
0:27:41 > 0:27:47- ..I thought we could go on - to win the World Cup.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51- We had such great players - at the time.
0:27:51 > 0:27:54- We'll never have a side - like that again.
0:28:07 > 0:28:09- Wales left the Grand Hotel...
0:28:09 > 0:28:13- ..and decamped to the Fars Hatt - Hotel, just outside Gothenburg.
0:28:14 > 0:28:16- With less than 24 hours to go...
0:28:16 > 0:28:20- ..before the most important game of - their lives, Murphy had a problem.
0:28:21 > 0:28:22- He'd never seen Brazil play.
0:28:23 > 0:28:26- He had no idea what their skills - and tactics would be like.
0:28:28 > 0:28:31- We didn't know anything - about Brazilian football.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33- I'd studied for my 'O' Levels...
0:28:34 > 0:28:38- ..so I knew a country called Brazil - existed in South America.
0:28:38 > 0:28:43- We knew nothing about the Brazilian - football team before 1958.
0:28:44 > 0:28:48- You wouldn't have seen a side - like Brazil before then...
0:28:48 > 0:28:51- ..and you would have read - very little about them.
0:28:52 > 0:28:58- That added to the pleasure - of watching them play football.
0:28:58 > 0:29:02- Brazil had reached - the quarter-finals easily.
0:29:02 > 0:29:06- They ended the group stages with - a 2-0 win over the Soviet Union.
0:29:06 > 0:29:10- Playing in his first World Cup, - one young lad was making his mark...
0:29:11 > 0:29:12- ..and set up a goal for Vava.
0:29:13 > 0:29:15- He's the No.10 - - yes, that's it, Pele.
0:29:18 > 0:29:22- D'you know what? Jimmy Murphy - had an even greater problem.
0:29:22 > 0:29:26- After the cuts and bruises - he'd received against Hungary...
0:29:26 > 0:29:30- ..it looked likely that John Charles - would be unavailable for the game.
0:29:30 > 0:29:32- Why John, of everyone?
0:29:33 > 0:29:34- Once we'd lost him...
0:29:35 > 0:29:39- ..which side in the world, - even Brazil...
0:29:39 > 0:29:44- ..wouldn't miss a player - of his stature?
0:29:44 > 0:29:48- John Charles wasn't called - King John for nothing.
0:29:48 > 0:29:51- He was a remarkable player.
0:29:51 > 0:29:56- I know I had a few kicks - but that was the game then.
0:29:56 > 0:30:00- I didn't retaliate. - I couldn't catch anybody.
0:30:00 > 0:30:02- My leg was bloody hurting me.
0:30:04 > 0:30:06- They kicked John...
0:30:07 > 0:30:11- ..they kicked him ridiculously - but no-one got sent off.
0:30:11 > 0:30:14- When he sat down - when we played Brazil...
0:30:14 > 0:30:16- ..there were tears in his eyes.
0:30:17 > 0:30:20- Wales were about to face - the World Cup favourites.
0:30:21 > 0:30:25- John Charles was injured and Colin - 'Headbutt' Webster replaced him...
0:30:25 > 0:30:29- ..mainly because the FAW - had flown over their wives...
0:30:29 > 0:30:31- ..rather than reinforcements.
0:30:31 > 0:30:35- The FAW had taken 18 players - to Sweden...
0:30:35 > 0:30:38- ..rather than the permitted 22.
0:30:38 > 0:30:43- PSV Eindhoven striker Trevor Ford - was left at home...
0:30:43 > 0:30:46- ..along with Arsenal's - Derek Tapscott.
0:30:46 > 0:30:50- Both would have given - Jimmy Murphy extra options.
0:30:51 > 0:30:53- This was Wales's third game - in five days.
0:30:54 > 0:30:58- 25,000 supporters crammed - into the Nya Ullevi Stadion.
0:31:02 > 0:31:05- After one of Jimmy Murphy's - legendary team talks...
0:31:06 > 0:31:09- ..Dave Bowen led his players - on to the pitch.
0:31:09 > 0:31:11- They all felt like giants.
0:31:11 > 0:31:14- Unfortunately, - the biggest giant of all...
0:31:15 > 0:31:18- ..was sitting next to Murphy - on the bench.
0:31:19 > 0:31:21- Wales started well.
0:31:21 > 0:31:25- Wingers Jones and Medwin caused - problems in the Brazilian defence.
0:31:26 > 0:31:28- Colin Webster had come in - at centre forward.
0:31:29 > 0:31:32- Colin was a good player - but he was no John Charles.
0:31:32 > 0:31:34- John was centre forward - in the World Cup.
0:31:35 > 0:31:38- From my point of view, - it was possibly my best game.
0:31:39 > 0:31:44- Santos, the fullback, he was a bit - slow on the turn. I exposed that.
0:31:44 > 0:31:49- I got some crosses in and likewise - Terry Medwin on the other side.
0:31:49 > 0:31:51- I know that, sort of...
0:31:51 > 0:31:56- If John had been in the centre, - he would have picked up something.
0:31:56 > 0:31:59- After 20 minutes, - Brazil got into their stride.
0:31:59 > 0:32:02- More importantly, - they had some possession.
0:32:02 > 0:32:05- They bombarded Jack Kelsey's goal - with ferocious shots.
0:32:06 > 0:32:09- Luckily, Arsenal's goalie - was more than up to the task.
0:32:13 > 0:32:15- Garrincha.
0:32:17 > 0:32:21- He steps around the Welsh defence. - He shoots. Kelsey saves.
0:32:21 > 0:32:24- They had the tops. - They had Garrincha and Didi.
0:32:25 > 0:32:28- They were spinning and twisting - the ball around.
0:32:28 > 0:32:33- They took a free kick against us - and we were all standing in a line.
0:32:33 > 0:32:36- It went around us - and hit the crossbar.
0:32:36 > 0:32:38- Never seen anything like it.
0:32:39 > 0:32:41- I can still see Garrincha now.
0:32:41 > 0:32:47- Zagallo played in a position - we'd now call the left wing.
0:32:48 > 0:32:50- Dear me!
0:32:50 > 0:32:54- Didi and Vava - - aren't they lovely names?
0:32:55 > 0:32:58- Imagine having a centre half - called Bellini.
0:32:58 > 0:33:01- They were bound to win. - They couldn't lose.
0:33:02 > 0:33:06- It's 0-0 at half-time - at the Nya Ullevi Stadion.
0:33:06 > 0:33:10- Wales will be happy - with their first-half performance.
0:33:10 > 0:33:14- It was a lovely summer's night - in June.
0:33:14 > 0:33:18- I was listening to the game - between Wales and Brazil...
0:33:18 > 0:33:20- ..on a transistor radio.
0:33:20 > 0:33:26- That was something very new at the - time - for us in Llangaffo, anyway.
0:33:26 > 0:33:28- Alun Williams was the commentator.
0:33:29 > 0:33:34- Alun Williams was one of the best - football commentators that ever was.
0:33:34 > 0:33:39- He would bring the atmosphere of - the game in Sweden into your homes.
0:33:39 > 0:33:41- I had a radio.
0:33:41 > 0:33:46- When a match was played, Dad and I - were always together in the kitchen.
0:33:47 > 0:33:49- No-one else was allowed near us.
0:33:49 > 0:33:51- If he couldn't hear...
0:33:51 > 0:33:55- ..I would shout to him - if there was a chance of us scoring.
0:33:55 > 0:34:00- I would have to give him - a running commentary of the game.
0:34:01 > 0:34:04- The second half started - in the same vein as the first.
0:34:04 > 0:34:07- Wales attacked, - then Brazil attacked.
0:34:08 > 0:34:12- Stuart Williams and Mel Hopkins - played the games of their lives.
0:34:12 > 0:34:15- Garrincha was the man - in the World Cup...
0:34:15 > 0:34:19- ..but Mel Hopkins played him - completely out of the game.
0:34:20 > 0:34:21- He didn't give him a kick.
0:34:22 > 0:34:26- That went a big way - to getting our performance going.
0:34:26 > 0:34:29- Twenty minutes to go and Brazil - were under the cosh.
0:34:29 > 0:34:33- All of their attacks - were stifled by the Welsh defence.
0:34:33 > 0:34:37- With less than 15 minutes to go, - nerves were fraught.
0:34:37 > 0:34:41- The ball was played into the box - and landed at the feet of... Pele.
0:34:42 > 0:34:45- It's played through to Pele. - He beats Charles.
0:34:45 > 0:34:49- He shoots and he scores. - Kelsey is finally beaten.
0:34:49 > 0:34:51- Brazil lead.
0:34:55 > 0:34:57- Pele! 1-0.
0:34:59 > 0:35:01- A fluke.
0:35:01 > 0:35:03- It just bobbled in.
0:35:03 > 0:35:07- If Pele had connected properly, - Jack would have saved it.
0:35:07 > 0:35:12- I've no doubt about that. There - was a deflection off Williams's leg.
0:35:12 > 0:35:14- It was very disappointing, that.
0:35:16 > 0:35:18- I could see - he was shaping up to shoot.
0:35:19 > 0:35:21- I'd come into the middle to cover.
0:35:21 > 0:35:25- I knew I had to get - a block tackle in.
0:35:25 > 0:35:29- He shot just before - - it only takes a split second...
0:35:30 > 0:35:32- ..before I could get there.
0:35:32 > 0:35:34- I was only about a foot away...
0:35:34 > 0:35:38- ..and it just hit my studs.
0:35:38 > 0:35:42- Jack Kelsey reckoned he'd have - got it if it hadn't touched me.
0:35:43 > 0:35:47- God bless you, Jack, - but I still don't believe you!
0:35:48 > 0:35:50- The Brazilians went crazy.
0:35:51 > 0:35:55- Pele shouted "Goal!" - and he ran to kiss the ball.
0:35:55 > 0:35:59- Some of his team jumped on top - of him and celebrated.
0:36:00 > 0:36:05- Brazil defended for the rest of - the game and passed the ball around.
0:36:05 > 0:36:08- That's how it ended, - with Brazil winning 1-0.
0:36:08 > 0:36:12- Wales were out of the World Cup - and on their way home.
0:36:13 > 0:36:15- At the end of the day...
0:36:15 > 0:36:17- ..we say if Big John had played...
0:36:18 > 0:36:21- ..you'd like to think - if he'd played, we'd have won...
0:36:21 > 0:36:23- ..but they were some team.
0:36:23 > 0:36:27- Brazil had a lot of ability.
0:36:28 > 0:36:31- Their technical skill - was magnificent.
0:36:31 > 0:36:37- We were pleased that we'd let them - know that Wales weren't pushovers.
0:36:38 > 0:36:40- We weren't.
0:36:40 > 0:36:45- We'd done quite well and Brazil - were a bit classy, a bit classy.
0:36:51 > 0:36:54- The game against Wales - was very hard.
0:36:54 > 0:36:57- They played well defensively.
0:36:57 > 0:37:04- They were more concerned with - defending than scoring themselves.
0:37:04 > 0:37:09- You can see by the result, - Pele scored and we won 1-0.
0:37:09 > 0:37:12- Beating Wales - was extremely difficult.
0:37:14 > 0:37:16- They would have beaten us anyway.
0:37:16 > 0:37:18- They were a great side.
0:37:19 > 0:37:21- They were a wonderful side, really.
0:37:22 > 0:37:25- Brazil are through - and Wales are out of the...
0:37:26 > 0:37:29- It was a good World Cup for us.
0:37:29 > 0:37:33- When you get to the quarter-finals, - you want to win.
0:37:33 > 0:37:35- You don't want to lose any game.
0:37:35 > 0:37:37- I suppose it was a success.
0:37:37 > 0:37:41- I think everybody was pleased - about that.
0:37:44 > 0:37:47- Brazil and Pele - went from strength to strength.
0:37:48 > 0:37:52- They beat France 5-2 in the - semi-final. Pele scored a hat-trick.
0:37:52 > 0:37:56- They beat hosts Sweden in the final - by the same score-line...
0:37:57 > 0:38:00- ..with Pele adding - another two to his tally.
0:38:00 > 0:38:04- The whole experience was too much - for the 17-year-old.
0:38:04 > 0:38:07- He had inspired his country - to their first World Cup.
0:38:10 > 0:38:14- Surely, a hero's welcome awaited - Wales when they returned home.
0:38:14 > 0:38:19- An open-top bus tour? No, - just Mel and the ticket collector.
0:38:19 > 0:38:22- They didn't know - we were playing out there.
0:38:23 > 0:38:25- You'd never believe that.
0:38:25 > 0:38:31- We came to Swansea Station - Ivor, - Terry Medwin, myself and Cliff...
0:38:32 > 0:38:36- ..and a ticket collector asked, - "Where've you been, on holidays?"
0:38:37 > 0:38:39- We were playing in the World Cup!
0:38:41 > 0:38:45- The end of Wales's journey - but merely the beginning of Pele's.
0:38:45 > 0:38:47- My journey continues - after the break...
0:38:47 > 0:38:51- ..as I meet the most famous name - in the history of football.
0:38:51 > 0:38:52- Pele!
0:38:58 > 0:38:59- .
0:39:01 > 0:39:01- 888
0:39:01 > 0:39:03- 888- - 888
0:39:07 > 0:39:12- Pele's adventures in the 1962 and - 1966 World Cups were cut short...
0:39:12 > 0:39:15- ..because of some brutal tackling.
0:39:16 > 0:39:20- His romance with the World Cup - reached its pinnacle in 1970.
0:39:20 > 0:39:25- Pele scored four times, including - the first goal in the final...
0:39:25 > 0:39:29- ..as Brazil won the World Cup - for the third time.
0:39:29 > 0:39:33- The 1970 team is regarded - as the best team ever.
0:39:35 > 0:39:38- Finding the man himself - was a long process.
0:39:39 > 0:39:43- After a year of phone calls, - e-mails and faxes...
0:39:43 > 0:39:48- ..between Wales, London, New York, - Los Angeles and Sao Paulo...
0:39:48 > 0:39:51- ..we were invited - to Zurich in Switzerland...
0:39:52 > 0:39:54- ..to meet him.
0:39:54 > 0:39:57- I'm outside the Baur au Lac Hotel - in Zurich.
0:39:58 > 0:40:01- I think you know - who I'm going to meet next.
0:40:07 > 0:40:10- Good afternoon. - I'm here to meet Pele.
0:40:10 > 0:40:12- Yes. Welcome to the hotel.
0:40:12 > 0:40:14- Yes. Welcome to the hotel.- - Thank you very much.
0:40:15 > 0:40:18- As the clock ticked, - the nerves started jangling.
0:40:19 > 0:40:22- All my questions turned - around and around in my head.
0:40:23 > 0:40:26- The lights and cameras were ready. - We just needed Pele.
0:40:26 > 0:40:28- KNOCK ON THE DOOR
0:40:28 > 0:40:30- Can we come in?
0:40:30 > 0:40:31- Can we come in?- - I'm Lisa.
0:40:32 > 0:40:36- It's nice meeting you. - May I introduce this gentleman here.
0:40:36 > 0:40:38- I'm Lisa. This is Gary.
0:40:38 > 0:40:40- It's an honour to meet you, sir.
0:40:41 > 0:40:42- How are you?
0:40:42 > 0:40:43- How are you?- - Very well, thank you.
0:40:45 > 0:40:48- To make the most of my time - with Pele...
0:40:48 > 0:40:51- ..I decided to get straight - to the point...
0:40:52 > 0:40:55- ..the big game in Sweden - 50 years ago.
0:40:55 > 0:40:59- How much did you know about the - Welsh team? Did you expect to win?
0:41:05 > 0:41:08- We knew very little - about the Welsh team.
0:41:08 > 0:41:13- At the time, there were no - video tapes of our opposition.
0:41:13 > 0:41:17- But we kept an eye on - the other teams in the competition.
0:41:17 > 0:41:22- We knew that Wales defended well - and were tight markers.
0:41:22 > 0:41:27- Garrincha, Zagallo and I knew - we had to be at our best...
0:41:27 > 0:41:30- ..to overcome a defence - which was physical and strong.
0:41:31 > 0:41:35- Our strength was counter-attacking - and that wasn't easy against Wales.
0:41:36 > 0:41:39- That was our main concern - before the game.
0:41:39 > 0:41:43- What are your recollections - of that game?
0:41:48 > 0:41:52- I have some fond memories - of that night...
0:41:52 > 0:41:55- ..because that game - gave me confidence.
0:41:55 > 0:41:59- It was a difficult game - and I scored the goal...
0:41:59 > 0:42:02- ..which put Brazil - into the quarter-finals.
0:42:02 > 0:42:04- Wales was the crucial game.
0:42:05 > 0:42:08- After that game, - we were full of confidence.
0:42:09 > 0:42:15- It's important to remember that we - had to defend well against them.
0:42:15 > 0:42:21- There was only one goal in it - and luckily, it was enough for us.
0:42:21 > 0:42:29- On another night, Wales could have - won. It was close until the end.
0:42:29 > 0:42:33- That's why the game - boosted my confidence.
0:42:33 > 0:42:36- It was an extremely difficult game.
0:42:36 > 0:42:40- Without a doubt, it's one of the - most important games of my career.
0:42:41 > 0:42:42- It gave me the belief...
0:42:42 > 0:42:47- ..that I could be an important part - of the Brazilian squad.
0:42:50 > 0:42:53- Were you relieved - that John Charles wasn't playing?
0:42:55 > 0:42:58- That was a disaster for Wales...
0:42:58 > 0:43:01- ..but it was good news for Brazil.
0:43:01 > 0:43:07- During the tournament, a journalist - had declared that John Charles...
0:43:07 > 0:43:11- ..was the tournament's best player.
0:43:11 > 0:43:15- Then came the news that - he wouldn't play against Brazil.
0:43:15 > 0:43:18- That made life easier for us.
0:43:19 > 0:43:24- Of course, I had to ask him about - the goal that shattered our dreams.
0:43:32 > 0:43:34- It's a goal I'll never forget.
0:43:34 > 0:43:39- Wales were playing deep - and marking us well.
0:43:39 > 0:43:42- I was close to one - of their defenders.
0:43:42 > 0:43:45- I chested the ball, - turned in an instant...
0:43:45 > 0:43:47- ..and shot for goal.
0:43:47 > 0:43:51- The other defender - had closed me down quickly...
0:43:51 > 0:43:56- ..but the ball squeezed under his - foot and into the corner of the net.
0:43:56 > 0:44:02- I was surrounded by defenders - and everything happened so quickly.
0:44:02 > 0:44:08- It was a moment of inventiveness, a - quick move intended to deceive them.
0:44:08 > 0:44:10- That was that, 1-0 to Brazil.
0:44:10 > 0:44:15- Within moments, we were all - in the goal celebrating together.
0:44:22 > 0:44:26- Without a doubt, it's the most - important goal of my career.
0:44:26 > 0:44:32- I was 17 years old and a newcomer - in the Brazilian squad.
0:44:32 > 0:44:38- The pressure of an entire nation - was on us and I scored the goal.
0:44:38 > 0:44:44- As a result, there's no doubt - that it was my most important goal.
0:44:44 > 0:44:50- It's the one that gave me confidence - to grow for the rest of my life.
0:44:52 > 0:44:55- Well, it's been a pleasure - to talk to you, Pele.
0:44:55 > 0:44:59- Many thanks for sparing the time - to talk to me.
0:45:00 > 0:45:03- On behalf of the people of Brazil...
0:45:03 > 0:45:05- ..I'd like to thank - the people of Wales.
0:45:06 > 0:45:09- I'd like to extend - my warmest greetings to you.
0:45:09 > 0:45:14- My conversation with the world's - most famous footballer ended...
0:45:14 > 0:45:16- ..with a beaming smile.
0:45:18 > 0:45:21- Even though he knocked Wales - out of the World Cup...
0:45:22 > 0:45:25- ..I could never hold a grudge - against Pele.
0:45:25 > 0:45:29- If he was standing here now - and if my arthritis allowed...
0:45:29 > 0:45:34- ..I'd kneel down, grab his legs - and say, "Thanks, son, thanks."
0:45:34 > 0:45:37- He had everything - at 17 years of age.
0:45:37 > 0:45:40- He had control, he had pace, - he was good in the air.
0:45:41 > 0:45:43- He had a great temperament.
0:45:43 > 0:45:46- You just knew - he was the complete package.
0:45:46 > 0:45:50- You knew he was going to go on - to greater things...
0:45:50 > 0:45:52- ..which, of course, he did...
0:45:52 > 0:45:57- ..becoming, possibly, the greatest - player this world has ever seen.
0:45:57 > 0:45:59- Certainly the best I've seen.
0:46:00 > 0:46:02- His talent was incredible.
0:46:02 > 0:46:07- Even when he was only 17, - he was a complete player.
0:46:13 > 0:46:19- He could head the ball, shoot with - both feet and beat defences easily.
0:46:19 > 0:46:24- A unique player, we'll never see - the likes of him again.
0:46:25 > 0:46:29- There's an endless debate - about the best player that ever was.
0:46:29 > 0:46:32- I don't think there's any doubt.
0:46:32 > 0:46:36- He scored around 1,000 goals - in around 900 games.
0:46:37 > 0:46:40- That in itself says a lot about him.
0:46:40 > 0:46:42- He was also a team player.
0:46:42 > 0:46:44- He made so many goals.
0:46:46 > 0:46:48- The man is...
0:46:48 > 0:46:51- He's unique, completely unique.
0:46:51 > 0:46:54- We should leave him - out of the equation...
0:46:54 > 0:46:57- ..and then talk - about other footballers.
0:46:57 > 0:47:00- I will never wear it again.
0:47:00 > 0:47:03- They say you should never - meet your heroes.
0:47:03 > 0:47:07- Don't talk nonsense, I say, - after meeting Pele.
0:47:07 > 0:47:10- Nothing was too much for him.
0:47:10 > 0:47:13- This shirt now hangs in a frame - on my wall.
0:47:13 > 0:47:15- Fantastic.
0:47:30 > 0:47:34- Wales haven't reached the finals of - any tournament in the past 50 years.
0:47:35 > 0:47:37- Tonight, - at the Racecourse in Wrexham...
0:47:38 > 0:47:41- ..Wales' U-21 team - are playing England U-21.
0:47:41 > 0:47:44- These lads are close - to qualifying...
0:47:44 > 0:47:47- ..for next year's - U-21 Euro Championships.
0:47:48 > 0:47:51- You'll never guess - where it's being held - Sweden!
0:47:51 > 0:47:57- Let's hope they can emulate, - or even better the heroes of 1958.
0:47:57 > 0:48:00- Where there's talent, there's hope.
0:48:00 > 0:48:02- Goodbye for now.
0:48:27 > 0:48:30- HALL OF FAME DINNER - City Hall, Cardiff - May 16th, 2008
0:48:30 > 0:48:32- It was a long time ago...
0:48:33 > 0:48:37- ..but I do have it up there - with my best moments in my career.
0:48:39 > 0:48:43- The peak is the World Cup, - without any shadow of doubt.
0:48:43 > 0:48:48- I'm just proud and honoured to have - been able to represent Wales...
0:48:48 > 0:48:49- ..in the World Cup in 1958.
0:48:52 > 0:48:54- You could never forget it.
0:48:55 > 0:48:57- It'll be in my mind - for the rest of my days.
0:48:58 > 0:49:00- That is the top of the tops.
0:49:01 > 0:49:05- There's not many people who will - play in the World Cup for Wales.
0:49:05 > 0:49:07- I hope there's more after me.
0:49:07 > 0:49:12- In the future, the Welsh boys - will perform in the World Cup again.
0:49:12 > 0:49:15- I'm sure - it's in the horizons somewhere.
0:49:21 > 0:49:24- What a bag of has-beens!
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