Episode 11

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:00:06. > :00:15.Nail biting, edge of your seats, squeaky-bum time - say it how you

:00:16. > :00:24.

:00:24. > :00:27.like, one thing's for sure, it's On the programme this evening: As

:00:27. > :00:35.the business end of the season approaches, what price a promotion

:00:35. > :00:39.hat-trick for the lads from the Lamex?

:00:39. > :00:42.There is a tremendous amount of chemistry and cameraderie. It has

:00:42. > :00:45.been wonderful to work with them. The fight to fill our stadiums -

:00:45. > :00:54.how our clubs are doing their best to attract more supporters into

:00:54. > :00:56.their grounds. It is the kids bringing mum and dad's to the

:00:56. > :01:06.football here! It is a Taylor-made victory for

:01:06. > :01:09.

:01:09. > :01:15.Posh, but is Peterborough's hotshot Hello, good evening. Delighted to

:01:15. > :01:24.welcome Perry Groves. Good evening. One looking for to not saying very

:01:24. > :01:29.much! A are other guest is Mr Barry Fry! You didn't get the suntan in

:01:29. > :01:34.this country, did you? A I did, cutting the grass at home in

:01:34. > :01:40.Peterborough. Soap, was your last won the one that kept you in the

:01:40. > :01:47.championship? I think so. We did well in March. We keep Blackpool,

:01:47. > :01:57.we beat Reading, then we beat Leicester, who are big guns. Three

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:02:05. > :02:14.Taylor is on fire, he is unbelievable. A if you keep scoring

:02:14. > :02:24.goals like he did, his price will go up! That was unlucky by George

:02:24. > :02:24.

:02:24. > :02:34.Borg - George Boyd. The really wanted Tyrone and Taylor to form a

:02:34. > :02:40.

:02:40. > :02:46.partnership. Sinclair did really well there. All the players have

:02:46. > :02:55.been unbelievable for us. This is the goal itself. He just goes by

:02:55. > :03:02.people, it is a great shot. Am glad he scored. I did put �5 million on

:03:02. > :03:08.him, now a I have been down for 6 million! If East keeps - if he

:03:08. > :03:15.keeps scoring like that will be worth �10 million! Grant McCann,

:03:15. > :03:19.your skipper took the penalty. Grant had eight goals at the middle

:03:19. > :03:25.of November, then he had time out injured. He said himself that he

:03:25. > :03:34.changed his mind in the run-up. have all played and it is fearful,

:03:34. > :03:40.isn't it? Poll is unbelievable. What about the glad you have been

:03:40. > :03:49.at centre have? He has been magnificent every game. 21 but has

:03:49. > :03:59.a hundred and 50 appearances for Macclesfield. There has been plenty

:03:59. > :04:05.

:04:05. > :04:09.of talk about Paul Taylor. Here is is a very talented player. Darren

:04:09. > :04:13.Ferguson took a chance on him and he has repaid that by doing

:04:13. > :04:20.brilliantly. He wants to listen, or wants to learn and he has improved

:04:20. > :04:30.no end. You have made him an offer? We gave him a four-year offer that

:04:30. > :04:36.he wants to go to the Premier - the Premiership, and good luck to him.

:04:36. > :04:44.Anyone else out of contract? George Boyd. He has been a marvellous

:04:44. > :04:53.servant. Played 260 games, scored 60 goals. He won't talk about a new

:04:53. > :04:59.contract. A quick word about Ryan Dannatt. Brilliant! I have got my

:04:59. > :05:07.Norwich gear on. I believe he was man of the match. Norwich have done

:05:07. > :05:15.great. I sold them Adam Durie, Russell Martin, Leon McKenzie.

:05:15. > :05:22.They're all good lads and they all speak highly of marriage. Great

:05:22. > :05:28.result that London Road. At Portman Road was a terrific occasion. The

:05:28. > :05:38.1961 and 62 team were paraded around did ground. You probably

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:05:40. > :05:47.remember that seemed. I do. I was a substitute for Manchester United.

:05:47. > :05:52.Ipswich beat Manchester United that day. The this was this weekend.

:05:52. > :05:59.Ipswich prospects season probably turned around at Barnsley. Ipswich

:05:59. > :06:07.have got a little bit of confidence now. They are playing with a bit

:06:07. > :06:12.more for me. I think Marcus Evans has done brilliantly there. He has

:06:12. > :06:17.backed the manager and has been proven to be right. He is a good

:06:17. > :06:25.manager. It was a disastrous start to the season, but they will be a

:06:25. > :06:35.great site next year, no doubt. put Darren Murphy up front. He

:06:35. > :06:39.

:06:39. > :06:44.gives them a bit of strength up front. They lost Alex McCarthy.

:06:44. > :06:51.Their finishing wasn't great, then you start to get a bit edgy, then

:06:51. > :06:57.you end up going deeper, sitting back. There is the bottom of the

:06:57. > :07:03.table. You are pretty safe, Peterborough? Yes, I think we are

:07:03. > :07:07.safe. He will still want to win in the remaining games. If we finish

:07:07. > :07:16.4th from bottom and retain her championship position, then that is

:07:16. > :07:20.another miracle. Sir, job done! A busy Easter as well. Coventry is in

:07:20. > :07:29.form. They did well to get out at the bottom three, so it will be a

:07:29. > :07:32.difficult game. Yesterday beats, then home to Nottingham Forest.

:07:32. > :07:35.Ipswich and Posh good bets for another season in the Championship,

:07:35. > :07:37.but who will join them? The bookies currently rate MK Dons 3:1 to win

:07:37. > :07:40.promotion from League One. Colchester are outsiders at 250:1,

:07:40. > :07:50.but at 14:1, what price another promotion party for Stevenage?

:07:50. > :07:56.

:07:56. > :08:01.Let's not beat about the bush, the Lamex Stadium isn't the most

:08:01. > :08:05.glamourous sporting venue in the land. Keeping up with remarkable

:08:05. > :08:10.success on the pitch is easier said than done for a club but was

:08:11. > :08:15.playing non-League football just two years ago. This is my first

:08:15. > :08:19.visit to the Lamex. Just about everybody who comes here these days

:08:19. > :08:23.is coming for the first time such has been the extraordinary rise of

:08:23. > :08:29.Stevenage. A third successive promotion isn't out of the

:08:29. > :08:33.question! What has happened at Stevenage is the stuff of fairy-

:08:33. > :08:38.tales. Instant promotion from League 2 last year on the back of

:08:38. > :08:42.their elevation to the Football League. Throw in an FA Cup victory

:08:42. > :08:49.over Newcastle last year and it is fair to say that the manager was

:08:49. > :08:55.going to be a tough act to follow. Enter Gary Smith. He was relatively

:08:55. > :09:00.unknown. The big disadvantage is that the side is doing well, was

:09:00. > :09:04.doing well. A lot of people were looking to see if I was going to

:09:04. > :09:10.change things and if I was going to impact the result. Not much needed

:09:10. > :09:15.to be changed. Everyone said the Stevenage way for the last three

:09:15. > :09:21.years was with Graham, but the people come to what just that will

:09:21. > :09:25.see that his Simek. We like to play football in the right areas. The

:09:25. > :09:31.new manager is carrying that on and is encouraging us to get the ball

:09:31. > :09:35.down a lot more. It has been extremely exciting. This side are

:09:35. > :09:40.wonderful group of players, great character and spirit. You can tell

:09:40. > :09:44.the way they play and the results that we have had there is a

:09:44. > :09:49.tremendous amount of chemistry and camaraderie in the group. It has

:09:49. > :09:54.been wonderful to work with them. And manager normally comes a month

:09:54. > :09:59.things aren't going well, and this has almost been the opposite. It

:09:59. > :10:07.was a shock when Graham left. The manager has come in and it couldn't

:10:07. > :10:12.have been an easy decision, because we were already right up there.

:10:12. > :10:22.Beragh have been undefeated in the lead, and sitting just outside of

:10:22. > :10:56.

:10:56. > :10:59.just inside the post. There didn't seem to be anything on, but Wycombe

:11:00. > :11:09.have just stood still for a moment and it curled inside the right-hand

:11:10. > :11:19.

:11:19. > :11:24.crossbar and then over the top. Here comes Eastman. Penalty! No

:11:24. > :11:32.question at all. The pressure came from behind us and the referee

:11:32. > :11:42.points to the spot. This is a big moment in this season for Wycombe.

:11:42. > :11:42.

:11:42. > :11:48.He scores! I guess that is going to feel more like a defeat them a draw.

:11:48. > :11:54.Absolutely. I think it it's probably the most dejected we have

:11:54. > :11:59.been after a game, even though we still remain unbeaten, the story

:11:59. > :12:06.today was missed opportunities, some good football. I thought our

:12:06. > :12:09.reward was the goal. I thought it was going to see us through to her

:12:09. > :12:19.first victory in some time and make a big difference to the league

:12:19. > :12:23.

:12:23. > :12:29.They have just bumbled. They were in a great position, but Phil

:12:29. > :12:36.Wallace runs that club great. It is a miracle were they are. They are

:12:36. > :12:44.not out of it yet, but they have stumbled. I think it is eight out

:12:44. > :12:50.of the last nine draws. They are probably at 20 goal as seasoned

:12:50. > :12:54.striker away from the play-offs. think if Stevenage can call up they

:12:54. > :13:02.will find it hard to hold on to their players. One they have done

:13:02. > :13:09.is kept most of that squad played in did not leak. They have is not

:13:09. > :13:19.quite all the fitted tree had from Stevenage. Matt Holland as one of

:13:19. > :13:24.

:13:24. > :13:28.my favourites players. Love you How are they going to fill her at

:13:28. > :13:31.ground with more fans? And he is at it yet again - the big man is

:13:31. > :13:35.blazing a trail and hitting the net as the Cobblers continued to climb

:13:35. > :13:40.out of trouble. Back to the top of League One, and

:13:40. > :13:43.the MK Dons have stumbled a little. Yes, they will be disappointed, I

:13:43. > :13:47.don't know if it is the pressure it when they have to perform on the

:13:47. > :13:51.day, and getting beat by Brentford at the weekend, they would not be

:13:51. > :13:55.very happy. They got beat by Carlisle in

:13:55. > :13:59.midweek as well, sort two home defeats.

:13:59. > :14:04.They are missing four key players, though. They have injuries and I am

:14:04. > :14:08.not sure if they have strength in depth. But they have done brilliant

:14:08. > :14:18.of the field, but love if they would gawp.

:14:18. > :14:18.

:14:18. > :14:22.The mentioned the injury list, can be carried that?

:14:22. > :14:27.You cannot deal with that. It is all about the play-offs, now,

:14:27. > :14:30.isn't it? I absolutely, it is all about who

:14:30. > :14:37.they will play in the semi-finals of the play-off? There fighting

:14:37. > :14:44.of the play-off? There fighting quality has shown.

:14:44. > :14:51.I think car all will be very confident and the play-offs -- Carl

:14:51. > :14:55.will be very confident. They were a bit unlucky last year.

:14:55. > :14:58.Let's hope they have a bit of luck on their side of this year.

:14:58. > :15:04.He will look to try and get everyone fit for the play-offs,

:15:04. > :15:11.what he? James Devenay was fit for the weekend, the right back from

:15:11. > :15:14.Newcastle. He yes, I think that is from earlier in the season, Karl

:15:14. > :15:18.Robinson criticised how they were playing.

:15:18. > :15:23.By think he said about them being like the old Wimbledon, and I think

:15:23. > :15:29.that was the reason why that went on. They have to pick up, don't

:15:29. > :15:32.they? They need to pick it up. The S, to be fair they have been

:15:32. > :15:38.quite consistent, that is their first back-to-back defeat all

:15:38. > :15:45.season. -- yes, to be fair. The end they go to Preston, Preston

:15:45. > :15:50.is having a bad time at the minute. Week talked about Stevenage and the

:15:50. > :15:54.draws they have, Colchester, it is much the same for them.

:15:54. > :16:01.He is, they are fighting for their lives. It is a great ball from

:16:01. > :16:03.Michael Rose, then it goes to Karl Duguid. Exeter are scrapping, but

:16:03. > :16:08.Colchester have been really professional. Although they

:16:09. > :16:12.probably don't have the chance to make the play-offs they have stayed

:16:12. > :16:16.nice and compact. My eagle rose hit the post, as well.

:16:16. > :16:21.In the week they got beat at Walsall. That was their first

:16:21. > :16:26.defeat in 10. The skipper got there it -- his

:16:26. > :16:35.thirty-second to call for Colchester.

:16:36. > :16:40.Do you know who he called to celebrate? And a certain Perry

:16:40. > :16:45.Groves. How is he claiming that, Jamie

:16:45. > :16:55.children? That is an own goal, but if he gets awarded it, that is a

:16:55. > :16:56.

:16:56. > :16:59.strike. - my act Jamie Kearton. Stevenage are just outside, five

:16:59. > :17:07.points behind Carlisle, it will be difficult to stick into the play-

:17:07. > :17:11.offs, or impossible, and as Elliot Ward, probably -- as Elliot Ward

:17:11. > :17:17.said, probably out of that, now. These are the fixtures over the

:17:17. > :17:22.weekend, Colchester against Hartlepool, Saturday the MK Dons

:17:22. > :17:30.travel to Preston, and on Monday Colchester travel to bury come a

:17:30. > :17:40.long trip on Easter Monday. Stevenage have President. That will

:17:40. > :17:40.

:17:40. > :17:45.be a cracker, wanted? You will get a good reception. As Barry said,

:17:45. > :17:48.they have to keep that momentum they have to keep that momentum

:17:48. > :17:51.going. Even before it be this season has ended fans are looking

:17:51. > :17:55.forward to the next. They are expensive lucky -- luxury

:17:55. > :17:58.for some. It is that time of year again when

:17:58. > :18:02.football fans are being asked to dig deep, no matter how good, bad

:18:02. > :18:12.or indifferent your team played last season. It is time to splash

:18:12. > :18:23.

:18:23. > :18:28.Football clubs have to be smarter than the where and the past.

:18:28. > :18:34.I am very aware that to do all my crowd I need to be in a higher

:18:34. > :18:38.division. I am still in the same division will be started.

:18:38. > :18:44.Ipswich and MK Dons have plenty of space to fill. Next season the

:18:44. > :18:47.Upper stadium will be full of seats, increasing the capacity to 32,000.

:18:47. > :18:53.The German knows of the club remains in League One the stadium

:18:53. > :18:55.will operate at 25 % capacity. There is no doubt that having a

:18:55. > :19:03.bigger stadium will make our challenge even harder, but when I

:19:03. > :19:07.got into this and made a promise to deliver 30,000 -- a 30,000 all-

:19:07. > :19:12.seater and Stadium in Milton Keynes. That will also enable the football

:19:12. > :19:19.club to have no limits to their success they can achieve. I know

:19:19. > :19:24.that our legacy is important, and it is in the infrastructure of the

:19:24. > :19:29.business. The team are working on a new

:19:29. > :19:34.season ticket applications. The main headline - a big reduction of

:19:34. > :19:36.more younger fans than any other team in the country we do, and that

:19:36. > :19:39.gives us a challenge for evening games.

:19:39. > :19:44.Children are at school the following day and we see

:19:44. > :19:48.attendances drop in the evenings. But for long-term growth of this

:19:48. > :19:52.football club it is vital we encourage youngsters could -- also

:19:52. > :19:56.has to come, because unlike other football clubs where parents bring

:19:56. > :20:01.the children, here it is the other way round.

:20:01. > :20:06.A Ipswich have achieved a long, slow, and ultimately expensive

:20:06. > :20:09.decline in attendances. In eight years they have lost 6,000 fans.

:20:09. > :20:13.Winning them back will not be easy, particularly when everyone has less

:20:14. > :20:18.money to spend. Our prices typically across

:20:18. > :20:21.football to hide? The answer is probably yes, and

:20:21. > :20:28.that is why we have froze and season-ticket prices for another

:20:28. > :20:33.year and we are looking carefully at prices for next season. --

:20:33. > :20:39.throws in season-ticket prices. The biggest average crowd them the

:20:39. > :20:43.championship is up to nearly 9,000, third at -- 37 % up on last year in

:20:43. > :20:50.League One. MK Dons are down slightly on last season's average

:20:50. > :20:56.by around 4%. Their rivals for promotion in League One, Stevenage,

:20:56. > :21:02.are selling more tickets, up 19 %. This does follow promotion, though.

:21:02. > :21:10.Colchester have lost fans since last season, down 12 %, while

:21:10. > :21:18.despite contrasting seasons two teams are showing increases,

:21:18. > :21:22.Northampton up 9% and Southend of The challenge is to keep season-

:21:22. > :21:25.ticket holders happy. It is still far too much for the

:21:25. > :21:30.championship, and they do not look after a season tickets. They are

:21:31. > :21:34.always doing promotions for people who do not come that regularly.

:21:34. > :21:39.They just used as an abuse us, I think.

:21:39. > :21:45.With fans who do not come regularly, you can get a �10 ticket now and

:21:45. > :21:49.again, but we don't get a refund when there is a �10 game on,

:21:49. > :21:52.perhaps we should get refunds. is a dilemma you always have,

:21:52. > :21:56.because you want to protect the season-ticket holder to ensure you

:21:56. > :22:03.are not undermining them by constantly having promotions on

:22:03. > :22:08.match-day tickets, but that allows wavering season-ticket holders.

:22:08. > :22:14.They think, I could get value for money by picking and choosing which

:22:14. > :22:16.aims to go to. For Football League rules state you

:22:16. > :22:20.can only run four de good promotions per season involving

:22:20. > :22:24.home fans. But even if you could offer of a discount, the maths

:22:24. > :22:28.would not add up. A if it was as simple as reducing

:22:28. > :22:38.the price by 50 % to double the gates, everyone would be doing that.

:22:38. > :22:42.It is not that simple. If you decrease prices by a certain level,

:22:42. > :22:47.truthfully it makes little difference. You have to make quite

:22:47. > :22:51.a large reductions in ticket prices to attract large numbers of people.

:22:51. > :22:55.Many of our clubs have a frozen ticket prices next season, a

:22:55. > :23:03.including Ipswich. All are having to adapt to a drop in a way support

:23:03. > :23:10.with petrol prices and train fares too much for many. -- away support.

:23:10. > :23:15.For some, emotional roller-coaster as are well worth the entrance fee.

:23:15. > :23:19.How difficult has had been at Peterborough for you, Barry?

:23:19. > :23:23.When I owned a club I came out with a scheme that if you were a season-

:23:23. > :23:27.ticket holder and hadn't under 10 child or grandchild they would get

:23:27. > :23:32.a free season-ticket. That was to try and get the next generation of

:23:32. > :23:38.supporters. I am pleased to say the present chairman carried that over.

:23:38. > :23:42.We're 37 % up on our dates, but that is mostly away fans. Next year

:23:42. > :23:48.that ended his coming down. We had West Ham the other day, 6,000 away

:23:48. > :23:53.fans. We are going to lose 1.5 million. Plus the fact that

:23:53. > :23:58.television money is going down by 26 %, that is another �800,000 we

:23:58. > :24:03.will lose. A lot of clubs will lose. Players out of contract and agents

:24:03. > :24:07.will get a rude awakening, because they will have to come to the real

:24:07. > :24:12.world this year. Absolutely. Into League Two, at what a difference a

:24:12. > :24:20.month makes. Four wins and two draws and one defeat after March,

:24:20. > :24:23.it which is looking much brighter. it which is looking much brighter.

:24:24. > :24:29.Yes, we said of the good score some goals they could get out of trouble,

:24:29. > :24:34.that is what has happened. The was more about the goalkeeper,

:24:34. > :24:39.this game, Neal Kitson's first game in 26 games.

:24:39. > :24:43.He may have made himself a hero. They showed good fighting spirit,

:24:43. > :24:49.and that is what Aidy Boothroyd would have been looking for.

:24:49. > :24:54.A decent save from Jacobs there. He Aidy Boothroyd has done a good

:24:54. > :24:57.job, hasn't he? A year is, I am pleased for the German, a good

:24:57. > :25:02.double win for them. With Andy King of there is never a

:25:02. > :25:07.dull moment! Still plenty of work to do, though.

:25:07. > :25:11.I cannot see the teams in the bottom two putting a run of three

:25:11. > :25:18.or four wins together because they do not have that consistency.

:25:18. > :25:26.It would be good to see Northampton winning more games, as well.

:25:26. > :25:30.Do and Adebayor Akinfenwa? Are he is a presence.

:25:30. > :25:36.-- and Adebayor account at -- Adebayor Akinfenwa?

:25:36. > :25:41.He is a presence. He is out of contract, I think, in

:25:41. > :25:45.the summer. I have had a word with a couple of

:25:45. > :25:50.people about him. The a great save by the goalkeeper.

:25:50. > :25:50.Yes, he came for what are one yard and he understood the angle from

:25:50. > :25:53.and he understood the angle from the penalty.

:25:53. > :25:55.He made himself he rose straight away.

:25:55. > :25:59.away. Let's look at the bottom of the

:25:59. > :26:04.table, look how much rosier it looks now. There are six points

:26:04. > :26:08.clear of Macclesfield, who are 23rd. I think Peter's brother will

:26:08. > :26:12.probably stay in the division now, don't you?

:26:12. > :26:17.-- I think Peterborough. Top-of-the-table, Southend, is

:26:17. > :26:21.there any chance of them? He I don't think automatic

:26:21. > :26:25.promotion, they will consider themselves lucky. They had a bad

:26:25. > :26:30.run at the wrong time, and a win that what was -- at the win was

:26:31. > :26:39.what they needed on Saturday night. They lost to Dickinson, their

:26:39. > :26:42.leading goalscorer. To get Freddy Eastwood, he will

:26:42. > :26:50.excite the crowd, he has done it all before. That could be the

:26:50. > :26:55.difference of going up automatically or not.

:26:55. > :27:01.Barton is not a bad goalkeeper, actually, but he had a bad night. -

:27:01. > :27:06.- Button is not a bad goalkeeper. You see another one that goes

:27:06. > :27:09.underneath him. They needed a win to get that confidence back again.

:27:09. > :27:13.They have six games ahead, they will probably have to win the

:27:13. > :27:17.majority. But with Freddy Eastwood, he

:27:17. > :27:21.generates enthusiasm and excitement with the crowd. If they get behind

:27:21. > :27:30.him I can see them winning four of five of them.

:27:30. > :27:34.Yes, you have Bilel Mohsni, Ryan Hall, and you see he is a poacher.

:27:34. > :27:39.There they are, fifth position, two point behind Crawley at Shrewsbury

:27:39. > :27:41.who both have a game in hand. They will probably have to win five

:27:41. > :27:46.out of six to get to automatic promotion.

:27:46. > :27:49.Here are some of the fixtures over Easter in League Two.

:27:49. > :27:55.Southend travel to Bradford, Northampton go to Oxford, they will

:27:55. > :27:58.be hoping for three points. One Monday Southend and at Wimbledon

:27:58. > :28:03.and Northampton travel to Swindon, a tricky one.

:28:03. > :28:10.Yes, it is, but Aidy Boothroyd will love that. He wants to go there and

:28:10. > :28:15.upset them, doesn't he? A quick line to posh.

:28:15. > :28:22.Yes, Posh is safe! For are you safe?

:28:22. > :28:26.Yes, it has been an unbelievable set of results. We have to lose all

:28:26. > :28:32.ours, I can see that happen. I don't either.