:00:08. > :00:18.So, how or we possibly going to bring you a football programme with
:00:18. > :00:27.
:00:27. > :00:37.Life after football, golf scorer turned musician, Howard Liam
:00:37. > :00:47.bounced back from depression. not want to be here any more.
:00:47. > :00:50.
:00:50. > :00:58.Etude Week For Stevenage but all is The date rivalries were put to one
:00:58. > :01:04.side in the name of the beautiful game. I have to take my hat off to
:01:04. > :01:09.the fans. Good evening. After a weekend when
:01:09. > :01:18.football was put on ice, we still have a packed programme for you,
:01:18. > :01:24.including a highlight. But first, the introductions. The Kevin and
:01:24. > :01:32.Perry show is back, let's get the gags out of the way first. Are you
:01:32. > :01:42.in good shape? Yes. Plenty of Commons on Twitter. You
:01:42. > :01:47.lot more than welcome to join in as usual. You can of follow us on
:01:47. > :01:51.Twitter at Late Kick Off East. The weather devastated the fixtures in
:01:51. > :01:58.this part of the world, I cannot remember a Saturday when every game
:01:58. > :02:03.was called off. The heaters were on at this picture and it looked like
:02:03. > :02:10.a great afternoon to play football. They would have been desperate to
:02:10. > :02:14.get the game on because Ipswich won the last two games. The shading on
:02:14. > :02:19.the pitch, temperatures were frozen. the pitch, temperatures were frozen.
:02:19. > :02:24.You can see on the side, particularly this side, it is white.
:02:24. > :02:31.The pitch was rock hard. People are slipping all over the place. It
:02:31. > :02:37.should never have gone ahead. in the minority, I think
:02:37. > :02:42.footballers are a bit soft. I thought I was going to see a clip
:02:42. > :02:47.where the players were like Bambi, falling everywhere, but they were
:02:47. > :02:55.not. Ipswich started really well as well. You could tell that
:02:55. > :02:58.Middlesbrough, the players did not fancy it. I was surprised. If I was
:02:58. > :03:08.the manager, I would have wanted the game to play as long as
:03:08. > :03:12.possible. We later discovered that this injury was due to the pitch.
:03:12. > :03:18.guess the impact was forced through his body because the ground was
:03:18. > :03:26.hard. The rest of the pitch is fine, but this stretch was not playable.
:03:26. > :03:32.You cannot play on two-thirds of the pitch. There is not much grass
:03:32. > :03:37.on that side of the pitch either. He cannot play a game on their. It
:03:37. > :03:43.is dangerous. The problem is they have tried to get the game ahead
:03:43. > :03:52.because how far Middlesbrough fans have travelled. Ipswich players do
:03:52. > :04:01.not look particularly happy. Those fans, 700 fans, it is a long way to
:04:01. > :04:10.come. Ipswich did not want to play. I feel sorry for the supporters at
:04:10. > :04:15.the clubs. That is the weight it is unfortunately. Unfortunately the
:04:15. > :04:20.referee made that decision. I think it was probably the wrong one.
:04:20. > :04:25.of the talking points is whether the fans should be charged for the
:04:25. > :04:31.rearranged games. Ipswich are saying no more than �10. Your
:04:31. > :04:37.thoughts? It is a PR disaster. They have 3,000 extra fans because of
:04:37. > :04:43.the discounted tickets. They are being asked to pay �10, now it is a
:04:43. > :04:46.normal price. How many of those fans are going to go back? A I
:04:46. > :04:56.think they should not have to pay for their tickets. Middlesbrough
:04:56. > :05:01.
:05:01. > :05:11.It has been a bit of a PR disaster. We have had some comments on the
:05:11. > :05:32.
:05:32. > :05:37.They did manage to get on the way at Portland Road, but no such luck
:05:37. > :05:41.elsewhere. Peterborough and West Ham supporters turning up at seven
:05:41. > :05:47.am up to help clear the pitch. It was great to see even though the
:05:47. > :05:51.game did not go ahead. Some people will do anything to get through
:05:51. > :05:56.those doors on Saturday. But that is what you want, everyone wants to
:05:56. > :06:04.see their team play. Clearly they could go to the corn and say that
:06:04. > :06:08.is not playable. But they did not do that. That is at West Ham at
:06:08. > :06:14.fans. They were not from east London, but all the way from Norway,
:06:14. > :06:20.can you believe that? In Norway, that is skirmish, they could not
:06:20. > :06:25.believe the game was not going on. Suffice to say, there was no
:06:25. > :06:33.prospect of the game going ahead. The referee only have one choice.
:06:33. > :06:40.But Barry, giving them a big welcome. These covers are only
:06:40. > :06:45.designed to go down to-five, normal temperatures, but minus 15 is
:06:46. > :06:52.abnormal and unfortunately, as soon as you put them back, it is rock-
:06:52. > :07:00.hard under the surface. I take my hat off to the fans, nearly 300
:07:00. > :07:03.people turned up at seven am. Both sets of fans, to be fair. Within
:07:03. > :07:07.half-an-hour, they had cleared the snow.
:07:07. > :07:12.Great effort all around. Peterborough in action tomorrow,
:07:12. > :07:22.weather permitting. We believe it is good news, both of those games
:07:22. > :07:23.
:07:23. > :07:29.The issue of depression has been in the headlines recently, several
:07:29. > :07:31.high-profile stars have admitted they were affected, including a
:07:31. > :07:39.well known a strike in this part of the world.
:07:39. > :07:47.Saturday afternoon in Luton. Liam MacKenzie is of to do some shopping.
:07:47. > :07:56.Liam and a fellow striker were briefly together at Norwich.
:07:56. > :08:06.Mackenzie, a budding pop star now, is here to choose close for an
:08:06. > :08:10.
:08:10. > :08:16.It is a new chapter in Mackenzie's life, Repton -- representing a new
:08:16. > :08:22.chapter for a man who admitted wanting to attempt suicide.
:08:22. > :08:31.Struggling with injuries, things hit rock bottom a couple of years
:08:31. > :08:37.ago. I tried to take my life to the point of where I did not want to be
:08:37. > :08:44.here any more. I had everything, beautiful everything, but the place
:08:44. > :08:49.that I was in mentally, I felt like I was getting one injury after
:08:49. > :08:57.another. It was draining mentally. When you go home, you shut your
:08:57. > :09:04.door, it's sometimes can eat away at you. I lost my sister to suicide
:09:04. > :09:10.earlier, she was only 23. That just destroyed me when she took her life,
:09:10. > :09:16.not just then because I was at shock, but later on in my life when
:09:16. > :09:20.it caught up with me. This is how all football fans remember him up,
:09:20. > :09:30.a striker moved from Peterborough to Norwich and proved an instant
:09:30. > :09:32.
:09:32. > :09:37.hit. His second! A far cry from the dark days that would follow, but
:09:37. > :09:40.depression is more prevalent in the game than most might think. A lot
:09:40. > :09:44.of eggs professionals are struggling to know what to do next.
:09:44. > :09:50.They had accumulated so much money over their Korea and it dwindles
:09:50. > :09:55.and then they get into a position where they have nothing left. It is
:09:55. > :09:59.a sorry state that professionals can get into. Sadly, as with
:09:59. > :10:03.football, you normally are pampered and everything comes to you. When
:10:03. > :10:09.you stop, it is the other way around. You have to get up and get
:10:09. > :10:18.on with life. MacKenzie, now 33, recently shared his story in the
:10:18. > :10:25.hope it would help others in the similar position. It was tough, but
:10:25. > :10:29.I needed to put the word out and make people more aware. There are a
:10:29. > :10:36.lot of footballers who have approached me about it, which for
:10:36. > :10:42.me is really satisfying because I have had players saying, I am
:10:43. > :10:49.struggling. Can you help me? For me, that is all I needed because now I
:10:49. > :10:57.know that I can put them on to whether it is back and help them.
:10:57. > :11:02.That is really positive for me. As is the future: two years later,
:11:03. > :11:12.Leon is looking forward to a bright future. His single has attracted
:11:12. > :11:16.thousands of hits on line. I am blessed in many ways, but I am just
:11:16. > :11:26.a man who if I'm going to do something, I put my heart and soul
:11:26. > :11:33.
:11:33. > :11:39.into it and do my best. The way His singing voice is good. On a
:11:39. > :11:44.serious note, he has a good voice, it is a very catty, commercial song.
:11:44. > :11:51.If I did not know who was singing it, I would still say it is a good
:11:51. > :11:57.song. Finally, featuring Harvey, that is
:11:57. > :12:02.Leon. I knew I would get it wrong! That is out on 19th March Andy Can
:12:02. > :12:12.See It Now on YouTube a. It was good to catch up with both of those
:12:12. > :12:23.
:12:23. > :12:27.I'm not embarrassed or ashamed with my problems, but I finished at 28,
:12:27. > :12:33.injuries finished my career. I didn't know when I was going to
:12:33. > :12:39.play again. It didn't happen. I finished my career. I had some
:12:39. > :12:43.money, and some things behind me, and I suppressed those feelings. A
:12:43. > :12:47.few things happened financially, and the thing that topped it off is
:12:47. > :12:53.my mum was diagnosed with breast cancer, and that hit me hard and it
:12:53. > :13:01.has been a real struggle. I called him first, and he has been
:13:02. > :13:06.absolutely brilliant. And it is more prevalent. Stan Collymore etc.
:13:06. > :13:10.Again, he is saying, talk about it. There are more people in your
:13:10. > :13:16.situation then you might have thought. It is a tree had pressured
:13:16. > :13:21.environment. One day, you were locked, and the next day, you were
:13:21. > :13:26.a hated. People compare it to coming out of the army. One way of
:13:26. > :13:30.life. You know nothing else. To try to find something else, another way
:13:30. > :13:36.of life, you have got no guidance, know where to turn, so you make
:13:36. > :13:41.your own way. You take everything on board, like I did when I was a
:13:41. > :13:45.footballer. But speaking to people involved, like leon, and Clarke
:13:45. > :13:48.Carlisle, they have been an inspiration. I know plenty of other
:13:49. > :13:53.people that I will not mention but that have come to me and have
:13:53. > :14:00.spoken about things. It has amazed me how many people have picked --
:14:00. > :14:04.have suffered from this. And the future will be bright. Absolutely.
:14:04. > :14:09.Nobody will understand that unless you have been there yourself. You
:14:09. > :14:13.come out the other side, you work hard. You make up own luck in life
:14:14. > :14:19.and to push on to the next level. I have got support with my friends of
:14:19. > :14:24.my family and the future is bright. -- the support of my friends.
:14:24. > :14:28.played for Arsenal. When you came out of the game, it was a shock for
:14:28. > :14:33.you. I got drunk for a year. And then I thought, I've got to look
:14:33. > :14:39.after my children. I did cold- calling. You have a void in your
:14:39. > :14:43.life. But then, if you talk to your people, friends and family, things
:14:43. > :14:47.are not as bad as you think. It is about taking responsibility and
:14:48. > :14:54.trying to add another chapter to life. Great work by Leon McKenzie
:14:54. > :14:59.and plenty of people following suit. Plenty to come. Southend go to
:14:59. > :15:06.Gillingham in League Two and... After the Anfield cat, we rewind to
:15:06. > :15:15.the day a pesky protractor one man's career.
:15:15. > :15:20.What a tackle. What a great tackle. Pay in full. Stevenage, a Sheffield
:15:20. > :15:24.Wednesday tomorrow. Followed by that massive cup-tie with Spurs.
:15:24. > :15:34.The latest chapter in the rise and rise of a club playing non-League
:15:34. > :15:52.
:15:52. > :16:02.football less than two years ago. Some up Stevenage. Great family,
:16:02. > :16:02.
:16:03. > :16:07.fun, buzzing club. You were here before the players. Always. I have
:16:07. > :16:14.been asked to get some stuff, so I do what I need to do. I get a cup
:16:14. > :16:19.of tea and then get myself organised. I am responsible for the
:16:19. > :16:25.first team set-up at Stevenage. A typical day would start around 9am,
:16:26. > :16:33.where I come in, deal with paperwork. Then the players will do
:16:33. > :16:38.an early training session. And then they come in for training.
:16:38. > :16:43.We will train over the road. We have been using that for the last
:16:43. > :16:47.week. We haven't trained on grass since last Monday. It has been
:16:47. > :16:57.difficult, but we are getting on with it. All the lads are brilliant.
:16:57. > :16:58.
:16:58. > :17:02.They all get out there. 11-7, general sale on Monday. Thank you,
:17:03. > :17:07.goodbye. You've got one thing in mind, and that is getting hold of
:17:07. > :17:13.the Spurs ticket, is that right? Have caused. What else do you want?
:17:13. > :17:20.After that, we will take Arsenal! That is what it is all about now.
:17:20. > :17:24.What we have been waiting years for. The fitness coach will be taking
:17:24. > :17:31.the first 20 minutes of the session, getting players are ready in these
:17:31. > :17:41.sub-zero conditions. We will split into groups. Mark will take one
:17:41. > :17:46.
:17:46. > :17:54.This will put people off their dinner tonight, I tell you. They
:17:54. > :17:57.are a great bunch of lads. They are professionals. And that is why they
:17:57. > :18:02.have done so well.! There aren't too many clubs where it takes just
:18:02. > :18:06.second to what from the front door all the way through to the back
:18:06. > :18:11.door where the tunnel and Pritch ears. It is that kind of intimacy
:18:11. > :18:15.that makes Stevenage a police -- a special place to be. From the
:18:15. > :18:20.players to the ground staff, to the front office staff, everyone has
:18:21. > :18:25.been hugely accommodating. There are still a lot of those values
:18:25. > :18:35.coming out of non-League football that still remain. There is a lot
:18:35. > :18:35.
:18:35. > :18:42.of respect and trust in people. Which, you know, can sometimes does
:18:42. > :18:45.appear in the full-time pro ranks. What is going on? We have got the
:18:45. > :18:50.pitch for recovered. We have a problem with this far side, about
:18:50. > :18:55.six metres in from the sideline, so we have got some air blowers that
:18:55. > :18:59.we are putting under the covers and then we will thaw it out. It makes
:18:59. > :19:05.your job interesting. It does. Keeps me fit shovelling all this
:19:05. > :19:10.snow. I had a gentleman yesterday that came in, I was on my own. He
:19:10. > :19:17.was clearly drunk. I could smell the whiskey. He said he wanted to
:19:17. > :19:24.buy a ticket for the game wearing a Tottenham top. As to come, I used
:19:24. > :19:30.Stevenage or Tottenham? He says, Stevenage. Clearly not Stevenage. I
:19:30. > :19:36.shouldn't have come with that on, should die? Does it give you more
:19:36. > :19:42.motivated to try to knock Spurs out of the Cup? On the day, it won't
:19:42. > :19:50.make any difference. The links I have, it doesn't matter. We will be
:19:50. > :19:54.faced with a tough Tottenham side. Lots of quality. Whatever team
:19:54. > :19:58.Harry Redknapp chooses to put on the field, they will be extremely
:19:58. > :20:06.capable. We will know the sort of challenge we have in front of us.
:20:06. > :20:16.And we will be ready for that. how has it gone? It has been very
:20:16. > :20:16.
:20:16. > :20:21.manic. Sold about 700 tickets. About 260 seats. And the rest,
:20:21. > :20:27.terraces. I am pretty tired now. Wants to go home. It could take a
:20:27. > :20:32.step back and look at it, we will look back and think, that was a
:20:32. > :20:36.great time. It has been a great time so far.
:20:36. > :20:44.Never mind looking back, but looking forward, what a great
:20:44. > :20:49.picture looking for it to it. We have got the league tomorrow night,
:20:49. > :20:54.but their story is extraordinary, isn't it? It is a brilliantly run a
:20:55. > :20:59.club. Phil Wallace, the chairman, took over in 1999. He has taken his
:20:59. > :21:03.business practice into a Football Club. They invested their money
:21:03. > :21:08.back into the team. What they are looking for is continuity. As a
:21:08. > :21:13.player, Darren, you are from Norwich, they have got a great
:21:13. > :21:17.thing going. It seems to me as if it is a similar thing there. They
:21:17. > :21:24.have had successive promotions, and it is by and large the same group
:21:24. > :21:28.of players. Just the manager has moved on. They have taken a big
:21:28. > :21:33.leap, trying to have run the club profession may, training nine-to-
:21:33. > :21:36.five, continuing that into what they are doing now. They are adding
:21:36. > :21:41.that professional element in the non-League is the element to where
:21:41. > :21:46.they are now. There is still the rock -- the family run feel in the
:21:46. > :21:51.club and they will have to move on a little bit there. They will have
:21:51. > :21:58.more success to come. Let's just have a look at the League One
:21:58. > :22:03.fixtures. All eyes on the weather, which is improving. MK Dons, after
:22:03. > :22:10.Trotton, huge match for them. Stevenage against Sheffield. And
:22:10. > :22:19.Cotterstock against Brentford. We should give a mention to Colchester,
:22:19. > :22:29.the fans helping to clear the snow. Because of the cat at Anfield --
:22:29. > :22:42.
:22:43. > :22:52.pictures of a cat. They reminded here. And still that dog is in it.
:22:53. > :23:05.
:23:05. > :23:08.Gerry Harrison commentating from 1970. By happy chance, I have a
:23:08. > :23:15.programme from that game. Colchester United against Brentford.
:23:15. > :23:25.There is the proof, if it was needed. In goal, Chick pretty, and
:23:25. > :23:25.
:23:25. > :23:30.it ended his career. -- Chik Brody. It was just before your day. That
:23:30. > :23:35.was sad at the end because the goalkeeper, that was it, the end of
:23:35. > :23:44.his career. People would have laughed. He shattered his kneecap.
:23:44. > :23:46.The thing that worries me is the ball was put forward by somebody I
:23:46. > :23:53.played with. In League Two, Massa relegation
:23:53. > :23:58.clash for Northampton tomorrow night, taking on a FC Wimbledon. --
:23:58. > :24:08.massive relegation clash. Tonight, Southend had a great chance to go
:24:08. > :24:11.
:24:11. > :24:16.back to the top if they could win after their defeat on the weekend.
:24:16. > :24:20.In a garish away shirts and with four difference starting players,
:24:21. > :24:25.performance levels needed to return to where they were forced at
:24:25. > :24:30.Gillingham hadn't played the two weeks and so if -- savant caught
:24:30. > :24:35.them cold. Ferdinand should have scored, but Dickinson picked up the
:24:35. > :24:41.pieces. 10 minutes gone and Dickinson same thing Ferdinand's
:24:41. > :24:47.embarrassment. Gillingham had conceded 10 goals in three games.
:24:47. > :24:54.Clearly, they have work to do. The energy and effort from Southend
:24:54. > :24:59.meant that they were up for the fight. The Gills keeper was
:24:59. > :25:05.recently released by Valencia and he had to be sharp. Against a
:25:05. > :25:15.fragile Gillingham defence, more goals would come. The second
:25:15. > :25:16.
:25:16. > :25:26.arrived after the half-hour. Good His presence was enough to force up
:25:26. > :25:31.
:25:31. > :25:36.the goal. Gillingham, an own goal. The top of the two. When South end
:25:36. > :25:41.lead at half-time, they have gone on to win at each occasion, so they
:25:41. > :25:45.could be satisfied with the first 45 minutes, which couldn't be said
:25:45. > :25:52.for his opposite number. Gillingham came out stronger in the second
:25:52. > :25:57.half. Tomlin gave the goalkeeper his first real test.
:25:57. > :26:04.Morris has spent much of the evening keeping warm but he didn't
:26:04. > :26:13.freeze when called upon. Gillingham did not car but some chances. --
:26:13. > :26:20.did not carve up any chances. But it came from Tomlin. A brilliant
:26:20. > :26:26.strike. Morris, no chance this time. With a few minutes left, enough for
:26:26. > :26:29.nerves to stop creeping through. A goal to be admired by everyone.
:26:30. > :26:34.With five minutes of stoppage time signalled, Southend had to soak up
:26:34. > :26:44.some desperate pressure from the home side. They have to rely on a
:26:44. > :26:46.
:26:46. > :26:55.poor miss from Western. 2-1 it finished. Southend were back at the
:26:55. > :27:01.They do travel well, don't they? They didn't have to go far, but
:27:01. > :27:06.they do have the best away record, enhanced now a. A few nerves at the
:27:06. > :27:10.end. It is natural. They all worked very hard and the team ship was
:27:10. > :27:15.good. It keeps them top of the league. And now that is where they
:27:15. > :27:21.want to stay. If you don't listen to your manager, you don't play.
:27:21. > :27:26.Simple as that. Southend, getting back to the top of the table.
:27:26. > :27:32.Darren, Tyson Heung former clubs together in action in the FA Cup. -
:27:32. > :27:40.- your former clubs. Who will win? I will probably be sitting on the
:27:40. > :27:46.fence, but with a yellow shirt on. And now, as safe in the Premier
:27:46. > :27:52.League, as safe. They were saved to will three weeks ago. Norwich have
:27:52. > :27:56.done incredibly well. What do you reckon, Perry? Normally, some
:27:56. > :28:01.managers would say forget the FA Cup because the leak is important.
:28:01. > :28:05.But they have everything to play for. He puts a stronger side out. I
:28:05. > :28:11.think he will do that. There is nothing Norwich fans would like
:28:11. > :28:17.better than an FA Cup. And the odds of making it through to the semi-
:28:17. > :28:23.final? Wembley? Who cares. It is the longest Cup run we have had in