Episode 3

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0:00:03 > 0:00:13Soap to EPPP or not to EPPP, that is the question. And tonight we are

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0:00:18 > 0:00:23Football's great academic revolution in coming soon to a club

0:00:23 > 0:00:27near you but his is a force for good or bad? There will be clubs in

0:00:27 > 0:00:32the lower leagues thinking it is not worth it because even if we do

0:00:32 > 0:00:36develop a young player, he can be stolen for peanuts. And back on the

0:00:36 > 0:00:41right road. Colt just that answer their critics as Bobby urges the

0:00:41 > 0:00:46fans to back the manager. He is the right man in the right place at

0:00:46 > 0:00:52this moment in time. And he is the right man for the MK

0:00:52 > 0:00:57Dons, Smith's signs in on the eve of transfer deadline day.

0:00:57 > 0:01:01Good evening. Great to have the with this. Perry is here as usual

0:01:01 > 0:01:05alongside Will Buckley. How are we doing? I would like to compliment

0:01:05 > 0:01:12you on your choice of show it. You are looking very nice. We should

0:01:12 > 0:01:15have phoned each other. I think you did. Plenty to talk about tonight

0:01:15 > 0:01:23including the latest transfer news and gossip. More of your comments

0:01:23 > 0:01:28as well. If you can have your say as a always on the Twitter. But

0:01:28 > 0:01:33first, the biggest shake-up in Muse football for years, the EPPP, being

0:01:33 > 0:01:38introduced next year, a controversial reform of the rules

0:01:38 > 0:01:48and regulations. But what exactly is the EPPP, and how will this

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0:01:50 > 0:01:53At the end of last year, English football agreed on a plan to

0:01:53 > 0:02:01revolutionise cues development, with the best players receiving the

0:02:01 > 0:02:05best break chink -- coaching. Once more, cash-strapped football league

0:02:05 > 0:02:12clubs would spend more money to -- receive more money to spend on

0:02:12 > 0:02:17their academies. It is dictated by the Premier League. The Premier

0:02:17 > 0:02:21League would like to be the FA as well. A system set up to allow the

0:02:21 > 0:02:27big clubs to help themselves to the very best youngsters at not than

0:02:27 > 0:02:32transfer fees. What I want to make sure is that all the clubs got the

0:02:32 > 0:02:37upper view -- opportunity to develop those players. It is called

0:02:37 > 0:02:43the EPPP and it is coming to a club near you. I as many as you can get

0:02:43 > 0:02:51in! To build a successful club, a thriving Muse set up his key. It

0:02:51 > 0:02:54needs investment. The late for all of this is around �3.5 million.

0:02:54 > 0:03:00vision turning into reality for Colchester chairman Robbie Cowling.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03He has taken the club to new ground and it will not be long before they

0:03:03 > 0:03:09moved into this new training facility. How many pitches will we

0:03:09 > 0:03:13see here? Five. One that is shed for community use. Around the

0:03:13 > 0:03:18building come on the far side, there is a big gymnasium as well.

0:03:18 > 0:03:25It will help cultures to make the most of the new Elite Player

0:03:25 > 0:03:28Performance Plan. We were moving that way as well as a club. So when

0:03:28 > 0:03:32the document came along. I have read the whole document and there

0:03:32 > 0:03:39was a lot of it I agree with and so we are embracing it and we are

0:03:39 > 0:03:44going forward. The EPPP revolves around a new four tier system for

0:03:44 > 0:03:47academies. Category 1 is expensive to run, likely to be Premier League

0:03:47 > 0:03:52clubs or wealthy Championship teams. They can sign players nationwide

0:03:52 > 0:03:56from the age of 12. Currently they have to live with in 90 minutes of

0:03:56 > 0:04:00the club. Category 2 he is for clubs they cannot afford the top

0:04:00 > 0:04:06tier but they must have an indoor facility. The 90 minute will kicks

0:04:06 > 0:04:12in. Category 3 it will only cost club has around �300,000. Category

0:04:12 > 0:04:16four is the cheapest. But only players over the age of 16 can sign.

0:04:16 > 0:04:21Would you like to sign? So what category will your team plump for?

0:04:21 > 0:04:29They have a few months to decide. Ipswich supporters one category one

0:04:29 > 0:04:33status. Why it should a club that has produced millions of pounds

0:04:33 > 0:04:36worth of talent opt for second best? Fans have started a petition

0:04:36 > 0:04:45which they hope will have 10,000 names on by tomorrow right-eyed's

0:04:45 > 0:04:49game with West Ham. Clubs might Norwich -- they can cherry-pick the

0:04:49 > 0:04:53players that we could have had. There are a number of Premier

0:04:53 > 0:04:57League teams who have already indicated that they will not be

0:04:57 > 0:05:00going for category one themselves. There are only a couple of clubs

0:05:00 > 0:05:03within the Championship that may aspire to that. We need to look at

0:05:03 > 0:05:09the additional significant costs that will have to be investigated -

0:05:09 > 0:05:13- invested to achieve category One status. It a sounds like you will

0:05:13 > 0:05:17not go for Category One. I did not say that title.

0:05:17 > 0:05:22No team wants to lose their best players, especially to their rivals,

0:05:22 > 0:05:28but if they do, they want to be compensated. This player was

0:05:28 > 0:05:33recently sold for a fee believed to be around �1 million. Under the

0:05:33 > 0:05:37EPPP they would only be guaranteed around one tenths of that. We all

0:05:37 > 0:05:41want our kids to have the best chances. The EPPP does address some

0:05:41 > 0:05:45of those coaching hours, the quality of people back will be

0:05:45 > 0:05:51around them. What is not quite so good is that they will for the not

0:05:51 > 0:05:55be looking at what will happen over a period of time. He is a very

0:05:55 > 0:06:02small package for compensation, to affect our investment in the U's.

0:06:02 > 0:06:05Is it to possible that some clubs could fault? It inevitably they

0:06:05 > 0:06:08will do. It has got to be clubs in the lower leagues that indeed is

0:06:08 > 0:06:14not worth it because it be if we do for develop a young player, he

0:06:14 > 0:06:19could be stolen at peanuts aged 14, 15, 16, prior to signing a contract

0:06:19 > 0:06:22and as a consequence they will probably just told. With a chairman

0:06:22 > 0:06:27and rightly worried about the compensation issue, the boys just

0:06:27 > 0:06:29one to be given as much time as possible with a ball at their feet.

0:06:29 > 0:06:36Colchester United are doing something slightly different and it

0:06:36 > 0:06:40is exactly what the EPPP ones. These boys go to a school and are

0:06:40 > 0:06:44also training here on the same side so there is more contact time, more

0:06:44 > 0:06:48chance to improve their skills and a better chance of succeeding.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51is just really to give the boy is more contact time. We are about

0:06:51 > 0:06:55giving boys more opportunities to progress, contact time that they

0:06:55 > 0:06:58want to get within the programme, training twice a day, sociable

0:06:58 > 0:07:03hours, rather than training late into the evening after a full day

0:07:03 > 0:07:06at school. We think that will give them a benefit. Like Colchester,

0:07:07 > 0:07:11Peterborough are developing a new training ground and are in

0:07:11 > 0:07:14partnership with a local school. They had to become a category to

0:07:14 > 0:07:17academy but the head of use is frustrated by a failure to

0:07:17 > 0:07:21communicate for the full details of the EPPP. There are some positive.

0:07:21 > 0:07:25We have had a look at the original draft document that we are planning

0:07:25 > 0:07:29towards. The only disappointment for us is that the back document

0:07:29 > 0:07:34has not been finalised. Finalist with all are the details given to

0:07:34 > 0:07:37the clubs. We would like a little bit more time to prepare for that.

0:07:37 > 0:07:40The Football League were powerless to prevent for the Premier League

0:07:40 > 0:07:45forcing through their new uniform approach to youth development. It

0:07:45 > 0:07:48does have a lot going for it. But it does have a few drawbacks was up

0:07:48 > 0:07:51for even some Premier League teams are not convinced. But keeping 92

0:07:52 > 0:07:57clubs happy is always going to be different. For the youngsters,

0:07:57 > 0:08:01though, it is different. Nothing has changed. If you want to be a

0:08:01 > 0:08:06professional player one day? You s, it is what I have dreamed about

0:08:06 > 0:08:14ever since I was a little boy. We have to work hard day-by-day to be

0:08:14 > 0:08:17We did as the Premier League for a comment but they declined, pointing

0:08:18 > 0:08:22out they have a shareholders' meeting next week at which the EPPP

0:08:22 > 0:08:25will be discussed. Derry, your initial thoughts? The only thing

0:08:26 > 0:08:29that is a bit about this plan it means that the Ellie clubs, clubs

0:08:29 > 0:08:32from the Premier League, can take younger players from the Football

0:08:32 > 0:08:36League clubs at virtually no compensation whatsoever for the

0:08:36 > 0:08:41smaller clubs, so that is the only thing I see that his elite. And you

0:08:41 > 0:08:46have seen a couple of things are in the Premier League website? Yes. At

0:08:46 > 0:08:49the bottom there, it says drink and prepare effectively for a career in

0:08:49 > 0:08:53the Barclays Premier League. Not about producing better quality of

0:08:53 > 0:09:03players for all football clubs. It is all about the Barclays Premier

0:09:03 > 0:09:06League. The second thing that comes out there is going on to pull a

0:09:06 > 0:09:11first-team shirt of the club he has grown up back. That is not going to

0:09:11 > 0:09:16happen. If Aston Villa see a boy's talent at 13 or 14, they can say,

0:09:16 > 0:09:20we want him. He will go to Aston Villa so you will not get local boy

0:09:20 > 0:09:24is putting on a local show it. the Young Boys will have a choice

0:09:24 > 0:09:29about where they go? They could play for their local team? Yes,

0:09:29 > 0:09:34except most of them do not want to if they are offered a chance at a

0:09:34 > 0:09:38Premiership club. To a large extent, I do agree with Perry. There is a

0:09:38 > 0:09:41danger with the whole system that the top four or six clubs will just

0:09:41 > 0:09:45sort of collect their whole swathe of players and there will be a

0:09:46 > 0:09:48whole load at 16 after them on the slag heap having been let go

0:09:48 > 0:09:56because they only want one or two after that. But there were one or

0:09:56 > 0:10:00two things from the film... Which I thought looked good. Small goals on

0:10:00 > 0:10:02small pitches. Too often you see young kids on a full-size pitch,

0:10:02 > 0:10:06not bring themselves playing and that cannot be good for their

0:10:06 > 0:10:11skills. And they often get into schools and the local environment

0:10:11 > 0:10:14and there will be getting a good all-round education. So why did 46

0:10:14 > 0:10:18of the 7-2 chairman vote for it? They were bullied. The Premier

0:10:19 > 0:10:22League said, if you do not bear this system in, we will withhold

0:10:22 > 0:10:26beat �5 million spending review for you academies. But that is not a

0:10:26 > 0:10:32lot of money. But clubs like Colchester and Accrington Stanley,

0:10:32 > 0:10:36they thrive on a �50, �60,000 that they have. The other thing that

0:10:36 > 0:10:39worries me is that I have looked at the whole mission statement and

0:10:39 > 0:10:43they are about improving the quality of the coaches and getting

0:10:43 > 0:10:46that the younger players will get. It is all there are well St we can

0:10:46 > 0:10:55go from an array of took four and- a-half players but if you have

0:10:55 > 0:10:59average cringes, you will produce average players. Kit will benefit

0:10:59 > 0:11:03the England national team. So they are thinking that by doing this

0:11:03 > 0:11:07they will have more home-grown players in the Premier League and

0:11:07 > 0:11:11get a top level. I imagine the intention behind it was a good one,

0:11:11 > 0:11:17fatal mortgages, more money for the coaches, had the better coaching at

0:11:17 > 0:11:22the end of it. Get them with him that school environment and get

0:11:22 > 0:11:25them built up and playing better football. Barcelona, it is the

0:11:25 > 0:11:29Spanish way. They can recruit players from all over Spain and it

0:11:29 > 0:11:32works for them. You s, it works for Barcelona. So are the Premier

0:11:32 > 0:11:36League clubs for only going to take English players from the Football

0:11:36 > 0:11:40League clubs? They will not, because Premier League clubs take

0:11:40 > 0:11:44players from all over the world. I just think they will stockpile

0:11:44 > 0:11:48young players. They will get them, play the numbers game, hope that

0:11:48 > 0:11:51the players will develop and when they get to 16, when it comes to

0:11:51 > 0:11:55taking them on, there will be a plethora of players who have been

0:11:55 > 0:12:01let go. So a gap between the Football League and Premier League

0:12:01 > 0:12:05is getting wider? It always will. But presumably some of those

0:12:05 > 0:12:10players, it said category four, if you can sign players over 16, they

0:12:10 > 0:12:15can get back to their local clubs if they are let go. Some big big

0:12:15 > 0:12:21clubs with bigger catchment areas, there could be a chance for them to

0:12:21 > 0:12:23get far more people into their academies and benefit from that.

0:12:23 > 0:12:33The Elite Player Performance Plan has certainly divided opinions and

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0:12:42 > 0:12:48It is probably the fault of the players. It is all still to come,

0:12:48 > 0:12:54but the transfer window closes in a little under 24 hours. MK Dons have

0:12:54 > 0:13:03led the way with a big-name signing, former England striker Alan Smith,

0:13:03 > 0:13:09who joined on loan until the end of the season. I know a few of the

0:13:09 > 0:13:15players to play for them. I have seen them play the RFU times. I

0:13:15 > 0:13:20impressed by the way they are set up. I know the manager's philosophy.

0:13:20 > 0:13:26This club has got a great future in front of it and if I can help them

0:13:26 > 0:13:33on the way and does some point become part of this club, that is

0:13:33 > 0:13:37why I am here. It is an ambitious signing, getting someone of that

0:13:37 > 0:13:44quality. It works for both partners because Alice met has a lot to

0:13:44 > 0:13:48prove in terms of fitness. They will get a player with a good

0:13:48 > 0:13:53attitude. And they are coming into a period of time where the next two

0:13:53 > 0:13:57weeks could define their season. They have Huddersfield and Charlton

0:13:57 > 0:14:02coming up and they need somebody comfortable handling the ball.

0:14:02 > 0:14:11sends out a message to the rest of the division. Certainly, it has

0:14:11 > 0:14:17been one of the biggest deals of the transfer window. Alan Smith is

0:14:17 > 0:14:22expected to come straight into the welcoming -- the reckoning for the

0:14:22 > 0:14:27match tomorrow against Sheffield Wednesday. That is a big test for

0:14:27 > 0:14:33them. And massive test. Sheffield Wednesday have been better away

0:14:33 > 0:14:39from home, winning five out of the last six games. They will want to

0:14:39 > 0:14:49bounce back from the defeat against Stevenage last week. Alan Smith

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0:14:50 > 0:14:54might help them do it. They will be looking for a reaction after being

0:14:55 > 0:15:03bullied at Stevenage. They will be looking to play then nice passing

0:15:03 > 0:15:08game. Last week we heard how Colchester manager of John Ward was

0:15:08 > 0:15:13under fire from supporters. A trip to inform Leyton Orient was likely

0:15:13 > 0:15:18to be a tough test. Leyton Orient is the shortest away

0:15:18 > 0:15:22trip of the season for Colchester United supporters. But it is the

0:15:22 > 0:15:30long term that the chairman is asking them to bear in mind when it

0:15:30 > 0:15:34comes to the manager, John Ward. is not just thinking about Saturday.

0:15:35 > 0:15:39Of course he wants to win every game that he plays. But he is also

0:15:39 > 0:15:45thinking of all the other things. No Saturday when we are at home he

0:15:45 > 0:15:49will go in in the morning I watched a youth team player. He takes a lot

0:15:50 > 0:15:55of interest in everything else that is happening at the club. He

0:15:55 > 0:16:00understands why the we do things. He is the right man in the right

0:16:00 > 0:16:04place for Colchester United at this time. They get paid to play

0:16:04 > 0:16:11football and if they do not turn up on the day, the manager cannot do

0:16:11 > 0:16:16any more. We do not want any more disruption. He is too defensive and

0:16:17 > 0:16:21is boring us to tears and obviously not motivating the team. I do not

0:16:21 > 0:16:25think you can blame the manager completely for the situation.

0:16:25 > 0:16:35Sometimes the team members do not give their all. I am still fully

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0:16:36 > 0:16:46behind the team, but not John Ward, I am afraid. Some 700 troubling

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0:17:05 > 0:17:15Lloyd James tested the goalkeeper no shortage of commitment. They got

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0:17:19 > 0:17:24their reward just before the half hour. The reverse angle showed that

0:17:25 > 0:17:33the ball went in from the defender, Terrell Forbes. But they all count.

0:17:33 > 0:17:43And the goal would prove decisive. Their own Gavin Massey, on loan

0:17:43 > 0:17:45

0:17:45 > 0:17:50from Watford, had a golden opportunity to double the lead. At

0:17:50 > 0:18:00the other end, a Leyton Orient corner created panic in the area

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0:18:08 > 0:18:12one more break from Colchester. James was denied by the goalkeeper.

0:18:12 > 0:18:20One goal was enough to see culture has to go above Leyton Orient in

0:18:20 > 0:18:30the table, much to the delight of the boss and the fans -- to see

0:18:30 > 0:18:33Colchester. That is a real response from everybody up the football club.

0:18:33 > 0:18:41They have let them know they are supporting the team and the team

0:18:41 > 0:18:47have let them know they are What a difference a week makes.

0:18:47 > 0:18:52John Ward deserves a lot of credit. His team played with energy and

0:18:52 > 0:18:55desire. He made some changes and the new players played with energy

0:18:55 > 0:19:00and enthusiasm which rubbed off on the other players. They called for

0:19:00 > 0:19:04commitment and that is what they got. That is why the fans were

0:19:04 > 0:19:14happy. If you see your team go out and put him 100% effort, that is

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0:19:36 > 0:19:40all you can ask for. This is what You would like to see some younger

0:19:40 > 0:19:43players coming up through the youth team and the Academy so that the

0:19:44 > 0:19:47fans get a bond with local players. They are not going to have a lot of

0:19:47 > 0:19:54money which is why they are building the training facility so

0:19:54 > 0:19:58that hope to they can provide better younger players. Stevenage

0:19:58 > 0:20:07are going great guns and what a win at the weekend in the FA Cup. And

0:20:07 > 0:20:17the draw as well. Yes, to get Tottenham at home. Col Chester had

0:20:17 > 0:20:18

0:20:18 > 0:20:24very well-spoken bands, they must Libya you! -- flick any age you.

0:20:24 > 0:20:28Gary Smith, the team manager, has had a great start. Tottenham at

0:20:28 > 0:20:34home, they may even have a chance. Newcastle went there and had a

0:20:34 > 0:20:44tough time in the FA Cup. A brilliant title Chris Day, who

0:20:44 > 0:20:45

0:20:45 > 0:20:51started his career at Tottenham. You do not want to change too much

0:20:51 > 0:20:57when they are going well. And I would have thought Mark Roberts,

0:20:57 > 0:21:01the caretaker-manager, will have a lot to say about the way the

0:21:01 > 0:21:07players train and perform. A decent performance for Northampton with

0:21:07 > 0:21:17plenty of chances but again, no points. I think Aidy Boothroyd said

0:21:17 > 0:21:23

0:21:23 > 0:21:30they had the better performers but performances into wins. One win in

0:21:30 > 0:21:3719 games is not good enough. This is not a bad side. Torquay are a

0:21:37 > 0:21:41good side and on a fine run of form. Aidy Boothroyd Sardar playing away

0:21:41 > 0:21:46might help his team and they had more winter away from home. There

0:21:46 > 0:21:50is less pressure but they have conceded and they have not had any

0:21:50 > 0:22:00clean sheet away from home. You have to get the basics right and

0:22:00 > 0:22:10that will breed confidence. They have signed Luke Gutteridge. He is

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0:22:11 > 0:22:21a decent forward. They were beaten from a set-piece put up think he

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0:22:24 > 0:22:31They had some good fixtures coming up. They need to win does to turn

0:22:31 > 0:22:38it around. They are only three points away from Dagenham, who they

0:22:38 > 0:22:44play in a couple of weeks. Do you fancy their chances to get out of

0:22:44 > 0:22:49trouble? They have to start winning soon. The next three games are

0:22:49 > 0:22:53against teams in the bottom 10 and to get out to that position you

0:22:53 > 0:22:58have to beat the teams around you. At the other end of the table,

0:22:58 > 0:23:03Southend, who were without a game at the weekend, were knocked off

0:23:03 > 0:23:09the top but camp move above Cheltenham tomorrow night. There

0:23:09 > 0:23:16will be full commentary on BBC Essex. Swindon at home is a tough

0:23:16 > 0:23:20fixture. Swindon had a tough cup- tie against Leicester on Saturday

0:23:20 > 0:23:28and Southend have not played for 10 days so their players will be

0:23:28 > 0:23:33rested. It will be a good game to watch. Into the championship and

0:23:33 > 0:23:37Peterborough are having a bit of a slide at the moment. Barry Fry was

0:23:37 > 0:23:47due to come in today but he is very busy on transfer activity, and he

0:23:47 > 0:24:02

0:24:02 > 0:24:08problems all afternoon. They link up very well. This was a brilliant

0:24:08 > 0:24:18save. On the corner, Peterborough need to have someone on the edge of

0:24:18 > 0:24:19

0:24:19 > 0:24:23the six yard box. It was a powerful header from Jason Pearce. Four

0:24:23 > 0:24:26straight defeats for Peterborough. They are making a better fist of

0:24:26 > 0:24:32life in the championship this year than they did two years ago but

0:24:32 > 0:24:36they could still be in trouble. They could. Once you start losing

0:24:36 > 0:24:42four in a row you do begin to wonder when the run will come to an

0:24:42 > 0:24:50end. They have to stop conceding goals at home. They have conceded

0:24:50 > 0:24:5825 which is more than any other team. I would imagine Barry Fry's

0:24:58 > 0:25:07fame Bobby red-top trying to get an experience centre half in. -- Barry

0:25:07 > 0:25:11We are expecting some signings in the next 24 hours and you think

0:25:11 > 0:25:18that that is where they need to improve. I think so. If you have

0:25:18 > 0:25:28lost four on the trot you need some fresh faces around. They are eight

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0:25:30 > 0:25:38or nine points in front of the There is no panic just yet. They

0:25:38 > 0:25:41need to stick to their principles. They need to establish themselves

0:25:41 > 0:25:46and then you can attract better- quality players because the players

0:25:46 > 0:25:51do not think you're going to keep going down every season. What about

0:25:51 > 0:26:01if which, just one place outside the relegation zone. A huge picture

0:26:01 > 0:26:07tomorrow night against West Ham. They are rumoured to be trying to

0:26:07 > 0:26:13do some transfer activity tomorrow, with some players from Portsmouth.

0:26:13 > 0:26:23Obviously, based players not having been paid today. Those players been

0:26:23 > 0:26:23

0:26:23 > 0:26:27the goalkeeper Henderson plus Nick Powell and Joel Ward. Tomorrow

0:26:27 > 0:26:34night, it is which are not at that buckling best, West Ham will

0:26:34 > 0:26:44overpower them because they are the best team away from home in the

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0:26:44 > 0:26:49championship. They will have a big physical presence tomorrow. They

0:26:49 > 0:26:55tick signed Ryan Stevenson this season. He is supposed to be above

0:26:55 > 0:27:03play in midfield. He has not played for six weeks because he went on

0:27:03 > 0:27:13strike because he did not get paid at Hearts. Paul tool seems to have

0:27:13 > 0:27:17had the dreaded vote of confidence quite a few times. Ipswich should

0:27:17 > 0:27:22not be where they are so they will be thinking about his future. But

0:27:22 > 0:27:27normally if you get in you meant in you getting in at a time when he is

0:27:27 > 0:27:32able to operate in the transfer window. You follow Norwich quite

0:27:32 > 0:27:37closely. You must be quite pleased with life at the moment. It is

0:27:37 > 0:27:42extraordinary what Paul Lambert has achieved. Maybe it is the opposite

0:27:42 > 0:27:49of what a lot of the teams in the region of feeling. Every time he

0:27:49 > 0:27:54changes the team, he improve said. He pressed players or plays a

0:27:54 > 0:28:01different -- he breasts players or plays a different system and it

0:28:01 > 0:28:11gets better. He has taken a lot of players from Division One and the

0:28:11 > 0:28:17championship and has made them better. A great win at the weekend.