:00:08. > :00:13.Looks like a picked the right time to take a break after last week's
:00:13. > :00:23.big freeze, normal service is big freeze, normal service is
:00:23. > :00:24.
:00:24. > :00:28.big freeze, normal service is resumed. I have a handful of goals.
:00:28. > :00:33.Tonight, a blueprint for success, Darren MacAnthony shares his vision
:00:33. > :00:37.for a bright future at Bosch. made mistakes but I will not make
:00:37. > :00:43.them again. With all the talking points from an action-packed
:00:43. > :00:47.weekend, who was a lucky boy? not know anybody so far who has
:00:47. > :00:53.seen it and thought anything different other than an immediate
:00:53. > :00:58.red card. One FA Cup weekend it is back to relive one of the biggest
:00:58. > :01:04.upsets of all time. For one hour and 10 minutes we were brilliant,
:01:04. > :01:10.absolutely brilliant. Good evening and welcome. We are
:01:10. > :01:16.thawed out and ready for action. We are happy to will welcome a regular
:01:16. > :01:20.guest and one of my former team- mates. I am really pleased we have
:01:20. > :01:25.got Richard here because he is a member of the goalkeeper's union.
:01:25. > :01:34.We have a treat for Peterborough supporters tonight, a revealing
:01:34. > :01:40.interview with the chairman. First, Richard, is Aaron eight lucky man
:01:40. > :01:44.to stay on the pitch? Hears. The ball goes out and as it is played
:01:44. > :01:53.through and it goes out, it is al for throwing. That is all I was
:01:53. > :01:57.concerned about but I think he is a lucky boy. I think the referee sees
:01:57. > :02:02.the ball going at a right-angle and if it was any other player on the
:02:02. > :02:08.pitch it would be a straight red card. It is a horrendous tackle.
:02:08. > :02:13.I made that challenge in the middle of a picture I would expect a red
:02:13. > :02:19.card. I made a few. It is fair to say that Mark McKay was not overly
:02:19. > :02:22.impressed. It is an incredible decision by the referee. I do not
:02:22. > :02:28.know anyone who has looked at it and thought anything different
:02:28. > :02:32.other than an immediate red card. With three own-goals, the referee
:02:32. > :02:37.said at half-time he just thought the goalkeeper Stoke Gifford out on
:02:37. > :02:42.the ground and just mistimed it. Well he, he will look at it again
:02:42. > :02:48.and seek to feet of the ground and see him hitting him at pace. It was
:02:48. > :02:52.a horrendous tackle. He was not happy. Paul Jewell was expecting
:02:52. > :02:56.someone would come on. I think so the referee took a while to make
:02:56. > :02:59.his decision and really thought about it so I think he was getting
:02:59. > :03:03.prepared. Laika said, because the ball went out wide it might have
:03:03. > :03:08.been a saving grace for him. Also it happened in about the 9th minute
:03:08. > :03:12.of the game. A bit of luck there for Ipswich but they took advantage.
:03:12. > :03:19.Cardiff are going through a blip at the moment. They have lost two out
:03:19. > :03:24.of three. It was a great challenge from Delaney. He got in behind the
:03:24. > :03:29.back four. They came at to the left-hand side and Daryl Murphy
:03:29. > :03:36.crossed. He did really well going to go wind and then pulling away.
:03:36. > :03:42.How do you explain this improvement? Format wins on the
:03:42. > :03:45.spinner. Confidence is high and that is a contrast. Yes, there is
:03:45. > :03:50.plenty going on at training. We have been good at tackling. That is
:03:50. > :03:56.a great save and a great recovery. What matters is how you react and
:03:56. > :04:01.how you recover. Michael Chopra seems to be really flying at the
:04:01. > :04:05.moment. This is a great Borlin. Michael Chopra came in from a half
:04:05. > :04:09.-- far post. He said he would not celebrate the time of day with that.
:04:09. > :04:16.I think you should celebrate because emotion takes over. Yes,
:04:16. > :04:21.the emotion takes over. Michael Chopra going for the Golden Boot as
:04:21. > :04:25.well. 12 goals in the season. Considering he was left out for
:04:25. > :04:29.five games at the beginning of the year because of personal problems.
:04:29. > :04:36.I do not know if they have been working on it but when you get into
:04:36. > :04:39.wide areas they just are ripping balls into the box. If you look at
:04:40. > :04:43.the Stats over the season and all the entries we have put into the
:04:43. > :04:49.box there have been enough there. The problem has been keeping the
:04:49. > :04:54.ball out of the other end. This must really be pleasing Paul Jewell.
:04:54. > :04:58.Yes, the goalkeeper is judged by a clean sheet said to keep a clean
:04:58. > :05:02.sheet is really important. Is it as simple as confidence? Is it that
:05:02. > :05:09.simple? We have been playing well and just the belief I think. There
:05:09. > :05:13.have been games where we have goals and we are not doing that now.
:05:13. > :05:15.That belief and continuity of winning games and the same team
:05:15. > :05:21.winning games and the same team seems to be playing dividends.
:05:21. > :05:25.us look at the table. Ipswich are 15 points clear of Portsmouth in
:05:25. > :05:29.the relegation zone. Paul Jewell was saying that he was still
:05:29. > :05:33.looking down rather than up, do you think there is any possibility of
:05:33. > :05:36.getting into play-off positions? You always have to look as high as
:05:36. > :05:39.you can. As far as it which are concerned we must make sure that we
:05:39. > :05:42.get a good result the next game against Brighton at the weekend
:05:42. > :05:46.which will be tough after the result they have had but we are
:05:46. > :05:49.full of confidence. Oh be we will get the right result. Four we
:05:49. > :05:59.invited our view was to get in touch and ask a few questions so
:05:59. > :06:00.
:06:00. > :06:09.here goes. No, I have no regrets. You can never look back enough. It
:06:09. > :06:19.was a great chance to play for a massive team. How can you regret
:06:19. > :06:20.
:06:20. > :06:27.moving to Arsenal? You have to be as good as you can be. I can answer
:06:27. > :06:32.that one! The player I enjoy playing most with was Tony Mobley.
:06:32. > :06:42.He was like a head on a stick and he kept everything into the box. He
:06:42. > :06:43.
:06:43. > :06:47.you could learn so much from him. The third question. Hopefully. This
:06:47. > :06:51.season is not over at the moment and we take every game as it comes.
:06:51. > :06:55.Hopefully the good results will go for a song we just do not know in
:06:55. > :06:59.football. There are 45 points out there for grabs for us so we will
:06:59. > :07:01.wait and see. We have to win against Brighton first.
:07:01. > :07:08.Peterborough United chairman Darren MacAnthony is a charismatic figure
:07:08. > :07:10.but it is not often that you hear from him. Tonight we can put that
:07:10. > :07:12.right. In the Football League chairmen
:07:12. > :07:20.come in all shapes and sizes but few put themselves above the
:07:20. > :07:24.parapet quite like Darren MacAnthony. I run my businesses to
:07:24. > :07:28.a certain extent like a dictatorship. He is full of passion,
:07:28. > :07:32.commitment and money so let us all get behind him and go forward. That
:07:32. > :07:42.does not matter what has happened in the past. He will have his third
:07:42. > :07:43.
:07:43. > :07:47.heart attack! You other guys to play is the bills and me to get the
:07:47. > :07:51.public in to help you pay the bills and the need to hear from you.
:07:51. > :07:56.have never met anyone like him. The confidence is is out of him. He is
:07:56. > :07:59.a strong character and not the kind of character to underestimate.
:07:59. > :08:05.pre-show we have come from. You need that work-ethic for success.
:08:05. > :08:09.The we are so lucky here to have a chairman as dedicated as him. Not
:08:09. > :08:14.to mention that he has put 12 million in in the last few years!
:08:14. > :08:17.When he arrived he was the youngest chairman the Football League and he
:08:17. > :08:22.had a plan and he had money and he was ready to spend it. When I
:08:22. > :08:26.was ready to spend it. When I bought the Cup -- Club, the short-
:08:26. > :08:31.term mission was seven years. I wanted to have a right go and dream
:08:31. > :08:34.and they write to the top. We were 13 indeed to at the time. A I asked
:08:34. > :08:37.him what his vision was and he said he wanted back-to-back promotions
:08:37. > :08:43.are getting the Premier League and I fell off my chair and I said you
:08:43. > :08:47.do not do that. I think we all had a chuckle. Also everyone admired
:08:47. > :08:51.the ambition. To be honest, who would have thought they would be in
:08:51. > :08:54.the championship this season? In those days we were talking League 2
:08:54. > :08:58.and Three and a half 1,000 people. Back-to-back promotions and Darren
:08:59. > :09:02.was living the dream until it all came crashing down in a relegation
:09:02. > :09:07.nightmare and a messy managerial merry-go-round when countless came,
:09:07. > :09:12.went and came back again. He came in for a lot of stick over Darren's
:09:12. > :09:16.departure from the club. I thought it wasn't just because I knew what
:09:16. > :09:20.had gone on and you cannot have the manager not talking to the chairman.
:09:20. > :09:25.There is only one outcome. That is what happened. There was a period
:09:25. > :09:27.after that season and after Jim Gannon and he was leaving a we did
:09:27. > :09:32.not have another manager and I was very despondent about the whole
:09:32. > :09:35.thing and I thought I had handled it badly. He has probably learned
:09:35. > :09:39.as I have that the grass is not always greener. He had the bottle
:09:39. > :09:43.to bring me back and a lot of people question that. For whatever
:09:43. > :09:47.reason it works between us. I never met the same mistake twice. Make
:09:47. > :09:51.your mistakes, learn from them and never make the same mistake twice.
:09:51. > :09:55.That is key. I did make mistakes and it will not make them again. I
:09:55. > :09:59.said to the fans that if I did I would walk. It may be the fans'
:10:00. > :10:02.club but is not their ground. It is owned by the council and the
:10:02. > :10:08.redevelopment has already started. Hopefully 19,000 will be packed
:10:08. > :10:14.into a new stadium here. The problem is they just cannot feel it.
:10:14. > :10:16.It is not a footballing city. It just is not. When you're in the
:10:16. > :10:20.Premier League for the championship, you will not fill the place every
:10:20. > :10:23.other week. You just will not. go to Peterborough station on a
:10:23. > :10:28.Saturday morning as the the number of Arsenal and Chelsea stops.
:10:28. > :10:30.People are going down to London. Posh feel as though they are
:10:30. > :10:36.banging my head against a brick wall because there was not much
:10:36. > :10:40.more they can do. Fans moan about the crowds but they understand it.
:10:40. > :10:43.This is tough times out there and there are a lot of people who
:10:43. > :10:47.support Premier League clubs are we can only try to make a difference
:10:47. > :10:53.and score goals and triumph drag people in and slowly build it.
:10:53. > :10:56.he does not own his own ground but one place he does so is this place.
:10:56. > :11:00.This is the Peterborough United brand new training ground. He has
:11:00. > :11:05.already spent half-a-million pounds and a further one provide million
:11:05. > :11:09.pounds is set for over the next few years. Financial austerity has come
:11:09. > :11:13.into football so let us be ahead of the game at position ourselves well.
:11:13. > :11:16.We are all in the same playing field. Let us make sure our youth
:11:16. > :11:20.system is feeding the first tee with quality young players and let
:11:20. > :11:25.us and the money on that now so we are in a position in a few years'
:11:25. > :11:29.time when 50% of the first 11 are from our youth team. That Timmy
:11:29. > :11:32.would be the biggest accomplishment in my time here. Forget about the
:11:33. > :11:36.promotions and transfer fees. Half of that first team in three years'
:11:36. > :11:41.time will be youth team and that is our mission accomplished. The years
:11:41. > :11:44.have ticked by and much has changed but much has also stayed the same.
:11:44. > :11:50.Darren MacAnthony remains a man with a mission and he has only just
:11:50. > :11:53.got going. He accepts another being in the championship is a success in
:11:53. > :12:00.itself for the club and the crowd we get on average and all of the
:12:00. > :12:04.rest of it. We have got no getting the football club. It is solely run
:12:04. > :12:09.financially by him because of the gates and all the rest of it. I
:12:09. > :12:13.think we have a lot to be proud of. A bomb in the championship, is that
:12:13. > :12:15.what I wanted and I took over? Absolutely. I would love to be in
:12:15. > :12:20.the Premiership but if we stopped tomorrow and I left I would still
:12:20. > :12:24.be a happy man. It is not like I did not complete all of my
:12:24. > :12:34.objections, three promotions in format years. Thank you Lauder has
:12:34. > :12:39.
:12:39. > :12:42.He is young and energetic. Darren Ferguson knows he is not going to
:12:42. > :12:46.get the sack because he will not make the mistake twice. It takes a
:12:46. > :12:50.brave chairman to bring back a manager because it doesn't always
:12:50. > :12:54.work. It was a tough decision for him to make. There was a big cloud
:12:54. > :12:59.over him leaving but since he has come back, the promotion and they
:12:59. > :13:06.are doing OK. The thing that struck me most was when he said that the
:13:06. > :13:11.fast -- he wants half the first team to be from the younger players.
:13:11. > :13:17.The only thing that worries me is that the bigger clubs and will come
:13:17. > :13:22.and take their younger players. Darren Ferguson's that, Sir Alex
:13:22. > :13:29.Ferguson, he was at the game. Not always a lucky charm. Yes, they
:13:29. > :13:33.normally lose when he goes. But they played very well. They needed
:13:33. > :13:42.that. The first win since Boxing Day. They are getting players in
:13:42. > :13:48.the box. A good cross from a can. And then the Tomlyn puts the header
:13:48. > :13:53.past the head keeper. I think they have had some good results and Joe
:13:53. > :13:58.has been doing OK. I think there is maybe a can Cattrall thing. Paul
:13:58. > :14:05.Jones has done well early on in the season. He would have liked to have
:14:05. > :14:13.had a game like this. It was a great finish. Yes, it makes more of
:14:13. > :14:17.the goals that you can turn your grandchildren. I worked with David
:14:17. > :14:27.James within the England set-up. A fantastic athlete and a fantastic
:14:27. > :14:27.
:14:28. > :14:32.goalkeeper. A little bit of a mix up here. But the boy is composed.
:14:33. > :14:39.He thought, I will roll it to lead Tomlinson he can get another goal.
:14:39. > :14:44.That was a master at win. Brian Bennett's last home game as well.
:14:44. > :14:51.He is a typical thing they are trying to do. Grimsby, Peterborough
:14:51. > :14:55.and now sold on to Norwich. That is another stepping stone. Let's look
:14:55. > :15:00.at the table. With Portsmouth losing 10 points, Peterborough are
:15:00. > :15:08.12 points clear. And they are aiming for 50 points. Survival, it
:15:08. > :15:12.is on. They are playing with more confidence. They will always score
:15:12. > :15:17.goals, Peterborough, which gives you a chance. Plenty more to come
:15:17. > :15:23.this evening as well. It is a case of what happened next
:15:23. > :15:33.has Daniel brings a halt to proceedings at Stadium MK. I kicked
:15:33. > :15:34.
:15:34. > :15:38.the ball out of plate. Then some pure FA Cup magic. And Simmons, one
:15:38. > :15:41.against one. And it is there. is all still to come but it is the
:15:41. > :15:47.current Colchester vintage car and their trip to year for at the
:15:47. > :15:53.weekend. Disappointing, actually, because they let it go in the
:15:53. > :15:58.second half. Yes, it is a good finish, his third goal in the last
:15:58. > :16:03.two games. They started really well, Colchester. Stephen Gillespie is in
:16:03. > :16:09.good form. Gavin Massey was recalled by Watford and they had
:16:09. > :16:19.signed Freddie Sears, which must be a good sign. It gives them a bit of
:16:19. > :16:24.
:16:24. > :16:30.liveliness up front. The ball seems to have travelled a long way.
:16:30. > :16:35.lose the first header. Andy Williams hooks it in. You have got
:16:35. > :16:45.to go full-frontal to stop the Gulf. Talk about Beckham here.
:16:45. > :16:50.fantastic free-kick. He could have made a Hero of himself here at the
:16:50. > :16:57.far post. Colchester must be disappointed. Freddie Sears,
:16:57. > :17:01.signing somebody of his stature. has been in Scunthorpe and Crystal
:17:01. > :17:06.Palace, he has a lot to prove. He will get a lot of games under his
:17:07. > :17:13.belt because of the fixture backlog. MK Dons, they needed this win as
:17:13. > :17:18.well, didn't they? They have not won in 2012. It was all about
:17:18. > :17:24.Daniel Powell. It is his show. He thinks he scores. But Brendan
:17:24. > :17:28.Malone, the referee, gives the penalty. The first win in six games,
:17:28. > :17:34.the first win since beating Colchester. They have played some
:17:34. > :17:39.good for double. They get players into the box. And Daniel Powell,
:17:39. > :17:43.going through again. This is interesting. I am not really sure
:17:43. > :17:48.that I would be doing that. Richard? If he was in the middle
:17:48. > :17:53.of the goal, he would carry on and score, but because he has heard him
:17:53. > :18:02.scream, he has done the right thing. We will hear from him in a minute.
:18:02. > :18:09.Back in the action again, and here he scores. He is very strong. He
:18:09. > :18:18.has a lot of pace. He is lucky they won 5-0. And this is him again.
:18:18. > :18:26.Good technique. And, obviously, their first win in six games.
:18:26. > :18:33.were back to their best. This is a fantastic goal. This is them 4-0 up
:18:33. > :18:40.and Oldham are ready to get on my bus home. I saw them the other day,
:18:40. > :18:45.linked with David Bentley, that would be good, wouldn't it? Yes. It
:18:45. > :18:50.was said that Gleason and Potter, they played like Rolls-Royce,
:18:50. > :18:57.pushing the team on, but they need their manager. Daniel Powell, what
:18:57. > :19:02.did you think about him? You think he did the right thing? I think so.
:19:02. > :19:07.Where he was, he could have got involved, but because he is outside
:19:07. > :19:11.the penalty box... He kicks the ball away. He hears him scream.
:19:11. > :19:16.This is what he thought after the gain. I went down with him,
:19:16. > :19:21.basically, and I heard him yelp. I thought he heard himself, I didn't
:19:21. > :19:26.know what he wants. The first thing was to give the ball out of play.
:19:26. > :19:31.So, contrasting views. Let your team score, then see how the play
:19:31. > :19:35.is because he could have the player on the floor, and you might be
:19:35. > :19:41.pretending he is injured. By it you do know when somebody is seriously
:19:41. > :19:47.injured, though a. I would not take any notice. I think you do. Where
:19:48. > :19:52.he was on the pitch, for me, I think he has done the right thing.
:19:52. > :20:00.But everybody wants to score goals! Let's see what that victory did for
:20:00. > :20:07.them. It leaves them in 5th position. 10 points now of
:20:07. > :20:12.Sheffield United. Stevenage are also flying high. They have got
:20:12. > :20:21.their first win, and Coral up -- Carl Roberts and some will want
:20:21. > :20:28.consolidate that. Big game tomorrow to bury. They must win. It is into
:20:28. > :20:35.the lead to an Southend at home to Crewe. Another big win for them.
:20:35. > :20:42.Victory away from home. Dickinson, a challenge, cleared off the line.
:20:42. > :20:48.It is just about winning games. Four games, two wins on the trot.
:20:48. > :20:52.But home form has not been great. It is a great shot from Murphy.
:20:52. > :21:01.think he would be disappointed with the first one, but to react for the
:21:02. > :21:07.second, that is brilliant. The war jumps, he goes underneath, and the
:21:07. > :21:11.goalkeeper, he must be very disappointed. To go through the
:21:11. > :21:17.wall that side is something that cannot happen. They have been quite
:21:18. > :21:23.clever. It is tight at the top. It makes good reading for some of them.
:21:23. > :21:28.They are top by goal difference, but it is going to be nip and tuck.
:21:28. > :21:32.Any team down to Crawley, any of them could win. Southend's away
:21:32. > :21:42.form could see them get promotion. A massive game in a couple of weeks.
:21:42. > :21:47.
:21:47. > :21:52.Yes. Tomorrow night, of course, On Wednesday, Stevenage return to
:21:52. > :21:58.League One action. They are travelling to Notts County. After
:21:58. > :22:05.that brilliant effort against Spurs in the FA Cup, which and them a
:22:05. > :22:15.replay, and with that in mind, what better moment to celebrate one of
:22:15. > :22:19.
:22:19. > :22:24.the best FA Cup tyres of all time. of the FA Cup. Lonely Colchester
:22:24. > :22:30.United of Division Four against high-rolling First Division
:22:30. > :22:35.superstars Leeds. He has missed his tackle completely. That was a kind
:22:35. > :22:38.ball for Leeds. The referee has stopped play and penalise Charlton.
:22:38. > :22:43.What happened that afternoon would become the stuff of football
:22:43. > :22:53.folklore. This free-kick could be awkward because any ball in the air
:22:53. > :22:58.
:22:58. > :23:07.is a real test. The kick is being taken by Brian Lewis. And there it
:23:07. > :23:13.is, Crawford got it. They came down with 10 internationals. We thought
:23:13. > :23:23.that maybe we could get a draw. But for an hour and 10 minutes, we were
:23:23. > :23:32.really good. We had a great manager in Dick Graham. He planned things.
:23:32. > :23:39.He said, Lou Reed, when you take these corners, you do this. Ray,
:23:39. > :23:45.come in the back post late. And all that happened. All of these things
:23:45. > :23:52.happen. They came out, and I nodded it in the net. Norman Hunter looked
:23:52. > :23:59.around and said, I could have had that, but I thought that the other
:23:59. > :24:05.one was going to get it. I said, yes, so did I! Crawford, a cool
:24:05. > :24:13.score so often, has done it again. 18 minutes gone, Colchester lead
:24:13. > :24:23.Leeds. The second to one, we had a brilliant one from the back.
:24:23. > :24:29.
:24:29. > :24:36.Goldcrest. Good ball. Crawford is there. And Simmons. 2-0 for
:24:36. > :24:41.Colchester. The ball is there and I just swung my leg at it and hit it.
:24:41. > :24:47.It is rolling and hitting the post, and it creeps over the line. Dave
:24:47. > :24:51.Simmons was following up anyway. Dave would have got it anyway. We
:24:51. > :25:01.went 2-0 up, and then a second half -- in the second half, we got
:25:01. > :25:03.
:25:03. > :25:09.another goal. Crawford. A Lewis for Colchester. And Simmons, one
:25:09. > :25:13.against one. Simmons and the goalkeeper and it is there. Dave
:25:13. > :25:19.Simmons went up, and there was only going to be one winner and it was
:25:19. > :25:25.going to be big day. We are thinking, we are through, we are
:25:25. > :25:32.through! The crowd of fantastic. They are cheering and everything
:25:32. > :25:41.has gone brilliantly. All of a sudden, we all died at once because
:25:42. > :25:48.I was 35. I was 35 and Brian Gibson was 33, and all of us were in our
:25:48. > :25:52.30s. And then lead started to play. And we didn't get a kick. But is a
:25:52. > :25:56.corner and one has the feeling that Leeds have accepted they have got a
:25:56. > :26:06.match on their hands. They are 3-0 down and they are starting to
:26:06. > :26:24.
:26:24. > :26:31.have... They have pushed nine men after one hour, Paul 1 -- have one
:26:31. > :26:37.goal back. And another one. Yes! And Leeds are really back in now
:26:37. > :26:41.with a chance. 3-2. There would be no further goals. Colchester held
:26:42. > :26:48.on to pull off one of the greatest dry and killings in the history of
:26:48. > :26:52.the FA Cup. The only player that didn't play was Billy Bremner. I
:26:52. > :26:56.did a quiz show in London a couple of years ago and they said, Billy
:26:56. > :27:05.Bremner used to hold that over us. There was a bit of bother in the
:27:05. > :27:15.dressing room, and he would say, hey, lads, who didn't play at
:27:15. > :27:17.
:27:17. > :27:21.Surrey, let me wipe a little bit of tears away. 16,000 in the crowd.
:27:21. > :27:25.Creative accounting. They put benches around the pitch to make
:27:25. > :27:30.the ground in clothes to make Leeds as uncomfortable as possible. It is
:27:30. > :27:37.the greatest FA Cup upset. mentioned Stevenage. What a
:27:37. > :27:41.performance yesterday. Great result. The Stevenage fans to go to White
:27:41. > :27:46.Hart Lane as well. If there was going to be an upset, it would have
:27:46. > :27:50.been on the day, really. Have they got a chance? You get one chance,
:27:50. > :27:54.but it is another one in the coffers so they can progress.
:27:54. > :28:00.quick word about next week's programme. We will be discussing
:28:00. > :28:06.this stuff. Artificial surfaces. This isn't your hair transplant.
:28:06. > :28:10.Any thoughts on it? Artificial pitch, artificial game. It is
:28:10. > :28:18.different, but they produce technology, and it is getting
:28:18. > :28:22.softer. It is not the softest, it is still artificial. I am looking
:28:22. > :28:27.forward to your forthright views. will not be sitting on the fence.