:00:08. > :00:11.Welcome to Wembley on FA Cup Final day.
:00:12. > :00:15.It's always one of the highlights of the season and today it sees
:00:16. > :00:17.the Premier League Champions, Chelsea, against an Arsenal
:00:18. > :00:20.team who could be saying goodbye to a manager who has
:00:21. > :00:46.It is absolutely brilliant. This is getting better and better. It comes
:00:47. > :00:59.to Ronaldo! History boys indeed. They have won the cup. They have won
:01:00. > :01:14.the cup. He has done it. He has done it! For me the first chance to do
:01:15. > :01:33.the double. We walk out at Wembley it is unbelievable.
:01:34. > :01:39.The dream for me to play in the Cup Final. Such a great competition. I
:01:40. > :01:57.hope we can win the double. Kick off 5.30pm, but fans have been
:01:58. > :02:14.asked to arrive early because there will be extra security
:02:15. > :02:16.after those terrible events There are more armed officers
:02:17. > :02:23.here today and the FA says there will be enhanced security
:02:24. > :02:26.for the 90,000 fans There will be a minute's
:02:27. > :02:38.silence before kick-off. The Duke of Cambridge will also lay
:02:39. > :02:41.a wreath before kick-off. What happened in Manchester
:02:42. > :02:43.on Monday night has deeply The football community often comes
:02:44. > :02:49.together at times like this. The two rivals across Manchester
:02:50. > :02:53.have been a City Uunited. Together they have donated
:02:54. > :02:58.?1 million to the emergency fund. No doubt there will be
:02:59. > :03:00.sombre tone to much And we have this on the way between
:03:01. > :03:25.now and 1 o'clock. You don't mind criticism, the lack
:03:26. > :03:27.of respect has been for me a disgrace.
:03:28. > :03:37.I think the concentration, you are able to fight to play this game
:03:38. > :03:41.against Arsenal. to have a big influence
:03:42. > :03:45.on proceedings at Wembley. With Celtic closing in on a season
:03:46. > :03:59.undefeated, we'll look back It was the conquering of Europe by a
:04:00. > :04:03.bunch of players drawn from a wee corner of a wee nation.
:04:04. > :04:07.as they prepare to take on Reading in Monday's ?170 million playoff.
:04:08. > :04:12.Ellis James goes toe to toe with Wrighty.
:04:13. > :04:21.Can you take this long? Neil Webb. You can't do that.
:04:22. > :04:23.And we have a whole afternoon of coverage ahead.
:04:24. > :04:35.Then there's the Road to Wembley at 2.40pm, an Arsene Wenger
:04:36. > :04:43.The history of the football joke presented by Omid Djalili follows
:04:44. > :04:48.that, and then at 4.15 it's the Cup Final build-up itself.
:04:49. > :04:50.Lots of great telly to come then - including
:04:51. > :04:58.Get the popcorn out, hide the remote and only leave
:04:59. > :05:07.after their budding bromance during our semi final show
:05:08. > :05:10.from Wembley, there was a huge demand to get the band back
:05:11. > :05:23.Three FA Cups as a player to Martin, a Cup win for Ruud as Manager.
:05:24. > :05:25.Although, if we're talking Top Trumps, a Ballon d'Or
:05:26. > :05:36.And he was the first overseas manager to win it. For me, I was
:05:37. > :05:40.watching the FA Cup when I was a kid, I remember these players, they
:05:41. > :05:45.had numbers on their socks, little flags with the number on it.
:05:46. > :05:50.Probably Leeds. Loved that. I would love to play like this. To be out
:05:51. > :05:55.there as a manager for the first time at Wembley I will never forget
:05:56. > :06:01.it. Does the weather, does it make a difference? It will be hot? Yes,
:06:02. > :06:09.look you're going to feel it. The most important thing is let the ball
:06:10. > :06:16.do the work. As a defender what frightens you is that green grass,
:06:17. > :06:20.the pitch looks massive. I'm not sure I would want too play against
:06:21. > :06:25.Hazard. But you have to love the occasion. This is the reason I came
:06:26. > :06:30.into the game. I watched the 74 Cup Final and wanted to be part of it
:06:31. > :06:35.and people show this as the show piece match. You need too start
:06:36. > :06:42.smiling yourself, Dan. There is a team talk. It is a great day and it
:06:43. > :06:48.is a privilege to be here. I'm quite happy already. We know that Chelsea
:06:49. > :06:52.are at a hotel in London and across from us is the Wembley Hilton where
:06:53. > :07:00.the Arsenal players are staying. They will get a coach, oom although
:07:01. > :07:05.it is a two and a half minute walk. What is the mind set, do you want to
:07:06. > :07:09.think about the final or anything but? That was my stance. Anything
:07:10. > :07:15.but the final. Lock it away until the next day. That can be difficult
:07:16. > :07:20.when it is outside the window. Maybe too close. I think that is the
:07:21. > :07:26.legacy of back in the day they stopped at a posh hotel and it took
:07:27. > :07:33.over an hour to get here. We were almost sea sick by the time we got
:07:34. > :07:37.here. What I like is when you arrive with the bus, you see the sea of
:07:38. > :07:41.fans and you go through that. You know, they want to cheer you up and
:07:42. > :07:46.you want to feel the hostility of the enemy and the joy of your own
:07:47. > :07:51.fans. That makes you, that is part of the build up and makes you...
:07:52. > :07:55.Today for Arsenal with Arsene Wenger, get behind Arsene Wenger
:07:56. > :07:59.today. It could be the last occasion that Arsene Wenger is a manager of
:08:00. > :08:03.this club and they need the fans to be united and to believe in him.
:08:04. > :08:05.Time to hear from Martin's ex-gaffer.
:08:06. > :08:07.Arsene Wenger has won the cup half a dozen times
:08:08. > :08:10.in 20 years at the club, but today could be his
:08:11. > :08:14.His future is due to be decided in the next couple of weeks,
:08:15. > :08:16.but he's certainly not going without landing a punch.
:08:17. > :08:27.I have always loved English football, the way football is
:08:28. > :08:32.created, people said a foreign coach could never be successful in
:08:33. > :08:37.England. How special was that first Cup Final, completed the double. But
:08:38. > :08:43.it was at the old Wembley. Yes and that makes a big difference. Because
:08:44. > :08:48.I have seen the first Cup Finals at the old Wembley and for me that was
:08:49. > :08:55.nearly a dream, it was really something special. To walk out there
:08:56. > :08:58.at Wembley with the tradition... Walk your team out is something
:08:59. > :09:18.exceptional. The first time you do that. It's really unbelievable.
:09:19. > :09:26.2006 to 2014 we had restricted finances and had to sell our best
:09:27. > :09:34.players and remain at the top. But we had to be in the Champions League
:09:35. > :09:39.and we had to make at least 54,000 average attendance to pay back our
:09:40. > :09:44.debt. I think that was the most difficult period of my life. As well
:09:45. > :09:50.with maybe I did the best work, if you give me the chance today again,
:09:51. > :09:59.I tell you, no thank you, let somebody else do it. Arsenal haven't
:10:00. > :10:03.won a trophy for 2,382 days. When you don't win for a while and we had
:10:04. > :10:09.the success before, everybody says, where are the trophies. It is a
:10:10. > :10:18.goal. Unbelievable start. Headed down. Hit the post. It is 2-0. It is
:10:19. > :10:25.knocked in. We're 2-0 down, we were shaky, nervous, we had to win. Right
:10:26. > :10:30.footed, swings it in. Great goal. Fabulous free kick from Cazorla and
:10:31. > :10:36.Arsenal are back in it. We came back in it and Ramsey scored and got us
:10:37. > :10:43.that first trophy we hadn't won for a while. On the night it was just a
:10:44. > :10:46.relief. Definition of madness, keep making the same mistakes thinking
:10:47. > :10:51.the outcome will be different. From top to bottom, there is no
:10:52. > :10:59.leadership. We have been made a laughing stock. Some of the
:11:00. > :11:06.criticism has been severe. You don't mind criticism. Because we are in
:11:07. > :11:11.the public job. The lack of respect in some stage has been for me a
:11:12. > :11:15.disgrace. And I will never accept that. I believe there is a
:11:16. > :11:21.difference between being criticised and being treated in a way that a
:11:22. > :11:29.human being, I don't deserve to be treated. I will never forget that.
:11:30. > :11:35.The behaviour of some people during the season... That hurts me most chl
:11:36. > :11:38.because behind the work and the respect for this club are the values
:11:39. > :11:46.this club respected and the image the club has given in recent weeks
:11:47. > :11:50.is absolutely unacceptable. Because it tarnishes the impeccable image
:11:51. > :11:54.that the club has. But because there are people who love you at
:11:55. > :12:01.Arsenal... I don't question that. I just think... And I know that I meet
:12:02. > :12:06.so many people who love this club and who I share the passion for the
:12:07. > :12:13.club. It's not my person that is hurt. I don't believe that kind of
:12:14. > :12:18.behaviour reflect what is Arsenal is and the values that Arsenal carries.
:12:19. > :12:21.Can you see that moment, will you walk out of dressing room for the
:12:22. > :12:26.last time, it has been your life. Of course I can see that. I'm not
:12:27. > :12:35.specially interested in that. We live in a society that's always very
:12:36. > :12:39.categorical and dismissive and I'm just interested in doing quality
:12:40. > :12:46.work each day and let others judge that. I believe some club is people
:12:47. > :12:50.who make decisions, no make the right decisions and that's why I
:12:51. > :12:55.think the board is important and the manager is important in a football
:12:56. > :13:00.club. What has gone wrong in the modern society it's not any more is
:13:01. > :13:07.this the right decision, but is this popular or not popular. It is to buy
:13:08. > :13:12.this player popular or not. Is to sack this manager, to employ this
:13:13. > :13:18.manager popular. But it has nothing to do with competence. People have
:13:19. > :13:24.to make the decision. People have to be strong to make decisions that are
:13:25. > :13:29.not popular. The more expensive a player is the more credit he gets.
:13:30. > :13:36.Nobody looks can he dribble, can he pass, can he kick the ball? He has
:13:37. > :13:40.cost ?150 million he must be exceptional. I think we have to keep
:13:41. > :13:46.it simple and just make the right decisions. Enjoy the weekend. Enjoy
:13:47. > :13:51.it because football is first when you get up in the morning, expect
:13:52. > :13:58.the game and expect some moments of happiness. That is why we love the
:13:59. > :14:06.game. Interesting stuff and there is more of that interview at 3.15.
:14:07. > :14:11.Could this be a seventh Cup Final win? We have the helicopter up there
:14:12. > :14:16.in the sky S welcome to a glorious Wembley Stadium. It looks beautiful.
:14:17. > :14:22.The heat in here becomes a little oppressive. On Arsene Wenger, he
:14:23. > :14:25.still loves the game, strong words about the board meeting that will
:14:26. > :14:33.take place in the next few weeks to decide his future. What to your mind
:14:34. > :14:38.is the best outcome forArsenal? It seems if he was to go now it doesn't
:14:39. > :14:43.give us a lot of time to get the next man. I feel he should be part
:14:44. > :14:47.of the process to work this through. But he seems defiant. He doesn't
:14:48. > :14:51.sound like a man who is about to go. He is calling out the board and
:14:52. > :14:54.asking them to not go with the popular decision. The fans are
:14:55. > :15:00.against him. You can't believe that's happened in the last 12 years
:15:01. > :15:03.from what he has achieved and he wants, you know it may not be
:15:04. > :15:05.popular, but he said make the right decision. Is he right there has been
:15:06. > :15:20.a lack of respect? It's difficult. Football is about
:15:21. > :15:27.winning. But only one can win. That doesn't necessarily make you a bad
:15:28. > :15:32.manager if you don't. I think Arsenal has had long opportunities
:15:33. > :15:36.to be on top, and I think he went with talent, not so much with
:15:37. > :15:42.players who have already achieved a lot. Sanchez is one, and Ozil now.
:15:43. > :15:46.But he needs more, especially in the defence. So therefore, I understand
:15:47. > :15:53.the fans. He also understands the fans, but he is fighting. He wants
:15:54. > :15:57.to continue, and I understand why. But I woke up this morning think it
:15:58. > :16:01.was obvious that this would be the last day. Why would Arsene Wenger
:16:02. > :16:04.commit to his future? Why create that uncertainty? Maybe he didn't
:16:05. > :16:08.want to announce that and go out on a fanfare and be lauded by the fans.
:16:09. > :16:14.He wants to go away quietly. Maybe he goes at the end of today, come
:16:15. > :16:18.what may. But in that interview, he was fighting. That was a different
:16:19. > :16:22.Arsene Wenger. It is his life. He doesn't want to let go of football.
:16:23. > :16:29.He said retirement is for old people. Old people die. But how
:16:30. > :16:33.serious it is for him. His life is dependent on staying in management.
:16:34. > :16:39.You say it could be his last game. Let's look at the probable team.
:16:40. > :16:46.There could be a number of issues at the back. Koscielny is suspended. He
:16:47. > :16:51.might be without others as well. Monreal is also a doubt. Holding
:16:52. > :17:03.will be taking on a full strength Chelsea seven. Haldane, ?1.5
:17:04. > :17:07.million. Mertesacker has only played 37 minutes of the season. Ospina
:17:08. > :17:12.coming in is a strange one. You can bet that two ways. You can say
:17:13. > :17:16.Arsene Wenger believes in all his players, but Petr Cech should be
:17:17. > :17:21.playing. You want that confident player with experience. Ruud, this
:17:22. > :17:29.guy has only played 37 minutes this season. The first time pasta put
:17:30. > :17:32.him, on the last minute of the transfer deadline, everyone was
:17:33. > :17:37.surprised. Of course, he did his part, but I don't think he has been
:17:38. > :17:43.the important part in defence. So therefore, if he doesn't play, it's
:17:44. > :17:47.even worse for him. But worse for Arsenal. We saw the game against
:17:48. > :17:52.Tottenham here. The moment has on Costa came in, the game changed. If
:17:53. > :17:58.you have players who are against you who can run at you and rebel at you,
:17:59. > :18:01.it's difficult, especially for him. He's been out in the cold for a long
:18:02. > :18:07.time and he is strong mentally. He is going to need to be. Wembley has
:18:08. > :18:11.been good to him. He screwed here for Germany. He is a big player and
:18:12. > :18:14.will have to call on all of his experience -- he scored here for
:18:15. > :18:20.Germany. It has been a turbulent time for Premier League managers
:18:21. > :18:26.generally. We saw the departure of David Moyes, Sam Allardyce leaving
:18:27. > :18:29.Crystal Palace. It's not a long term game for most people. The only
:18:30. > :18:36.certainty you have is that you get sacked! Therefore, prepare yourself
:18:37. > :18:40.for that. It is a hard world for managers now. People want instant
:18:41. > :18:43.success. And especially with all the millions now that English football
:18:44. > :18:48.clubs get, it's easy to get good players, so people expect a lot. It
:18:49. > :18:53.doesn't necessarily have the best players, because with the money you
:18:54. > :18:57.have, sometimes you see players where you think, hmm, would you buy
:18:58. > :19:01.that? But English players cost a lot of money. They are also the core of
:19:02. > :19:05.the team. That is what Tottenham have done exceptionally well this
:19:06. > :19:11.year. You have mentioned a few superstar names. Let's look at two
:19:12. > :19:15.men who may have a big impact today. Restart with Chelsea's magic little
:19:16. > :19:27.Belgium. One is looking rosy at the moment in the garden of Eden.
:19:28. > :19:40.Hazard, it's in! You have been a standout player this season. What
:19:41. > :19:49.drives you to keep going? Not just me. The whole team, all the players
:19:50. > :19:54.have been fantastic. We won a lot of games. At the end of the season, we
:19:55. > :20:00.deserved to win this title. We have one FA Cup final to play. So we have
:20:01. > :20:03.to be ready for everything. Then we can go on holiday. Antonio Conte has
:20:04. > :20:09.taken the Premier League by storm. What do you think has been key to
:20:10. > :20:13.his success? When he changed the system after two games. We lost the
:20:14. > :20:19.games against Liverpool and Arsenal. Then in training, we work hard every
:20:20. > :20:23.day. This has been key to the success. You mentioned that he
:20:24. > :20:28.changed after the Arsenal game. You have got them again in the final.
:20:29. > :20:31.How will you prepare as a team? We played the second game against
:20:32. > :20:39.Arsenal at Stamford Bridge and we won. We played a fantastic game.
:20:40. > :20:46.Brilliant! A brilliant goal by Eden Hazard! So we will see. It's a
:20:47. > :20:52.final. It's all about details. I hope Chelsea can win the final. You
:20:53. > :20:57.have won the double before. How do you deal with the pressures? You
:20:58. > :21:00.have already won the league, but there is an extra pressure to win
:21:01. > :21:08.the FA Cup. How amazing is the feeling once you do? You always want
:21:09. > :21:15.more. For Chelsea, a big club like this, you need to win one, two,
:21:16. > :21:19.three trophies a season if you can. We have the possibility to win
:21:20. > :21:24.another trophy, so all the players are ready for that. Did you ever
:21:25. > :21:28.watch the FA Cup as a child? Did you ever imagine you would play in the
:21:29. > :21:32.final? I watched the Premier League, but not the FA Cup, to be fair. I
:21:33. > :21:38.started to watch the FA Cup when I came here five years ago. It is such
:21:39. > :21:42.a great competition for the fans also. Chelsea won a lot in this
:21:43. > :21:47.competition, but since five years, we have missed that. So I hope for
:21:48. > :21:57.me it will be the first one this season, and I hope we will be better
:21:58. > :22:00.than the last five years. Terrific season to Eden Hazard. If
:22:01. > :22:03.you're just joining us, it's Football Focus. We are live from
:22:04. > :22:06.Wembley in the build-up to the FA Cup final. We are in the Chelsea
:22:07. > :22:10.dugout with Martin Keown and Ruud Gullit. This is where Eden Hazard
:22:11. > :22:14.was that for the semifinal. He came on and made a big difference.
:22:15. > :22:18.Martin, we have seen throughout this season, particularly in the game
:22:19. > :22:22.against Arsenal, when he runs at differences, he is terrifying.
:22:23. > :22:27.Frightening. And his dribbling ability is up there with the very
:22:28. > :22:31.top players. You are looking at Bale, Messi, Neymar, they won
:22:32. > :22:36.brilliantly with the ball. This fellow decides when he goes past his
:22:37. > :22:40.opponent. He is that good. He is on a halfway line here and there are
:22:41. > :22:45.top players around him. They can't get near him. This is Koscielny, one
:22:46. > :22:48.of the best defenders in the Premier League. It goes past him. He
:22:49. > :22:52.embarrasses him. There is a cutting edge to his game this season that
:22:53. > :22:56.disappeared last year. When he is in the mood and you keep him right and
:22:57. > :23:02.satisfy his needs, he is up there with the best. Do you like? I like
:23:03. > :23:06.him very much. He is a decisive player. He plays so cleverly between
:23:07. > :23:12.the lines. He doesn't stay as a left-winger. Chelsea are hopeful to
:23:13. > :23:18.keep him, but I think Real Madrid want him. It could be a swap, maybe,
:23:19. > :23:22.with another great player like Bale. That is what the rumours are, but I
:23:23. > :23:29.hope he stays at Chelsea because he has been vital. Their system helps
:23:30. > :23:34.him. The Blitz is created by the wingbacks and then he can come into
:23:35. > :23:38.those pockets. -- the witness is created by the wingbacks. We have
:23:39. > :23:41.looked at the Arsenal side and talked about the possibilities and
:23:42. > :23:49.the choices that Arsene Wenger makes. This is Chelsea, Ruud. It
:23:50. > :23:55.picks itself. They have had not as many games as the others. Next year
:23:56. > :23:59.will be a different season for them, with much more games to play. The
:24:00. > :24:05.Champions League will be very important for them. But with
:24:06. > :24:09.Fabregas, when you hear him saying this is the biggest contribution he
:24:10. > :24:13.has made a winning, he has hardly played. That tells you about the
:24:14. > :24:16.manager and how he has made him feel a part of it. That will be a big
:24:17. > :24:21.call next year. It is the fewest games since 2000. So it has been a
:24:22. > :24:26.joy for them. A lot of work has been done on the training pitch. If you
:24:27. > :24:31.win, you can do anything as a coach. The moment you start to lose, all of
:24:32. > :24:36.a sudden the guys who don't play are getting a bit grumpy. Something is
:24:37. > :24:40.going on at the back. We have to see next year if Chelsea can keep doing
:24:41. > :24:49.the same that they did. Nice leg cut Martin Keown the! -- nice leg touch
:24:50. > :24:51.on Martin Keown. Let's look at the side who have qualified for the
:24:52. > :24:56.Premier League. Manchester United now go straight into the group
:24:57. > :25:02.stages of the Champions League after winning the Europa League. Could you
:25:03. > :25:06.call it a gamble that paid off, winning the Europa League? I don't
:25:07. > :25:10.think it's a gamble. Week in, week out, you look at what happens. All
:25:11. > :25:17.of a sudden, you draw a lot of games. The league title is out of
:25:18. > :25:21.your reach and you are still in the Uefa league. That is not a gamble.
:25:22. > :25:30.Then you think to yourself, a prize is a prize. Congratulations to
:25:31. > :25:36.Manchester United. Last year, they won the FA Cup and lost their
:25:37. > :25:39.manager. But now they are going forward again. He calls it three
:25:40. > :25:45.trophies because he includes the Community Shield. This was last
:25:46. > :25:50.year. Where would be a good move for Wayne Rooney? I would like to see
:25:51. > :25:54.him challenged again. I do feel there is a lot still under the
:25:55. > :25:57.bonnet. I would love to see him back Everton, with a point to prove.
:25:58. > :26:02.Seita Mourinho, you have made the wrong call. He's 31. They're still
:26:03. > :26:06.must be some football in him. I am not having this business of saying
:26:07. > :26:11.the club has run out, he started young. We all started young. It is
:26:12. > :26:14.about desire and passion. He has been dignified in the way they let
:26:15. > :26:20.him go, but he has to come back. He's too young. What I like about
:26:21. > :26:27.this situation and Rooney is that Mourinho is in power. He decides
:26:28. > :26:32.what is happening, not the players. That is what Ferguson did also. He
:26:33. > :26:36.got rid of Jaap Stam. He regretted it, but he got rid of him. He also
:26:37. > :26:41.got rid of Beckham when he thought it was right. That is a sign of a
:26:42. > :26:51.great manager. Martin, you need to smile a bit more. He is already in
:26:52. > :26:55.the mood of playing. Let's play now! Well, hold on because we have plenty
:26:56. > :27:03.more still to come before one on Football Focus. Enclosing Mesut Ozil
:27:04. > :27:10.on why the cup mean so much and Antonio Conte on securing a bit of
:27:11. > :27:15.the probable for the Blues. -- secured a bit of double bubble. It
:27:16. > :27:17.is not just Chelsea go into too domestic trophies. Celtic are hoping
:27:18. > :27:21.to add to the title they have already won. They take on Aberdeen
:27:22. > :27:25.at Hampden this weekend and Brendan Rodgers' team are one match away
:27:26. > :27:29.from having a completely unbeaten season. It comes 50 years after a
:27:30. > :27:35.Celtic side made up of 11 players born within 30 miles of the stadium
:27:36. > :27:42.became the first British winners of the European Cup.
:27:43. > :27:54.Celtic have scored! The European Cup is on its way to
:27:55. > :28:19.Glasgow. I am a Lisbon Lions. I am a Lisbon
:28:20. > :28:31.Lion. Proud to be with the Lisbon Lions. I covered the 1967 cup final.
:28:32. > :28:34.Jock steamboat talent and loads of personality to the job of managing a
:28:35. > :28:40.football team that have never been surpassed. We trained the day before
:28:41. > :28:46.and all of a sudden, they picked up the pace. The team were standing in
:28:47. > :28:53.the enclosure and the boss must have seen it. The pace, the determination
:28:54. > :29:03.and the fun, that was the most important thing. We did it with
:29:04. > :29:08.passion. He said, these people! That was Inter Milan, of course. He said,
:29:09. > :29:12.these people are defensive and that is their business, but that's not
:29:13. > :29:17.our way. He said, we are going to win this in a manner that will make
:29:18. > :29:26.every neutral happy that we have won it. We left the dress room --
:29:27. > :29:34.dressing room and the Italians undoubtedly looked better than us.
:29:35. > :29:39.But he started. He started singing in the tunnel.
:29:40. > :29:53.# And if you know the history, it's enough to make your heart go...
:29:54. > :29:57.# Can I relax now? # And the Glasgow Celtic will be
:29:58. > :29:59.there. When you walk up those stairs, there was just a mass of
:30:00. > :30:10.people. COMMENTATOR: Here comes the two
:30:11. > :30:15.teams. Away we go for the 12th European Cup Final. That nutter of
:30:16. > :30:23.the referee blew the whistle and we were under way. A good ball and a
:30:24. > :30:29.penalty. It was a left footed outside right going down, the
:30:30. > :30:34.chances are he would come inside. I run across his path. I didn't think
:30:35. > :30:40.many referees would give a penalty. But this one did. It is 1-0 to
:30:41. > :30:45.Inter. When they get into the lead, they're a tough team to beat. You
:30:46. > :30:49.feel this is a job of work. Their aim was to get a goal and sit back.
:30:50. > :30:59.We believed in the boss and ourselves. A brilliant move by Auld.
:31:00. > :31:03.Half-time the manager told us to play the way we are playing and just
:31:04. > :31:08.push it a bit more. Off we go with Celtic to kick off. Through the run,
:31:09. > :31:21.they were the easiest opposition we played. Inter after a very short
:31:22. > :31:25.time were playing to hang on. Gemmell it is a goal. Celtic
:31:26. > :31:36.performed in way that you felt had to win the match. In comes Craig.
:31:37. > :31:40.Gemmell has scored a great goal. He has done it. 17 minutes of the
:31:41. > :31:47.second half gone. We scored the goal, they came to the halfway line
:31:48. > :31:53.and you thought, they're gone. Gemmell, Murdoch, it is there,
:31:54. > :31:57.Celtic have scored! I think Chalmers put it in, but it doesn't matter.
:31:58. > :32:06.Only five minutes to go. The European Cup is on its way to
:32:07. > :32:15.Glasgow. They had taken a wrecking ball to the theories about the per
:32:16. > :32:21.centages of defensive football. The whistle goes. I ran and he jumped
:32:22. > :32:30.into my arms and we fell into centre circle. A friend is there and he
:32:31. > :32:34.jumped each other's arms. Here was the conquering of Europe by a bunch
:32:35. > :32:41.of players drawn from a wee corner of a wee nation. There is the great
:32:42. > :32:46.scene, Billy McNeil takes the European Cup. That is the best one I
:32:47. > :32:52.have seen of any captain receiving a cup. He liked to be called Caesar
:32:53. > :32:56.and it looked as if Caesar ruled. What a story. Love the singing in
:32:57. > :33:03.the tunnel before the game. There is more on that on BBC1 Scotland this
:33:04. > :33:07.afternoon with the Scottish Cup Final. And we have moved again. In
:33:08. > :33:13.our trips to Wembley, I don't think we have been in the press box. We
:33:14. > :33:19.have shown you the Royal Box and you can probably see John Murray and
:33:20. > :33:24.Mark Chapman. Give us a wave. Here is the press box where there will be
:33:25. > :33:29.300 members of media and 20 TV stations broadcasting the FA Cup
:33:30. > :33:34.final around the world. Alex Scott will be doing BBC social media. All
:33:35. > :33:40.the behind the scenes is stuff. And Pat Nevin is part of five live team.
:33:41. > :33:45.Looking at that Celtic side, this is part of your footballing education.
:33:46. > :33:57.More than education. My footballing life. Simpson, Craig, Gemmell, Auld,
:33:58. > :34:02.Lennox. Phenomenal team. Everyone brilliant. And I was able to watch
:34:03. > :34:05.them in their later years and the Celtic team that came after was
:34:06. > :34:10.fabulous. Do you think Aberdeen could spoil the party? They could,
:34:11. > :34:18.but it is an outside chance. Celtic a good distance ahead and it shows
:34:19. > :34:25.30 points ahead. It has been hard for Aberdeen, but Aberdeen are a
:34:26. > :34:29.good side and Derek McInnes is a manager who has learned a lot
:34:30. > :34:34.playing against Brendan Rodgers. But Brendan Rodgers is top standard.
:34:35. > :34:39.There is a chance, but a slim one. Talking of invincible sides, you
:34:40. > :34:43.watched a lot of Arsenal team in 2002, it is a stunning achievement.
:34:44. > :34:48.It is go to go a whole season unbeaten and every game people are,
:34:49. > :34:54.OK we need to win this one and keep that score, that line going. I
:34:55. > :34:59.remember being at highborough -- highborough and watching Henry and
:35:00. > :35:04.Pires taking it all in, because it is special. What do you think today?
:35:05. > :35:09.Do you think you will be smiling at the end? A one off game, anything
:35:10. > :35:14.can happen in finals. I remember being here playing Chelsea ladies
:35:15. > :35:20.and they were favourites, but we won. Will it be Chelsea? I think
:35:21. > :35:23.Chelsea are favourites, but certainly Arsenal are not lambs to
:35:24. > :35:28.the slaughter as people have been suggesting. That is not the case.
:35:29. > :35:35.Arsenal have to play at their very best and hope Chelsea have a slight
:35:36. > :35:39.off day and probably the most important man here Antonio Conte had
:35:40. > :35:47.to have a bad tactical day, I haven't seen him have one yet. Good
:35:48. > :35:54.point. More from Pat this afternoon. And Alex will be every where. Now
:35:55. > :36:02.one of Arsenal's top boys, Ozil and the club are keen to hold on to
:36:03. > :36:36.German World Cup winner. Will he take control of the game today?
:36:37. > :38:50.Ozil over the top looking for Walcott. And scores.
:38:51. > :39:00.That is a yes rather than a yes. We are in the belly of Wembley Stadium.
:39:01. > :39:05.They have some other Arsenal players there. Arsenal requested the east
:39:06. > :39:09.dressing room at Wembley and they have had success there. Chelsea
:39:10. > :39:18.wanted the west end, because when they have been at Wembley, they have
:39:19. > :39:27.won all the finals in 2007, 2009 and 2010 and 2012, so both clubs happy
:39:28. > :39:32.with the dressing rooms. Hooker Here are Ruud and Martin. You have been
:39:33. > :39:36.outspoken about Ozil, he didn't seem to be around when they needed him
:39:37. > :39:41.most. What has he not been doing? He took a lot of criticism personally,
:39:42. > :39:45.a lot of people coming for him and he wasn't available for selection,
:39:46. > :39:50.whether illness, injury, he showed up lately. Arsenal winning eight
:39:51. > :39:54.games of the last nine. But today, it is out of possession that I have
:39:55. > :39:59.a problem. He needs to work harder. Even the great players have to do
:40:00. > :40:02.that. The Bergkamps and the Henrys work hard to get back into position.
:40:03. > :40:06.You do that for the team. And occasionally when he has thrown his
:40:07. > :40:10.arms in the air, players are trying to get the ball to him. Might be it
:40:11. > :40:17.should have been policed better by the players and maybe they're too
:40:18. > :40:22.nice. But they're back on track. But Ozil has to work to earn my respect.
:40:23. > :40:28.Needs to earn respect. You lead by example. If you are one of best
:40:29. > :40:34.players and you have won a World Cup, you have to do that. If you do,
:40:35. > :40:39.the other players will repay that with work and give you the ball.
:40:40. > :40:45.That is your position in the team. The other key man will be Sanchez,
:40:46. > :40:51.he has a great record at Wembley, in five games for country and club he
:40:52. > :40:57.has scored six. Including this beauty. I think he is tailor made
:40:58. > :41:03.for this type of pitch. It has that great athleticism and he is an
:41:04. > :41:06.opportunist and he is a defender's nightmare. You can't give him a
:41:07. > :41:12.moment's space. He is a match winner. I love him. His work rate is
:41:13. > :41:17.high. That is why people love him also. That is why the players love
:41:18. > :41:21.him. Therefore great player, I think that was the right buy for Arsenal.
:41:22. > :41:27.They can hurt Chelsea. They can but they need to test the back three and
:41:28. > :41:30.they have two midfield players in Matic and Kante, Kante is almost two
:41:31. > :41:36.players in one. They're playing with 12 players. And they offer
:41:37. > :41:38.themselves brilliantly. But their manager has stitched in the
:41:39. > :41:43.information to the players. They know their roles and Arsene Wenger's
:41:44. > :41:47.copied that system, what a great compliment that is. We have two
:41:48. > :41:51.teams with a back three. I can't remember that happening. It is a
:41:52. > :41:59.bank holiday weekend final of finals, a League Two play off and a
:42:00. > :42:06.Championship play-off that seas Reading playing on Huddersfield.
:42:07. > :42:14.David Wagner has been talking to Mark Clemmit.
:42:15. > :42:21.Wise words from Huddersfield native and former Prime Minister, Harold
:42:22. > :42:30.Wilson. I think football has changed a bit since then when the club were
:42:31. > :42:36.last in the top flight. A goal. 45 years on from the days of Frank
:42:37. > :42:40.Worthington the three times former champions of England and one of the
:42:41. > :42:46.favourites for relegation are preparing for arguably the biggest
:42:47. > :42:50.game in their history. What I want to know is what sort of things are
:42:51. > :43:00.going through your head right now with such an enor nous game looming?
:43:01. > :43:06.Maybe it sounds boring, but it is exactly the same as what I had in my
:43:07. > :43:09.head before the league match. I have Reading what we can do, what they're
:43:10. > :43:18.doing, who is available and who will be fit, what we will do in training.
:43:19. > :43:23.Have you taken your squad and said, forget the occasion, this is just a
:43:24. > :43:27.game? From my point of view they can take that atmosphere, the occasion
:43:28. > :43:31.if this gives them a lift. I'm not worried about that they will be
:43:32. > :43:36.nervous, because what they have done in the semi-finals, this makes me
:43:37. > :43:42.totally relaxed they're able to focus in different circumstances. Up
:43:43. > :43:50.it comes and it is saved by Ward and the dream goes on for Huddersfield
:43:51. > :43:55.Town. Maybe with Rio is the Wembley Stadium in London one of the best
:43:56. > :43:59.football places where you can be involved and we are involved in a
:44:00. > :44:04.proper competition match in the final to come to the Premier League.
:44:05. > :44:13.We know that this city will be bouncing if we are successful for
:44:14. > :44:18.sure. You're going to Wembley. Yes. I'm worried about the rest of guys.
:44:19. > :44:27.There will be nobody here. They can a day off. I hope we win and we will
:44:28. > :44:31.be hitting the big boys. It has been an incredible season and I'm stood
:44:32. > :44:36.here with yourself thoroughly proud of what we have achieved so far and
:44:37. > :44:41.if there is any club who deserves the opportunity to be there at
:44:42. > :44:47.Wembley to contest the play-off it is our club. I have a problem I
:44:48. > :44:51.asked Andy your coach, what it is that you do, your attention to
:44:52. > :44:56.detail. He said, your attention to detail is so great you are not
:44:57. > :45:03.allowing any of your staff to tell anybody what your attention to
:45:04. > :45:10.detail is! He is well trained. Or they didn't understand!
:45:11. > :45:15.Do you allow yourself to dream that you could be walking up those steps
:45:16. > :45:24.with the greatest prize in your clutches? At the minute, my head is
:45:25. > :45:27.only around how we can beat them. Then I can think about the Premier
:45:28. > :45:31.League. It makes no sense to think about it before because we are not
:45:32. > :45:36.die, but we will try everything to be there, for sure. It is very hard
:45:37. > :45:42.to control Ruud Gullit. He is wandering around, having a look at
:45:43. > :45:47.everything. Where are you going? I want to talk to you both about
:45:48. > :45:50.Huddersfield and Reading. Martin, Huddersfield have a really
:45:51. > :45:53.impressive story. The David Wagner has done things, that rotation of
:45:54. > :45:58.the squad, and to get them to one game of the Premier League is
:45:59. > :46:01.remarkable. It certainly is. And the pressure on that game, it is the
:46:02. > :46:06.biggest game in football and they will be here to see how the players
:46:07. > :46:09.cope with that. They want to join the big time, Huddersfield. It has
:46:10. > :46:16.been a long time coming. But they have got to get past Reading, and
:46:17. > :46:20.Jaap Stam has done just as good a job. From one Dutchman to another. I
:46:21. > :46:30.am very proud of him, because he had to the Dutch course as well. I got
:46:31. > :46:35.the diploma. And he is doing well at the moment. He makes them play in
:46:36. > :46:45.his style and he has success with it. I am very proud of him. A lot of
:46:46. > :46:50.old players who did that course which was tailor-made for them have
:46:51. > :46:54.done extremely well. So competence to the Dutch federation. Jaap Stam
:46:55. > :46:57.didn't make it onto the candidates for Manager of the Year. He should
:46:58. > :47:03.have been on there. You can feel the heat now. We have one Arsenal legend
:47:04. > :47:08.with us. We will bring in another one. This is a man who won the FA
:47:09. > :47:16.Cup final twice for Arsenal, the one and only Jebet silver. Lovely to see
:47:17. > :47:23.you. -- Ubeto server. How are you? You won the FA Cup alongside this
:47:24. > :47:28.man in 2003 with Arsenal. What do you remember about that game,
:47:29. > :47:36.Gilberto Silva? It was a great day when you play your final game for
:47:37. > :47:44.your club. It was a great day for us even though it was not an easy game.
:47:45. > :47:52.But the end, we got it. It was great after the game. You came in as a
:47:53. > :47:55.World Cup winner, and so humble. Straightaway, you could see he was a
:47:56. > :47:59.winner. It was his chance to play in a cup final, and you had great years
:48:00. > :48:06.at the club, playing alongside Patrick Vieira, a truly great
:48:07. > :48:10.player. I can say that was the greatest year in football in my
:48:11. > :48:14.life. I played for Arsenal for six years. It is not so easy as a
:48:15. > :48:18.Brazilian to come here and succeed in the best football in the world
:48:19. > :48:31.for a great club like Arsenal. I was fortunate enough to play alongside
:48:32. > :48:40.Martin Keown. He is my good friend! Are you going to stick around? I
:48:41. > :48:44.want to know something. What was the big difference from the football you
:48:45. > :48:49.play before and when you came to England? Of course, the language
:48:50. > :48:54.first. And then? I think the pace of the game, my first five games here,
:48:55. > :49:01.I got smashed on the field. I could not cope with the speed of the game.
:49:02. > :49:14.In Brazil, you get the ball and sometimes you have space. I was
:49:15. > :49:23.always shouting. In Brazil, it is very hot. You don't have the same
:49:24. > :49:27.tempo on the field. I have space. Basically, I was just playing on the
:49:28. > :49:31.side until Arsene came to me and said, come on, I want you to get the
:49:32. > :49:38.ball and go straight forward. OK, fine. But the first five games were
:49:39. > :49:44.hard. Go over there, you lot, and continue your conversation. All
:49:45. > :49:48.right, I will go away! I am being pushed around by Ruud Gullit! I am
:49:49. > :49:52.not being rude, we need to hear from the Chelsea manager Antonio Conte.
:49:53. > :50:05.He's going for double bubble this season. He has been talking to Gabby
:50:06. > :50:17.Logan. Sorry, fellas! 13 consecutive wins... Chelsea are
:50:18. > :50:26.into the final... Chelsea win it again. All higher Antonio Conte. --
:50:27. > :50:29.all hail Antonio Conte. Antonio, congratulations on winning the
:50:30. > :50:32.Premier League in your first season here. It is an incredible
:50:33. > :50:37.achievement, record number of wins and now an FA Cup final. Have you
:50:38. > :50:41.had a chance to celebrate yet. Yeah. For us, it was important to
:50:42. > :50:44.celebrate winning the league, because it was a great achievement.
:50:45. > :50:51.But at the same time, it's important to find the right concentration
:50:52. > :50:58.because for us, it's important to reach this important target. My
:50:59. > :51:05.players are ready. They are working very well. I am seeing the right
:51:06. > :51:09.concentration. They can fight and play this game against Arsenal. You
:51:10. > :51:13.come in against a manager who knows this competition very well. He is a
:51:14. > :51:21.joint record holder of six FA Cup wins, Arsene Wenger. Does that put
:51:22. > :51:27.you slightly on the back foot? Force, it is important to have the
:51:28. > :51:35.same anger. For sure, Arsenal have had the opportunity to win this
:51:36. > :51:38.important trophy in a season when they missed qualifications of the
:51:39. > :51:44.Champions League. And for this reason, we have to pay great
:51:45. > :51:48.attention because they will arrive with anger and concentration. Are
:51:49. > :51:57.you making yourself be underdogs, then? You can't be, surely. We won
:51:58. > :52:00.the season, were we started the season as underdogs. Don't forget in
:52:01. > :52:11.the first game against Arsenal, we lost 3-0. For sure, we are a strong
:52:12. > :52:14.team. But Arsenal is the same. They have the possibility to save the
:52:15. > :52:25.season with a great win in the FA Cup. For me, it would be great in my
:52:26. > :52:29.first season. Carlo Ancelotti did that in his first season in 2009,
:52:30. > :52:40.but it didn't go so well the following season. Honestly, I prefer
:52:41. > :52:44.to take the risk to win the FA Cup and then have this type of risk.
:52:45. > :52:49.What was your knowledge of the FA Cup growing up? Did you know about
:52:50. > :52:58.it when you were a boy in Italy? Did you ever see matches? Only on TV. I
:52:59. > :53:12.watched a lot of games. These days, I watch the previous games when
:53:13. > :53:26.Chelsea won the FA Cup. They won against Middlesbrough. So it was the
:53:27. > :53:35.Italian angle you were looking at. I think this league is an interesting
:53:36. > :53:41.league, maybe the best in the world. This will be John Terry's final
:53:42. > :53:46.final. How important has he been somebody you can go to? He is so
:53:47. > :53:55.entrenched here in Chelsea. John is a legend for Chelsea, for sure. It
:53:56. > :54:00.won't be easy for him to think there is only one game to go now. He is a
:54:01. > :54:03.great man. I was very lucky to be Chelsea's manager and who have the
:54:04. > :54:09.opportunity to work with him and to know him very well. This season, he
:54:10. > :54:18.has helped me a lot, on and off the pitch. For this reason, I tell him
:54:19. > :54:24.always big thanks. It is a dream to see him lift the FA Cup. One final
:54:25. > :54:27.word on Arsene Wenger. He has been at Arsenal for 20 years. Can you
:54:28. > :54:31.imagine being at a Premier League club for that long, with all the
:54:32. > :54:41.pressures and all the challenges that are thrown at you? I think it's
:54:42. > :54:54.wonderful to stay for so long time in one team. Arsene Wenger did a
:54:55. > :54:57.fantastic job for Arsenal. But I started this season and I hope to
:54:58. > :55:03.stay for many years in this country, because the atmosphere that you find
:55:04. > :55:11.here is incredible. I am ready for this challenge. It won't be easy,
:55:12. > :55:15.but I am ready. He has had a great season, Antonio
:55:16. > :55:20.Conte. There are lots of stories in the papers that he is going to sign
:55:21. > :55:31.a deal to keep him at Chelsea until 2021, nine 5p. Only? You think he is
:55:32. > :55:37.worth more? -- ?9 million. Why not? There were talks in Italy that Inter
:55:38. > :55:42.wanted him. I think his wife and kids also coming to London. London
:55:43. > :55:48.is a great place to live. I think he also sees the future in Chelsea full
:55:49. > :55:52.stops are hopefully, he would do the same in the Champions League. How
:55:53. > :55:55.much of their success this season has been done to him? It was a
:55:56. > :56:00.strong dressing room he came into. He started to boss the team and he
:56:01. > :56:04.has been magnificent. Why wouldn't he want to stay? The challenge is
:56:05. > :56:07.here. All the top managers are now here in this Premier League.
:56:08. > :56:13.Guardiola is already buying players. He will have one eye on that as
:56:14. > :56:17.well. He is a serial winner of trophies Dan. We know you two know
:56:18. > :56:24.what you're talking about. We have a few hours before kick-off. Who is
:56:25. > :56:35.going to win? Chelsea, 2-1. Come on, Arsene! Perfect BBC balance. You
:56:36. > :56:43.think Chelsea might make it, Martin? Not sneaking. How can Arsenal do it?
:56:44. > :56:51.If it doesn't happen, I would also be happy for Arsenal, because I like
:56:52. > :56:55.them. Did and Wigan beat Man City and do the impossible? Fellas,
:56:56. > :57:01.though somebody behind us so we have to say goodbye to this camera. Give
:57:02. > :57:06.us a cheesy smile. Thank you for watching. Build up to all the FA Cup
:57:07. > :57:09.final from 4.15. We have programmes across the afternoon for you as
:57:10. > :57:14.well. And here is a taste for you. The 1990 FA Cup final teams, how
:57:15. > :57:17.many can you get? We have rightly taking on Ellis James the BBC
:57:18. > :57:20.Three's job programme. See you later. We leave you with a slightly
:57:21. > :57:34.less controversial Walkers Wave. Goodbye. 1990, Crystal Palace three,
:57:35. > :57:47.Chelsea three. Jim Leighton. John Pemberton. Mike Phelan. Mike Phelan?
:57:48. > :57:55.Gary O'Reilly. Lee Martin? Andy Thorn. You're just naming your
:57:56. > :58:05.mates. Andy Gray. Richard Shaw. Danny Wallace. Mark Wright. Mark
:58:06. > :58:18.Hughes. Neil Webb. Paul Ince. Correct. Bryan Robson. Let me see...
:58:19. > :58:27.Phil Barber. Correct. Was Phil Barber? Whispering Phil Barber.
:58:28. > :58:35.Legend for Palace. Who was he? Steve Bruce. Gary Pallister. Thanks, Gary.
:58:36. > :58:46.You made me. Alan Pardew. Geoff Thomas. Correct. Come on. This is
:58:47. > :58:54.the face of someone who has got a name ready. Can you take this long?
:58:55. > :59:01.Neil Webb. You can't do that! There is one Man United player left. I
:59:02. > :59:11.think I know the guy. Have I said Bryan Robson? Yes. That should be
:59:12. > :59:18.it. Um... Brian McClair. Oh, you did it! Unbelievable.
:59:19. > :59:20.# I'll come get my things but I can't let go